Lieberman Seeks To Block Iraq Provisions From 9/11 Bill
Lieberman Seeks To Block Iraq Provisions From 9/11 Bill
When Senate leaders first announced their intention to revoke the 2002 Iraq war authorization, they said they planned to attach their legislation to a homeland security bill being debated this week. Thanks to Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who is the chairman of the homeland security committee, that apparently won’t be happening. CongressDaily reports:
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Chairman Lieberman is making it clear he does not want Iraq-related amendments attached to a bill scheduled for floor action this week that would implement unfulfilled recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. Democratic leaders seemed inclined today to hold off introducing Iraq-related amendments to the bill, possibly to avoid upsetting Lieberman and moving him closer to switching party affiliations, which would swing the Senate back to GOP control.
One Democratic aide quoted by CongressDaily says it “depends on whether Republicans push to attach language supportive of President Bush’s so-called surge in U.S. troop strength in the most dangerous areas of Iraq. ‘The Democrats won’t [offer Iraq amendments] if Republicans don’t,‘ this aide said.” Aides to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-MI) say they have not decided how to proceed with the Iraq proposals.
In a Wall Street Journal op-ed today, Lieberman expressed his desire not to have a debate over Iraq, saying “let us declare a truce in the Washington political war over Iraq until” the “end of summer.”
As Glenn Greenwald notes, Lieberman wrote “almost exactly the same op-ed, on the same Wall St. Journal page, more than a year ago,” in effect arguing “that it is therefore our duty as Americans (still) to keep our mouths shut and be led to Victory.”
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I’ll fix it for you, Nico.
Joe Lieberman (Traitor-CT)
Ok.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:41 pmLips Lieberman should keep his mouth until end of summer.
When I heard him on Insannity last week greet Sean, saying, “Sean, you’re a great american”, I projectile vomited out the car window.
Do you think he’s enjoying being the ’swing Senator’?
This little assclown is more than dangerous; he’s totally absorbed with his own self-importance, just like Bushit.
Repuklican money won his campaign.
Repuklican agendas is what he supports.
End of story.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:42 pmFu*k you Lieberman. Traitor.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:43 pmLet’s ask Lieberman how many troops will be sacrificed until the “truce” is over this Summer???? How many more deaths would that be, Holy Joe?? But then, what does he care about the young people dying and being maimed for this illegal invasion of a sovereign nation? What does he care at all???
The democrats need to be totally unconcerned about whether the Rethugs attach language or not and need to take off the gloves and get down to some serious business on behalf of the american people or they will be ousted from office just as quickly as they got in.
If they were smart, they’d realize that most of the impetus which brought them into office had little to do with them or their qualifications; rather, it was because they simply were NOT REPUBLICAN! And, this “honeymoon” will find itself rapidly over if they don’t soon show the american people that they’ve got the mettle and intelligence to take the mandate of the people more seriously.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:43 pmIt’s my understanding that the Democrats would retain majority, even if Lieberman switched parties, due to the Organizing Resolution at the beginning of the session. Is that incorrect?
February 26th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI say the Democratic leadership call Lieberman’s bluff, and “get it over with.” This one man veto power of the legislative agenda is tired already.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:45 pmyou got it right, Zooey! Lieberman has always been a traitor, fraud, and a Republican shill in the democratic party. I can’t imagine that this guy can put on his own socks in the morning no less represent anyone….not to mention the self-delusion of actually thinking the he is a viable contender for the presidency. That’s why he relates to Bush so well - they’re both living in a world of self-delusion.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:45 pmdoes Palooka Joe’s (I) stand for Israel? or what?
February 26th, 2007 at 3:46 pmThe people of CT need to recall this man, NOW! Those Dems who voted for him instead of Lamont are probably kicking themselves in the arse right about now…
February 26th, 2007 at 3:48 pmHow bloody infuriating that the Dem leadership has to bow to this turncoat or give up control of the Senate.
It is time to start backing away from Iraq. We need our troops well rested for the invasion of Iran later this year.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:49 pmFu*k you Lieberman. Traitor.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 26, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
You beat me to those words. But I am going to say them anyway. F*ck Lieberman. I say let him go to the Repubs. Let them have the bastard. Call his bluff. As it stands it pretty much seems like he has the Dems by the balls anyway. Anytime he wants to get his way he’s going to threaten to switch parties. But I don’t see how he can go Repub and keep the Independent vote. Especially with a majority, and more as time goes by, of Americans against the “war.” Maybe he knows that. Get some damned balls, Dems!
February 26th, 2007 at 3:52 pmNot Joe (I-Israel) Lubbermann again?
February 26th, 2007 at 3:53 pmThanks a fycking lot, CT.
At least troll Roger_Roger tells the truth about wanting to attack Iran, unlike troll Sexion who is going to deny it is happening like Baghdad Bob.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:54 pmcan they take back that “chairman” thing?
February 26th, 2007 at 3:54 pmwho the hell put him there anyway?
bumbles ~ as I understand it, the resolution is in force as long as another resolution doesn’t replace it. So in a nutshell, yes, you are incorrect…
February 26th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThe death of this traitor would be a welcome event. I know we are not supposed to enjoy the death of anyone, but this monotone rube enrages me and im done mincing words about how I truely feel. F#ck You Joe.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIt is time to start backing away from Iraq. We need our troops well rested for the invasion of Iran later this year.
Comment by Roger_Roger — February 26, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Bush had the opportunity to back away from Iraq when the Iraqi vice president asked Bush last year to leave. Bush said he would do just that if asked. He lied (surprise).
Besides, Roger, we lose if we leave now. Remember? Funny that you support the enemy.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#10 Do you realize how stupid you sound saying that?
February 26th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThis isn’t the only commitee that could attach this to a bill. Let RedJoe hang himself with this stance. We need a groundswell of dissapproval from the American people and this will not die on the desk of Mr. Nomentum.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pmEven if he does bale, the Democrats will keep their chairmanships of the various committees until 2009…just saying.
February 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pmLieberman’s pathology is deep and very frightening. This war criminal would gladly send all of our children to their deaths rather than admit that the war was a mistake and not in our national interest. And all the while he props up the fascist in the White House whose policies were just soundly rejected by the electorate. Thanks traitor Joe. Thanks Connecticut.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:00 pmIsn’t Joe Lieberman on the Council on Foreign relations?
Bill and Hillary are on the CFR too if I remember correctly.
The CFR is the planning and implementation arm of PNAC if I remember right.
Traitors one and all.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:02 pmInteresting priorities, Joe. You won’t lift a finger to try to hold the administration accountable for screwing up the reconstruction after Katrina. But, you’ll pull out all the stops to keep the bullshit Iraq resolution from being rescinded. How can you find your way home at night with your head buried deep inside Bush’s ass?
