Hersh: Bush Administration Conducting ‘Very Aggressive’ Special Operations Inside Iran
Hersh: Bush Administration Conducting ‘Very Aggressive’ Special Operations Inside Iran
Appearing on CNN’s Late Edition to discuss his new article, “The Redirection,” Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh warned that the Bush administration is “very far along” in its plans for a war with Iran.
Among the other highlights from the interview:
– Hersh said U.S. special forces and intelligence operatives have been conducting a lot of “very aggressive” activities inside Iran on the border of Iraq.
– Inside the military, they are planning “a 24 hour package” — that is, a plan to operationalize a strike on Iran within 24 hours of Bush’s order.
– Noting Bush’s steadfast refusal to talk with Iran, Hersh said, “Maybe we just have to really listen to what he is saying. And I don’t know what can stop him because he is president.”
Watch it:
Transcript:
BLITZER: And joining us now from Cairo, Sy Hersh. The article entitled, “The Redirection.” Sy, let me read one line from it. You wrote, “The Iran planning group has been handed a new assignment, to identify targets in Iran that may be involved in supplying or aiding militants in Iraq. Previously, the focus had been on the destruction of Iran’s nuclear facilities and possible regime change.” Based on all your reporting, how far along are U.S. military plans for a war with Iran?
HERSH: Well, of course, they’re very far along. They have been studying this forever. They’re constantly redesigning, retooling, but right now, as I wrote, the new — look, it’s pretty obvious what’s going on. In the last month or so, the president has been talking more and more about cross- border attacks and more and more about Iranian interference and threatening American lives. So it’s not surprising they would fine-tune the targeting to after suspected training sites et cetera across the border and inside Iran. That’s just normal, I think.
BLITZER: And you write that already, some special operations forces, some U.S. intelligence forces have crossed the line and have gone into Iran. Is that right?
HERSH: Oh, yes, that’s been happening for months. There’s been a lot of very aggressive cross-border activity. It’s more than just casual. There has been a lot of — of jumping over the border, chasing bad guys, or people we think are bad guys. That’s been going on quite a bit.
[…]
BLITZER: And this is what the new defense secretary, Robert Gates, said on February 15th. Listen to this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DEFENSE SECRETARY ROBERT M. GATES: We are not, you know, for the umpteenth time, we are not looking for an excuse to go to war with Iran. We are not planning a war with Iran.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLITZER: All right, that’s the Pentagon statement and the statement from Robert Gates. What do you say?
HERSH: Well, I guess Mr. Cheney, the vice president, did not get that message, because the other day in Australia, he once again publicly renewed the fact that all options are on the table, and pretty much made another strong threat against the Iranians.
It’s very possible, Wolf, that some of this is simply games being played by the administration that is simply designed to increase the political pressure on Iran, to jack it up. And a lot of this may be agitprop, propaganda. But inside the military, they are planning very seriously, at the president’s request, to attack Iran. And as I wrote in the article, one of the assignments they’d been given, contingency assignments — there is no operational order, no order to hit anything — but one of the contingency assignments would enable the president to at 2:00 in the afternoon say, “I want to hit,” and within 24 hours, targets would be struck — a 24-hour package.
[…]
HERSH: You know, I have been writing the same story for a year, sort of like I would call up my friends and say, it is Chicken Little, you know, the sky is falling, in the last year.
And now, obviously, it seems to be much more serious. It is much more intent. My own instinct is, Wolf, that this president is not going to leave office without doing something about Iran. And he could always negotiate, it is always on the table. And he keeps on refusing to negotiate. He keeps on saying he will not. And he keeps on talking tough. And maybe we just have to really listen to what he is saying. And I don’t know what can stop him because he is president.
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Bush is predictable. He does exactly the opposite of what he says he’s going to do.
I saw this interview. CNN seems to be stepping up their crdibility factor by actually offering credible sources who use facts and evidence to support the information.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:23 pmLAURA !!! YOU GOTTA DO IT, GIRL !!!
YOU GOTTA STOP YOUR CRAZY HUSBAND ! NOW !!!
MAKE HIM STOP !!!
February 25th, 2007 at 1:28 pmDon’t let these nazi lunatics have our sons and daughters. Period.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:29 pmWhat can stop Bush? Let’s see, IMPEACHMENT would do the trick. A military coup would do the trick. How about sending the twins on an all expense paid vacation to Iran?
February 25th, 2007 at 1:35 pmBush lover Seixon to appear and attempt to debunk Hersh in 3..2..1…
February 25th, 2007 at 1:36 pmWhere are the gun carrying schitzophrenics when you need them?
February 25th, 2007 at 1:37 pmImagine the scenario when the Iranians are attacked and they end up responding by killing Americans with missiles that Oliver North gave to them in the 1980’s.
-GSD
February 25th, 2007 at 1:37 pmGeez TP, I’m not allowed to refer to a certain anxiety drug in connection with Mrs Chimpy?
First deletion of the day….for me anyway.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:40 pmBush lover Seixon to appear and attempt to debunk Hersh in 3..2..1…
Comment by [B!]
No kidding. :)
Also: Vince P, michael, paul, valiant venus, ballslobber, etc.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmimpeachment would work!
send Laura and Barney to Iran for a visit …see how long they keep supporting him
with numbers like this it seems a crime not to impeach
February 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmhttp://www.micropoll.com/ akira/ MicroPoll?mode=html&id=23186
Imagine the scenario when the Iranians are attacked and they end up responding by killing Americans with missiles that Oliver North gave to them in the 1980’s.
Comment by GSD
A Lockheed Martin CEO´s wet dream.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWhere are the gun carrying schitzophrenics when you need them?
Comment by Coffins
They are all Bush supporters.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:43 pmGSD - now that would be ironic… Ollie’s missles shooting American planes.
What I’m not hearing in the press is how will China react? If we attack Iran, we attack China’s oil interests. China has a much larger military than the US and an everygrowing population of males. China has the bomb, owns a big chunk of our debt, makes most of WalMarts goodies, has the ability to take out satellites and has dibbies on Iran’s oil.
China is quiet and I don’t trust their silence. A cat will patiently and silently stalk its prey. What is China planning if we attack Iran?
