Comments on: Young Will Not Retract Fabricated Lincoln Quote http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:03:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1833377 Exley Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:51:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1833377 #171....For the record, it has now been five days since Barfly initially made his unsubstantiated claim and five days since Dale asked for any evidence to back up claim regarding Congress. Similarly it has been several days since I showed Barfly lied when he made his claim that the entire U.N. saw only a redacted version of the Iraq weapons dossier (I also showed that Barfly lied (or simply mixed up his chronology) when he falsely implied that Iraq released its weapons dossier before Congress voted on the AUMF, when, in fact, Iraq did not release its dossier until two months <strong>after</strong> Iraq released the dossier. And Barfly continues to hide. #171….For the record, it has now been five days since Barfly initially made his unsubstantiated claim and five days since Dale asked for any evidence to back up claim regarding Congress.

Similarly it has been several days since I showed Barfly lied when he made his claim that the entire U.N. saw only a redacted version of the Iraq weapons dossier (I also showed that Barfly lied (or simply mixed up his chronology) when he falsely implied that Iraq released its weapons dossier before Congress voted on the AUMF, when, in fact, Iraq did not release its dossier until two months after Iraq released the dossier.

And Barfly continues to hide.

]]> By: One Utah » Blog Archive » GOP Congressman Smears Lincoln http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1829509 One Utah » Blog Archive » GOP Congressman Smears Lincoln Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:35:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1829509 [...] UPDATE: According to Think Progress, Congressman Young does not plan to take any action to correct the record or clarify his House [...] [...] UPDATE: According to Think Progress, Congressman Young does not plan to take any action to correct the record or clarify his House [...]

]]> By: Mike J. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1829386 Mike J. Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:17:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1829386 Wait a minute... Lauren's a "plant," right? A liberal pretending to be conservative, right? I mean, no self-respecting republican would actually post something meant to be taken seriously online in which "democrat" and "believes" are spelled incorrectly, right? Right? Wait a minute…

Lauren’s a “plant,” right? A liberal pretending to be conservative, right? I mean, no self-respecting republican would actually post something meant to be taken seriously online in which “democrat” and “believes” are spelled incorrectly, right?

Right?

]]> By: keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1816167 keith Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:50:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1816167 Want to know how much the base of today's Republican party respects Abraham Lincoln? Today is Presidents Day holiday in Alabama----but for presidents Washington and Thomas Jefferson (born April 13) NOT Lincoln. January 15 was MLK/Robert E. Lee Day and June 4th will be a holiday for Jefferson Davis' birthday. When I tell you the backbone of the Republican party hates Lincoln in 2007, I ain't kidding. Want to know how much the base of today’s Republican party respects Abraham Lincoln? Today is Presidents Day holiday in Alabama—-but for presidents Washington and Thomas Jefferson (born April 13) NOT Lincoln. January 15 was MLK/Robert E. Lee Day and June 4th will be a holiday for Jefferson Davis’ birthday. When I tell you the backbone of the Republican party hates Lincoln in 2007, I ain’t kidding.

]]> By: reginald http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1807267 reginald Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:25:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1807267 I called Don's office yesterday and left a message. I told him do not, repeat DO NOT retract his fake Lincoln quote! I most certainly want the all the US people to know full well what ignorant, lying, con artists all Republicans are. Stay the course, Don! Don't cut and run! I called Don’s office yesterday and left a message. I told him do not, repeat DO NOT retract his fake Lincoln quote! I most certainly want the all the US people to know full well what ignorant, lying, con artists all Republicans are. Stay the course, Don! Don’t cut and run!

]]> By: keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1798085 keith Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:47:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1798085 What's important is that when the US realized (remember, they bugged their phones) that the vote in the Security Council would be 3 for the US's invasion and 12 opposed---the US withdrew the proposal and invaded anyway---totally illegal under every law signed by the US, making them laws of the US. What’s important is that when the US realized (remember, they bugged their phones) that the vote in the Security Council would be 3 for the US’s invasion and 12 opposed—the US withdrew the proposal and invaded anyway—totally illegal under every law signed by the US, making them laws of the US.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1794351 Exley Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:41:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1794351 By the way, here is yet another falsehood from Barfly: <em>"When the Bush administration turned the document over to the UN, ten thousand pages of information had been redacted. "</em> That is, of course, demonstrably false. The five permament members of the United Nations Security Council (Note to Barfly: That's the U.S., Russia, France, China, and U.K.) received complete, non-redacted copies of the full dossier. The non-permanent council members received a redacted version of the Iraqi document on Tuesday from the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission and the International Atomic Energy Agency. This decision by the UN caused some controvery among some of the non-permanent members, especially Syria. For more information to see: <em>Syria to Boycott UN Meeting on Iraqi Arms Dossier</em> Reuters December 19, 2002 <em>UN row erupts over Iraq dossier</em> BBC 10 December, 2002, 11:19 GMT Okay, Barfly, now we have shown you lied when you said "the UN" received only a redacted version of the report. We have also seen that you confused (to put it mildly) the chronology of events, implying the dossier was released prior to Congress' approval of the AUMF, when, in fact, the dossier was released two month after the vote. Finally, since you have refused (in a somewhat cowardly way) to respond to Dale's request that you provide some evidence or citation to substantiate your allegation that Congress never saw the complete 12,000 page dossier, we can only assume you lied aout that as well. By the way, here is yet another falsehood from Barfly:

