Why Did Rove Receive A Copy Of A Secret Iranian Proposal For Negotiations In 2003?
Why Did Rove Receive A Copy Of A Secret Iranian Proposal For Negotiations In 2003?
Inter Press Service reports that, in early May 2003, Karl Rove received a copy of a secret Iranian proposal for negotiations with the United States from former Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) — who is now serving 30 months in prison for his role in a corruption scandal.
Former Ney aide, Trita Parsi — who now works at the National Iranian-American Council — said that Ney was chosen by the Swiss Ambassador in Tehran Tim Guldimann to carry the Iranian proposal to the White House because he believed Ney to be the only Farsi-speaking member of Congress and particularly interested in Iran. According to IPS:
Parsi revealed that the document was delivered specifically to Rove, in an exclusive interview with IPS. Within two hours of the delivery of the document, according to Parsi, Ney received a phone call from Rove confirming his receipt of the document. Parsi said the proposal was delivered to Rove the same week that the State Department received it by fax, which was on or about May 4, 2003, according to the cover letter accompanying it.
Contrary to the article’s report, Rove was not deputy chief of staff in May 2003. He was serving at the time as the senior political adviser in the White House, a position with no responsibility on foreign policy. The White House press office has not responded to a request for comment on why Rove received a copy of the Iranian proposal.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice — who served as National Security Adviser in 2003 — and Eliot Abrams — the deputy National Security Adviser — have claimed that they do not remember receiving the Iranian proposal. Newsweek recently revealed the contents of the proposal, which were communicated through a Swiss intermediary in May 2003.
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Because Rove is a secrecy vampire. He hangs upside down in a closet somewhere in the White House feasting of classified documents, washing them down with the blood of kittens.
February 16th, 2007 at 4:54 pmRove is showing us the exact size of his genitals…
February 16th, 2007 at 4:54 pmUndoubtely in response to the question “Why neocons are so corrupt?”
The tie sucks, and that is the size if GWB’s weiner.
Rove wanted the info to help him manipulate the public.
February 16th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI disagree Hippy, I think he uses the blood of puppies, not kittens.
February 16th, 2007 at 4:57 pmBecause Rove is special, and does not have a job description, he does what needs to be done. And Ney is involved, imagine that one.
Rove’s titles are just that, a title. He slimes his way around wherever he wants to.
February 16th, 2007 at 4:58 pmdeny, deny, deny…
Come on national press corps….get on this story!
February 16th, 2007 at 4:58 pmIt’s creepy how much power Rove has. He really is “The Architect.”
February 16th, 2007 at 4:58 pmNot even Chimpy knows what Rove is up to. He just “makes things work”.
February 16th, 2007 at 4:59 pmCaption contest:
Russert, dude, I’m tellin’ ya, this is 10 inches.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:01 pmKrazny,
No, it is kittens.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:01 pmhttp://www.xoverboard.com/deadkittensurvey/
why isn’t he in jail?? When the history writers get their hands on the crap these idiots have done….
February 16th, 2007 at 5:01 pmKarl wanted to get his greasy mitts on it because it might have some politically useful information in it. Nobody has politicized foreign policy like this administration has. Nothing is out of bounds for an amoral person like Rove.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:02 pmArchitect literally means Master Builder.
I’d say Rove is more of a Masterbater…
February 16th, 2007 at 5:02 pmNever call him Karl Rove, just call him Turd Blossom > lol.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:03 pmThat picture of Rove depicts him describing the length of Chimpy’s hardon. Rove knows from direct experience.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:06 pmIran, our “enemy” offers to help. Saudi Arabia, our “ally” arms and funds the Sunni insurgency.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pmThis is just one action/inaction that shows how the administration DOES NOT work in the best interests of the county. It’s always in the best interest of Karl Rove.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:09 pmTurd Blossom is showing how small Bush’s brain is in reality, which is about 2 inches in diameter. That is also the length of Dubya’s wanger.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pmHey, Chris. #10 -
At least that Pollack guy got Rusty Shackleford (Jawa Report) to admit that he doesn’t support Bush’s presidency.
http://www.xoverboard.com/ deadkittensurvey/ shackleford.html
Nice.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pmSecretary of State Condoleezza Rice — who served as National Security Adviser in 2003 — and Eliot Abrams…..claimed that they do not remember receiving the Iranian proposal
Such bad memories in this administration. I wonder if these people remembered to wipe their ass after they went to the bathroom today.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:15 pmWasn’t Collin Powell Secretary of State, at that time? Why would/should Karl Rove be privy to and have access to these documents? Possibly sounds a little like breach of national security interest, to me. At the very least, it is highly improper. Do I smell another investigation in the air, or is that another one of Chimpy’s rancid, methane farts?
