Party Over Country: 25 Members Of Congress Who Criticized Escalation But Voted For It Anyway
Party Over Country: 25 Members Of Congress Who Criticized Escalation But Voted For It Anyway
Last week, Iraq war veteran and VoteVets founder Jon Soltz appealed for members of Congress to “put country above party” and vote against escalation in Iraq.
Majorities in both the House and Senate answered Soltz’s call. But at least 25 members of Congress caved to partisan pressure and voted in favor of escalation, despite having publicly criticized President Bush’s strategy in the weeks prior to the vote. Here are four examples:
Rep. Virginia Brown-Waite (R-FL): “It’s too little, too late, and should have been done a year ago. … I just get a feeling our country is being used.”
Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM): “I am not a supporter of a surge to do for the Iraqis what the Iraqis will not do for themselves.”
Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ): “I have little confidence that a surge in troop levels will change the situation in Iraq in any substantive fashion. It seems clear that the violence in Iraq is increasingly sectarian, and inserting more troops in this atmosphere is unlikely to improve the situation.
Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH): “I am skeptical that a surge of troops will bring an end to the escalation of violence and the insurgency in Iraq… I’m absolutely against the surge.“
When it came time to vote, these four members — and 21 of their colleagues — couldn’t muster the courage to buck their own party and vote against escalation. These members appear to understand the danger of sending tens of thousands of U.S. troops into Iraq’s bloody civil war. They just don’t care enough to do something about it.
The full list of the “Party-Over-Country” 25:
HOUSE
Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD)
Virginia Brown-Waite (R-FL)
Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)
Charles W. Dent (R-PA)
Jo Ann Emerson (R-MO)
Mike Ferguson (R-NJ)
Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Rodney P. Frelinghuysen (R-NJ)
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
David Hobson (R-OH)
Kenny Hulshof (R-MO)
John McHugh (R-NY)
Candice Miller (R-MI)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Deborah Pryce (R-OH)
Mike Rogers (R-MI)
Edward Royce (R-CA)
Mark Souder (R-IN)
Tom Tancredo (R-CO)
Mac Thornberry (R-TX)
Greg Walden (R-OR)
Heather Wilson (R-NM)
SENATE
George Voinovich (R-OH)
Gordon Smith (R-OR) Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Click HERE to see these members’ statements on escalation, and HERE for a full tally of all members of Congress.
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Told ya...
TRAITORS every ONE...
February 21st, 2007 at 1:30 pmthat's sad, but very, very typical of the "new school" Republican'ts
February 21st, 2007 at 1:33 pmWhy do they say one thing and do another? It's like bad parenting, except America is the child.
February 21st, 2007 at 1:34 pmKey component of fascism is ideology before Nation. Party before safety. These amoral despots have cast their vote in blood.
February 21st, 2007 at 1:35 pmThese members appear to understand the danger of sending tens of thousands of U.S. troops into Iraq’s bloody civil war.
February 21st, 2007 at 1:44 pmBut since they have no family members serving or about to serve,
they just don’t care enough to do something about it.
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I`ll be back however, I am being transferred March 1st to a new “assignment†within the NSA.
I have my list of “subversives†now.
My assignment here is over.
If Rachel really does work for the NSA, God help us all.
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February 21st, 2007 at 1:45 pmWatch how they vote not what they say. All politicians lie but, the rubber-stamping Repugs are unprecedented in their thuggery.
February 21st, 2007 at 1:47 pmThe NSA pays me upwards of 6 figures to compile my "subversives" list.
I am "very" good at what I do.
I have seen enough of EVERYONE'S hard drives to "comfortably" report to the agency a bonafide "subversives" list.
In a nutshell, quite a few here have made it, and that is all I will say on that matter.
February 21st, 2007 at 1:50 pmWe just lost another 'copter in Baghdad. A Blackhawk.
February 21st, 2007 at 1:52 pmDamn,I just love paying for those things.
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Promise?
February 21st, 2007 at 2:02 pmYeah, they're on the LIST. You know, the one that has their dirty laundry ready to hang out...!
February 21st, 2007 at 2:05 pmrachel rj kinnardi sez:
"and that is all I will say on that matter.".
Over and over and over and over and over and ...............
