Comments on: 8th helicopter downed in Iraq. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:02:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1855335 tom baker Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:37:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1855335 #9 shot down today - would someone offer an explanation as to why our commanders in the field are sending choppers out on low-altitude suicide missions????? #9 shot down today – would someone offer an explanation as to why our commanders in the field are sending choppers out on low-altitude suicide missions?????

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1851655 Democrat Soldier Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:40:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1851655 Why is anyone surprised that the Sunni insurgency in Iraq, backed by the weapons provided by Saudi Arabia, are being used to kill Americans? Why is anyone surprised that the Sunni insurgency in Iraq, backed by the weapons provided by Saudi Arabia, are being used to kill Americans?

]]> By: PAL http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1851536 PAL Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:28:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1851536 Unfortunately our helicopters can only sustain damage caused by Iraqis throwing flowers to welcome our invasion. BTW, apparently there isn't a limit on the size of the postings, #39. Unfortunately our helicopters can only sustain damage caused by Iraqis throwing flowers to welcome our invasion.

BTW, apparently there isn’t a limit on the size of the postings, #39.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1846601 Jay Randal Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:56:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1846601 Am I one of the 37 posters rachel says NSA is tracking? If I am, then NSA goons can kiss my bare butt > lol. Am I one of the 37 posters rachel says NSA is tracking? If I am, then NSA goons can kiss my bare butt > lol.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1845930 WaltTheMan Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:34:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1845930 Definitions: Hardware - The iron that creates a physical machine. This can include circuits and hardware macros that perform specific calculations. A hardware macro is a set of logic circuits the can perform a calculation with no programming input, the simplest is the binary adder. Firmware - The code that makes the hardware work. This is imbeded in the chip at this point in history, hence; it could be considered 'hardware'. Their is a haze in today's world as to whether code that permanently resides (but is renewable) in a computer's flash memory is firmware or software. Software - Code that relies on the hardware, but can be changed in order to enhance function or performance without changing the base hardware and firmware. The short term for this offering is 'App'. Definitions:
Hardware – The iron that creates a physical machine. This can include circuits and hardware macros that perform specific calculations. A hardware macro is a set of logic circuits the can perform a calculation with no programming input, the simplest is the binary adder.

Firmware – The code that makes the hardware work. This is imbeded in the chip at this point in history, hence; it could be considered ‘hardware’. Their is a haze in today’s world as to whether code that permanently resides (but is renewable) in a computer’s flash memory is firmware or software.

Software – Code that relies on the hardware, but can be changed in order to enhance function or performance without changing the base hardware and firmware. The short term for this offering is ‘App’.

]]> By: paland http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1845797 paland Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:11:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1845797 klyde, they leave it up so everyone can be reminded of the stupidity of the neocons. Besides, it's good humor wo watch them stumble over themselves. klyde, they leave it up so everyone can be reminded of the stupidity of the neocons. Besides, it’s good humor wo watch them stumble over themselves.

]]> By: .n.s.a. gov./form/proj/.n.s.a.s.u.r. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1845578 .n.s.a. gov./form/proj/.n.s.a.s.u.r. Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:30:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1845578 Have you hugged your local resident NSA surveillance spy today? Have you hugged your local resident NSA surveillance spy today?

]]> By: klyde http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1845223 klyde Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:52:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1845223 <i>I have just turned in my “subersives list™ ” to my superiors. I had a total of 37 off of this site, NO MATTER WHAT IDENTITY YOU POST UNDER. Nicknames? They are no good to the NSA. When you “own” the source code of subversives hard drives, nicknames are meaningless. You, (at least 37 of you), have been identified not by NAME, but by preassigned NUMBER. Happy posting. Comment by rachel kinnardi </i> Why does TP let crap like this post and why do they leave it up when it clearly does nothing to advance the narrative or debate? Just askin. I have just turned in my “subersives list™ ” to my superiors. I had a total of 37 off of this site, NO MATTER WHAT IDENTITY YOU POST UNDER.

Nicknames? They are no good to the NSA. When you “own” the source code of subversives hard drives, nicknames are meaningless. You, (at least 37 of you), have been identified not by NAME, but by preassigned NUMBER.

Happy posting.

Comment by rachel kinnardi

Why does TP let crap like this post and why do they leave it up when it clearly does nothing to advance the narrative or debate?

Just askin.

]]> By: Spudge_Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1845120 Spudge_Boy Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:38:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1845120 Yes, WaltTheMan and paland are correct on the source code issue. As a hardware guy, I was confusing the terms. But, when it comes to SOURCE CODE, which is what crazy's first point was, a harddrive doesn't use it. There is an original source code for the firmware that goes onto a hard drive, but the NSA could give a rats ass less about what firmware is on a hard drive, nor do they give a crap about the source code for an operating system. Yes, WaltTheMan and paland are correct on the source code issue. As a hardware guy, I was confusing the terms. But, when it comes to SOURCE CODE, which is what crazy’s first point was, a harddrive doesn’t use it. There is an original source code for the firmware that goes onto a hard drive, but the NSA could give a rats ass less about what firmware is on a hard drive, nor do they give a crap about the source code for an operating system.

]]> By: paland http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844753 paland Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:39:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844753 I meant "Walt the Man" is correct. I meant “Walt the Man” is correct.