February 16th, 2007 at 5:17 pmWhy Did Rove Request A Copy Of A Secret Iranian Proposal For Negotiations In 2003?
Because he is a stand up guy and it was the right thing to do. Period.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:17 pmFrom Ron Suskind’s “Why Are These Men Laughing?” in the January 2003 Esquire:
“There is no precedent in any modern White House for what is going on in this one: a complete lack of a policy apparatus,” DiIulio tells Esquire. “What you’ve got is everything—and I mean everything—being run by the political arm. It’s the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis.”
February 16th, 2007 at 5:17 pmWhat’s a national press corp?
February 16th, 2007 at 5:21 pmgood for you, bad for me
What is Rove’s position in the US Government? Why should a man whose only mandate is to keep Bush elected allowed access to such sensitive information? What the hell has it got to do with him?
February 16th, 2007 at 5:22 pmBecause he is a stand up guy and it was the right thing to do. Period.
Comment by good for you, bad for me.
Rove got fired from by HW Bush for leaking to the press.
(stand up - heh)
Rove is good for political campaigns, NOT foreign policy.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:23 pmWe should ask Collin Powell why Turd Blossom (I like that, Jay) had his dirty mitts on his documents and got them all sweaty and stuff.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:23 pm#22 good for you, bad for me
Why Did Rove Request A Copy Of A Secret Iranian Proposal For Negotiations In 2003?
Because he is a stand up guy and it was the right thing to do. Period.
Giggle-giggle…just couldn’t resist throwing another turd at the crowd, eh? No more bananas for you, naughty monkey.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:24 pmPost 27 Liberal > Bush named Rove his Turd Blossom. It fits him well, but unknown why Dubya calls him that name. Bush named Jeff Gannon the escort hooker “Bulldog,” so I think Bush is bisexual.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:32 pmDidn’t Cheney also get a copy of this and summarily dismiss it?
February 16th, 2007 at 5:33 pm29- Seriously? Are you sure the Bulldog doesn’t sniff the Turd Blossom? -heh- Geeze! lol
February 16th, 2007 at 5:41 pmRove is the “architect” of the failed Bush presidency. What a special man he is.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:45 pmPost 31 > Yes seriously. Bush gave them those names, but heck you could be onto something with one named Bulldog and the other a glorified turd.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:48 pmI believe 2 or 3 well placed full out nuclear bombs (the big fat fu*kers), would do the job nicely and “level the playing field” betrween muslims and Christians. Take out say, 30 million people per bomb initaially and outright. With another 20-30 million dying off within 6 months of exposure and radiation.
That will make those heathens think twice about EVER fu*king with us again. Plus we could virtually name our price for the worlds oil supplies. If and when I ever get to be President, believe you me, this will be my FIRST priority.
The “thinning of the herd” of the middle eastern muslims. I will hold them down and let Israel join the fight and bitchslap them while they are down and cant get up. Once they are down and cant get up, this is where I will keep them. With no hope. No chance, no glimmer of a better life.
Its what they deserve. They (muslims) are just too hard headed to see it as the fact that it is. Quite simply, Christians and Jews are the premier “accepted” religions in the world, and we will work together forever if we have to, to insure this is ALWAYS the way it remains.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:52 pmSomebody told me once that in Texas, cow-dung is sometimes referred to as turd-blossoms, so perhaps Rove was named for cow-dung?!
February 16th, 2007 at 5:53 pmWhen I hear “Turd Blossom” it sounds like the act of a turd opening up the sphincter. I hear it as a verb.
