Breaking: Senate rejects debate on anti-escalation resolution.
AP reports: “The Senate gridlocked on the Iraq war in a sharply worded showdown on Saturday as Republicans foiled a Democratic attempt to rebuke President Bush over his deployment of 21,500 additional combat troops. The vote was 56-34.” That was four short of the 60 needed to advance the measure, which is identical to a nonbinding resolution that passed the House on Friday.
UPDATE: “The vote marked the second time this winter that Senate Republicans have blocked action on nonbinding measures critical of the president’s war policies. This time, however, there were signs of restlessness within the GOP. Seven Republicans broke with their leadership, compared with only two on the previous test vote.”
UPDATE II: Full roll call vote here.
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Sorry to say “I told ya so” but…
I TOLD YOU SO SUCKERS!!!
Bwahahahaha
Who`s yer daddy now bitches?
Heel boy, heel.
bwaahhahaha
February 17th, 2007 at 2:20 pmThe numbers don’t add up. 56 yes and you need 6 more to get 60?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:22 pmI TOLD YOU SO SUCKERS!!!
That republicans are desperate to avoid being tarred with the Bush brush? Moral cowards, just like you, fake Sarge.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:23 pmDemocrats will be nashing their teeth over the fact that the Republicans filibustered this, but they didn’t say a word when John Bolton’s nomination was filibustered. Serves them right.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:23 pmThe majority of lemming GOP continue to follow Bush over a cliff.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:24 pm#1: Who’s yer daddy now bitches?
Why do you hate our troops so much, Sgt. Stryker?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:24 pmIt looks like the Democrats have just been handed a veto-proof 60 seat Senate majority in 2008.
#1 I don’t understand your comment. Please explain.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:25 pmGood. I would rather the Democrats AND Republicans (especially those up for re-election in 2008), get nothing in way of cover for the war. If they will not put a stop to it, then I want them entirely culpable, and held responsible at their election and at their war trials.
And keep in mind, either House, and either party can put a stop to the war in the next month when the appropriation comes up for a vote. Wonder how they will vote?
The Washington Party will not be removed by your voting, and they know it. They have made a career studying how to play you, and play you they are.
Still voting?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:26 pmAh, that would be 4 short, not 6 short. But still……………idiots
February 17th, 2007 at 2:27 pmBE IT RESOLVED THAT BECAUSE
1) Democrats lied to get into office by promising to do things for the American people within the first 100 hours and not delivering,
2) Democrats have been abject failures in waging the war on terrorism,
3) Democrats have openly and privately attacked our soldiers both home and abroad,
4) Democrats have not “drained the swamp” and have, in fact, been found guilty of the very corruption they claim to be fighting in the Republican Party, and
5) the war on terrorism is too important to be left to corrupt, intellectually dishonest, and cowardly people,
That the undersigned do hereby consider Election 2006 to be the non-binding resolution of the American voters. As a result, the results of said election are hereby nullified and new elections are to be held as soon as possible.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI think that would be 4 short.
Repugs hate our troops. So does our president. Hell, they hate American.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:28 pmSgt Stryker,my ass!
February 17th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWho’s Marine Corps were you in? Only a nitwit chickenhawk, would call himself Sgt Stryker,as no Sgt S. served in the Corps. That was John Wayne play-acting himself as a Marine!
Democrats will be nashing their teeth over the fact that the Republicans filibustered this, but they didn’t say a word when John Bolton’s nomination was filibustered. Serves them right.
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
This is just the sort of pathetic idiocy I have come to expect from Bush followers. Somehow in mandolin’s peabrain, Bush not getting his very controversial appointment to a powerless UN approved is equivalent to the Republicans defying the will of 70% of Americans about a war that has dragged on for 4 years, despite administration predictions that it would take well under six months. Yeah, mandolin, your guys in Congress are doing what they can to give Bush YET ANOTHER chance to screw things up. Keep lowering the bar for them.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:29 pmNUCLEAR OPTION!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 2:30 pmThe AP subtracted incorrectly. We’ve fixed it.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:30 pmSerious troll alert on #10. Freak show in progress.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:31 pm#4: Democrats will be nashing their teeth over the fact that the Republicans filibustered this, but they didn’t say a word when John Bolton’s nomination was filibustered. Serves them right.
Right. Because as far as you’re concerned. None of this has anything to do with what’s right. It’s all just politics.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:32 pmIf they can’t even pass a non binding resolution, there is no way they will ever be able to defund the war.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:32 pm#8: The Washington Party will not be removed by your voting, and they know it. They have made a career studying how to play you, and play you they are.
Still voting?
Wow, you are sooooo sophisticated. I mean, not voting! Wow. That’ll show ‘em.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:34 pm“Stryker”, Mandolin,
Thank you for illustrating so clearly the priorities of the modern GOP/Right-wing movement: party and power first, country/troops/Americans a distant second.
You guys are “exhibit A” for the idiocy of your movement, and are simply helping put your beliefs six feet under.
Thomas,
February 17th, 2007 at 2:34 pmYou’re a bona fide fool. Let’s leave it at that.
#18: If they can’t even pass a non binding resolution, there is no way they will ever be able to defund the war.
Probably true. And you think this is a good thing?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:34 pmThe GOP doesn’t want a debate an issue they lose at every turn. They will have a chance to “debate” and also justify their support of this failed president and his unpopular and failing Iraq policy in 2008. Once again, the Repubilcan Senators are out of touch with America. They must yearn for the old days of safe Terri Schiavo, gay mariage, and flag burning votes.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:35 pmIf they can’t even pass a non binding resolution, there is no way they will ever be able to defund the war.
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Like that old hippy 60’s tune by Sonny and Cher, “And the beat goes onnnnnnnnn”!
Bwahahahahahaha
I love it when LibProgs are left standing with a mouth full of crow and egg all over their face.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:36 pmWait till 2008 or take a page right out of the GOP playbook…
http://www.cfif.org/ htdocs/ legislative_issues/ federal_issues/ hot_issues_in_congress/ confirmation_watch/ nuclear_option.htm
February 17th, 2007 at 2:37 pm#10: That the undersigned do hereby consider Election 2006 to be the non-binding resolution of the American voters. As a result, the results of said election are hereby nullified and new elections are to be held as soon as possible.
Why do you hate democracy so much, Mr. Lindaman?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:37 pmHow much is this war costing? $1,000,000,000,000? What did the administration predict? $50,000,000? So the war has cost 20 times as much and lasted 10 times as long as they predicted. Never mind the half a million dead, ‘cuz it’s just brown people, mostly terrorists.
