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ABC, Fox pick up Drudge’s attack on Gore.

The stories are HERE and HERE. Thankfully, both at least include Gore’s response, which ThinkProgress first published HERE.



74 Responses to “ABC, Fox pick up Drudge’s attack on Gore.”

  1. Gordy says:

    Is it ok for a company to destroy certain parts of the environment if they pay for offsetting credits like Gore does?


  2. Patrick1 says:

    A preacher who just won an Oscar turns out to be a hypocrite, that is a good story.


  3. Mimir says:

    “To their credit”??

    It’s a striking commentary on the state of those “news” organizations that they should be thanked for occasionally NOT broadcasting rightwing propaganda.


  4. Spudge_Boy says:

    You are wrong about this subject too Patrick1. You guys haven’t been right about anything so far. At least you are consistent.


  5. Patrick1 says:

    Gore and his enviromentally butchering mansion is a good story, why hide it?


  6. Kurds are a Gas says:

    The Goracle
    He is going to save the planet


  7. paland says:

    Patrick obviously lives in Europe or somewhere where they hate Americans. Sorry Patrick, be we in American hate your system and are better than your country. So eat it.


  8. Holmey says:

    This is what Drew Johnson & “Al Gore” said on the Ed Schultz Show today.

    http://audio.wegoted.com/podcasting/


  9. Patrick1 says:

    I wasn’t talking about Americans, I was talking about Algore.


  10. Spudge_Boy says:

    Well, at least TP didn’t post more of that god aweful Drudge web site for this thread.


  11. hacker bob says:

    I posted this on the Global warming thread. But I think it belongs here as well.

    THIS JUST IN FROM THE GLOBAL WARMING DEPT…
    BUSH IS A HYPOCRITE
    Sierra Club.org 2002
    It’s more than a little ironic that, in his private life, President Bush is actually a leader in consumer conservation. His Crawford, Texas, ranch has been described as an environmentally sensitive showplace designed with “state-of-the-art energy efficiency.” The house is filled with energy-saving devices, while the lawn and orchard are irrigated with recycled water.

    Treehugger.com 2007
    Only your dispassionate Canadian correspondent could write this without colour or favour, but is it possible that George Bush is a secret Green? Evidently his Crawford Winter White House has 25,000 gallons of rainwater storage, gray water collection from sinks and showers for irrigation, passive solar, geothermal heating and cooling. “By marketplace standards, the house is startlingly small,” says David Heymann, the architect of the 4,000-square-foot home. “Clients of similar ilk are building 16-to-20,000-square-foot houses.” Furthermore for thermal mass the walls are clad in “discards of a local stone called Leuders limestone, which is quarried in the area. The 12-to-18-inch-thick stone has a mix of colors on the top and bottom, with a cream- colored center that most people want. “They cut the top and bottom of it off because nobody really wants it,” Heymann says. “So we bought all this throwaway stone. It’s fabulous. It’s got great color and it is relatively inexpensive.”

    Ofee.gov
    America’s most famous residence now gets some of its energy directly from the sun. In late 2002, the White House installed its first-ever solar electric system, including putting 167 solar electric – a.k.a. “photovoltaic” – panels on the roof of the complex’s primary maintenance building, and two solar thermal systems to heat the pool and spa and provide domestic hot water. The photovoltaic system feeds electricity into the White House grounds’ distribution system, supplementing the complex’s power supply. The American-made solar panels were manufactured by Evergreen Solar, Inc. of Marlborough, MA.

    Also ofee.gov
    John Howard, the Federal Environmental Executive, noted: “Installing solar panels at the White House is yet another example of President Bush’s personal stewardship commitment. When he was governor, he made sure that the Governor’s Mansion in Austin was one of the first to sign up to receive renewable energy. At his ranch in Crawford, the Bush family has installed a 25,000-gallon rainwater cistern for irrigation and planted native plants — and he’s busy removing invasive trees. Their geothermal heating and cooling system sends water into the ground 300 feet to keep it at a constant 67 degrees, using 75 percent less electricity than traditional heating and air-conditioning systems – and so efficiently heating the outdoor pool that they shelved their plans to install solar panels. And his national energy plan includes more than $9 billion in tax proposals to increase energy efficiency, conservation, renewable energy, and emissions-free energy.”