February 26th, 2007 at 4:03 pmYou know how Catholics and Christians often find potato chips and tortillas with Mother Theresa’s likeness on them?
I found a used piece of toilet paper with Joe Liebrman’s likeness on it.
Go figure.
Dump this traitors ass and make him an honorary Newt Gingrich/Strom Thurmond Republican now.
-GSD
February 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pmLooks like the Democrats need to court a moderate Republican to switch parties. Who would be a good candidate to make the switch? PA kicked out Ricky Santorum last November and Arlan is up for re-election. Wonder if Arlan would be interested in switching parties? The last time Arlan was up for re-election, the Republics endorsed a Christofascist who lost in the primaries, but barely. Arlan almost lost his seat, AGAIN, only this time to the rightwingers and not to a woman.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pm“let us declare a truce in the Washington political war over Iraq until then”
In the meantime, our soldiers continue to die as they find themselves caught in the middle of a civil war. It’s too bad there won’t be truce and cease fire in Iraq until then, Joe.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#17 I agree that we will lose in Iraq if we pull out early and hand the country over to the terrorists, but Iran is way to big of a problem to let sit. If we can invade Iran and stop its nuke weapon program while still holding Iraq, I am all for that plan. If we have to pull troops out of Iraq for the coming Iran war, it is a neccesary evil. In the end, whatever it takes to stop Iran from building nuke weapons is what is the most important.
I truly hope Iran will come to its senses soon and stop all nuke activities. Sadly, the terrorists leaders ruling Iran don’t seem like the type to stop so we will have to invade later this year. Maybe, just maybe, the peoples of Iran will rise up and topple their terrorist dictators for us. Wishful thinking probably.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:11 pmDemocratic leaders seemed inclined today to hold off introducing Iraq-related amendments to the bill, possibly to avoid upsetting Lieberman….
February 26th, 2007 at 4:11 pmNo wonder the Democrats are labeled as weak. A “non-binding resolution” accomplishes what? A modification of the 2002 resolution does what without republican support? And now we see the Democrats playing “nice” with LIEberman. For what? Isn’t it obvious that 2face Joe KNOWS he’s in a stronger position now than before the elections? For the Democrats to be tip-toeing around this guy defies all logic to me. Call his bluff and let him switch overr so that all of America can witness his hipocrasy. It’s time for the Democrats to stand up for what they SAY they believe in. All I’ve seen so far is calculated action. The American public wants this war ended and poll after poll shows it. So why don’t the Democrats act upon that fact and end this war?
Joe Lieberman is a very small man.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:12 pmWhat is really creepy is the fact you all voted for this guy as VP, yet now talk of him like he is the anti-Christ. How was he good enough to be VP but now he is better off dead? Seems like you are blinded by your party and don’t really care about what the issues are. If they have a D by there name, they are correct, if not, they should die. I get it!!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“Traitors one and all.
Comment by rachel kinnardi — February 26, 2007 @ 4:02 pm”
Rachel, including yourself in this group?
February 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pmLieberman = Flip Flopper
February 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pmLieberman = Traitor
Lieberman = GWB’s butt buddy
Give em hell Joe!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI wonder if during the days of Nazi Germany, Mr. Lieberman would have told us to keep our mouths shut and do what the Fuehrer dictates? Anyone who objected was called a traitor to the state and eliminated one way or another. Is this not why millions of jews were killed? And had it not been for that Holocaust would we have so many Israel uber alles politicians funded by the zionist lobby and likud neocon party?
Lieberman should be told to leave my Democratic party and go play with the repugnant ones…its where he belongs.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:17 pmGood for Joe L. not a part of the leftist surrender lobby, well done. He seems to have learned a lot since being Algore’s running mate. Liebermann has grown while Gore has regressed tragically.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pm#28
Damn straight. He’s gonna be a Rethug anyway. It’s not like they can get an impeachment vote out of him. Let the bastard be painted for what he is, a stinkin, no-good, mealy-mouthed rethuglican asswipe.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:18 pmWe vote for the presidential primary, then whoever is elected chooses their running mate. Don’t you know how these things work. Then everybody goes out and votes for the president and whoever he chose as vice pres goes along for the ride.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:19 pmComment for #30,
February 26th, 2007 at 4:20 pmWe voted for Gore not Lieberman, and last time I checked they didn’t let the public vote on the VP seperate, and I have never seen a canidate put it to vote.
He is stalling until they (the WH) can follow through with the plan to attack Iran.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmNo one votes for VP Roger Dodger. You saying you voted for Dan Quayle?
Joe Lieberman should enjoy his final term as a Senator. This has sealed his fate…
February 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pmWhy not, Bush and the rest of you freaks are trying to send the country to hell.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pmThe fact that Gore chose leiberman as a running mate should tell you a lot about Gore. That’s why I didn’t vote for either of them.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pm[…] Think Progress, we find out that Senate Dems are going to appease Lieberman to stop him from pitching a fit over […]
February 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComment for #34 “Gore has regressed tragically”
HELLO - where you watching the oscar’s last night? Gore has made an oscar winning documentary- He has brought Global warming to front of the news, the west coast is making changes, other countries are listening to what he has to say…….what has Lieberman done, oh yeah blown a bunch of smoke up what ever a**hole will vote for him! He must have blown some up yours…. I thought you were one of those….. better wear protection next time.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pm#30 Roger_Roger
What is really creepy is the fact you all voted for this guy as VP, yet now talk of him like he is the anti-Christ.
I didn’t vote in the vice presidential election that year. I only voted in the presidential election.
Anybody else? Did anyone vote for Lieberman in the vice presidential election?
February 26th, 2007 at 4:27 pmIf Joe wants to officially be Republican, than let him. Sure, the Dems will suffer in the senate, but it’s not like they’re getting all that much done in that chamber anyway. Besides, if Lieberman is hamstringing them as a Democrat, I fail to see how much worse it could be having him “come out.”
Of course, the Dems would lose their chairmanships, and that would bite hard. But sometimes you have to call people out and let the chips fall, so to speak.
God I detest you Joe Lieberman. You are a symbol of everything wrong with the legislators in Washington.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:27 pmThe Democratic party should not be held hostage to Lieberman. Let him bolt to the Republican party if that’s his threat. The Senate will not operate as a Democratic majority if his votes aren’t supportive of the Democrats anyway. So, good riddance. I’m tired of the Republicans pointing out Lieberman as an example of “a reasonable” Democrat. And in ‘08, perhaps there will be a super-majority for the Democrats and Lieberman will be extremely marginalized.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pm“God I detest you Joe Lieberman. You are a symbol of everything wrong with the legislators in Washington.