Where do supporters of this war derive succor after so long, and so much failure? I can’t imagine what goes in on their addled, reality-denying minds.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:38 pmKeep pounding Dems, the more these Republic senators defend and back this President against the wishes of the American people, the better our chances in ’08.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:39 pmHow much you wanna bet that, between the four or five wingnuts allegedly trolling this thread, we actually have only one or two people?
Of course, wingnuts would never do anything so dishonest. They actually care about the truth, right?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:39 pm#13 FeralKint
Bush not getting his very controversial appointment to a powerless UN approved
That sort of makes my point. Requiring 60 votes to vote on the nomination of ambassador to the UN is necessary to the dems, but something as important as the war should only be decided by 50 votes. That is a very twisted viewpoint.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:40 pmRachel alert, #23.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:40 pm#23: I love it when LibProgs are left standing with a mouth full of crow and egg all over their face.
And do you love it also when the President of the United States lies to the American people to justify war? How about when thousands of American troops end up in body bags? Or when thousands more have their arms and legs blown off?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:41 pmThe 34 need to look for new jobs; they’re supporting a very unpopular war, and with new troops returning (unphotographed) in flag-draped boxes every week, it’s only going to get less popular.
These guys who support the carnage need to explain themselves…
February 17th, 2007 at 2:41 pmThomas,
You’re a bona fide fool. Let’s leave it at that.
Comment by Misc — February 17, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
I took a quick look at Lindaman’s blog. Fool doesn’t quite capture his essence. Nut is more like it.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:41 pmMandolin,
February 17th, 2007 at 2:42 pmNo, it actually doesn’t make your point. Give it some thought, and come back when you figure it out.
Gladys Kravitz,
You like it when Americans are shipped off to Iraq and die in the name of Republicans? Suit yourself. I’m glad “LibProgs” aren’t so insensitive (and idiotic) as you.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHey, “Thomas”,
There’s a guy down in Texas who sounds like he might be your idol. He’s in the Texas legislature, and he believes the sun goes ’round the Earth.
You should check it out.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWell write down the ones who have their heads’ up their butt and lets show them the door in ‘08.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:46 pmProbably true. And you think this is a good thing?
Comment by Luke — February 17, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Yup, because the reinforcements will soon be on the way to kick some butt. Mookie al-Sadr got the message and has left Iraq all together.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThat is a very twisted viewpoint.
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
Come election day, we’ll see just how twisted the public thinks it is, sport.
The Republicans took a hard beating in November, but they don’t seem to have learned anything from it. But resistance to learning has almost come to define Republicans these days.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThank you for illustrating so clearly the priorities of the modern GOP/Right-wing movement: party and power first, country/troops/Americans a distant second.
Comment by Misc — February 17, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Isn’t that TREASON?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWe are witness to the end of the GOP. How much longer can these professed “conservatives” keep supporting an Administration who is neither conservative nor Republican? History will paint the Bush-Neocon thing an abject failure. Too bad so many Americans had to die for this failed President and his failed policies. RIP GOP.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:49 pm#41 FeralKint,
Come election day, we’ll see just how twisted the public thinks it is, sport.
Sounds good to me sport.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:50 pmYup, because the reinforcements will soon be on the way to kick some butt. Mookie al-Sadr got the message and has left Iraq all together.
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
I am going to repeat my words from comment #26 (sorry about dropping those zeroes in the $50 billion, by the way, but you get the point):
Where do supporters of this war derive succor after so long, and so much failure? I can’t imagine what goes in on their addled, reality-denying minds.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:51 pmMandolin,
the reinforcements being sent are a drop in the bucket compared to what would actually be required to quell the violence in Baghdad alone, much less the entire country.
You write like a kid who thinks war is cool, and who has absolutely no knowledge of anything military past OD’ing on “24″ and Arnold movies.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:51 pmMookie al-Sadr got the message and has left Iraq all together.
Comment by mandolin
Wrong again. But then that’s your track record, so it’s no big surprise.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:54 pm“The real voice of the United States was opposed to this war from the start, or if not opposed to it, at least mature enough to support another’s right to oppose it. The real American citizen understood that debate and dialogue were necessary before such an important decision. But there could be no debate when there were so many lies floating about. Only now, as the child-like hysteria and shrieking panic has died down, and as more adults try to take the dangerous toys out of the children’s hands, have we come to understand that this war was a terrible idea sold by a very small amount of neoconservatives through an enormous megaphone. The only majority these ideologues ever had was in the media: all the networks, all the major newspapers, all the cable news programs acted as the advertising arm of the
government in selling this war. The American people were inconsequential. They weren’t part of the equation. They were sold an illusion and were cowed into silence by intimidation. In the ensuing years those people have slowly and steadily found their voice and the courage to use it again. And so we see the results in our recent elections. And from the chattering classes come phrases like “democracy works” and “the people have spoken”. The democrats talk of raising the minimum wage and fixing the health care system. But it would be a grave mistake for the people of the United States to believe that their real voice has been heard. We are, despite the recent vote, still living in our fiction. We are still living in Orwell’s Oceania, where truth has been turned on its ear, where black is white, day is night, and ignorance is strength. We live in a country that allows impeachment for a
president that lied about an extra marital affair but reacts with contempt at the idea that lying about war is a punishable offense. The hundreds of thousands of dead, injured, and uprooted by this unnecessary invasion should just get over it.”
- Tim Robbins on Huffington Post
“This is all part of their plan to eliminate funding for our troops that are in harm’s way”
- Rep. Boehner.
“Treason” “Shameful vote in Congress” - NY Daily News
No.
This is all part of the GOP Neocon Globalist Corporatist plan to enslave the United States and the rest of the world. When you look at Cheney, Bush, Bin Laden and the Oil and Weapons cartels, you are looking at the actual terrorists in this world, and when you read the newspapers and watch virtually anything on the television, the news and the shows, the sports commentators and the commercials, you are looking at their propaganda machine, which was once our free press, but has been stolen from us. We all must ask one fundamental question: Why are our troops in
harm’s way to begin with? This leads us to the heart of things and to answers.
“The Republican controlled Senate patently refused even to hear that Halliburton, Blackwater, CACI, Titan and others were raping the taxpayers of this country, while making an ill-planned invasion into a full-fledged disaster, assuring that the only real winners in Iraq would be those companies that had sufficiently close ties to the White House to earn them a free ride in a war that leads us daily closer to the brink.”
