Newly declassified documents revealed that the Ministry of Defense spent £18,000 of taxpayers’ money in an experiment “to see if volunteers could ’see’ objects hidden inside an envelope. It is claimed the ministry hoped positive results would allow it to use psychics to ‘remotely view’ Bin Laden’s base and also to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”
Psychic friends network?
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pmAnd it was better money spent than what his old buddy across the pond has spent with the same result.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 pmAt least they were looking. I give him credit for trying even this. GWB didn’t even try.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 pmBeing a Brit, I thought he’d go for a reading of the tea leaves.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:31 pmThis is the best thing that US or UK did after 9/11.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmlol
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmThe MoD tried to recruit 12 ‘known’ psychics who advertised their abilities on the Internet, but when they all refused they were forced to use ‘novice’ volunteers.
There is a reason none of these professional psychics were willing to be part of the experiment: They are not stupid. They are con men and women, and they are fully aware theirs is an act to deceive the gullible -which now includes people at the British MoD apparently.
If these psychics actually had any abilities they would have won the $1M offered by the Randi Foundation to anyone who can beat their Paranormal Challenge. I fail to understand why yet another “study” was even needed.
I shudder at the though that the MoD are some of the people who decide the fate of millions in their own country, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Sent to war on the word of a psychic? Ssshhesshh…
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmGuy’s watching too much Harry Potter…
He’d probably have had better luck with a medium, however, since Osama’s been dead for years…
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmHeck, for £18,000, I could have told him there were none.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 pmTony Blair should have followed George W. Bush’s example, and looked for the WMD himself:
Bush showed a photo of himself looking for something out a window in the Oval Office, and he said, “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere.” The audience laughed. I grimaced. But that wasn’t the end of it. After a few more slides, there was a shot of Bush looking under furniture in the Oval Office. “Nope,” he said. “No weapons over there.” More laughter. Then another picture of Bush searching in his office: “Maybe under here.” Laughter again.
- from President Bush’s performance at the 2004 Radio and Television Correspondents Association Dinner.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmRemote Viewers Used Against Bin Laden
13-Nov-2001 Lyn Buchanan
U.S. intelligence agencies are recruiting psychics to help predict future terrorist attacks and to find Osama Bin Laden.
The U.S. government established the remote viewing program known as Stargate in the 1970s to detect Soviet weapons, locate hostages, and to assist other intelligence operations. The program, which was developed at the Stanford Research Institute in California, was supposedly shut down in 1995 after its existence was leaked to the news media. However, many sources suspect it simply went deeper underground.
Now U.S. intelligence agencies are reactivating some Stargate members, asking them to predict likely targets of future terrorist attacks. Angela Thompson-Smith and Lyn Buchanan, former members of Stargate, confirm that they have been approached. According to one remote viewer, “Our reports suggest a sports stadium could be a likely target.â€
The FBI and CIA refused to comment but confirmed investigators have been told to “think out[side] of the box.â€
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:45 pmI’m guessing they also employed Dr. Peter Venkman. Dr. Raymond Stantz, and Dr. Egon Spengler.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:46 pmThe CIA uses remote viewers too, just sayin’
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:49 pmCan’t Blair just ask God like Bush does?
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:50 pmCan’t Blair just ask God like Bush does??
What’s the difference?
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmSo global warming and evolution are controversial theories but psychics get tax money on both sides of the pond. What a world. What a world.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmSomeone should put together a pool. How long after he leaves office before Blair moves to the US.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmremote viewing works!!! for just 3 easy payments £6,000, you too can discover where osama’s been hiding, where the wmds have been all this time, and yes folks, where all the money went to “rebuild” iraq… actually my friend did try the stargate remote viewing techniques from some website and he says it does work but you have to decide for yourself… hey, if the US and brits were at least willing to give it a shot, then something must’ve worked, at least enough to get them to pony up £18,000 right?…
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmIt would have been much less expensive, and just as reliable and accurate, to place a 10min call to Miss Cleo.
See, I can also think “outside the box”.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmHey, man, before we get all critical, let’s acknowledge the fact that though obviously retarded, at least he’s trying to see the truth. If Bush hired a psychic, it’d at least be a sign that he gives a rat’s ass.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmMaybe Blair can consult with a psychic and find Bush’s Brain and Cheney’s Heart.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pmIsn’t this an indication that Blair (just like everybody else) believed that there were WMDs? Why would you spend money on something as insane as psychics if you already knew there were no WMDs? This could absolve Blair of lying about WMDs. If we could just find a Bush psychic, then we could put to rest the idea that he lied about WMD. I’ll check it out.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmKay,
While you at it, have him check for liberal spine.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmOur how about Republican courage to stand up to an idiot paul.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 pmToday’s hocus pocus eventually becomes tomorrow’s scientifc fact. Consciousness is a “thing” and does affect our environment. This is established fact as part of Quantum Theory. That some people are “sensitive” to consciousness is the subject of another debate that would require greater depth than an ideologue like James Randi can provide.
