White House Stands Behind Cheney’s Attacks On Murtha And Pelosi
White House Stands Behind Cheney’s Attacks On Murtha And Pelosi
Yesterday, Vice President Cheney attacked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) for supporting Iraq redeployment:
CHENEY: I think, in fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we’ll do is validate the al Qaeda strategy. … I think that’s exactly the wrong course to go on. I think that’s the course of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack Murtha support. I think it would be a huge mistake for the country.
Q Is that policy that we hear from the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi — from other Democrats, is that a policy of defeat?
CHENEY: Yes.
Today, a reporter asked White House Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino about Cheney’s comments. She refused to disavow them:
QUESTION: Was he at all out of line in making those comments?
PERINO: The Vice President out of line? Absolutely not. He was questioning the merits of the — of their proposal.
It’s no surprise that President Bush supports Cheney’s attacks. In the lead-up to the 2006 elections, Bush’s message was that his opponents want “America to lose and the terrorists to win.” Watch it:
Transcript:
BUSH: However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this: The terrorists win and America loses.
[Snip]
BUSH: In all these vital measures for fighting the war on terror, the Democrats in Washington follow a simple philosophy: Just say no. When it comes to listening in on the terrorists, what’s the Democratic answer? Just say no. When it comes to detaining terrorists, what’s the Democrat answer?
AUDIENCE: Just say no!
BUSH: When it comes to questioning terrorists, what’s the Democrat answer?
AUDIENCE: Just say no!
BUSH: When it comes to trying terrorists, what’s the Democrat’s answer?
AUDIENCE: Just say no!
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Oversimplification is their real strong suit. That, and telling outright lies.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:02 pmWe have become a nations of idiots so I guess its proper to be led by one.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 pmWhat happened to "politics stops at the water's edge?"
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:04 pmI'll post this one more time, to prove the Wingnuts, Buch and Cheney wrong. Terrorists are a Republican's best friend:
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 pm
You can't run, but you can't hide Mr. Chimp.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 pmWhat happened to “politics stops at the water’s edge?â€
I do believe that went out the window when, lott, gingrich, frist, et al... told the US public that Bill Clinton was not their commander in chief.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmIf Nancy's really lucky, they'll decalre "war" on her, and send her a plane loaded with cash.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmMeanwhile, from our erstwhile British allies:
Britain's Prince Harry to serve in Iraq
Will the Bush and Cheney kids follow suit? Somehow, methinks not.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:11 pmLOL!! This is what the WH means being bi-partisan.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:11 pmAh, yes, Mr. Chainee, you are the expert on the strategies of terrorists........
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:16 pm#9 wlgriffi
We always knew this administration, and the republican, definition of bi-partisanship is that the opposing party agree with everything they say and support them in everything they do. The Democratic party, by having an independent opinion, is obviously being partisan.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:18 pm#1 - "Oversimplification is their real strong suit. That, and telling outright lies."
Just like FDR. (I do think FDR told a "noble" lie - America's industrial might was needed by Britain and Europe - and the isolationist Left, Right and Center did not want to get into WWII. The "lie" was necessary to defeat Adolph Hitler.)
You might want to lose the sanctimony.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:18 pm#3 - "What happened to “politics stops at the water’s edge?â€"
For Democrats, THAT went out the window with the treasonous Jimmy Carter.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:20 pmJust like FDR.
You might want to lose the sanctimony.
Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
So Pearl Harbor was a lie, and the Japanese didn't do it?
You might want to lose the sanctimony mighty aprhodite, at your weight class you barely have one leg to stand on.
The outright lies come from you, and your side. No WMDs, no Threats to america, just good old AIPAC pushing to destroy saddam because he sent money to widows and mothers orphaned. Wonder if the families of dead Israeli soldiers feel like their pension and government payout is terrorist blood money? By your standards they are - oh wait, you only have double standards.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:22 pmPERINO: The Vice President out of line? Absolutely not.
but, really, what else would anyone expect her to say???
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 pmof course "She refused to disavow" darth's comments...
jeez, the whole of government is scared silly of these criminals...
well, most...
Well, Bush & Cheney are liars and idiots, so what else do you expect from them?
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 pmFor Democrats, THAT went out the window with the treasonous Jimmy Carter. Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
The treason was Reagan that negotiated illegally with Iranian terrorists, and funded illegal wars in Central America in violation of the Constitution.
Baseless smears, is that all you've got twiggy? Eat something Anorexia girl, your arguments and smears are even thinner than usual.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pmThis is a clear sign of desperation.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pmWhen it comes to Human Rights, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the Rule of Law, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the Geneva Conventions, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the United States Constitution, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the balance of powers, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to Ethics Reform, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the Minimum Wage, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to funding medical care for wounded soldiers and vets, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to investigating who committed the acts on 9/11, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to investigating fraud in the government, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to investigating who authorized the leak of Valerie Plame's identity, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to telling the truth, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to accepting responsibility, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting the troops in harm's way, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to saving lives through stem-cell research, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to compasionate treatment of cancer victims through the use of medical marijuana, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting minors from sexual predators, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting the environment, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting natural resources, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting worker's rights, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to helping the weakest members of society, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING PEACEFUL RESOLUTIONS TO CONFLICTS, REPUBLICANS JUST SAY NO!
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pmValiant Venus, you still have explained why your GOP is funded by terrorists? Does it shame you to have so much in common with your enemy that they'd fund you? Or are you as shameless as always?
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pmV V,
Remember when FDR preemptively declared war on Japan....me neither.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pmWhen it comes to voter ID programs and vote suppression, a new study has found that Republican tactics have been quite successful, indeed.
For the details, see:
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pm"Study: Voter ID Programs Suppress Turnout."
And, oh, before we forget, Al Kayda's stategy had nothing to do with Iraq until the traitorous Chainee aided and abetted them by sending American forces and resources into harms way.....
