Snow: Politicians Warning Of Iran War ‘May Be Trying To Protect Iran’
Snow: Politicians Warning Of Iran War ‘May Be Trying To Protect Iran’
Today on CNN, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow claimed that members of Congress who have warned about the possibility of a military strike against Iran may be “trying to protect Iran.” Watch it:
Numerous military and regional experts agree that there is no military solution for Iran. They say it would be “disastrous for the United States,” “empower reactionaries [in Iran] and validate their pro-nuclear argument,” and “usher in chaos and instability.” None of them are trying to “protect Iran.” Tony Snow’s hysterical rhetoric is false.
Transcript:
BLITZER: Is that true? Are you getting ready for war with Iran?
SNOW: No. And furthermore, I — Wolf, I am at a total loss to find any place where this administration has been trying to, quote, “create a run-up with a war on Iran.” It is interesting to me that it seems that some politicians maybe are trying to protect Iran.
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No Tony Snow, the White House man toy, they are trying to stop another war that could lead to global WWIII and the end of the world. Tony take your meds please.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:42 pmPure desperation… That’s all they have left.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:47 pmTony McSnowjob, the White House spokesliar, at it again. What a dishonest little piece of work.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:51 pmSee how the Bush Regime spins crap: They claim that those who want to prevent wars are nutty? WARmongering is crazy!
February 18th, 2007 at 1:54 pmWhy, when he disposes of the WH podium do we find our snow flake friend on all the TV channels? Is it to reinforce a crease in our brains…Bush good, Iran bad., or is that too complicated? Is it just an old fashioned smear campaign?
February 18th, 2007 at 1:55 pmVoice critisism and you are aiding the “enemy”, the said enemy naturally is interchangeable with any name of our numerous enemies, whichever one Cheney is planning to overthrow or invade at that time. Go get’um Rover.
They have never read Frost, they cannot see themselves as others see them.
Protect? Why hell no, he wants to KILL them.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:55 pmMaybe someone should try to protect Iran? After all, they are the country that’s under threat here. It’s actually sad that the only reason our so-called opposition can come up with to oppose an unprovoked attack on a foreign nation is that it’s not going to succeed.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:58 pmTony Snow needs to try it for few days in Iraq with rifle and helmet…may be his words will be different after such an experience.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:58 pmLike Doug Feith said, “Words matter.” So I’m left wondering why Snow would employ the phrase “protect Iran.” From exactly what would detractors of Shrub’s policies be protecting Iran? Perhaps an attack preconceived over a year ago by the aggressor Bush regime?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:05 pmtarazan > Tony Snow has to have nice showers and his hair shampooed daily and cut and blow-dried too. He cannot go to that nasty dirty Iraq and be unkempt with a rifle and grease on his face.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:06 pmIf Iran is actually supplying arms and weapons to Iraq, could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that Iran is trying to help Iraq get rid of a foreign invader who is illegally occupying their country, which just happens to be the less than benevolent presence of the United States? The U.S. needs to get out of Iraq before it manages to incite more violence in the region of the Middle East.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:06 pmAmerica should realize theres no diplomatic solution to the crisis EITHER. I say let the bombs fall. Whats the worst that can happen?
O.K.O.K. …. Even if we do it your way and TRY the diplomatic solution, Israel will bomb them. THAT is a given, and we cant talk them out of it.
Now , my question to all of you amateur strategists is:
What does the United States do when Israel bombs Iran?
Do we help, and join the war? Or do we watch?
What should we do?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:07 pmYes. For once Mr. Snow is right. Some of us are trying to protect Iran from another unprovoked, illegal war of aggression. That is, some of us don’t believe - unless it is proven otherwise - that Iran is an enemy of or threat to the US.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:09 pm#7 - christian h.
I agree. Iran needs protection — from us.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:09 pm“It Seems That Some Politicians Maybe Are Trying To Protect Iran”
And this coming from an administration that is protecting their good buddies in Saudi Arabia.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:11 pmTony — These patriots are trying to protect the United States of America and her interests from the cabal of incompetent fruit loops who pay your salary.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:14 pmwhy sure… cause protecting iran will protect the world… for a while…
maybe…
but this sounds like that rovian speech declaring that dems wanted to talk and give therapy to the terrists… “aid and comfort”, here we go…
February 18th, 2007 at 2:15 pm“some politicians maybe are trying to protect Iran”
That comment desrves a good kick in the nuts. Not the kind that leaves you clutching and gasping, but the kind that lifts you off the floor, and causes you to pass out for hours.
If anyone owes allegiance to Iran it would be the Republicans, lest we forget the Reagan-hostage payoff.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:15 pmI think these Republican guys don’t realize that they are ALIENATING MILLIONS OF VOTERS by ACCUSING THEM OF TREASON.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:20 pmAlex,
amateur historian, we do the same thing that we did the last time they bombed their reactors… nothing.
Or are you not old enough to remember, or do the talking points limit your comprhension of possibilities?
Iran is kicking us while we’re down just as we kicked them while they were down during the Iran-Iraq war and bombing them isn’t going to do any good. When we do end up bogged down in Iran Russia will kick us just as we did them when they were at war ih Afghanistan.
We are in their back yards being kicked courtesy of a myopic war-mongering foreign policy brought to us by an immoral gang of profiteering thugs. Don’t buy the supposed “reasoning”.
We will get our asses further kicked if we attack Iran, mark my words.
By the way are the same geniuses planning this debackle that planned the last, you know Cheney and company who told us we’d be done there in six months. Fucking war mongers and idiotic cool-aid drinkers following lock step. Here’s an idea grab a gun and enlist tough guy.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:21 pmO.K.O.K. …. Even if we do it your way and TRY the diplomatic solution, Israel will bomb them. THAT is a given, and we cant talk them out of it.
That should be won’t, not can’t. The US supplies Israel with huge amounts of cash and weapons - they have all the leverage they need, but won’t ever use it.
If Israel bombs Iran, it is with US weaponry, and US complicity.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWhat does the United States do when Israel bombs Iran?
Do we help, and join the war? Or do we watch?
What should we do?
Comment by Alex — February 18, 2007 @
If Israel bombs Iran, on what pretext will they do so? Considering the recent “war” between Israel and Lebanon, and the reprecussions of that (only strengthened Hezobollah and weakened the Lebanese government), I would consider it an enormous HUGE mistake for Israel to attack Iran. As for the U.S. response….we should do NOTHING to join in Israel’s fight. Perhaps people should be reminded, that despite the constant rhetoric about Israel being our ally, we have NO defense treaty (mutual or otherwise) with them. And by the way, where have THEY been in either the Afghanistan or Iraq wars…where are their troops, their financial aid?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSure Tony. The Democrats all have scimitars hidden in our suits, to chop our heads off and turn us into a islamic republic too, right Tony…..
