Comments on: CNN: White House Now Blames Briefer For Going Too Far On Iran Intel http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:51:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Lieberman: Criticism Of Administration’s Iran Intelligence Is ‘Unwarranted’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1933566 Think Progress » Lieberman: Criticism Of Administration’s Iran Intelligence Is ‘Unwarranted’ Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:12:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1933566 [...] of the Iranian government were responsible for weapons transfers to Iraqi insurgents, but later conceded that the intelligence went “a little too far.” Prodded by bloggers, the media has begun [...] [...] of the Iranian government were responsible for weapons transfers to Iraqi insurgents, but later conceded that the intelligence went “a little too far.” Prodded by bloggers, the media has begun [...]

]]> By: David http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1803600 David Mon, 19 Feb 2007 04:06:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1803600 I'm not sure when the Republicans succeeded in co-opting NASCAR, but cheatin' when racin' is totally unrelated to ubiquitous compulsive Republican dissembling. NASCAR is just the multi-billion dollar child of express delivery of moonshine by good ole boys who were probably, if anything, fast driving FDR Democrats. They damned sure weren't plutocrat-enabling, Falwell-endorsing Southern Republicans. I guess the Republican aspect of what Michael Waltrip did is that it was slimey high-tech, high concept cheating. Bill France was a George Wallace anti-government Democrat. Have no idea what role racism did or did not play for Bill France, or what the France family is now. Darrell Waltrip's adulation of George Bush (cf. his Lincoln Group) as the "man of God" president is a sad aspect of the life of a very personable guy and a hell of a race driver/commentator. I’m not sure when the Republicans succeeded in co-opting NASCAR, but cheatin’ when racin’ is totally unrelated to ubiquitous compulsive Republican dissembling. NASCAR is just the multi-billion dollar child of express delivery of moonshine by good ole boys who were probably, if anything, fast driving FDR Democrats. They damned sure weren’t plutocrat-enabling, Falwell-endorsing Southern Republicans. I guess the Republican aspect of what Michael Waltrip did is that it was slimey high-tech, high concept cheating.

Bill France was a George Wallace anti-government Democrat. Have no idea what role racism did or did not play for Bill France, or what the France family is now. Darrell Waltrip’s adulation of George Bush (cf. his Lincoln Group) as the “man of God” president is a sad aspect of the life of a very personable guy and a hell of a race driver/commentator.

]]> By: nemo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1767480 nemo Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:13:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1767480 "But, as Henry said, “that begs the question why..." If I ask about apples and you answer about oranges, you have begged the question. People who are trying to appear to be erudite misuse this phrase in this way. He means "raises the question." “But, as Henry said, “that begs the question why…” If I ask about apples and you answer about oranges, you have begged the question. People who are trying to appear to be erudite misuse this phrase in this way. He means “raises the question.”

]]> By: JPV http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1760819 JPV Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:22:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1760819 <em>It’s “taken so long to clarify them” because, like Iraq, they’re also based on bullcrap and lies. Remember and use Dubya’s own words: Fool me once, shame on you - Fool me twice, shame on me! Comment by veritas </em> Actually what he said was ... <blockquote>"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."</blockquote> It’s “taken so long to clarify them” because, like Iraq, they’re also based on bullcrap and lies. Remember and use Dubya’s own words:
Fool me once, shame on you – Fool me twice, shame on me!

Comment by veritas

Actually what he said was …

“Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”

]]> By: JPV http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1760802 JPV Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:20:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1760802 <em>Just goes to show you that Corporate-Owned CNN is part of the fascist regime…be not fooled by the bipartisan sound of some of their commentary. It’s TOTAL propaganda just like Faux News. Besides, receiving “day late news” is not my cup of tea so they’ve become eclipsed by the internet and are being rendered as totally “irrelevant” at this point. Comment by veritas</em> Amen to that! Just goes to show you that Corporate-Owned CNN is part of the fascist regime…be not fooled by the bipartisan sound of some of their commentary. It’s TOTAL propaganda just like Faux News. Besides, receiving “day late news” is not my cup of tea so they’ve become eclipsed by the internet and are being rendered as totally “irrelevant” at this point.

