Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) “looked awfully cozy nestled between Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) in the Senate press gallery this month, talking up their counterproposal to Democratic legislation critical of President Bush’s troop surge in Iraq,” The Politico reports. “‘Reid doesn’t want to create holy hell in the Democratic blogger world,’ Graham said, speculating why Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was refusing to allow votes on certain Republican amendments. The dig at Lieberman’s Internet nemeses hit his funny bone. The trio giggled in unison.“
Like Harry Reid and the DLC listen to progressives anyway. Not.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:31 pmLieberman is going to switch parties. Don’t get too comfortable in the Senate.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:38 pmYour government is more screwed up than ours.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:39 pmOur oil should stay in Canada and you should get your oil from Iraq.
Do your political things there and leave Canada out of it!
You have Bush. KEEP HIM THERE!
Reid should tell Lieberman to go “Cheney” himself. The Democrats would appear stronger if they kicked his ass out instead of allowing him to initiate the change.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:52 pmAll three of them are cruddy bat slime. Shame on them.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:59 pmLieberman is going to switch parties.—-Vince P
He just might do that eventually……… that is— if he wants to jump to a party that will most surely go down in flames over the next 2 years.
You see— the Democratically-controlled House will still have subpoena power.
The hearings and investigations into Republican party wrongdoings over the past 5-6 years will continue regardless of what ol’ Joe does.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:01 pmWell here we are again with lie-berman in his favorite space grabbing the dem’s by the ball’s…Grrrrrrr. I can’t stand this lieing miserable man, he makes me want to barf just looking at him….I see nothing but evil in that face, just like the rest of this administration….Now there’s a troll of the Harry Potter type complete with the club…Be gone lie-berman you terrible troll..Blessings to every one else.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:04 pmLieberman doesn’t need to change parties, he’s quite comfortable in drag as a Repugnicunt. The Democrats need to quit sucking up to the pathetically weak little sh*t and call his bluff.
Switching allegiances is only valuable as a threat. Show him to be the whore he is.
Then send in Uncle Guido to cut his hamstrings.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:05 pm‘Cause this war sh*t is seriously funny—especially the part about thousands of our men and women in uniformed killed or maimed for lies, greed, and corruption. Or is the real knee-slapper the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians? There’s so much comedy to mine in this, I scarcely know where to begin.
I’m so glad that Joementum and McCain get the joke; I was beginning to feel alone.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:19 pmTraitor Joe LIE-berman is a Trojan-Horse GOPer agent and like Darth Vader he works for the Dark Side. He is a pawn of the Sith Lord Cheney and his stupid sock puppet Dubya Dunce Decider Despot.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:23 pmkimmy I would imagine your attitude is universal… Just look at what our country has become… No longer a proud American.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:30 pmMcPain the pasty-faced flip-flopping schizoid psychopath, LIE-berman the repugnant-repub in Independent’s clothing and Graham the rat-faced creep–THE THREE UNWISE, DUMB MONKEYS who SEE EVIL, HEAR EVIL and SPEAK EVIL, REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THEIR MASTER CHIMPya WHO is 666, EVIL INCARNATE!!!!! SCHMUCKS*!!!!! *(Detestable, Stupid, Idiotic Persons; Jerks; Fools; Gullible Dolts; Pricks; Dorks)
February 26th, 2007 at 11:43 pmsobanos – right on – in 2 years we will do more house cleaning. I seriously doubt the republicans especially those in the senate realize how closely they are being watched. America is sick to death of all the BS.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:46 pm#13 Goehl
What I would find more amusing is if both parties got trounced by third-party candidates. If Democrats don’t take charge soon, that could happen.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:53 pmAshenShard
Greens… possibly.
But we have lost big time as this split the Dems.
I and I feel most probably agree with their agenda.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:02 amAnd to think YOU all voted for Joe just a few years ago for VP. Remember? Oh, if only Joe was only smart enuf to have produced a movie, huh?
February 27th, 2007 at 12:08 amMaybe this year.