    It is about time Al Gore got on board.


  12. beefeater says:

    Spin all you want, if it looks like a hippo-crite, walks like a hippo-crite and sounds like a hippo-crite it must be Algore! Carbon credits my butt, what a made up bunch of crap! Typical hollywood elite, do as I say not as I do.


  13. Dale says:

    I beat up a minority this morning, but it’s okay, because I just bought some racism offsets.

    What is it with this offset stuff? It’s okay for Gore to use a lot of energy because
    a) he’s trying to get the message out, and
    b) he’s buying carbon offsets???

    What about those people who can’t AFFORD to buy ‘carbon offsets’???


  14. promotingblogs.com says:

    ABC, Fox pick up Drudge’s attack on Gore…

    Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market …


  15. AshenShard says:

    Dale,

    that is the whole beauty of it, Al Gore is attempting to offset his own carbon footprint as much as he possibly can, but do to his commitments he has to do more traveling than the average person. The point of buying offsets is that wealthy people can do it, and it is an investment in helping the environment and developing new technology that everyone can use to reduce their carbon emissions. His purchase of offsets isn’t a way to say that he can pollute more, and isn’t just something rich people can do to benefit themselves, it benefits all.


  16. Liberals Heart Terrorists says:

    Al Gore’s hypocrisy is a moral issue. The brownshirts on the left who want to stifle debate must understand that.


  17. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    Dear Republicons:

    If I were use, I would hesitate to use, or frankly just not use the word hypocrite quite so much.

    Best,
    Me


  18. AshenShard says:

    #15 LHT

    I believe you are confused. We are red shirts, remember? pinko commies? People like you are the brown shirts.


  19. muckdog says:

    No surprise. Al and the Dems are using global warming as a political tool, and really have no interest in it beyond that.


  20. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    Or better yet:

    Dear Republicons:

    If I were you, I would not use the words hypocrite, hypocrisy, etc. quite so much.

    Best,
    Me


  21. AshenShard says:

    #18 muckdog

    Lets just say you are right, and they are using it as a political tool. Who does it hurt? No one.

    Now Bush and the Republicans who have lied consistently about the Iraq war and the ‘War on Terror’, and have used it for political gain, they get a pass from you. But, over 3,000 of our troops have died, over 800 contractors have died, at the very least 50,000 Iraqi civilians have died, and who knows how many have been displaced.


  22. Dale says:

    Dale,

    that is the whole beauty of it, Al Gore is attempting to offset his own carbon footprint as much as he possibly can, but do to his commitments he has to do more traveling than the average person. The point of buying offsets is that wealthy people can do it, and it is an investment in helping the environment and developing new technology that everyone can use to reduce their carbon emissions. His purchase of offsets isn’t a way to say that he can pollute more, and isn’t just something rich people can do to benefit themselves, it benefits all.

    I get it. I REALLY GET IT NOW! So a plantation owner should go around to otherplantations and tell them how wrong it is to own slaves. Of course, since he’s so busy trying to stamp out slavery, well then he’s going to need just a few slaves to run his plantation while he’s gone.

    No matter what his ‘traveling committments’, he certainly doesn’t need to own as many homes as he does, nor as big as they are, if he’s really interested in global warming.

    Hey, what about scaling down his lifestyle, and STILL buying carbon offsets. Wouldn’t that make him an even BETTER advocate for global warming?


  23. Dale says:

    #19, why do you think you’re safe from us? Don’t you know the NSA is tracking you right this moment?