Comment by veritas

Amen to that!

]]> By: JPV http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1760793 JPV Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:18:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1760793 Since their propaganda efforts seem to be (thankfully) failing, I can only assume that, since certain interests are hell bent on a war with Iran, we can most likely expect a "false flag" attack on American troops/interests in the near future. Since their propaganda efforts seem to be (thankfully) failing, I can only assume that, since certain interests are hell bent on a war with Iran, we can most likely expect a “false flag” attack on American troops/interests in the near future.

]]> By: veritas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1757181 veritas Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:09:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1757181 Just goes to show you that Corporate-Owned CNN is part of the fascist regime...be not fooled by the bipartisan sound of some of their commentary. It's TOTAL propaganda just like Faux News. Besides, receiving "day late news" is not my cup of tea so they've become eclipsed by the internet and are being rendered as totally "irrelevant" at this point. Just goes to show you that Corporate-Owned CNN is part of the fascist regime…be not fooled by the bipartisan sound of some of their commentary. It’s TOTAL propaganda just like Faux News. Besides, receiving “day late news” is not my cup of tea so they’ve become eclipsed by the internet and are being rendered as totally “irrelevant” at this point.

]]> By: veritas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1757177 veritas Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:07:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1757177 It's "taken so long to clarify them" because, like Iraq, they're also based on bullcrap and lies. Remember and use Dubya's own words: Fool me once, shame on you - Fool me twice, shame on me! The sad lesson in the "cry wolf" syndrome is that this guy's lost all credibility so when something important needs to be addressed and listened to, the people will shun him and it. Sad that he's brought the dialogue down to this gutteral level in this country. It’s “taken so long to clarify them” because, like Iraq, they’re also based on bullcrap and lies. Remember and use Dubya’s own words:
Fool me once, shame on you – Fool me twice, shame on me!

The sad lesson in the “cry wolf” syndrome is that this guy’s lost all credibility so when something important needs to be addressed and listened to, the people will shun him and it. Sad that he’s brought the dialogue down to this gutteral level in this country.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1756341 big papa Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:26:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1756341 Comment by TJM #34 <strong>...Could you PLEEEAASE send this thread... ...and your comment to... ...the inbred fools at The Weekly Standard, Washington Times, or Red State.org...</strong> Comment by TJM #34

…Could you PLEEEAASE send this thread…

…and your comment to…

…the inbred fools at The Weekly Standard, Washington Times, or Red State.org…

]]> By: Liberal in New Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1756323 Liberal in New Mexico Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:24:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1756323 Were there any drawings and pencil sketches to suport these very serious claims? I'm serious! -heh- Were there any drawings and pencil sketches to suport these very serious claims? I’m serious! -heh-

]]> By: DRxJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755812 DRxJ Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:29:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755812 Just curious, where's Roger_Roger (debate Dodger) to refute this? I recall yesterday he was gung ho for war with Iran. Ohhhhh Roger....where areth ye??? Just curious, where’s Roger_Roger (debate Dodger) to refute this?
I recall yesterday he was gung ho for war with Iran.
Ohhhhh Roger….where areth ye???

]]> By: The Fool http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755761 The Fool Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:24:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755761 Bullshit - they did it intentionally. This is a great example of what the New York Times called "The Teeter Rule" after a debate in which W's father lied about his opponent. Teeter, Bush senior's campaign manager, was asked about it after the debate and said something to the effect of "who cares? Millions saw the debate on tv but only thousands will read the correction in the paper the next day". W's people are simply practicing the same tactics he learned from his dad. They got lots of great coverage for their sensationalistic lies but there will be far less coverage of the walk back. Bullshit – they did it intentionally. This is a great example of what the New York Times called “The Teeter Rule” after a debate in which W’s father lied about his opponent. Teeter, Bush senior’s campaign manager, was asked about it after the debate and said something to the effect of “who cares? Millions saw the debate on tv but only thousands will read the correction in the paper the next day”.