For those of you interested here’s a quick primer on Quantum Theory and Consciousness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmI saw a documentary once about the CIA using “remote viewers” during the cold war. But this is ridiculous. Talk about desperation. LOL.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmThe psychics were right!
They saw no wmd and lo and behold, there were now wmd.
Of course, Hans Blitx found no wmd and lo and beold, there were no wmd, and he was actually looking for some.
bush asked god if there were wmd in Iraq and god lied to him.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:24 pmThe most powerful documented psychic ever was an american called Edgar Cayce.In dream state he could give lectures of past and future events.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmThe cards never lie! Call me now!
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 pmWhy do they need psychics when they could just ask Don “They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat” Rumsfeld?
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 pmIsn’t this an indication that Blair (just like everybody else) believed that there were WMDs?
Comment by paul — February 23, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
No. This is an indication that his MoD are stupid enough to spend other people’s money in a pointless endeavor.
Why would you spend money on something as insane as psychics if you already knew there were no WMDs?
They didn’t know -they simply didn’t really care to find out whether or not the WMD were actually there.
It also proves the MoD would go to any lengths to find evidence that would validate their pre-conceived notions, rather than conduct actual investigative work; which is what the UN weapons inspectors were doing.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmSo, if they didn’t really know there were any WMD, then they didn’t really lie, did they?
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pm’see’ objects hidden inside an envelope
That was my gig.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:46 pmpaul sez:
First of all, ‘everybody else’ didn’t believe that there were WMDs, regardless of how cleverly you try to slide that phrase in to buttress your point.
Second, the purpose of the psychics was primarily to find and spy on bin Laden…WMDs were secondary.
First, if Tony was in fact aware that “facts were being fixed around the policy”, don’t you think he’s capable of lying about what he expects the psychics to find?
Second, at £18,000, this endeavor was cheap in government terms. Completely useless, of course, but you do get what you pay for, after all.
You really are stupid, aren’t you? Do you actually believe the twaddle you’re writing now, or are you just looking for attention?
You do that.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:49 pmThey knew there weren’t any WMDs. They were told so over and over. They attacked anyway and you are making excuses for them, AGAIN.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:52 pmif they didn’t really know there were any WMD, then they didn’t really lie, did they?
Comment by paul — February 23, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
Er, yes.
If you state “we know where they are…” when in reality you have no clue, then you are, well, lying. If you say “Hussein has reconstituted his WMD program”, without any evidence whatsoever, you are also lying.
You can call it “misleading” if it makes you feel better. Then there is also “misrepresenting”, “deceiving”, “beguiling”, and “duping”.
That anyone should make such absolute declarations, when they have no idea of what they’re talking about is -at the very least- perverse, considering lives were at stake.
But then, whatever the adjective you pick, less-than-factual statements seem to be ok with you.
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pmRemote viewing? This would be humorous if it weren’t so gaddomn pathetic.
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:03 pmSo, if they didn’t really know there were any WMD, then they didn’t really lie, did they?
Comment by paul
Paul. Hrr. So…..if’n you drove drunk and the officer didn’t find the beer bottles, you threw out the window, but smelled beer on your breath, you didn’t actually drink? Cause he was lying when he thought you were DUI? And that we should let poor old Paul off the hook because no one saw him fibb, err drink beer?
Tell me did you ever work as a contortionist?
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:08 pmRemote viewing? This would be humorous if it weren’t so gaddomn pathetic.
Comment by RUCerious
(Holds sealed envelope to head)
“No windows, moldy air, man in delapidated chair, crotchety old man, staring grimacingly at win95 on a 12 inch monitor. ”
(opens envelope)
“Where is Paul?”
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmDid they test Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld?
I seem to recall the both of them claiming that “they know where the WMDs are in Iraq.”
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 pmHelm of the Titanic.
Cut to bridge.
(scraping sound)
Paul, “Yo’ B, did you just hit an Iceberg?”
B, “Why, no, of course not, how dare you accuse me of fibbing!!”
Paul, “It sure sounded like ripping tearing metal from hitting an iceberg”
B, “That was not the sound of me hitting an Iceberg, did you see me hit a Iceberg?
Paul, “Why no I didn’t, I guess you weren’t fibbing”
B, “Of course not man, the iceberg hit me, now man the lifeboats, I think that noise was a iceberg hitting and tearing the metal on the ship”
Paul, “Quite right you are mate!!”
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:29 pmYes, all this nonsense about Remote Viewing. Next thing you know the government will be investigating Teleportation..Star Trek style.