Comment by B-Red — February 26, 2007 @ 4:27 pm”
Why is that?
February 26th, 2007 at 4:31 pmIf we can invade Iran and stop its nuke weapon program while still holding Iraq, I am all for that plan.
Where in the hell are you going to get the manpower to hold Iraq (what with our friends the British starting to pull out) AND invade Iran? Our troops are going to need a hell of a lot more than just a few months of R & R to prepare for another war. Just how many troops does Iran have? You going to fight only an air war? You going to nuke all the Iranian troops if they gather at the Iraq border? Bomb the hell out of them? Who is going to go in with us? Britain? Ha! Or do you plan on going it alone? You going to go canvass your town to sign up all the young men and women to fight the war with Iran? We already know that N. Korea has nukes. What if they get involved? What if Russia decides to side with Iran? You going to take them on too? What about a spike in the price of oil that will occur? You going to pay $6 or $7 for a gallon of gas? At that price it’d cost $84 to fill up my Dodge Neon.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:31 pmLieberman Seeks To Block Iraq Provisions From 9/11 Bill
Suckin’ Joe just doesn’t think the Iraq provisions belong attached to a Homeland Security Bill, huh? He must not have been listening to GDumbya all these years — Iraq and 9/11 are connected according to him and Darth Cheney.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:32 pmNaturally Joe Lieberman had to exit the Dem Party. The Dem Party is a bunch of fractured coalitions held together with spit and duct tape. As long as you are “brilliant”, hate everyone and everything in the mainstream, you qualify to be a great Democrat. As a patriotic American who honors committments, Joe, understands the nuances of foreign relations - (Note to Sponge - that doesn’t mean sex with a Parisian.)
February 26th, 2007 at 4:32 pmRoger_Roger Looks like you have been shot down… Ouch….
February 26th, 2007 at 4:33 pmTadger Tadger
It is time to start backing away from Iraq. We need our troops well rested for the invasion of Iran later this year.
No amount of american ground troops could take 70 million Iranians with 65% of them aged under 35 ??? American troops would collapse at the first hill in tehran and Tanks and trucks are useless, America only Bullies and attacks weak countrys like most cowards do
February 26th, 2007 at 4:33 pm#34 Patrick1
Good for Joe L. not a part of the leftist surrender lobby, well done.
And who, specifically, is that “leftist surrender lobby” wanting to surrender to? It’s funny that we never see you get pissed off at Bush and Cheney for surrendering to al Qaeda and the Taliban. Isn’t that what happened when they pulled troops out of Afghanistan to go invade Iraq? Obviously, Bush chickened out against bin Laden. That’s why he changed his tune from “dead or alive” to “I don’t really think about him”.
The right-wing al Qaeda-loving surrender lobby. Embrace the fear and failure, Patrick. Run away!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:34 pmThis is enough - I have read that CN can’t recall Lieberman as things now stand, can’t they get a new law enacted that lets them. Or find out where he got all his money during the campaign and put him in jail. There just must be a way to fire this faker.
I called his office and they tried to tell me that Joe supports the troops, when I asked if sending them to war without effective protective equipment was what he called supporting he tried to say again that Lieberman supported the troops. And finally when I asked if he would go to war with a defective helmet he quietly said “no”.
So Lieberman doesn’t support the troops, or his constituents or the American people - that is dereliction of duty.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:36 pmPLC - Lieberman is an example of a reasonable Independent - “Reasonable Democrat” is an oxymoron.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:36 pmWhy is that?
Comment by michael — February 26, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Does your day job involve breaking things open with your skull?
February 26th, 2007 at 4:37 pm#49 valiant venus
Naturally Joe Lieberman had to exit the Dem Party. The Dem Party is a bunch of fractured coalitions held together with spit and duct tape.
Yeah, it’s amazing that we were able to wax your ass in the ‘06 elections. That duct tape is great stuff.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pmDoes your day job involve breaking things open with your skull?
Comment by unbelievable
Heh. He’s a CNA at Walter Reed. He shaves the patients privates before surgery — whether it’s necessary or not.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pm#47 WC
February 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmThese moronis don’t think about consequences. If it looks and smells like a crusade, they are more than willing to have other people’s kids die for it.
hate everyone and everything in the mainstream, you qualify to be a great Democrat.
Comment by valiant venus — February 26, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
You’re confused. These are characteristics of a great republican.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmAs long as you are “brilliant†you qualify to be a great Democrat.
Comment by valiant venus — February 26, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
It’s about time you began to realise that… :D
February 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmMembers of the leftist surrender lobby: John Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Turbin, Harry Reid most of the House and Senate caucus of the Democrat Party.
I believe American troops killed some more Taliban today. So I think you statement about surrendering to Al Qaeda is not correct but you could ask Osama Bin Laden if you can find the hole he is burried in or Mullah Omar if you can find the apartment he is hiding in Tehran. Granted we could go back to when the left was in charge of our national security and Al Qaeda attacked us at will.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmchimpeach #56 ~ Great visual! OWWWCHA!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmWhile Lieberman is full of shit, I think keeping Iraq bills separate from 9/11 bills is actually a good idea. They’re separate issues and we need to stop conflating them.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmHe shaves the patients privates before surgery — whether it’s necessary or not.
Comment by Zooey — February 26, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
This is exactly why I don’t drink anything while reading your comments. LOL
February 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pmI’ll fix it for you, Nico.
Joe Lieberman (Traitor-CT)
Ok.
Comment by Zooey — February 26, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
i’ll fix it even further (I-ct)
what it is really saying is I-israel
February 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pm“Does your day job involve breaking things open with your skull?
Comment by unbelievable — February 26, 2007 @ 4:37 pm”
Nope! It does however require me to keep my eye on you liberals.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:43 pmGranted we could go back to when the left was in charge of our national security and Al Qaeda attacked us at will.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
That was during Bush’s presidency.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmPaid republican troll admission on aisle 67.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmI believe American troops killed some more Taliban today.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Your side also believes in a lot of other nonsense too…
Did you catch 60 Minutes last night? Hmmm? A lot of military personnel are starting to speak out against the war in Iraq. They say that Saddam is gone - so why are we still there? Perhaps you, genius, could enlighten is why we stay in Iraq after we removed Saddam from power and teh Iraqis elected their new leader?
February 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmNope!
It was rhetorical… (Need me to define that for you?)
It does however require me to keep my eye on you liberals.