Somebody shut that lying c*nt up.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:30 pmok TP … bring it back… a good informative comment, formerly #20, was just deleted… why?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:34 pmThis has absolutely NOTHING to do with ‘protecting’ Iran, but EVERYTHING to keep us out of another stupid war. If the Bushies want a war with Iran, they should jump on Air Force 1 and Air Force 2 and jump out of the plane over Tehran(without ‘chutes).
February 18th, 2007 at 2:35 pmor they ‘may be trying to protect’ america
February 18th, 2007 at 2:38 pmI think those of you seeking to understand Bush’s ‘plan’ in Iraq are overestimating our current regime’s ability to plan intelligently for anything beyond enriching Uncle Dick’s Halliburton and his other Big Oil cronies. He’s accomplished that part, and is now frantically looking for a way to stave off complete disaster in Iraq until his term is up in 2008. I am among millions of Americans who cringe at the horrors his administration has visited upon us, the American troops, and the innocent citizens of Iraq. He has increased the terrorist threat to our nation exponentially - al Qaida, unknown in Iraq prior to the US invasion, is now thriving there.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:39 pmBush’s plan from the beginning was to bring chaos and destruction to the people of the Middle East for the profit of American business, so yes; I think his plan has been very successful. The plan was to establish US military bases in Iraq so future Republicans can use them to even further interfere in Middle East politics and have an easier time eliminating enemies of the US and repressing democracy in places where we don’t like the outcome of elections. Bush has pumped billions into the pockets of his big business puppet masters, stolen billions of dollars in resources from the Iraqi people, enacted revenge against Saddam for trying to kill his daddy back in the early 90’s. We all know Bush couldnt care less about true democracy or freedom. Bushs plan was based on greed and revenge, and it has worked; we are all paying the price for his malice while he and the criminals in his government live in luxury.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:40 pmThe Democratic loss in the US Senate was something I said would fail. People I know here said it would pass and the new surge would end quickly. I honestly think it was just a sham to ease tensions in the US public. I think I can safely say that Bush knew this would happen too. He is bound and determined to master you all in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Lebanon. He does it in the name of the American form of democracy where people are free in name only and where poverty is rampant and health care budgets are reduced to help pay for these sojourns into the Middle East. He hopes he can force peace through his own violence. Instead, he should make life more tolerable for all with aid to rebuild, food, jobs and a reason to live instead of committing suicide as martyrs in the name of Islam.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:43 pmWhat if we refused to listen to anything “Baghdad Bob Tony Snow” says? Maybe if we ignored him he would go away? I know, wishful thinking. At least he’s an experienced liar, not like poor Scott McClellan who stumbled his way through the lies the administration put in his mouth.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:45 pmPosts # 12 and # 20.
I do not think Israel will bomb Iran. Not that there aren’t people there who are pressing to do that. I don’t think either, that the US is going to bomb Iran (just now - I don’t know about next year).
It is not a sudden craving for peace by Israel, it is the instinct for survival. As explosive as the middle east is right now (courtesy of Mr Bush) an attack would amount to a suicide bombing. The whole neighbourhood would explode into Israel’s face. They know it, at least most of them do.
About the US. Well, certainly politicians (and liberal bloggers ;)) are protecting Iran by pointing out the seriousness of the situation, and rightly so. Iran needs protection from an unwarranted attack. I am sure, that within the WH there is a strong will for an attack, but they don’t have the support right now. This would amount to political suicide for the Republicans. Weren’t it for the danger of losing even more seats in Senate and Congress, they’d do it.
That’s why I’m not sure about next year. Whatever the results of next year’s elections will be, after November Mr Bush will only have his legacy to consider. And who is to keep him from “solving the Iran problem” before a new president takes office, as his crooked understanding of legacy suggests. We’ve heard time and again that he doesn’t intend to leave Iran to be handled by his successor, democratic or republican.
There is only one solution - impeachment.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:47 pmI think the best answer to this kind of garbage is to demand Tony name exactly which politicians are “trying to protect Iran”. Then hammer on him until he admits, like Frank Gaffney did, that he was just making it up and spewing empty rhetoric.
Gaffney retreated from his “traitors should be hanged” nonsense, and Tony Snow would be just as cowardly.
“Which politicians are protecting Iran?”
“Well, I’m not talking specifically…”
“Yes you are. You just said some are. Name them.”
“That’s unfair…”
“So you can’t name any. So what you just said is false. Correct?”
Etc…
Make these guys back up what they say and they fold like house of cards.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:48 pmGo ahead an attack Iran… China and Russia will control all the real energy resources in the middle east. Saudia Arabia? The Shia Crescent will overthrow that government in a heartbeat. Every friendly allied nation to the US in the region will be targeted to be overthrown. The WH will probably say ” we stopped them from getting a nuke….” BS Kim Jung IL sits on about 400KG of weapons grade plutonium. I’m pretty sure he’ll make tons of money clandestinely selling some to anyone who has the cash to spend. These idiots and their “We dont negotiate….we dominate” BS won’t work anymore. The Oil contracts being signed in Iraq will be worthless once the Shia inevitably nationalize the Energy fields. So what has the US gained?
But I say go ahead turn the entire middle east against us. China will not lift a finger to help the US unless it is in China’s strategic interest to do so. So far Bush and his idiotic policies have helped China become the regions next greatest super power. Amazing isn’t it. China never spent a red cent; didn’t fire a single bullet and shed not one drop of its citizen’s blood in the middle east yet their government is looked upon more favorably then ours… King Bush really made america’s image shine … didn’t he?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:52 pmAnything to make a buck, eh Tony? Whore.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:56 pmThen why did we send yet another air craft carrier into the Persian Gulf Tony?
“Vice President Dick Cheney said the deployment this month of a second aircraft carrier task force to the Persian Gulf delivered a “strong signal” of the United States’ commitment to confront Iran’s growing influence in the region.”
http://www.boston.com/ news/ world/ articles/ 2007/ 01/ 29/ cheney_defends_2d_craft_in_gulf/
strong ’signals’ my ass. Is it too early to place a bet in Vegas as to when we will lob the first bombs at Iran?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:57 pmHe’s at a loss to find a place where the administration is trying to create a runup to war? Isn’t there a 3rd carrier group now headed to the Persian Gulf?
February 18th, 2007 at 2:57 pmTony Snow’s hysterical rhetoric is false.
Isn’t this a requirement for the role of White House press secretary? Bushco is an operation that runs on lies, deceptions, misinformation, and apparent impunity from any sort of consequences for their actions. Snow must lie to keep his job. And he has gotten progressively more deceiptful (and thus more insane) over the last few months.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:58 pmThose politicians are trying to protect the United States from an even more disastrous failure then those which George Bush has already perpetrated in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And now for amateur strategist hour with “Let the bombs fall, Alex”, who says “there is no political solution to this crisis.” PURE GENIUS!