Teleportation Works
07-Feb-2003
Scientists long scoffed at Star Trek style teleportation, but now they’ve changed their tune. While they don’t think they’ll be able to instantly move people from place to place, Swiss scientist Nicolas Gisin has been able to make small amounts of matter disappear down a telephone line in one laboratory and reappear in another, 180 feet away.
“It is amazing, the way information from one photon suddenly appears in another photon,” says physicist Raymond Laflamme.
Albert Einstein called this “spooky action at a distance.”
“I would say it’s spooky if we put on our everyday glasses,” Laflamme says. “But if we try to understand it with the set of rules of quantum mechanics, then it is perfectly understandable.”
Teleportation will revolutionize computers and bring new life to crytology, since the information being sent never actually exists on the communication line on which it travels, so there’s nothing to intercept.
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pmI seem to remember some late night radio host was touting a school that you could attend and learn remote viewing, but his name escapes me. Any help out there?
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:41 pmI remote viewed MA smoking meth, and pecking on a keyboard.
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:56 pmIsn’t this an indication that Blair (just like everybody else) believed that there were WMDs? Why would you spend money on something as insane as psychics if you already knew there were no WMDs? This could absolve Blair of lying about WMDs. If we could just find a Bush psychic, then we could put to rest the idea that he lied about WMD. I’ll check it out.
Comment by paul
I could also mean he was praying there were WMDs… and to send people to kill and be killed in a war based on a prayer of hope? That is not leadership. That is criminal.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:00 pmWow, that’s just…gah…I’m at a loss.
Why hasn’t Blair been forced out of office yet?
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:02 pmTeleportation is the process where a human being is broken down to individual molecules and transmitted to a 20-35 gallon soup container downstream. How many volunteers do I have?
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:05 pmOnce, in McGyver I recalled a chapter where russian psychics were trying to locate a nuclear bomb I think. I am almost sure that during Cold War and maybe even later governments have tried to know military secrets using psychics.
(Not that I base my opinions on McGyver, but you got to admit that it was a very good show)
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:07 pmThe Reagan’s availed themselves of psychics, too.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:07 pmWalt.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:08 pmI barely understand some of this. Perhaps you can translate it.
Why hasn’t Blair been forced out of office yet?
Comment by War4Sale
Cuz a psychic just told him he would be out later.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:10 pmI think David Hasselhoff and a black 80’s Pontiac TransAm would be able to find whatever they need.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:12 pmI think David Hasselhoff and a black 80’s Pontiac TransAm would be able to find whatever they need.
Comment by ForTruth —
With McGyver running shotgun.
LOL
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:18 pmBlair:
“That bloke GWB swore this was in the Reagan’s “secret vault”…
Why isn’t this working!”
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:19 pmI think David Hasselhoff and a black 80’s Pontiac TransAm would be able to find whatever they need.
Comment by ForTruth
The car talked and thought. Lets not forget that.
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:30 pmhttp://newsmine.org/
News and Document archive source for uncovering and exposing
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:36 pmwith over 10,000 articles and documents
uh hi guys what all this hub bub
February 23rd, 2007 at 5:48 pmOh crap better get into my spider hole till this blows over
#50 – Juan C,
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:18 pmI think it is mostly empty. Translate it to what? My Spanish is as deep as your Klingon.
The psychics were headed by Madame Arcati(tm) of BLITHE SPIRIT(tm) and the hermaphoditic seer Tiresias, Jeane Dixon and The Witch of Endor. Considering the fact that these psychics are ALL DEAD, that in itself is AMAZING, Eh, Mr. Blair-Witch? I guess a drowning man like Tony Blair, thanks to the efforts of CHIMPya Bush and Torticola Cheney, WILL CLUTCH AT STRAWS!!!!! GLUG GLUG GLUG!!!!!
February 23rd, 2007 at 8:47 pmHeck, for £18,000, I could have told him there were none.
Ain’t that the truth. I imagine any of us AND the UN inspectors would have told him for free.
P.S. Paul really is an idiot, isn’t he?
February 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amPaul, your name is appearing alongside the word “idiot” often around here. Ever wonder why that is?
February 24th, 2007 at 1:54 amLOL Tony Blair did not hire very good psychics, because no WMD existed in Iraq in 2003.
February 24th, 2007 at 1:56 amWould it not be more effective to locate Bin Laden using the biochip he has implanted in his left leg, and a system such as ISS Geo Location Manager? The manufacturer claims it can pinpoint the location of an individual to within 25m
http://www.notafreemason.com/content2-04.html
February 25th, 2007 at 11:45 amFear Education? do we if we don’t teach Evolution?…
U.S. Lags World in Grasp of Genetics …
February 25th, 2007 at 7:07 pm