February 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pmWhy are we missing the REAL story about Hersh’s interview on CNN today. He said today in the last few minutes of the interview, the US is illegally funneling funds to anti-Shia groups throughout the Middle East, these groups the US is financing include 3 jihadist organizations with similar anti-western objectives of Al qaeda. HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT PART OF THE INTERVIEW? WHERE IS THE WHOLE TRANSCRIPT? It is much more important than the first portion of the interview, we know the US is planning to attack Iran, but we have never heard that the US is funding anti-US terrorists, its treason, its tyranny, its the most obviously impeachable offense to get Bush on. GET THE WORD OUT, find the last portion of the interview and POST IT EVERYWHERE. This could actually get him impeached. Can you imagine the headlines in middle America… US Funds Anti-US Terrorists Groups!!!
February 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pmAlso: Vince P, michael, paul, valiant venus, ballslobber, etc.
Comment by Zooey
I guess rachel’s in a ‘good’ mood today then.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:50 pm[B!]
rachel is trying to do what she’s good at these days — research and excellent links. :)
February 25th, 2007 at 1:54 pm…. US Funds Anti-US Terrorists Groups!!!
Comment by Dan
That’s probably where the missing 12 billion are going.
February 25th, 2007 at 1:56 pmrachel is trying to do what she’s good at these days…
Comment by Zooey
I know,and I’m happy for rachel.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:00 pmI’m a firm believer in 4th and 5th chances.
Why are we missing the REAL story about Hersh’s interview on CNN today. He said today in the last few minutes of the interview, the US is illegally funneling funds to anti-Shia groups throughout the Middle East, these groups the US is financing include 3 jihadist organizations with similar anti-western objectives of Al qaeda. HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT PART OF THE INTERVIEW? –Dan
I saw the interview and was wondering about that myself. Bushco is funneling money to islamic terrorists through black bag operations. It is Iran/Contra all over again.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:01 pmWow, that sounds just like what he wrote almost exactly two years ago:
For all those who demanded the Bush administration prove that Iranians were meddling in Iraq, which they did, how many will demand that Hersh provide any evidence that we’ve been doing any clandestine reconaissance missions inside Iran?
Funny that is, Hersh contradicts his earlier reports today:
Wait, wait, wait. In January 2005, Hersh reported that the administration had been conducting reconaissance missions inside Iran since the summer of 2004. Now he’s saying that US intelligence forces have only been in Iran for months?
What’s it going to be Hersh? Were you right in 2005 (well, no) or are you right now (fool me once….)?
Oh well, the drooling liberal masses will eat it up without thinking, as evidenced quite easily here at Think Progress. Good job guys.
Don’t let Hersh’s contradictory record get you down. Believe. BELIEVE!
February 25th, 2007 at 2:04 pmThis is disturbing ………America justification for war against terror when all along America is supporting terrorists - this cannot be right
US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
February 25th, 2007 at 2:04 pmAmerica is secretly funding militant ethnic separatist groups in Iran in an attempt to pile pressure on the Islamic regime to give up its nuclear programme.
unbelievable,
I saw this interview. CNN seems to be stepping up their crdibility factor by actually offering credible sources who use facts and evidence to support the information.
Facts and evidence… Whereas the US military puts forth pictures of weapons caches manufactured in Iran, Hersh puts forth… eh.. hmm… gossip he heard from sources that have been telling him the same story for over 2 years…
Credibility is an interesting thing around these parts, apparently.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:07 pmScary stuff…
I don’t know that Bush can be stopped either but I think we have to try.
Visit http://www.stopiranwar.com and use the tools there to make your opposition known.
This is really serious and we have to at least try to stop it before it’s too late…if it’s not too late already….
February 25th, 2007 at 2:07 pmFacts and evidence… Whereas the US military puts forth pictures of weapons caches manufactured in Iran, Hersh puts forth… eh.. hmm… gossip he heard from sources that have been telling him the same story for over 2 years…
Credibility is an interesting thing around these parts, apparently.
Comment by Seixon — February 25, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
Yeah, Seixon, and they put forward pictures of WMD Vans that were also false. What you’re point frozen brain?
It took PNAC 4 years to pump up an invasion of Iraq with similar ‘claims of weapons’, and here fools like you are doing their lifting again. Tell me Seixon, why would any country have ‘weapons caches’, maybe because they have militaries? You’re a fool.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:10 pmComment by Seixon
Some people are soooo predictable.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:11 pmLaura Dear, the key’s are in the truck and it’s full of gas, you can do it…I’m counting on you….
rachel, great post’s and link’s every where from you..I appreciate your contrabutions..Blessings
February 25th, 2007 at 2:12 pmOK LETS WAIT FOR THEM TO KILL US!!? You pacifists are so Null and void of any intelligent reasoning….Apparently you all missed that Iran’s leaders goals are to eventually take the world over and rule by Islam Law and oppress all. You appeasing fools won’t get it until they have invaded our country or bombed our allies. How many innocent people must die while these lunatics suicide bomb and murder innocent people before you hippies understand that this is a world wide war that will not be over until one side has sustained so much damage that it’s unbearable to fight again!
February 25th, 2007 at 2:13 pmYOUR ALL A BUNCH OF HIPPIE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY WACKOS. PREEMPTION IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY AND FUTURE OF THE FREE WORLD……..
I’m a firm believer in 4th and 5th chances.
Comment by [B!]
Thank goodness, because so many of us need them. :}
February 25th, 2007 at 2:14 pmIran: U.S. is in no position to start war
Iranian Foreign Minister said on Saturday the U.S. was in no position to launch military strike against Iran, stressing that talks were the only choice to resolve the nuclear standoff.
Cheney ” all options are on the table” Cheney talk to iran “put up or shut up”
February 25th, 2007 at 2:14 pmYOUR ALL A BUNCH OF HIPPIE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY WACKOS. PREEMPTION IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY AND FUTURE OF THE FREE WORLD……..
Comment by PeteB
Bed-wetters to the right…..thank you.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:15 pmCNN seems to be suffering from multiple personality psychosis.
On CNN you have Seymour Hersh telling the truth about Iran.
and on CNN Headline News, you have Glenn Beck, foaming at the mouth and ranting like the reich wingnut psycho he really is.