February 21st, 2007 at 2:08 pmSOS! WE GOT TOTAL CATASTROPHY IN ITALY
February 21st, 2007 at 2:12 pmAfter Blair announced Iraq withdrawal today Prodi was obviously too sure about an iraq withdrawal. all lifetime senators did not vote. the final outcome was 158 136 for prodi, 2 short of the 160 needed
http://it.news.yahoo.com/21022007/58-56/berlusconi-prodi-l-obbligo-dimettersi.html
Gordon Smith voted to invoke cloture on Saturday...why is he on this list? He also gave that rousing floor speech last December that garnered major media coverage.
I understand that his seat is a good pick up opportunity for Dems in 08, but he voted the right way on S. 574. We have to praise Repubs who cross the aisle on Iraq if we want more to come over.
Unless we're more interested in electoral pick ups than actually forming a bipartisan congressional majority to end the war.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:13 pmRachel,
Could you please go bid on my ebay items? Just pay the "buy it now" prices please.
Since you're able to "see" everyone's hard drive, this should be a cake walk for you and your 9th grade classmates.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:14 pmtwo faced representation. and notably all republican.
now they have done something to be proud of.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:16 pm[...] believe: 25 Republicans who criticized strongly the “surge” (escalation) in Iraq, but voted for it anyway in obedience to their party. From ThinkProgress: Last week, Iraq war veteran and VoteVets founder [...]
February 21st, 2007 at 2:17 pm†THE COWARDS FEAR IMPEACHING BUSH “
YES THE REPUBLICANS AND THE DEMOCRATS FEAR IMPEACHMENT WHY BECAUSE THEY FEAR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:23 pmHIGH CRIMES:
HAVING THE FACTS OF WAR (MANIPULATED).
TV, PUTTING FEAR INTO THE HARTS AND MINED OF AMERICANS ( LYING ).
WMD’S, CHEMICAL WEAPONS, NUKES OVER AMERICA.
YELLOW CAKE, TELLING AMERICANS THAT IRAQ WAS BUYING YELLOW CAKE, FOUND TO BE A LIE SET OUT TO OUT A CIA AGENT AND DESTROY HER HUSBANDS LIFE.
ASKING FOR MILLIONS FOR THE TROOPS THEN POCKETING THOUSANDS AS 3,100 PLUS U.S. ARE KILLED.
HALLIBURTON , (CONFLICT OF INTEREST) 1999 CHENEY IS STILL C.E.O. OF HALLIBURTON
ETC., ETC., ETC..
CHENEY TOOK AN OATH THAT HE WOULD NOT LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, PUT AMERICAN TROOPS IN HARMS WAY IRAQ ON FALUS INFORMATION, NOT USE FEAR TO CONTROL THE MASSES
hope their voters have had enough. maybe nancy can send them on a fact finding mission outside the green zone?
February 21st, 2007 at 2:24 pmhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/16/terror/main2488520.shtml
Why does the GOP take money from terrorist?
February 21st, 2007 at 2:27 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey #10
Just couldn't resist could ya Trip... :)
hehehehehe!!!!
...you KNOW there's something...uh..."special" going on there (#8)...
...don't you?
February 21st, 2007 at 2:27 pm#8 bwahahahaha, NSA agent? I certainly agree that hiring standards have been thrown out the window under bush syndicate rule, but seriously, has it come to this? I notice you didn't say anything about your position as a mossad agent/battlefield transplant surgeon - has that gig been canceled too?
February 21st, 2007 at 2:29 pmParty over country---that's funny! TP is apparently trying to attach the Democrats stigma to the Republicans.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:30 pmHaving guts:
Check out my blog, http://www.aquietevening.blogspot.com
February 21st, 2007 at 2:31 pmThey like to be heard doing the right thing on TV but on paper they do the opposite .......basically lying to TV viewers who dont follow to the end result
February 21st, 2007 at 2:38 pmNamed and Shamed
February 21st, 2007 at 2:38 pmRep. Virginia Brown-Waite (R-FL): “It’s too little, too late, and should have been done a year ago. … I just get a feeling our country is being used.â€
Money, such a mighty and strong rope.
Stronger than the cord that ties the mother and child.
Powerful than the duty that binds these scums to their nation,
"...I just get a feeling our country is being used.â€
February 21st, 2007 at 2:38 pmSuch a strong and wrong choice of word.
Rather, it should be the other way round.