Who told you that crap sonny boy? The Iranians have been trying to negotiate with the US for YEARS and have been ignored by the Bush administration. Bush has always wanted war with Iran and that’s why there is a political crisis to begin with.
So you say “Israel is going to bomb Iran; that’s a given.” even if we try diplomacy and “we can’t talk them out of it.”
Really! That’s a given? There going to bomb anyway so we might as well join in. What a great strategy for a war. Negotiation may fail so don’t try.
Why can’t the US talk Israel out of bombing Iran? I’ll tell you why, Israel has its own bunch of PNAC fanatics and their all in this together. Israel would never bomb anyone without support from the US. The US must support them because they did a great job against Hezbollah right?
Why are you so afraid of negotiation?
Let’s say Israel bombs Iran. That would be a terrible mistake on their part. Why should the US defend Israel’s mistake or become an even greater part of it.
Who runs the United States, Washington or Israel?
AND NOW A REAL GEM FROM “LET THE BOMBS FALL ALEX”>
“I say let the bombs fall. What’s the worst that can happen?â€
That’s a good one. I bet Bush says that a lot too.
The answer is WWIII Alex amateur strategist, Nuclear Armageddon is the worst that can happen. Now go back to your X-box kid.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:03 pmDesperate, they must be very, very desperate, is all I can say.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:08 pmThat was a slip by Snow. Why would anyone need to protect Iran, unless the administration was planning to attack them? They’ve been denying this for months - but here’s the proof. If there’s no attack plan, there’s no protection. If Snow says they’re being protected, then he intends to attack them…
Snow, thanks for proving what a fool Seixon was - not that he needed your help!!!!
February 18th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“Not Good News†in Iran
By: Nicole Belle @ 9:27 AM - PST
Col. Sam Gardiner at The Left Coaster:
IED’s Inside Iran - If you have not been reading foreign press, you might have missed two explosions this past week in Iran. One of them killed 11 and injured 31 members of the Revolutionary Guard, and the other was near a school.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:15 pm[…]
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2007/ 02/ 18/ not-good-news-in-iran/
Maybe you should see this (a day before you’re supposed to).
Is War With Iran (Almost), Imminent?
February 18th, 2007 at 3:27 pmThis man has no brain.
He is purely a mouthpiece.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:41 pmYeah, but you forgot about BIG OIL…
February 18th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI love the smell of GOP desperation….
The Dems will likely pick up another 35 House seats and 8-10 Senate seats in 2008 which means the decimation of the neocon GOP 4th Reich.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:49 pmTony Snow is the OFFICIAL VOICE OF THE WHITE HOUSE. As far as I am concerned what he says is what Dubya is saying and thinking.
If Bush does not have these opinions then he should speak up and designate a spokeman who does present his “true position’.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:56 pmIf there is an election.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:56 pmToo silly… start over.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:57 pmwow that’s crazy talk and these are our leaders
February 18th, 2007 at 4:17 pmJust like with his earlier comment about “nothing went wrong in Iraq”, Tony Snowjob is just as full of crap saying those who warn of war with Iran are trying to protect Iran! These people must think they are broadcasting on Faux Snooze when they spew out this trash! Get real bozo.
February 18th, 2007 at 4:37 pmThe message is clear and can be summed up in two words — IRAQ REDUX. Squealer’s words indicate clearly that the Bush administration is just as obsessed with the idea of attacking Iran as it was with the idea of attacking Iraq back in 2002 and just as stone-deaf to any arguments against it no matter how strong.
Good grief…these people are insane. That’s the only possible explanation — and that is, after all, the definition of doing exactly the same thing and expecting different results.
February 18th, 2007 at 5:00 pmLook, sometimes “INSANE” is just what you need .
Russia will be stunned and impressed by our audacity.
China will protest but secretly they will admire us.
Destruction can be creative. Bush will finally get the ball rolling and totally remake the entire mideast in the American image. Iran is the key step in this process.
As for the locals, too bad. The U.S.A. owns the mideast now.
And please, don’t complain about dead people this or damaged status in the world community…. bombin Iran isnt about “WAR”, its about the peace that will result from it.
American made peace.
February 18th, 2007 at 5:09 pmIran should be left alone. They are a peace loving Progressive regime!
February 18th, 2007 at 5:20 pmThat creepy Snow sure does have a smooth delivery when he’s calling Congressman traitors.
February 18th, 2007 at 5:22 pmBut what more do you expect from a Fox News bombthrower?
Alex says,
“American made peace”
Because, you know, that worked SO WELL in Iraq…
February 18th, 2007 at 5:24 pmWhat does the United States do when Israel bombs Iran?
Do we help, and join the war? Or do we watch?
What should we do?
Comment by Alex #12
Unfortunately (for the world) you may be right Alex…
…Israel will probably be the U.S. proxy in instigating a war with Iran…
…If Bushiva and L’il Dick have shown nothing else they’ve shown their penchants for being degenerate gamblers with OTHER people’s lives (and treasure)…
…Israel will probably bomb the Natanz facilities, then the U.S. will provide some air assistance…
…but what both the criminal zionists and their co-conspirators in the White House are hoping is that the Russians and Chinese will accept this new aggression, and abandonment of international law…
…I’d be willing to bet they won’t…
…the Russians and Chinese will seize this opportunity to escalate their support for Iran’s covert ops against the U.S. military in Iraq…
…and al Qaeda’s attacks against oil interests in Saudi Arabia (as well as providing intelligence and logistical support for terrorism against U.S. corporate and military assets across the globe)…
…naked aggression will cause strange alliances btwn the Iranians, Russians, Chinese and radical al Qaeda and other Islamist elements…
…and Israeli forces will come under attack from Hezbollah, Hamas, and and various other Islamic factions from Libya, Algeria, and Pakistan (to name a few countries)…
…the British, French and Germans (out of disgust for the Bushites and Olmert’s warmongering regimes) will withdraw even limited support for the U.S…
…in effect the Russians, Chinese and radical (and mainstream Islamic factions) will step up operations against the U.S. and Israel in an attempt to bleed the U.S. and Israelis…
…and I haven’t even begun to talk about the financial consequences such a move (attacking Iran) would provoke- collapsing the Bush dollar…
…there are powerful financial interests in Iran held by the EU, Russia and China…
…and the U.S. (criminal Bushite regime/Israel) already have a HUGE image problem…
…attacking Iran would be a lose-lose situation all the way around…
…but COULD spell the ruin (economically) of the U.S. which has a huge monetary exposure in Asia…
February 18th, 2007 at 5:27 pm“Destruction can be creative. Bush will finally get the ball rolling and totally remake the entire mideast in the American image. Iran is the key step in this process.
As for the locals, too bad. The U.S.A. owns the mideast now.”
Do all republicans think like this??
