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	<title>Comments on: Hersh: Bush Administration Conducting &#8216;Very Aggressive&#8217; Special Operations Inside Iran</title>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/25/hersh-far-along-iran/comment-page-6/#comment-1944423</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is Americas objective. Not Iran.

Iran is nothing but a stepping stone.

As I&#039;ve been following the news on certain issues lately, i&#039;m surprised none of you have seen a picture forming.

The US wants to place anti missile defences in UK and other parts of Europe, some are interestingly close to Russian borders.

I wonder why?

Iraq seems to be nothing more than a base of operations. First, go in take control of the region. You&#039;ve then got yourself an unlimited supply to fuel any war machine.

Build your bases and defenses, hence a war that seems to be going on and on... Makes me wonder who the Americans are actually fighting over there... I suspect they&#039;re fighting each other.

Let your allies pull out.. UK planning on withdrawing a large amount of it&#039;s troops, even though they&#039;ll be sending prince williams troop in...
Wonder if he&#039;ll cop a packet too..just like his mother did.

So... once you&#039;ve got everybodys attention, you then start getting everyone angry at you yourself and I until fever pitch reaches its maximum volume, and when the timings right you move onto your next objective, Iran, which will make China come into the fight.

Which, funnily enough, is what you wanted in the first place. 
So everyone will rally to the cry of their allies, China will be helped by Russia and north Korea, America by UK and... well who knows..

It all stinks.. I&#039;ve had enough. if i&#039;m ever president or prime minister or whatever, i&#039;ll make damned sure that war can never break out again.
I&#039;ll ban it ..full stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is Americas objective. Not Iran.</p>
<p>Iran is nothing but a stepping stone.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve been following the news on certain issues lately, i&#8217;m surprised none of you have seen a picture forming.</p>
<p>The US wants to place anti missile defences in UK and other parts of Europe, some are interestingly close to Russian borders.</p>
<p>I wonder why?</p>
<p>Iraq seems to be nothing more than a base of operations. First, go in take control of the region. You&#8217;ve then got yourself an unlimited supply to fuel any war machine.</p>
<p>Build your bases and defenses, hence a war that seems to be going on and on&#8230; Makes me wonder who the Americans are actually fighting over there&#8230; I suspect they&#8217;re fighting each other.</p>
<p>Let your allies pull out.. UK planning on withdrawing a large amount of it&#8217;s troops, even though they&#8217;ll be sending prince williams troop in&#8230;<br />
Wonder if he&#8217;ll cop a packet too..just like his mother did.</p>
<p>So&#8230; once you&#8217;ve got everybodys attention, you then start getting everyone angry at you yourself and I until fever pitch reaches its maximum volume, and when the timings right you move onto your next objective, Iran, which will make China come into the fight.</p>
<p>Which, funnily enough, is what you wanted in the first place.<br />
So everyone will rally to the cry of their allies, China will be helped by Russia and north Korea, America by UK and&#8230; well who knows..</p>
<p>It all stinks.. I&#8217;ve had enough. if i&#8217;m ever president or prime minister or whatever, i&#8217;ll make damned sure that war can never break out again.<br />
I&#8217;ll ban it ..full stop.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1944423', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ron  smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron  smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was reading the posts and i find it very disturbing, such deep hatred ,reasonless,thoughtless,people just saying the worst thing they can think of   i suppose trying to show of their intellectual humor  i think somthing has happened to us as a people  because you see we no longer act as a people  the polarization displayed here is not much different than what you will find in he middle east   i am not at all happy with the war and i have told my congressman  i for instance don&#039;t think wars should be conducted to liberate anouther culture especialy if we don&#039;t understand that culture  i think wars should be a last resort and if war becomes inevidable then it should be devestating to the enemy i also think that the congress must declare war before this should happen . so you see i am not a bush butt kisser however i am not going to call the president names i&#039;m not going to hope for something terrible to happen to him that would make me look like an idiot and minimize my position and like him or not i am an american  and he&#039;s the president   i was born here i grew up here i went to school where they tought the children to think not like the middel east schools where the children are tought to hate . so who are you people  whats your problem with the war  all i have heard is that you don&#039;t like bush ,you dont like the war  have you contacted youre representitve  i have  or do you just shoot you&#039;re mouthes off trying to sound so intellectual .
there is something wrong with us  i honestly dont think most of realy care that much about it  and i know most of you are not acting like a single people        like americans  and that is even more disturbing more damaging than anything the bush administration  can do  you know a house devided
yes something is very wrong here and it is us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was reading the posts and i find it very disturbing, such deep hatred ,reasonless,thoughtless,people just saying the worst thing they can think of   i suppose trying to show of their intellectual humor  i think somthing has happened to us as a people  because you see we no longer act as a people  the polarization displayed here is not much different than what you will find in he middle east   i am not at all happy with the war and i have told my congressman  i for instance don&#8217;t think wars should be conducted to liberate anouther culture especialy if we don&#8217;t understand that culture  i think wars should be a last resort and if war becomes inevidable then it should be devestating to the enemy i also think that the congress must declare war before this should happen . so you see i am not a bush butt kisser however i am not going to call the president names i&#8217;m not going to hope for something terrible to happen to him that would make me look like an idiot and minimize my position and like him or not i am an american  and he&#8217;s the president   i was born here i grew up here i went to school where they tought the children to think not like the middel east schools where the children are tought to hate . so who are you people  whats your problem with the war  all i have heard is that you don&#8217;t like bush ,you dont like the war  have you contacted youre representitve  i have  or do you just shoot you&#8217;re mouthes off trying to sound so intellectual .<br />
there is something wrong with us  i honestly dont think most of realy care that much about it  and i know most of you are not acting like a single people        like americans  and that is even more disturbing more damaging than anything the bush administration  can do  you know a house devided<br />
yes something is very wrong here and it is us.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1942421', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/25/hersh-far-along-iran/comment-page-6/#comment-1933923</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rhetoric that Regressives use to oppose the US defending itself against Iran is the same Rhetoric the Regressives use whenever the US does anything that is in its interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rhetoric that Regressives use to oppose the US defending itself against Iran is the same Rhetoric the Regressives use whenever the US does anything that is in its interest.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1933923', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gaspard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Gaspard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rhetoric being used in regards to Iran is the same rhetoric that was used in the pre-invasion to Iraq, only the reasons to attack is different. It is becoming more obvious that PNAC is the map that is being followed to implement foreign policy, regardless of how the american people may feel about it. Unless the mainstream media renews its reporting in the way it was intended ;asking the tough questions, giving voice to the voiceless, and showing all sides to a story, we will, as citizens once again find ourselves audience to a conflict , being fought  in our name, that most never wanted to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rhetoric being used in regards to Iran is the same rhetoric that was used in the pre-invasion to Iraq, only the reasons to attack is different. It is becoming more obvious that PNAC is the map that is being followed to implement foreign policy, regardless of how the american people may feel about it. Unless the mainstream media renews its reporting in the way it was intended ;asking the tough questions, giving voice to the voiceless, and showing all sides to a story, we will, as citizens once again find ourselves audience to a conflict , being fought  in our name, that most never wanted to begin with.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1933815', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/25/hersh-far-along-iran/comment-page-6/#comment-1932210</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://the-gathering-storm.blogspot.com/2007/02/winds-of-war-is-there-light-at-end-of.html


Winds of War: Is There a Light at the End of the Tunnel? 

All of us anti-jihadists have for several years blogged about the Islamistâ€™s threat to our freedom loving civilization and those that appease and support that threat. Some of us have tried to educate the masses for many years, others for just a year or less. All of us wonder if we are doing any good or just â€˜preaching to the choirâ€™. So, we might want to stop and take a breather and see some of the advancement in the Muslim communities that the anti-jihadist bloggers is contributing to.