#17 Goehl
You never know, the Democratic and Republican parties could lose an equal amount of support to one or two other parties. Either centrist independents will all go over to another third party, or previous Republican voters will go Libertarian, and Democratic will go Green.
Of course, I’m thinking in the most positive of terms. People will likely vote en mass for the two dominant parties as they always have. In that case, as long as the Democrats don’t do something extremely stupid between now and the 2008 election, Dems will take total control of the government.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:12 amLieberman is not going to switch parties any more than Glen Reynolds is going to stop blogging. He is here to hector the rest of us.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:17 amWhen is Tim Johnson going to start voting with the dems?
Well, he was released from (ironically) GW hospital….
http://johnson.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=269538
this is great:
The Senator remains in in-patient care to focus on physical, occupational and speech therapy.
whacha wanna bet the first word he is re-learning is YAH?
February 27th, 2007 at 12:26 amlmfao
;) i know, i surprise myself. lol
February 27th, 2007 at 12:26 amomfg, you guys, i gotta tell ya, i really am having a frikin’ awesome time here.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amballbuster: isn’t thier lunacy amusing?
February 27th, 2007 at 12:34 amwho’s your daddy,…?
Comment by ballbuster
You, ballslobber, are probably your own daddy,if you know what I mean. LOL
February 27th, 2007 at 1:07 amballbuster: isn’t thier lunacy amusing?
Comment by Vince P — February 27, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Talking to the other voices in your head, about the other voices in your head again? Lunatic Vince P(utz)?
February 27th, 2007 at 1:10 amwhen someone types “thier” a small % of the time, I assume it is a typo. But when someone does it 100 straight times like he has——then he is !@#$%^& illiterate !!!!!!!!
February 27th, 2007 at 2:51 amthis is great:
The Senator remains in in-patient care to focus on physical, occupational and speech therapy.
whacha wanna bet the first word he is re-learning is YAH?
lmfao
You think *that’s* funny, you should visit Bldg. 18 at Walter Reed. You’ll pee your pants.
February 27th, 2007 at 7:14 amUnlike the House of Representitives, Senate committees do not alter their make-up in mid session if the majority party changes. If Lieberman switches, it does little of importance.
February 27th, 2007 at 8:53 amSettle down, Beavis.
February 27th, 2007 at 8:54 amWell if Congress keeps wasting time on Non-Binding resolutions, this session will be over before we know it, and then the committees can be reallocated and real work can resume.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:16 amYes, Vince, it’s an everyday laugh to ballbusters at ballbusters.
speaking of DEMS, first they cried….we need a plan. Then, when The Decider gives them A PLAN, they cry…..”We need to revoke the plan.”
You see, there is no pleasing Dems, and that is b’cuz they are mental cases, all of them. like a menopausal woman. LMFAO.
Now, before you get your panties in a bunch, ask yourself; how would ballbuster know this?
hmmm
have a nice day kids, this ballbuster has to drop the kid off at day care, go to work for 8 1/2 hours, commute 45 minutes each way, so I can live my independent life where I am the decider.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:24 amComment by ballbuster #30
I see pain in your future…
…GREAT pain…
…your rotten Karma demands it…
February 27th, 2007 at 9:32 amThey attack Bush for being unilateral with Iraq (even though that’s a lie)
They attack Bush for being multilateral with North Korea
They attack Bush for being preemptive with Iraq
They attack Bush for being reactive with Afghanistan
They attack Bush for having too few troops in Iraq
They attack Bush for increasing troop levels in Iraq
They attack Bush for “staying the course” (another lie)
They attack Bush for changing tactics
They attack Bush for not standing up to Saudi Arabia
They attack Bush for standing up to Iran
They attack Bush for being awake
They attack Bush for sleeping
They attack Bush for being evil incarnate , the center of every intricate secret plan in the world
They attack Bush for being an inlliterate incompetent.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:33 amWhy would Lieberman swithc parties when he’s in a position where both parties have to suck Lil’ Joe.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:34 amNothing to fear here:
MADRID — A dozen radical Islamists have infiltrated the Spanish army garrison in Madrid’s North African enclave of Ceuta, a magazine claimed on Tuesday.