W’s people are simply practicing the same tactics he learned from his dad. They got lots of great coverage for their sensationalistic lies but there will be far less coverage of the walk back.

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755679 Raymond Funamoto Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:14:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755679 Now is that A BRIDGE TOO FAR or "A Briefer Too Far"? Or has CHIMPya and the Barrel of Monkey-boys at the white house MISTAKEN(on purpose, of course)Iraq and Iran the SAME WAY they mistook Iraq and Afghanistan for the location of the TRUE ENEMIES OF AMERICA? Hmmmmmm? Now is that A BRIDGE TOO FAR or “A Briefer Too Far”? Or has CHIMPya and the Barrel of Monkey-boys at the white house MISTAKEN(on purpose, of course)Iraq and Iran the SAME WAY they mistook Iraq and Afghanistan for the location of the TRUE ENEMIES OF AMERICA? Hmmmmmm?

]]> By: stonehinge http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755671 stonehinge Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:13:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755671 Continuing with the debunking, And especially for those like me who didn't get to see our mewling Preznit yesterday, this piece on AlterNet is great -- http://www.alternet.org/story/48083/ Let's get this piece in the emails, ok??? Continuing with the debunking,

And especially for those like me who didn’t get to see our mewling Preznit yesterday, this piece on AlterNet is great –

http://www.alternet.org/story/48083/

Let’s get this piece in the emails, ok???

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755379 RUCerious Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:36:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755379 #36 Has a job? Shit, he's a candidate for immediate promotion! #36 Has a job? Shit, he’s a candidate for immediate promotion!

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755355 WaltTheMan Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:34:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755355 #35 - Raven, Funny he still has a job. #35 – Raven,
Funny he still has a job.

]]> By: Raven http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755325 Raven Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:30:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755325 Funny as well that the anonymous intelligence staffer is still... anonymous... Funny as well that the anonymous intelligence staffer is still… anonymous…

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755309 ForTruth Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:28:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755309 <em>These people just can’t help themselves. They can’t even drive cars around in a circle without screwing other people. Comment by Spudge_Boy</em> It's the product of low self esteem, and inibility to accept defeat. These people just can’t help themselves. They can’t even drive cars around in a circle without screwing other people.

Comment by Spudge_Boy

It’s the product of low self esteem, and inibility to accept defeat.

]]> By: Rosencrantz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755283 Rosencrantz Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:25:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755283 This is funny. The White House is able to censor various media report, environmental reports, oversight reports, 9/11 reports, FOI requests, white house visitor logs and all kinds of investigations...but one single staffer somehow managed to alter this report once the public took two seconds to realize it was a lie. Funny how that works. GOod thing we have a vigilant media that will connect the huge dots to manipulated iraq intelligence right? Oh...wait... This is funny. The White House is able to censor various media report, environmental reports, oversight reports, 9/11 reports, FOI requests, white house visitor logs and all kinds of investigations…but one single staffer somehow managed to alter this report once the public took two seconds to realize it was a lie.

Funny how that works. GOod thing we have a vigilant media that will connect the huge dots to manipulated iraq intelligence right? Oh…wait…

]]> By: TJM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/comment-page-1/#comment-1755282 TJM Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:25:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/15/blaming-the-briefer/#comment-1755282 Isn't it interesting that a country widely reported to have extensive nuclear, biological and chemical expertise has to import from Iran the technology to make a relatively simple explosive charge. See my thumb............?????? Isn’t it interesting that a country widely reported to have extensive nuclear, biological and chemical expertise has to import from Iran the technology to make a relatively simple explosive charge.
See my thumb…………??????

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