CNN needs to fire Beck and hire Hersh.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:16 pmSo Seixon…..you believe that the “dear leader” will not invade Iran? Thats good to know. Surely the word of some hidden word monger means soooo much. I know that I feel better. Believe,Believe, Believe….you bushidiots know the world of faith. Believe, Believe….believe that bushit is not as dumb as he looks, not as stupid as he acts, not as illinformed as his actions prove. If only we could all stand on that pillar of faith and suck the kool aid. Good on you, seixon, for supporting the most vapid empty adminstration ever. Nice they have some hidden support. I clap for you dumbshit. Thanks for the country we now have.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:19 pmDoes anybody have John Binckley’s phone number? I hear they let him out on weekends now. He only winged Reagan but maybe his aim has improved.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pmApparently you all missed that Iran’s leaders goals are to eventually take the world over and rule by Islam Law and oppress all.
Tell them to wait. I have to finish my ME Master´s degree.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:24 pmValiant,
Even Think Progress has made amends with Iranians meddling in Iraq, are you disavowing the official dogma now? Everyone knows that Iranians are meddling in Iraq, the only thing that isn’t certain is how far high up the authorization for that goes within the Iranian government, as Bush has even said himself.
There’s a difference between cartoon pictures of mobile weapons labs and actual photographic evidence of weapons caches produced in Iran in 2006, you bumbling fool.
Meanwhile, Hersh doesn’t even have any cartoon pictures, but you take him at his word, even though he claimed the same thing two years ago.
When will you guys get your heads out of your asses? When will you put your partisan bullshit aside and realize that you are being duped? When will you demand the same standard of evidence from your favorite mainstream media sources as you do of the Bush administration?
You’re all a bunch of partisan hack hypocrites.
The funny thing is that I’ll be back here one year from now telling you all “I told you so” and then Hersh will pop back up and tell the same story, and you’ll believe him all over again.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:25 pmIt seems appropriate to move this up from the “Kristol” thread just for Seixon:
You’re welcome, Seixon. Waiting for your wisdom…..
February 25th, 2007 at 2:27 pmPREEMPTION IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY AND FUTURE OF THE FREE WORLD……..
Comment by PeteB
Yeah, how is that track record working out for you?
How many innocent people must die while these lunatics suicide bomb and murder innocent people
You referring to the 70% of US troops killed by Sunni armed and backed by our ‘allies’ the Saudi? Do you bother thinking before hitting enter and embarrassing yourself?
February 25th, 2007 at 2:28 pmBed-wetters to the right…..thank you.
Comment by Zooey —
Now THAT was funny!
LMAO rotfl.
Crazily of course.
Sharon and Zooey,
Can you remember what the quote from Sharon was about something like this?
“Hello, I am slowski fuehrer something something,
I will be your new something something?
I wanted to save it for the laughs it generates eveytime I think of it, but I can;t for the life of me remember how it went exactly.
Sharon can you?
I thought it would be appropo for ball-knobber-sucker and of course not to be forgotten Stale-Dale
February 25th, 2007 at 2:28 pmPeteB is a typical Reichwingnut psychotic. He lives in a paranoid bizarro world where all 1.2 Billion Moslems are out to get him, and the Iraqis are all going to follow us home.
You Reich Wingnut Chimpylovers are all paranoid psychotics and need to be institutionalized until you stop supporting Chimpy and his thugs.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:30 pmrachel,
I remember the slowski fuhrer, but nothing more. Sorry.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:30 pmkerryinalaska,
So Seixon…..you believe that the “dear leader†will not invade Iran? Thats good to know. Surely the word of some hidden word monger means soooo much. I know that I feel better.
Well, I didn’t believe it 2 years ago, and I still don’t believe it. I’ve been right for two years. How’s your record? What’s a “word monger”?
I also did not believe 2 years ago that Bush would invade Syria or Venezuela, even though many around these parts did. Hugo Chavez has been spoon-feeding the Left a fairytale of Bush invading his country for years. The Left believes it. I don’t. It’s been several years now. Look at the result.
Believe,Believe, Believe….you bushidiots know the world of faith.
Says the person who has believed the same unsubstantiated story for two years….
Believe, Believe….believe that bushit is not as dumb as he looks, not as stupid as he acts, not as illinformed as his actions prove.
Some of us have the ability to look at a person based on their character and not their party identification. Try it some time.
If only we could all stand on that pillar of faith and suck the kool aid.
You truly don’t appreciate how ironic that is, do you? You’ve been believing in the same fishing story for years, and you still believe it. Think Progress has had coolers full of Kool Aid for years, and you’ve had your fill, apparently.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmSeixon
First off I mentioned it yesterday, did you ever consider the possibility that Hersh, by talking about the possibility of an invasion of Iran may have caused the administration to delay such a move?
Second, Iran is meddling in Iraq, that is a given. But who else is? Saudi Arabia most definitely is, and if they are not providing arms, they are providing millions of dollars to Sunni insurgents. So why do we not invade them? It is also likely that weapons companies from Russia and China are selling their products to insurgents, do we invade them? Turkey is meddling in the north, do we invade them? European weapons companies are selling their products to insurgents, do we invade them? And, oh my god, US weapons companies are supplying insurgents also, if not directly, their products still end up in insurgent hands, so do we bomb ourselves?
February 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmThe funny thing is that I’ll be back here one year from now telling you all “I told you so†and then Hersh will pop back up and tell the same story, and you’ll believe him all over again.
I will bet you my mortgage against yours. I live in Santa Barbara. Put up or shut your trap Rape-Public-Can.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmYou’re all a bunch of partisan hack hypocrites.You’re all a bunch of partisan hack hypocrites.
Comment by Seixon — February 25, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Having a little pot calling the kettle black moment? Why so angry, because we don’t bow down to your sheer genius? Get over yourself kiddo. I will be laughing my ass of when you claim to be middle of the road, even though it is very clear you are not.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmZooey,
So William Kristol speculating openly and wishing we’d be tougher on Iran is the same as Hersh claiming as fact based on information from anonymous sources that we are going to attack is the same thing? Why? I wish some people would go to school and learn how to compare things properly, seems to be a sorely lacking skill.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:34 pm” Everyone knows that Iranians are meddling in Iraq,..”
Comment by Seixon
So the hell are we.
“I’ll be back here one year from now telling you…”
Comment by Seixon
Please don’t;save your breath.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pmIran does not seem scared in the slightest ……………
They are NOT using Dollars for petrol anymore
They want an attack , they are proving a theory that America bullies non nuclear weak countries , Iran has many things up its sleeves ????