Comment by michael — February 26, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
Your job requires you to put your eye on people? Gross…
February 26th, 2007 at 4:47 pm[…] Read more Lieberman […]
February 26th, 2007 at 4:48 pmIt does however require me to keep my eye on you liberals.
Comment by michael
Actually, we’re keeping an eye on you.
The 28%-ers are always easy to find, and definitely fun to watch squirm!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:51 pmPaid republican troll admission on aisle 67.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
You think they pay him for his Why Why Why routine? They’re getting ripped off.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:51 pm#67, must be hard to shave those tender areas while not watching what the hell you’re doing!
February 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pmlooks like all of the room temperature IQ trolls are gracing us with their special brand of neocon stupidity today.
Keep posting morons, tis a lovely example of the typical Bush suppporter you keep showing the world.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pmSheesh. It’s a wonder they can remember to breathe.
As long as Sen. Lieberman keeps this bill “clean” I will support his efforts. This amendment rightly belongs on another bill, one this is more directly related to Iraq, perhaps the Defense supplemental bill for Iraq and Afghanistan.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pm70. Why are we still in Germany and Japan? The reasons we are there are obvious. The crowd that has never had any interest in fighting the Islamists of course can’t see that, they don’t believe America is worth defending as we already knew from their defense policies in the 70s and 90s.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThe stupidity of post #30 is self-evident. Vote for vice president? What an idiot, Roger.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:57 pmPatrick
Since Iran was a sworn enemy of the Taliban & al-Qaeda, just why in the Hell would they give sanctuary to the head of the Taliban, Mullah Omar?
Better yet, do you have independently verifiable proof of your bs claim, or is it just one of those “take my word for it” kind of claims?
Really, a mind is a wonderful thing to use for yourself, as opposed to letting others do your thinking for you
You should really give that “thinking for yourself” strategy a try sometime
February 26th, 2007 at 4:59 pmOh, you guys are right, VP’s don’t mean a thing. Dick Cheney afterall means nothing. Any fool dumb enough to try and make news about VP’s (like Cheney) are complete dipshiits. At least that is your logic. So, stop attacking the meaningless VP Cheney. :)
February 26th, 2007 at 5:00 pmWhy are we still in Germany and Japan?
So you can’t answer my question then…
The American Empire. We’re just an extension of the British Empire, really.
Though, I think the official reason is to “protect American interests”… I’ll let you strain your brain to figure out what those ‘interests’ actually are.
The reasons we are there are obvious. The crowd that has never had any interest in fighting the Islamists of course can’t see that, they don’t believe America is worth defending as we already knew from their defense policies in the 70s and 90s.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
Consider why Switzerland doesn’t have to defend itself, and you’ll have the undeniable answer as to why you’re supporting a perpetual war for unattainable peace….
If you genuinely believe this, you’re missing the entire forest because on a single tree that scares the bejeebus out of you. Let go of your paranoia. It’s ruining our country.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:02 pm“Reasonable Democrat†is an oxymoron.
Comment by valiant venus
Of course. - If you are a moron due to being deprived of oxygen because of the constant spinning to avoid reality and facts.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:02 pmThe reasons we are there are obvious.
– Patrick1
So obvious you can’t name even one or provide a link to your source of refference.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:04 pmJust like you think veteran medical services is some kind of welfare.
what a fookin moron you are.
A question for the neocon supporters of Lieberman: Did you vote for the Gore-Lieberman ticket because Lieberman, the “reasonable independent” was on the ticket?
February 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmWhy are we still in Germany and Japan? The reasons we are there are obvious. The crowd that has never had any interest in fighting the Islamists of course can’t see that, they don’t believe America is worth defending as we already knew from their defense policies in the 70s and 90s.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
We don’t have a say in any policy in Germany and the Germans can secure their own nation. We can leave at anytime. And all of this took place shortly after the occupation began.
And stop trying to compare Japan and Germany to Iraq. In WW2 they were the instigators. In Iraq War, Bush was the instigator.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pm#70 - ” A lot of military personnel are starting to speak out against the war in Iraq. They say that Saddam is gone - so why are we still there? ”
What percentage of acrive duty military are speaking out against the war? Lt. Traitor Watada? The same numbers of bad apples who participated in Haditha and Abu Ghraib?
The ones I have noticed taking a more vocal role opposing the war seem to fit the John Kerry description of the modern service volunteer - their goal was not to defend the country or fight her wars - they were looking for free “stuff”. Those who understand the complexities of the mission joined due to a patriotic devotion to their country.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:10 pmIt does however require me to keep my eye on you liberals.
Comment by michael
Oh so now what are you, some kind of secret NSA spy?
Guess that goes along with you having a super secret MOS while in service.
I included you in the list of those I find amazing that there is enough brain function that you remember to breathe, micheal, for obvious reasons.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:15 pmThough probably not obvious to you.
#78 - “The stupidity of post #30 is self-evident. Vote for vice president? What an idiot, Roger.”
You’re right - most people vote for the top of the ticket and treat the VP politely. Until Joe Lieberman! Dems, who love to tout their “open-mindedness” couldn’t congratulate each other enough for nominating a Jew.
Unfortunately, too many non-Jewish Dems are in a league with Jimmy Carter; they wouldn’t be too upset to see Israel gone.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:17 pm#62 Patrick1
Granted we could go back to when the left was in charge of our national security and Al Qaeda attacked us at will.
You mean like 9/11/01? Oh wait, no that was under Bush’s watch. Bin Laden attacked us at will and not only didn’t we catch him, but Bush doesn’t even want to try now. The Dems would like to still go after him, but for some reason Bush isn’t interested in fighting the ones who actually attacked us.
I believe American troops killed some more Taliban today.
That’s nice. We were supposed to have defeated them about five years ago, but Bush decided to let them come back and take over Afghanistan again.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pm“You think they pay him for his Why Why Why routine? They’re getting ripped off.
Comment by Zooey — February 26, 2007 @ 4:51 pm”
I wouldn’t have to ask so many whys if you would make some sensible comments.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:23 pm“looks like all of the room temperature IQ trolls are gracing us with their special brand of neocon stupidity today.
Comment by Wayne — February 26, 2007 @ 4:53 pm”
Care to share some of that stupidity with us?
February 26th, 2007 at 5:26 pm#80 Roger_Roger
Oh, you guys are right, VP’s don’t mean a thing. Dick Cheney afterall means nothing. Any fool dumb enough to try and make news about VP’s (like Cheney) are complete dipshiits. At least that is your logic. So, stop attacking the meaningless VP Cheney. :)
So does that mean you voted for Dick Cheney in the vice presidential election?
February 26th, 2007 at 5:26 pmMichael, Wendy and John called, they want you back in Neverland, pronto.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:28 pm“So obvious you can’t name even one or provide a link to your source of refference.