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:26 pmAt what point can Cheney accept he's been defeated by Sistani
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:26 pm14 - all the vituperative vulva (fka MA) has is her sanctimony, like the rest of her kind.
The old pendulum is a-swingin though, and neither she nor any of the rest can stop it from swinging away from them for a good long time. Now that the lumpen masses are catching on, there's no stopping it - it's Sociology in action.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmEVERYONE in a position of leadership in the international community...
...knew that Saddam Hussein had NO intercontinental ballistic missiles...
...no possible means to deliver ANY kind of a payload to the U.S. mainland...
...nuclear, chemical or otherwise...
...They knew that saddam Hussein was a toothless tiger...
...weakened by decades of economic, military, and political sanctions...
...No-fly zones north and south, weapons inspectors (don't tell me Saddam wasn't cooperating because I distinctly remember Bushiva telling the weapons inspectors that they had to LEAVE Iraq just before we attacked)...
...for crying out loud there were brave, principled human beings who traveled to Iraq to become HUMAN SHIELDS in an effort to stop the needless carnage that they knew was coming!
...had saddam hussein in a box...
...the oil-for-food "scandal" did NOTHING to enhance Saddam's military capabilities...
...this all means what?
...There are innocent iraqis dying from mainly U.S. soldiers, using U.S. taxpayer funded weaponry...
...therefore we are (all U.S. taxpaying citizens) responsible for mass murder, and exporting terrorism to a country and people who DIDN"T ask us to "liberate" them...
...the demons in the White(man's) House are condemning us all...
...and I'm sick and tired of all the right wing fascist, inbred, unAmerican, conned-self-servative, Bushite TRAITORS lying and deluding themselves daily...
...to try and salvage these criminals' (Bushiva, L'il dick et al's) legacy, and justify their STUPID votes for these incompetent, corrupt basta*ds...
...unless we redeem ourselves, America will NEVER be great OR united again...
...nor should she unless we:
INVESTIGATE
IMPEACH
INCARCERATE
IMPOVERISH
BUSHIVA AND HIS CRIMINAL CO-CONSPIRATORS...
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmIt bears repeating that Dubbie is a New England prep-schooled cheerleader.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 pmConsidering how dead-wrong Cheney has been on everything, I'd say anything he strongly disagrees with might prove to be very promising.
Notice how the wuss, Cheney only attacks when he is out of the country. As if he is misfiring from a hunting blind.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 pmIn 2005, Mohamed ElBaradei was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his outstanding work in the international control of nuclear weapons. In 2003, ElBaradei had proposed a verifiable ban on the production of weapons-grade fissile material – a positive move that would severely limit the proliferation of nuclear weapons. one and only one nation voted against ElBaradei's proposal – George Bush's America. 179 nations voted in favor of his proposal.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmWe all nearly had a world with NO nuclear weapons there is only one person in the whole world who vetos the vote
Anyone still listening and/or believing anything this corrupt administration is saying deserves them.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmfor a gay impotent sociopath, ol' shooter has a lot of bitches doesn't he?
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmThey real sad part about this clip is this, the people responding with "Just say no." Some americans are so F****** STUPID!!!!
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmYou might want to lose the sanctimony.
Comment by valiant venus
You first...
Isn't it time for a smoke?
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmWHEN IT COMES TO FINDING PEACEFUL RESOLUTIONS TO CONFLICTS, REPUBLICANS JUST SAY NO!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Great list, Briseadh na Faire.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmWhen it comes to the deaths of American service men and women -
democrats say "just say No"
When I comes to the deaths of 650,000 inncocent iraq deaths
democrats say "just say No"
when your offered free Republican heroin - Just say NO
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmValiant Venus morphs into rachel kinnardi in 3, 2, 1....
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmTom - For your reading pleasure,
FDR looked for a way to get us into WWII to assist the British. Check out the precursor Lend/Lease program. In addition, the Roosevelt administration was aware of circumatances leading to US involvement.
“John T. Flynn (liberal journalist who wrote for the Nation and New Republic) labored mightily to avert that disaster, joining with others – conservatives, mostly, and nascent libertarians – in the antiwar America First Committee, writing, speaking, rallying and lobbying to stop FDR’s drive to war….He wrote two scathing pamphlets, The Truth About Pearl Harbor (1944) and The Final Secret of Pearl Harbor (1945), that raised the question for the first time: did FDR have advance warning of the Pearl Harbor catastrophe?….Flynn makes the case that FDR had every reason to expect the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor, that he ignored the advice of his generals, and that he deliberately bottled up the fleet there. ….Originally a supporter of the President, Flynn became one of FDR’s bitterest, most relentless critics: his book, Country Squire in the White House, so enraged its subject that FDR wrote to one editor, at the Yale Review, demanding that Flynn be “forever barred†from the pages of the “respectable†media. Flynn’s 1948 book, The Roosevelt Myth, is the definitive study of Roosevelt the opportunist and autocrat; Flynn’s 1944 volume, As We Go Marching, cited the fascist proclivities of the New Deal in wartime.â€
(from http://www.antiwar.com)
Maybe you should broaden your scope.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmIs Cheney betting on Economic Collapse?
Deficits do matter and Cheney has invested his money accordingly. Cheney also does not think trade debt is a big issue. If VP Cheney is so bullish on the economy why is betting his investments against our economy?
ICH-Wouldn’t you like to know where Dick Cheney puts his money? Then you’d know whether his “deficits don’t matter†claim is just baloney or not.
Well, as it turns out, Kiplinger Magazine ran an article based on Cheney’s financial disclosure statement and, sure enough, found out that the VP is lying to the American people for the umpteenth time. Deficits do matter and Cheney has invested his money accordingly.