-Huffington Post
The GOP, after enabling and overseeing this massive and by their own admission systemic waste, fraud and abuse, is now attempting to insinuate that it is somehow the majority voices of opposition to their own policys which constitute advocacy of a “slow bleed” policy toward the overall situation and most importantly toward our valiant american troops; our very own flesh and blood. Tens of millions, or hundreds of millions of our tax dollars have been mismanaged, wasted and stolen under the watch of this unelected administration. Think about these numbers. Tens, or even hundreds of millions just in fraud, just in Iraq. A total of six hundred and fifty billion spent on this war in Iraq alone, initiated by a leader who stole his office. A nine trillion dollar national debt. Well over one half a million American, Afghani, and Iraqi HUMAN BEINGS killed. The only “slow bleed” policy anyone is advocating is the deliberate slow bleeding of America by Cheney, Bush, their globalist corporate masters including the oil and weapons cartels, their enablers in the GOP and the GOP controlled media, and any democrat or other cohort who can in any way support these unsupportable policys and still somehow live with themselves.
How much, exactly, does one set of body armor cost? How much, exactly, is one of our American Soldiers lives worth? You cannot put a value on one American soldiers life, or on any human beings life. Why did our own CIA encourage, train and support the expansion of a handful of the very islamic terrorists we now face into a group comprising hundreds of thousands? Why do we have photos of Don Rumsfeld smiling and shaking hands with Saddam Hussein? Where were the funds for the development of clean safe sustainable renewable independent American energy for the past fifty years? Why are these alternatives even now still being
deliberately suppressed, underfunded, ignored and lied about in our media?
Where was every possible effort at diplomacy? Where was the use of our Special Forces? Where was essential planning and consultation that must precede any military action? Where were our defenses on 9/11? Why were jets scrambled from hundreds of miles away rather than from our bases minutes from our towers? Why were millions placed short on air stocks days before 9/11? How did Building Number 7 WTC implode when it wasn’t struck? What, exactly, was in Building #7 WTC that has now been lost and destroyed? Where are the forensic answers to these questions
SIX YEARS after 9/11? Why did Bush, who vowed to capture or kill Bin Laden, state that he doesn’t “really think that much about him”? The fact is there is a conspiracy, and there has been a conspiracy for decades. It feeds on your credulity and goodness,
and will be defeated by unwavering honesty and dedication to the core American values which the GOP has continually attempted to arrogate and appropropriate to themselves from the rest of us.
It is now a matter of well-established and undeniable fact that most of the leaders of the GOP, which at least since the time of the detestable Joe McCarthy has endlessly pointed its fingers at everyone ELSE, yammering on and on and on about “Personal Responsibility” and “Family Values” and “Smaller Government” and “Patriotic Duty” and “Supporting Our Troops” etc etc etc, in actual reality, as opposed to the wholesale lies they endlessly spew
through our media, which they have also stolen and stripped of our Equal Time and our Fairness Doctrine provisions, couldn’t have and still don’t care less about anything other than their own unmitigated and unnaceptable, unamerican and wholly inhuman greed.
Even if you don’t believe there is a conspiracy to control and enslave you, just the basic record forces all reasonable people to conclude that there is most definitely a conspiracy predicated on greed. That the Daily News of New York City, of all places, could construe our national vote in our Congress as treason on its own front page is beyond the pale, as is their disgraceful attempt to silence us, their own city neighbors, particulary in light of what we endured on 9/11, and ever since, with “shame”.
The actions of Cheney and Bush, starting with their wholesale theft of two of our U.S. Presidential elections, are in fact nothing less than deliberate intentional outright actual treason, cowardice against their own country, which they have attempted to cloak in
our flag, sending our troops to die for their profit, and further attempted to suppress opposition to this outrage to OUR NATION, OUR LIBERTY, OUR RIGHTS, OUR CONSTITUTION, AND OUR BEST AND BRAVEST MEN AND WOMEN, all under this despicable use of the guise of so-called “patriotism”.
“The only reason our troops will be dispirited, and Al Qaeda emboldened, is because some of the most senior voices in the American government told them that this is the meaning of the debate this week in Washington. Every Senator, House member, and general who told our troops that 63% of Americans and the majority of the Congress hate them, and who told our enemy that the majority of Americans have lost the will to fight the war on terror, have in my view committed treason. There is no other
explanation for why Republicans would be so cavalier about sending such an awful message to our troops and our enemy.” -John Avarosis, AmericaBlog
Patriotism, in case Cheney, Bush, the GOP or their media whores don’t know it, means never, ever, ever selling out your own country. Impeachment is NOTan option, it is ESSENTIAL for the preservation of the United States of America, and for the maintenance of Human Liberty and Freedom itself. This involves politics and religion, but is far more important than any political party, or any religious belief or non-belief. Our generation must now save our nation and our planet if we are to leave either a free nation, or an inhabitable planet to human posterity itself. We cannot and we must not fail this time, and We, the People of The United States of America shall not fail, as the lies and the lying liars are evident for all to see, and because We the People are most assuredly awake. This was very bad news for Joe Mc Carthy, and for his assistant Richard Nixon, and it will be no less so for the current GOP gangmembers as America and her good people have never had anything to fear from tyrants.
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February 17th, 2007 at 2:55 pmYou write like a kid who thinks war is cool, and who has absolutely no knowledge of anything military past OD’ing on “24″ and Arnold movies.
Comment by Misc — February 17, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
I concur with your description of mandolin.
The number of soldiers has been a farce since the beginning of the war. Knowledge of Iraq’s population and some simple math shows how ridiculous it is, even to non-experts. Big city police departments have better staffing than that. The incompetence of the Bush administration has been staggering. Expecting anything else from this administration is insane.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:55 pmMandolin,
the reinforcements being sent are a drop in the bucket compared to what would actually be required to quell the violence in Baghdad alone, much less the entire country.
Comment by Misc — February 17, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
But you do believe that an increase in troops will quell the violence in Iraq.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:56 pmDeadenders is the problem here, and I’m not talking about chumps like mandolin and Thomas. I’m talking about our Republican congressmen.
February 17th, 2007 at 2:58 pmBut you do believe that an increase in troops will quell the violence in Iraq.
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Huh?
February 17th, 2007 at 2:59 pmStryker & Mandolin.