Just like you think veteran medical services is some kind of welfare.
what a fookin moron you are.
Comment by Wayne — February 26, 2007 @ 5:04 pm”
Patrick, maybe you should provide him a link to “Spelling For Idiots”
February 26th, 2007 at 5:30 pmWhat percentage of acrive duty military are speaking out against the war?
Just soyou know - they said, on air, that they were not liberals. So you can’t use that approach when this one fails.
This many:
http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2007/ 02/ 22/ 60minutes/ main2505412.shtml
Lt. Traitor Watada? The same numbers of bad apples who participated in Haditha and Abu Ghraib?
Nope. There are many more than that. And you know that there are those who oppose the war, but are too afraid to say anything.
The ones I have noticed taking a more vocal role opposing the war seem to fit the John Kerry description of the modern service volunteer - their goal was not to defend the country or fight her wars - they were looking for free “stuffâ€.
Nonsense. Clearly you don’t get that they are ACTIVE duty… That they are still fighting and still following orders.
Those who understand the complexities of the mission joined due to a patriotic devotion to their country.
Comment by valiant venus — February 26, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Maybe… And now that they realize that there isn’t a reason to be there, they expect to be respected enough to be re-deployed home. Any patriotic American wouldn’t ask them to die for a lie… And they have every right to expect that in return for their service, they don’t get put in harm’s way for an egomanical whim…
February 26th, 2007 at 5:30 pmJoe Lieberman is a horse’s ass. Of course we already knew that. I suspect Joe does as well. But I think he likes it. Being a horse’s ass, I mean. It kind of fits.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“Just because we volunteered for the military doesn’t mean we volunteered to put our lives in unnecessary harm and to carry out missions that are illogical and immoral.”
—Marine Sgt. Liam Madden
February 26th, 2007 at 5:30 pm#88 valiant venus
You’re right - most people vote for the top of the ticket and treat the VP politely. Until Joe Lieberman! Dems, who love to tout their “open-mindedness†couldn’t congratulate each other enough for nominating a Jew.
Really? Are there some poll numbers you’d like to share with us? I’ve never heard more than a few people, pundits aside, comment on the fact that Gore chose a Jew. Do you have something that supports your belief that it was a big deal to most Democrats?
February 26th, 2007 at 5:31 pmhttp://www.appealforredress.org/
Many active duty, reserve, and guard service members are concerned about the war in Iraq and support the withdrawal of U.S. troops. The Appeal for Redress provides a way in which individual service members can appeal to their Congressional Representative and US Senators to urge an end to the U.S. military occupation. The first Appeal signatures messages will be were delivered to members of Congress on January 16, to coincide with at the time of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Day in January 2007.
The wording of the Appeal for Redress is short and simple. It is patriotic and respectful in tone.
As a patriotic American proud to serve the nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces and bases from Iraq . Staying in Iraq will not work and is not worth the price. It is time for U.S. troops to come home.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:32 pmCare to share some of that stupidity with us?
Comment by michael
You are doing such a good job yourself, there is no need.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:33 pmkeep it up=)
What is really creepy is the fact you all voted for this guy as VP, yet now talk of him like he is the anti-Christ. How was he good enough to be VP but now he is better off dead? Seems like you are blinded by your party and don’t really care about what the issues are. If they have a D by there name, they are correct, if not, they should die. I get it!!
Comment by Roger_Roger — February 26, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
Ha. The Joe Lieberman who ran as VP is not the same J.L. who ran in 2006. Besides…Lieberman didn’t threaten to throw a tantrum and bolt the Democrat party if he didn’t get chosen as VP candidate.
As a patriotic American who honors committments, Joe, understands the nuances of foreign relations - (Note to Sponge - that doesn’t mean sex with a Parisian.)
Comment by valiant venus — February 26, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
Ha. Joe Lieberman and commitment in the same sentence? Heh. Joe was committed to the Democrats only if they selected him in the 2006 primary. When they didn’t, he gave the party a big f*ck you and ran anyway because he was drunk with power. Personal ambitions over everything else. Commitment? He committed himself to investigating the Bush’s big Katrina f*ck-up and then dropped it.
And Joe Flip Flop from Dailykos’s archives:
CLAIM: “There were some things Vice President Cheney said about Saddam having nuclear weapons, I never bought that.” - Joe Lieberman, Fox Channel 61, 10/8/06 (2:05 in Part 2 of the interview)
FACT: “Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States of America.” - Joe Lieberman, Fox News, 8/4/02
FACT: “We have reason to believe [Iraq] is developing nuclear weapons.” - Joe Lieberman, AP, 10/2/02
FACT: “What’s most frightening, said Lieberman, is that Iraq has chemical and biological weapons, and is rapidly developing nuclear capability.” - Hartford Courant, 1/15/02
February 26th, 2007 at 5:37 pm#98 - You need to expand your playground. Your social circles sound fairly white bread and mayo. From cousins to colleagues, most were EXCITED about the diversity displayed by “Big Tent Al”.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:40 pmI called his office and they tried to tell me that Joe supports the troops, when I asked if sending them to war without effective protective equipment was what he called supporting he tried to say again that Lieberman supported the troops. And finally when I asked if he would go to war with a defective helmet he quietly said “noâ€.
So Lieberman doesn’t support the troops, or his constituents or the American people - that is dereliction of duty.
Comment by Betty — February 26, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
Good for you, Betty! Now write a letter to the editor and let America know what Lieberman thinks!
February 26th, 2007 at 5:41 pm#49 valiant venus
Naturally Joe Lieberman had to exit the Dem Party. The Dem Party is a bunch of fractured coalitions held together with spit and duct tape.
Joe didn’t have to leave the Democrat party. That was plan B, because the fuc*er wanted to get elected no matter what he had to go through. Personal ambition over everything else.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:44 pmCould this be true?
http://politicalinsider.com/ 2007/ 02/ liebermans_switch_wouldnt_flip.html
If Lieberman were to caucus with the Republicans, they would still not take full control of the Senate, despite Vice President Dick Cheney’s ability to break 50-50 ties. This is because of a little-known Senate organizing resolution, passed in January, which gives Democrats control of the Senate and committee chairmanships until the beginning of the 111th Congress.