    (I just love tweaking those who make sweeping pronoucements)


  24. Drane says:

    Yes, it may be a valid story, but it is also a right wing hit job. I notice that the “Tennessee Center for Policy Research” apparently doesn’t consider global warming to be an important enough topic to have a policy on it, but they have time and resources to attack Gore. I continue to be disgusted with the character assassination which the Corporate Right practices as a means of diverting attention more important issues, like their own plundering and trashing of the planet. Good government policy could fairly mandate changes in llifestyle for everyone and reduce greenhouse effects far more than individual conservation. The hypocrisy is shared by all, left and right, but the right claims to be, and apparently is, ignorant or more likely in denial.


  25. hacker bob says:

    Comment by AshenShard — February 27, 2007 @ 3:39 pm

    Remember the Internet? It allows us to communicate with people all the way on the other side of the planet.

    There is this thing called TELECONFERENCING that is very effective as well. You take 2 (or more) computers connected through the “internets” combined with a “video/webcam” and it allows you to actually SEE the person on the other side of the world as you are talking to them.

    There are more efficient and effective ways to do business. But just because someone is getting the message out, they do not have to live by the message.

    By the way, carbon offsets do not prevent or remove pollution from the environment.


  26. TheToonGuy says:

    So, by calling Al Gore a hypocrite, you are admitting that Global Warming is a problem and we must do something about it? If not, why do you are?


  27. Dale says:

    Lets just say you are right, and they are using it as a political tool. Who does it hurt? No one.

    Well, if it costs more money for certain things because of an increased emphasis on ‘green’ initiatives… you know, like MAKING ENERGY, then there’ll be less money for social programs like health care and food stamps. More people going hungry and no health care for them.

    But I’m impressed… a whole 20 posts went by before the war was mentioned. We can’t have a discussion without that subject now can we.


  28. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    Comment by Dale — February 27, 2007 @ 3:52 pm

    Why did you think I was referring to you?


  29. Dale says:

    Yes, it may be a valid story, but it is also a right wing hit job.

    Fake but accurate Drane?


  30. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    #19, why do you think you’re safe from us? Don’t you know the NSA is tracking you right this moment?
    (I just love tweaking those who make sweeping pronoucements)
    Comment by Dale — February 27, 2007 @ 3:52 pm

    You’re amused at the prospect of domestic spying, and the loss of american liberty? If that were Hillary spying on you, how would you feel, stupid c*nt?


  31. Dale says:

    #27, I knew you were talking to #18, I just wanted to comment on your inane comment.


  32. Dale says:

    #29, that she knew she had to get her kicks from someone other than Bill?


  33. Dale says:

    You can always tell when someone runs out of arguments, those start throwing around insults.


  34. AshenShard says:

    #21 Dale

    The slave owner example doesn’t work, its like comparing apples to oranges. If you are just using that example because Gore grew up in a well to do southern family, well then, you are not only smearing him but every southern republican politician, who hold a majority in that region.

    The point Gore is making is that you do not have to make extreme sacrifice to help the environment, just take steps that reduce you emissions easily and cheaply. He is showing that not only can you reduce emissions, but you can still aspire to wealth and consumerism. And if you are going to make a comparison, compare his wealth and carbon emissions with other politicians. And if you are going to criticize his wealth, look at the wealth of other politicians. At least he is trying to make a difference with his. He could be just sitting at home, doing nothing productive in society. Instead, he is giving his time over to this endeavor.


  35. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    Ah, the moronic trolls have returned. They claim Gore’s lifestyle is ripe for debate while claiming Bush has a laudable environmental record.

    1. Bring on the debate.
    2. Bush’s true record is pathetic.

    To claim that conservatives somehow are more environmentally aware and active than liberals is laughable. Bring on the debate — you will lose this one too.


  36. beefeater says:

    Yes, it may be a valid story, but it is also a right wing hit job. I notice that the “Tennessee Center for Policy Research” apparently doesn’t consider global warming to be an important enough topic to have a policy on it

    So the story is true but because it’s inconvienient it must be a RW hit job. I hope you can untangle yourself from that leap of logic.
    The timing of this couldn’t have been better, or more well planned. If Algore didn’t think He was going to get some push back He’s a bigger fool than I thought.


