Generals will quit over Iran attack.
By on Feb 24th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Generals will quit over Iran attack.
The Sunday Times reports that up to five Pentagon generals and admirals “are willing to resign rather than approve what they consider would be a reckless attack [on Iran]. ‘There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,’ a source with close ties to British intelligence said.”
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Would be nice if the generals would do what they swore to, that is protect the constitution and arrest Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and Rice then hold a little military tribunal, find them guilty and hang them for treason, and crimes against humainity. Appoint Pelosi president until the 08 elections. Show the world that America still has values that don’t include war, taking bribes, and sexually deviant GOP scum.
February 24th, 2007 at 10:54 pmCool. I hope it’s true.
I like Generals & Admirals with spines. I consider them quite valuable to this country.
February 24th, 2007 at 10:56 pm#1 PrisonerInAmerika
Though I feel your sentiments, that would be very dangerous. We really do not want a military coup.
February 24th, 2007 at 10:57 pmCommon Dreams reported, that the British press has found out, that Israel has requested fly over rights, over IRAQ. Let’s hope there’s enough opposition to these war monger maniacs and with the British “pullout”, which to me means is more a defensive act, since the British occupation forces are in BASRA, (ON THE BORDER WITH IRAN). Hence if Iran is attacked, why wouldn’t they strike the nearest target, in Basra.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:01 pmWhy do our Generals hate out troops?
February 24th, 2007 at 11:01 pmAnd why do our Generals hate America?
February 24th, 2007 at 11:02 pmYou could knock me down with a feather if anyone resigns. Not a single one of them has any f*****g b**ls. They all want their multi-million dollar annual salaries from military contractors when they resign. Besides the more munitions used up now, the better the business for their future employers.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:03 pm#4 Kahoneez
I don’t think they would be able to get those rights, the Iraqi government would never allow it, even if they are in the pocket of the US. Then again, I can just see Bush giving the go ahead because he believes he has such authority.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:05 pmIf true…
…it’s a relief to know that there are STILL those with morals, integrity and ethics in the Pentagon…
…hopefully these generals and admirals will be afforded a publc voice…
…to warn the people about what the REAL consequences of an Israeli/U.S. attack on Iran…
…especially long term…
February 24th, 2007 at 11:10 pmDamn
I think it really means something when the military leadership doesn’t want to do what they do.
So what was that whole thing about sending the soldiers the wrong message? Shouldn’t we keep throwing soldiers into the meat grinder so we don’t let them down?
Wait, that doesn’t sound right.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:15 pmIf the Shrub makes the call to hit Iran, the Pentagon should experience one of those “Can you hear me now” moments and ignore the wacko bastard. Maybe he’ll get upset and go home to Crawford and clear some scrub brush where he belongs.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:19 pmBush will go after them if he finds out who they are, so they might be forced to have a coup first. This is serious, so the Congress must force Bush to resign.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:25 pmNobody I know in the military wants to attack Iran.
As a side, is not the time that we start listening to unnamed sources?
February 24th, 2007 at 11:37 pmThis is serious, so the Congress must force Bush to resign.
Comment by Jay Randal
It is serious. A general would not issue a threat to resign like this unless he/she knows this is already a good possibility an attack on Iran will happen, if they don’t speak up.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pmAs a side, is not the time that we start listening to unnamed sources?
Comment by hacker bob
It’s just a little harmless speculation.
On the other hand…..um, Curveball.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pmPerhaps the generals will testify at the impeachment.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:52 pmComment by Jay Randal#12
Comment by Wayne #14
Of course this is serious but…
I just wonder how effective 5 generals and admirals can be…
…out of…
…(does anybody have any idea how many generals and admirals there are?)
…in stopping these TRAITORS…
February 24th, 2007 at 11:55 pmAs a side, is not the time that we start listening to unnamed sources? Comment by hacker bob
I grew up in a military family. I was a military brat, hehe. I played with the children of officers growing up. I knew the commanding general of every base we lived on or near.
February 24th, 2007 at 11:56 pmNo officer I ever knew would be talking about resigning, even anonymously, unless things were serious. Thats my opinion and i’m sticking to it. =)
perhaps these five generals are all coming out with books this spring. …just like those other five that wrote books. lets see, how many generals are there in the entire dept of defense? what a joke. nobody heard of these cats before now. but all of a sudden their opinion is worth something to you?
February 24th, 2007 at 11:59 pmComment by hacker bob — February 24, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
The man you’ve been supporting ever since I started reading your posts does. You know him. He’s only the Commander-in-Chief of all the Armed Forces of the United States of America.
Yeah, I know, you support the office, not the man. But your posts say otherwise. You’ve supported Bush all the way down the line.
And Bush will find some general willing to go through with the orders to attack. And a hellova lot of your fellow soldiers are gonna die. But then, they, as you, volunteered, right? This is what you joined for, isn’t it? Those are the talking points, aren’t they?
You’ve been used, bob. And you’re still being used. And you will continue to be used until you die, or get so fed up that you’re willing to take a different stand.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:01 ammmmm…why havent they resigned yet?
February 25th, 2007 at 12:04 amBut wait, Seixon says that there is nothing at all to suggest that we are going to war with Iran.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:06 am#3 AshenShard
Given the choice between a deranged president who will try to get us into an ill-advised war that could destroy our country’s ability to defend itself against a real enemy and a military coup that would remove said deranged president from office, you can put me down for the coup.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:06 am661 Generals between the Army, Air Froce and Marine Corps. Can’t find a good count on the Navy Admirals.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Sorry, I still believe in my country. I just approach it differently that you do.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:08 amSorry, I still believe in my country
hacker bob
Important question: What do you mean by your country?