Whats the end game of an Attack …….. America loses
therefore would be better to talk ,
February 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmSeixon is another reich wingnut troll, spouting the talking point lies about liberals all wanting to surrender and moslems all wanting to kill us.
The NIE says Iran is a bit player in Iraq. Iraqis don’t need to get shaped charge RPG rounds from Iran, they have piles of them all over Iraq that our troops never bothered to secure.
The reichwingnuts’ only solution to the mess we are in, is to make it worse by attacking Iran. Reichwingnuts like PeteB and Seixon are batshit psychotic and should be in a mental hospital with no computers.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmTUESDAY, NOVEMBER 02, 2004
“All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.
This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat.”
-Osama bin Ladin
February 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmSo William Kristol speculating openly and wishing we’d be tougher on Iran is the same as Hersh claiming as fact based on information from anonymous sources that we are going to attack is the same thing? Seixon
No of course not retard. Kristol is a blow hard who has been nothing but wrong with his Nostrodamus predictions. Hersh has sources, verifiable, within the Pentagon that has not been refuted by the Pentagon. Good lord are you that stupid. Of course there is no comparison.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI would bet that Iran has canisters of Nerve gas smuggled though Chavez and in through Mexico and are just wating for the Nod ???? Bet you
February 25th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAshenShard,
First off I mentioned it yesterday, did you ever consider the possibility that Hersh, by talking about the possibility of an invasion of Iran may have caused the administration to delay such a move?
Yes, because that stopped Bush with Iraq. Golf clap. OK, I’ll play. Sure, it’s plausible. So what? Since when did plausible become the thing to hang your hat on?
Second, Iran is meddling in Iraq, that is a given.
Woe, careful there, it seems not everyone around here knows that… You might get called a neocon, fair warning.
But who else is? Saudi Arabia most definitely is, and if they are not providing arms, they are providing millions of dollars to Sunni insurgents.
Well, I haven’t seen any evidence of this, but it certainly is plausible.
So why do we not invade them?
Well, we’re not moving to invade Iran either, so why do you ask?
It is also likely that weapons companies from Russia and China are selling their products to insurgents, do we invade them? Turkey is meddling in the north, do we invade them? European weapons companies are selling their products to insurgents, do we invade them? And, oh my god, US weapons companies are supplying insurgents also, if not directly, their products still end up in insurgent hands, so do we bomb ourselves?
See above. Although, I would point out, that not all of the statements you have made here are in the least factually supportable at all. To you, is a person “supplying weapons” to someone else simply by producing weapons that end up in someone’s hands? In other words, is Apple “supplying” Kim Jong Il with iPods?
Krazny,
It takes a sheer genius to point out that Hersh has been trying to sell this story for over two years without it having appreciably changed at all? Hm. I thought it just took the ability to think critically. I guess that might be considered genius around these parts. See you in 6-12 months. We’ll see who’s kidding who.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHersh has been saying for two years that we are meddling in Iran.
He never predicted an attack on Iran, he just reported that the US was already messing around in Iran and now is planning to be able to attack Iran within 24 hours of Chimpy’s phone call.
The problem with the Reichwingnut psychosis is that it distorts reality so the Reichwingnut spins everything to fit their bizarro worldview.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:42 pmI wish some people would go to school and learn how to compare things properly, seems to be a sorely lacking skill.
Comment by Seixon
But it’s TWO YEARS, Seixon!
Heh. I just love making you waste your precious “epic” responses on my bullshit.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:42 pm-Osama bin Ladin
Comment by ren
He has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, eh?
Hey ren, I was over at AmericaBlog for a while last night, but didn’t see you. :)
February 25th, 2007 at 2:45 pmIran’s president has refused to bow to western threats to freeze his country’s nuclear activities.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday that Iran has “no reverse gear” on its programme to develop nuclear technology.
The fresh defiance was echoed by an Iranian official who said Tehran was ready for any possible scenario “even for war”.
These are strong words - they are not the least bit scared im telling you its a trap - why not try talking
February 25th, 2007 at 2:45 pmThe critical thinking you are missing, is that the takeover of Iran is mentioned in the PNAC, perhaps you should look it up. The Bush administration has made zero threatening moves to any other country in the region. Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan are not exactly the greatest guys in the world, but they are allies. Iran is not.
You seem to have far to much invested in making your rather absurd points, you are rude and abusive, why do you think people tell you to screw off? Get a clue kiddo.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:45 pmTom3,
Seixon is another reich wingnut troll, spouting the talking point lies about liberals all wanting to surrender and moslems all wanting to kill us.
I’ve never said any such thing, ever. But hey, when you don’t have the balls to admit you’re being hoodwinked, why not lie?
The NIE says Iran is a bit player in Iraq. Iraqis don’t need to get shaped charge RPG rounds from Iran, they have piles of them all over Iraq that our troops never bothered to secure.
The NIE says no such thing.
The reichwingnuts’ only solution to the mess we are in, is to make it worse by attacking Iran. Reichwingnuts like PeteB and Seixon are batshit psychotic and should be in a mental hospital with no computers.
LOL! I’m here saying that Bush is NOT going to invade Iran, and you accuse me of wanting to attack Iran. The insanity never stops here at Think Progress, apparently a mental asylum.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pm“So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah.”
-Osama bin Ladin ,2004
February 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pm#
Does anybody have John Binckley’s phone number? I hear they let him out on weekends now. He only winged Reagan but maybe his aim has improved.
Comment by Tom3 — February 25, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
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Tom3 - I was looking for Binkcley earlier or any schitzophrenic with a gun in an earlier post. Where are the Binkcleys of the world when you really need them. Reagon was less of a threat because he slept all of the time. Maybe boy Bush needs some stronger sleeping pills.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pmSeixon….Hello……you have been called out……you gave your word, your credibility that you were willing to wager ‘I’m game’ to back up your prediction.
Your being called out coward. My home in Santa Barbara vs. your trailer. Put up or forever be known as a coward hypocrite not worthy of credence or credibility. Contact me PLEASE. I will have a mutually agreed attorney draw up the papers.
cue crickets.
Yeah………thought so.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:47 pmapparently a mental asylum.