Iâ€™d like to submit that there may just be a light at the end of the tunnel â€“ and that light is not from an oncoming train.


First, think about this fellow bloggers. Many of us have been at this for only several short years and this conflict between the Islamist ideology and that of the free world is just in its beginnings â€“ really. Itâ€™s in its beginnings because we are only now fully understanding the threat that is unfolding and some of us are able to piece together and identify the actual tactics that theyâ€™re using. Itâ€™s becoming clear that there are more than one jihads in play here. Militant jihad is only the most well-known. But the litigation, media, institutional, cultural, demographic, and economic and financial jihads, and the Muslims that support them, are only now being identified.


Second, over the last year or so, there have been individual Muslims or scholars on Islam like Walid, Hirsi Ali, and Spencer who have risen to the challenge, regardless of the mainstream mediaâ€™s ambivalence, and have voiced their opposition to the Islamist agenda.


To me, this is encouraging and should be seen as real progress in such a short time as seen thorough the anti-jihadist window of last few years. Here are some recent examples of why I mean.


Lately, there have been individual but not so publicized news items like these that prove that we are having some effect on the debate. This is an open letter sent by Ibrahim Abdul Muâ€™min, the NY Chapter President of the Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism.


==quote==
I am a Muslim, a Conservative, Patriotic, American-born, anti-terrorist, Muslim. I believe in Allah*, his mercy, and his prophets. I believe in the mission of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)*. Howeverâ€¦ I care nothing for the phony fahtwahs* of mad-mullahs. I denounce the scholars-for-petrol-dollars, the jihad ravings of insane, homicide bombers, and the Wahabi House-of-Saud fraud. I will stand against all terrorist activities, completely, with no apologetic, leftist, misgivings.


It is a deliberate, heretical, misinterpretation of the Holy Qurâ€™an by power-hungry, Islamic-Fascist gangsters who care nothing for the words of Allah or his prophets! It is Fascism*, I have been warned by other Muslims not to use this word... but the oppressive and brutal dictatorships that foster, aid, and abet terrorism can be called nothing else. In this repressive, terrorist view of Islam there is no communion of man and Godâ€¦no beautiful mingling of soul and spiritâ€¦no soft, sweet smells so beloved by the Prophet (pbuh)â€¦. Never. The smell of this type of Fascist Islam is the smell of violence and deathâ€¦the smell of blood and burning.

==unquote==
Another article about Muslimâ€™s who see the danger posed by their mosques.


==quote==


Gina Khan is a British Muslim woman who lives near the men suspected of a plot to kidnap and kill a Muslim soldier. She says that itâ€™s time to stop the radicals, and to stop being afraid of them. Gina Khan is a very brave woman. Born in Birmingham 38 years ago to Pakistani parents, she has run away from an arranged marriage, dressed herself in jeans and dared to speak out against the increasing radicalisation of her community.


Over the past 15 years, she says, there has been an influx of jihadist thinking into her part of Birmingham. Bookshops sell radical literature and the mosques preach separatism and hatred. The Government and the white Establishment have allowed it to happen. And she is outraged about it. â€œItâ€™s all happening on your doorstep,â€ she says, â€œand Britain is still blind to the real threat that is embedded here now.


â€œI truly believe that all these mosques here are importing jihad. The radical teaching is filtering through, and these mosques are not regulated. They are supporting everything that is wrong about Islam. We within the community knew this. People are lying. They are in denial. They knew they were bringing in radicals. â€œBut there are still more English and British people, no matter what, and if they got together and wanted to stamp out this radicalism, they could. I am wasting my time talking to my own people; that is why I am sitting here talking to you, to open your eyes.â€



==unquote==


And this on the veil controversy in the UK.


==quote==

Britain&#039;s first Muslim peer has condemned women wearing veils as &quot;a barrier to integration&quot; and called for an end to their use.

Reigniting the controversial debate over the wearing of the face veil, or niqab, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said there was no religious reason why Muslim women should wear them and that they were now causing society more harm than good.


The Yorkshire peer, who last night spoke out over veils in a debate in the heart of the Arab world, stressed that a sensible discussion was needed urgently within Muslim communities about whether veils represented a danger to integration in British society.

He backed the motion &quot;This House believes the face veil is a barrier to integration in the West&quot; at a debate in Doha, Qatar.


He told the Yorkshire Post: &quot;The veil is now a mark of separation, segregation and defiance against mainstream British culture.

==unquote==

Add these news stories to women questioning the second class status of Muslim women claiming sexism is rife in many Muslim communities, Muslim leaders in Australia back plan to fly the Australian flag outside mosques, and even a Saudi journalist and expert on Islamic movements and Islamic fundamentalism as well as Saudi affairs wrote that the Muslim Brotherhood should be disbanded.


Finally, there are real anti-jihadist organizations that have come into being that are not the mouthpieces of the Islamists.


The Islamic Forum for Democracy was formed in March of 2003 by a group of Muslim professionals in the Phoenix Valley of Arizona. The group&#039;s founder is M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D. He felt that AIFD could formally articulate the fact that in commentary and scholarship that many Muslims believe that they are able to practice their faith more freely and more Islamically in America than in any other place in the world. 

AIFD seeks to make a small contribution to the body of thought which articulates an understanding of Islam which separates religion and state and is in complete harmony with the U.S. Constitution and our citizenship pledge.


In the wake of 9/11 and a series of terrorist attacks in Indonesia, President Wahid and the founder of LibForAll established the LibForAll Foundation - inspired by the methods used by President Wahid&#039;s own ancestors to defend Javanese culture from religious extremism five centuries ago. Within Indonesia, they have formed a network of opinion leaders in the fields of religion, education, popular culture, government, business and the media working to preserve their culture&#039;s enlightened embrace of religious tolerance and diversity in the face of a renewed tide of extremism that is sweeping the entire Muslim world.


Then we have CAIR and the MASâ€“ that blatant supporter of the Islamist cause. But as it turns out, they may not speak for as many Muslims as they think. The 910 Group reports:

==quote==

â€œAn inspection of CAIRâ€™s most recent publicly available IRS Form 990 (2004) shows for that year they received $119,029 in membership dues for that year (line 3). But at $25 per membership (the current rate is $35), that would mean that in 2004, CAIR only had 4,761 dues-paying members â€“ less than 5,000 members out of 8 million Muslims in America. This would mean that CAIR only represents 1 out of every 1,680 Muslims. Even if a lower 6 million Muslim population figure were assumed, CAIR could still only claim representation for 1 out of every 1,260 Muslims for that year.


â€œMAS is in even less representative than CAIR. In 2004, MAS received $87,299 in membership dues -- a dramatic decrease in membership from 2003 ($366,613 in members dues received) and 2002 ($378,993 received). Membership has declined so rapidly for MAS that they have stopped offering memberships on their website altogether, though MAS has not publicly acknowledged, let alone explained, their stunning membership decline since 9/11.â€ 


==unquote==


Are all these positive signs? Donâ€™t know for sure. But there is some courage in the Muslim community when facing those who want to advance the Islamist agenda. It will take some time to see.