February 25th, 2007 at 12:12 am#19 ballbuster
How often has something like this happened under other presidents? ANY other presidents. The military doesn’t trust this guy. Probably most of them will follow orders without question, but there’s a growing distrust and a growing recognition that this president has been f*cking them over. We’ve already hear dissent from a lot of generals and admirals who have already left the service. Now we’re starting to hear from the ones who are still in.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:13 amVerbalkint > Seixon is a 25 year old blogger who lives in Norway, so I do not pay much attention to what he spews on here.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:14 amso, you side with 5 out of 661 , not including the navy?
i smell a book deal…paid for by soros no doubt.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:14 amSorry, I still believe in my country. I just approach it differently that you do.
Comment by hacker bob
Did you ever take my challenge and take a good look at what has been happening to the VA systemwide under the helm of Bushco?
February 25th, 2007 at 12:14 amI would like your opinion on that.
#26 chimp,
February 25th, 2007 at 12:16 amHow many generals did President Lincoln go thru during the civil war?
i smell a book deal… Comment by ballbuster
You’re probably just smelling your upper lip.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:17 amQuit hell. They should put Squirrel Bait and Cheney under house arrest and demand Congress begin impeachment proceedings. When Bush orders our military to fire upon its own citizens will they obey? A mercenary force that Rumsfeld advocated would not hesitate.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:19 amnow, now, Wayne….lets play like grownups. think progress!
February 25th, 2007 at 12:24 amComment by Juan C — February 25, 2007 @ 12:12 am
The citizens, the government (as an institution, not necessarily the administration).
I feel we are still a young nation and our greatest moments have not happened yet.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:24 am#30, Lincoln went through a few Generals. But bear in mind that the circumstances and times were very different. The Country was at war with itself and a few of those Generals that the President relieved of command were shall we say not entirely commited to the preservation of the Union. That is to say they harbored sympathies to the Confederate cause. Meade especially comes to mind.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:25 amQUALAR > notice that most of our National Guard troops are in Iraq, and they would refuse to shoot fellow Americans, and they would fight back against Blackwater mercenaries shooting Americans dead on our streets. Bush has already used Blackwater goons in New Orleans.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:25 amballbuster = A Bushbot
February 25th, 2007 at 12:27 amComment by Wayne — February 25, 2007 @ 12:14 am
I have been checking it out some. I agree that things are bad now and need to be better FAST.
Yep, we are getting screwed. But it is not just one man doing it to us. But I know where the buck stops.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:27 ami smell a book deal…paid for by soros no doubt.
Comment by ballbuster #28
DAMN!
…must EVERYTHING be a “game” with you demons?
There is the great possibility that MILLIONS are going to die AGAIN on this planet…
…because of the sick, twisted, selfish goals of glory and riches of a few…
…and all your stupid inbred a*s can talk about is a trivial “book deal”…
…scoring a “political” point…
…bi*ch you deserve death (but first poverty and endless suffering and pain)…
…but not to take everybody else on the planet with your deluded a*s…
February 25th, 2007 at 12:30 amThe timing of this article in the Sunday Times is interesting to say the least what with Hersh’s piece in the latest issue of the New Yorker detailing the planning group at the Pentagon. Wonder if they have the same source(s).
February 25th, 2007 at 12:30 amThe generals support the president. They say things in front of congress that supports the president. The president’s position slides around and the generals end up with less credibility. The generals are fired for saying the things they used to say in support of the president. The generals get books deals. The president finds different generals preloaded with the new talking points. The cycle of life continues.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:32 ami don’t think so. its just fun to hand y’all you’re a55’s. calling someone a troll because they don’t agree with you is what libs bcuz they don’t really believe in freedom of speech.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:38 amThe citizens, the government (as an institution, not necessarily the administration).
Comment by hacker bob
Which one is your country when a 70% of your citizens disapprove your government´s doings?
February 25th, 2007 at 12:39 amIn an effort to demonstrate to the conned’selfservative Bushites how FOOLISH an expansion of hostilities in the ME would be…
…I’d like to pose TWO questions:
1) How many of you doubt the fact that Osama bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, and Ayman al Zawahiri…
…as well as ALL of their followers…
…aren’t chomping at the bit to become martyrs for their cause?
now…
2) How many of you can say the same for George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and theirs?
February 25th, 2007 at 12:41 amthey don’t really believe in freedom of speech.
Comment by ballbuster
Please provide links for that statement. Thanks.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:44 amKeep up the pressure TP posting Liberal Progressives…
…I feel a “conversion” coming on…
…who says “exorcisms” are a thing of the past… :)
February 25th, 2007 at 12:45 amnot accurate. you should examine the polls and those polled a little closer so you’re not shocked beyond belief in 08. Remember, both Slick and Carter had low approval at one time during their residency. Carter in the 20’s and slick in the 30’s. Yet look, carter a nobel winner, and slick ever so popular, despite black hawk down, kosovo, bosnia and the cigar. OH, lest we forget the lying under oath thingy…aka scooter libby crime. bwaahaahaa
February 25th, 2007 at 12:46 amHomeland Security has spent millions on crowd control training. I ask myself why. They must be expecting al-Qaeda to muster en masse before it carries out its next terrorist act. Don’t kid yourselves they’re training to control pissed off Americans protesting this government. A year ago a general suggested that a new weapon which causes severe pain should be tested during domestic demonstrations. How did this prick know that violent demonstrations were anticipated? Squirrel Bait and Cheney’s agenda.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:51 amits just fun to hand y’all you’re a55’s.
Comment by ballbuster
If that sentence could be deciphered,you might have a point.
ballbuster = illiterate
February 25th, 2007 at 12:53 amYep, we are getting screwed. But it is not just one man doing it to us. But I know where the buck stops.
Comment by hacker bob
When VA has political appointees, that were members of the conservative Heratage Foundation think tank, that called Veteran benefits welfare, that just may have something to do with it.
Just a suspicion…..
I hope there can be some real congressional investigations into it. And maybe the democrats will bring back the yearly meeting with veteran groups to hear their greivances. That traditionally yearlymeeting the Republican congress decided to cancel permanently.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:54 amnot accurate.