Comment by Seixon
Yet, you are here until 3 am.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:48 pmSeixon… let’s how we are still around to chat in 6 months.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:49 pmTom3 & Coffins,
John Hinckley.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:50 pmOops… “let’s hope we are still around to chat in 6 months.”
February 25th, 2007 at 2:51 pmYour Conscience,
No of course not retard. Kristol is a blow hard who has been nothing but wrong with his Nostrodamus predictions. Hersh has sources, verifiable, within the Pentagon that has not been refuted by the Pentagon. Good lord are you that stupid. Of course there is no comparison.
OK, so Kristol and Hersh have been saying the same thing, but Kristol is wrong and Hersh is right. Ngggghhhh… Verifiable sources? And you evidence this how? The Pentagon has not refuted it?
Ehm, from Hersh’s article:
Oooops. I know you think that calling me stupid will enable to believe what you want without resistance, but now I’ve just proven you’re making shit up as you go along to further your BELIEF.
Tom3,
Hersh has been saying for two years that we are meddling in Iran.
And we still haven’t seen a shred of evidence. I hear Karl Rove got indicted last year. I guess we won’t find out the “truth” until 2123. Or something. You know. Whenever we are all dead and forgotten.
Zooey,
Heh. I just love making you waste your precious “epic†responses on my bullshit.
Well, I sure am glad that you take these issues seriously…….
February 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmThanks, Zooey.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmWhereas the US military puts forth pictures of weapons caches manufactured in Iran, Hersh puts forth… eh.. hmm… gossip
Comment by Seixon
Iran is a significant contributor to attacks on coalition forces, and also supports violence against the Iraqi security forces and the Iraqi people,” said a senior defense official, who was joined by a defense analyst and an explosives expert, both also from the military.
The officials said they would speak only on the condition of anonymity, so the explosives expert and the analyst, who would normally not speak to the news media, could provide information directly. The analyst’s exact title and full name were not revealed to reporters. The officials released a PowerPoint presentation including photographs of the weaponry, but did not allow media representatives to record, photograph or videotape the briefing or the materials on display.
Oh, the strongest evidence the US military could come up: PowerPoint presentation.
What did you say, Seixon?
Credibility is an interesting thing around these parts, apparently.
You got that right. Finally.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pmAfter an Attack on Iran - That would be the end of any American empire , Bin Laden would be the real winner,
February 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pmDoes anybody have John Binckley’s phone number?
Comment by Tom3
Tom3 - I was looking for Binkcley earlier
Comment by CoffinsDrapedWithFlags
I think you all mean John ‘Hinkley’.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:57 pmYour Conscience,
My contact details are at my blog. Go right on ahead and get in touch. I’m sure we can work out a nice little wager.
Juan C,
Yet, you are here until 3 am.
Oh. No. 3AM?!?! What’s the matter grandpa, can’t keep your eyes open past 9PM on the weekends? What’s with all the personal attacks? Anyone? Shallow, ad hominem, mob rule. Think Progress: Where Shallow Hacks Go To Pretend They Know Shit. Hurray!
You’re right. Usually I’d be out at the club at 3AM on a Saturday. Unfortunately I got a visit from Mrs. Flu this weekend. Now… attack me because of that, somehow. Only Nazis get the flu! Yeah, something like that. Have at it.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:57 pmHinkley - yeah, that’s the name I was looking for. Getting old can be tough on the brain… names just slip by. Too much information in the old mental filing cabinet.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:04 pmThanks for the correction. So where is he when we need him?
(Cheney’s office and the White House declined to comment for this story; the Pentagon did not respond to specific queries but said, “The United States is not planning to go to war with Iran.â€)
Comment by Seixon — February 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
They said the same thing in the run-up to war with Iraq. We are now in our fourth year in Iraq.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:05 pmSeixon, TP is blocking my message about your assertion that US military found Iran weapons in Iraq.
I was trying to say that those who said that were under anonimacy and made a Power Point presentation with pictures…
you know, solid evidence. /sarc
Now… attack me because of that, somehow. Only Nazis get the flu! Yeah, something like that. Have at it.
Comment by Seixon
Settle down, kid. And read what I posted. If you see an “attack” in what I say you are delusional. I will try to explain what really happens in a common sense world.
You said: The insanity never stops here at Think Progress, apparently a mental asylum.
Now, that sounds more like an attack in comparison with this: Yet, you are here until 3 am.
Dont be so sensitive if you are insulting first.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:06 pm“It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.
But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations - all praise is due to Allah.”
Osama bin Ladin, 2004
February 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pmUsually I’d be out at the [log cabin] club at 3AM on a Saturday.
Unfortunately I got a visit from Mrs. Flu this weekend.
Comment by Seixon
Enjoy.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pmLets hope Seixon gets the Super Flu and drops dead.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:14 pmNat,
They said the same thing in the run-up to war with Iraq. We are now in our fourth year in Iraq.
That’s nice (quote?) but Your Conscience claimed the Pentagon hadn’t refuted it - they did. He was wrong. That is all.
Juan C,
Dont be so sensitive if you are insulting first.
Oh please. I never insult first. People call me Nazi and all kinds of lame things before I even get here. The fifth post here, before I even show up: “Bush lover Seixon to appear and attempt to debunk Hersh in 3..2..1…”
Treat others as you would like to be treated. You guys treat me like shit, you get the shit back. Simple.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:14 pmWell, I sure am glad that you take these issues seriously…….
Comment by Seixon
I take these issues very seriously, Seixon.
You are the one discounting them.
I just so enjoy laughing my ass off at you.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pmagain under the right article…
also, we are “very far along†towards Marshall Law here at home. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, an act which disallowed our military to take up arms against US, has been eliminated through a rider slipped into the defense appropriatons bill in Oct. ‘06. No links, heard it on Thom Hartman. We have also lost habeas corpus through the Military Commission Act.
The obvious take over of the Middle East and US is terrorizing.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIf ThinkPRogress is a mental asylum, thats only because of the reichwingnut trolls in here. Repukes are all insane.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:17 pmAnd now we’re quoting Osama bin Laden. Alrighty then, I think it’s time I made myself some dinner and let you nuts sort yourselves out. The irony is that you guys will now be hoping that Bush attacks Iran only to be able to rejoice at being able to say I was wrong. That’s how it goes when you let the “rightwing media” take your mind to the woodshed regularly. Have a wonderful evening!