Interviu magazine, citing what it describes as reports from a now-defunct spy unit, said Spanish military intelligence discovered the infiltration.
The unit had been conducting a special review for several years of the army units in Ceuta and Melilla, cities that have large Muslim populations.
The report came as 29 men – including 15 Moroccans – are on trial in Madrid for the 11 March, 2004 train bombings that left 191 dead and more than 1,800 others wounded in the Spanish capital.
The massacre was blamed on Muslim radicals angry with Spain’s then-conservative government for backing the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
Interviu denounced the “fundamentalist infiltration” found by military intelligence in one Ceuta-based unit that has a “long tradition of native troops and today has a large number of soldiers of the Muslim faith”.
In the case of Ceuta, nearly 40 percent of the troops stationed there are Muslims.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:37 amBecause Lieberman is a man of principle. Something Regressives wouldn’t know about.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:37 amBallbuster and Vince P are closeted hypocrites who are very pathetic!
February 27th, 2007 at 9:41 amNothing is as hypocritical as Regressives defending Iran and Islam because it’s Republicans who are opposed to them.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:47 amBallbuster gives the best head around. That’s how he got his name.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:51 amVince P > give it up, because you are a Bush loving fascist > PERIOD.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:09 amhttp://the-gathering-storm.blogspot.com/2007/02/winds-of-war-is-there-light-at-end-of.html
Winds of War: Is There a Light at the End of the Tunnel?
All of us anti-jihadists have for several years blogged about the Islamist’s threat to our freedom loving civilization and those that appease and support that threat. Some of us have tried to educate the masses for many years, others for just a year or less. All of us wonder if we are doing any good or just ‘preaching to the choir’. So, we might want to stop and take a breather and see some of the advancement in the Muslim communities that the anti-jihadist bloggers is contributing to.
I’d like to submit that there may just be a light at the end of the tunnel – and that light is not from an oncoming train.
First, think about this fellow bloggers. Many of us have been at this for only several short years and this conflict between the Islamist ideology and that of the free world is just in its beginnings – really. It’s in its beginnings because we are only now fully understanding the threat that is unfolding and some of us are able to piece together and identify the actual tactics that they’re using. It’s becoming clear that there are more than one jihads in play here. Militant jihad is only the most well-known. But the litigation, media, institutional, cultural, demographic, and economic and financial jihads, and the Muslims that support them, are only now being identified.
Second, over the last year or so, there have been individual Muslims or scholars on Islam like Walid, Hirsi Ali, and Spencer who have risen to the challenge, regardless of the mainstream media’s ambivalence, and have voiced their opposition to the Islamist agenda.
To me, this is encouraging and should be seen as real progress in such a short time as seen thorough the anti-jihadist window of last few years. Here are some recent examples of why I mean.
Lately, there have been individual but not so publicized news items like these that prove that we are having some effect on the debate. This is an open letter sent by Ibrahim Abdul Mu’min, the NY Chapter President of the Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism.
==quote==
I am a Muslim, a Conservative, Patriotic, American-born, anti-terrorist, Muslim. I believe in Allah*, his mercy, and his prophets. I believe in the mission of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)*. However… I care nothing for the phony fahtwahs* of mad-mullahs. I denounce the scholars-for-petrol-dollars, the jihad ravings of insane, homicide bombers, and the Wahabi House-of-Saud fraud. I will stand against all terrorist activities, completely, with no apologetic, leftist, misgivings.
It is a deliberate, heretical, misinterpretation of the Holy Qur’an by power-hungry, Islamic-Fascist gangsters who care nothing for the words of Allah or his prophets! It is Fascism*, I have been warned by other Muslims not to use this word… but the oppressive and brutal dictatorships that foster, aid, and abet terrorism can be called nothing else. In this repressive, terrorist view of Islam there is no communion of man and God…no beautiful mingling of soul and spirit…no soft, sweet smells so beloved by the Prophet (pbuh)…. Never. The smell of this type of Fascist Islam is the smell of violence and death…the smell of blood and burning.
