Comments on: Cheney in 1991: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:14:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-2/#comment-1917385 majdvmphd Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:54:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1917385 A "concerned citizen" might be a bit more concerned about the threat of Islamofascism, ushered in by the unelected 4th party of government, the ACLU. A “concerned citizen” might be a bit more concerned about the threat of Islamofascism, ushered in by the unelected 4th party of government, the ACLU.

]]> By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-2/#comment-1917217 majdvmphd Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:18:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1917217 Check under my bed for what, your left wing conspiracy theories? Typical hit-and-run Neo-Com comment with no substance to it. Just a grammar school comeback talking point. don't enter a battle of wits unarmed, Comrade. Check under my bed for what, your left wing conspiracy theories? Typical hit-and-run Neo-Com comment with no substance to it. Just a grammar school comeback talking point. don’t enter a battle of wits unarmed, Comrade.

]]> By: Canuckistanian http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-2/#comment-1910658 Canuckistanian Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:52:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1910658 majdvmphd- better check under your bed tonight.... Just a concerned citizen. majdvmphd- better check under your bed tonight….

Just a concerned citizen.

]]> By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-2/#comment-1909852 majdvmphd Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:49:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1909852 Welll, far be it from me to not admit when I'm wrong about something. That said, the context of Cheney's statement needs to be looked at. Most importantly, this is NOT 1991. This is a world post-9-11, a world you're still not living in. Parameters and stakes have changed dramatically, but you're still living in a Jimmy Carter post-Vietnam appeasement alternative reality. In 1991, in the first Gulf War, Bush Senior didn't want to go into Baghdad and take out the Saddam regime because of the instability he knew it would cause between factions of the population (Sunni, Shia, Kurds). After 9-11, with Saddam still thumbing his nose at 17 U.N. resolutions and firing on our planes in the no-fly zone, still paying Palestinian families $25K for homicide bombings, still training Al Qaeda within his borders after his collaboration with Ramzi Yousef in the 1993 WTC bombing and Iraqi Intel meeting with Mohammed Atta in Prague, still funding Abu Saef in the Philippines, we HAD to take him out, even though the ensuing civil strife was predictable. Welll, far be it from me to not admit when I’m wrong about something. That said, the context of Cheney’s statement needs to be looked at. Most importantly, this is NOT 1991. This is a world post-9-11, a world you’re still not living in. Parameters and stakes have changed dramatically, but you’re still living in a Jimmy Carter post-Vietnam appeasement alternative reality. In 1991, in the first Gulf War, Bush Senior didn’t want to go into Baghdad and take out the Saddam regime because of the instability he knew it would cause between factions of the population (Sunni, Shia, Kurds). After 9-11, with Saddam still thumbing his nose at 17 U.N. resolutions and firing on our planes in the no-fly zone, still paying Palestinian families $25K for homicide bombings, still training Al Qaeda within his borders after his collaboration with Ramzi Yousef in the 1993 WTC bombing and Iraqi Intel meeting with Mohammed Atta in Prague, still funding Abu Saef in the Philippines, we HAD to take him out, even though the ensuing civil strife was predictable.

]]> By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1904308 majdvmphd Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:47:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1904308 "L'il Bushie"? Listen to yourself. No, far from it. Democrat even through the 2000 election, but no more. It is no longer the party of hawks with conscience, of Roosevelt, Truman, JFK, Miller, Lieberman. Now, a party of wealth, racism, history revisionism, anti-JudaoChristian values, entitlement, and appeasment that tricks others into thinking the shoe is on the other foot. "Would that you could"? Precisely so. You can't. I checked the status of the world this morning, and we're still in Iraq, we're still in Afghanistan, we're still waging the War on Terror, and Bush and Cheney are still in office. LMFAO. Next will be Giuliani. The "Neo-Com" Dems are eating their own TWO YEARS before the election, like Christmas decorations on Labor Day. Try selfless service in the military before you make a mockery of yourself attempting to do so with others. If you all want the last word that's fine. I get the last laugh that you change nothing. I have a military and veterinary career and 3 children. I don't have time to attempt to change the minds of half-wits on a prolonged basis. You're beyond help in your blind nostalgia to a dead party and the MSM. Thanks, Val Kilmer, but you're more like a dingleberry, if you catch my drift. “L’il Bushie”? Listen to yourself. No, far from it. Democrat even through the 2000 election, but no more. It is no longer the party of hawks with conscience, of Roosevelt, Truman, JFK, Miller, Lieberman. Now, a party of wealth, racism, history revisionism, anti-JudaoChristian values, entitlement, and appeasment that tricks others into thinking the shoe is on the other foot.