February 25th, 2007 at 3:17 pmfrom wikipedia:
WHERE’S YOUR OUTRAGE?
isn’t seymour myron hersh an america hater?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pmLets hope Seixon gets the Super Flu and drops dead.
I’ve had death threats, now death wishes. You guys really are adorable. I was saying something about hypocrites…
February 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pmI treat all Repuke trolls like shit because they ARE shit.
Repukes support torture, treason, and lying to start wars.
Repukes support taking away our Bill of Rights and our Habeus Corpus.
Repukes are traitors.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pmI just so enjoy laughing my ass off at you.
We’ll see who’s laughing a year from now. ;)
February 25th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIt is spelled Martial law.
Chimpy thinks its Marshall law and he gets to wear a badge and a six-gun. Mister Cheney says he can.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:19 pmSeixon, do the world a favor and blow your brains out.
Sick psychotic liars like you deserve to die painfully.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:21 pmA year from now, Seixon will be laughing…that’s because he will be working for Halliburton as a concentration camp guard…and making the rest of us into soap.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:22 pmMeanwhile, back in Iraq:
Open Question: Could our own “black ops” be responsible for some of the “terrorist bombings”?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pmMy contact details are at my blog. Go right on ahead and get in touch. I’m sure we can work out a nice little wager.
Seixon.
So you are willing to back up your drivel with waging your house. You are on and I will contact you. Formal papers are required with signatures. Will be happy to take your trailer from you.
Your earlier comparison and claim Hersh is without credence is simple tripe and you know it. Your sourcing that the Pentagon is not ‘planning’ to go to war with iran as did Gates is laughable. The claim and verifiabled sources claimed by Hersh is that plans have been drawn up. You would admit that plans have been drawn up. Also you not so naive as to assert Hersh does not have verifiable sources do you?
BTW, don’t you ever grow wearing of carrying water and defending a failed administration and a failed war?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:25 pmWe’ll see who’s laughing a year from now. ;)
Comment by Seixon
Yes, we will.
I really hope it’s you laughing, Seixon, because I don’t relish the alternative.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:27 pmThat’s nice (quote?) but Your Conscience claimed the Pentagon hadn’t refuted it - they did. He was wrong. That is all.
Comment by Seixon — February 25, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Alright they refuted it which doesn’t mean much.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:27 pmRachel, sorry I can’t remember it today either…Short term memory on demand suck’s…Only remember had just seen the slowski turtle’s in a comcast commercial right at the time I wanted to wack a troll….Give me 5 year’s it will come back to me in the long term, this is if we all live that long…Blessings
February 25th, 2007 at 3:31 pmThe irony is that you guys will now be hoping that Bush attacks Iran only to be able to rejoice at being able to say I was wrong. Comment by Seixon — February 25, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
You think you’re that important.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:31 pm“Bush lover Seixon to appear and attempt to debunk Hersh in 3..2..1…
Comment by [B!]
No kidding. :)
Also: Vince P, michael, paul, valiant venus, ballslobber, etc.
Comment by Zooey — February 25, 2007 @ 1:41 pm”
What’s to debunk? He didn’t back anything up with any facts and you losers on the left are falling all over yourselves yelling the sky is falling!
February 25th, 2007 at 3:32 pmRemmeber this will be a war with NO Geneva conventions for a side
THE NO QUARTER WAR
February 25th, 2007 at 3:33 pmsiexon,
all the comments and opinions from the ‘think progress’ crowd are based on the smoke and mirrors the democrat party feeds them everyday.
case and point:
remember, the frenzy over Tom Delay, Karl Rove, Bill Frist and every other single false accusation and grandstanding by the democrat party for the last six years has gone no where.
Gimme a microphone, call a press conference and say something outlandishly false and unprovable, and i’ll show you a desperate democrat.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:34 pmThank you tom3 for the spelling lesson…
Where is the outrage towards our lost rights? We can now be jailed without a trial, our military is now allowed to fire at us if so ordered by this idiot commander - a commander so reckless he will most likely go after Iran?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:38 pmremember, the frenzy over Tom Delay, Karl Rove, Bill Frist and every other single false accusation and grandstanding by the democrat party for the last six years has gone no where.
Comment by ballbuster — February 25, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
There were no false allegations made against anyone in the republic party.
February 25th, 2007 at 3:40 pmWhat’s to debunk? He didn’t back anything up with any facts and you losers on the left are falling all over yourselves yelling the sky is falling!
Comment by michael
Why, michael? How are you going to back up that statement?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pmGimme a microphone, call a press conference and say something outlandishly false and unprovable, and i’ll show you a desperate democrat.
Comment by ballbuster
I’ll fix that for you, ballslobber — Gimme a microphone, call a press conference and say something outlandishly crazy and false and unprovable, and i’ll show you a neo-con troll.
Wipe your chin….
February 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Why, michael? How are you going to back up that statement?
Comment by Zooey — February 25, 2007 @ 3:48 pm”
Gee zooey, having a tough time reading today? Where in that article did he offer any proof?
February 25th, 2007 at 3:59 pm“Where is the outrage towards our lost rights?
Comment by Goehl — February 25, 2007 @ 3:38 pm”
What rights have you lost? I haven’t lost any!
February 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pmGee zooey, having a tough time reading today? Where in that article did he offer any proof?
Comment by michael
Why?
February 25th, 2007 at 4:02 pmWhat rights have you lost? I haven’t lost any!
Comment by michael
why do you say that, michael? Have you actually tested the limits of your rights?
February 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pmWhat rights have you lost? I haven’t lost any!
Comment by michael
I hope for all of us in the future that claim can still be made.
You have to admit the sneaky omission of rights may just catch up with you and I someday.
February 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pm“why do you say that, michael? Have you actually tested the limits of your rights?
Comment by Zooey — February 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm”
Every day! I don’t do anything different today that I didn’t do yesterday and you can say the same for yourself. But if there is something that you were denied maybe you can share it with us?
February 25th, 2007 at 4:39 pm“I hope for all of us in the future that claim can still be made.
Comment by Goehl — February 25, 2007 @ 4:17 pm”
So why the dopey comment in #98?
February 25th, 2007 at 4:41 pmSo why the dopey comment in #98?
