“Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.” — President Abraham Lincoln.
The conservative author who touched off the misquotation frenzy, J. Michael Waller, concedes that the words are his, not Lincoln’s. Waller says he never meant to put quote marks around them, and blames an editor [at the magazine Insight] for the mistake and the failure to correct it.
Someone should tell him that the quotes he used are fine. It’s the placement of President Abraham Lincoln after the statement and not his name that is the morally and professionally reprehensible thing about it all.
I think a tip of the hat might be appropriate here; with Glenn Greenwald and Roger Ailes and many others having covered this all day long it seems unlikely to me that reading through E&P was how ThinkProgress discovered the story.
Interesting. “A true leader makes his decisions in an open forum and not behind closed doors. Do not trust the man who makes decisions based on facts he cannot share, for the facts are likely to exist only in his mind.” — Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Peoples of Virginia, 1782
Or, how about this one:
“Surely, it is a far more egregious ethical breach to lead your fellow man into a war based on lies than it is to receive a hummer from a woman other than your wife.” — Thomas Paine
“I will not Quail before Lawyers seeking to Rendition me to truth, yet will I Duck the Hunting of Justices as I head for the Oil Bunker of my Uraguay.”
‘Elmer’ Chainee
Why isn’t Frank Gaffney being censured by his paper? Oh, wait, that’s right, it’s the Washington Times — they don’t reprimand their columnists. Their guys are allowed to make up quotations, facts; imply and infer whatever suits their message. Legitimate papers with legitimate editors would take action.
Blankley, Rev. Moon where are you?
“A President who acts like a child should be given to the terrorists in trade for peace and prosperity. His treatment at their hands should be videotaped and be the next big reality show on VH1″ – Ronald Reagen
“Those leaders -and their cronies- who mislead their people into a war of choice in a far away land, with no exit strategy, no gauge to measure success, while running the country’s economy into the ground, deserve to be impeached, tarred, feathered, and be put on display in a museum -next to the dinosaur with the smallest brain.”
–Abraham Lincoln
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the E&P article would be a good one to forward on to your local newspaper…
i found this while there, and sent it along also:
Radio Station Cries ‘Enough’ — Won’t Quote From Certain News Stories Relying on Unnamed Officials
By Greg Mitchell
Published: February 13, 2007 10:55 PM ET
NEW YORK After the latest widely-publicized stories in national newspapers about weapons from Iran allegedly killing Americans in Iraq — based completely on unnamed sources — at least one smaller news outlet has had enough of it.
I always liked this Lincoln quotation. I think it sums up ‘loyalty’ perfectly:
“Stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong. ”
I like to think that there are still Republicans who hold that sentiment. Too bad there aren’t a lot of them in their current leadership. Folks like Gaffney seem to think that having a war gives you an excuse to drop all but your most convenient values and run.
why, did I say something wrong?
February 14th, 2007 at 4:14 pmNeocons prefer fantasy land, with gum drop trees and bubble gum bees to REALITY.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:14 pmThe only thing to fear is Chimpy, the monkey-boy, himself.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm“Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.” — President Abraham Lincoln.
The conservative author who touched off the misquotation frenzy, J. Michael Waller, concedes that the words are his, not Lincoln’s. Waller says he never meant to put quote marks around them, and blames an editor [at the magazine Insight] for the mistake and the failure to correct it.
Someone should tell him that the quotes he used are fine. It’s the placement of President Abraham Lincoln after the statement and not his name that is the morally and professionally reprehensible thing about it all.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm“…one of our most admired presidents…”?!?
February 14th, 2007 at 4:17 pmWhat the hell is he smoking?
Why should Gaffney apologize? He knows dead persons cannot sue anybody….
February 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pmOh wait….reputation…..repudiation…? He does’nt care.
I think a tip of the hat might be appropriate here; with Glenn Greenwald and Roger Ailes and many others having covered this all day long it seems unlikely to me that reading through E&P was how ThinkProgress discovered the story.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pmInteresting. “A true leader makes his decisions in an open forum and not behind closed doors. Do not trust the man who makes decisions based on facts he cannot share, for the facts are likely to exist only in his mind.” — Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Peoples of Virginia, 1782
Or, how about this one:
“Surely, it is a far more egregious ethical breach to lead your fellow man into a war based on lies than it is to receive a hummer from a woman other than your wife.” — Thomas Paine
… hey, this is easy!
February 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pmAnother vast right wing conspiracy…this time, and for some time, they have been dying to hype up Bush as comparable to Lincoln…but this too will fail.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm#9
I just googled and found this one.
