Is Cheney next?
By on Feb 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Is Cheney next?
ABC’s The Blotter notes: If the jury finds Scooter Libby guilty, “it could spur investigators to explore further whether Cheney was involved in conspiring to obstruct justice.”
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Don’t tease…..
Heh.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:56 pmHave you ever heard of insect politics? Neither have I. Insects… don’t have politics. They’re very… brutal. No compassion, no compromise. We can’t trust the insect. Cheney is an insect politician.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmWe all hope so.
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmMaybe it could keep him from coming back to our country.
This A-hole need a serious bitch slap up against his head.
Let me put that another way…
This A-hole need a serious bitch slap up against his head.
Obstruction? What about conspiring to out a CIA operative, and thusly, the entire Brewster Jennings cover operation?
February 22nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmI will believe it when I see it.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmOf course, we can’t put the Vice-President on trial! Don’t those Democratic surrender-monkeys know there’s a war on???
Never mind that it’s not actually a war, since Congress never declared war. Never mind that the reason we’re in Iraq right now is because of ginned-up intelligence about nonexistent WMDs. Never mind that Cheney (allegedly) gave the order to out Wilson’s wife because he was shining a little too much light on their shadow play.
Never mind all that…it’s time to support our troops!
</snark>
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmSharpen up the knives, boys, time to carve up the fat bastard!
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmHow much money would it take to bribe the pilot of Air Force 1.5 to detour to the Hague?
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmWe can only hope that Cheney will be next he partook in a conspiracy to out an undercover CIA operative during a time of war. That is treason.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmDon’t EVEN go there (ABC)…
…the fix is in…
…they could give Libby a thousand years…
…and he’ll be out in as many days as it takes a full presidential pardon to through…
…in fact, he’ll be out on appeal when the pardon is issued…
…so he won’t do a minute…
…and Fitzgerald won’t have any leverage…
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmOnly if he’s found guilty? Hasn’t there been enough evidence already for another investigation? Maybe it was Fitzgerald’s plan all along: he knew the only way to get more info out of these guys was to have a trial.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmOn that note liberals all over America start praying and singin’ Hallelujah!
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmEver since it was disclosed that Rove received a draft of Novak’s column on July 11th I have been wondering about what activity took place in the 3 Days between when Rove got this draft and when the article appeared in the NYT.
Over at Firedoglake they point out 2 key events that happened during that window.
http://www.firedoglake.com/index.php?author=26
First, July 11th was the day Rove called Cooper and leaked to Cooper that Wilson’s wife was a CIA agent. Second, it was on July 12th that Ari told Walter Pincus of the Washington Post that Wilson’s wife was a CIA agent. Why is this important? Because the Bush Whitehouse wanted to make sure that “everybody” knew this prior to the Novak column being printed. Is there any wonder that Ari lawyered up right away and struck an immunity deal?
Cheney, through Libby, was driving this train. These acts were not to have these reporters to pass on the information (they didn’t) but to cover their ass should there be an investigation. Frankly, I think Judy Miller was the one they were trying hard to get to write the report, without knowing that the NYT had put her on a short leash, and got lucky when Armitage was sloppy with Novak.
My nose told me that those 3 days were important and this news shows just how important those 3 days are.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:27 pmChain-eye is an upstanding public servant and has never done anything illegal. How dare we even question the second man in charge.
/sarcasm
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmHell yes, the Libby trial will put Cheney’s tit in the wringer, and it won’t be easy to pull back out.
Anyone who followed the trial knows that the prosecution left no openings – that jury will come back with a guilty verdict. Then, with or without a pardon for Scooter, prosecutors will be able to put together a solid indictment of Dick, the bombshell effect of which will be the death knell of this radical regime, whether Cheney ever faces trial or not.
#12 – We won’t need any divine intervention – the constitution and our legal system, properly applied, are more than adequate for the task ahead. I say to you “Amen” nonetheless.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmFireDogLake kicks ass.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:32 pmWho ? Me?
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pmWith jury deliberations underway in the trial of Scooter Libby, Perrspectives has updated its CIA Leak/PlameGate Resource Center. The PlameGate document repository features all the latest Libby trial news, legal documents, timelines and other essential materials surrounding the Bush administration’s outing of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame and its politics of payback against Joseph Wilson.
For more, see:
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmThe CIA Leak/PlameGate Resource Center.
Hey, rachel:
If you really need to cut-n-paste your ridiculous nonsense, do you think you might be able to at least confine it to one thread?
Do you have even that much self-control?
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmhey shirley – that sounds like a lot of the stuff that Idaho militia nazis advocate too. Our KKK does too. Do you think we don’t have wackos right here at home? Do you think all Americans agree with the Wackos in Idaho and Alabama? Do you think it would be fair for someone in another country to look only at our wackos, and judge all of us by what the wackos among us say?