What’s the difference between now and 2001? A small but important distinction. When the 107th Congress was convened on January 3, 2001, Al Gore was still the Vice President and would be for another two-and-a-half weeks. Therefore, because of the Senate’s 50-50 tie, Democrats had nominal control of the chamber when the organizing resolution came to a vote. With Dick Cheney soon to come in, however, Democrats allowed Republicans to control the Senate in return for a provision on the organizing resolution that allowed for a reorganization of the chamber if any member should switch parties, which Jeffords did five months later. There was no such clause in the current Senate’s organizing resolution.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:46 pmWe didn’t say they were meaningless dipsh!t. We said that we didn’t vote for him. You are pretty good at putting words in other peoples mouths. If you did it in person, you would would be a laughing stock. Well, you are a laughing stock, just not in person.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:52 pm#102 valiant venus
You need to expand your playground. Your social circles sound fairly white bread and mayo. From cousins to colleagues, most were EXCITED about the diversity displayed by “Big Tent Alâ€.
Oh. So, you’re saying you pulled it out of your ass.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:52 pmGranted we could go back to when the left was in charge of our national security and Al Qaeda attacked us at will.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
You mean the months between Jan. 20, 2001 and Sept. 10, 2001.
Tell us again, Patrick1, what Bush did to punish al Qaeda for the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole when it was announced that terrorist group was responsible for that attack on the U.S. after he was sworn in yet before 9/11?
Tell us again, Patrick1, when Bush held his first cabinet-level meeting on terrorism after being sworn in?
And while you are answering those historical questions, perhaps you can tell us why even the President himself does not think he was elected in 2000. Read his biography on the WH web site lately? It begins…
February 26th, 2007 at 5:53 pm70. Why are we still in Germany and Japan?
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
I give up.
February 26th, 2007 at 6:01 pmCan the Senate Uncertify Joe’s election results and throw him out of the Senate?
February 26th, 2007 at 6:07 pmPatrick, maybe you should provide him a link to “Spelling For Idiotsâ€
Comment by michael — February 26, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Gee…I thought “Michael” was supposed to be capitalized.
February 26th, 2007 at 6:07 pmCome on, Roger_Roger. Answer my post at 4:31pm.
February 26th, 2007 at 6:09 pmThe United States of America was attacked four times in the 1990s by Al Qaeda, the response? Blow up a tent and an aspirin factory. Al Qaeda declared war on the United States in 1995, the response? A cigar for Monica Lewinsky. The 9/11 attacks were planned in 1998, the response? Sandy Burglar steals documents out of the National Archives. America was run out of Somalia in 1993, leading Osama Bin Laden to believe that America did not have the will to fight. He was right about the American left but wrong about George Bush.
February 26th, 2007 at 6:20 pmThe Battle for Baghdad Begins
StrategyPage.com ^ | February 23, 2007 | James Dunnigan
How are the bad guys doing in Iraq? The Iraqi media is full of information on what the various Sunni, Shia and Kurdish factions are up to. Lots of the reporting is speculation, but a lot of it is not. If you’ve been following the action long enough, you can pick out the accurate stories. And the talk on the street and in the shops is also pretty dependable. That said, most people believe al Qaeda in Iraq is finished. After boasting last Fall that they would establish a safe zone in western Iraq, and failing to do anything close to that, the Islamic terrorists lost whatever credibility they had left. Most of the terrorist bombings these days are the work of Iraqi Sunni Arab organizations, who still believe that if you make the Iraqi Shia Arabs mad enough, they will get so nasty that neighboring Sunni Arab nations will feel compelled to invade. This plan has split the Sunni Arab nationalists, mainly because the invasion shows no sign of happening, and the brighter terrorists point out that the Saudi army is unlikely to win against the Americans. In a trend that began two years ago, Sunni Arab factions are continuing to battle each other. U.S. troops stand aside when they encounter “Red-on-Red” fighting, then deal with the winner.
Meanwhile, the Iraqi Shia Arab militias, especially the Sadr forces (the Mahdi Army), have lost whatever unity and discipline they once had. Factionalism has taken over as several of Sadr’s lieutenants compete for popularity and territory by driving Sunni Arabs out of Baghdad neighborhoods. Most of Iraq’s Sunni Arabs have been chased from their homes since 2003, and that process has accelerated in the last year. The Iraqi Sunni Arabs are quite wealthy compared to Iraqi Shia, and the Shia gangs have been fighting each other over the loot, and the power. Gang war, literally, because many of the militiamen moonlight as gangsters (or vice versa).
While the number of terror bombings has been declining in the past year, the crime rate has not, and most people in central Iraq are looking forward to the “Battle for Baghdad.” Brigades of troops are arriving from the Kurdish north and Shia south, and more American troops can be seen on the streets. There are more raids in Baghdad. But all the average Iraqi wants is safer streets, fewer kidnappings and a little peace and quiet. Realizing that that kind of paradise is not likely to be found in the Middle East, Baghdad has been suffering a major brain drain in the past year, with the most educated fleeing for foreign countries. Europe and North America are preferred destinations, but any place with a lower crime rate will do.
Many exiles carry a sense of shame with them. What they flee is not the violence of “foreign occupiers,” but of lawless Iraqis and foreign terrorists. Iraqis are running away from Arab criminals and fanatics. And none of those fanatics offer anything better, even if they win. The secular ones promise another Saddam, while the religious one offer a dictatorship run by clerics. It’s still popular to blame the Americans for everything, while still hustling to get a job with the Americans or, best of all, a visa to enter the United States. Those who cannot, or do not, want to leave, are trying to figure out how to make the place work. This is generating a lot of debate in the Iraqi press, which has not been free to publish freely for over four decades. The one thing most factions agree on is the need for peace, and that attitude should make the Battle for Baghdad, which has already begun, very interesting.
February 26th, 2007 at 6:27 pmPatrick1
Your copying of other peoples words is a nice touch and it helps reinforce my belief that leaving Iraq now is the best option.
Let them fight for what’s left, cause it ain’t worth sh*t.
February 26th, 2007 at 6:31 pmAh Yes, Joe LIE-berman, the BLACKEST TRAITOR in American History…his name will be synonymous with SELL-OUT and TOADYING to the rotten repugnant-repubs. For CHRISSAKE, LIE-berman, WHY THE HELL DON’T YOU TURN YOUR COAT INTO A repugnant repub. because YOU SURE ARE HELL ACTING LIKE ONE. Methinks I will START a Re-call Movement in Connecticut to GET RID OF THAT CREEP LIE-berman and flush him down the crapper! I’m sure his constituents, who were lied to by LIE-berman FEEL THE SAME WAY AND WANT THIS MISERABLE WEEPY TOADYING CREEP OUT ON HIS DUFF FOR THE LYING AND UNDERHANDED POLITICS HE HAS BEEN PLAYING THE PEOPLE WITH AND FOREVER BRANDED WITH THE SCARLET “L” FOR HIS SINS!!!!!