The article is called “Cheney’s betting on bad news†and provides an account of where Cheney has socked away more than $25 million. While the figures may be estimates, the investments are not. According to Tom Blackburn of the Palm Beach Post, Cheney has invested heavily in “a fund that specializes in short-term municipal bonds, a tax-exempt money market fund and an inflation protected securities fund. The first two hold up if interest rates rise with inflation. The third is protected against inflation.â€
Cheney has dumped another (estimated) $10 to $25 million in a European bond fund which tells us that he is counting on a steadily weakening dollar. So, while working class Americans are loosing ground to inflation and rising energy costs, Darth Cheney will be enhancing his wealth in “Old Europeâ€. As Blackburn sagely notes, “Not all ‘bad news’ is bad for everybody.â€
This should put to rest once and for all the foolish notion that the “Bush Economic Plan†is anything more than a scam aimed at looting the public till. The whole deal is intended to shift the nation’s wealth from one class to another. It’s also clear that Bush-Cheney couldn’t have carried this off without the tacit approval of the thieves at the Federal Reserve who engineered the low-interest rate boondoggle to put the American people to sleep while they picked their pockets.
Reasonable people can dispute that Bush is “intentionally†skewering the dollar with his lavish tax cuts, but how does that explain Cheney’s portfolio?
It doesn’t. And, one thing we can say with metaphysical certainty is that the miserly Cheney would never plunk his money into an investment that wasn’t a sure thing. If Cheney is counting on the dollar tanking and interest rates going up, then, by Gawd, that’s what’ll happen.
The Bush-Cheney team has racked up another $3 trillion in debt in just 6 years. The US national debt now stands at $8.4 trillion dollars while the trade deficit has ballooned to $800 billion nearly 7% of GDP.
This is lunacy. No country, however powerful, can maintain these staggering numbers. The country is in hock up to its neck and has to borrow $2.5 billion per day just to stay above water. Presently, the Fed is expanding the money supply and buying back its own treasuries to hide the hemorrhaging from the public. Its utter madness.
Last month the trade deficit climbed to $70 billion. More importantly, foreign central banks only purchased a meager $47 billion in treasuries to shore up our ravenous appetite for cheap junk from China.
Do the math! They’re not investing in America anymore. They are decreasing their stockpiles of dollars. We’re sinking fast and Cheney and his pals are manning the lifeboats while the public is diverted with gay marriage amendments and “American Celebrityâ€.
The American manufacturing sector has been hollowed out by cutthroat corporations who’ve abandoned their country to make a fast-buck in China or Mexico. The $3 trillion housing (equity) bubble is quickly loosing air while the anemic dollar continues to sag. All the signs indicate that the economy is slowing at the same time that energy prices continue to rise.
This is the onset of stagflation; the dreaded combo of a slowing economy and inflation.
Did Americans really think they’d be spared the same type of economic colonization that has been applied throughout the developing world under the rubric of “neoliberalism�
Well, think again. The American economy is barrel-rolling towards earth and there are only enough parachutes for Cheney and the gang.
The country has lost 3 million jobs from outsourcing since Bush took office; more than 200,000 of those are the high-paying, high-tech jobs that are the life’s-blood of every economy.
Consider this from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) June edition of Foreign Affairs, the Bible of globalists and plutocrats:
“Between 2000 and 2003 alone, foreign firms built 60,000manufacturing plants in China. European chemical companies, Japanese carmakers, and US industrial conglomerates are all building factories in China to supply export markets around the world. Similarly, banks, insurance companies, professional-service firms, and IT companies are building R&D and service centers in India to support employees, customers, and production worldwide.†(“The Globally integrated Enterprise†Samuel Palmisano, Foreign Affairs page 130)
“60,000manufacturing plants†in 3 years?!?
“Banks, insurance companies, professional-service firms, and IT companies�
No job is safe. American elites and corporate tycoons are loading the boats and heading for foreign shores. The only thing they’re leaving behind is the insurmountable debt that will be shackled to our children into perpetuity and the carefully arranged levers of a modern police-surveillance state.
Welcome to Bush’s 21st Century gulag; third world luxury in a Guantanamo-type setting.
Take another look at Cheney’s investment strategy; it tells the whole ugly story. Interest rates are going up, the middle class is going down, and the poor dollar is headed for the dumpster. The country is not simply teetering on the brink of financial collapse; it is being thrust headfirst by the blackguards in office and their satrapies at Federal Reserve.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:51 pm36. Valiant Venus morphs into rachel kinnardi in 3, 2, 1….
Comment by VerbalKint
*shiver*
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmoh WAA!!! Dial 1-800-cry-baby ext waa. Cheney has as much right to his opinion as Pelosi and crew do. Whine all you want, but Cheney has as much right to his opinion as ANYONE in these United States has.
and #19, there are so many inaccuracies in your diatribe that I really find it more humourous than informative.
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmComment by John Konop #38
Good lookin' out John...
...hope you post this one across the web...
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmVile Venus,
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmIt's well known that Neosluts want to unno the New Deal.
Your FDR diatribe is proof.
Isn't it you folks that determined America needed a 'New Pearl Harbor'?
I thought so.
By the way, how did it feel to have The Brady Bunch kick your butts in San Diego?
I thought so.
Get ready for the same whupp'n, girl. Only this time it's '08 & the weak
candidates the Repulsicans offer up is even weaker than '06!
Piddles,
Why do Republicans get away with lying us into wars for oil?
Becase we LET THE REPUBLICANS LIE TO US! Over, and over , and over again.
Nobody has held Pres. Bush responsible for ANYTHING he has done.
Not.
One.
THING!
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmjust to get us back on track i'm going to cut and paste this whole wonderful list by Briz:
When it comes to Human Rights, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the Rule of Law, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the Geneva Conventions, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the United States Constitution, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the balance of powers, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to Ethics Reform, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to the Minimum Wage, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to funding medical care for wounded soldiers and vets, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to investigating who committed the acts on 9/11, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to investigating fraud in the government, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to investigating who authorized the leak of Valerie Plame’s identity, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to telling the truth, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to accepting responsibility, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting the troops in harm’s way, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to saving lives through stem-cell research, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to compasionate treatment of cancer victims through the use of medical marijuana, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting minors from sexual predators, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting the environment, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting natural resources, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to protecting worker’s rights, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
When it comes to helping the weakest members of society, Republicans JUST SAY NO!
WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING PEACEFUL RESOLUTIONS TO CONFLICTS, REPUBLICANS JUST SAY NO!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 pm40. DOug
but only fools like you are actually listening to Cheney with reverence...
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:58 pmDobbs: Will the Democrats save their souls?
February 21st, 2007 by JohnKonop
Does Corporate America and Wall Street own the front runners in both parties? Have both parties lost their soul?
NEW YORK (CNN) – The battle for the soul of the Democratic Party is under way. And the outcome of this battle will likely not be determined by any one of the rising number of candidates for the party’s 2008 presidential nomination, but rather by the Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill.
The House of Representatives passed important legislation designed, at least politically, to focus on the needs of our middle class, beset by stagnating wages, failing public education, destructive so-called free trade policies, skyrocketing health care costs, out-of-control illegal immigration and the soaring price of higher education.
So in Congress’ self-proclaimed first 100 hours, speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered on her promise to have the House pass bills raising the federal minimum wage, cutting interest rates on student loans and helping bring down the cost of prescription drugs. But none of that legislation has passed the Senate. Read the rest of this entry http://www.controlcongress.com
February 22nd, 2007 at 1:58 pm"if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we’ll do is validate the al Qaeda strategy"
Nah, Bush / Cheney validated Al Queda's strategy when they took the 9/11 bombing and responded as they did. As long as Al Queda can count on the US to respond to an attack by "lashing out" militarily then they know how they can ultimately win.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmThose poor Democrats. I wonder how Nader would have reacted if he was in the Democrat shoes.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:03 pm#45, who said I listened? You show an amazing lack of comprehension to my post. All i said was WAA!!! He has a right to speak just like every citizen of these United States. Just like YOU and I! You can be as upset over his comments as you want, quite frankly I could care less what he says, I can think for myself. I simply say, he has as MUCH RIGHT to speak his mind as Pelosi, and everyone here. You dont have to like it or agree with it, but I support his RIGHT to say it.
#44, you could just as easily replace the word republicans with the word democrats and be just as correct.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:08 pmComment by Ytterbius
You're 100% right on there. Al Qeada has become the tail that wags the dog.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmThose poor Democrats. I wonder how Nader would have reacted if he was in the Democrat shoes.
Comment by Abby — February 22, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
please explain...
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:13 pmThe thing that bothers me the most about these constant barrages from the Bush administration is that the Democrats still haven't figured out how to deal effectively with them.
Until they do, they're going to keep going down this road.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:20 pm#47 - Look into binLaden's own words. Following the biggest blunder of the Reagan administration (pulling out of Beirut), AlQueda leaders noted the lack of "stomach" of America. I'd say the progressive/Pelosi stance validates binLaden's opinion. Maybe, Nancy Pelosi is not rooting for an enemy victory- perhaps she's a hapless dupe - but she is aiding the enemy nonetheless.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:22 pm#43 - "Why do Republicans get away with lying us into wars for oil?"
DemSold - As oil is vital to our national economic life, your simplistic question is just....silly. Hopefully, we can rid our selves of such dependence, but for NOW, we need the organic goo. What do you put in your car? Got those solar panels and whindmills cranked up?
(Did I miss your defense of FDR's "noble" lie? Just asking.)
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmIf they're talking about AlQaeda's strategy to bog us down in an illegal occupation, sucking the life and cash out of our pockets in a protracted war of attrition, then Bush's ongoing failures fit that perfectly.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmbut she is aiding the enemy nonetheless.
Comment by valiant venus
but not that like terrorist guy giving money to the GOP, right?
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmOr was it viceversa? OOps.
#53 Valiant Venus
Simple reply to a stupid post. Bullshit.
She is NOT aiding the enemy in any way shape or form.
Bush and Cheney have done much more to aid terrorists worldwide.
War in Iraq.
Constant stupid comments. Little things such as the US being on another "crusade". Islamofascists. And the list goes on.
Constant idea that terrorists and anyone associated with Islam are one in the same.
This administration has done more to INFLAME terrorists than anyone else.
At the same time, they have alienated more of America's supporters than any previous administration.
After 9/11 the US had the sympathy of the world on it's side. Because of Bush/Cheney the US has not only lost that sympathy but created sympathy for those that we need to fight.
Aiding the enemy. Want to say that so we can take you to court for slander?
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmTell you what Juan, when traitorous cutthroat Republican donors come close to the amount of money Dem cutthroats do - you might have an argument. Dems had to search high and low for that ONE pig. The Dem barnyard is full of them.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmBush and Al Queda NEED one another. One would not be where they are now without the other.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmWhat do you put in your car? Got those solar panels and whindmills cranked up?
Comment by valiant venus
Tell us about your energy saving methods, Hagette. Are you taking public transportation? Do you own a car that gets 35 mpg or more? Are you walking to work? Are you recycling? Keeping the temps in your house down around 55? Conserving water? Cranking up the windmill?*
Do you hold yourself to the same high standards to hold the "progs" to?
*Commence lying in 3...2....1...
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmTell you what Juan, when traitorous cutthroat Republican donors come close to the amount of money Dem cutthroats do - you might have an argument. Dems had to search high and low for that ONE pig. The Dem barnyard is full of them. Comment by valiant venus
Proof or go back to the park and do your goddess-wannabe pose for the pigeons.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmSpeaker Pelosi tried to call Bush personally on this matter and he was "nat available". Read that to mean that he refused to take the call and refused to take a message to call back. So, of course, this is official Bush policy. They are staying the course on the message "you are either with us or you are with the terrorists". It is like November 2006 never happened.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:39 pmDear dog - Nan is perhaps unwittingly aiding the enemy. That's the problem - her unwittingness.