I don’t entirely disagree with you on onething: You guys like most of your brethen in Israeli are really really sick. I perfectly feel your joy like the arrested Israeli High Fivers found jubilating beside the world trade center, when it was hit: More war! More Blood! More Death! AS IF YOUR COUNTRY IS A COUNTRY OF GOBLINS and FIENDS, FOUND ON HUMAN SUFFERING, AND YOUR GREATEST WORLD ACHIEVMENT IS DESTRUCTION OF OTHER COUNTRIES LIVES AND BELIEVES. AND THE ONLY THING YOU REPRESENT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LIKE YOU IS FEAR AND PAIN! Wow! Jesus must be the boldest man on earth to ever preach peace to you snakes.
We all know the whole orld hates Bush, except for the Israelis, who probably claimed they suffered so much for WWII; yet this same people have benefited extremely and hugely from the Global Holocaust Marketing Inc. That leaves you wondering who really benefited and who suffered from what?
So, the clear warning and danger of this vote is:
1. What is the hope that this same kind of filibuster wouldn’t happen when the Demons want to block the Rip-publicans once Butch starts bombing Iran?
2. Whats the hope that more escalation wouldn’t take place, because I am already getting alot of news that some wackos like McCain think Butch should send in more troops?
Even a rigged boxing contest is far more convincing than the faked vote today!
February 17th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAre you really that fu*king stupid?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:03 pmComment by Spudge_Boy — February 17, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
How old are you? 15, 16? Why don’t you try to have a conversation without using senseless vulgarity?
I for one believe that adding more troops to Baghdad will promote further violence overall, not less. Some high ranking generals have said this same thing, after which they have been able to spend more time with their families. Only yes men get to stay with this CIC. And authority lovers like mandolin lap it up.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:04 pmBut you do believe that an increase in troops will quell the violence in Iraq.
Mandolin,
Most likely — that’s the military consensus. If you add enough troops, you could eventually smother the violence. But let’s be clear: the number we’re talking about would be 3-4 times the total number there now.
To get that done, you’d need a draft. That’s not going to happen as long as Americans see interfering in an Iraqi civil war as a distraction from actual American interests.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:04 pmMajor anti-Semitism alert on #56 by creasybear
February 17th, 2007 at 3:05 pmI swear, the trolls are all drunk now days, drowning their sorrows from the trouncing last nov. or these are the last holdouts of the 28%ers with room temperature IQs.
so sad…
The battleground after the november elections was destined to be in the Senate, just by the numbers. The Republicans do not have the votes to stop any bills from passing in the House.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:07 pmThe Senate, democrats have the majority, barely. And some of the Democratic Senators for the last 6 years have been republican-lites, democrat in name only.
We already knew this lamer trolls.
the reinforcements being sent are a drop in the bucket compared to what would actually be required to quell the violence in Baghdad alone, much less the entire country.
Misc thinks there is an actuall amount of troops that could quell the violence in Iraq. Granted, he doesn’t think 20,000 is sufficient. How many will it take?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:07 pmOnce upon a time Iraq could have been held together and pacified by 300-400K troops (basically what Shineski and Powell recommended). So much trouble has been released, and so much hatred inspired by the occupation, that I believe it might take twice that many now. Obviously they aren’t available. But 20K troops? You’ve got to be kidding me.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#40: Yup, because the reinforcements will soon be on the way to kick some butt.
What, exactly, do you think 21,000 additional U.S. troops will be able to do that 147,000 troops and 48,000 “private military contractors” have been unable to do?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIf 20,000 troops won’t help, why did Mookie al-Sadr flee the country?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWhy don’t you try to have a conversation without using senseless vulgarity?
Comment by mandolin —
Right back at you — can’t you present a case that doesn’t include already debunked talking points?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:13 pmHey Spudge,
February 17th, 2007 at 3:16 pmYou never got back to me on your theory that Bush leaked info about the wounding of al-Masri to the Iraqi government. Since you’re here now, maybe you could explain it to me.
If 20,000 troops won’t help, why did Mookie al-Sadr flee the country?
Comment by mandolin
Links?
Actually he didn’t, but right-wing media are like a puppy with a chew toy. It’s already been torn apart, but they keep chewing, ’cause it’s instinctive.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe update is incorrect — wrong date.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:17 pmPLEASE VOTE: IS BUSH THE WORST EVER PRESIDENT?
http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2007/ 2/ 17/ 151326/ 793
February 17th, 2007 at 3:17 pmSo much trouble has been released, and so much hatred inspired by the occupation, that I believe it might take twice that many now. Obviously they aren’t available. But 20K troops? You’ve got to be kidding me.
Comment by VerbalKint
Yeah, it is amazing that the Bush administration never realized that nothing will grow and insurgency like torturing, murder of civilians and melting the skin off of children with WP.
Think they would have learned from Vietnam? nope.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:17 pmFeralKnit,
Comment number one means just what it says. You have egg all over your face my friend. And how is that roast crow that you are NOW eating after this vote?
Baked, Fried or Extra Krispy?
Well back to FoxNews!
See ya LOSERS!!!
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Feral KNIT the TWIT
In a nutshell, get used to a BushCo empire that will NEVER END!
There WILL BE NO 2008 Elections!
Last time I warn anyone about this!
Bushes are IT!
Period! It is just the way it is and the way it is always going to be.
Get used to it!
February 17th, 2007 at 3:17 pmFeralKnit,
Comment number one means just what it says. You have egg all over your face my friend. And how is that roast crow that you are NOW eating after this vote?
Baked, Fried or Extra Krispy?
Well back to FoxNews!
See ya LOSERS!!!
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Feral KNIT the TWIT
In a nutshell, get used to a BushCo empire that will NEVER END!
There WILL BE NO 2008 Elections!
Last time I warn anyone about this!
Bushes are IT!
Period! It is just the way it is and the way it is always going to be.
Get used to it!
February 17th, 2007 at 3:19 pmstryker = psychotroll rachel
meds wear off again rachel?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:22 pmyou should really check with your shrin… umm… doctor and get your prescription re-evaluated.
Last time I warn anyone about this!
Promises, promises. What else can one expect from a fake soldier?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:22 pmYeah, it is amazing that the Bush administration never realized that nothing will grow and insurgency like torturing, murder of civilians and melting the skin off of children with WP.
Think they would have learned from Vietnam? nope.