Comment by ballbuster
Where is your proof, please provide a link, I would like to read it.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:57 amwayne, darling, i dont have links. i am a vessel of vast knowledge. trust me. ;)
February 25th, 2007 at 1:01 amwayne, darling, i dont have links. i am a vessel of vast knowledge. trust me. ;)
Comment by ballbuster — February 25, 2007 @ 1:01 am
Now, I am not a Navy man, but the only truely full vessels I have ever seen are usually on the bottom of the ocean, and full of water.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:05 amLOL. good one bob.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:10 amMissing links are you ballbuster? Kinda surprised to see that you recognize that, it’s encouraging.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:13 ambwaahaahaa
Comment by ballbuster
Your examples dont answer anything. Im not a democrat, by the way.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:17 amMaybe ballbuster is the ‘missing link’.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:18 amThis ballbuster troll is as entertaining as it is dumb…
February 25th, 2007 at 1:20 amJuan > I just have a curious question for you: How come President Calderon of Mexico is hardly ever seen in public? Since his swearing in he is rarely seen, so ends up he is a dog like Obrador claimed.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:21 amballbuster just fills in on TP threads when Seixon is asleep in Norway.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:22 ami am a vessel of vast knowledge. trust me. ;)
Comment by ballbuster #52
…so are…
…garbage dumpsters and landfills…
February 25th, 2007 at 1:26 am#61 – Bwahahahahahahahaha, that was funnier than hell Papa.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:28 amtrust me. ;) — ballbuster
Like a screen door on a submarine.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:29 amJay. Well, yeah, he took power under a lot of fraud suspicions in a polarized society. He knows he doesnt have the popular support like Obrador, for example. It is amazing, Obrador can go freely everywhere but Calderon is yelled at every public appereance. Even when he was in Davos, just some weeks ago. He uses choppers and strong security around him to travel around. These cowards cant even face the people they are screwing.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:30 amMaybe ballbuster is the ‘missing link’.
Comment by troll alert
Heh. Thats a smart one.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:31 amComment by Wayne #63
hahahahahahaha!!!
…clever…
….I like it…
February 25th, 2007 at 1:35 amIt is amazing, Obrador can go freely everywhere but Calderon is yelled at every public appereance.
Comment by Juan C #64
…sounds eerily familiar…
…Clinton-Bush…
…hmmm…
…fascism has gone global…AGAIN…
February 25th, 2007 at 1:37 amThese cowards cant even face the people they are screwing.
Comment by Juan C
Bush has to have pre-screened audiences to avoid being booed and heckled.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:39 amBallbuster, like Bush a family of squirrels would have a field day in your head.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:40 am…fascism has gone global…AGAIN…
Comment by big papa
I would go further: I wouldnt find strange a “terrorist” attack on some oil ducts in Mexico if people become more aware of the systematic social unjustices in this country.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:42 amwhat is this pathetic topic about again?
February 25th, 2007 at 1:46 amOH YA… five silly generals ….out of 661, not including navy generals….that “spoke out” against the president.
but you go on.
Comment by ballbuster #71
Hey EVERYBODY,
I think ballbuster is tired of playing…
…maybe it should take a time out…
February 25th, 2007 at 1:51 am# 72
February 25th, 2007 at 2:01 amNow that’s funny.
I’m the first to say; If ya can’t run with the big dogs, get off the porch. So run home, your discusion skills lack meat.
How many generals did President Lincoln go thru during the civil war?
Comment by ballbuster — February 25, 2007 @ 12:16 am
None of those generals resigned. They were relieved of their command by Pres Lincoln. No group of generals threatened to resign, that I can recall.
what is this pathetic topic about again?
Comment by ballbuster — February 25, 2007 @ 1:46 am
And yet, here you are, posting comment after comment….
February 25th, 2007 at 2:01 amJuan > Calderon is admitting by his actions that he did NOT win the presidency of Mexico fairly. He cheated to win and then prevented recounts of the ballots. He will always have to be carefully guarded, or he will be assassinated. Bush and Cheney also fear that as well.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:03 amWho can you trust these days
The story of how this line of investigation was suppressed, both in the law enforcement community and in the media, is a saga in itself. I know that Ketcham worked on this story long and hard, and had supposedly firm commitments from both Salon.com and The Nation to publish his work. Both projects were killed at the last minute, in one case an hour before it was scheduled to run. What’s particularly stupid, in the case of Salon, is that they ran his previous piece, on the “Israeli Art Student Mystery,†years ago- and now refuse to follow up their own story.
As for why the government investigation into the Israeli connection was scotched, Ketcham cites a former CIA counter-terrorism officer: “There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House.â€
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2638.htm#001
February 25th, 2007 at 2:04 amAt no time in our history has the military considered doing a coup, but Bush is forcing members of the Pentagon brass to consider doing it.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:05 amThe most recent data I found is from 2002; we had 875 flag officers. So if 661 for the other three services is correct (from #24), then ~875 would be about right, give or take.
So we’re talking just over a half-percent of the flag officers would resign (if the ‘unnamed source’ is correct.
A half-percent. Can you find 100% agreement in any organization?
February 25th, 2007 at 2:14 amIf ya can’t run with the big dogs, get off the porch. So run home, your discusion skills lack meat.
Comment by ballbuster #73
Uuuuhhh…
I think old hippie woman is looking for you on the other thread…
…something about a link…
…Murtha’s brother?
February 25th, 2007 at 2:21 amLOL!!!!
Oh, OHW can take her link and file it next to her shaver. it’s useless.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:25 amthe link to the LA Times article isnt active anymore.
So we’re talking just over a half-percent of the flag officers would resign (if the ‘unnamed source’ is correct.