"This administration has done more to INFLAME terrorists than anyone else."
Please explain to the viewers what inflamed Koranimals before 9/11.....We're waiting.
"Want to say that so we can take you to court for slander?"
Fair comment on a matter of public interest, statements made with an honest belief in their truth on a matter of public interest (official acts) are defenses to a defamation claim.
(Psst....when the statement is in written form, the term is libel. Glad to be of assistance.)
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:43 pmDear dog - Nan is perhaps unwittingly aiding the enemy. That’s the problem - her unwittingness. Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Valiant venus is perhaps unwittingly aiding the enemy. That's her problem - her unwittingness.
Explains why the terrorists are funding her and the GOP doesn't it? Ironic isn't it valiant venus, how those terrorists seem to prefer the aid of the GOP? Unwitting indeed.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:51 pm#61 - From CommonDreams (a suitably liberal source):
"Increasingly disillusioned with more than five years of the "global war on terror", Arab- and Muslim-American voters are poised to vote heavily Democratic in the Nov. 7 mid-term elections, according to two polls released this week.
Strong majorities of Arab-American voters in four key states -- Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida -- intend to vote for the Democratic candidates for senator, according to a survey released Wednesday by the Arab American Institute (AAI).
The same survey, in which Muslims were identified from voting records by common names prevalent among Muslims and thus did not include converts who did not change their legal names, also found widespread disapproval of the U.S. policies toward the Islamic world.
Seven in 10 respondents agreed with the statement, "A just resolution to the Palestinian cause would improve America's standing in the Muslim world;" two-thirds said they were in favor of "working toward normalisation of relations with Iran"; and 55 percent agreed with the assertion that "The war on terror has become a war on Islam."
I wonder if the Muslim-Americans who generously support questionable Islamic charities are sending money to the Republicans? Hmmm...you think?
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pm#63
As you recognize, I said, "This administration has done more to INFLAME terrorists . . ."
You then go on to ask me about things prior to 9/11. Who mentioned anything about the situation prior to 9/11? Prior to 9/11, the administration wasn't concerned about terrorists.
By their actions, words, and in some cases inactions, this administration has created more terrorists than existed before. Care to refute that?
Pelosi and unwittingly. Let's not even go there! When you have a President that doesn't understand the implications of opening his mouth you have a major problem. My examples above are only the tip of that mountain.
Thanks for the clarification of libel versus slander. I'll keep that in mind while we're in court.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmPlease explain to the viewers what inflamed Koranimals before 9/11…..We’re waiting. Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
The Toranimals keeping Palestinians in Concentration camps, and bombing their houses was a good start.
Please explain to the viewers why you Toranimals keep inflaming the Islamic world - could it be Zionism's desire for the messiah to come? Is that your version of the host of virgins waiting to pleasure you?
(Psst….when the statement is in written form, the term is libel. Glad to be of assistance.) Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Stop pretending to be an attorney, you're a 23 year old Anorexic commodities trader in San Diego. Just because you took a few poli sci classes, and read Ann Coulter's slanderous work, doesn't mean you know squat about law.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmThere you can hear a lot of overburdened idiotic republican parrots repeating the discourse of a monkey.
That was a real horror circus....
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:00 pmStrong majorities of Arab-American voters in four key states — Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida — intend to vote for the Democratic candidates for senator, according to a survey released Wednesday by the Arab American Institute (AAI). Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
Arab Americans are generally more liberal, that's why they're in America. This is no different than Jewish Americans that vote for Democrats 86% to 14%. The radical right wing extremist jews like yourself, and those that donated to the GOP and have to Terrorists are the ones that vote Republican.
That's right Anorexia babe, you have more in common with the terrorists than those law abiding Arab Americans or American Jews do! Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Terrorist.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe truth is not to be found on 'politically correct' (a mockable term in its own right) tv shows. Politicians and 'people' in the camp of the richest 1% of the world will never say anything about what really matters, and they will always lie about anything to keep the sheople from seeing how bad they're oppressing us. Economics should be a science to make this a world without waste, not a world without iPOD's, people are living here to make it comfortable for each other, they're not here for a full-on war between only them and the rest of the world, we should be helping one another, not putting each other down, but we can never get back up if we keep helping the powers that already be, since ages.... Now, when are we going to get revolution and anarchy on the voting ballot?! Democracy is for losers.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmI wonder if the Muslim-Americans who generously support questionable Islamic charities are sending money to the Republicans? Hmmm…you think? Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
Yes, that's why one of them was just arrested. Or did you miss that on your way jumping off the cliff, goddess of the insane, witless and eating disordered tramps.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:04 pm#47 - Look into binLaden’s own words.Comment by valiant venus — February 22, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
Follow your own advice Anorexia girl.
Ah, another lightweight argument, but the professional Anorexic blows away in the winds of facts!
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:07 pm*
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i forgot! this is VERY important...
a caller to randi rhodes yesterday suggested that EVERYONE call their REPS and GOVERNORS to have them claim their states' vets at reed and bring them HOME to their state to recuperate at various hospitals located in their state.
PASS IT ON!
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And Josh Bolton said Cheney's words were misinterpreted.
Lying bastards think they can hurl charges at anyone - for any reason on any issue - with impunity. They obviously believe their farts don't stink. The rest of us can barely stand occupying the same planet with them.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmGreat idea Katy. At least we can visit and make sure they're not getting warehoused like canned salmon.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmThe big guns are out. But they still can't shoot straight.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pm#52 Impeachment would be a good start.
I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "Impeachment: Not Just For BlowJobs Anymore!"
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmComment by Douglas G. #40
Please stop having sex with your parents and siblings...
...the earth is over-populated with your imbecilic genes as it is...
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 pm"...intercepted al-Qaeda communiqué that bin Laden’s terrorist band wants to keep U.S. soldiers bogged down in Iraq as the best way to maintain and expand al-Qaeda’s influence."
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus #72
...well you've got to admit...