"That we are been used against our country..."
Italy's Prodi quits after vote lossbigger problems for US as left wing and liberals have power
February 21st, 2007 at 2:39 pm20wol - glad you could make it to the "end of conservatism" party, hoist a glass - we're toasting the descent into ignominy of the republican'ts!
February 21st, 2007 at 2:40 pmItaly's Prodi quits after vote loss
Prodi's government was unable to secure enough votes for a parliamentary motion backing Rome's foreign policy amid divisions over the Afghan war and ties with the US military.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:40 pmTHIS IS WHAT HILARY AND CONGRESS SUPPORT
Jimmy Carter’s best-selling book, “Palestine: Peace, Not Apartheid,†is causing quite a stir. Those who’ve read the book know that Carter writes about Palestine (as the title says), not Israel. Palestine is the area designated by the international community as Arab and includes the West Bank and Gaza.
I have not been to Gaza, but in 2004 visited the West Bank and Israel with Interfaith Peace Builders, an ecumenical group whose tours are often led by rabbis. In Israel, we met with soldiers, university students, settlers and peace groups. In Palestine (the West Bank) we visited the Christian Peacemaker Team in Hebron, walking first under a canopy of trash that illegal Israeli settlers throw down on the heads of the native people.
Settlers have poisoned sheep, forced the closure of native markets and attacked children trying to get to school. Peacemaker Team internationals, pledged to nonviolence, accompany the children. They, too, are attacked. While there, we saw a young American led to a doctor appointment because of a settler attack, her leg in a brace, her arm in a cast. Her co-worker was in the hospital with a collapsed lung and broken ribs. They’d been leading small children to school.
Israelis frequently close schools and universities in Palestine, often for months at a time. Roads in Palestine, where illegal Israeli settlers have hundreds of colonies, allow Israelis only. Special license plates assure this. Native roads are poor and often blocked by cement, mounds of dirt or soldiers. Palestinians must carry identity cards and can be stopped at the whim of any 18-year-old soldier.
Palestinians are restricted to small enclaves, walled ghettos. This is the end game for the Israeli government, a “state†for the native people with few contiguous borders, no control over borders or trade and little ability to move freely to visit family, go to school or university, or receive medical care. This is enforced with a heavy military presence and helicopters overhead. Even Bethlehem, a Christian town, is now surrounded by a concrete wall, the Church of the Nativity pockmarked with Israeli bullets, as is (Catholic) Bethlehem University. People are poor because they cannot move from place to place to trade. Children are starving. Water is scarce. Israelis have usurped supplies. Palestinians sometimes don’t have enough to drink.
In the United States we’ve been taught that Arabs are somehow lesser; hence, we don’t object to the slow and deliberate destruction of Palestinian society and the theft of their homes and land, all of it happening on land legally designated theirs. Israelis are not supposed to be there.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:48 pmParty over country—that’s fun to us Republicans! TP is apparently trying to attach the Democrats' Republican-created stigma back onto the Republicans, where it actually belongs. You Democrats just aren't as good at projection and labelling.
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February 21st, 2007 at 2:51 pmThe Greedy Old Politicians need to take a good long look at the mirrors the next time they question someone's patriotism.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:55 pmTobey Tall - Thanks for the first-hand account. The US public, as is widely talked about in here, never does get a good, clear picture of what's going on inthe Middle East, or the circumstances and motives of all of the players there.
I'd wager some here didn't even know there were Christians in Palestine, as there are in most countries in the region (have been all along), and that somehow, they haven't been eradicated by their muslim neighbors in all this very long time, though they have gotten caught up in tensions arising from the Israeli occupation.
Did you get any sense as to why the Irsaelis can't or won't abide by the borders agreed to in '67? If anyone has the power to calm the Middle East, it is the people of Israel, who would seem to prefer dragging the world to the brink of war rather than concede some land they grabbed - is it really that nice a piece of real estate??
February 21st, 2007 at 3:17 pmVoinovich is the main offender here. This is the THIRD time he has publicly "opposed" an administration policy or nomination, yet allows his arm to be twisted in the 11th hour. I urge ALL fellow Ohio residents to read the link below, and remember this party lap-dog in 2008. We already defeated Dewine, now let's nail this scumbag down on his meaningless drivel. Voinovich - THE ORIGINAL FLIP FLOPPER!!