Comment by Dale #78
…Your observation speaks more to the power of TRADITION…
…not necessarily INTELLECT…
…just because someone is LOYAL…
…doesn’t make him/her SMART…
February 25th, 2007 at 2:32 amI would definitely SUPPORT a SEVEN DAYS IN MAY(tm) IN REAL LIFE WITH THE GENERALS AND ADMIRALS ROUNDING UP CHIMPya, Torticola Cheney, Rove, Rice, Gonzales, Addington, Hadley, Dumbsfailed and Wolfowitz(just because they no longer are in the Bush cabinet does not exonerate them for their War Crimes), Feith, Perle, Yoo, Kristol, all neocons who advised Bushland Uber Allies, all of Bushland Uber Allies and their supporters in the public and the media, and give them a Military Tribunal Trial and Summary Justice–DEATH BY HANGING, FIRING SQUAD, LETHAL INJECTION, THE ELECTRIC CHAIR, THE GUILLOTINE, etc. etc.!!!!!
February 25th, 2007 at 2:36 am#81, so, what… any flag office that’s loyal, and doesn’t resign, is dumb? What about the grunts in the field; are they dumb also for not rebelling, either passively or actively?
February 25th, 2007 at 2:36 am82… pretty much anybody that doesn’t agree with you, huh? Just round ‘em all up and shoot them? Do you realize you’re calling for the violent overthrow of the government? How do you think the Secret Service would feel about your ’support’?
Idiot.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:41 amComment by Dale #83
…you draw your own conclusions…
…if your “simple” mind is able…
February 25th, 2007 at 2:41 am#85, typical liberal, our troops are stupid. Tell me, do you write Kerry’s jokes for him?
February 25th, 2007 at 2:59 amHmm.. Ballsbusted.. so because a link to the 2005 LA Times article doesn’t work anymore, the text from it must be invalid, right? (The link to The Carpetbagger Report works quite well). Yep, typical troll has to go back to the Murtha swiftboating days to drag up old news, then when it’s debunked, it’s not worth discussing.. right?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:12 amYou certainly turned tail and ran when confronted with facts, though, didn’t you.
File it next to my shaver?? Ummm.. you been sneaking peeks at my legs? Bad troll.
It looks more and more likely that Bush might attack Iran in mid March of this year. If he does so the entire Middle East would explode, so Bush would be forced to declare an emergency draft of every single able-bodied male/female from age 18 to 45. Even GOPers would be forced to join the military, unless they are from a wealthy family or have connections in DC to get them exempted. It looks very bad, so be prepared to be drafted because of Bush igniting global WWIII.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:19 amBush bikes through White House bomb drill.
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Just think of it this way people.
Bush get’s off on bike riding at such a time as a bomb drill and casually and cooly goes about his own business because HE will be the one to order the strikes against the US.
He is just “calibrating fire” (fine tuning the apparatus) to find any and all weakenesses in the “system” so HE can exploit them at a time of his choosing and blame it on “Iranian” terrorists this time.
Then the attacks on Iran will begin.
Watch and see, 9-11 with a twist is coming up in the very near future.
They used to call it Operation Northwoods, but I don’t know what they call it anymore.
My name for it?
Operation KlUsTeRfUcK.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:24 amBush bikes through White House bomb drill.
——————————————————–
Just think of it this way people.
Bush get’s off on bike riding at such a time as a bomb drill and casually and cooly goes about his own business because HE will be the one to order the strikes against the US.
He is just “calibrating fire” (fine tuning the apparatus) to find any and all weakenesses in the “system” so HE can exploit them at a time of his choosing and blame it on “Iranian” terrorists this time.
Then the attacks on Iran will begin.
Watch and see, 9-11 with a twist is coming up in the very near future.
They used to call it Operation Northwoods, but I don’t know what they call it anymore.
My name for it?
Operation KlUsTeRfU*cK.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:28 amHow can someone attend college and yet be so STUPID at the same time? A look at our friends(and enemies) across the aisle and the dogshit they convey about Democrats or anyone “Not Like Them” for example and to wit:
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College Republicans Apology letter
To Whom It May Concern:
I would like to express my sincere and deepest regret to Dean of Seaver College, Dr. David Baird, Professor Dan Caldwell, Republicans, Democrats, and everyone else who was affected by a recent Facebook message that was sent to members of the Facebook group “College Republicans.†I would also like to make clear that I was not speaking for the Pepperdine College Republicans club, but on my own. The message was careless and inexcusable and I humbly ask for forgiveness from anyone who was hurt by my words.
Specifically, I’d like to apologize for the following actions:
1. A statement about “chastising†the Dean of Seaver College, Dr. David Baird. If I had it to do over, I would have made clear that I was suggesting to our officers and members that they contact Dr. Baird and respectfully recommend speakers that share our beliefs. I now understand that my words were disrespectful to the Dean and I am very sorry.
2. My comment about making John Kerry feel “unwelcome.†Although I do not agree with Senator Kerry politically, he is entitled to respectful treatment at all times and I do not condone any kind of disruptive or disrespectful behavior. I realize now that someone could use my statement to justify improper behavior and I sincerely apologize for not choosing my words more carefully.
3. Insinuating that John Kerry is a traitor. Just because someone has a different opinion does not make them a traitor and I am sorry for using that label.
4. My use of implied profanity. I understand that this is not consistent with the Christian mission of Pepperdine University.
While I wrote a good deal of the message in a joking and non-serious manner, I realize that not everyone viewed it in the same light. I have definitely learned from this experience. It is important to always speak and act professionally and respectfully, especially in correspondence that can enter the public forum. I will not make these same mistakes again and I am truly sorry for the way I came across online.
Sincerely,
Ben Seale
Submitted 09-07-2006
February 25th, 2007 at 4:03 amHow do you know if you live in a Facist Nation?
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Welcome to Neo-America under Bush the Antichrist!