February 16th, 2007 at 5:59 pmSo I guess that “the architect” stole the White House’s only copy of the proposal? That way Condi wouldn’t see it?
February 16th, 2007 at 6:03 pmWell ForTruth then that would mean that Bush likes to look at Rove’s naked butt. He named him, so if it means that then Bush is a freak.
February 16th, 2007 at 6:04 pmgood for you, bad for me
Are you my mate Pengelly on a wind up? The whole “Christians and Jews are the premier “accepted” religion in the world, and we will work together forever” line has your sense of lunacy all over it. Naturally, no one can be daft enough to write something like that and mean it.
Ok, let’s say you aren’t Pengelly. Please justify that statement. I won’t bore you with lots of reasons for the statement being nuts because we don’t have the time. Let’s just say, for example, that the Catholic Church signed a concordat with Nazi Germany and didn’t exactly try to stop the slaughter of Jews. That happened in my grandparent’s lifetime. Doesn’t really suggest a permanent alliance does it? We’ll, just for fun, ignore that the foundations of the crematoriums at Auschwitz were built on centuries of Christian bigotry.
At the moment the alliance is mutually beneficial. Don’t for a second believe it will be permanent.
February 16th, 2007 at 6:09 pmMiss Piggy Rove POLITICIZES everything he can get his sticky little mitts on–that includes the turds that plop from his anus–so wjy should such classified data be different in his insidious, conniving pea-brain? I would ask him to “Politicize THIS, Rove!” As a shiv is plunged into his enormous, deformed FAT HEAD!!!!!
February 16th, 2007 at 6:09 pmChimpy, the exhibitionist, likes to have Blossom dance naked with silk scarves in the oval office while he munches on his pretzels, farts and watches in wide-eyed amazement. Yup- that’s the President, all right.
February 16th, 2007 at 6:11 pm#41 - Aaarrrgghhhh!!! My eyes! It burns, it burns…..
February 16th, 2007 at 6:26 pmTell you the truth, my vision is chimpy dancing naked, while Cheney, and Rove sit at the oval office desk drinking whiskey and yelling “dance rummy dance”.
February 16th, 2007 at 6:36 pmKrazny –
You’re not helping, Rooster Boy.
February 16th, 2007 at 6:39 pmsorry zooey
I’m just saying…
February 16th, 2007 at 6:45 pmWhat me worry? Condoliza don’t know nuttin?
February 16th, 2007 at 6:56 pm#11 - They’ll be asking us why the hell we put up with it for eight freakin years!
February 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmMistress Z and Kraz ~
February 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pmI can’t disclose my visualization without winding up in Gitmo.
It’s amazing that we have unelected persons actually running the government — and the vice president is actually the president. The president is a dummy (in more ways than one) the congress is impotent and the department heads, cabinet heads, et al., are really lobbyists between jobs.
February 16th, 2007 at 7:03 pmComment by RUCerious — February 16, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
Probably best, or Zooey will be dry heaving all night.
February 16th, 2007 at 7:06 pmMistress Z and Kraz ~
I can’t disclose my visualization without winding up in Gitmo.
Comment by RUCerious
Where do you think I’m writing this from? Yep, sitting on a rocky beach in Gitmo, in my usual stress position, and a tall cool glass of my own urine — with a little umbrella, of course…
February 16th, 2007 at 7:07 pm#51- Hey, look over to your left… see me? Hey -how’cha’doin? Where’d you get the cute little umbrella?
February 16th, 2007 at 7:25 pmSo, newsweek gets the story out 4 years after its occurence? Now, that’s going after a story. Great journalism. MSM should be proud of this.
February 16th, 2007 at 7:45 pmBy the Swiss Ambassador? Would that be Pamela Willeford? Cheney’s girlfriend? She was there for the Whittington shooting…the real reason on the media blackout after the shooting. They had to ‘disappear’ her first.
February 16th, 2007 at 8:02 pmRove, Rice, and Abrams need to be investigated for hiding this request for diplomacy from the american people. For starters, Rice doesn’t have enough short-term memory to recall something of this importance from 2003? If that’s the case, she clearly needs to be fired and is totally incompetent.