==unquote==
Another article about Muslim’s who see the danger posed by their mosques.
==quote==
Gina Khan is a British Muslim woman who lives near the men suspected of a plot to kidnap and kill a Muslim soldier. She says that it’s time to stop the radicals, and to stop being afraid of them. Gina Khan is a very brave woman. Born in Birmingham 38 years ago to Pakistani parents, she has run away from an arranged marriage, dressed herself in jeans and dared to speak out against the increasing radicalisation of her community.
Over the past 15 years, she says, there has been an influx of jihadist thinking into her part of Birmingham. Bookshops sell radical literature and the mosques preach separatism and hatred. The Government and the white Establishment have allowed it to happen. And she is outraged about it. “It’s all happening on your doorstep,†she says, “and Britain is still blind to the real threat that is embedded here now.
“I truly believe that all these mosques here are importing jihad. The radical teaching is filtering through, and these mosques are not regulated. They are supporting everything that is wrong about Islam. We within the community knew this. People are lying. They are in denial. They knew they were bringing in radicals. “But there are still more English and British people, no matter what, and if they got together and wanted to stamp out this radicalism, they could. I am wasting my time talking to my own people; that is why I am sitting here talking to you, to open your eyes.â€
==unquote==
And this on the veil controversy in the UK.
==quote==
Britain’s first Muslim peer has condemned women wearing veils as “a barrier to integration” and called for an end to their use.
Reigniting the controversial debate over the wearing of the face veil, or niqab, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said there was no religious reason why Muslim women should wear them and that they were now causing society more harm than good.
The Yorkshire peer, who last night spoke out over veils in a debate in the heart of the Arab world, stressed that a sensible discussion was needed urgently within Muslim communities about whether veils represented a danger to integration in British society.
He backed the motion “This House believes the face veil is a barrier to integration in the West” at a debate in Doha, Qatar.
He told the Yorkshire Post: “The veil is now a mark of separation, segregation and defiance against mainstream British culture.
==unquote==
Add these news stories to women questioning the second class status of Muslim women claiming sexism is rife in many Muslim communities, Muslim leaders in Australia back plan to fly the Australian flag outside mosques, and even a Saudi journalist and expert on Islamic movements and Islamic fundamentalism as well as Saudi affairs wrote that the Muslim Brotherhood should be disbanded.
Finally, there are real anti-jihadist organizations that have come into being that are not the mouthpieces of the Islamists.
The Islamic Forum for Democracy was formed in March of 2003 by a group of Muslim professionals in the Phoenix Valley of Arizona. The group’s founder is M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D. He felt that AIFD could formally articulate the fact that in commentary and scholarship that many Muslims believe that they are able to practice their faith more freely and more Islamically in America than in any other place in the world.
AIFD seeks to make a small contribution to the body of thought which articulates an understanding of Islam which separates religion and state and is in complete harmony with the U.S. Constitution and our citizenship pledge.
In the wake of 9/11 and a series of terrorist attacks in Indonesia, President Wahid and the founder of LibForAll established the LibForAll Foundation – inspired by the methods used by President Wahid’s own ancestors to defend Javanese culture from religious extremism five centuries ago. Within Indonesia, they have formed a network of opinion leaders in the fields of religion, education, popular culture, government, business and the media working to preserve their culture’s enlightened embrace of religious tolerance and diversity in the face of a renewed tide of extremism that is sweeping the entire Muslim world.
Then we have CAIR and the MAS– that blatant supporter of the Islamist cause. But as it turns out, they may not speak for as many Muslims as they think. The 910 Group reports:
==quote==
“An inspection of CAIR’s most recent publicly available IRS Form 990 (2004) shows for that year they received $119,029 in membership dues for that year (line 3). But at $25 per membership (the current rate is $35), that would mean that in 2004, CAIR only had 4,761 dues-paying members – less than 5,000 members out of 8 million Muslims in America. This would mean that CAIR only represents 1 out of every 1,680 Muslims. Even if a lower 6 million Muslim population figure were assumed, CAIR could still only claim representation for 1 out of every 1,260 Muslims for that year.