February 25th, 2007 at 4:14 amSunday, February 25, 2007
http://www.theittlist.com/
Virginia Legislators Vote to Apologize for Slavery (1:46 am)
Larry O’Dell for AP reports:
RICHMOND, Va. — Meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol, the Virginia General Assembly voted unanimously Saturday to express “profound regret†for the state’s role in slavery.
Sponsors of the resolution say they know of no other state that has apologized for slavery, although Missouri lawmakers are considering such a measure. The resolution does not carry the weight of law but sends an important symbolic message, supporters said.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×234561
How the U.S. military would remove Bush-Cheney
There’s a term for when the military replaces its Commander-In-Chief – coup d’etat — but there are lesser practical steps that have been taken by Pentagon brass several times in modern American history to deal with Presidents viewed as incompetent to carry out their duties as CIC. Here’s how it works in practice.
The Joint Chiefs of Staff have developed a range of options to deal with domestic political crises. These contingencies include major military or terrorist attacks, natural catastrophies, insurrections, civil disturbances, and the partial or complete cessation of civilian goverment. By far, the most difficult for the national command staff is confronting and managing the threat posed by a manifestly imcompetent or incapacitated CIC who issues launch orders without proper procedures. Under no circumstances short of actual hostilities or a confirmed threat of attack, could the military carry out launch orders committing the military to war on the sole authority of the President. George W. Bush can not just pick up the phone in the middle of the night and begin a nuclear strike. That order has to be countersigned by others within the chain of command.
The Pentagon carries out strategic planning for all possible contingencies. The staff of Joint Chiefs and the combat commands attempt to prepare reponses to all possible threats or orders they may receive. Somewhere in a locked file in the D-Ring of the Pentagon, the JCS staff have developed contingency planning for how top military commanders would respond to manifestly illegal or irresponsible orders issed by a deranged President. These responses would always involve consultation with civilian agency and Congressional leaders and range up to and include plans for the use of troops to forcible remove the President from the White House, depending upon the circumstances.
Political Containment
One doesn’t contemplate the involuntary removal of elected civilian leadership lightly. Civilian control over the military is the cornerstone of the American constitutional system, and all actions must serve that end. Therefore, the military brass will not act independently and will seek out responsible elected and appointed officials for any action prior to removal of a President. Prior to any direct intervention in the political process, Pentagon commanders would have to be convinced that all normal procedural and political options, including Impeachment or succession under the 25th Amendment, had been exhausted or were futile.
An active plan of containment by civilian political institutions is the preferred means to deal with a dangerously unstable CIC. If normal political checks and balances break down, however, then top military commanders face a series of more difficult choices that must be made in order to uphold their oaths to protect and preserve the U.S. Constitution.
Removal in Place
Romoval in Place is an option to forcible removal of the incumbent from office, or may be employed as an intervening step pending the resignation or involuntary removal of the President.
Removal in place has been seen in “figurehead” presidents in the past, employed due to illness or temporary physical or mental impairment during the terms of Presidents Wilson, Nixon, and Reagan. Historically, this option has been carried out more or less informally by measures such as confinement to hospital of the President, the removal of the CIC’s access to the nuclear “football” containing launch codes, and the heavy medication and close supervision of the President by aides.
The removal in place option requires the cooperation of key figures within the White House inner-circle along with civilian agencies to effectively keep the President from exercising undesirable command decisions of consequence. The effective maintenance of this option ultimately depends upon at least the passive acquiesance of the CIC and his immediate staff and family.
This option has the advantage of maintaining the public appearance of normalcy, avoiding open conflict between civilian and military authorities, and the attendant political and economic crises that open, formal, involuntary removal would entail.
Involuntary Removal
When it becomes apparent that an incompetent or psychologically impaired President can not be countered by normal political means or contained in place, military and civilian leaders must cooperate to insure that the CIC is disconnected from the mechanisms by which he might be able to issue launch orders to the national command system.
This option is a matter of last resort exercised only when by the consensus of the Joint Chiefs, after consultation with civilian heads of agencies and Congressional leaders, that the incumbent President presents extreme danger to the national security that can not be contained by alternatives, including those outlined above. The proper procedure would then be for alternate civilian leadership within the Line of Succession to invoke the 25th Amendment declaring the incumbent President incapable of carrying out his duties. If the Vice President is also judged incapable of carrying out succession duties in a responsible manner, he too is also subject to immediate removal under the 25th Amendment.
Involuntary removal may only be considered as a last resort in the face of grave, imminent threat to national security, such as to prevent the exercise of unlawful orders committing U.S. forces to hostilities. An example of unlawful launch orders would be issuance of a preemptive nuclear strike orders against a foreign state or power that poses no realistic, imminent, and grave threat to American forces or interests. Of particular concern would a launch order issued without Congressional consultation or approval initiating a conflict that foreseeably holds a high potential for large-scale U.S. military casualties or retaliatory attacks on civilian targets within the United States that can not be effectively defended against.
Given the escalating tensions in the region, and the vital U.S. interests at stake in South Asia, the top military commanders have forcefuly articulated their positon on various options. They have opposed implementation of plans for a preemptive attack on Iran. If the President were to issue a launch order for a preemptive attack on Iran without first obtaining a Congressional resolution of war, that action — in effect, an illegal order — would require the national command authority and civilian leadership to implement plans to contravene such an order, sever the CIC’s command authority, pending the removal the President and Vice President under the 25th Amendment.
Do not be deceived by the rhetoric and sabre-rattling. The United States will not go to war with Iran just because George W. Bush or Dick Cheney order it.
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From Americablog…
Top Pentagon official says getting Bin Laden — who has “re-established significant control” over Al Qaeda — IS NO BIG DEAL
Earlier this week, The NY Times reported that Bin Laden and his allies have “re-established significant control” over a resurgent Bin Laden:
American officials said there was mounting evidence that Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, had been steadily building an operations hub in the mountainous Pakistani tribal area of North Waziristan. Until recently, the Bush administration had described Mr. bin Laden and Mr. Zawahri as detached from their followers and cut off from operational control of Al Qaeda.