Comment by Wayne — February 17, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
February 17th, 2007 at 3:24 pmIf only you had focused your outrage at the enemy when they were sawing the heads off American citizens
#67: If 20,000 troops won’t help, why did Mookie al-Sadr flee the country?
Right. So, the escalation strategy is to take on the Shia militias (of whom al-Sadr is one of the key leaders)? So far, Shia militias, unlike the insurgency, are not targeting American troops. But it looks like the administration is set to change that. By escalating the war to include the increasingly popular al-Sadr, the Bush administration runs the danger of losing the Shia altogether, which means that the U.S. will be targeted not only by the Sunni insurgency and by foreign Islamic extremists, but also by Shia militias. This means more U.S. casualties and more death and destruction.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:25 pmApologies to the NY Daily News. It was the NY Post which ran the headline referenced in the essay above.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#80: If only you had focused your outrage at the enemy when they were sawing the heads off American citizens[.]
If only you would focus on a strategy intended to fight terrorism effectively, rather than igniting sectarian violence in Iraq, a country that neither attacked nor threatened us prior to the U.S. invasion.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:30 pmComment by mandolin
I notice you do not condemn the torure or the murders by our side, while it is documented in this very blog in many threads my condemnation of the beheadings.
We, the United States of America are supposed to be the good guys. The good guys are not supposed to torture and murder, if we do that, we are no different from those we fight against.
too bad your neocon mind cannot grasp that concept in your closed little mind.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:32 pmStryker,
February 17th, 2007 at 3:33 pmHow about a little background from your days in the Corps? Or is that asking to much for a 38 year-old gay, overweight janitor, blogging from the Public library?
#81
February 17th, 2007 at 3:35 pmMookie has been killing Iraqi civilians. But I guess you don’t care about that. The people who write on this site will shout all day that US soldiers are murdering Iraqi civilians, but they could care less if Mookie Bear is murdering them. Why don’t you all just come out and say it. You think all war is bad and you will do anything to stop any war no matter what the consequence. And if you have to slander men and woman who are risking their lives,and call them murderers and rapists and claim they are killing innocent people for no reason, that’s just what you have to do.
If only you had focused your outrage at the enemy when they were sawing the heads off American citizens
Comment by mandolin
Who were there because of an invasion conducted under false pretenses - play that on your fascist banjo.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:37 pmWe, the United States of America are supposed to be the good guys.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:37 pmComment by Wayne — February 17, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
Just say it Wayne. You think we are the bad guys. Just come right out and say it.
I can’t help but notice that there were at least four Democrats who voted nay.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:39 pm#85
February 17th, 2007 at 3:39 pmThat was offensive to gays, janitors and librarians.
instead of voting their conscience - those who have one - the repugs voted to be spiteful about having to work on a saturday…
February 17th, 2007 at 3:39 pmmy guess…
Mookie has been killing Iraqi civilians. But I guess you don’t care about that. — mandolin with broken strings.
That would’t be because there is a civil war in Iraq right now, would it?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:42 pmJust another reason to get our troops out now, this has become a suni vs shia fight and we are in the middle getting shot at from both sides.
Right back at you — can’t you present a case that doesn’t include already debunked talking points?
Comment by Barfly — February 17, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
This is perhaps my main complaint about trolls: they are relentlessly dishonest in debate, then act self-righteous and indignant when someone puts a shoe on them that fits. Bunch of drama queens.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:45 pmwhich means that the U.S. will be targeted not only by the Sunni insurgency and by foreign Islamic extremists, but also by Shia militias. This means more U.S. casualties and more death and destruction.
Comment by Luke — February 17, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
With Bush at the helm, our soldiers will literally have to shoot their way out of the country when we finally drag our sorry asses out of there. Brilliant, Shrub, just brilliant. The man is a loser of historical proportions, a failed human being.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:48 pm#86: Mookie has been killing Iraqi civilians. But I guess you don’t care about that. The people who write on this site will shout all day that US soldiers are murdering Iraqi civilians, but they could care less if Mookie Bear is murdering them. Why don’t you all just come out and say it. You think all war is bad and you will do anything to stop any war no matter what the consequence. And if you have to slander men and woman who are risking their lives,and call them murderers and rapists and claim they are killing innocent people for no reason, that’s just what you have to do.
Where did I call U.S. soldiers murderers and rapists? Or is that a straw man?
What I said is that if the U.S. escalates the war to include al-Sadr and the Shia militias, they will cause the Shia militias to start targeting American troops, which they haven’t up to this point. This means that more American troops will be killed. Do you take this to somehow mean that I’m defending al-Sadr?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:48 pm#92 You would allow Mookie Teeth to continue to kill Iraqis?
February 17th, 2007 at 3:48 pmJust say it Wayne. You think we are the bad guys. Just come right out and say it.
Comment by mandolin
If we are torturing and commiting war crimes, our government has gone rogue and has violated international as well as US Law.
If that is the case, YES, we became the same as the bad guys and we have violated the genieva convention thus voiding any protection our pow’s had had under it. I see you don’t seem to care about that little fact.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:48 pmJust come right out and say it.
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Well, you are running out of talking points. The ones you already used have been debunked, so now you have to resort to strawman arguments, projections, and evasions.
Talking about whether or not posters here were outraged over the beheading of American citizens is completely beside he point (I am sure they were outraged, but were they to say it you’d claim they are lying anyway -we’ve all played that game already here).
What remains the main point is that this escalation will not quell the violence, it will make it worse.
Funny how it doesn’t strike you as odd that US troops should be fighting the very same people the White House claims to be liberating.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:50 pmMookie has been killing Iraqi civilians.
Says the tough little troll, who likes to think it’s manly to call names - but not to fight in the war.
What a coward.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:52 pmIf we are torturing and commiting war crimes, our government has gone rogue and has violated international as well as US Law.
If that is the case, YES, we became the same as the bad guys and we have violated the genieva convention thus voiding any protection our pow’s had had under it. I see you don’t seem to care about that little fact.
Comment by Wayne — February 17, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
Clearly you think we ARE doing these things because you said so in your above comments. So you can drop the “IF THAT IS THE CASE” nonesense and just say what you think.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:52 pmSgt Stryker has moved up to the most recent post about the vote, with his/her butt-pirate buddy,Elmer Fudd!
February 17th, 2007 at 3:55 pmFunny how it doesn’t strike you as odd that US troops should be fighting the very same people the White House claims to be liberating.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — February 17, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
An eerie parallel to Vietnam.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:56 pmSays the tough little troll, who likes to think it’s manly to call names - but not to fight in the war.