Comment by michael
Oh Please.
You are the king of the dopey comments.
February 25th, 2007 at 4:52 pm“You are the king of the dopey comments.
Comment by trueblue — February 25, 2007 @ 4:52 pm”
Care to provide some?
February 25th, 2007 at 5:06 pmBut if there is something that you were denied maybe you can share it with us?
Comment by michael
Nope. I’m asking you. Why would you ask me that question?
February 25th, 2007 at 5:10 pmtrueblue –
**arms crossed, foot tapping**
February 25th, 2007 at 5:10 pmWith regard to STOPPING CHIMPya, this requires a history lesson. Comment #2 above puts it very succinctly. Mine is a bit more involved, but infinitely MORE GRATIFYING…To wit:
February 25th, 2007 at 5:13 pmThe Fifth SHOGUN or “King” of the Tokugawa dynasty of Japan, Tokugawa Tsunayoshi(2/23/1646-2/19/1709) was moderately mentally retarded though of a precocious bent. He was the shogun during the famous 47 Ronin Episode of the Asano clan members. Tsunayoshi sentenced Asano Naganori to death unfairly for committing justifiable mayhem by drawing his sword and striking Kira Yoshinaka within the inner chambers of Edo castle. The clan members avenged their lord’s death by hunting down and killing Kira and telling off Tsunayoshi with their act and then they all committed ritual suicide, this episode in Japanese history famously dramatised in Kabuki plays, literature and film as CHUSHINGURA, or “The Treasury of Loyal Retainers,” the Tale of the 47 Ronin. In addition, Tsunayoshi was a capricious tyrant-despot, nicknamed “The Dog Shogun”(Inu-Kubo) because he passed a law that made it a capital crime to injure or kill a dog or animal, and people who even inadvertently threw rocks at scavenging dogs or animals could be beheaded or worse! Anyway, Tsunayoshi did these and other EXTREME, UNJUST acts until in 1709, his wife stabbed him to death and killed herself in a fit of unbridled rage. Tsunayoshi was BORN in the Year of the Dog in the Asian Animal Zodiac. ALSO BORN IN THE YEAR OF THE DOG(2 February 1946 to 21 January 1947) ARE
GEORGE W. BUSH and LAURA BUSH, his wife AS WELL! NEED I SAY MORE? LAURA, DO YOUR STUFF AND STOP CHIMPya Bushie NOW!!!!!WOOF! WOOF! Barney, bring the SAMURAI SWORD OF VENGEANCE!!!!!
“Nope. I’m asking you. Why would you ask me that question?
Comment by Zooey — February 25, 2007 @ 5:10 pm”
Because you asked me if I have tested the limits of my rights.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:14 pmZooey,
OK,OK!
I’ve been sick of the michael’s here, then went away for a little while. (Here in MA there are school vacations in Feb and April, not March.)
I came back to take a peek and friggin’ michael is still at it.
Jeesh. Sorry.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:15 pm(looking down, kicking imaginary rocks…)
#106, michael, check out:
It Can Happen Here
February 25th, 2007 at 5:16 pmhttp://www.alternet.org/rights/48246/
Jeesh. Sorry.
(looking down, kicking imaginary rocks…)
Comment by trueblue
**sniff**
February 25th, 2007 at 5:24 pm“I came back to take a peek and friggin’ michael is still at it.
Jeesh. Sorry.
(looking down, kicking imaginary rocks…)
Comment by trueblue — February 25, 2007 @ 5:15 pm”
What’s the matter? Can’t deal with me?
February 25th, 2007 at 5:28 pmWhat’s the matter? Can’t deal with me?
Comment by michael
Why, michael? Should she have to?
February 25th, 2007 at 5:34 pm“It Can Happen Here
http://www.alternet.org/rights/48246/
Comment by Amy — February 25, 2007 @ 5:16 pm”
First off I can’t give much credence to a website that has a “Draft Gore For President” link! Of course it can happen here, anything can happen. But thus far it hasn’t unless you are knee jerk liberal with a WILD imagination!
February 25th, 2007 at 5:34 pmCan you give me proof as to why I should have to put up with your endless questions-as-answers?
February 25th, 2007 at 5:39 pmMaybe Seixon and michael really do get paid to write their completely bizarre crap. It is perfectly rational to believe that Bush is planning to attack Iran. In fact, the path Bush is going down is paralleling Iraq so closely that it is damn near irrational to believe otherwise. Seixon’s idiotic theory, stated again and again, that liberal reporters are trying to make Bush look bad, has been blown out of the water by Kristol and the neocons at AEI, who have been saying they are “optimistic” that Bush will attack Iran, and have admitted (bragged) that they are urging him to do it. These are exactly the same people Bush has been relying on for advice all along. Yet Seixon and michael try to casually dismiss it all as though no is going to notice the complete disconnect between what they are saying and reality. Really pathetic. So who would stick with this garbage unless they were actually getting paid to write it? You would have to be a masochist otherwise.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:42 pmOr really, really stupid.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:44 pm“Can you give me proof as to why I should have to put up with your endless questions-as-answers?
Comment by trueblue — February 25, 2007 @ 5:39 pm”
If you can’t answer them then you don’t have to put up with me.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:48 pmOr really, really stupid.
Comment by VerbalKint
That’s the one.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:49 pmFirst off let me state that I hope we do attack Iran, and then Syria! I was challenging you children on the left for using an article by Seymour Hersh as proof positive that a attack was imminent! I challenged all of you to provide one piece of evidence presented in his article to back up his opinion and you couldn’t!
February 25th, 2007 at 5:53 pmIn that case, michael, you’ll make sure your children or grandchildren are the first to land in that hellhole — because it sure as hell won’t be mine.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“I came back to take a peek and friggin’ michael is still at it.
Jeesh. Sorry.
(looking down, kicking imaginary rocks…)
Comment by trueblue — February 25, 2007 @ 5:15 pmâ€
What’s the matter? Can’t deal with me?
Comment by michael —
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Yes she can, but I can too you little cut-n-run motherfu*cker!
I BEGGED you to debate my points yesterday and guess what?
5 fuc*king hours later and nothing but crickets. No Michael.
You’re little buddy vince P. vainly tried to defend you but it was to no avail, I shot his ass right out of the water just like I always do you.