Or to quote Einstein, â€œCivilization is a race between education and catastrophe.â€</description>
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<p>Winds of War: Is There a Light at the End of the Tunnel? </p>
<p>All of us anti-jihadists have for several years blogged about the Islamistâ€™s threat to our freedom loving civilization and those that appease and support that threat. Some of us have tried to educate the masses for many years, others for just a year or less. All of us wonder if we are doing any good or just â€˜preaching to the choirâ€™. So, we might want to stop and take a breather and see some of the advancement in the Muslim communities that the anti-jihadist bloggers is contributing to.</p>
<p>Iâ€™d like to submit that there may just be a light at the end of the tunnel â€“ and that light is not from an oncoming train.</p>
<p>First, think about this fellow bloggers. Many of us have been at this for only several short years and this conflict between the Islamist ideology and that of the free world is just in its beginnings â€“ really. Itâ€™s in its beginnings because we are only now fully understanding the threat that is unfolding and some of us are able to piece together and identify the actual tactics that theyâ€™re using. Itâ€™s becoming clear that there are more than one jihads in play here. Militant jihad is only the most well-known. But the litigation, media, institutional, cultural, demographic, and economic and financial jihads, and the Muslims that support them, are only now being identified.</p>
<p>Second, over the last year or so, there have been individual Muslims or scholars on Islam like Walid, Hirsi Ali, and Spencer who have risen to the challenge, regardless of the mainstream mediaâ€™s ambivalence, and have voiced their opposition to the Islamist agenda.</p>
<p>To me, this is encouraging and should be seen as real progress in such a short time as seen thorough the anti-jihadist window of last few years. Here are some recent examples of why I mean.</p>
<p>Lately, there have been individual but not so publicized news items like these that prove that we are having some effect on the debate. This is an open letter sent by Ibrahim Abdul Muâ€™min, the NY Chapter President of the Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism.</p>
<p>==quote==<br />
I am a Muslim, a Conservative, Patriotic, American-born, anti-terrorist, Muslim. I believe in Allah*, his mercy, and his prophets. I believe in the mission of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)*. Howeverâ€¦ I care nothing for the phony fahtwahs* of mad-mullahs. I denounce the scholars-for-petrol-dollars, the jihad ravings of insane, homicide bombers, and the Wahabi House-of-Saud fraud. I will stand against all terrorist activities, completely, with no apologetic, leftist, misgivings.</p>
<p>It is a deliberate, heretical, misinterpretation of the Holy Qurâ€™an by power-hungry, Islamic-Fascist gangsters who care nothing for the words of Allah or his prophets! It is Fascism*, I have been warned by other Muslims not to use this word&#8230; but the oppressive and brutal dictatorships that foster, aid, and abet terrorism can be called nothing else. In this repressive, terrorist view of Islam there is no communion of man and Godâ€¦no beautiful mingling of soul and spiritâ€¦no soft, sweet smells so beloved by the Prophet (pbuh)â€¦. Never. The smell of this type of Fascist Islam is the smell of violence and deathâ€¦the smell of blood and burning.</p>
<p>==unquote==<br />
Another article about Muslimâ€™s who see the danger posed by their mosques.</p>
<p>==quote==</p>
<p>Gina Khan is a British Muslim woman who lives near the men suspected of a plot to kidnap and kill a Muslim soldier. She says that itâ€™s time to stop the radicals, and to stop being afraid of them. Gina Khan is a very brave woman. Born in Birmingham 38 years ago to Pakistani parents, she has run away from an arranged marriage, dressed herself in jeans and dared to speak out against the increasing radicalisation of her community.</p>
<p>Over the past 15 years, she says, there has been an influx of jihadist thinking into her part of Birmingham. Bookshops sell radical literature and the mosques preach separatism and hatred. The Government and the white Establishment have allowed it to happen. And she is outraged about it. â€œItâ€™s all happening on your doorstep,â€ she says, â€œand Britain is still blind to the real threat that is embedded here now.</p>
<p>â€œI truly believe that all these mosques here are importing jihad. The radical teaching is filtering through, and these mosques are not regulated. They are supporting everything that is wrong about Islam. We within the community knew this. People are lying. They are in denial. They knew they were bringing in radicals. â€œBut there are still more English and British people, no matter what, and if they got together and wanted to stamp out this radicalism, they could. I am wasting my time talking to my own people; that is why I am sitting here talking to you, to open your eyes.â€</p>
<p>==unquote==</p>
<p>And this on the veil controversy in the UK.</p>
<p>==quote==</p>
<p>Britain&#8217;s first Muslim peer has condemned women wearing veils as &#8220;a barrier to integration&#8221; and called for an end to their use.</p>
<p>Reigniting the controversial debate over the wearing of the face veil, or niqab, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said there was no religious reason why Muslim women should wear them and that they were now causing society more harm than good.</p>
<p>The Yorkshire peer, who last night spoke out over veils in a debate in the heart of the Arab world, stressed that a sensible discussion was needed urgently within Muslim communities about whether veils represented a danger to integration in British society.</p>
<p>He backed the motion &#8220;This House believes the face veil is a barrier to integration in the West&#8221; at a debate in Doha, Qatar.</p>
<p>He told the Yorkshire Post: &#8220;The veil is now a mark of separation, segregation and defiance against mainstream British culture.</p>
<p>==unquote==</p>
<p>Add these news stories to women questioning the second class status of Muslim women claiming sexism is rife in many Muslim communities, Muslim leaders in Australia back plan to fly the Australian flag outside mosques, and even a Saudi journalist and expert on Islamic movements and Islamic fundamentalism as well as Saudi affairs wrote that the Muslim Brotherhood should be disbanded.</p>
<p>Finally, there are real anti-jihadist organizations that have come into being that are not the mouthpieces of the Islamists.</p>
<p>The Islamic Forum for Democracy was formed in March of 2003 by a group of Muslim professionals in the Phoenix Valley of Arizona. The group&#8217;s founder is M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D. He felt that AIFD could formally articulate the fact that in commentary and scholarship that many Muslims believe that they are able to practice their faith more freely and more Islamically in America than in any other place in the world. </p>
<p>AIFD seeks to make a small contribution to the body of thought which articulates an understanding of Islam which separates religion and state and is in complete harmony with the U.S. Constitution and our citizenship pledge.</p>
<p>In the wake of 9/11 and a series of terrorist attacks in Indonesia, President Wahid and the founder of LibForAll established the LibForAll Foundation &#8211; inspired by the methods used by President Wahid&#8217;s own ancestors to defend Javanese culture from religious extremism five centuries ago. Within Indonesia, they have formed a network of opinion leaders in the fields of religion, education, popular culture, government, business and the media working to preserve their culture&#8217;s enlightened embrace of religious tolerance and diversity in the face of a renewed tide of extremism that is sweeping the entire Muslim world.</p>
<p>Then we have CAIR and the MASâ€“ that blatant supporter of the Islamist cause. But as it turns out, they may not speak for as many Muslims as they think. The 910 Group reports:</p>
<p>==quote==</p>
<p>â€œAn inspection of CAIRâ€™s most recent publicly available IRS Form 990 (2004) shows for that year they received $119,029 in membership dues for that year (line 3). But at $25 per membership (the current rate is $35), that would mean that in 2004, CAIR only had 4,761 dues-paying members â€“ less than 5,000 members out of 8 million Muslims in America. This would mean that CAIR only represents 1 out of every 1,680 Muslims. Even if a lower 6 million Muslim population figure were assumed, CAIR could still only claim representation for 1 out of every 1,260 Muslims for that year.</p>
<p>â€œMAS is in even less representative than CAIR. In 2004, MAS received $87,299 in membership dues &#8212; a dramatic decrease in membership from 2003 ($366,613 in members dues received) and 2002 ($378,993 received). Membership has declined so rapidly for MAS that they have stopped offering memberships on their website altogether, though MAS has not publicly acknowledged, let alone explained, their stunning membership decline since 9/11.â€ </p>
<p>==unquote==</p>
<p>Are all these positive signs? Donâ€™t know for sure. But there is some courage in the Muslim community when facing those who want to advance the Islamist agenda. It will take some time to see.</p>
<p>Or to quote Einstein, â€œCivilization is a race between education and catastrophe.â€<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1932210', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Seixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needless to say, I have still not been contacted by whoever was talking tough about making a wager.