Wake your own self up, Shirley.
If you’re accusing me of supporting al Qaeda, then you can kiss my hairy ass.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmand if this is that rachel animal – goddamit TP get her in the f’ing pound!!
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmAwww C’mon it’s IOKIYAR!!
Besides obstruction of justice isn’t treason. It’s like when you give a police officer fake ID, or tell em you only had 2 beers when it was 8.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmIt’s like hunting, kinda, except no guns, but damn lawyers, lots of them.
#19 shirley mc whirley
I’d like to check out your website, Shirley, but I’m at work right now and the proxy server blocked it. Apparently, it’s considered to be “Non-Traditional Religions and Occult and Folklore”.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:49 pm#19
Instead of being “supporters†of Al Qaeda, now maybe you will join in the fight?
I’m not a supporter of al Qaeda. I may have pledged, but I haven’t sent in the check, yet.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pm#23 Richard Cranium
IOKIYAR
Sorry, I don’t have my acronym dictionary with me. Translation?
Besides obstruction of justice isn’t treason
It’s interfering with an investigation. It’s as serious as the matter being investigated. If the act being investigated is treasonous, then obstructing that investigation is just as bad.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:57 pm#26 – chimpeach
IOKIYAR – It’s ok if you’re a republican.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:01 pmRACHEL,
For f*ck’s sake, not on every thread!
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:02 pm“it could spur investigators to explore further whether Cheney was involved in conspiring to obstruct justice.â€
Uh, don’t anyone hold their breath on this one. Fitzgerald has known all this stuff all along, and he doen’t need a conviction to make the case against Cheney: just a pair of balls.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmFor my escapist summer reading at the beach this week, I’ve been flipping through Sean Hannity’s fabulous new book, “Let Freedom Ring.†It’s a fine book, with many excellent illustrations.
Hannity can’t draw. He can read cards and monitor type thingies tho’
Rachel Whirley, Dear, True Love…Why?
Why would I want to read what Hannity scribbled (or likely didn’t write) Heck everyone knows that Ring is spellt Reign, just ask George, he sure did with, his marker. “Let Freedom Reign”
See, look, Hannity doesn’t even know how to spell rain fer krissakes.
Jeebus in a Sauna, why you sweating the choir?
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmI’ve been saying since 2005 that Cheney will “retire” and be replaced with John McCain (who sold his soul in exchange for Bush’s endorsement and campaign machine for 2008). And with the leaving of Rumsfeld, rumblings in the Libby trial, and now Giulliani leading McCain in recent polls, this is starting to look more and more likely.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:29 pmDick Cheney is a war criminal from the first water.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:38 pmHe should be made an example of.
I heard rumors that Fitzgerald may have Libby flip on Cheney.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:39 pm#32 Mugsy
I’ve been saying since 2005 that Cheney will “retire†and be replaced with John McCain
It’s not that unlikely, but the Republicans would risk trading a senate seat for the mere chance at shoehorning McCain into the White House. I don’t know what the Arizona constitution does about filling vacated U.S. senate seats, but, if it makes any difference, the governor is a Democrat.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:41 pmMugsy, that may be so, but who will run the damn “show” if the boss leaves?
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:42 pm#31 – Mugsy,
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:43 pmReplacing Cheney with McCain would probably be an example of actually going down hill. I mean that in the military sense, not skiing.
Rachel obviously missed her damn meds today.
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:52 pmGrackle, take them, take them all, the whole damn bottle.
Joe Wilson – June 14, 2003
“The real agenda in all of this of course, was to redraw the political map of the Middle East. Now that is code, whether you like it or not, but it is code for putting into place the strategy memorandum that was done by Richard Perle and his study group in the mid-90’s which was called, “A Clean Break – A New Strategy for the Realm.” And what it is, cut to the quick, is if you take out some of these countries, some of these governments that are antagonistic to Israel then you provide the Israeli government with greater wherewithal to impose its terms and conditions upon the Palestinian people, whatever those terms and conditions might be. In other words, the road to peace in the Middle East goes through Baghdad and Damascus. Maybe Tehran. And maybe Cairo and maybe Tripoli if these guys actually have their way. Rather than going through Jerusalem.”
19:46: http://next.epic-usa.org/epicdev2/_media/2003forumaudio/28-lecture-wilson-32.mp3
“On the other ones, the geopolitical situation, I think there are a number of issues at play; there’s a number of competing agendas. One is the remaking of the map of the Middle East for Israeli security, and my fear is that when it becomes increasingly apparent that this was all done to make Sharon’s life easier and that American soldiers are dying in order to enable Sharon to impose his terms upon the Palestinians that people will wonder why it is American boys and girls are dying for Israel and that will undercut a strategic relationship and a moral obligation that we’ve had towards Israel for 55 years. I think it’s a terribly flawed strategy.”