As for Rove, he’s got his finger in the cookie jar of all that’s wrong with this administration. Little pudgy Doughboy will be the next to fall after being investigated and indicted just like his buddy, Scooter. You KNOW everything corrupt that’s gone on has Karl’s fingerprints all over it.
February 16th, 2007 at 8:07 pmCondi’s the “nuttin’ honey” chick of the WH! She was caught on tape out buying shoes while people died in New Orleans - what a swine!
February 16th, 2007 at 8:08 pm#54 Yes, indeed, everyone remembers Pamela Willeford and is just waiting to bring it all back up again against Cheney. She was his little “Swiss Miss” whom he was trysting with during his shooting incident where he shot his friend in the face. How can we allow something heinous (the shooting) and the tryst (Pam Willeford) to go unnoticed?? American hasn’t and is simply waiting for “cheney’s turn” when the Libby investigation moves on to him and his complicity in the treasonous outing of a CIA covert operative. Cheney’s crimes are definitely not going unnoticed.
February 16th, 2007 at 8:11 pmIf this isn’t deliberate malfeasance on the part of the administration, isn’t this proof of gross incompetence — either case being grounds for removal from office? Can this be pursued?
February 16th, 2007 at 8:55 pm#52 - Hey, look over to your left… see me? Hey -how’cha’doin? Where’d you get the cute little umbrella?
Comment by Liberal in New Mexico
Hey, your stress position looks easier than my stress position! You don’t want to know how I got the little umbrella….
February 16th, 2007 at 9:02 pmOh I get so happy inside when this type of stuff comes out! These days it ALWAYS leads to even more fun and games. D’ya think the stress might affect a few cardiac muscles in the W.H?
February 16th, 2007 at 9:10 pmMaybe Pickles will snap and we’ll have an excellent murder-suicide!
Karl Rove is definitely one of the bastiches who should be tried and hung…
…he is in large part responsible for much of this mess America is in…
…The American people had better start speaking louder on bringing these TREASONOUS Bushites (and their masters) to justice…
…otherwise they’re going to quietly disappear…
…that’s already happening in Rove and rumsfeld’s cases…
February 16th, 2007 at 11:31 pmCan this be pursued?
Comment by Marie #58
Marie,
I would venture to guess that the Democrats have so much impeachable material…
…they’re having a problem trying to put it all together in a comprehensive package…
…for the intellectually challenged (dead end 30%ers)…
…these 30%ers are crucial in bringing pressure to bear on their “pocket” Repulsivescum Representatives and Senators…
…”pocket” refers to the pockets of conned’self-servative inbreds around the country who protect the Duncan Hunters, John McCains, Virgil Goodes etc…
…without whom the Democrats cannot hope to muster the super majority necessary to impeach…
February 16th, 2007 at 11:37 pmHOW CAN YOU IMPEACH BUSH?
February 17th, 2007 at 6:11 amGeorge Tenet at CIA took the fall for Bush by taking responsibility for the now infamous so-called intelligence failure. So Bush cannot be accused of lying to the American nation because he can point the finger at Tenet and claim he (Bush) was only acting in defense of the nation under the best available information he had at the time. And that defense will stick in the court of public opinion and any Congressional impeachment proceedings. Furthermore, there simply aren’t the numbers to impeach.
We’re stuck with Bush and Rove.
But also consider this…if Rove is the head of Bush political operations, including the election strategies, and he, Rove, allegedly failed last midterm election, evidence the Democratic takeover, then why haven’t we heard about his fall from grace at all? Probably because having the Democrats take only symbolic control of Congress was probably planned as part of the 08 strategy.
WE ARE BEING HAD AS A NATION.
The architect of US generated false flag terror (like the fake terror scare in London) is Karl Rove.
Arrest him. Put him under oath. Ask him about his foreknowledge of 9/11 and every terror scare since then.
February 17th, 2007 at 10:20 amRove, a bloated, self-serving, infantile looking pile ‘o crap.
I recently heard him speak, and what a mousey, feeble soundling dweeb.