“When the Bush administration turned the document over to the UN, ten thousand pages of information had been redacted. “

That is, of course, demonstrably false. The five permament members of the United Nations Security Council (Note to Barfly: That’s the U.S., Russia, France, China, and U.K.) received complete, non-redacted copies of the full dossier.

The non-permanent council members received a redacted version of the Iraqi document on Tuesday from the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission and the International Atomic Energy Agency.

This decision by the UN caused some controvery among some of the non-permanent members, especially Syria.

For more information to see:

Syria to Boycott UN Meeting on Iraqi Arms Dossier
Reuters
December 19, 2002

UN row erupts over Iraq dossier
BBC
10 December, 2002, 11:19 GMT

Okay, Barfly, now we have shown you lied when you said “the UN” received only a redacted version of the report. We have also seen that you confused (to put it mildly) the chronology of events, implying the dossier was released prior to Congress’ approval of the AUMF, when, in fact, the dossier was released two month after the vote.

Finally, since you have refused (in a somewhat cowardly way) to respond to Dale’s request that you provide some evidence or citation to substantiate your allegation that Congress never saw the complete 12,000 page dossier, we can only assume you lied aout that as well.

]]> By: trumpy303 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1789000 trumpy303 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:08:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1789000 <blockquote>Don Young haas made a living by being stupid and saying stupid things. He’s the “bridge to nowhere guy” as well. <em>Comment by Redwing</em></blockquote> Him and Ted "Series of Tubes" Stevens

Don Young haas made a living by being stupid and saying stupid things. He’s the “bridge to nowhere guy” as well.
Comment by Redwing

Him and Ted “Series of Tubes” Stevens

]]> By: keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1788623 keith Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:38:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1788623 Neither Bush's government nor Blair's government denies the Downing Street Memo that says the policy of invasion is set (July 2002) and the evidence will be fixed later. Neither Bush’s government nor Blair’s government denies the Downing Street Memo that says the policy of invasion is set (July 2002) and the evidence will be fixed later.

]]> By: keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1788590 keith Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:34:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1788590 What's important is that Iraq's 12,000 page dossier was TRUE. Everything the Bush administration said about WMD or any other reason for the urgency of invasion was a known lie well before they said it. What’s important is that Iraq’s 12,000 page dossier was TRUE. Everything the Bush administration said about WMD or any other reason for the urgency of invasion was a known lie well before they said it.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1786702 JPark Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:17:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1786702 Exley, how about addressing the fact that Young is a liar? Exley, how about addressing the fact that Young is a liar?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1786575 JPark Sun, 18 Feb 2007 03:58:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1786575 Hehe, Exley, I LOVE it. Thanks for that ironic rant. I would almost think you had written that for yourself. Hehe, Exley, I LOVE it. Thanks for that ironic rant. I would almost think you had written that for yourself.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1785130 Exley Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:05:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1785130 Poor Barfly....Your ignorance and propensity to simply make things up has left you discredited and humiliated again. I can tell you are embarassed that I again caught you in an untruth. How embarassing for you to claim that Iraq released its 12,000 page dossier before Congress voted on the AUMF (That' means "Authority to Use Military Force," Barfly) when in fact Iraq released the dossier two months <strong>AFTER</strong> Congress voted to grant the president the authority to use force. By the way, Barfly, can't help but notice that you have failed to answer Dale's request that you back up your unsubstantiated allegation....Heh! I love how you run away when your assertions are disproved, refuse to provide any evidence, and then sneak back into the thread at 2:00 in the morning so that you don't have to face the music and the fact you were proven wrong....again. You are a very amusing little fella! Poor Barfly….Your ignorance and propensity to simply make things up has left you discredited and humiliated again.