“Would that you could”? Precisely so. You can’t. I checked the status of the world this morning, and we’re still in Iraq, we’re still in Afghanistan, we’re still waging the War on Terror, and Bush and Cheney are still in office. LMFAO. Next will be Giuliani. The “Neo-Com” Dems are eating their own TWO YEARS before the election, like Christmas decorations on Labor Day. Try selfless service in the military before you make a mockery of yourself attempting to do so with others.

If you all want the last word that’s fine. I get the last laugh that you change nothing. I have a military and veterinary career and 3 children. I don’t have time to attempt to change the minds of half-wits on a prolonged basis. You’re beyond help in your blind nostalgia to a dead party and the MSM.

Thanks, Val Kilmer, but you’re more like a dingleberry, if you catch my drift.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1894989 big papa Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:19:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1894989 <em>You bang your heads in rants such as seen on this thread day in and day out, saying nothing to the face of your opposition, because you lack the courage to do so</em> Comment by majdvmphd #43 <strong>...would that I could L'il Bushie... ...would that I could... ...I'd gladly be your Huckleberry...</strong> You bang your heads in rants such as seen on this thread day in and day out, saying nothing to the face of your opposition, because you lack the courage to do so

Comment by majdvmphd #43

…would that I could L’il Bushie…

…would that I could…

…I’d gladly be your Huckleberry…

]]> By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1892975 majdvmphd Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:34:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1892975 One more thing... "War ciminal"? "Mentally ill"? Especially in light of this unsubstantiated quote, HOW? Why does John F'n Kerry, who admitted to committing and witnessing far greater atrocities than pillow cases over someone's head or Red Hot Chilly Peppers music, met with the Viet Cong IN uniform unauthorized in Paris, threw his medals/ribbons over the White House wall, said that troops were "terrorizing Iraqi women and children and kids in the dead of night" and further went on to call them stupid (I have far more education than Mr. Kerry), get to run for president while throwing our current military under the bus? THAT'S a traitor! THAT'S why 86%+ of the military voted for Bush. One more thing…
“War ciminal”? “Mentally ill”? Especially in light of this unsubstantiated quote, HOW?
Why does John F’n Kerry, who admitted to committing and witnessing far greater atrocities than pillow cases over someone’s head or Red Hot Chilly Peppers music, met with the Viet Cong IN uniform unauthorized in Paris, threw his medals/ribbons over the White House wall, said that troops were “terrorizing Iraqi women and children and kids in the dead of night” and further went on to call them stupid (I have far more education than Mr. Kerry), get to run for president while throwing our current military under the bus? THAT’S a traitor! THAT’S why 86%+ of the military voted for Bush.

]]> By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1892862 majdvmphd Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:23:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1892862 P.S. You defend these ISLAMOFASCISTS at your own peril. Thankfully, none of you on here are in any position to effect a change in policy or morality when it comes to national defense or the War on Terror. You bang your heads in rants such as seen on this thread day in and day out, saying nothing to the face of your opposition, because you lack the courage to do so and you are extremely frustrated about your "combat ineffectiveness". Tomorrow, and the next day, it will be as it was today and yesterday, and that gives me comfort. You change nothing in here, or likely in your real, everyday lives. Sorry if the truth hurts, but wake up tomorrow and see. You certainly didn't wake up after 9-11; maybe you hit the snooze button and need to see that mushroom cloud rising over the People's Republic of San Francisco to see the light. Unfortunately, the flash blindness will be the last thing your retinas process to your optic nerves. Come to think of it, having your head buried in the sand or up your a$$ might be a good strategy for flash blindness protection. None of you are speaking from being "in-the-know", another thing that frustrates you Michael Morons. You're selling out your own children's futures. P.S. You defend these ISLAMOFASCISTS at your own peril. Thankfully, none of you on here are in any position to effect a change in policy or morality when it comes to national defense or the War on Terror. You bang your heads in rants such as seen on this thread day in and day out, saying nothing to the face of your opposition, because you lack the courage to do so and you are extremely frustrated about your “combat ineffectiveness”. Tomorrow, and the next day, it will be as it was today and yesterday, and that gives me comfort. You change nothing in here, or likely in your real, everyday lives. Sorry if the truth hurts, but wake up tomorrow and see. You certainly didn’t wake up after 9-11; maybe you hit the snooze button and need to see that mushroom cloud rising over the People’s Republic of San Francisco to see the light. Unfortunately, the flash blindness will be the last thing your retinas process to your optic nerves.
Come to think of it, having your head buried in the sand or up your a$$ might be a good strategy for flash blindness protection. None of you are speaking from being “in-the-know”, another thing that frustrates you Michael Morons. You’re selling out your own children’s futures.