February 18th, 2007 at 5:28 pmThat’s why us on the Left must pull for Iran. They are our friends and they need our support
February 18th, 2007 at 5:38 pmThat’s why us on the Left must pull for Iran. They are our friends and they need our support
Comment by The Penguin —
No, thats why us on the radical right, such as Shell, need to make deals for their gas and oil you stupid Vince P.enguin. There economy is already suffering and they actually have to import gas because they aint got the money to get the oil infrastructure going again.
Go find an extremely cold and pointy rock to sit on.
February 18th, 2007 at 5:49 pmLet’s see if this passes the TP’s scrub board…
Alex…
…Israel may be “compelled” to engage in a strategic bombing of the Natanz facility…
…the U.S. will probably lend some naval and air support to the operation…
…the British, French, Germans, Russians and Chinese will see this as another breach of international law…
…there will be consequences (economic and military sanctions) against the U.S…
…which we the people will not hear about until AFTER Bushiva and L’il Dick ride off into the sunset on their…
…”golden parachutes”…
How’s that TP? Okay?
February 18th, 2007 at 6:01 pmLatest I have: next time you say Iran, also say Syria.
Syria and Iran vow unity against US.
February 18th, 2007 at 6:27 pmI root for Iran. they have one of the most Progressive regimes on the Planet!
February 18th, 2007 at 6:34 pmI’m Pro-Iran! I support their regime and want to support them!
February 18th, 2007 at 6:47 pmSee Penguin, we neo-cons, and you aren’t one, don’t care about you or your wacky friends, left or right.
Your just a useful idiot that runs around the internet, a chicken little Penguin, wobbling along,frozen rock in it’s arse, regurgitating fishy smelling ’sky is falling’ bile. Kinda like our trained manwalruspig.
That’s why us on the Left must pull for Iran. They are our friends and they need our support
Comment by The Penguin —
No, they are the friends of big oil you wobbly warbler.
February 18th, 2007 at 6:54 pmYou really are a single minded fool.
How do you propose to pay for this war?
More loans from communist China?
You think Exxon will loan the government money for war?
righhtttt.
Apparently Tony Snow wants to see if an even greater blunder can be made in Iran than the one made in Iraq.
February 18th, 2007 at 6:55 pmneo-con ,
February 18th, 2007 at 6:58 pmI’m against any attack on Iran. they are a peace loving bunch. Their Human rights record puts us to shame. I admire Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, he says the truth. I want Israel wiped out! They are the cause of all the problems!
Tony Snow is immoral and dishonest. Period
February 18th, 2007 at 6:59 pmSaw Katrina Vandenhuevel on ABC’s This Week w/ Stephanopolous…
…what a woman…
…she took control and left that old al Crackkker George Will totally flummoxed (and pissed)…
…she told it like it was…
…how all the Repulsivescum TRAITORS (my words) in the Senate…
…were more interested in “saving their reputations, political hides and legacies than protecting the troops”…
…Will, Zakaria and Stephanopolous all tried to talk over her but she kept on telling it like it is…
…I’m definitely going to get myself a subscription to The Nation…
…We (Liberal Progressives) ALL need to be mindful of HOW and WHERE we spend our dollars…
…run these murderous, thieving, right wing, racist, fascist, misogynist, homophobic, inbred TRAITOROUS Bushite scum out of business…
…before we hunt ‘em down using the Patriot Act…
February 18th, 2007 at 7:01 pmThe irony is that if we do “protect Iran” we will also be protecting ourselves. A war with Iran will significantly worsen the world situation and will only cause the deaths of many more people, including many Americans. It will also increase the hatred in the world and will also increase the likelihood of additional terrorist attacks. War is not the answer. It never has been.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:04 pmThe Penguin #64
unlike my well-reasoned post (in response to Alex- formerly #13 now #12) that was scrubbed…
…is clearly an anti-semitic diatribe…
…why haven’t the Thought Police “cleansed” it?
February 18th, 2007 at 7:14 pmIf we attack Iran, do to the ‘logic’ being thrown about by this administration and their cronies, then we must also, at the very least, attack Syria and Saudi Arabia. Pakistan is also not far off from one of those dangerous countries harboring terrorists that must be attacked.
Then there is the fact that insurgents and terrorists are likely being supplied by Russia and China, so naturally we’ll have to attack those countries. And I’m sure arms countries in France, Germany and Britain are also supplying our enemies, so we’ll have to take them out also.
Then it comes to our own companies which are supplying our enemies with the arms to fight us, so that means, I guess, we will have to declare war on ourselves and kill ourselves in a final orgiastic display of self destruction.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:18 pmLong Live Iran! we Progressives must not allow that beacon of light for the world be attacked!
February 18th, 2007 at 7:19 pmUnfu*kingbelieveable. Will it never end.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:33 pmneo-con ,
I’m against any attack on Iran. they are a peace loving bunch. Their Human rights record puts us to shame. I admire Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, he says the truth. I want Israel wiped out! They are the cause of all the problems!
Comment by The Penguin
Your not fooling anyone with your reverse psychological spin. No one here calls Iran their ‘friends’ They are looking for realistic solutions to a difficult problem not the age old barbarian way of animals.
Your a human, start acting like one damnit.
BTW Soros is Jewish, do you see the people here wanting to destroy Israel? No. That is an evangelical ideology. The people here want the world to stop warring, to bring a peaceful world order but not an insane Orwellian one that you seem to prefer (endless war and lies)
You can’t see past the color of your skin and the brand of your religion and anything that doesn’t fit into your one-dimensional view.
You ‘think’ you have wisdom yet sound like a barbarian.
Really and truly, no one reads your pathetic blog, nor even comments on it, you can’t even attract like minded visionless bloggers as yourself.
We have heard your insane rants time and time again. You have changed no ones minds with your ideas, or your hate. Nor have you kept people from blogging. It’s time for you to move on, you have nothing to offer but hate, something that this world already has far too much of.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:38 pmAnd yet another oracular divination from the “mouth” of Whitehouse Spokeshole Tony Snow. At least I think that statement came from his mouth. On a more serious note, what can we do about this as the citizens of this country? The entire Bush Administration has gone psychotic. Ever see that film 2 yrs ago about Hitler’s last days in the bunker? Somehow does it look familiar everytime you see someone from the Admin talking?
This is getting scarier by the day. These freakin’ monsters will not be satisfied until the entire world is in flames, and then of course, Halliburton will get the no-bid contract to put out the fire. WW lll coming to a continent near you! Summer of ‘07!!!
February 18th, 2007 at 7:40 pmActually I have a fetish about those middle east guys, I want to lift up their robes and engulf those brown throbbing shafts!!
February 18th, 2007 at 7:40 pmOh I am into camel beastiality as well, I just cant help staring at those huge wankers and those lovelyyyyyy camel huevos as they dangle back and forth over the hot sand!!