What a coward.
Comment by Barfly — February 17, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
I’m sorry I offended you by calling Muqtada al-Sadr a name. I’ll try to be more understanding of your deep love for him.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#96: You would allow Mookie Teeth to continue to kill Iraqis?
What do you mean by “allow”? Iraq is in the middle of a civil war. Sunni insurgents are killing Shias, and Shia militias are killing Sunnis. Both groups kill Kurds. Foreign Islamic extremists are coming into the country to kill U.S. troops. No one gave them permission, you fool. It’s a war.
February 17th, 2007 at 3:58 pmClearly you think we ARE doing these things — mandolin
Thats pretty clear. Sorry you have trouble grasping concepts past your Rovian talking points.
The torure in Abu Grabass is well documented as well as the murder trials that are going on. Also the secret prisons and the reditioning. Sadly these things are comming out in European courts because our Government is not policing itself or following even it’s own laws.
Anyone who does not see this is willfully blind.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:02 pm#104
February 17th, 2007 at 4:02 pmThat doesn’t make sense. Maybe you should clarify. There is difference in allowing and giving permission.
The “roll call” link goes to the roll call from the 107th Congress for the “authorization to use force against Iraq” vote, not this current one.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:07 pm#105
February 17th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI just want you to say it one time without clever wording that suggests that we may be the bad guys if we are doing these things. Just say the US military tortures,murders and rapes innocent people and that they are the Bad guys. I’ll await your clear cut statement.
That doesn’t make sense. Comment by mandolin
Yes, I have noticed your lack of comprehension with even the smallest concepts. Don’t blame us for your room temperature IQ.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#106: That doesn’t make sense. Maybe you should clarify. There is difference in allowing and giving permission.
You’re suggesting that if the U.S. doesn’t escalate the war to include al-Sadr and the Shia militias, then it’s “allow[ing] [al-Sadr] to continue to kill Iraqis.” Your formulation assumes that if the U.S. doesn’t escalate the war to include al-Sadr and his followers, then it’s tantamount to “allowing” them to do the horrific things that they do. By this logic, the Bush administration is “allowing” genocide in Sudan, “allowing” the Taliban to regain a foothold in Afghanistan, and “allowing” the government of Uzbekistan to boil political prisoners alive.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:11 pm#110
February 17th, 2007 at 4:12 pmAnd what about the permission part?
“The US Government tortures, rapes,and murders innocent people everyday”! How’s that Mandolin,Elmer Fudd or Stryker,or what troll name your using!
February 17th, 2007 at 4:15 pmI’ll bet that felt good Frank. It’s like some kind of hippie anger management. Maybe all of you should say how you feel. Especially you Wayne.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:17 pm#111: And what about the permission part?
Huh?
February 17th, 2007 at 4:19 pmI’ll await your clear cut statement.
Comment by mandolin
After you disprove my previous statement. I’m done trying to make any concept fit in your tiny mind. learn to read troll.
What exactly IS your stance by the way? I don’t believe you have actually stated it. You just try to nit pick at other posts.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:19 pm#113: I’ll bet that felt good Frank. It’s like some kind of hippie anger management. Maybe all of you should say how you feel.
Mandolin, you seem to think that people who oppose the war believe that U.S. troops are murderers and rapists. Why don’t you come out and say what you really believe, which is that anyone who disagrees with you should be convicted of treason and hanged?
February 17th, 2007 at 4:22 pmMaybe all of you should say how you feel. Especially you Wayne.
Comment by mandolin
ok, F*ck you and the mess you neocons have turned this country into. That good enough you fascist slimeball?
Now answer my previous post, troll
February 17th, 2007 at 4:24 pmJust say the US military tortures,murders and rapes innocent people and that they are the Bad guys. I’ll await your clear cut statement.
Comment by mandolin
Strawman.
Why bother answering a strawman question?
Do some in the military do it, banjo?
Yes. Do they all do it? No.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:25 pmDisappointing, yet predictable.
The only thing I find interesting is the lack of the use of the term “Filibuster” in that it is the process central to this story. I seem to recall a very short time ago all the “up and down vote” talk and the painting of the use of the filibuster” as a traitorous act.
Seems things are changing. Excellent.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:27 pmAfter you disprove my previous statement.
Comment by Wayne — February 17, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Abu Graib happened. No argument from me. Soldiers are on trial for murder. No argument from me. That’s not enough for me to call my country “The Bad Guys”, but it’s enough for you. Now that that is cleared up you can feel free to make your statement now.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:27 pm#121: Abu G[h]raib happened. No argument from me. Soldiers are on trial for murder. No argument from me. That’s not enough for me to call my country “The Bad Guysâ€, but it’s enough for you.
You’ve been setting up this straw man for something like ten posts now. I don’t doubt that this is what you truly believe–that anyone who opposes the war sees the U.S. as “The Bad Guys”–but it’s complete bull. On the other hand, you haven’t made a compelling case–or any case at all–that 21,000 additional U.S. troops will reduce the violence in Iraq. Indeed, you appear to have conceded that this will, in all likelihood, increase the violence.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:33 pm#116
February 17th, 2007 at 4:35 pmNo Luke, I don’t believe people who oppose the war think the troops are torturers and rapists. I belive people that call troops torturers and rapists think the troops are torturers and rapists. Such as Wayne.
Luke,
February 17th, 2007 at 4:37 pmAs far as I can tell you have not insinuated that we are the bad guys. Wayne has. Just read his posts.
Why does it take 15 minutes for a comment to post here?
February 17th, 2007 at 4:37 pmThat’s not enough for me to call my country “The Bad Guysâ€, but it’s enough for you. — mandolin
Projection. It also shows a lack of comprehension on your part.
I have stated exactly what I feel and think already, like I always to. Unlike you, I am brutally honest and do not beat ( off ) around ( the ) bush. Rule of Law has to be re-established in an executive branch gone rogue. We have an admitted criminal in the White House who thinks he is above the law.
And again f*ck you and the necons that are enablers for the criminals in the executive branch of our governement. Are you able to grasp that comment in your tiny skull?
February 17th, 2007 at 4:40 pmWhy does it take 15 minutes for a comment to post here?
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
They’re giving you time to catch up moron!!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAre you able to grasp that comment in your tiny skull?
Comment by Wayne
After reading Manny’s “thought-provoking” commentary, that would be a resounding “no.”