]]> By: paland http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844748 paland Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:38:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844748 Spudge Boy is correct. And you cannot reverse engineer software code anymore. You might get close on a very spall program but calls to the API's and the interaction from the DLL files makes it impossible on anything more complex than a basic frogger game. It is far too complicated. It is easier to just figure out what you want and then write the code yourself. Spudge Boy is correct. And you cannot reverse engineer software code anymore. You might get close on a very spall program but calls to the API’s and the interaction from the DLL files makes it impossible on anything more complex than a basic frogger game. It is far too complicated. It is easier to just figure out what you want and then write the code yourself.

]]> By: paland http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844725 paland Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:34:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844725 Another one bites the dust.. And another one.. And another one.. Another oen bites the dust.. Another one bites the dust..
And another one.. And another one..
Another oen bites the dust..

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844678 WaltTheMan Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:26:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844678 Spudge_Boy, In he current stage of software development, no source code is ever distributed. What actually happens s that compiler input is converted to assembly language and then is translated to machine language. There are tools (illegal ones) that can translate the machine language into assembler language. The next step up is convert the Microsoft APIs into virtual source. You still can not figure out the program author's intentions as comments are non-existant. Spudge_Boy,
In he current stage of software development, no source code is ever distributed. What actually happens s that compiler input is converted to assembly language and then is translated to machine language. There are tools (illegal ones) that can translate the machine language into assembler language. The next step up is convert the Microsoft APIs into virtual source. You still can not figure out the program author’s intentions as comments are non-existant.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844646 RUCerious Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:21:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844646 Badger, - Instead of flying or driving, maybe the troop could just spam the shit out the Iraqis and call it good. Badger, – Instead of flying or driving, maybe the troop could just spam the shit out the Iraqis and call it good.

]]> By: Isle of Lucy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844438 Isle of Lucy Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:47:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844438 Thank you, Smack. This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Thank you, Smack. This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844378 Badger Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:36:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844378 The coalition of the Willing is becoming less willing...the roads are booby trapped with IED's...the airspace is no longer safe for helicopters....the Shia and Sunni are at each others throats, and the Iraqi's don't like or trust Americans. I don't think this surge is working. The coalition of the Willing is becoming less willing…the roads are booby trapped with IED’s…the airspace is no longer safe for helicopters….the Shia and Sunni are at each others throats, and the Iraqi’s don’t like or trust Americans. I don’t think this surge is working.

]]> By: Smack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844318 Smack Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:29:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844318 rachel kinnardi -- You do know that this is AMERICA, right? I advise you read the Constitution and Bill of Rights. You should also read the Declaration of Independence, paying particular attention to the part that reads: <blockquote> "...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."</blockquote> rachel kinnardi –

You do know that this is AMERICA, right?

I advise you read the Constitution and Bill of Rights. You should also read the Declaration of Independence, paying particular attention to the part that reads:

“…But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

]]> By: Isle of Lucy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844283 Isle of Lucy Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:24:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844283 I should add - so kiss my subversive ass, bitch. I should add – so kiss my subversive ass, bitch.

]]> By: Isle of Lucy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844237 Isle of Lucy Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:18:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844237 Those the trollette dismisses as subversive and would lock away for thought-crimes are the true patriots and those of her ilk are the threat to America. This nation was founded on informed dissent and our founders made it explicitly clear that once the dynamic reversed, and the government failed to serve the people, demanding instead the service of the people, it is our <strong><em>duty</em></strong> to rise up and reject the traitorous government. They risked it all to give us a Republic. I am willign to risk it all to keep it. Those the trollette dismisses as subversive and would lock away for thought-crimes are the true patriots and those of her ilk are the threat to America.

This nation was founded on informed dissent and our founders made it explicitly clear that once the dynamic reversed, and the government failed to serve the people, demanding instead the service of the people, it is our duty to rise up and reject the traitorous government.

They risked it all to give us a Republic. I am willign to risk it all to keep it.

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-1844219 Raymond Funamoto Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:16:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/21/8th-helicopter-downed-in-iraq/#comment-1844219 This is proof positive that our troops don't have adequate resources or equipment to fight effectively in Iraq--THANK YOU CHIMPya, Torticola Cheney and Bushland Uber Allies for putting our brave American Servicemen and Women AT RISK by not providing them with the necessary tools or helicopters that are effective in combat situations--you cannot fight a war on the cheap by making a profit off of American lives to fill your and your cronies' coffers with war profiteering, and if you persist in doing so, you will face the consequences of being hauled before a KANGAROO COURT Military Tribunal of your own creation and sentenced to DEATH for your WAR CRIMES and CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND SERVICE PERSONNEL!!!!! This is proof positive that our troops don’t have adequate resources or equipment to fight effectively in Iraq–THANK YOU CHIMPya, Torticola Cheney and Bushland Uber Allies for putting our brave American Servicemen and Women AT RISK by not providing them with the necessary tools or helicopters that are effective in combat situations–you cannot fight a war on the cheap by making a profit off of American lives to fill your and your cronies’ coffers with war profiteering, and if you persist in doing so, you will face the consequences of being hauled before a KANGAROO COURT Military Tribunal of your own creation and sentenced to DEATH for your WAR CRIMES and CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND SERVICE PERSONNEL!!!!!

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