That disturbing report makes sense now that we know our leaders don’t think capturing Bin Laden is worth the effort according to a report in today’s Washington Post:
The Army’s highest-ranking officer said Friday that he was unsure whether the U.S. military would capture or kill Osama bin Laden, adding, “I don’t know that it’s all that important, frankly.”
“So we get him, and then what?” asked Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the outgoing Army chief of staff, at a Rotary Club of Fort Worth luncheon. “There’s a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today.
“He’s hiding, and he knows we’re looking for him. We know he’s not particularly effective. I’m not sure there’s that great of a return” on capturing or killing bin Laden
The Bush Administration didn’t take Bin Laden seriously in early 2001. They’re not taking him seriously now.
Instead, Bush and Cheney only invoke Bin Laden and al Qaeda for their own warped political purposes. Just this week, Dick Cheney had the audacity to bring up al Qaeda in yet another partisan political attack on Democrats. What a fraud. If Bush and Cheney had done their jobs, al Qaeda wouldn’t be a force anymore. Instead, the Bush Administration has enabled and emboldened the terror network. Now, apparently, it’s Bush policy to let Bin Laden get away with the mass murder of Americans. Beyond shocking.
Bush and Cheney have not only enabled Bin Laden, they’ve made him a legend.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/top-pentagon-official-says-getting-bin.html
February 25th, 2007 at 7:08 amBush would be forced to declare an emergency draft of every single able-bodied male/female from age 18 to 45. Even GOPers would be forced to join the military
There won’t me a draft (although I’d love to see one). The risk of a revolt would be much too high.
More then likely they will just print more fiat dollars and exponentially raise Blackwaters budget. With so much of America desperate for a good paying job, plenty will go fight overseas for a 6 figure job.
February 25th, 2007 at 7:48 amBush might replace these military general with Lieberman as his big commander,assisted by McCain in pursuit of success and victory in Iraq.
February 25th, 2007 at 8:21 amWebster Tarpley devoted a large portion of his show to this about three months ago.
The point is that this generals need to resign NOW. Doing that is the true patriotic action to take. That action may prevent an attack on Iran and may induce our total withdrawal of our troops from the Middle East NOW.
Waiting until the die is cast is a weak unpatriotic thing to do.
THEY NEED TO QUITE NOW ! ANY OTHER TIME IS TOO LATE.
February 25th, 2007 at 8:37 amare they dumb also for not rebelling, either passively or actively?
Comment by Dale
Of course, and not only that, they are to blame as well…
#85, typical liberal, our troops are stupid. Tell me, do you write Kerry’s jokes for him?
February 25th, 2007 at 8:39 amComment by Dale
Lame.
Paige:
There is no Bin Laden.
Osama does not exist – and no one here can provide proof to the contrary.
It’s all just a game that David Rockefeller, Poppy Bush and Dick Cheney are instigating.
February 25th, 2007 at 8:48 amBush has been provided with “plausible deniability” – the ability to state that “we are not preparing to go to war with Iran.”
What they ARE preparing for is a RETALIATORY STRIKE.
The GAME is to implement a FALSE FLAG ATTACK against US interests as the essential PRETEXT for the Retaliatory Strike.
Of course this IS a plan to go to war with Iran, but JUST LIKE 9/11, they are using the guise of a FALSE FLAG ATTACK to “justify” a NUCLEAR “RESPONSE.”
All the King’s horse and all the King’s shills will parrot the Administration’s claim that the attack against US interests originated in IRAN – and before you can blink, we will have launched an OFFENSIVE NUCLEAR WAR under false (flag) pretense.
Now do you see why it was so important for the Administration to keep you from learning that it was THEY who attacked us on 9/11 – using Mossad to implement the strike? Now do you see how the media has conspired with the administration to keep you in the dark – drinking the “Al Qaeda Kool-Aid?”
There is no Al Qaeda – there is no Bin Laden.
Everything they tell you is a lie.
February 25th, 2007 at 8:57 amHow will China react to the US bombing their oil interests? Just asking. Probably raise the prices at WalMart and blow a few satelittes out of the sky.
February 25th, 2007 at 9:22 amAsh – your are correct. Isreal should be seeking Iraq’s permission for fly overs, not the US permission. Unless, the US is annexing Iraq to the US, the US plans for Iraq to become another US territory.
February 25th, 2007 at 9:26 amThis is truly encouraging. I only wish there was a way to say to our military as a whole that it is not acceptable to point their weapons at American citizens. I feel that Bush and Cheney are participating in an all out effort to pull the purse strings of liberty so tight that we will be subjugated by our current administration. This effort can be seen all around, cronyism, Habeas Corpus, Supreme Court appointments, other judgeships, federal prosecutors, fabricated intelligence, dirty (Roveian) tricks.
I can envision congress bringing articles of impeachment against Bush and Cheney and a bunch of soldiers entering the chamber guns loaded and drawn. Then a member of congress approaches the soldiers saying, this is the floor of the congress of the United States of America. One soldier then says, I have my orders sir, as everyone is lead away.
February 25th, 2007 at 9:41 amVerbalkint > Seixon is a 25 year old blogger who lives in Norway, so I do not pay much attention to what he spews on here.
Comment by Jay Randal — February 25, 2007 @ 12:14 am
Seixon is a global warming denying punk, too. I was being sarcastic.
Just where does the parade of losers at this site come from? There is always some new deadender coming online here (ballbuster today, some other dumbass loser tomorrow).
Shut up, Dale. Your kind is a shrinking minority in this country.
February 25th, 2007 at 9:45 amThere isn’t going to be a military coup in this country unless Bush tries to launch nukes. A few principled resignations at the top of the military chain would go a long way towards shutting Bush down, but it would certainly be a crisis moment. Congress is the key and must be ready to move with a fast impeachment.