February 17th, 2007 at 4:46 pmAnd who are the bad guys? Let’s don’t beat around the bush( I’ll refrain from making a crude sexual joke because I have already graduated high school). Just say it coward.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:46 pmBe brutally honest Wayne. Tell it like it is. Or will you run away like a coward?
February 17th, 2007 at 4:48 pm[…] I have already graduated high school […]
Comment by mandolin — February 17, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
“have already graduated” hahhahaahaahaa LIAR!
February 17th, 2007 at 4:52 pmI’ll make it a simple yes or no. Wayne, do you consider the United States the bad guys? A simple yes or no will do.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:52 pm#122: I belive people that call troops torturers and rapists think the troops are torturers and rapists. Such as Wayne.
Actually, from what I can tell, you and Wayne agree that torture occurred at Abu Ghraib, and that some U.S. soldiers are being investigated for murder. So, you’re saying that you think U.S. soldiers are torturers and murderers?
February 17th, 2007 at 4:56 pmAfter reading Manny’s “thought-provoking†commentary, that would be a resounding “no.â€
Comment by Barfly
hehe, my conclusion as well.
Be brutally honest Wayne. Tell it like it is. Or will you run away like a coward?
Comment by mandolin
I have already answered you and yet you have no substance in any of your responses other than projection and strawmen that are so unintellegent that they deserve no answer.
Post something more thought provoking that a feeble attempt to insult me by calling me a coward. Oh, that hurts me so bad, not . LMAO.
February 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pmLike I have already said, your room temperature IQ is showing.
4 votes shy…
…30% dead-enders are celebrating:
1) unknown number of U.S. /Iraqi militaryand civilian deaths and dismemberments…
2) unknown amount (billions) in waste and fraud…
3) unknown numbers of new enemies made worldwide…
…what kind of beings are these inbred, recessive gene carrying spawn?
…may EVERY right wing, inbred, conned’self-servative Bush/Cheney/Halliburton supporting TRAITOR…
…suffer a non-fatal (yet excruciatingly painful) incurable debilitating disease…
…lose all of their jobs, savings and any property/assets, and are forced into REAL poverty…
…and then…
…most importantly…
…lose their health insurance…
…their Karma demands it…
February 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pmYeah, it is amazing that the Bush administration never realized that nothing will grow and insurgency like torturing, murder of civilians and melting the skin off of children with WP
I notice you do not condemn the torure or the murders by our side
We, the United States of America are supposed to be the good guys. The good guys are not supposed to torture and murder, if we do that, we are no different from those we fight against.
If we are torturing and commiting war crimes, our government has gone rogue and has violated international as well as US Law.
If that is the case, YES, we became the same as the bad guys and we have violated the genieva convention thus voiding any protection our pow’s had had under it.
The torure in Abu Grabass is well documented as well as the murder trials that are going on. Also the secret prisons and the reditioning.
Wayne will say all of this but he want just come out and say we are the bad guys.
Luke,
February 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pmThe difference between Wayne and me is that Wayne will take one isolated incident and use that to try to make it seem like our troops are routinely raping murdering and torturing innocent people.
Come on Wayne. I’m just trying to pick your brain.
February 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmA simple yes or no will do.
Comment by mandolin
Ahh, now we see the real depth of your concious mind, only a yes or no will do for a question that is much more complicated.
I acknowlwdge your disability, and really pity you, but again it is not my fault you have no real comprehension past “A simple yes or no will do.”
February 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmdo you consider the United States the bad guys?
Comment by mandolin #131
The United States government…
…under the control of the criminal right wing Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/Carlyle military/corporate industrial complex…
…and their stupid, braindead, inbred, racist, misogynist, homophobic al Crackkker TREASONOUS Repulsivescum conned’self-servative cultists (that’d be you mandolin)…
…is the greatest EVIL to confront mankind…
…since Hitler’s Third Reich…
…does THAT answer your dumb a*s, intellectually disingenuous prattle?
February 17th, 2007 at 5:17 pmJust give your yes or no first and then you can go on to explain your answer. Is that a fair comprimise?
February 17th, 2007 at 5:17 pmWayne are you posting under the name big papa?
February 17th, 2007 at 5:19 pmManDo’in,
Or should I say BoyDo’in?
You are slower than a bag of wet fireworks!!!
Why is this? Genetics, kool-aid guzzlin’, blinded by big p^nis?
Want to share?
February 17th, 2007 at 5:20 pmDemocrat Controlled Senate Fails to Pass Meaningless Resolution.
February 17th, 2007 at 5:24 pmWayne are you posting under the name big papa?
Comment by mandolin
What a total moron you are. hahaha
Unlike you trolls I never feel the need to change my name. I have posted under the same here since this blog started.
February 17th, 2007 at 5:26 pmThis after listening to that bloviating fool, Mitch McConnell, on the fiction that the Democrats had blocked debate on the Iraq resolution. For the record, Mr. McConnell, you sycophantic hypocrite, every Democrat (except Tim Johnson, who continues his recovery) voted to have a debate. Who voted against debate? Oh, I don’t know….could it be…perhaps…SATAN, er, REPUBLICANS??
February 17th, 2007 at 5:38 pm#142: Democrat Controlled Senate Fails to Pass Meaningless Resolution.
You seem very pleased, Paul. It appears that Bush’s escalation of the war will go through. This means more sectarian violence, more billions of dollars spent on sweetheart deals for government contractors, more anti-American sentiment spread through the rest of the world, and more U.S. soldiers dead and wounded. Can you explain why you hate American soldiers so much?
February 17th, 2007 at 5:39 pmWhen they reinstate the draft, and they will have to; let’s ensure that the Bush twins and all the children of these elected officials who will not stop this illegal war are on the first plane to Iraq, or Iran or wherever this mess ends up. After all, if drafted one has to show up to do his tour of duty, otherwise that would be UNAMERICAN.
February 17th, 2007 at 5:40 pmComment by Wayne #143
DITTO!
February 17th, 2007 at 5:41 pmDemocrat Controlled Senate Fails to Pass Meaningless Resolution.
Comment by paul — February 17, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
If it was a Meaningless Resolution why did the RepukeWads fight it? You can’t have it both ways!! Unless you’re a typically gay, boy-touching Repugnican!! Then you LOVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 5:48 pmLooks like mandolin is the one that finally runs off without posting even one comment with substance, without projection, strawmen or supposition.