]]> By: majdvmphd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1892817 majdvmphd Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:14:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1892817 Where is your citation for this quote? Not only is it not found ANYWHERE else online (google, media sites, other search engines), it simply can't be found. You need to provide references or it's considered bullsh*t. I can't believe that there are 42 replies on this thread thus far and not ONE of you has doubted the source. No scrutiny, just blind Commander in Chief bashing. We've won every single battle in Iraq, and in 5 years since 9-11, we've lost approximately 3200 soldiers. We lost 400,000 in WWII in less time. We've lost 22,000 since 9-11 to murders by illegal immigrants, another 28,000 to drunk driving accidents involving illegal immigrants. We've found WMD's which former PA Senator Rick Santorum declassified, yet you still spew the "Bush lied -" or "Bush misled about WMD's" hoping to revise history...or current events. Having been in the Army for 5 years, worked at Chem Defense for 2.5 years, and now for an Assitant Secretary of Defense, with a D.V.M. and Ph.D., I can tell you all that you're full of sh*t. I can also tell you that saying you support the troops and not the war is a hollow gesture. Not a single service member I know feels ANY support whatsoever from that philosophy, especially since we overwhelmingly support the mission. Genocide is genocide, even if the immoral anti-American anti-Semitic majority at the U.N. doesn't uphold their own resolutions, even if there are other interests in the region besides humanitarian (although 1.6million murdered is 4 times as many as in Darfur). We had no exit strategy in WWII or the Korean Wars either; we're still there and for reasons that developed AFTER the objective. The objective now is to keep the terrorists funneling in where we're mobilized to fight them and off our soil and to be in theater (Iraq and Afghanistan) and poised to fend off Iran. Ahmadinejad threatens Israel daily, as did Saddam by paying blood money to the families of Palestinian homicide bombers to the tune of $25K. Have we learned NOTHING from WWII? When somebody says he's going to exterminate you, he's going to exterminate you. Have we learned NOTHING from Vietnam an Somalia about allowing the troops to complete the mission unfettered by the media, ACLU, and Hollywood? The next time you stick a knife in my comrades-in-arms backs by stating you "support the troops but not the war", wipe the proverbial residual spit off your mouths and blood off your hands for "defunding us". You're pathetic. Where is your citation for this quote? Not only is it not found ANYWHERE else online (google, media sites, other search engines), it simply can’t be found. You need to provide references or it’s considered bullsh*t. I can’t believe that there are 42 replies on this thread thus far and not ONE of you has doubted the source. No scrutiny, just blind Commander in Chief bashing.
We’ve won every single battle in Iraq, and in 5 years since 9-11, we’ve lost approximately 3200 soldiers. We lost 400,000 in WWII in less time. We’ve lost 22,000 since 9-11 to murders by illegal immigrants, another 28,000 to drunk driving accidents involving illegal immigrants. We’ve found WMD’s which former PA Senator Rick Santorum declassified, yet you still spew the “Bush lied -” or “Bush misled about WMD’s” hoping to revise history…or current events.
Having been in the Army for 5 years, worked at Chem Defense for 2.5 years, and now for an Assitant Secretary of Defense, with a D.V.M. and Ph.D., I can tell you all that you’re full of sh*t.
I can also tell you that saying you support the troops and not the war is a hollow gesture. Not a single service member I know feels ANY support whatsoever from that philosophy, especially since we overwhelmingly support the mission. Genocide is genocide, even if the immoral anti-American anti-Semitic majority at the U.N. doesn’t uphold their own resolutions, even if there are other interests in the region besides humanitarian (although 1.6million murdered is 4 times as many as in Darfur). We had no exit strategy in WWII or the Korean Wars either; we’re still there and for reasons that developed AFTER the objective. The objective now is to keep the terrorists funneling in where we’re mobilized to fight them and off our soil and to be in theater (Iraq and Afghanistan) and poised to fend off Iran. Ahmadinejad threatens Israel daily, as did Saddam by paying blood money to the families of Palestinian homicide bombers to the tune of $25K.
Have we learned NOTHING from WWII? When somebody says he’s going to exterminate you, he’s going to exterminate you.
Have we learned NOTHING from Vietnam an Somalia about allowing the troops to complete the mission unfettered by the media, ACLU, and Hollywood?
The next time you stick a knife in my comrades-in-arms backs by stating you “support the troops but not the war”, wipe the proverbial residual spit off your mouths and blood off your hands for “defunding us”. You’re pathetic.