  37. Dale says:

    #33, no, it had nothing to do with souther families/politicians/etc.

    I wasn’t criticizing his wealth, I have no idea how he got it, and unless he was ‘on the take’ (doubtful, at least to a large degree), then his wealth is immaterial.

    The problem people have with Al Gore is that he’s preaching about making changes in your lifestyle, but while he’s making “some” changes, he’s relying on buying global offsets to dramatically reduce his carbon footprint. If he was really that concerned, then quit flying in private planes, quit driving SUV’s, and don’t spend so lavishly on energy.

    Does anybody know what Al Gores carbon footprint IS????


  38. Dale says:

    #34, I, for one, have never made any claims re: Bush’s environmental record. This whole thing about Al Gore and carbon offsets doesn’t have anything to do with comparing his record to conservatives… it’s the apparent hypocrisy that he’s not practicing what he’s preaching.


  39. Kurds are a Gas says:

    35
    So the story is true but because it’s inconvienient…

    Heh that is a good one beefeater.


  40. hacker bob says:

    Comment by AshenShard — February 27, 2007 @ 4:01 pm

    Would you agree we are discussing individual action and not policy? If so, Gore is a little behind the curve on individual action and Bush is way behind on policy.


  41. Dale says:

    #39, yes, I’d agree we’re discussing individual action.

    Bush is behind on policy only if you believe in global warming. (Privately, at least according to #11, he seems to be ahead of the curve).

    Gore, not being in office, I guess you could say has no position on ‘policy’… though if I remember correctly from the 90’s, then he’d probably be considered ahead on policy. On individual action? I’d say behind, simply because of the hypocrisy… purchasing global offsets is no excuse for his excesses, assuming global warming is true.


  42. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid says:

    Everyone on the earth has an environmental footprint. Al Gore is actively working to make his zero. Hard to do much better than zero. Plus, he’s actively working to push forward policies that would improve the environment for all people. Seems like he’s way in the black now. Any questions?


  43. Zooey says:

    #11 — hacker bob

    I’m so pleased GWB is apparently living a green lifestyle at his Crawford Ranch.

    That’s ONE thing he’s apparently done right. ONE.


  44. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    #27, I knew you were talking to #18, I just wanted to comment on your inane comment.

    1. I was speaking to Republicons in generally (a group which you do apparently belong to since you answered my post so eloquently…you know the saying, you throw a stone into a pack of dogs…) not #18 or anyone specifically.

    2. You weren’t responding to my comment, you were making your own inane comment about my handle.

    3. Global warming is real. We need to start taking steps to combat it.


  45. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    Post #43 was meant to be a response to post #20.


  46. AshenShard says:

    I don’t know about the rest here, but I’ve come to distrust much of what is said on the right. However, if it is true Gore should own up to it. If it is not, then I think Gore needs to do a little work and show what he has done in his life to help out, that would undercut any false reports on his own environmental impact. But would it be enough for the naysayers?


  47. hacker bob says:

    Comment by Zooey — February 27, 2007 @ 4:14 pm

    Did it hurt you having to admit that?

    Sorry, babe, had to do it.


  48. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    But would it be enough for the naysayers?

    Comment by AshenShard — February 27, 2007 @ 4:19 pm

    I suspect, for some naysayers at least, Gore’s energy use isn’t really the issue, ultimately they are just trying to undermine the scientific consensus on global warming.


  49. Kurds are a Gas says:

    Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.


  50. Zooey says:

    Did it hurt you having to admit that?
    Sorry, babe, had to do it.
    Comment by hacker bob

    Hey, I can admit GWB did one thing right — even if it was probably purely unintentional on his part. :P


  51. Patrick1 says:

    I agree, liberal hypocracy is not news.


  52. Kurds are a Gas says:

    Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

    Did he win the Golden Hypocrite award?


  53. SafeFromtheRightWing says:

    Did he win the Golden Hypocrite award?
    Comment by Kurds are a Gas — February 27, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

    No, that went to Bush Jr.