Oh Mr Bush, please send me, Vince P. and my crossdressing double, Rachel to the big beach so we can play with those hairy ‘volleyballs’
February 18th, 2007 at 7:43 pmtee hee tee hee tee hee!
Bush will finally get the ball rolling and totally remake the entire mideast in the American image. Iran is the key step in this process. As for the locals, too bad. The U.S.A. owns the mideast now. And please, don’t complain about dead people… — Alex
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“Compassionate conservatism” at its finest — proof positive that there’s no such thing.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:47 pmWhat the hell is with this Penguin troll on here? Is it another rachel screen name? And why is it fixated on gayish sexual behavior?
February 18th, 2007 at 8:02 pmYa shure, we could “protect” them just like we did the Iraqis.
February 18th, 2007 at 8:05 pmNot.
Might tony be a traitor himself? What kind of person would spew this type of shit to the American public?
February 18th, 2007 at 8:21 pmThe FCC is complacent in their duty to protect the people that pay them. Congress should awaken before their message is totally deluded.
You think Exxon will loan the government money for war?
Comment by neo-con — February 18, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
LOAN??!!! …hell, exxon should be PAYING for this “war” - with their record obnoxious profits AND their employees… it only makes sense as this is all about OIL and the control of OIL profits…
February 18th, 2007 at 8:21 pmthe US military has no business being there.
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He looks like a slack-jawed devil in that picture - and on tv too.
February 18th, 2007 at 8:32 pmStop the agression against Iran. Levae Ahmadinejad alone!
February 18th, 2007 at 8:38 pmLOAN??!!! …hell, exxon should be PAYING for this “war†- with their record obnoxious profits AND their employees… it only makes sense as this is all about OIL and the control of OIL profits…
the US military has no business being there.
Katy,
Guess I will break the bad news to you. The winner of the Daytona 500 for this year was Kevin Harvick with SHELL as it’s primary sponsor.
Shell will open up the money coffers once again and watch them get even fuller now.
The really shitty part of the whole race? The US ARMY car finished 2nd and was leading like 50 ft from the finishline when the Shell car passed it by about 3 feet.
It won by 3 feet. That really sucks considering this war is ABOUT OIL. It is so ironic that it finished that way. The OIL CAR BEAT OUT THE ARMY car.
My next thought would be, what does this do for the morale of the troops who watched the 500, and there were many, believe me, I wonder what this does to the psyche of the soldier who sees the BigOil car beat out the Army car.
I will bet Bush was watching and cheering on Shell over the Army car.
What a louse he is.
Go figure. Only in America.
February 18th, 2007 at 8:38 pm#82 Apple
I’m guessing the same holds true in person.
February 18th, 2007 at 8:39 pmKaty,
Having that much brand recognition in winning the Daytona 500 is worth Billions to Shell in residuals and NASCAR bonuses. The winner of that single race alone got like 2.5 million dollars. It is bigger than the Superbowl.
It sucks. BigOil beat Army again.
February 18th, 2007 at 8:42 pmthat’s some irony all right… maybe those troops will catch that irony also…
shell, exxon, bp, etc. … they should be paying for the “privilege” of securing the iraqi oil rights and profits… as in any normal “business” deal…
February 18th, 2007 at 8:56 pmPenguin: Ted Haggard, is that you?
February 18th, 2007 at 9:00 pmEvery time I read or hear a quote from Tony Snow, a little piece of me dies.
Next he will say, “The Democrats hate puppies, babies, and old people.”
February 18th, 2007 at 9:03 pmSnow::Goebbels!
February 18th, 2007 at 9:08 pmThe sheer audacity of Snow/Bushco… The strawman falacy of “You’re either; with us or you’re against us…” doesn’t fly anymore!!! The neocon doublespeak shows no apparent limits to their breathtaking ineptitude/arrogance!!!
War with Iran by April? Interesting info in this clip:
February 18th, 2007 at 9:22 pmhttp://takingaimradio.com/m3u/takingaim070213.m3u
Every time a Republican questions the patriotism of a fellow American, they weaken the nation, and they make us look weak in the eyes of the terrorists.
But that’s the Republicans for you — always putting party before country.
February 18th, 2007 at 10:17 pmjacoby@globe.com
…is the email address of the Boston Globe editorialist…
…that katy’s link to crooksandliars showcases…
…as yet another Bushite shill and unAmerican TRAITOR…
…he deserves to hear what you think about his assertion that by voicing your opposition to this illegal occupation…
…you can’t possibly support the troops…
…email this pig and let him know how you feel…
…we must NOT allow them (inbred Bushites) to get away with their lies…
February 18th, 2007 at 10:27 pmthanks again for an interesting link katy…
February 18th, 2007 at 10:32 pmLeave Iran alone! They are our friends!
February 18th, 2007 at 10:39 pmyou’re so welcome, big papa…
February 18th, 2007 at 10:52 pmC&L is another favorite site… more diverse it seems…
It will get worse, PNAC/AEI crowd want war with Iran: http://takingaimradio.com/m3u/takingaim070213.m3u
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/361379.html
Brzezinski dropped a bomb shell recently saying that a false flag operation might occur inside USA to justify the bombing and invasion of Iran. Ron Paul has also warned about a new gulf of Tonkin indicent to justify war.
All part of “creating our own reality”. The neocons need to be stopped. They do not seek to protect USA, they seek to justify imperialism.
February 18th, 2007 at 11:39 pmProtect Iran from what exactly, Mr. Snow?
I thought there were no plans to strike Iran. What could those politicians possibly be protecting Iran from, if plans for an attack do not exist?
Ah, those damn Freudian slips…
February 19th, 2007 at 1:36 amProtect Iran?? From what?? From whom??
Is Iran in danger?? Is there an enemy that may attack Iran?? Does Iran need to prepare itself for an attack??
Maybe just maybe Iran needs protection?? Do you think??
Really, Mr. Snow, do you think??
February 19th, 2007 at 5:40 amGREAT NEWS GREAT NEWS
February 19, 2007
Congress’ Liability in a
Nuclear Strike on Iran
No more European vacations for our legislators?
Madrid, Brussels, London, Berlin, Paris, Rome, and Vienna may well be off-limits to U.S. members of Congress soon. Just as well: they will still be able to enjoy pleasant summer breaks in Crawford, Texas, or Jackson Hole, Wyo., in the best of companies [1], [2]. That’s certainly preferable to ending up in a European jail for a very long time.
Every one of the 535 members of the 110th Congress is liable to face criminal indictment from the International Criminal Court in de Hague if the U.S. uses nuclear weapons in the impending conflict with Iran.
Following an indictment, every country that is a State Party to the International Criminal Court (ICC) will be required to take into custody any members of Congress…………………………Great News
February 19th, 2007 at 6:19 am…
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Wow. What a piece of ___.