Jexicon,

I do not know of a single (literate) person who would describe a period of 30 months as &quot;months&quot;. Nor do I know of such a person who would describe a period of 10,950 days as &quot;days&quot;. That was just about the most pathetic attempt to defend Hersh&#039;s nonsense yet. He could have said nanoseconds and you would still say he was correct.... Golf clap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needless to say, I have still not been contacted by whoever was talking tough about making a wager.</p>
<p>Jexicon,</p>
<p>I do not know of a single (literate) person who would describe a period of 30 months as &#8220;months&#8221;. Nor do I know of such a person who would describe a period of 10,950 days as &#8220;days&#8221;. That was just about the most pathetic attempt to defend Hersh&#8217;s nonsense yet. He could have said nanoseconds and you would still say he was correct&#8230;. Golf clap.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1927872', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jexicon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/25/hersh-far-along-iran/comment-page-6/#comment-1923373</link>
		<dc:creator>Jexicon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>em&gt;Wow, that sounds just like what he wrote almost exactly two years ago:

The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer. Much of the focus is on the accumulation of intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical, and missile sites, both declared and suspected. The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids.

For all those who demanded the Bush administration prove that Iranians were meddling in Iraq, which they did, how many will demand that Hersh provide any evidence that weâ€™ve been doing any clandestine reconaissance missions inside Iran?

Funny that is, Hersh contradicts his earlier reports today:

BLITZER: And you write that already, some special operations forces, some U.S. intelligence forces have crossed the line and have gone into Iran. Is that right?

HERSH: Oh, yes, thatâ€™s been happening for months. Thereâ€™s been a lot of very aggressive cross-border activity. Itâ€™s more than just casual. There has been a lot of â€” of jumping over the border, chasing bad guys, or people we think are bad guys. Thatâ€™s been going on quite a bit.

Wait, wait, wait. In January 2005, Hersh reported that the administration had been conducting reconaissance missions inside Iran since the summer of 2004. Now heâ€™s saying that US intelligence forces have only been in Iran for months?

Whatâ€™s it going to be Hersh? Were you right in 2005 (well, no) or are you right now (fool me onceâ€¦.)?

Oh well, the drooling liberal masses will eat it up without thinking, as evidenced quite easily here at Think Progress. Good job guys.

Donâ€™t let Hershâ€™s contradictory record get you down. Believe. BELIEVE!

Comment by Seixon â€” February 25, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

-----------------------------&lt;strong&gt;Summer of 2004 was about 30 months ago.  And I guess u never knew that 30 months could be described as &quot;months.&quot;  Just as a person may very well describe something that happened 30 years ago as having happened years ago.  Maybe try some good menatation, so that u might stregthen ur power 2 think critically. &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>em&gt;Wow, that sounds just like what he wrote almost exactly two years ago:</p>
<p>The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer. Much of the focus is on the accumulation of intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical, and missile sites, both declared and suspected. The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids.</p>
<p>For all those who demanded the Bush administration prove that Iranians were meddling in Iraq, which they did, how many will demand that Hersh provide any evidence that weâ€™ve been doing any clandestine reconaissance missions inside Iran?</p>
<p>Funny that is, Hersh contradicts his earlier reports today:</p>
<p>BLITZER: And you write that already, some special operations forces, some U.S. intelligence forces have crossed the line and have gone into Iran. Is that right?</p>
<p>HERSH: Oh, yes, thatâ€™s been happening for months. Thereâ€™s been a lot of very aggressive cross-border activity. Itâ€™s more than just casual. There has been a lot of â€” of jumping over the border, chasing bad guys, or people we think are bad guys. Thatâ€™s been going on quite a bit.</p>
<p>Wait, wait, wait. In January 2005, Hersh reported that the administration had been conducting reconaissance missions inside Iran since the summer of 2004. Now heâ€™s saying that US intelligence forces have only been in Iran for months?</p>
<p>Whatâ€™s it going to be Hersh? Were you right in 2005 (well, no) or are you right now (fool me onceâ€¦.)?</p>
<p>Oh well, the drooling liberal masses will eat it up without thinking, as evidenced quite easily here at Think Progress. Good job guys.</p>
<p>Donâ€™t let Hershâ€™s contradictory record get you down. Believe. BELIEVE!</p>
<p>Comment by Seixon â€” February 25, 2007 @ 2:04 pm</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<strong>Summer of 2004 was about 30 months ago.  And I guess u never knew that 30 months could be described as &#8220;months.&#8221;  Just as a person may very well describe something that happened 30 years ago as having happened years ago.  Maybe try some good menatation, so that u might stregthen ur power 2 think critically. </strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1923373', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tasky: Your vast stupidity has no concept of what Islamism is. If anything the group-think america hating of you and your friends here are the American analog for Jihad.  Totally unhinged, emotional, illogical, rapid automatons, who arrogantly think you&#039;re everyone&#039;s better. but you suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasky: Your vast stupidity has no concept of what Islamism is. If anything the group-think america hating of you and your friends here are the American analog for Jihad.  Totally unhinged, emotional, illogical, rapid automatons, who arrogantly think you&#8217;re everyone&#8217;s better. but you suck.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1919573', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tasky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evil Twins

When you closely examine 21st century Republicanism and Islamic extremism against the light of truth and the facts, there really is no difference.  They are both evil twins.
One twin thinks that it is OK to hijack airliners and murder thousands of people by flying the aircraft into the twin towers of New York.  The other evil twin (21st century republicanism) is OK with that event and actually lets it happen so they can use this tragedy to their self serving advantage.  Both twins use God and religion to justify their lack of integrity, moral deficits and personal crimes against humanity.  Both twins also use God and Religion as a shield to ward off criticism anytime someone exposes their shortcomings, lies and criminal activities.  Both twins only represent a small minority of people and have sociopathic views not shared by the mainstream or majority of any religion or population of people.  In shortâ€¦they are evil twins and they will go to any extreme to get control over the lives and livelihood of others.

In retrospect, Bushâ€™s keepers and handlers must have known to some degree that he was a total screw-up before he first became president.  Bush and his daddy Cheney were both very clueless about being true political statesmen or leaders of this nation.  As such, they did the only thing they knew how to do...  fleece the middle and lower classes of the nation to make the rich even richer.  It is no secret that Bush was the worst governor Texas ever knew and the tax payers of Texas continually got stiffed by Bush and his policies.  Actually, there is nothing that Bush has ever touched that did not turn to crap whether as Governor of Texas or President of the USA. 

And Cheneyâ€¦he is the evil twinâ€™s evil daddy.  He is nothing more then a corporate CEO who likes to see rich corporations prosper from the sweat, blood and life of others.  Thanks to Cheney, Halliburton Corporation has been allowed carte blanch to freely rake in billions in American taxpayerâ€™s money, blood, &amp; lives.  Also, Cheney is the kind of guy who likes to approve and sign anti-gay legislation while at the same timeâ€¦telling the world that it is out of line to make mention of his lesbian daughter, her lesbian lover or out of wedlock pregnancy.  Pretty typical of most Republicans who like to have it both ways.  They claim to be paragons of virtue and morality and this is somehow made manifest with anti-gay rhetoric and anti-gay legislation while they hide the fact that they have gay family members and gay members within their ranks.

Regardless of all the lies that Bush &amp; Cheney made to the people of the USA during the 2000 campaign, the truth is that fact that they were simply liberal neoconservative puppets of the Project for a New American Century and those were the only interests they represented.  In retrospect, it is amazing that the Republican Party was stupid enough to back these 2 idiots considering the damage theyâ€™ve done to the Republican Party.  Money is what got these 2 unqualified maggots into the Whitehouse and that, just like absolute power, only attracts the absolutely corrupt.  In retrospect, Bush &amp; Cheney are both true cowards who never ever served their country which is partially why they run it like true hypocrites.