February 26th, 2007 at 6:58 pmWow, Roger Roger is for invading Iran. Proof that Roger Roger is more bat-shit crazy than even I imagined.
February 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pmUDPATE: UPDATE: UPDATE. “Update” is the word that needs to be used — not “Revoke.” Not “Modify” Not “Change” Not “Restrict.” Update the authorization to meet current realtime needs. It’s OLD. It’s IRRELEVANT now. It needs to be updated. Saddam is gone. WMDs never existed. Election held. UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE.
Why do the democrats seem incapable of coming up with powerful language like the repubs, i.e., “slow bleed,” “cut and run,” et cetera? Democrats need our help and need to be willing to listen to us.
The public knows computers need “updates.” We’re familiar with that word. Why not “UPDATE” the 2002 war authorization to reflect the needs four years later? It sounds so much better and can be understood and agreed with rather than “REVOKE,” or “Modify” or “Change” or “Restrict.”
Why don’t we have a “clearing house” for short phrases that democrats can use for their language? Just a line or two that can help the Powers That Be understand what the “regular” people understand. I hate to say this, but they’re obviously out of touch sometimes and need the everyday person to help them with communicating.
I’m so sick and tired of watching some democrats on TV or reading their quotes in the paper that could be so much better. Where the heck are our “talking points,” and who’s writing them? They stink.
Don’t accuse me of trashing our own, because I’m trying to help, but I’m not powerful enough and don’t have the contacts to get through to some legislators. I’m hoping someone who reads this can get through. I’m not wrong. I’m trying to help achieve our goals.
February 26th, 2007 at 8:17 pmUDPATE: UPDATE: UPDATE. “Update” is the word that needs to be used — not “Revoke.” Not “Modify” Not “Change” Not “Restrict.” Update the authorization to meet current realtime needs. It’s OLD. It’s IRRELEVANT now. It needs to be updated. Saddam is gone. WMDs never existed. Election held. UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE.
Why do the democrats seem incapable of coming up with powerful language like the repubs, i.e., “slow bleed,” “cut and run,” et cetera? They need our help and need to be willing to listen to us.
The public knows computers need “updates.” We’re familiar with that word. Why not “UPDATE” the 2002 war authorization to reflect the needs four years later? It sounds so much better and can be understood and agreed with rather than “REVOKE,” or “Modify” or “Change” or “Restrict.”
Why don’t we have a “clearing house” for short phrases that democrats can use for their language? Just a line or two that can help the powers that be understand what the “regular” people understand. I hate to say this, but they’re obviously out of touch sometimes and need the everyday person to help them with communicating.
I’m so sick and tired of watching some democrats on TV or reading their quotes in the paper that could be so much better. Where the heck are our “talking points,” and who’s writing them? They stink.
Don’t accuse me of trashing our own, because I’m trying to help, but I’m not powerful enough and don’t have the contacts to get through to some legislators. I’m hoping someone who reads this can get through. I’m not wrong. I’m trying to help achieve our goals.
February 26th, 2007 at 8:18 pmIs there any talk in Connecticut about holding a recall election for this worthless son of a bitch?
February 26th, 2007 at 8:42 pmI think my Uncle Guido from Bayonne needs to pay a visit to Traitor Joe and check the resillency of the ligaments in Traitor Joe’s knees. For starters.
February 26th, 2007 at 8:47 pmIs there any talk in Connecticut about holding a recall election for this worthless son of a bitch?
Comment by Ben Dover
I believe Satan is going to recall Joe Lieberman…
…he’s (Lieberman has) done his job…
February 26th, 2007 at 9:11 pmThis stalemate is exactly why I am on about impeachment now. We need a new course now, their is justification a plenty. And Below for your review my recent comments on the solution. It’s and end run around a strangle hold.
Post as follows:
My concern is that we have a reckless and incompetent executive. They fail to listen to good advice, they fail to uphold the constitution on several levels as they so pledged, they fail to uphold the separation of church and state. Rather they divide always, country’s, peoples, and families. The mantra seemed to be privatize war make a bundle and that’s the only thing they seem to have succeeded at. As a week president Mr. Bush felt he had to go the UN, hence mistake #1, Then he tied our own hands going in saying no draft, hence mistake #2, He showed his real colors on mistake #3 however, it was deceit, biased intel, and amoral characteristics they came with the WMD story of the State of The Union Address.
We have work to do to regain our country’s image and well-being. This concerned citizen for one would sleep better if this executive was not the one in control of the nuclear arsenal.
We need to restructure corporations, win or solve the problems along the Afghan and Pakistani border (the war on terror)and save the planet.
If MR. Bush had been honest and said Sadam has been playing with us for over a decade and I’m going to make things right I would have stayed the course with him but he deserves not. Remember the years that Henry Kissinger bargained for peace with Vietnam got only a doubling of casualties, and no change in the terms. Mr. Gates makes me feel a bit better about our leadership but unless we see sharp reversal of course and policy it is senseless. We must stand back and change the course.
Only now are they starting to deal correctly with the oil sharing issue. A root cause of the infighting.
The incompetence must be corrected. This is why I’ve recently suggested impeachment of the executive for both domestic and foreign reasons. It is the most direct and correct course of action. As the old adage goes if you can’t help get out of the way. My feeling is all this administration can do is steal the middle class and slave it’s people.
Below please find a recent post for impeachment that I put up on the Democraticwarrior.com site.
From The Desk of Tom J. Flaherty
February 6, 2007
RE: State of Governmental disarray and the Solution/Reasoned Analysis due to critical direction of U.SA., Iraq Leadership or lack their of .
The winds of chaos abound in a nuclear Middle East and beyond. The Leadership of Iran is unresponsive to reason as we understand it and although they are not a communist style government the theocratic bent of Iran implies that they will not likely be able to correct their course through a open access to the truth and free availability of it.
It is more likely that the United States can make sound decisions and corrections to it’s current policy. Regardless of weather the nuclear issue is right or wrong, the U.S.A. should act immediately and decisively to correct the course and show some integrity for past errors and indiscretions of leadership at the executive level.
The people of the U.S.A. have corrected the course in the last election and still the strangle hold of past acts stands to the need of an override, filibuster, or weak-minded attempt to uphold the status quo. Democrats were given a mandate to fix the lies of its leaders. Somehow they are proving what the nay Sayers said that the Dem’s have no plan.
Time does not allow long inquires into past corruption. The solution is immediate Impeachment of both the President and Vice President of these United Sates. The conviction resulting from the impeachment will show that the world still has a moral leader that can govern itself.