So Michael, you and your “bottom-buddy” Vince P, and BallSucker and Dale and mandolin and seixon, you can all kiss my ASS!
PfFfFfFFfT…..PfFfFfFfT…….ahhhhhhhhhhh
Boy do I feel better now! I just farted Michael, I am sure there was a kiss in there somewhere just for you.
You sort it out.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“I came back to take a peek and friggin’ michael is still at it.
Jeesh. Sorry.
(looking down, kicking imaginary rocks…)
Comment by trueblue — February 25, 2007 @ 5:15 pmâ€
What’s the matter? Can’t deal with me?
Comment by michael —
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Yes she can, but I can too you little cut-n-run motherfu*cker!
I BEGGED you to debate my points yesterday and guess what?
5 fuc*king hours later and nothing but crickets. No Michael.
About your bodycount/dot/org link remember?
You’re little buddy vince P. vainly tried to defend you but it was to no avail, I shot his ass right out of the water just like I always do you.
So Michael, you and your “bottom-buddy” Vince P, and BallSucker and Dale and mandolin and seixon, you can all kiss my ASS!
PfFfFfFFfT…..PfFfFfFfT…….ahhhhhhhhhhh
Boy do I feel better now! I just farted Michael, I am sure there was a kiss in there somewhere just for you.
You sort it out.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:15 pmDid someone just fart?
Oh never mind, it’s just Michael.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:16 pmThe way michael sees things, as long as someone else is arrested and held without a hearing for the rest of his/her natural life, michael’s rights have not been violated.
As long as someone else is waterboarded, michael’s rights have not been violated.
As long as someone else’s country is invaded on a pretext, michael’s rights have not been violated.
Michael is the perfect citizen for a totalitarian country; willfully ignorant.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:18 pmComment by michael — February 25, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Nice to know you hope we violate the right to life of countless innocent children, women and men.
“I challenged all of you to provide one piece of evidence presented in his article to back up his opinion and you couldn’t!”
You first. Bush has no problem insisting his opponents prove a negative, therefore I insist you do likewise. Prove Hersch wrong. If you cannot, then Hersch is right.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:22 pmMichael is a sheep in wolf’s clothing, all you got to do is cut his nuts out like I just did and he is perfectly harmless. Just like the “spoonfed goon” that he/she/it is.
———————————————
Briseadh na Faire,
Namaste!
February 25th, 2007 at 6:22 pm“Yes she can, but I can too you little cut-n-run motherfu*cker!
I BEGGED you to debate my points yesterday and guess what?
5 fuc*king hours later and nothing but crickets. No Michael.
About your bodycount/dot/org link remember?”
First of all, I wasn’t going to give up a wine tasting party to debate an amateur like you! I’m here now. Take your best shot?
February 25th, 2007 at 6:22 pmtrueblue, nice to hear from you again.
Trolls like michael will always be with us. They are the annoying bugs that keep flying towards the light.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:24 pm“The way michael sees things, as long as someone else is arrested and held without a hearing for the rest of his/her natural life, michael’s rights have not been violated”
That’s right! And if those someones who have been arrested were trying to kill Americans they can keep them there for 10 lifetimes!
“As long as someone else is waterboarded, michael’s rights have not been violated”
Right again! If this gets the info from them that we need, waterboard away!
“As long as someone else’s country is invaded on a pretext, michael’s rights have not been violated.
Michael is the perfect citizen for a totalitarian country; willfully ignorant.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Pretext? How about establishing a military presence right between Iran & Syria? I’d say this was a plan! Willfully ignorant? The fact that you have to even ask these questions shows who the ignorant amongst us is.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:29 pmComment by michael — February 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Ok. I pulled a Rune, just for you.
EOH: Change: Reversed.
Normally, Eoh means change for the better. In your case, it is reversed. A journey, not for pleasure, is on your horizon. Abrupt changes will not bring about desired results.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:31 pm“You first. Bush has no problem insisting his opponents prove a negative, therefore I insist you do likewise. Prove Hersch wrong. If you cannot, then Hersch is right.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm”
Learn that type of logic in a public school?
February 25th, 2007 at 6:31 pmCome on michael. What’s the matter, not up to the challenge?
Prove Hersch wrong. If you cannot, then Hersch is right.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
February 25th, 2007 at 6:32 pmYes, BnF, michael is indeed the perfect stooge for a totalitarian government.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:34 pm“Michael is a sheep in wolf’s clothing, all you got to do is cut his nuts out like I just did and he is perfectly harmless.
Comment by rachel rj kinnardi — February 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm”
You just did? Pretty desperate that you find a need to claim victory! I’m waiting?
February 25th, 2007 at 6:35 pmComment by michael — February 25, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Nope. That’s NeoCon logic. Since you support their cause, you should be well-versed in their tactics. What’s the matter, can’t prove Hersch wrong? I’m waiting?
February 25th, 2007 at 6:35 pm“Come on michael. What’s the matter, not up to the challenge?
Prove Hersch wrong. If you cannot, then Hersch is right.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm”
Read #138.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:36 pmTake your best shot?
Comment by michael —
You have taught me a lesson Michael, I spent all that time getting ready to debate with you yesterday and…crickets …no Michael.
I won’t be fooled again by you, nor should anyone else here at TP. When the going get’s a little too tough for you, 100% of the time, you run off leaving your potential debater holding an armload of books and links.
I won’t waste my time with you any longer. Not debating anyway. I have found shall we say, “other uses for you”
Heh.
I pity what you have begun with me you little turdsucking cut and runner.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:41 pmJust before michael pisses his pants, he plays the “public school” card.
Sad little troll. He’s got nothing.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:42 pmrachael - namaste.
Keep up the good work. Your efforts of late are being appreciated by others.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:42 pm“What’s the matter, can’t prove Hersch wrong? I’m waiting?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 25, 2007 @ 6:35 pm”
First of all if you read all my posts you would know that I support invading Iran. I hope his article was accurate! The point I was making is that you lefties looked pretty silly insisting that an invasion was imminent based on a article that had no facts to back it up. Now I know this may be hard for someone of your intellect to understand so maybe you should read my response a couple of times. Sooner or later it will sink in. You know something like Bush lied, Bush lied, Bush lied.
February 25th, 2007 at 6:44 pm“I won’t waste my time with you any longer”
A sure sign of desperation!