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=trb053005
February 21st, 2007 at 3:23 pmThat statement might be true, if you were posting at redstate or any other right wing blog.
February 21st, 2007 at 3:30 pmTravis - Gordo is an opportunist who knows he's facing a tough election in 2008 - he's just positioning himself - don't buy it. If he gets re-elected he'll be right back voting the party line. Heck, he probably got permission from Trent - as long as the total was less than 60 votes they can let the potentially vulnerable types like Gordo play games with the electorate.
February 21st, 2007 at 3:50 pmI have just turned in my "subersives listâ„¢ " to my superiors. I had a total of 37 off of this site, NO MATTER WHAT IDENTITY YOU POST UNDER.
Nicknames? They are no good to the NSA. When you "own" the source code of subversives hard drives, nicknames are meaningless. You, (at least 37 of you), have been identified not by NAME, but by preassigned NUMBER.
Happy posting.
February 21st, 2007 at 3:52 pmSource code has nothing to do with drives dumb a$$. source code is for operating systems and other software, not hardware. They use firmware.
God, you should take a class before you post bullsh!t.
February 21st, 2007 at 3:56 pmIt's interesting how you can almost track the level of medication in Rachel's bloodstream by her postings. I think you've fallen out of the therapeutic window again Rachel, try bumping up the dosage this time.
February 21st, 2007 at 4:05 pmAt this point, I’m seriously considering the possibilities of canine un-aided airborne flight, say, projected from a 80 mph speeding car in the vicinity of Devil’s Backbone road, whilst the head flight engineer sucks down yet another tepid can o’ Blatz, stifling a heartfelt guffaw – a true Beavis and Butthead moment. With all the barely concealed turds secreted whilst I sup at the dining table of life, dog accompaniment carries about as much import as whether Al Qaida uses too much olive oil in their Hummus. Who caaaarrrreeeesss!!!!! I find the new back-to-school fashions more enamoring than this silly dwaddle.
February 21st, 2007 at 4:11 pm38-Spudge - I didn't mean you or the regulars of course. I intended there to allude to thing wingers without calling them by name, on the off chance that what I said wouldn't be reflexively rejected. My bad, for overthinking communication involving righties.
February 21st, 2007 at 4:38 pmIt is not “as far as I know. It is what it is and you can’t change that by posting stupid bullshit on a blog thread.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
As far as YOU know.
I'll never tell.
It is a "state secret" how we track you here.
And track we do.
At least 37 of you.
So far.
And Pud in the ASs BOY?
The "source code" of your hard drive IS your operating system asswiper.
And when you "OWN" the source code, you "OWN" the hard drive.
February 21st, 2007 at 4:43 pmYou mean the source code ON your hard drive is the operating system.
And you know that thanks to me. Glad I could help loony.
February 21st, 2007 at 4:54 pmIt's all good tom baker. The righties will twist what you say to make it out that you don't think anybody here does their homework.
February 21st, 2007 at 4:56 pmLet me see.... Politicians saying what they think the public wants to hear and then voting the way they want, even if it's opposite what they just said....
Noooo.. that doesn't happen.
Come on.. Is anyone really surprised??
February 21st, 2007 at 5:19 pmFlaccid dicks.
February 21st, 2007 at 5:25 pmWhat's the point in voting against your own beliefs, especially to support a lost cause and a failed president? Hope their careers go down with the ship.
Once a repugnant-repub, ALWAYS a repugnant-repub! VOTING PARTY OVER COUNTRY EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!! The Party of Family Values and America First????? HAH! repugnant-repubs like these creeps MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH!!!!! Even TAPEWORMS and LEECHES would give these foetid cowardly scum a WIDE BERTH so as to avoid getting poisoned from their venomous bile and dreck they exude from their every pore--and those are their GOOD points!!!!! The Blair Witch(tm)and The Frankenstein Monster(tm) decided to move out of town when these repugnant-repubs moved in next to them--"There Goes the Neighbourhood!" Said Witchy and Franky!!!!!