The worries of President Dwight D. Eisenhower came true. The amoral corpocricy governing against a united whole and for the top dogs dollar without regard for anything else have shown us a lot. Principally it has nurtured creativity of ideas. The solutions to the whole economic situation abound. The critical war and nuclear solutions rest in a course change. The blood and treasure lost thus far were not spent to be followed by more waste and not so we could legitimize the use of nuclear weapons via a second and conscious us of such.
Impeachment will give strength to a new course. The new course needs to commence now. Time to stop the nuclear weapons program in Iran is short. Even the leadership in Iran has said they would talk. A first goal should be a moratorium of the Iranian program and international monitoring by the IAEA.
To the Congress of the United States I suggest to yee, stand up and get it done
Respectfully,
Tom J. Flaherty
February 26th, 2007 at 9:24 pmLieberman. A spokesperson for the warmongering side of the Israelis. Keep a constant flood of disinformation coming to the 25% percent of the idiots that watch Fox. Keep America spending its blood and money to create chaos in the middle east, thereby fending off any coordinated attacks on Israel. Use the American middle class to fund this operation and the lower class to die for it. Perfect plan. And it works. Many Jewish folk here in this country don’t know what the hell to do about Israel. If you talk to some of them, they secretly say that all the Muslims should be killed. (Mmm, lessons learned from WW2 are…) Its 200 B.C. all over again, nothing has changed. How the fuck did we get stuck in the middle of this shit ? As long as there is no draft and the U.S. keeps sucking out $100s of billions (oh yea, we are borrowing it) on this losing strategy, they don’t really give a shit about real solutions, just write a check and get a deduction every year and brag to their friends that they did something. Throw money at lobbyists and people like Lieberman and Shays (and he isn’t even of the faith). I don’t get why some of these people instead don’t embrace with full force the notion that if we adopt a policy of destroying the value of oil, Israel will have a better future. With oil at 60, there is little future now. It doesn’t really matter how many fucking billions they suck out of this country (allowed by a whore Congress), it just ain’t going to extend the life of that country, or the planet for that matter. They are just ultimately throwing more fuel on the fire. Israelis on the ground over there, aside from the religious freaks, just want peace. They want to live in peace, period. Yet the Jews over here like Kristol love the Chimpy regime (its just too god damn dumb to be true !!!). And speaking of religious freaks, the even more treasoness Americans are those in the Christian religious right who are truly evil warmongers, talking about the second coming in Israel and all that crap. Does anyone ever hear anything Jesus-like in there sermons ? If he were alive, he’d have to cry after hearing their crap. They have created another level of selfish insanity, wrapped in the continuation of a 2000 year old religious war. I am with the average Israelis over there, I just want a strategy for sustained peace. Use the brains people - cut off the oil revenues or you’ll kill us all. Comprende ?
February 26th, 2007 at 11:04 pmI think this Seantor is showing remarkable courage in the face of a party which does not understand what’s in its own interest. Democrats who want to cut and run are kin to those who began the deterioration of American Foreign policy back in the Viet Nam days.
February 26th, 2007 at 11:24 pmLet’s all remember that if the Arabs put down thier weapons there would be peace, but if Israel put down its weapons they would be slaughtered.
Lieberman stands for something and personally I hope we’re able to learn the lesson he teaches us all: a lesson in principle and courage.
Traitor Joe LIE-berman is turning into a Darth Vader. Soon he will wear a mask to cover-up his contorted evil face. Joe has embraced the Dark Side.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:21 amDoes Joe’s input into the Homeland Security Dept. as Senate Chair in Washington DC actually mean he himself would have direct knowledge of pre approved planning for when those protesting this administration en masse,(millions), get sent to concentration camps or CIA run foreign camps because they were deemed “enemy combatants of the state” or simply just “disappear”?
He would have at least some knowledge of this no? I just like to know who my “killers” are going to be before I die is the reason I ask.
I would hate to have to go down to the likes of “Lot Lizard Lieberman”, that traitorous roving cucumber.
What a slap in the face if it is so.
February 27th, 2007 at 5:07 amDoes Joe’s input into the Homeland Security Dept. as Senate Chair in Washington DC actually mean he himself would have direct knowledge of pre approved planning for when those protesting this administration en masse,(millions), get sent to concentration camps or CIA run foreign camps because they were deemed “enemy combatants of the state” or simply just “disappear”?
He would have at least some knowledge of this no? I just like to know who my “killers” are going to be before I die is the reason I ask.
I would hate to have to go down to the likes of “Lot Lizard Lieberman”, that traitorous roving cucumber.
What a slap in the face if it is so.
February 27th, 2007 at 5:08 amHow in the hell did this guy win in a blue state?? We dems should NEVER sit on ours asses and allow such “Two legged s***” to represent use.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:52 amthe bush administration along with cheney gutted the military and created a dangerous amount of tensions in the middleeast and elsewhere so it can justify using nuclear weapons as a means of defense.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:45 amOur involvement in Iraq = wrong from day one.
proof: Iraq today.
Only reason it happened = petroleum concessions.
proof: Iraq passed law allowing it this week.
Cynically allowing all that death for those oil concessions = something anyone with a conscience should be ashamed of for a very long time.
proof: ask a German.
Arguing the finer points = pointless.
February 27th, 2007 at 4:11 pmproof: Al Gore.
Al Qaeda declared war on the United States in 1995, the response? A cigar for Monica Lewinsky. The 9/11 attacks were planned in 1998, the response? Sandy Burglar steals documents out of the National Archives. America was run out of Somalia in 1993, leading Osama Bin Laden to believe that America did not have the will to fight. He was right about the American left but wrong about George Bush.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 26, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Typical idiot, you ignored my post yesterday. Why? Because you know the truth. You can’t answer it. Want to try again? I’ve reposted it:
Tell us again, Patrick1, what Bush did to punish al Qaeda for the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole when it was announced that terrorist group was responsible for that attack on the U.S. after he was sworn in yet before 9/11?
Tell us again, Patrick1, when Bush held his first cabinet-level meeting on terrorism after being sworn in?
Now…
A cigar for Monica Lewinsky.
Oh, drop the Monica sh*t. Read the Starr report. Prior to their first sexual encounter, Monica made the “first move” by raising her dress to show Clinton the straps on her thong. She instigated the sexual encounter. Not Clinton. “Poor little Monica” knew exactly what she was doing.
Sandy Burglar steals documents out of the National Archives.
Employees of the National Archives stood by and watched as Sandy put the documents in his clothes and let him walk out. They did nothing to stop him.
He was right about the American left but wrong about George Bush.
He was right about Bush, too. He knew that Bush would take this country into a never ending war and lead this country into bankruptcy. That was Osama’s goal. Bush is playing by Osama’s rules.
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