“MAS is in even less representative than CAIR. In 2004, MAS received $87,299 in membership dues — a dramatic decrease in membership from 2003 ($366,613 in members dues received) and 2002 ($378,993 received). Membership has declined so rapidly for MAS that they have stopped offering memberships on their website altogether, though MAS has not publicly acknowledged, let alone explained, their stunning membership decline since 9/11.â€
==unquote==
Are all these positive signs? Don’t know for sure. But there is some courage in the Muslim community when facing those who want to advance the Islamist agenda. It will take some time to see.
Or to quote Einstein, “Civilization is a race between education and catastrophe.â€
February 27th, 2007 at 10:13 amI’m an American. You’re the fascist.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:14 amNo Vince P you are a Bush loving FASCIST, so go straight to Hell.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:17 amLIeberman’s going to switch parties? Go ahead Joe, make our day.
The GOP will still be in the majority, no matter what, until January of 2009 because of the organization resolution.
And, it is very likely that the Democrats will pick up 3 or 4 additional seats in the 2008 election, which would then relegate ole Joe to backbencher status and to membership on the Senate Sanitation Committee.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:40 amHey Vince P. Where did you get that stuff you are smoking?
February 27th, 2007 at 10:41 amSorry, per my post $43 — the DFEMOCRATS will still be in the majority until January 2009 — regardless of whciuh party Joe LIeberman decides is to his cynical, narrow, personal advantage to be in at the moment.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:43 amDon’t have health insurance? Thank a “Fiscal Conservative”!!
February 27th, 2007 at 10:54 amHave health insurance, and joyous about paying taxes on it? Thank a “Fiscal Conservative”!!
Happy to be spending Hundred$ of Billion$ in on an illegal war? Thank a “Fiscal Conservative”!!
Are you a wounded veteran who the VA will no longer give medical treatment? Thank a “Fiscal Conservative”!!
Are you or a family member an injured member of the National Guard, but won’t be given the same medical coverage (such that it is) as someone in the “regular” military? Thank a “Fiscal Conservative”!!
Proud that an entire US city was destroyed, not by two hurricanes or a flood, but by government incompetence and inaction? Thank a “Fiscal Conservative”!!
Nothing like a troll talking to itself.
We despise bush for being unilateral in Iraq while being multilateral in Korea.
Message to the world: if you actually have nuclear weapons, we’ll pussyfoot around and be nice. No weapons? We’ll roll right over you.
We hate Bush for ignoring the Global War On Terror in favor of an imperialist escapade in Iraq..
Tell me, ballbuster–why does Al Qaeda still exist?
Why haven’t we just gone in to Pakistan with a massive force and hounded Osama Bin Laden down? Why have we pussyfooted around Pakistan when they were selling nuclear secrets on the black market?
Why is Osama Bin Laden free?
I don’t know about the others, but I despise George W. Bush for ruining our standing in the world.
He abandons everything in favor of military intimidation–and then screws up military intimidation.
He turns our city on the hill into a midden of torture, secret rendition, violation of habeas corpus, secret police, an array of fat cats enriching themselves on a war that would make Herman Goering green with envy.
And then he loses the war
February 27th, 2007 at 10:54 amBush isn’t Hitler: he Mussolini. Stupid, pompous, posturing–pathetic.
I despise George Bush because he’s pushed us down the path to second-class national status. He turns us from a world leader into a world embarrassment.
We were a bastion of freedom–and George Bush sets up Guantánamo.
We were at the forefront of science–and now we’re denying it and censoring scientists.
We were a land of prosperity–and now we’re becoming a banana republic with an ultra-rich class and a struggling working class.
George Bush savaged America’s honor, violated America’s ideals–and screwed up America’s power.