Congressional Republicans need to wake up and smell the coffee, because on the current trajectory they will lose so many seats in 2008 that they might as well not even show up for work after that.
February 25th, 2007 at 9:49 amhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/24/222659/890
…Congressional leadership has said “No” This is the element that isn’t being considered here. The Pentagon brass are well aware that the Constitution cedes sole plenary power to declare war to Congress. If Congress instructs that it has not authorized a strike, the Pentagon will not do it on the contrary authorization of the President.
As it is, both Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid have already said that Bush is not authorized to take military action against Iran.
Pelosi: Bush lacks power to invade Iran
http://news.yahoo.com/...
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
Thu Feb 15, 6:21 PM ET
WASHINGTON – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that President Bush lacks the authority to invade Iran without specific approval from Congress, a fresh challenge to the commander in chief on the eve of a symbolic vote critical of his troop buildup in Iraq.
SNIP
At the same time, she said, “I do believe that Congress should assert itself, though, and make it very clear that there is no previous authority for the president, any president, to go into Iran.”
Senator Harry Reid told the National Press Club recently:
“The president does not have the authority to launch military action in Iran without first seeking congressional authorization,” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Furthermore, Section 3 of the War Powers Resolution of 1973 made it clear that the President must first consult with Congress “in every possible instance” prior to committing US forces into a conflict.
CONSULTATION
SEC. 3. The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situation where imminent involvement in
hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such situations.
The Generals know the law. Furthermore, they’re also aware that a preemptive strike against Iran without any UN Resolution would also be a violation of the Geneva Conventions and Nuremberg Principles forbidding aggressive wars.
Under these circumstances, if Bush ordered an attack, the Joint Chiefs would likely put a freeze on military operations pending restoration of a clear chain of command. The Pentagon brass would be well within the law to arrest Bush and Cheney under the Uniform Code of Military Justice requiring the refusal of illegal orders and the arrest of commanders who issue them.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:31 am#103 VerbalKint
It would be nice if Republicans put country over party for once. Right now they don’t seem to have that ability.
February 25th, 2007 at 10:36 amBush is Commander in Chief, and Congress has no authority to prevent him from deploying the military in response to a strategic development. Congress can only defund on-going operations, not prevent hypothetical responses to stategic threats to the country.
Why doesn’t Pelosi just go to Iran and be a whore for the mullahs instead?
February 25th, 2007 at 10:43 amSTILL supporting Bush, I see. This time you attempt to belittle the story, by mentioning the total number of generals.
You convently ignore the fact that these are purported to be “America’s most senior military commanders.”
But that’s ok. I’m confident your Commander-in-Chief Bush will fire his way down the list until he finds a general willing to order the attack.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:05 amWhy doesn’t Pelosi just go to Iran and be a whore for the mullahs instead?
Comment by Vince P —
Because we have you here and you are plenty enough “GOP Whore” for us all.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:05 amVinnie vinnie Bush is an idiotic moron in chief.You are definitely not in touch with reality.Alice in wonderland was a fairytale.
WWWIII is for real, if you keep on supporting your f*cking masturbator in chief moronic and defamatory policies.Thanks for your help, best regards from hell….
February 25th, 2007 at 11:06 am106 – read through rachel’s post at 91, starting with “How the U.S. military would remove Bush-Cheney”
February 25th, 2007 at 11:06 amBriseadh na Faire —
Hitler’s Generals did the same thing startng in 1943. They even tried to assassinate Hitler themselves.
This is what comes to mind when I think of what is happening with our Generals.
A lost cause, a sick, willful murderer as President, mutineering Generals.
It looks like 1943 all over again!
Namaste!
February 25th, 2007 at 11:10 amCheney all options are on the table – except talk ?????
kill a million before talking ????? what has America become ????
February 25th, 2007 at 11:17 amOpen Question:
How does one bomb an active nuclear facility without releasing radiation into the atmosphere?
February 25th, 2007 at 11:21 amBush is Commander in Chief
Comment by Vince P — February 25, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Writing this gets Vince’s juices flowing.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:21 am>kill a million before talking ????? what has America become ????
Talk? Watch the Iranian nuclear negotiator say on Iranian TV how they use “talks” only for the purpose of being allowed to continue with thier work.
Naive fool.
http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp
Search for clip 805 by puttign 805 in the box called “Clip #â€, then you can view either the video or a transcript.
Their site is funky and sharing URLs doesnt seem to work
February 25th, 2007 at 11:22 amThe effect of wanting to “talk” with Islamic Jihadis:
On the morning of Nov. 2 in a busy street in east Amsterdam, a 26-year-old Dutch Moroccan named Mohammed Bouyeri pulled out a gun and shot controversial filmmaker Theo van Gogh, who was riding a bike to his office. Van Gogh hit the ground and stumbled across the street to a nearby building. He didn’t make it. As the Moroccan strode toward him, van Gogh shouted, “We can still talk about it! Don’t do it! Don’t do it.” But the Moroccan didn’t stop. He shot him again, slit van Gogh’s throat and stuck a letter to his chest with a knife. He was slaughtered like an animal, witnesses said. “Cut like a tire,” said one. Van Gogh, the Dutch master’s great-grand-nephew, was 47 years old.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:24 amIsreal coalition of the willing to attack iran – thats all
February 25th, 2007 at 11:24 amNaive fool.
Comment by Vince P — February 25, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Vince, you are a neverending fount of psychological projection.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:25 amEvery GI down to the last private, seaman, airman should also quit. What if Bush/Cheney gave a war and NOBODY came?
February 25th, 2007 at 11:35 amOpen Question:
How does one bomb an active nuclear facility without releasing radiation into the atmosphere?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Briseadh na Faire ,
This was touched on in the Tancredo thread. Walt The Man and I talked about this with Hacker Bob in that thread.
In a nutshell. It is impossible. They have enough “bad elements” even if they didn’t have the actual bomb yet, but they have enough “bad elements” that would be “released” into the atmosphere, to really fu*ck things up in that region, and thus THE WORLD, for a very long time, if they bombed those facilities.