February 21st, 2007 at 5:57 pmAction speaks louder than words. Vote every one of these sobs out.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:09 pm"......caved to partisan pressure and voted in favor of escalation, despite having publicly criticized President Bush’s strategy in the weeks prior to the vote." from the article
I've been looking throught the TP archives but couldn't seem to find a list of Democrats who routinely say one thing (about the war) and vote the other. (Remember when Dems, beholdin' to the Unions, didn't back the TSA transfer? Passenger safety wasn't on their minds one whit. Remember Dems, after carefully screening public opinion polls, found initial support for the war high, and voted overwhelmingly in favor? And when the shift in the polls, comes Democrats with their self-flagellation and mea culpas. Many have the spines of jellyfish. The poor jellyfish can't help the lack of spine, many Dems choose the spineless approach.)
February 21st, 2007 at 6:16 pmI’ve been looking throught the TP archives but couldn’t seem to find a list of Democrats who routinely say one thing (about the war) and vote the other. Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
You can start with Lieberman - oh, but wait, he's a republican now... Funny how that works! We got rid of most of you when the redstate rednecks like you joined the GOPstapo. Please, take the rest with you, Anorexia girl.
Did you catch the medical news today venus, Anorexia is caused by a genetic mistake in your DNA and a fcuked up childhood. You're the product of screwed up nature and nurture - aren't you thrilled to know why you and Ann Coulter are so messed up? It isn't your fault, crazy girl.
Remember Dems, after carefully screening public opinion polls, found initial support for the war high, and voted overwhelmingly in favor? Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Yeah, why should a politician that represents the people care to try to do what the people wants. That's a democratic value, there's no room for that in your Right WingNuttery fantasy is there tic-tac girl?
And when the shift in the polls, comes Democrats with their self-flagellation and mea culpas. Many have the spines of jellyfish. The poor jellyfish can’t help the lack of spine, many Dems choose the spineless approach.) Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Spineless is being unable to admit you made a mistake, and blaming others for that mistake. Spineless is having such a tiny ego, that mea culpas don't happen. Spineless is the jellyfish of following a stupid course of action, to avoid appearing weak. The Dems that choose the spineless approach become Independents or Red State converts to Right WingNuttery. You have lots of experience with spineless, Anorexia girl. It's why you have such a low self confidence, and a bad body image. You're spineless.
Stop blaming the world for your spineless, you stupid c*nt.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:28 pmValiant Venus, I almost forgot my favorite example of spineless. McCain.
Senator McCain: Falwell is an agent of intolerance.
Candidate McCain: Kissy Kissy my buddy Falwell.
Come on Mighty Aphrodite, you hypocrites thrive on criticizing others for your own failures and weaknesses. It's why you're the butt of every joke comedians can throw out. Because the world knows you're hypocritical, delusional fools with low self esteem that posture to avoid showing your weaknesses.
See democrats grow out of that stage, usually at puberty. Maybe if you ate a better diet, you'd finally reach puberty and understand this whole thing better, Mizz Tic-Tac.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pm"Did you get any sense as to why the Irsaelis can’t or won’t abide by the borders agreed to in ‘67?"
Here Tom - hope this helps:
On the political field, tensions once again arose between Israel and her neighbors in May 1967. Syria, Jordan, and Egypt had been hinting at war [18] and Egypt expelled UN Peacekeeping Forces from the Gaza Strip. When Egypt violated prior treaties and closed the strategic Straits of Tiran to Israeli vessels, and began massing large amounts of tanks and aircraft on Israel's borders, Israel deemed it a casus belli for pre-emptively attacking Egypt on June 5. In the ensuing Six-Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors, Israel defeated the armies of three large Arab states and won a decisive victory over their air forces. Territorially, Israel conquered the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula, and Golan Heights. ....On October 6, 1973, the day in 1973 of the Jewish Yom Kippur fast, the Egyptian and Syrian armies launched a surprise attack against Israel. Despite early successes against an unprepared Israeli army, Egypt and Syria were eventually repelled by the Israeli forces.
That pretty much sums it up.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pm"......you stupid c*nt."
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Jason, Your mom said you were suffering from Tourettes' Syndrome - I hope the new medication helps. Psst....there's a little drool running down your chin....you may want to use a Kleenex.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:37 pmValiant (VGFU),
you're a beast...
grrrrrr...
...please continue...