Damn right I despise him
Remember, there was a mole who was supposedly stealing RNC talking points on the floor of Congress. Oh, the faux outrage it caused…
Well he was not really stealing them after all.
Joe Lieberman was using it as content for the body and spirit of his speaking time… in concert with the republicans.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:04 amI see the troll idiot ballessbuster has taken to laughing at folks who have suffered a stroke. What a jerk. I bet he’s one of those “compassionate conservatives” right?
Hey ballbuster, why do you paid trolls keep doing this? AMERICA has got your number and that of this felonious administration. NO ONE BELIEVES YOU ALL ANYMORE. GET IT???
Investigations, Indictments and Imprisonment for the CIC, His Veep, Sec. of State and his worthless AG, Gonzales.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:12 amwhat is it with right wing nutjobs and their cut and paste jobs here? Can’t they link the source? This is not your writing, Vince, give credit to the authors and we would also like to see for ourselves. Can’t take Republicans word at ANYTHING.
Plagarist and Fascist!!
February 27th, 2007 at 11:16 amIs school out or something? Are are those two 14-year-olds messing up the thread just skipping school today?
February 27th, 2007 at 11:37 amI find it amusing how all these politicians scoff at blogging… Do they not realize we are FAR more likely to vote since we are FAR more motivated than the average joe (or jill)?
We’ll laugh all the way to the ballot box…
February 27th, 2007 at 12:29 pm>No Vince P you are a Bush loving FASCIST, so go straight to Hell.
>Comment by Jay Randal
No, I’m an American, you’re a fascist.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:52 pm>Don’t have health insurance?
Get a job and pay for it , like everyone else.
Unless you people want your women to stay home and spit out 4 kids each, there will never be enough money to sustain any broad entitlement.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:53 pmpdg is mad the United States didn’t invade Pakistan. um, ok. we’re supposed to take you seriously.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:54 pmFreebird: You’re probably the only person who thought I wrote that. Anyone with a brain and who isn’t deranged would know it was a news story from the first line alone.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:55 pmhesiod: If Leiberman switched to GOP, the Republicans would be the majority in the Senate.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:56 pmVince P: As has been stated twice before, Liberman switching to Repub will not change comittee chairs nor the number of Dem/Repub on those comittees. Senate by-laws state that mid session-changes don’t have effect – the determining factor is who caucused as a majority at beginning of that Senate session. This is how it has been for over 200 years and, yes, this exact situation has come up several times.
BTW, the last time this happened was the 2000 Senate (starting jan ‘01), which was 50-50 tie, but Cheney as tie-breaker making it majority Repub. Senator Jeffords switched from R to D in March 2001. Yes, the Senate Majority leader changed to a Democrat, but the committee chairs /number remained Repub all the way through.
February 27th, 2007 at 2:32 pmVince P: As has been pointed out twice before, Lieberman switching parties will not change any of the committee chairs nor the makeup (number of Repub/Dems) of said committees. They key is who caucused as a majority at the beginning of the session. Changes after that would change only the Senate Majority Leader (helpful, but lots of bill introduction and resolution is controlled by the chairs). This is part of the written Senate bylaws, and has been observed for over two hundred years.
And yes, this exact situation has come up several times. Most recent? The 2000 Senate (start jan’01) was at a 50-50 tie, with VP Cheney throwing it to Repubs. Senator Jeffords switched from R to D in March ‘01, making it 49R – 51D. The Senate Majority Leader became a Dem, but all the committees (and numerical superiority for the Rs) stayed Republ all the way through.
February 27th, 2007 at 2:40 pmSorry for the sorta double repost. Sheesh, what a time lag on the update.
February 27th, 2007 at 2:48 pmcloset queens, right vince?
February 27th, 2007 at 2:49 pmballbuster and Vince P
sitting in a tree…
F-O-A-M-I-N-G…
only the vet
could actually see…
They both have…
RABIEs…
February 27th, 2007 at 3:36 pm#62, BABIES with RABIES as well–THAT is what THEY WILL HAVE!!!!!
February 27th, 2007 at 9:20 pm