It’s not like this administration LIED before, is it?
I mean lets look at why we’re in IRAQ:
1. 9/11 (ignoring Douglas Feif’s Propoganda)
2. WMDS (So Passe!)
3. Al Queada
4. Freedom and Liberty!
5. Fight them there instaed of fighting them here (Not that this Admin is stopping anything here…)
And, according to them, Now it’s NOT Al Queada, It’s IRAN killing people there!
There’s been so many BS reasons this Admin has given that I’m sure I missed some…
Who will they blame Tomorrow??
February 19th, 2007 at 9:17 amWho was there to warn US about Bush?
February 19th, 2007 at 10:33 amsome real sorry dumbshits subbing for the regular trolls these days.
is this what they make the interns at PR firms retained by the republican’ts do all day??? or are these pages serving republican’t members of congress?
in any event, i don’t think even my local dittoheads are as bullgoose loony as these sickies
focus everyone, don’t feed’em, and don’t allow the threadjacking.
(they all remind me of Joe Flaherty’s character in Happy Gilmore - the hired loudmouth that actually thinks the arrogant “superstar” who hired him is now going to be his “friend”)
February 19th, 2007 at 12:09 pmIt accepts Iran as its enemy without evidence or it gets the hose again…
February 19th, 2007 at 12:16 pmOne has to wonder how Tony McSnowjob sleeps at night. He can’t possibly believe all the things he says. If he does, he’s a total moron.
I wonder if any of these people think about all the damage they are inflicting on this country. One has to wonder if they really care. I know that they are all after the profit that comes from this war but, if they start WWIII, I believe that there will end up in being so much damage caused there won’t be anyone left to buy their products and make them rich.
God I wish we had a “peace party” we could get behind. That’s why I am so behind Obama, he is the only one who speaks for peace and probably the only one out there who could possibly take us into a peaceful future. Hillary surely won’t!
February 19th, 2007 at 12:20 pmAll of humanity is faced with extinction at this point. The Earth cannot support any more people without taking resources from future generations. If we cannot bring the global population down by controlling our reproduction then the governments will resort to more drastic measures. Iraq is a slow bleed or meat grinder in the desert that will remain perpetually. The government will put on a show but when it comes down to survival it is always better to kill and live then to be blown up and have future generations (should they survive at all) be made sterile by depleted uranium.
February 19th, 2007 at 12:26 pmEven if we manage to kill all the desert dwellers the Chinese know the same thing about resources. Soon the blackouts will arrive and people will not care who we have to kill to control what is left of the world’s oil supply. In the end wars are waged for only two reasons. 1) Resource control 2) Population reduction. Anything else you bring up can be used as an excuse but the bottom line is that it is US THE US) VS THEM. Kill or be killed is the expression. Yes this is HARSH but if we fail to depopulate, humanity as a whole will suffer worse and worse than completely DIE OFF!
Think about it, we are in the desert and all of our reasons for being there have evaporated. Now we are being told new reasons to fight the good fight. We are being told that expansion is our best defense. We are in the desert at this point in time because??? Because the US Military is now in charge and we get to watch the politicians DEBATE and be diplomatic. The Military knows the score and we need to be kept in the dark as much as possible by as many lies as it takes or mass pandemonium will result before all of the systems are in place.
Search your soul and you will know that I’m right about this. If you want your house, family, food, power, transportation, heat, refrigerator and computer you will have to FIGHT TO KEEP IT. The US imports a majority of just about everything that it consumes especially ENERGY. Everything in every place is getting HARSH. Africa is seeing death on a mammoth scale and in re4ality there is nothing that can be done. There is a growing shortage of food, water and the energy necessary to get it to you.
Why else would we be in the desert at all? Why start a war now? Why stay even though Saddam is DEAD? “CONTROL OF RESOURCES & POPULATION CONTROL†Not enough stuff and too many people demanding the STUFF. Perhaps we can have jobs like grinding up bodies so that they can be turned into energy and maybe if you’re hungry you can eat a real HAND BURGER?
We need someone to lead us properly and solve the issues that really matter to us. If President Bush or any other president really wants to protect our country from future terrorists, he or she should combat global poverty which is at the root of the problem. We don’t need to be in a war that benefits the businesses of Americans. We need to be helping the rest of the world in order to help ourselves which would really benefit the economy. We could actually be doing businesses with the past “poor†countries of this world.
February 19th, 2007 at 12:27 pm#107
February 19th, 2007 at 12:50 pmFor a moment, pretend you’re the President. Should you assume that the image we see of the government is anything other than theatrics you would see who the true leaders are? Why do we have weapons called, “RODS OF GOD� Because the military intends to do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of the US Government. It in fact has to. George Washington was diplomatic to a degree but I would not want to PISS HIM OFF (if he were alive that is).
We are in the desert and all of the reasons for being there have evaporated. Wake up your apocalyptic nightmares have already been mapped out. There is not a place on the Earth that is not targeted. If you’re religious you know that only 144,000 are spared and the rest shall perish… ashes to ashes, dust to dust. If you’re into science and Darwin then you know that all creatures exist on a curve and we passed the top since we now require more resources then we actually have. People are drawing SHORT STRAWS!
We need good warriors and fighters to ensure that the fittest will survive. If humans do not survive the cleaning then natural selection has decided that we don’t fit in.
Here’s one big reason why Wolf Blitzed would have Tony Snowjob on to spin things around on Iran.
http://www.rys2sense.com/ anti-neocons/ viewtopic.php?p=27237
February 19th, 2007 at 1:14 pmHow many Sheeple, fake Christians, Repulicrat worshippers are going to eat his words up and be GUNG HO for more war? All of them.
Because being a good soldier means envisioning yourself as a dead soldier. Yay!
Let’s all watch Future Weapons! It’s so awesome! I can’t wait til I feel the brunt of their new technology! WAR RULES!!! GO JOE!!!
February 19th, 2007 at 1:30 pmNow, as at the beginning, the objective of most who oppose these follies is not to protect Iran, or Iraq … it is, was, and will be to protect the best interests of the United States, something this administration fails to do.
February 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pmmk
Should one oil tanker be sunk at the narrow point of the Persian Gulf the cost of oil in the use will escalate well over $100.00 per barrel. The flow of oil is all that is important now. The America we were all born in is completely based on OIL. Not some things but all things that we make and do are directly or indirectly dependant on it.
We cannot mine uranium without OIL first to make the equipment and power the machines. Processing requires more energy than the useful yield from the actual uranium as a fuel.
February 19th, 2007 at 1:56 pmProtecting a country from the likes of Bush/Cheney? Doesn’t seem so unreasonable.