I don’t believe this man is possible of accomplishing anything outside of a crossword puzzle. Just because Bush likes to listen to KKKarl, doesn’t prove he’s powerful, it just illustrates how dumb the whole administration is.
February 17th, 2007 at 10:21 amCaption contest:
Russert, dude, I’m tellin’ ya, this is 10 inches.
Comment by Zooey — February 16, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
ah hahaha! excellent!
i have to bite my tongue at times…
February 17th, 2007 at 11:10 amjust last week, i was at the meat counter and wanted a hunk of chicken roast… told the meat man to slice it as big as the machine will go… he said, “well i can give you an inch and a half, maam.”… i knew that the slicer only goes to an inch, and that’s what i got…
i wanted to say something to the effect of “i bet you think you have a 6 incher too”…
but i bit my tongue…
…
Comment by Shirley Ugest #63
Shirley,
You make some very strong arguments regarding Tenet’s having taken the fall and the Dem takeover being a Repulsivescum strategy for ‘08…
…However, Constitutional breaches such as signing statements, domestic spying, war crimes committed under his watch, and suspension of habaeus corpus could prove fertile ground for impeachment…
…I still believe that there is a tangible nexus between Bush, Cheney/Halliburton and war profiteering that could be exploited…
…I also believe that Bush’s failure in disaster-ridden Louisiana, and the entire Gulf coast could add some fuel…
…in these instances we’re only one or two star witnesses (indictments) away…
…Your skepticism is indeed healthy though…
February 17th, 2007 at 2:02 pmI will never forget when Senator’s Chaffee, Kerry, Biden, Kennedy and Boxer were asking Bolton during the Bolton hearings about why the Bush administration had refused to hand over the NSA intercepts that they were demaniding. Many suspected that these intercepts may prove that Powell ’s conversations about the Iran situation and others at the Un were being wiretapped by the right wing radicals.
If this is true Rove would have known the Iranian offer was coming. These guys should be strung up for what we do know.
LYING ABOUT A BLOW JOB UNDER OATH = IMPEACHMENT
LYING ABOUT PRE-WAR INTELLIGENCE = A SLAP ON THE HANDS BY THE PENTAGON INSPECTOR GENERAL “INAPPROPRIATE”
AND WE WONDER WHY WE ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD1
Besides many around the world fearing the dismissiveness of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lpeople dying, injured, displaced ( how about millions)
How can we possibly wonder why people around the world hate and fear su?
February 17th, 2007 at 7:40 pmLook at the picture of Rove. I think the little twit has hair again! He doing hair plugs, that’s why we haven’t seen him in the media.
Looking at him, I can’t help thinking he most resembles an adult Dennis the Menace.
February 18th, 2007 at 12:53 amThe only way to stop Karl Rove is to have a playdate with him. To sit in the sandbox or play with blocks. He like’s to jump in the pit of plastic balls at Chuck E. Cheese’s, too.
He’s good for a drink or some acid, but bad for America.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:59 pmSecretary of State Condoleezza Rice — who served as National Security Adviser in 2003 — and Eliot Abrams — the deputy National Security Adviser — have claimed that they do not remember receiving the Iranian proposal.
February 18th, 2007 at 5:59 pm.
Rover intercepted the offer and prevented it from reaching the proper channels, that is Condi and Powell. Rove needed wars and more wars and they might have balked.
Either Condi is lying or she is incompetent. Tough call.
Few competent people doing their job could forget such a significant event. Still, I think she forgot. Forgot in the sense that since it was not possible to consider any talks with Iran the idea was just discarded by her, mentally.
It’s like “Condi, look at this. Some Iranians are proposing talks”
“Forgetaboutit”
February 18th, 2007 at 7:13 pmBecause Rove rides herd on Bush’s Iran/Contra government. Ney is part of a conduit to the Iran arms dealer network that still includes Adnan Koshyoggi and Manucher Ghorbanifar. Rove helped ensure that the Taliban destabilizing Iran’s Eastern border were knocked out (for a while). So Iran was willing to play ball while. When the US invaded Iraq, Iran saw its new opportunity. Another reason why the US hasn’t fully cleaned up the Taliban, which divides Iran’s focus onto both its borders with totally unstable countries full of US troops.