Were you posting under michael last night, by any chance? Your style of avoiding any direct answer and lack of any real intellegent forethought is very similar.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:03 pmHey, Wayne…
Scrolling up through this thread, it looks like I missed quite a show.
Don’t waste too much grief on mandolin…he’s only here to troll. Last night, he made the assertion that none of us could name half of the Bill of Rights without looking them up. When I pointed out that, since anyone can look them up in a matter of seconds, no one could answer his challenge without him accusing him of cheating, he accused me of not being able to name them. When I repeated that his “challenge” was by its design unmeetable, and thus amounted to nothing more than a clumsy trap, he clammed up.
Looks like he’s been up to the same tricks today. He’s not interested in honest debate, so why should we be interested in him?
As for your conjecture that mandolin is michael…it’s entirely possible. A lot of these troll seem to feel the need to post under multiple aliases…I guess they’re trying to make it look like there’s more of them than actually exist. ^_^
February 17th, 2007 at 6:27 pmDemocrat Controlled Senate…
if only that were true… however, as LIEberman is actually a REPULIC, and johnson is still recuperating from a BRAIN BLEED (bless him), there is no real DEMOCRATIC controlled senate right now…
and it would do you all well to remember that, next time you want to blast the dems for any perceived inaction…
just sayin’…
February 17th, 2007 at 6:27 pmA lot of these troll seem to feel the need to post under multiple aliases…I guess they’re trying to make it look like there’s more of them than actually exist. ^_^
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Yeah his “trap” was really lame.
After the trouncing micheal gave himself last night he will probably retire that moniker, hehe.
I probably should have ignored mandolin, but it was kind of entertaining to watch him spin, in a cat playing with a dead mouse, sort of way. ;)
February 17th, 2007 at 6:35 pmTripMaster MonkeyF#ck,
guess they’re trying to make it look like there’s more of them than actually exist
Comment by TripMaster MonkeyF#ck,
Well the vote was 56-34.
I guess there ARE more of US than YOU think huh? And Senators DO listen to their CONSTITUENTS right?
Well the vote was 56-34.
Hea hea hea.
Whatever you have to tell yourself to find your “comfort-zone” works I guess.
This vote brought me to an extremely powerful orgasm by the way.
Katy,
These spoiled brats want what they want, when they want it. They know nothing of diplomacy or temperance. Only loud hubris and rancor.
Right Wayne?
February 17th, 2007 at 6:42 pmAbout 8 GOPers did not even have the guts to vote Yea or Nay. Sen. McCain was one of them that did not even bother to show up to vote.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:43 pmAbout 8 GOPers did not even have the guts to vote Yea or Nay. Sen. McCain was one of them that did not even bother to show up to vote.
Comment by Jay Randal
They felt that going on vacation was more important than doing their job they were elected to do.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:50 pmMakes McCain look like real presidential material, huh?
All we need, to elect another Vacationer-in-Chief, lol
About 8 GOPers did not even have the guts to vote Yea or Nay. Sen. McCain was one of them that did not even bother to show up to vote.
Comment by Jay Randal
And how do you think they would have voted. I mean come on.
How high can you build your strawman?
Here, allow me to throw a match on your strawman, after thoroughly soaking you in gasoline first of course.
And as far as McCain, he is out stumping for the Presidency! He has to go around the country to fix the damage YOU types of people have doen to him, or tried to anyway.
You still do not have the traction to unseat McCain. McCain will be our next President.
Wait and see. It won`t even be a voting matter to elect him.
Bush will “appoint” him come 2008. To caryy on our proud tradition of “No More Mideastern Bullshit”
Staright talk. Enough is enough. These animals (in the mideast) WILL NOT be allowed to SUCCEED!
Got it Jay Randal?
Good.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:52 pmThis vote brought me to an extremely powerful orgasm by the way.
Comment by spongebobby crayfishpants #153
…after circle-jerking with your inbred male relatives…
…to the Bush-Gannon-Foley-Haggard White House sex tapes…
…it’s a wonder you’ve got anything left…
…you’re a BEAST…
…name jacking Bushite stalker troll…
February 17th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI expect nothing from those member of the Senate with Rs or Is behind their names, but it pisses me off to see all the Dems who voted the wrong way on this. We know who needs to be replaced next election.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:54 pmspongebobby crabbypants sez:
Um…you do know that your side was the 34, right?
Well, I guess at least 56 do…including 7 Republican senators that broke ranks to do the right thing. Guess there aren’t as many of “you” out there as you think, huh?
Projection. Your dream world is starting to crumble, and it scares the hell out of you , doesn’t it?
Thanks. That statement from you proves everything I’ve said far more eloquently than I ever could. Congrats.
Perfect description of the neocon thugs. No wonder 7 Repub senators broke ranks.
One more thing: we might take you a bit more seriously if you could pick an alias and stick to it. Kthx.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:57 pmspongebobby lol > only way McCain could become president is by massive vote fraud. He is a white-haired far-right warmonger-nut.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:57 pmComment by big papa —
Come get some. Do sumthin bout it toughguy.
As I thought, a chickenshit at heart…
BOO!
Ha.
The sky is falling, The sky is falling!
“big papa looks up and get an eyeful of pigeon shit.
How quaint.
Most here have egg in their face or a mouthful of crow.
But big papa’s claim to fame?
Pigeon shit right in the eye.
Bwahahahahah!!
Die you DemoCommunists Sons-a-Bitches, Die!!
Well, back to my foxhole!!
Bwahahahaha!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 6:59 pmAnd how do you think they would have voted. I mean come on.
How high can you build your strawman? Comment by spongebobby crayfishpants ,aka rachel
Jay did not create a strawman, his statement was that 8 did not vote. He did not claim anything to do with your post, you are projecting in a very reaching way, then creating your own strawman argument.
Jay 1
rachel 0
Try again.
February 17th, 2007 at 7:00 pmZooey > all the Dems voted Yea, except Traitor Joe Lieberman who is really a Republican, and one Dem Senator cannot vote because he is in the hospital.
February 17th, 2007 at 7:01 pmThis vote brought me to an extremely powerful orgasm by the way.
Comment by spongebobby crayfishpants #153
guess who? … prepare yourselves… to ignore and report…
February 17th, 2007 at 7:01 pmUm…you do know that your side was the 34, right?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — February 17, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
um… er… choke…
that was rather funny…
February 17th, 2007 at 7:03 pmBut big papa’s claim to fame?
Pigeon shit right in the eye.
Comment by spongebobby crayfishpants #161</