February 19th, 2007 at 2:27 pmTONY? You’re nothing but another cocksucking republician freedom hater, that really should be bitch-slapped, then water boarded for about 10 minutes, then stripped naked, blindfolded, stand on a four inch board two feet off the ground while german shepards that a chunk out of your flat ass every time you squeel like a pig…then bitch slapped again
February 19th, 2007 at 3:28 pmSnow is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations; another puppet for the NWO who advocates the wishes and whims of the rich men of the world like the Rockefellers, Rothschild, et al members of the Bildebergers. These people control vast money, news networks, and they are in the same playing field with the Vatican. They are now in power, but not forever thank God. Ed Largy
February 19th, 2007 at 3:37 pmI think maybe some in congress are just trying to protect human life, something that this administration obviously doesn’t put much value on.
February 19th, 2007 at 4:26 pmWhat have peoples expected from a Fox-News reporter?
They are all either paid lapdogs or paid shills? Toni Snow is both.
This (lap)dog is braindead.
February 19th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSomebody ought to knock his block off!
It seems like, for the better part of 6 years now, we have been called traitors, told to watch what we say, that to observe that Bush is having a bad hair day is tantamount to sheltering Osama bin Laden and on and on.
Well, I for one, am sick to damn death of it!
They always qualify it by saying”Democrats in Congress,” or “some in Congress,” but they clearly mean any of us with whom they disagree.
Whatever, where I come from, calling someone a traitor is what we call “fightn’ words.” Here that, Snow-job, you blow-haired, Faux News, dumb-ass?
Besides, what would be wrong with trying to protect a whole, huge nation, full of people, who have never done a damn thing to us, from our frothing-at-the-mouth, ideologically insane, neocon-run, rogue regime.
Does it never enter the mind of this foolish nitwit that some of us are appalled at being made unwitting war criminals by this thuggish administration, and that we do not trust them not to make things much, much worse, before we can get them the hell out of power?
February 19th, 2007 at 5:24 pmComment by M. Sinjohn — February 19, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
I like you…I think we’re gonna get along just fine…
February 19th, 2007 at 5:30 pm** Latest update on US Iran ‘plan’ - via the BBC. **
More here at link
February 19th, 2007 at 7:20 pmSTOP buying things that you don’t need. RIGHT NOW! See how much these pundits for war can talk if they don’t have all of us buying stuff from the corporations that pay those lobbyists and advertising fees.
If you want Change, keep it in your pocket.
It’s too late for anything else. Stay home, buy less, buy local, make it yourself. Turn off the TV.
Of COURSE they are trying to protect Iran, you dummy! They are trying to protect the people of Iran from what we did to the people of Iraq. Maybe Iran isn’t kissing our butt right now, but at least they still have a country.
February 19th, 2007 at 7:47 pmSo what if they are trying to protect Iran? Iran never invaded any of its neighbors. Iran was invaded by U.S. “asset” Saddam Hussein in the 1980’s. Iran never tried to overthrow another country’s government. It was the U.S. that overthrew the government of Iran in 1953. Snow’s statement is tantamount to admitting Iran needs protecting from another U.S. - sponsored attack.
February 19th, 2007 at 11:00 pmCheney is trading Taiwan for Iran nukes. The Russians will get 120 oil. Cheney, Chimpy will get richer as their Blind Trusts profit from the collapse of the economy. It will be the ultimate crescendo of the 50 year rise of the military and oil complexes. All the players are going long oil, gold and short the dollar and stocks. This is going to be one hell of a period. There will be food riots in the major cities. The fall of Rome.
February 20th, 2007 at 12:01 amTony scumbag Snowjob is a liar — just like the lying, satanic administration he represents.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6055
February 20th, 2007 at 3:24 amNot that I admire the very appropriately named Mr. Snow, but his comments have more truth than people here acknowledge. To appreciate the truth in his comments, you need to plumb the large, dark, subterranean world of what can’t be said in contemporary America.
The party line in our increasingly Pravda-esque corporate media is: Israel is our ally, and Iran our enemy. What you see if you open your eyes, however, is difficult to square with the party line. You will see that Israel, it’s US lobby, and its neocon operatives have marched the USA into a permanent series of proxy wars designed to enable Israel to accomplish its goals for ethnic cleansing and territory acquisition in Palestine. The damage to the USA has been enourmous, and takes a lot of words even to summarize:
– We have sacrificed our standing, credibility, and moral authority in the world.
– We have sacrificed our moral principles. Now we routinely disregard international laws and principles like the Geneva conventions, and we routinely use torture, with dogged justification by top Republican lawyers.
– We have sacrificed our civil liberties, which previously stood for more than two centuries. Opposition is now routinely termed treason, and the fourth amendment is effectively dead as it applies to political “infractions.” A new McCarthyism reigns, under which criticism of the party line leads to rapid black-listing.
– Our institutions have been corrupted. The CIA, which once possessed a degree of autonomy and integrity, has been reduced to a factory for fake intelligence ordered up by White House schemers.
– The integrity of our public life has been sacrificed. We have entered a strangely soviet-like phase where party-line lies are repeated even after everyone knows they are lies, and it happens so often that we have lost the energy even to complain.
– And of course there are the hundreds of billions of dollars, the thousands of American soldiers killed, the tens of thousands maimed.
Some of these phenomena spring from forces larger than the neocons and the constellation of Israeli proxy wars (on terror, Iraq, soon Iran). But the proxy wars are clearly the main engine of damage.
If an enemy is one who harms us, it’s tempting to point out that no nation has done anywhere near as much damage to the USA in recent times as Israel. I’ll be the first to point out that it’s out of selfishness on the part of Israel rather than out of malice toward the USA. But damage is damage.
Iran, on the other hand, has done little tangible damage to the USA since the hostage crisis. Sure, Iran has been our opponent in various geopolitical chess games, but those are mostly the work of policy wonks and special interests, and their relation to the true interests of the USA and its people is always tenuous.
So that is the strange situation in which we find ourselves. No Democrat would dare to challenge the Israel lobby, because doing so is political instant death. But many Democratic leaders and office-holders are intelligent people, who have eyes and know how to analyze what their eyes see. Some have no doubt concluded, in the inner sanctums of their minds where so far even the NSA can’t see, that: Israel has over-reached; that having the USA spend the next century fighting Israeli proxy wars is not good for the USA, not good for humanity, not good for the earth, not good even for God; and that facts on the ground might do what our broken political process is no longer capable of doing – free US policy from Israeli control and reassert our independence. Some Democrats probably are trying to protect Iran, as a last-resort, round-about strategy to stop the damage. Tony Snow sees that, and like any good political operative, he wants to undermine the strategy and make the Democrats pay a price.