“I only hate one person on this Earth and that’s Gorge W. Bush.”
February 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm– Jesus Christ
#11. Good one. I hadn’t seen that before. Maybe time to print some t-shirts.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:31 pm#9- Or, this one:
What a F*ing panty waste these clumsy bastards are.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:31 pmMahatma Gandi
“Fourplay and seven pages ago, I served cocktails in the closets of Congress..”
February 14th, 2007 at 4:43 pmMark Fooly
The Lincoln quotes are about as well sourced as the NeoCon WMD and Al Queda evidence that lead the country into this quagmire.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pmWhat the F* are YOU looking at, F*er? F* you, you F*ing F*!
February 14th, 2007 at 4:48 pmDick Cheney
#15, and the Iranian supplies!
February 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pm“Fourplay and seven pages ago, I served cocktails in the closets of Congress..†— Mark Fooly
Comment by Raven
Hilarious =D
February 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pm“I will not Quail before Lawyers seeking to Rendition me to truth, yet will I Duck the Hunting of Justices as I head for the Oil Bunker of my Uraguay.”
February 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pm‘Elmer’ Chainee
Why isn’t Frank Gaffney being censured by his paper? Oh, wait, that’s right, it’s the Washington Times — they don’t reprimand their columnists. Their guys are allowed to make up quotations, facts; imply and infer whatever suits their message. Legitimate papers with legitimate editors would take action.
February 14th, 2007 at 5:15 pmBlankley, Rev. Moon where are you?
The neo-cons have nothing to stand on except lies and fabrications.
Is any one surprised they lied yet again?
Anyone at all???
February 14th, 2007 at 5:27 pm“A President who acts like a child should be given to the terrorists in trade for peace and prosperity. His treatment at their hands should be videotaped and be the next big reality show on VH1″ – Ronald Reagen
February 14th, 2007 at 5:35 pm“George Bush is a douchebag.”
– Benjamin Franklin
February 14th, 2007 at 5:53 pmyay! NewSpeak!
February 14th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThanks, Mr. Orwell!
Well, the Washington Times and Insight Magazine rear their ugly head again.
Now we know what sources we cannot trust -if there was any doubt left.
February 14th, 2007 at 6:32 pmMoonie Times
Insight Magazine
**yawn**
February 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pm“Those leaders -and their cronies- who mislead their people into a war of choice in a far away land, with no exit strategy, no gauge to measure success, while running the country’s economy into the ground, deserve to be impeached, tarred, feathered, and be put on display in a museum -next to the dinosaur with the smallest brain.”
February 14th, 2007 at 7:52 pm–Abraham Lincoln
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the E&P article would be a good one to forward on to your local newspaper…
i found this while there, and sent it along also:
Radio Station Cries ‘Enough’ — Won’t Quote From Certain News Stories Relying on Unnamed Officials
By Greg Mitchell
Published: February 13, 2007 10:55 PM ET
NEW YORK After the latest widely-publicized stories in national newspapers about weapons from Iran allegedly killing Americans in Iraq — based completely on unnamed sources — at least one smaller news outlet has had enough of it.
The news director of the public radio station in Santa Fe, New Mexico, has directed his staff to “ignore national stories quoting unnamed sources.” He also called on other news outlets to join this policy.
February 14th, 2007 at 8:29 pm[...]
http://editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003545357
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I always liked this Lincoln quotation. I think it sums up ‘loyalty’ perfectly:
“Stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong. ”
I like to think that there are still Republicans who hold that sentiment. Too bad there aren’t a lot of them in their current leadership. Folks like Gaffney seem to think that having a war gives you an excuse to drop all but your most convenient values and run.
February 15th, 2007 at 4:31 amLincoln had lots of good stuff. I like this one showing Lincoln being something other than profound:
People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
I think Lincoln also said
“Let the thing be pressed.”
which, in my opinion, actually sounds more interesting if you don’t know the context.
February 15th, 2007 at 5:39 am“Reality has a well-known liberal bias.â€
February 15th, 2007 at 9:54 amWhen I provided Brooks Jackson at Factcheck.org my research and he expanded and published our findings here:
http://factcheck.org/article415.html
… I had thought this fiction was put to bed, once and for all. I underestimated the complete ignorance of some journalists.
If interested, I made a youtube video a few weeks before last years’ elections.
Cliff Hancuff
February 15th, 2007 at 7:39 pmReston, Virginia
Sorry, I forgot the link to youtube:
Cliff Hancuff
February 15th, 2007 at 7:43 pmReston, Virginia
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d5jcyHokFyE
February 15th, 2007 at 7:44 pm