...they (Jihadists) have had some excellent lessons taught in the art of guerilla warfare...
...provided by the most inept of commanders-in-grief...
...in a helluva classroom (Iraq)...
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmgreat - a threadjacking by fka MA -
newbies, please disregard the V.V. person, and we can get back to topics at hand. there is no fruit in the tree of her rhetoric, but there's plenty in her head.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmWe are going to be "validate the al Qaeda strategy" by passing a law that ways that our brave young men and women have to be fully trained, fully rested and fully equipped before we are willing to send them into Iraq to become cannon fodder? Oh my Mr. Chaney, what world do you live in. And how is this a policy of "defeat". Do you think it is a policy of "victory" to send in poorly trained, poorly rested and unequipped men and women to Iraq?
I think it's time that Chaney retire. He's obviously becoming senile.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmFacts are a little tough for you libs to swallow I guess.
Is there anyone, other than maybe the Iraqi terrorists themselves, who have more to gain if the US fails in Iraq than the Democratic party?
Simple truth is NO.....they are betting on US failure in hopes to regain the white house.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmFacts are a little tough for you libs to swallow I guess. Comment by NotALib — February 22, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
How would you know, you seem allergic to facts like the typical Conservative. We don't wish you to fail, you've already failed and are too cowardly to admit it. Those are the facts, you won't swallow.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmwow a cut-and-paste attack, the rebirth of MA, AND the sub-60 iq club all on one thread - what a treat.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmRachel obviously missed her damn meds today.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmGrackle, take them, take them all, the whole damn bottle.
Simple truth is NO…..they are betting on US failure in hopes to regain the white house.
Comment by NotALib
No, George Botch is doing a fine job ALL BY HIMSELF of making sure the Dems regain the White House!
You made your bed, now go be a loser in it.
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:15 pm"This new thread proves there is somebody at the helm at TP and they are allowing rachel to post her tripe, without removing it.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 22, 2007 @ 4:16 pm"
Is this how a liberal challenges statements made by someone they disagree with?
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:17 pmMike - I do it like this:
"Put up or shut up, you rightwing pussy coward."
do you like that better - hateful treasonous brownshirt bootlicker?
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:21 pmI'm also available for "liberal" beatdowns, if you're interested in that.
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:28 pm"“Put up or shut up, you rightwing pussy coward.â€
Comment by tom baker — February 22, 2007 @ 5:21 pm"
Put up what?
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:42 pmAnybody realize that Cheney made these statements right after he was exposed as a traitor to his country for the exposing of a CIA agent undercover. And if he is not a liar, why was he trying to subvert the truth about yellow cake? His comments are meant to take the spotlight off of his real crime. When will a Democrat, any Dem find the balls to call him on it? The Dems got the OK from the American public to throw these creeps out of office, but they still play their spineless, "I'm a good American patriot," game. They won't make a committment until they are definitely sure which way the wind is blowing. Pelosi says "I'm gonna tell your daddy" like Bush really gives a sh@t, why don't she call him what he is: a Traitor, she has the proof to back it up. This is not why I wanted the Dems in power.
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:43 pm"right after he was exposed as a traitor to his country for the exposing of a CIA agent undercover"
Who are you referring to?
"The Dems got the OK from the American public to throw these creeps out of office"
They did?
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:51 pmPut up what?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
When you have nothing, like you michael, this is a meaningless request.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmWho are you referring to?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
What rock, or who's skirt have you been living under, Vince P's?
They did?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Ignorance is no excuse michael, although it is your only defense.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmSo, you think that a conservative saying somebody else is a pedophile needs to be challenge. She is deranged and I guess you are going down the same drain.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:04 pm"When you have nothing, like you michael, this is a meaningless request.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — February 22, 2007 @ 6:00"
No valiant! I'm challenging you. Put up what?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:08 pm"What rock, or who’s skirt have you been living under, Vince P’s?
They did?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Ignorance is no excuse michael, although it is your only defense.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — February 22, 2007 @ 6:01"
As usual unable to answer my questions? They're really not that difficult.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:10 pm"She is deranged
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 22, 2007 @ 6:04 pm"
Why do you say that?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmNo valiant! I’m challenging you. Put up what?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
You are? Prove it. All I see is you whining about losing every debate.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:15 pmAs usual unable to answer my questions? They’re really not that difficult. Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
As usual unable to answer my questions (!) They are difficult though, they require a brain - so your apology for being able to answer them is accepted.
I'm glad I could teach you something again today michael, and I agree that you refuse to debate me.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmWhy do you say that?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
Yeah michael, Why do you say that?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:17 pmIs this how a liberal challenges statements made by someone they disagree with? Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Michael, is this how a conservative challenges statements made by someone they disagree with?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:18 pm"You are? Prove it. All I see is you whining about losing every debate"
"As usual unable to answer my questions (!) They are difficult though, they require a brain - so your apology for being able to answer them is accepted.
"I’m glad I could teach you something again today michael, and I agree that you refuse to debate me
"Yeah michael, Why do you say that?"
"Michael, is this how a conservative challenges statements made by someone they disagree with?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — February 22, 2007 @ 6:18 pm"
SO THERE YOU ARE FOLKS! 5 senseless responses to a couple of easy questions I asked. This doesn't surprise me coming from these people. Now, do you really expect others to think you are such a serious debater with childish answers like these?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmDo you not see what she posted? Do you think that calling somebody a pedophile is good debating skills?
Wow. She has actually apologized to me and we have called a truce and you are still defending what she clearly sees as being nonsense posted to make me mad.
You need help.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmMICHEAL READ CAREFULLY: D I C K CHAIN-EEEE EXPOSED A CIA AGENT, IN NOVEMBER WE HAD AN E-LEC-TION, THE PUBLIC VOT-ED THE KNEE- O- CONS OUT. PAY ATTENTION LITTLE BOY YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT POL-A-TIKS
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:38 pmSO THERE YOU ARE FOLKS! 5 senseless responses to a couple of easy questions I asked. This doesn’t surprise me coming from these people. Now, do you really expect others to think you are such a serious debater with childish answers like these? Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
SO THERE YOU ARE FOLKS! Another senseless response to a few questions I asked michael. This doesn't surprise me coming from these guys. Now, do you really expect others to think you are such a serious debater michael with childish answers like this?