13:33: http://next.epic-usa.org/epicdev2/_media/2003forumaudio/29-lecture-qa-32.mp3
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:20 pmPoor “shirley”. Cheney’s about to be indicted and her head’s about to explode. Can’t blame her, really. The cognitive dissonance required to be a Bush supporter must be getting more and more brutal.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmIf the leak of Valerie Plame was so serious, does anyone here ever wonder why no one holds Richard Armitage, the one who really leaked Plame, to account? My answer, in case you don’t want think about it, is that the leak of Plame only became a big deal because of the portential to damage the administration. Armitage doesn’t fit the adgenda. Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney, definitely do.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:09 pmPaul, do you remember the 90’s. What do you think would have happened if it were reported in the Washington Post that the VP Gore had authorized the public naming of a secret CIA asset which was deeply involved in tracking the proliferation of illegal nuclear weapons? Do you think Gore would have been in trouble for that?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmPaul, one of the articles of impeachment for Nixon which was written up dealt with “using or subverting intelligence apparatus for political purposes.” Do you think the Plame affair falls into this catagory?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 pmPaul, Bush told the American people that if anyone in his administration were involved, they would be in his administration anymore. We now know that at least 10 people from the Bush administration were involved, but Bush hasn’t fired them. Paul, would you say that Bush in that instance lied to the American people?
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:50 pmThe Plame leak was so serious that all the fallout has yet to hit the ground – big chunks are still up there. Someone may be trying to pinch hit Armitage as fall guy, but it goes, and will go, way past him.
The important part to Republicans is that the whole sordid affair, combined with other real-world events, have reduced their credibility to fatal levels.
Leave it to Paul to poo-poo something critically important to our real National Security.
What should we be concerned with, Paul, that out-of-control teachers’ union?
sheesh. i was taken in a time or two by your opie griffith style unassuming niceguy packaging, but the contents are clearly the same tired old kind of dittohead.
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:46 pmImagine what a joyous event if justice actually prevailed concerning Cheney and Bush. The majority of America knows this will not happen – Bush will someday go live in Paraguay and Cheney will enjoy his Halliburton earnings.
February 22nd, 2007 at 8:52 pm#39 paul
My answer, in case you don’t want think about it, is that the leak of Plame only became a big deal because of the portential to damage the administration. Armitage doesn’t fit the adgenda. Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney, definitely do.
Think about that one a little harder. The leak of Plame became a big deal because the CIA said it’s a big deal when a covert agent’s cover is blown. The CIA had reason to believe a crime had been committed. That’s why they called for an investigation. In the course of the investigation, some of the people questioned were believed to have lied to the FBI and the grand jury. At that point, as Fitzgerald so aptly explained, the investigation couldn’t continue until the obstruction posed by false testimony had been cleared. The trial is not about the original investigation. It’s about a person who obstructed that investigation. Once the obstruction has cleared and facts are established, the original investigation can continue.
Armitage was not the one who was trying to shut Wilson up or make him look bad. Armitage wasn’t out there lying about Wilson, accusing Wilson of lying when he did nothing of the kind. That was Rove, Libby, Cheney, Matalin, and a whole host of others. If you’re having trouble following the case, there will be transcripts. And the prosecutor has a website with documents for you to read. You really should try to focus on what the trial is about if you’re going to comment on it.
February 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 pmUnfortunately everybody in DC is too scared of Cheney to take him down. Must be because he has the dirt on everybody in DC.
February 23rd, 2007 at 1:22 amre#39 paul & #45 chimpeach
Richard Armitage should be punished for outing Plame, along with
Cheney, Libby and Rove.
Because Armitage did not do it for spite, changes nothing.
We know none of these guys can be trusted with security clearance, therefore it should be revoked for all of them.
February 23rd, 2007 at 10:43 am“TORTICOLA CHENEY!!!!!
February 23rd, 2007 at 7:09 pmSlooooowly I Turned, Step By Step, Inch by Inch.
Then I Leapt Upon Him, Grabbed Him By the Throat,
Knocked his glasses off his face, Poked him in the eyes,
Slapped his twisted crook-mouth, Punched him in the Nose,
Smashed his face in, Shook him by the neck unti his teeth rattled
in his head…
Sorry my friend, everytime I hear that name I GO BERSERK!!!!!”
“WHAT NAME? TORTICOLA CHENEY?”
Sloooowly I turned…
[...] Cheney has played a central role in the lead-up to, and prosecution of, the Iraq war. [...]
February 25th, 2007 at 5:51 amAss Tight Ass Ass Worship
I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view
April 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pmNext Supreme Court Justice To Retire
This article sounds well, but how everything is related together?
April 5th, 2008 at 8:35 amJessie
Nice article, thanks ;)
April 10th, 2008 at 12:28 pm