]]> By: Xenon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1891840 Xenon Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:03:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1891840 Cheney is mentally ill. Cheney is mentally ill.

]]> By: CoffinsDrapedWithFlags http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1891196 CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:10:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1891196 Lisa, After November 7, 2006, I haven't heard any apologies coming from Democrats. Damn Cheney, he is so f**king stupid that he doesn't even realize that he's responsible for this quagmire... the very one that he predicted in 1991. Dick Cheney, proof positive of the Peter Principle. Lisa,

After November 7, 2006, I haven’t heard any apologies coming from
Democrats.

Damn Cheney, he is so f**king stupid that he doesn’t even realize that he’s responsible for this quagmire… the very one that he predicted in 1991. Dick Cheney, proof positive of the Peter Principle.

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1889425 Raymond Funamoto Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:16:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1889425 As the philosopher poet George Santayana so correctly observed, "Those Who Cannot Remember the Past are CONDEMNED to Repeat It." Well, Mr. Santayana, I WOULD SETTLE FOR Cheney to be CONDEMNED, period! With a daffodil stuck in his repulsive arse as a FLOURISH! As the philosopher poet George Santayana so correctly observed, “Those Who Cannot Remember the Past are CONDEMNED to Repeat It.” Well, Mr. Santayana, I WOULD SETTLE FOR Cheney to be CONDEMNED, period! With a daffodil stuck in his repulsive arse as a FLOURISH!

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1888760 Zooey Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:35:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1888760 How I long to see the look on "Dick's" face, when he hears the metallic <em>click</em> of the handcuffs closing around his wrists. How I long to see the look on “Dick’s” face, when he hears the metallic click of the handcuffs closing around his wrists.

]]> By: Kurt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1888618 Kurt Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:12:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1888618 IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

]]> By: randron http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1888598 randron Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:09:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1888598 The really amazing thing about Cheney and his delusions is that even when he's right, he's wrong! The really amazing thing about Cheney and his delusions is that even when he’s right, he’s wrong!

]]> By: angryvietnamvet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1888272 angryvietnamvet Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:41:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1888272 Capture this criminal and send him to The Hague for trial and hanging. That should wipe his disgusting, evil sneer from his pig face. Capture this criminal and send him to The Hague for trial and hanging. That should wipe his disgusting, evil sneer from his pig face.

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1887466 Keith H. Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:50:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1887466 The Dick says whatever benefits him and his at the time. He has several motives . . . money . . . money . . . money . . . and . . . money. As we keep saying. He is a war criminal and should be treated as such. The Dick says whatever benefits him and his at the time.
He has several motives . . . money . . . money . . . money . . . and . . . money.
As we keep saying. He is a war criminal and should be treated as such.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1885412 Tobey Tall Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:16:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1885412 <strong>US Forbids Israel-Syria Talks</strong> Must be part of an american future plan ???? mmmm US Forbids Israel-Syria Talks

Must be part of an american future plan ???? mmmm

]]> By: cynical ex-hippie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1882447 cynical ex-hippie Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:14:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1882447 My fellow Americans. Vote for me and I will get us into another quagmire, because 9/11 demands it! Gee, he should have said that in 2000, a lot of voters could have made a more informed decision. My fellow Americans. Vote for me and I will get us into another quagmire, because 9/11 demands it!

Gee, he should have said that in 2000, a lot of voters could have made a more informed decision.

]]> By: Don Bacon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/comment-page-1/#comment-1882271 Don Bacon Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:52:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/23/cheney-in-1991/#comment-1882271 I.R.A.Q.--I Remember Another Quagmire--Vietnam. I.R.A.Q.–I Remember Another Quagmire–Vietnam.

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