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:25 pm"Do you not see what she posted? Do you think that calling somebody a pedophile is good debating skills?"
No I don't! But does that mean she is deranged?
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:26 pm"MICHEAL READ CAREFULLY: D I C K CHAIN-EEEE EXPOSED A CIA AGENT, IN NOVEMBER WE HAD AN E-LEC-TION, THE PUBLIC VOT-ED THE KNEE- O- CONS OUT. PAY ATTENTION LITTLE BOY YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT POL-A-TIKS
Comment by phillyfan — February 22, 2007 @ 6:38 pm"
It's obvious my challenge went right over your head! First off Cheney has not been found guilty of exposing anybody. Here is the quote again. Read it carefully?
"“right after he was exposed as a traitor to his country for the exposing of a CIA agent undercoverâ€
Undercover? Please, she was a desk jockey put out to pasture!
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:29 pmNo I don’t! But does that mean she is deranged?
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
You don't mean you are deranged, or you do mean you're deranged?
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:46 pmIt’s obvious my challenge went right over your head! Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
It's obvious my challenge went right over your head!
First off Cheney has not been found guilty of exposing anybody. Here is the quote again. Read it carefully? Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
Proven guilty? Neither has anyone that's in Gitmo, but you guys claim they're all guilty. So by your standards Cheney is guilty. Thanks for admitting it!
Undercover? Please, she was a desk jockey put out to pasture!
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
Prove it. Oh wait, you can't! That makes you a liar for stating something as fact that you can't prove! Speaking of desk jockeys put out to pasture, aren't you glad you never served in combat - pasture boy? Just imagine how insane you would have been with PSTD instead of your current Post Traumatic Deskjockey Disorder PTDD!!!
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:48 pma la michael:"...she was a desk jockey put out to pasture."
Sorry, mountain man, she was involved with determining nuclear weapons developement in the middle east, with a focus on Iran...
February 22nd, 2007 at 8:05 pmGuess Chainee had enough intelligence to go on, and didn't want anybody spoiling his foray into the next middle eastern country........
" Sorry, mountain man, she was involved with determining nuclear weapons developement in the middle east, with a focus on Iran…
Guess Chainee had enough intelligence to go on, and didn’t want anybody spoiling his foray into the next middle eastern country……..
Comment by Raven — February 22, 2007 @ 8:05 pm"
Maybe, but she WASN'T undercover!
February 22nd, 2007 at 8:37 pm"Proven guilty? Neither has anyone that’s in Gitmo, but you guys claim they’re all guilty. So by your standards Cheney is guilty. Thanks for admitting it!"
You're pretty stupid valiant? The animals at Gitmo are enemy combatants and are not entitled to anything! They're guilty of being stupid enough to get caught by our military.
"Prove it. Oh wait, you can’t! That makes you a liar for stating something as fact that you can’t prove! Speaking of desk jockeys put out to pasture, aren’t you glad you never served in combat - pasture boy? Just imagine how insane you would have been with PSTD instead of your current Post Traumatic Deskjockey Disorder PTDD!!!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — February 22, 2007 @ 7:48 pm"
When is the last time you posted something half way intelligent? I don't remember any of your posts dealing with facts or the topic of the post. You always have to resort to name calling and childish comments to mask your stupidity!
February 22nd, 2007 at 8:42 pmYou’re pretty stupid valiant? The animals at Gitmo are enemy combatants and are not entitled to anything! They’re guilty of being stupid enough to get caught by our military. Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
You're pretty stupid michael? The people in Gitmo haven't been charged with any crime, nor have they been convicted of anything. Based on your belief that being an animal is all that's need to be put away - I suggest you find a lock and put yourself behind it.
As for being stupid enough to get caught, so were Bush, and Cheney. They weren't charged, any more than the Gitmo people have. But they're guilty of getting caught, just the same.
Thanks for making yourself look like a fool, and losing another debate michael.
It's always fun embarrassing you.
When is the last time you posted something half way intelligent? Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
When is the last time you posted something half way intelligent, or grammatically congruent for that matter.
I don’t remember any of your posts dealing with facts or the topic of the post. Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
I don't remember any o fyour posts dealing with facts or the topic of the post.
You always have to resort to name calling and childish comments to mask your stupidity! Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
You always have to resort to name calling and childish comments to mask your stupidity!
See, you could have written this, and simply sent it to yourself and saved me the time, skippy ;) But I don't mind working with the 'handi-capable' like yourself. I find the work rewarding!
February 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmMaybe, but she WASN’T undercover!
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Prove it.
February 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmthey are betting on US failure in hopes to regain the white house.
Comment by NotALib
...fyi NotAble...
...Dems are trying to SAVE what's left of the US...
...your gods (Bushiva and L'il Dick) have already "failed"...
...and they did it with YOUR help...
February 22nd, 2007 at 9:35 pm"You’re pretty stupid michael? The people in Gitmo haven’t been charged with any crime, nor have they been convicted of anything. Based on your belief that being an animal is all that’s need to be put away"
That's right! They haven't been charged with any crime because they are enemy combatants! They should never be treated as ordinary criminals but as people who are seeking to overthrow the government of the USA. The fact that they do not represent a particular government does NOT entitle them to Geneva Convention treatment. They haven't been convicted of anything because there hasn't been a trial nor will there be because they are NOT entitled to one!
"As for being stupid enough to get caught, so were Bush, and Cheney."
Really? What were they caught at?
"Thanks for making yourself look like a fool, and losing another debate michael."
It's pretty hard to win a debate with stupid comebacks and rhetoric but if some of your friends here are in the same junior high grade as yourself, well then it might appear to them and yourself that your childish comments are taken seriously.