...kick it's royal (wannabe) a*s... :)
February 21st, 2007 at 6:38 pmWhen Egypt violated prior treaties and closed the strategic Straits of Tiran to Israeli vessels, and began massing large amounts of tanks and aircraft on Israel’s borders, Israel deemed it a casus belli for pre-emptively attacking Egypt on June 5. Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
Ironic that Jews and Poles didn't think this defense was sufficient for Hitler. How times change, when right wingnuts get in charge. Even in Israel.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:39 pmJason, Your mom said you were suffering from Tourettes’ Syndrome - I hope the new medication helps. Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Aphrodite, your Myspace webpage says you were suffering from a low self esteem, and Anorexia.
Psst….there’s a little drool running down your chin….you may want to use a Kleenex. Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Pssst. Eat a tic-tac, at your weight your brain is so nonfunctional, your arguments are even thinner and more disgusting than you are.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:41 pmJane the ignorant slut thinks it's funny that her NeoNazi friends lied to Dems and got them to support the war. And that Dems are somehow 'spineless' because they were lied to.
Yet she doesn't find those that lied 'spineless'.
Does this show moral character, or just low blood sugar from a confused 23 old single girl with a big mouth that never eats any food?
February 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pmThat pretty much sums it up. Comment by valiant venus — February 21, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
So political science wasn't the only course you failed, we can add math to the list Anorexia girl.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pmSo would you consider Kuwait stealing the oil resources right from under Iraq casus belli to protect a commercial interest?
You really should stop pretending to be an attorney, we all know you're a single, lonely, b*thcy 23 year old Anorexic commodities trader Aphrodite. You've been caught.
You wouldn't know a casus belli from a marvin belli.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:46 pmvaliant venus
"Causa bella" id est.
February 21st, 2007 at 6:53 pmvaliant venus
“Causa bella†id est.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — February 21, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Yeah, I'm sure that the attack and invasion of the village of Es Samu in Jordan (filled with civilians) just 6 months before the 6 day war was seen as 'casus belli' by the Jordanians.
In fact the military minds of the day said this attack was so out of context and inflammatory that it would (and did) cause the Arab world to respond.
The Mighty Aphrodite c*nt is typical of the right wingnut apologists of all religious/cultural foundations. Whether they be zionists or islamists, the 'is'ists' always say it's the other guys fault, and avoid any culpability in the situation.
Sorry Mighty Aphrodite, but the response of Egypt and Jordan came from Israel invading their territories with an army first in 1966.
But I wouldn't expect you to know, comprehend or process that. You'd have to eat something first before your brain would have enough glucose. Your daily diet of a tic-tac just isn't enough.
February 21st, 2007 at 7:00 pm54: thanks just the same v v, but i was asking someone who'd been there and congressed with people on both sides recently, and hoping for their answer. i already had a better than passing familiarity with the principle causes of the 6Days conflict.
February 21st, 2007 at 7:15 pmSpudge_Boy,
February 21st, 2007 at 7:35 pmSome how, my first post on the source code matter vanished into the TP bit bucket. Source code can be written in assembler, compiler or machine language. The stuff that exists on your hard drive or ROM exists as machine language. There are tools that convert machine language to assembler. These tools do not convert machine language into source because there is no method that will span the different compilers.
I have actually written some interrupt vectors that will not yield to the disassembly tools because they exploit certain quirks in the Intel architecture.
Who the fu*ck do you think you are hippy? What in the fu*ck in Jesus name are you angrily vomiting that shi*t about our #2 in charge man.
I am from the very deep South and we love yanks even far north and west as Cheney’s home state. You gawd damnned “yellow-belly†yanks better crawl back under your Circu-Circus pizza box and smoke some more crack that you attain from your swelfare chack every month.
Got that CRAkKeR?
Well do ya punkass white yank ass shitball faggo lezbo hom pinko faggotic grabbasstic piece of civilian slime traitorous peter-puffer smack ass big wally suckin aids infested hippy ass bitch!!
February 21st, 2007 at 10:01 pmDr. Condoleezza Rice: magnificently accomplished and educated woman; brilliant scholar; concert pianist; gracious lady; presidential confident and trusted advisor; dedicated public servant; political giant and National Security Advisor to The President of the United States of America. And now, Secretary of State of the most powerful country on the planet. The first African-American female Secretary of State in our history.