In any case, here is the timeline of events regarding the evil twin in the USA (21st century republicanism) from the moment it illegally stole the Whitehouse in 2000.

First line of business upon seizing political power in the USA was to ignore any and all credible information from the previous presidential administration regarding the real threat that terrorism posed to this nation.  If that did not work then the other tactic was to lie about having all the facts and put the blame on various agencies.  If that did not work, simply blame the previous president even though that president went to great lengths to educate and warn the new president of the dangers radical Islam posed to the USA.  The Bush presidency has been the best friend that radical Islam and Islamic terrorists could ever have.  These two evil twins just keep ratcheting up the problems with very little to no resistance.

Second line of business was to get a rubberstamp congress.  Translated:   Remove the legal divide that is supposed to exist between Congress and the Whitehouse so that Rove, Bush &amp; Cheney will have no obstacles to promoting their self serving anti-constitutional goals.  Bush took a very long vacation when he first became president and all he did was waste American tax payer dollars going around the country doing anything and everything possible to bolster Republican control of Congress.  It eventually happened.  From that point forward, democracy in this nation had become severely compromised as Congress had ceased to be the voice of the people and had become the Republican auction house for legislation to the highest bidder.  Legislation to make tax cuts for the filthy rich minority of the nation were many of the outcomes here as that is exactly who pushed for the legislation.  This met with little to no resistance when it went through each congressional hurdle.

Third line of business was to allow something horribly tragic to happen to Americans on American soil by foreigners.  We all know this as 9/11.  This was the so called &quot;another pearl harbor&quot; that Bush&#039;s neoconservative handlers and keepers at the Project for a New American Century wanted.  This was the flash point they had waited for in order to promote their murderous power and wealth consolidating plans and it is not a conspiracy theory.  It is a known fact that Bush knew this attack against America was under way long enough to save the second twin tower and it is also a known fact that Cheney conveniently happened to be at NORAD while this attack was going on and that he grounded all military jets.  Cheney personally grounded all available fighter jets so that they could not intercede with the events that were in progress.

After the destruction of the twin towers on 9/11, Rove, Bush, Cheney, the PNAC &amp; their rich wealthy corporate elite knew they could get anything they wanted all at tax payerâ€™s expense and taxpayerâ€™s lives.  From this point...they simply keep this up as long as they can maintain power and control over others.  For the Evil Twin in the USA (21st Century Republicanism), this created the perfect smoke screen for them to get away with anything they wanted all under the disguise of God, Country, Patriotism, fear of terrorism and Protecting the USA.  Raiding the national treasury and diverting upwards towards the rich and elite who did not need the money had never been easier.

For Republicans at the top of the food chain who got a chance to participate in this pathetic little circus, here was the pay off:  

POLITICAL CONTROL &amp; BIG MONEY!!!

1) Fleecing the middle and lower classes of the USA.  Bush has quietly shifted this nation backwards to the dark ages of a â€œtrickle down economy on steroidsâ€ and this one is far more destructive to our nation and to democracy then any past trickle down economy.  This one cuts taxes on the rich, shifts that burden and more to the middle class and spends like there is no tomorrow all while claiming to be conservative.  Itâ€™s amazing that the religious right wing buys into this non-conservative form of government.  However, the one dimensional voting habits of the religious right wing are why they are liked by the Republican Party.  The religious right wing never votes the big picture and always casts their vote for any pathetic waste of skin who claims to be moral or against abortion.  

2) Consolidation of wealth towards the rich, wealthy &amp; elite of the nation.  This is a universal constant during war times and is always the outcome of war profiteering.  History always bears this out and those who understand this always smell a profit to be made in the middle of the shed blood of our citizens.

3) Politicians who are not of, for or by the people but who are in the pockets of a wealthy minority of the country.  Bush, Rove &amp; Cheney are responsible for some of the most corrupt legislation and policies that money can buy.  Bush pimped the presidency and made his republican controlled congress an auction house to the highest bidder.  It worked!  In retrospect, this actually exposed Republicans for what they really are as opposed to the ideology that they claim to stand for.  Itâ€™s like claiming to believe that you are conservative while living a life that is a total lie and is the complete opposite of oneâ€™s stated conservative or family values based beliefs and ideology.

4) Legislation that cuts taxes only for the rich, wealthy &amp; elite under the general lie of tax cuts for all.  The only real beneficiaries of Bushâ€™s tax cuts have been a very small minority of rich wealthy people who do not even need the cuts.  This is typical of neoconservatives and to some degreeâ€¦Republican political tactics regarding taxation.  They claim to be for fewer taxes so the way they approach this is simply to redesign the tax tables so that the middle class pays more in taxes then those who are filthy rich.  That way Republicans can say that they did not increase taxes on the nation.

The end result is still the same which ends up being increased taxation on the middle class to make up for the unnecessary tax cuts Republicans always make for the rich.  In this case, itâ€™s even worse because Bushâ€™s administration has demonstrated Enron style accounting tactics with our nation and his administration has been a terrible steward with our nationâ€™s resources, treasury and lives.  This is truly Satan wearing the costume of conservatism and the face of the religious right wing and Republicans.  Sadlyâ€¦there is absolutely nothing conservative about this current generation of people who belong to 21st century republicanism.

5) Assurances that the rich and wealthy of the nation will not be paying for the financial indiscretions of the Bush / Cheney / Rove Republican circus that has created debt far exceeding all past Democrat presidencies combined.  The way this presidency has being paying for their war mongering has been on wasting our nationâ€™s resources, and largely doing so on credit.  Bush even admits that he does not know who all his administration has borrowed money from in order to finance his daddyâ€™s personal private war of greed and aggression.  However, his administration goes to great lengths to hide this particular truth.  Bush &amp; Cheney have been mortgaging the future of the middle and lower classes of this nation and effectively hiding it.

Our nation currently owes hundreds of millions of dollars to other nations thanks to all the money that the Bush administration has borrowed to waste on war and other illegal, unconstitutional efforts.  Throwing away our tax dollars while borrowing hundreds of millions of dollars from other nations and decreasing taxation on the rich and wealthy has created debt that our grandchildrenâ€™s children will most likely be stuck with.  While economic indicators on Wall Street are constantly touted as evidence that our Nationâ€™s economy is doing great, those numbers can easily dip into the negative in a New York minute if Bush is allowed to drive this nation into further debt. 

Finito

There ya have it.  One evil twin (radical Islam) loves to murder innocent people in the name of Allah and their radical beliefs that are completely outside of mainstream Islam.  The other evil twin (The 21st Century Republicanism of Rove, Bush, his evil daddy Cheney, Neo-conservatism and the PNAC) actually allows the mass murder of their own citizens in the name of God in order to get what they want.  They both got exactly what they wanted starting on 9/11/2001.  