They would use DU rounds no doubt, and the combination of DU munitions along with the burning facility itself, ON TOP of a radioactive wasteland since Gulf War I BECAUSE of the DU rounds used more extensively this time than in the first Gulf War.
Combine all of those, stir, shake well and you have an airborne “Traveling Cheyrnobl” that will intersperse globally and without border or indiscretion.
DU radiation?
I suggest you read my post in the Tancredo thread.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:44 amUncle Ho > I wish the entire US military would refuse to carry out Bush’s orders, but enough of them will willingly do whatever Bush demands of them. Many Generals in Germany tried to stop Hitler, but he had any who tried shot or hanged. US is going down same path.
February 25th, 2007 at 11:52 amBush is Commander in Chief
Comment by Vince P — February 25, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Writing this gets Vince’s juices flowing.
Comment by VerbalKint —
Now THAT was funny! LMAO rotfl!
…Crazily of course.
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February 25th, 2007 at 11:58 amLike our own hacker bob.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:13 pmJay Randal; I can only pray that our generals will do their own 20 July.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:27 pmFaire > Years ago I visited Dachau Concentration Camp in Germany, which is a museum of Nazi brutality during WWII. German guards did horrible things, but they all claimed they were just following orders. How many fascistic Bush lovers will claim the same thing as they torture or kill fellow Americans in Halliburton camps?
February 25th, 2007 at 12:27 pmFaire > I also met a very old Lutheran German minister at Dachau who had been imprisoned there from 1938 to 1945. He talked with me privately for about 3 hours about why he was arrested, what he saw in the camp, etc. He even saw Himmler himself a few times. I will never forget this man and his last words to me: “Never let it happen again!”
February 25th, 2007 at 12:32 pmThe German Clergyman was arrested on direct orders of Hitler himself for speaking out against the Fuhrer’s edicts. The Gestapo came to his church and arrested him after he finished his last sermon. He was taken before a secret tribunal and sentenced to life in prison at Dachau for crimes against the state. After Hitler committed suicide in Berlin the guards at Dachau released him. He went to Dachau village and was almost killed in one of the last air raids on Germany in the war.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:46 pmhttp://www.newsmine.org
Over 10,000 Articles and Files for Exposing and Uncovering
Comment by rachel kinnardi — February 25, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Thank you for the link. I’ve bookmarked it.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:54 pmThat collective sense of “never again” still resounds in Europe today. Yet there are still those attracted to Neo-Nazism.
February 25th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI will never forget looking out through the iron gate at Dachau with the words “Arbeit Macht Frei” above the gate. Just outside the old camp are the ruins of slave labor factories that the prisoners were forced to work at. Also their were medical labs outside of the camp to do experiments on the prisoners too. The crematorium at the camp is housed in a Bavarian cottage with a huge chimney attached. The first experimental gas chamber is located at Dachau too. I will always remember what I saw there and it makes me cry to see Bush on the verge of repeating it in America.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:02 pmTheir site is funky and sharing URLs doesnt seem to work
Comment by Vince P — February 25, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Then get some damn thoughts of your own.
You don’t offer anything that I can’t read myself. That make your irrelevent.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:07 pmunbelievable: unlike you, I actually do research. I dont believe that the entire world acts according to how I would imagine i would like it to act
February 25th, 2007 at 2:12 pmThe best case scenerio of Iran getting the bomb is that every Gulf state gets one, Saudi Arabia gets one, Syria gets one, Egypt gets one.
Strangely none of you freaks have thought that far out. All you can think about are your paranoid delusions and your politics and your fraud of a party. Sick sick sick.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:51 pmWell, it’s about time!!!!!
However, it may end up being the proverbial too little, too late.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:57 pm# 19: Your ad hominem is bizarrely illogical. Your gross speculation that Generals might write books in future lends no weight to your questioning their integrity today.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:36 pmSTILL supporting Bush, I see. This time you attempt to belittle the story, by mentioning the total number of generals.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 11:05 am
How is that a statement of support or belittleing the story? Someone asked how many generals there were and I answered the question.
Get over it and quit looking for things to be upset about. Plenty of things will come along on their own.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers] Islam says Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us Islam says Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy Islam says Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.†– Ayatollah Khomeini
February 25th, 2007 at 6:13 pmThis is a funny video of Ayaan Hirsi Ali appaering with Bill Maher
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/25/video-ayaan-hirsi-ali-schools-darrell-issa-on-dhimmitude/
February 25th, 2007 at 6:28 pmCrazy Iranian Nuclear Propaganda Computer Animination
http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480×360.asp?ai=214&ar=1390wmv&ak=null
February 25th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThree Arab states in the Persian Gulf would be willing to allow the Israel Air force to enter their airspace in order to reach Iran in case of an attack on its nuclear facilities, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyasa reported on Sunday.
According to the report, a diplomat from one of the gulf states visiting Washington on Saturday said the three states, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates, have told the United States that they would not object to Israel using their airspace, despite their fear of an Iranian response
February 25th, 2007 at 7:17 pm84–Dale, as a goose-stepping repugnant-repug rightwingnut and neocon neonazi follower of Bushland Uber Allies, YOU WILL BE ROUNDED UP WITH CHIMPya, Torticola Cheney and all the rest, ARRESTED, CHARGED and EXECUTED ALONG WITH THEM, YOU F*CKING BOMBASTIC IMBECILE AND PIECE OF RANCID HYENA-SHIT SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT, YOU CLUELESS MORON AND IDIOT A TRILLION TIMES OVER!!!!!
February 25th, 2007 at 7:51 pmDamn, your cum shot out of my monitor
February 25th, 2007 at 8:10 pmWas it good for you too? That was PURE VITRIOL MIXED WITH PHOSPHORIC ACID!!!!!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmIt was passionate.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:46 pm