"See, you could have written this, and simply sent it to yourself and saved me the time, skippy ;) But I don’t mind working with the ‘handi-capable’ like yourself. I find the work rewarding!"
Reread my last comment and try growing up?
February 22nd, 2007 at 10:03 pm"Prove it.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — February 22, 2007 @ 9:05 pm"
Duh! She was sitting at a desk in Langley!
February 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 pm"…fyi NotAble…
…Dems are trying to SAVE what’s left of the US…"
By revealing our intelligence gathering methods?
"…your gods (Bushiva and L’il Dick) have already “failedâ€â€¦"
How?
February 22nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmDuh! She was sitting at a desk in Langley!
Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
Prove it. Prove that she wasn't undercover. You can't so you make unsubstantiated claims as usual.
February 22nd, 2007 at 10:43 pmBy revealing our intelligence gathering methods? Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
I didn't do that - so why do you lie michael?
Besides, it's a democracy, the government works for us - stupid schmuck. Intelligence gathered illegally, are inadmissible in court. Are you saying you don't want to put criminals in jail?
Come on michael, when are you going to start debate.
All you do is whine, and not back up your comments.
“…your gods (Bushiva and L’il Dick) have already “failedâ€â€¦â€
How? Comment by michael — February 22, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
It would be easier for you to list where they haven't failed.
I'm waiting, and will wait for a while I'm sure...
February 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 pmMichael can't debate, so he smears and lies. Come on michael, I'm waiting for you to debate something, instead of simply crying - wah, wah, like a cowardly desk jockey!!! What's wrong, feel guilty for not fighting in Vietnam - sicko?
February 22nd, 2007 at 10:47 pm"Prove it. Prove that she wasn’t undercover. You can’t so you make unsubstantiated claims as usual.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — February 22, 2007 @ 10:43 pm"
Try reading something about the story and stop displaying your stupidity for all to see.
February 22nd, 2007 at 11:15 pm"Come on michael, when are you going to start debate"
ANY TIME! Pick the subject?
February 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmIt's amazing how valient disappears when I accept her challenge!
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:29 ammichael's a 30% bushite cult member...
...he prays five times a day in front of a shrine he's erected in his little suburban livingroom...
...where he has small animal burnt offerings to his gods Bushiva and L'il Dick...
...there's no debating the brain/soul-dead...
February 23rd, 2007 at 10:47 amas a liberal who reads and learns from thinkprogress very often i want to say to any honest folks from the other side who may read this that I, at least, recognize that what cheney said in this particular instance was perfectly within acceptable political discourse. it was NOT a smear. i think he's mistaken, but i find pelosi's reaction embarrassing, as well as thinkprogress's way of reporting it, as well as the reactions of many people on my side.
that said, there's a reason for the overreaction: people from your side often smear us in just this way and it's disgusting. i just don't think it happened in this case.
one final thing: is it a policy of defeat? yes -- and so is any other policy -- because that's the only thing we've got now, thanks to the unsurpassable incompetence and corruption of this administration. the war is lost, whether anyone admits it now or not. bush started the war and then lost it. if you claim to be patriotic and still defend this man, you are lying to yourself in a deep way.
February 23rd, 2007 at 12:50 pmhttp://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:25 pmDear ruttiger - I agree - honest political discourse is intellectually invigorating. However, it seems you're mixing a couple of components in your argument. Patriotism is defined as "a love of country". I have no doubt a number of progressives love the US - but a huge number of posters here seem to blame and hate most ,if not everything, about the US.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:28 pm"Explains why the terrorists are funding her and the GOP doesn’t it? "
One?? (Well that is ONE too many!) I wonder how many Arabs send money to the Dems?? Do you think the number is almost as great as the number of Communist Chinese who contributed the Dem party?? (Apparently, Jason, math isn't your strong suit - but I did hear you were a terrific interior designer.)
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:37 pm[...] anybody even listen to Cheney’s rants [...]
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:58 pmCHIMPya: What do you say to Torticola Cheney and me, your "Decider in Thief?"
February 23rd, 2007 at 7:29 pmAudience: JUST SAY NO!
CHIMPya: What do you say to Cheney's and my surge strategy?
Audience: JUST SAY NO!
CHIMPya: What do you say to NOT impeaching Cheney and me?
Audience: JUST SAY NO!
CHIMPya: What do you say to giving Cheney and me a pardon?
Audience: JUST SAY NO!
CHIMPya: What do you say to NOT giving Cheney and me the death penalty?
Audience: JUST SAY NO, NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
The only folks validating the al Qaeda strategy are Cheney, Bush, et al. Bin Laden knew if he attacked America on W's watch he'd get the mayhem he so desired. But, I'll bet he never dreamed it'd be this good.
February 24th, 2007 at 9:14 amSorry to double-up on my posts, but having read about patriotism in someone's earlier post, here's my sincere take: I love my Country, but I hate the government. I love the Troops, but I hate the war.
February 24th, 2007 at 9:22 am[...] week, Vice President Cheney attacked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) for supporting Iraq redeployment. He [...]
February 25th, 2007 at 10:46 amOne criminal thug covering up for another - that's what this actually is.
March 1st, 2007 at 1:42 pmThere's a big shock, the WH stands behind smearing people. That's all the WH knows how to do really well. The sad thing is that 30% of Americans think that's what's important: smearing the opposition instead of paying attention to the issues.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 pmScotty: beam them up!
Looks like old belly-busting Grover has enough "belly" for it but can he dance? He can't even move in a coordinated fashion so I'd imagine his dancing skills to be non-existent. But even a moron can learn!
March 3rd, 2007 at 5:17 pm[...] off Vice President Cheney’s attack that redeploying U.S. forces out of Iraq would “validate the al Qaeda strategy.” “He didn’t blame me for at least getting the British out,” Murtha said. [...]
March 4th, 2007 at 11:26 am