I can tell you are embarassed that I again caught you in an untruth.
How embarassing for you to claim that Iraq released its 12,000 page dossier before Congress voted on the AUMF (That’ means “Authority to Use Military Force,” Barfly) when in fact Iraq released the dossier two months AFTER Congress voted to grant the president the authority to use force.

By the way, Barfly, can’t help but notice that you have failed to answer Dale’s request that you back up your unsubstantiated allegation….Heh! I love how you run away when your assertions are disproved, refuse to provide any evidence, and then sneak back into the thread at 2:00 in the morning so that you don’t have to face the music and the fact you were proven wrong….again.

You are a very amusing little fella!

]]> By: keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1784376 keith Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:00:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1784376 When Lincoln took office, the thirteen most conservative states seceeded from the Union because of their hatred of Lincoln and their fears that they might not own people anymore and might have to pay people wages for their backbreaking work. The absolute base of the Republican party today are these same thirteen states who hate Lincoln in 2007. Yet, in contradicton, they mention Lincoln as proof of how great the Republican Party is and will use even bogus quotes to do this. Conservatives today are still in favor of owning people and not paying them wages for backbreaking work. When Lincoln took office, the thirteen most conservative states seceeded from the Union because of their hatred of Lincoln and their fears that they might not own people anymore and might have to pay people wages for their backbreaking work.

The absolute base of the Republican party today are these same thirteen states who hate Lincoln in 2007. Yet, in contradicton, they mention Lincoln as proof of how great the Republican Party is and will use even bogus quotes to do this.

Conservatives today are still in favor of owning people and not paying them wages for backbreaking work.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1780768 big papa Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:30:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1780768 <em>When Lincoln was alive, people like our good Rep. would have wanted nothing to do with him.</em> Comment by KYJurisDoctor #151 <strong>Which proves how spectacularly STUPID they (Repulsivescum) are... ...since Lincoln was just as racist (if not more) as any Repulsivescum conned'self-servative is today (or during his day)...</strong> When Lincoln was alive, people like our good Rep. would have wanted nothing to do with him.

Comment by KYJurisDoctor #151

Which proves how spectacularly STUPID they (Repulsivescum) are…

…since Lincoln was just as racist (if not more) as any Repulsivescum conned’self-servative is today (or during his day)…

]]> By: Lauren http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1779261 Lauren Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:53:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1779261 Harpers Weekly- 1863 Lauren Harpers Weekly- 1863

Lauren

]]> By: Redwing http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1779192 Redwing Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:41:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1779192 Don Young haas made a living by being stupid and saying stupid things. He's the "bridge to nowhere guy" as well. I'm sure he doesn't know what it means to retract a quote. Don Young haas made a living by being stupid and saying stupid things. He’s the “bridge to nowhere guy” as well. I’m sure he doesn’t know what it means to retract a quote.

]]> By: thebigerns http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1778314 thebigerns Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:10:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1778314 Wait -- Lincoln also said that the government should give me a million dollars... tax free! No really, he did! And another mil for my wife, Morgan Fairchild... yea... he said that. Wait — Lincoln also said that the government should give me a million dollars… tax free! No really, he did! And another mil for my wife, Morgan Fairchild…

yea… he said that.

]]> By: Ryan Smith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1775242 Ryan Smith Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:22:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1775242 Lauren <blockquote>How would you deomcrats know what is the truth and what isnt?</blockquote> by looking it up <blockquote>truth (trūth) pronunciation n., pl. truths (trūTHz, trūths). 1. Conformity to fact or actuality. 2. A statement proven to be or accepted as true. 3. Sincerity; integrity. 4. Fidelity to an original or standard. 5. 1. Reality; actuality. 2. often Truth That which is considered to be the supreme reality and to have the ultimate meaning and value of existence. </blockquote> Although I'm guessing you ment to type truthiness. Lauren

How would you deomcrats know what is the truth and what isnt?

by looking it up

truth (trūth) pronunciation
n., pl. truths (trūTHz, trūths).

1. Conformity to fact or actuality.
2. A statement proven to be or accepted as true.
3. Sincerity; integrity.
4. Fidelity to an original or standard.
5. 1. Reality; actuality.
2. often Truth That which is considered to be
the supreme reality and to have the ultimate
meaning and value of existence.

Although I’m guessing you ment to type truthiness.

]]> By: Barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/comment-page-4/#comment-1774148 Barfly Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:26:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/16/young-lincoln/#comment-1774148 But then, that's the Exley way; just like his hero, Bush, whenever he can't prove what he claims, he simply makes stuff up. But then, that’s the Exley way; just like his hero, Bush, whenever he can’t prove what he claims, he simply makes stuff up.

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