Why would such an accomplished American woman be so savagely and viciously trashed and dishonored by the liberal elites and the left-wing Democratic Party? Not only trashed, but insulted, bad-mouthed, ridiculed and humiliated.What does a girl have to do to win the accolades and approval of these people?
Condi Rice has garnered the scorn of her Democratic colleagues, not because of what she has accomplished, but because of who and what she is. She is a black American, who is guilty of an unspeakable crime in liberal eyes.Her crime? She does not worship at the altar of the Democratic Party. Condi Rice has committed the unpardonable sin.She has dared to carve out her own political path while black.
And so has any black American sinned who dares to look the Democratic Party in their face and say, “You are wrong. I don’t need you.I don’t want you.I can do better than youâ€. And so she has.
The Democrats haughtily assume they own black America and their votes.They ridicule and belittle any black who dares to wander off their liberal “plantationâ€.
They think any black American who seeks a life free of Democratic ownership, is stupid, ignorant, uneducated and misinformed. Condi Rice, in particular, has been labeled a bald-faced liar, a puppet, a sycophant, and a mindless, thoughtless, robotic, brainwashed slave of George W. Bush. In their eyes, any black who dares to snub the Democrats is a traitor.
Countless cartoons and articles have insulted and offended her and her blackness in ways we have not seen since the pre-Civil War south.
Condi Rice dared to tell the Democratic owners that she believes the conservative mindset is her home. She dares to be a black Republican. And so they savaged her.
The liberal elites cry foul! She is black and not allowed to be a conservative! She is beholden to them, and only them, for the freedom she has attained. They own her and she has not paid them back for the favors they bestowed upon her and her people. Not only is she uppity, she is ungrateful!
The Democratic Party is the party of Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Grand Dragon in the Ku Klux Klan. This pitiful excuse for a human being still throws the “N†word around like it is butter, and is never corrected by his liberal cronies. This sad, pathetic man has the blind hubris to say Condi Rice is not fit to serve, when he himself is not fit, nor shall he ever be fit, to walk the hallowed halls of Congress.
Bulletin to Democratic liberals: Condi Rice owes you nothing. Clarence Thomas, who your leader, the disgraceful Harry Reid, called “an embarrassment to the courtâ€, owes you nothing.You don’t own them anymore.They are not beholden to you for anything.Stings, doesn’t it?
But isn’t that the country you’ve always preached about? At least until someone dares to leave your plantation. Then you turn back the clock and call them lying buffoons who don’t have enough sense to hold high office; too stupid to see that George Bush is a war mongering fraud.
And this same fraud just happens to be bringing freedom to a tyrannized people and is changing the face of the planet we live on; something you people have never even thought about doing and wouldn’t have the courage of conviction or the stomach to do it anyway.
And not one of you, not Robert Byrd, not Barbara Boxer, not Ted Kennedy and not Harry Reid is fit to tie Dr. Condoleezza Rice’s shoelaces.
Get over yourselves. The slaves have been freed. Get used to it. And in case you hadn’t noticed, they were freed by a Republican. His name was Abraham Lincoln.
February 21st, 2007 at 11:02 pm#4 - "Key component of fascism is ideology before Nation. Party before safety."
if I didn't know you were talking about Republicans with your "original" fascist comment, I would have sworn you were discussing lefty Dems. They oppose EVERYTHING the President does to secure the nation - just to be contrarian. I think they sealed the deal on being labelled weak on national security when they became apoplectic over NSA wiretaps of foriegn terrorist conversations and the tightening of the terror financial pipeline. Insisting Guantanamo detainees have Constitutional rights was the last straw of absurd. Excusing Saddam's payments to Palestinian suicide bombers is par for the Dem course.
February 21st, 2007 at 11:19 pm#63 - "....i already had a better than passing familiarity with the principle causes of the 6Days conflict."
Really???? You didn't seem to transmit any familiarity with the Israeli position. Maybe you were pressed for time.
February 21st, 2007 at 11:23 pmThis last diatribe is really stupid, and off-subject. Comparing Democratic and Republican politicians is like comparing apples to apples.
For Rachel: I want to get on your subversives list. My source code is:
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:34 amms.,dmnkwopppemxea;elkretc/.com
Does anyone here recall what George Washington said about party poliyics?
February 22nd, 2007 at 11:47 am[...] My current Congressman, Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and, of course, Heather Wilson (R-NM). Read it here. [...]
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 am