The Iranian mullahs operate an ugly regime, and they are not an ally you would ever choose except out of desperation. But what are the options? Remember that history is long. The news media operate with a two-week time horizon, and politicians operate with a two-year horizon. But history is long. The question: can a Israeli-US alliance dominate and control the Middle East, and at what cost? – has one answer if your time horizon is two weeks, another answer if it’s two years, and yet another (very different) answer if it’s the rest of history. Politicians know it’s foolish to talk about long time horizons, but inside their minds, they are sometimes capable of thinking over long horizons. Some Democrats have undoubtedly recognized that our current direction, over the long term, would be extremely destructive.
Much of what I wrote here is forbidden, as you well know. But you also know that millions of Americans are thinking the same thing, and that America would be better off and would recover some of its lost integrity if it were permitted to say these things openly.
February 20th, 2007 at 4:33 amI really believe that Tony is going to hell. You can’t lie to a country on a weekly basis in such a way that prolongs perpetual war and expect a place in heaven. You just can’t.
February 20th, 2007 at 4:48 amI am an American, living in Germany. I deal with Iranians, Iraqis, Afghanis, on a regular basis. The little girls love flowers and butterflies. The little boys love dinosaurs and elephants? Sound familiar? The mothers love their children and the men love and will protect their families? I have never met a one from any country who was rude to me, or violent, or hateful. They don’t hate me for being American and I don’t hate them for being who they are. There is a certain amount of mutual respect among the “little people” of both worlds, because we all know that we are getting fucked! And we all know that its about money, and oil, and power. Iranians are almost the same as Americans, they pray to a different God. But, according to our principles in America, that is ok. Or isn’t it? Mormons attacking Baptists? That would be funny. This not all about US. You neocons should get out of your comfort zones for a half a day and try to learn what the hell you are talking about. Alex….you disgust me. Not just as an American, but as a human being. We don’t OWN this planet. And we are no better people just because we were born on this land. Get a clue you selfish, immature, angry, greedy, piece of human garbage.
February 20th, 2007 at 7:47 amUhh.. Protect them from…. An invasion.. that you say.. Isn’t going to happen.. Riiiiiight… *backs away very slowly*
February 20th, 2007 at 8:11 amI guess because I believe that this administration is a bunch of liars and crooks, then the neocons will bunch me in with the “turrists”. Oh wait, I almost forgot. Ninety-five percent of the world thinks (”knows”) that this administartion is full of liars and crooks (if not outright murderers) at the very least. Doing the neocon math (” if yer not with us, yer against us) that means that ninety-five percent of the world are “turrists”. And WE are fighting them! Better get real busy boys! In fact, the only people in the world who DON’T see whats going on, are the Americans who refuse to recognize facts even when they are presented before their eyes, or who won’t acknowledge lies even when the lies have been exposed all over the media, all over the world. (Hi ALEX)
This is about power and control and greed and insanity, not about democracy. Wake up!
February 20th, 2007 at 8:32 amI wonder if this build up is all pressure, or if it is real. I don’t know. However, I know that the slightest spark could set this thing off- remember how WWI started?
-J. Kaiser
February 20th, 2007 at 8:58 amJohn your comment is a puzzle. And yet very insightful.
February 20th, 2007 at 10:08 amThanks, whathe–, living in another country and watching my own country (which I love dearly) turned into the laughing stock of the universe promotes insight. Laughing stock? Yeah, except that no one is laughing, because most people on the Earth realize how dangerous this little power scramble is for the “little people” of the world. Very sad, but it promotes insight.
February 20th, 2007 at 11:02 amThat’s funny! Why did they remove my blog that I just posted that humanizes middle-Easteners??
February 20th, 2007 at 11:28 amI didn’t realize that this blog was being edited for unoffensive content. What a shame. One less recepticle for free speech. Go neo-cons!
February 20th, 2007 at 11:33 amLet’s try this again
I am an American, living in Germany. I deal with Iranians, Iraqis, Afghanis, on a regular basis. The little girls love flowers and butterflies. The little boys love dinosaurs and elephants? Sound familiar? The mothers love their children and the men love and will protect their families? I have never met a one from any country who was rude to me, or violent, or hateful. They don’t hate me for being American and I don’t hate them for being who they are. There is a certain amount of mutual respect among the “little people†of both worlds, because we all know that we are getting fucked! And we all know that its about money, and oil, and power. Iranians are almost the same as Americans, they pray to a different God. But, according to our principles in America, that is ok. Or isn’t it? Mormons attacking Baptists? That would be funny. This not all about US. You neocons should get out of your comfort zones for a half a day and try to learn what the hell you are talking about. Alex….you disgust me. Not just as an American, but as a human being. We don’t OWN this planet. And we are no better people just because we were born on this land. Get a clue you selfish, immature, angry, greedy, piece of human garbage.
February 20th, 2007 at 11:37 amI tried it again….and it was removed again. Great!
February 20th, 2007 at 11:48 amAnswer for #12. What do we do if “That Sh_ty Little Country In the Middle East” bombs Iran? Simple we cut off their 3 billion dollars a year courtesy of the US taxpayer.
February 20th, 2007 at 12:36 pmWell, like the Young Turks have said it is more likely that the friends of Bush the Saudi’s are arming the insurgents since our kids are being killed in Sunni dominated areas. The Iranians are Shia. Why would they give money and arms to Sunni’s whom they dislike? The Saudi’s are Sunni. Maybe America needs to wake up (again) and take a look at this and what comes out of Snowballs mouth and the rest of the minions at the White House. Why on earth would he say that congress is trying to protect Iran? He is just trying to protect the president. He has filled Scotty’s shoes rather well. He is even more of a nutball that either Scott or Ari Fleischer were.
February 20th, 2007 at 1:00 pmOnce again, the U.S. government is trying to get us into a war in a country about which we know very little. To me, the wiser course of action would be to allow the U.N. to try and negotiate the conflict with Iran first, and maybe fight that battle later if absolutely necessary (at this point in time, I don’t see the necessity). This is in part because of the fact that by trying to fight on three fronts at once, we would be straining our resources pretty badly. Germany lost World War I in part because they were trying to divide their forces between two fronts. We will almost certainly lose if we try to fight on three fronts.
February 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmTony Snowjob is the most disgusting weasel EVER!!!!!
February 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAshenShard— post 71. Yours was an excellent post. Logically funny and a good read about the about the illogical actions of the captains of our ship of state. Unreasonable reasoning by those slopping around in their delusional quagmire of crap.
February 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmNo one in their RIGHT MIND would pay any attention to the NONSENSE spilling out of Tony Snow’s LYING Yap-Trap!!!!! OBFUSCATION, PREVARICATION and OUT-AND-OUT LYING are Bushland Uber Allies STOCK-IN-TRADE and Snow is one of Bushland’s most skilled practitioners of this F(art)!!!!!
February 20th, 2007 at 8:00 pmBut if Iran’s not going to be attacked, them from what are they supposed to be protecting it?
It seems like if Bush’s not actually going to attack Iran, then he would approve of people putting more pressure on it by saying that he is.