However, the evil twin in the USA probably got more then they wanted.  One constant in this universe is the fact that those who have delusions of personal power and think that they are great usually do not require help from anyone in screwing things up for everyone.  Bush, Cheney, Rove and their kind probably got exactly what their self serving, greedy hearts desired but they are probably clueless regarding the price that they personally will have to pay in the end.  Itâ€™s not over and history will ultimately remember them for the spineless, gutless reptiles that they are along with their many right wing sycophants who share their un-American, un-Christian, un-Godly, un-constitutional views and ideologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evil Twins</p>
<p>When you closely examine 21st century Republicanism and Islamic extremism against the light of truth and the facts, there really is no difference.  They are both evil twins.<br />
One twin thinks that it is OK to hijack airliners and murder thousands of people by flying the aircraft into the twin towers of New York.  The other evil twin (21st century republicanism) is OK with that event and actually lets it happen so they can use this tragedy to their self serving advantage.  Both twins use God and religion to justify their lack of integrity, moral deficits and personal crimes against humanity.  Both twins also use God and Religion as a shield to ward off criticism anytime someone exposes their shortcomings, lies and criminal activities.  Both twins only represent a small minority of people and have sociopathic views not shared by the mainstream or majority of any religion or population of people.  In shortâ€¦they are evil twins and they will go to any extreme to get control over the lives and livelihood of others.</p>
<p>In retrospect, Bushâ€™s keepers and handlers must have known to some degree that he was a total screw-up before he first became president.  Bush and his daddy Cheney were both very clueless about being true political statesmen or leaders of this nation.  As such, they did the only thing they knew how to do&#8230;  fleece the middle and lower classes of the nation to make the rich even richer.  It is no secret that Bush was the worst governor Texas ever knew and the tax payers of Texas continually got stiffed by Bush and his policies.  Actually, there is nothing that Bush has ever touched that did not turn to crap whether as Governor of Texas or President of the USA. </p>
<p>And Cheneyâ€¦he is the evil twinâ€™s evil daddy.  He is nothing more then a corporate CEO who likes to see rich corporations prosper from the sweat, blood and life of others.  Thanks to Cheney, Halliburton Corporation has been allowed carte blanch to freely rake in billions in American taxpayerâ€™s money, blood, &amp; lives.  Also, Cheney is the kind of guy who likes to approve and sign anti-gay legislation while at the same timeâ€¦telling the world that it is out of line to make mention of his lesbian daughter, her lesbian lover or out of wedlock pregnancy.  Pretty typical of most Republicans who like to have it both ways.  They claim to be paragons of virtue and morality and this is somehow made manifest with anti-gay rhetoric and anti-gay legislation while they hide the fact that they have gay family members and gay members within their ranks.</p>
<p>Regardless of all the lies that Bush &amp; Cheney made to the people of the USA during the 2000 campaign, the truth is that fact that they were simply liberal neoconservative puppets of the Project for a New American Century and those were the only interests they represented.  In retrospect, it is amazing that the Republican Party was stupid enough to back these 2 idiots considering the damage theyâ€™ve done to the Republican Party.  Money is what got these 2 unqualified maggots into the Whitehouse and that, just like absolute power, only attracts the absolutely corrupt.  In retrospect, Bush &amp; Cheney are both true cowards who never ever served their country which is partially why they run it like true hypocrites.</p>
<p>In any case, here is the timeline of events regarding the evil twin in the USA (21st century republicanism) from the moment it illegally stole the Whitehouse in 2000.</p>
<p>First line of business upon seizing political power in the USA was to ignore any and all credible information from the previous presidential administration regarding the real threat that terrorism posed to this nation.  If that did not work then the other tactic was to lie about having all the facts and put the blame on various agencies.  If that did not work, simply blame the previous president even though that president went to great lengths to educate and warn the new president of the dangers radical Islam posed to the USA.  The Bush presidency has been the best friend that radical Islam and Islamic terrorists could ever have.  These two evil twins just keep ratcheting up the problems with very little to no resistance.</p>
<p>Second line of business was to get a rubberstamp congress.  Translated:   Remove the legal divide that is supposed to exist between Congress and the Whitehouse so that Rove, Bush &amp; Cheney will have no obstacles to promoting their self serving anti-constitutional goals.  Bush took a very long vacation when he first became president and all he did was waste American tax payer dollars going around the country doing anything and everything possible to bolster Republican control of Congress.  It eventually happened.  From that point forward, democracy in this nation had become severely compromised as Congress had ceased to be the voice of the people and had become the Republican auction house for legislation to the highest bidder.  Legislation to make tax cuts for the filthy rich minority of the nation were many of the outcomes here as that is exactly who pushed for the legislation.  This met with little to no resistance when it went through each congressional hurdle.</p>
<p>Third line of business was to allow something horribly tragic to happen to Americans on American soil by foreigners.  We all know this as 9/11.  This was the so called &#8220;another pearl harbor&#8221; that Bush&#8217;s neoconservative handlers and keepers at the Project for a New American Century wanted.  This was the flash point they had waited for in order to promote their murderous power and wealth consolidating plans and it is not a conspiracy theory.  It is a known fact that Bush knew this attack against America was under way long enough to save the second twin tower and it is also a known fact that Cheney conveniently happened to be at NORAD while this attack was going on and that he grounded all military jets.  Cheney personally grounded all available fighter jets so that they could not intercede with the events that were in progress.</p>
<p>After the destruction of the twin towers on 9/11, Rove, Bush, Cheney, the PNAC &amp; their rich wealthy corporate elite knew they could get anything they wanted all at tax payerâ€™s expense and taxpayerâ€™s lives.  From this point&#8230;they simply keep this up as long as they can maintain power and control over others.  For the Evil Twin in the USA (21st Century Republicanism), this created the perfect smoke screen for them to get away with anything they wanted all under the disguise of God, Country, Patriotism, fear of terrorism and Protecting the USA.  Raiding the national treasury and diverting upwards towards the rich and elite who did not need the money had never been easier.</p>
<p>For Republicans at the top of the food chain who got a chance to participate in this pathetic little circus, here was the pay off:  </p>
<p>POLITICAL CONTROL &amp; BIG MONEY!!!</p>
<p>1) Fleecing the middle and lower classes of the USA.  Bush has quietly shifted this nation backwards to the dark ages of a â€œtrickle down economy on steroidsâ€ and this one is far more destructive to our nation and to democracy then any past trickle down economy.  This one cuts taxes on the rich, shifts that burden and more to the middle class and spends like there is no tomorrow all while claiming to be conservative.  Itâ€™s amazing that the religious right wing buys into this non-conservative form of government.  However, the one dimensional voting habits of the religious right wing are why they are liked by the Republican Party.  The religious right wing never votes the big picture and always casts their vote for any pathetic waste of skin who claims to be moral or against abortion.  </p>
<p>2) Consolidation of wealth towards the rich, wealthy &amp; elite of the nation.  This is a universal constant during war times and is always the outcome of war profiteering.  History always bears this out and those who understand this always smell a profit to be made in the middle of the shed blood of our citizens.</p>
<p>3) Politicians who are not of, for or by the people but who are in the pockets of a wealthy minority of the country.  Bush, Rove &amp; Cheney are responsible for some of the most corrupt legislation and policies that money can buy.  Bush pimped the presidency and made his republican controlled congress an auction house to the highest bidder.  It worked!  In retrospect, this actually exposed Republicans for what they really are as opposed to the ideology that they claim to stand for.  Itâ€™s like claiming to believe that you are conservative while living a life that is a total lie and is the complete opposite of oneâ€™s stated conservative or family values based beliefs and ideology.</p>
<p>4) Legislation that cuts taxes only for the rich, wealthy &amp; elite under the general lie of tax cuts for all.  The only real beneficiaries of Bushâ€™s tax cuts have been a very small minority of rich wealthy people who do not even need the cuts.  This is typical of neoconservatives and to some degreeâ€¦Republican political tactics regarding taxation.  They claim to be for fewer taxes so the way they approach this is simply to redesign the tax tables so that the middle class pays more in taxes then those who are filthy rich.  That way Republicans can say that they did not increase taxes on the nation.</p>
<p>The end result is still the same which ends up being increased taxation on the middle class to make up for the unnecessary tax cuts Republicans always make for the rich.  In this case, itâ€™s even worse because Bushâ€™s administration has demonstrated Enron style accounting tactics with our nation and his administration has been a terrible steward with our nationâ€™s resources, treasury and lives.  This is truly Satan wearing the costume of conservatism and the face of the religious right wing and Republicans.  Sadlyâ€¦there is absolutely nothing conservative about this current generation of people who belong to 21st century republicanism.</p>
<p>5) Assurances that the rich and wealthy of the nation will not be paying for the financial indiscretions of the Bush / Cheney / Rove Republican circus that has created debt far exceeding all past Democrat presidencies combined.  The way this presidency has being paying for their war mongering has been on wasting our nationâ€™s resources, and largely doing so on credit.  Bush even admits that he does not know who all his administration has borrowed money from in order to finance his daddyâ€™s personal private war of greed and aggression.  However, his administration goes to great lengths to hide this particular truth.  Bush &amp; Cheney have been mortgaging the future of the middle and lower classes of this nation and effectively hiding it.</p>
<p>Our nation currently owes hundreds of millions of dollars to other nations thanks to all the money that the Bush administration has borrowed to waste on war and other illegal, unconstitutional efforts.  Throwing away our tax dollars while borrowing hundreds of millions of dollars from other nations and decreasing taxation on the rich and wealthy has created debt that our grandchildrenâ€™s children will most likely be stuck with.  While economic indicators on Wall Street are constantly touted as evidence that our Nationâ€™s economy is doing great, those numbers can easily dip into the negative in a New York minute if Bush is allowed to drive this nation into further debt. </p>
<p>Finito</p>
<p>There ya have it.  One evil twin (radical Islam) loves to murder innocent people in the name of Allah and their radical beliefs that are completely outside of mainstream Islam.  The other evil twin (The 21st Century Republicanism of Rove, Bush, his evil daddy Cheney, Neo-conservatism and the PNAC) actually allows the mass murder of their own citizens in the name of God in order to get what they want.  They both got exactly what they wanted starting on 9/11/2001.  </p>
<p>However, the evil twin in the USA probably got more then they wanted.  One constant in this universe is the fact that those who have delusions of personal power and think that they are great usually do not require help from anyone in screwing things up for everyone.  Bush, Cheney, Rove and their kind probably got exactly what their self serving, greedy hearts desired but they are probably clueless regarding the price that they personally will have to pay in the end.  Itâ€™s not over and history will ultimately remember them for the spineless, gutless reptiles that they are along with their many right wing sycophants who share their un-American, un-Christian, un-Godly, un-constitutional views and ideologies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1919136', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: drew_ill</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew_ill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Chris, #269:

That is some of the WORST butchering of the English language I have ever seen.  You give conspiracy theorists a bad name, dude...  

Give this whole Iran scenario another year and a half.  If it looks like a Democrat (who supports troop pull-out, mind you...) is going to win the Presidency, then you can bet that he&#039;ll pull the trigger on, at the very least, expanding the war into Iran to attack sites supporting Iraqi insurgents.  Then, using the still stalled &quot;talks&quot; with Iran regarding de-nuclearization as an excuse, he&#039;ll launch yet another regime-change attack - this time directed at Ahmadinejad.  We may NEVER get out of the middle east so long as Bushco is running the show...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chris, #269:</p>
<p>That is some of the WORST butchering of the English language I have ever seen.  You give conspiracy theorists a bad name, dude&#8230;  </p>
<p>Give this whole Iran scenario another year and a half.  If it looks like a Democrat (who supports troop pull-out, mind you&#8230;) is going to win the Presidency, then you can bet that he&#8217;ll pull the trigger on, at the very least, expanding the war into Iran to attack sites supporting Iraqi insurgents.  Then, using the still stalled &#8220;talks&#8221; with Iran regarding de-nuclearization as an excuse, he&#8217;ll launch yet another regime-change attack &#8211; this time directed at Ahmadinejad.  We may NEVER get out of the middle east so long as Bushco is running the show&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1918757', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Thiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Thiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we missing the REAL story about Hershâ€™s interview on CNN today. He said today in the last few minutes of the interview, the US is illegally funneling funds to anti-Shia groups throughout the Middle East, these groups the US is financing include 3 jihadist organizations with similar anti-western objectives of Al qaeda. HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT PART OF THE INTERVIEW? WHERE IS THE WHOLE TRANSCRIPT? It is much more important than the first portion of the interview, we know the US is planning to attack Iran, but we have never heard that the US is funding anti-US terrorists, its treason, its tyranny, its the most obviously impeachable offense to get Bush on. GET THE WORD OUT, find the last portion of the interview and POST IT EVERYWHERE. This could actually get him impeached. Can you imagine the headlines in middle Americaâ€¦ US Funds Anti-US Terrorists Groups!!!

It would not surprise me if we are sending brain-washed Guantanomo Bay prisoners to Iraq as suicide bombers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we missing the REAL story about Hershâ€™s interview on CNN today. He said today in the last few minutes of the interview, the US is illegally funneling funds to anti-Shia groups throughout the Middle East, these groups the US is financing include 3 jihadist organizations with similar anti-western objectives of Al qaeda. HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT PART OF THE INTERVIEW? WHERE IS THE WHOLE TRANSCRIPT? It is much more important than the first portion of the interview, we know the US is planning to attack Iran, but we have never heard that the US is funding anti-US terrorists, its treason, its tyranny, its the most obviously impeachable offense to get Bush on. GET THE WORD OUT, find the last portion of the interview and POST IT EVERYWHERE. This could actually get him impeached. Can you imagine the headlines in middle Americaâ€¦ US Funds Anti-US Terrorists Groups!!!</p>
<p>It would not surprise me if we are sending brain-washed Guantanomo Bay prisoners to Iraq as suicide bombers<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1918521', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: el kanuckistani</title>
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		<dc:creator>el kanuckistani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#
Where are the gun carrying schitzophrenics when you need them?&quot;

Comment by CoffinsDrapedWithFlags â€” February 25, 2007 @ 1:37 pm


They only work for the right!</description>
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Where are the gun carrying schitzophrenics when you need them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment by CoffinsDrapedWithFlags â€” February 25, 2007 @ 1:37 pm</p>
<p>They only work for the right!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1918416', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The bottom line is this .
Certain parts of our us government who truly hold power have over the years done the same thing!!!!!
They orcastrait terror attacks on there own people in order to go to war for power and oil !!!! The documents that are free to everyone in the information act that was passed proves this beond a shadow of a doupt....
They have done it in the past and our doing it again !!!!! 
WAKE UP PEOPLE They want world domination!!!!!!! 
We have enough evidence to inpeach the bastards and havent done it yet!!!! Why?????????
ohc bombing is proved to be fbi cia coverup.. it was funded by our government ... And now the fbi has it seald to conceal it . Everyone look at the 9-11 news videos Its a fact there were placed charges ....
I have seen as have many other people , the pentagon servalence video of the suposed 757 hitting the pentigon . hmmmmm ive flown alot of 757&#039;s in my time and that whitch hit the pentigon was by no means a 757 not even close to a 727 ..... The evidence is in our faces and we do nothing . I feel like moving to cuba to stay off the grid when this shit blows up in our faces . Hey theres another one .... john f kennedy was assasinated because he found out our government was going to stage attacks on us soil in order to go to war with ussr and cuba . And yes there is documents backing this up .This shit is proven to be true........ The declassified documents proove it!!!!!!! 