Rove is the guy in charge of balancing that whole setup against what Bush can get away with the public knowing. The “accountability moment” filter that is the only limit on Bush’s power.
February 18th, 2007 at 9:22 pmUnless Pelosi an Reid act now, before the ‘08 elections there won’t be any elections. The GOP is not going to give up power and they see that the white house is currently a loss. So: 1) replace as many US Attorneys as possible before “08 to block investigations and oversight; 2) Expand power by placing political appointees in all federal agencies to further bog down the congress and impede any investigations; 3) Bush has revised the 200 yr old Insurrection Act putting the state national guard completely under his command: 4) Have ready to put in place the 2000+ armed security force (Blackwater) which owes no allegiance to the constitution when a national emergency and martrial law is declared (Blackwater is owned by Haliburton-Cheney); 5)Google a search for FEMA camps already in place to hold dissenters, Muslims?, Congress?;6)
February 19th, 2007 at 1:11 amCreate the 9/11- nuke Americans and blame Iran- disaster to start the ball rolling. Most of our troops are in the region already; the fleet is in the Persian Gulf and poised to nuke; the mainstream media like Fox is already owned by the GOP and will report what they are told to report with the propaganda machine; Democrats in congress are labeled traitors and dismissed; National emergency and martial law declared; an emergency constitutional convention is held to replace congress in which our constitution will also be replaced by the right wing GOP agenda and ratified by the states. Rove and the GOP have been working on it since before 2001 (remember PNAC) so I’m sure they’ve worked the bugs out. All this depends on 2 things…attacking Iran…and doing it before the ‘08 elections. If they did 9/11 what makes you think they wouldn’t do this? I ask Pelosi and Reid this…Who’s gonna stop ‘em? Maybe the Dems need an Al-Sadr like security force themselves.
The person good for you bad for me #34 should be banned from commenting on this site and the comment deleted. It’s unfair and cruel to mock the insane to whoever is typing the keyboard for this person. Perhaps increasing the thorazine would decrease his hitler-esq rantings. An un educated, uninformed, delusional goober whose main function in life has been to figure out how much saliva to drool. Give him back his pet mouse and piece of felt and let him suck his thumb to sleep, but please don’t cater to his demands to comment on blogs. He gives new meaning to the word sub-human. Doesn’t even understand that Muslims, Christians and Jews all worship the God of Abraham. If You can’t f**k it. eat it, or ride it, then kill it eh? Beyond understanding is the trash who thinks himself a king.
February 19th, 2007 at 1:43 ambotts i agree. the busch clan is more likely than not to attempt suspending our constitution.
download the project. burn CDs and give ‘em out. We need to hear this in every cab, coffee shop, subway bus and bar in the country.
someone asks what that thing you’re playing is answer “MY RIGHTS!!!”the crank it up and smile.
classic passive resistance.
i started this with a few copies to freinds out of my laptop.
afew weeks ago.
there are a few thousand out there already.
please…
a few thousand’s a good start. we need tens of millions.
that won’t fit in a detention camp.
think about it. then get busy .
ed
February 19th, 2007 at 4:44 pmOOOPS!
thought this’d be in the header.
http://www.CBRproject-podcast.org
February 19th, 2007 at 4:56 pmCount Karl feeds on the blood of our men & woman in uniform and the kool-aid gulpers
February 19th, 2007 at 6:08 pmPost 35,
No it’s a flower that grows on the pile of cow dung. But you were close and the saying does indeed come from Texas. Just one of many reasons I need to move.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turd_Blossom
February 20th, 2007 at 5:36 pm[…] In an interview with Democracy Now, Trita Parsi — former congressional aide to Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) — disclosed more details about his recent revelation that an Iranian offer for negotiations with the Bush administration was delivered to senior political adviser Karl Rove in 2003. […]
February 26th, 2007 at 4:31 pm[…] In an interview with Democracy Now, Trita Parsi — former congressional aide to ex-Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) — disclosed more details about his recent revelation that an Iranian offer for negotiations with the Bush administration was delivered to senior political adviser Karl Rove in 2003. […]
February 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pm