IMPEACH THESE SATANIC RITUAL HOLDING BOHEMIAN GROVE LUNATICS.......&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>The bottom line is this .<br />
Certain parts of our us government who truly hold power have over the years done the same thing!!!!!<br />
They orcastrait terror attacks on there own people in order to go to war for power and oil !!!! The documents that are free to everyone in the information act that was passed proves this beond a shadow of a doupt&#8230;.<br />
They have done it in the past and our doing it again !!!!!<br />
WAKE UP PEOPLE They want world domination!!!!!!!<br />
We have enough evidence to inpeach the bastards and havent done it yet!!!! Why?????????<br />
ohc bombing is proved to be fbi cia coverup.. it was funded by our government &#8230; And now the fbi has it seald to conceal it . Everyone look at the 9-11 news videos Its a fact there were placed charges &#8230;.<br />
I have seen as have many other people , the pentagon servalence video of the suposed 757 hitting the pentigon . hmmmmm ive flown alot of 757&#8217;s in my time and that whitch hit the pentigon was by no means a 757 not even close to a 727 &#8230;.. The evidence is in our faces and we do nothing . I feel like moving to cuba to stay off the grid when this shit blows up in our faces . Hey theres another one &#8230;. john f kennedy was assasinated because he found out our government was going to stage attacks on us soil in order to go to war with ussr and cuba . And yes there is documents backing this up .This shit is proven to be true&#8230;&#8230;.. The declassified documents proove it!!!!!!! </p>
<p>IMPEACH THESE SATANIC RITUAL HOLDING BOHEMIAN GROVE LUNATICS&#8230;&#8230;.</em></strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1917435', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œIslam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole worldâ€¦. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers] Islam says Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us Islam says Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy Islam says Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.â€ - Ayatollah Khomeini


â€œThe final goal of the revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdiâ€. - commandant of Iranâ€™s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi

an advisor to the new Iranian govt says his countryâ€™s objective is the destruction of the evil in the world perputated by England and the nations derived from England

commandant of Iranâ€™s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said on state television, â€œThe final goal of the [1979] revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdiâ€. â€œGod willing, the 21st century will see the defeat of the U.S. and the Zionists, and the victory of freedom-seeking nations of the worldâ€.

Commandant of Iranâ€™s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said on state television. â€œGod willing, the 21st century will see the defeat of the U.S. and the Zionists, and the victory of freedom-seeking nations of the world. The final goal of the [1979] revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdiâ€.

The [Iranians] Presidentâ€™s chief strategist, Hassan Abbassi, has come up with a war plan based on the premise that â€œBritain is the mother of all evilsâ€ â€“ the evils being America, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, the Gulf states and even Canada, all of whom are the malign progeny of the British Empire. â€œWe have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization,â€ says Mr Abbassi. â€œThere are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack themâ€¦ Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover.â€

The IRGC chief warned that Iran was seeing through â€œcritical daysâ€ and â€œfate-determining yearsâ€. He described the purpose of Iranâ€™s 1979 Islamic revolution as the â€œSalvation of Muslimsâ€ from the hands of the â€œoppressive U.S. and Israelâ€.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œIslam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole worldâ€¦. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers] Islam says Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us Islam says Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy Islam says Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.â€ &#8211; Ayatollah Khomeini</p>
<p>â€œThe final goal of the revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdiâ€. &#8211; commandant of Iranâ€™s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi</p>
<p>an advisor to the new Iranian govt says his countryâ€™s objective is the destruction of the evil in the world perputated by England and the nations derived from England</p>
<p>commandant of Iranâ€™s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said on state television, â€œThe final goal of the [1979] revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdiâ€. â€œGod willing, the 21st century will see the defeat of the U.S. and the Zionists, and the victory of freedom-seeking nations of the worldâ€.</p>
<p>Commandant of Iranâ€™s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said on state television. â€œGod willing, the 21st century will see the defeat of the U.S. and the Zionists, and the victory of freedom-seeking nations of the world. The final goal of the [1979] revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdiâ€.</p>
<p>The [Iranians] Presidentâ€™s chief strategist, Hassan Abbassi, has come up with a war plan based on the premise that â€œBritain is the mother of all evilsâ€ â€“ the evils being America, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, the Gulf states and even Canada, all of whom are the malign progeny of the British Empire. â€œWe have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization,â€ says Mr Abbassi. â€œThere are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack themâ€¦ Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover.â€</p>
<p>The IRGC chief warned that Iran was seeing through â€œcritical daysâ€ and â€œfate-determining yearsâ€. He described the purpose of Iranâ€™s 1979 Islamic revolution as the â€œSalvation of Muslimsâ€ from the hands of the â€œoppressive U.S. and Israelâ€.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1913347', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#Comment Spew by PeteB â€” February 25, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

OK LETS WAIT FOR THEM TO KILL US!!? You pacifists are so Null and void of any intelligent reasoningâ€¦.Apparently you all missed that Iranâ€™s leaders goals are to eventually take the world over and rule by Islam Law and oppress all. 

Source?  And don&#039;t say Big-Dick Cheney.  He Lies.

You appeasing fools wonâ€™t get it until they have invaded our country or bombed our allies. How many innocent people must die while these lunatics suicide bomb and murder innocent people before you hippies understand that this is a world wide war that will not be over until one side has sustained so much damage that itâ€™s unbearable to fight again!

Which people, the Iraqui civilians that hadn&#039;t done anything to us?

YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF HIPPIE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY WACKOS. PREEMPTION IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY AND FUTURE OF THE FREE WORLDâ€¦â€¦..

And you have a bunch of foam around your mouth... pretty hard to take you seriously... you might want to wipe that off.

You, sir, are what is wrong with this country.  The pre-emptive &quot;1% Doctrine&quot; is idiotic.  By extension, since I have a 1% belief that you might try to harm me, I can blow your head off.  Right?  Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#Comment Spew by PeteB â€” February 25, 2007 @ 2:13 pm</p>
<p>OK LETS WAIT FOR THEM TO KILL US!!? You pacifists are so Null and void of any intelligent reasoningâ€¦.Apparently you all missed that Iranâ€™s leaders goals are to eventually take the world over and rule by Islam Law and oppress all. </p>
<p>Source?  And don&#8217;t say Big-Dick Cheney.  He Lies.</p>
<p>You appeasing fools wonâ€™t get it until they have invaded our country or bombed our allies. How many innocent people must die while these lunatics suicide bomb and murder innocent people before you hippies understand that this is a world wide war that will not be over until one side has sustained so much damage that itâ€™s unbearable to fight again!</p>
<p>Which people, the Iraqui civilians that hadn&#8217;t done anything to us?</p>
<p>YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF HIPPIE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY WACKOS. PREEMPTION IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY AND FUTURE OF THE FREE WORLDâ€¦â€¦..</p>
<p>And you have a bunch of foam around your mouth&#8230; pretty hard to take you seriously&#8230; you might want to wipe that off.</p>
<p>You, sir, are what is wrong with this country.  The pre-emptive &#8220;1% Doctrine&#8221; is idiotic.  By extension, since I have a 1% belief that you might try to harm me, I can blow your head off.  Right?  Brilliant.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1913260', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;oh look schoolyard sally here to lower things to her level.
Comment by Vince P â€” February 26, 2007 @ 12:21 am&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah sally, why must you always lower things to your level?</description>
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Comment by Vince P â€” February 26, 2007 @ 12:21 am</em></p>
<p>Yeah sally, why must you always lower things to your level?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1912652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh look schoolyard sally here to lower things to her level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh look schoolyard sally here to lower things to her level.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1912588', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Well for my own mental health I dared not go into the Oscars threads for fear the shallowness swallow me whole. Comment by Vince P â€” February 25, 2007 @ 11:47 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Low self esteem, and fear of your own weaknesses.  Yep, you definitely should get mental help - sicko.</description>
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<p>Low self esteem, and fear of your own weaknesses.  Yep, you definitely should get mental help &#8211; sicko.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1912551', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Not TRYING to feel superior here, it just happens!  Comment by michael &lt;/em&gt;

Don&#039;t let Vince fool you.  You&#039;re just as inferior as he is, toilet lickers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Not TRYING to feel superior here, it just happens!  Comment by michael </em></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let Vince fool you.  You&#8217;re just as inferior as he is, toilet lickers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1912546', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Theyâ€™ll make good dhimmis.
Comment by Vince P &lt;/em&gt;

You will, too.  It&#039;s our ultimate plan, you know.</description>
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Comment by Vince P </em></p>
<p>You will, too.  It&#8217;s our ultimate plan, you know.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1912302', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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