  54. muckdog says:

    Al Gore isn’t serious about global warming. He’s responsible for this country’s energy path. Hundreds of coal plants instead of nuclear power plants exist because of Al Gore. Those coal plants product CO2 emissions that cause global warming; they are also responsible for 200,000 lung cancer deaths annually.

    Thanks Al. Enjoy that Oscar and being a “rock star.” Bastard.


  55. tom baker says:

    Rubbernecking the death of that Smith woman had to give way to something new this week, so the mouthbreather demographic has hopped on the Gore-bashing bandwagon. Since Ellen hosted the Oscars, it’s a handy segue into gay-bashing too, which is always good news for that crowd. Whatever keeps’em watching SpecialK commercials and not thinking about piles of dead Iraqis, I spose…..

    Don’t anyone doubt for even a second that the hippy gear at Crawford was all Laura’s doing, and that would constitute the ONE good thing she’s done. Dubbie’s still battin’ .000, on purpose. Furthermore, no amount of hippy gear on earth changes what Dubbie’s real, material contribution to the world has been. Voodoo rhetoric can’t change that.

    “Hey, never mind Dubbie’s pile of dead people and pissed away $ – that damned Al Gore is threatening our very way of lightbulb!!”

    awesome job on the hissy fit over Al though – really courageous stuff.


  56. Dale says:

    #51… wow, without putting in ANYTHING for airline trips or vehicles, his carbon impact is ~92… for ONE HOME, and that’s INCLUDING Tipper in the calculation.

    One question about the site where you can calculate your carbon footprint… why doesn’t it have any questions about how many trips you make/year in private jets?


  57. null says:

    politico.com picked up on it too, and, embarrassingly, ONLY linked to the Drudge Report story…pitiful!!!


  58. Dale says:

    #54, ah, another war reference… I’ve been missing them.


  59. annefrank says:

    Apparently Fox removed their article.


  60. Kurds are a Gas says:

    “Hey, never mind Dubbie’s pile of dead people and pissed away $ – that damned Al Gore is threatening our very way of lightbulb!!”

    awesome job on the hissy fit over Al though – really courageous stuff.

    Comment by tom baker
    How about Clinton “I feel your pain” to 800000 dead Rwandan?


  61. Kurds are a Gas says:

    #54
    “Hey, never mind Dubbie’s pile of dead people and pissed away $ – that damned Al Gore is threatening our very way of lightbulb!!”

    awesome job on the hissy fit over Al though – really courageous stuff.

    Comment by tom baker
    How about Clinton “I feel your pain” to 800000 dead Rwandan?


  62. AshenShard says:

    #60 Kurds are a Gas

    Did Clinton start that war? No. But if you think he deserves blame for that, then you must agree that Bush deserves blame for Darfur.


  63. kRank says:

    Man, there are some really energetic trolls out today. Must have been a snow day off of school for a bunch of cold-weather kiddies or something.

    Too bad their “logic” doesn’t match their energy level. They’re hyperactive, sure, but man, do they bring some pathetic arguments to the table.


  64. Kurds are a Gas says:

    No it was his most excellent foreign policy.


  65. tom baker says:

    62 – (This is really fun – say “Al Gore” and they positively turn circles….it’s like putting food in a fishtank)

    al gore!
    al gore!

    (now watch….see what happens)

    #60 – Yes – I remember the hissy fit you threw on behalf of those Rwandans that Bill Clinton killed.


  66. rachel rj kinnardi says:

    No it was his most excellent foreign policy.

    Comment by Kurds are a Gas
    ———————————————

    Nerds are a Gas,

    And let me guess, you are his most excellent troll?

    God Damn man, they sure are scraping the bottom of the barrel these days no?

    Is that name supposed to be “funny”

    You like gas?

    PfFfFfFfFtt……..Honkkkk….PfFfFfFffTttTt

    I just farted Nerds are a Gas.

    There’s a kiss in there somewhere for you.

    Breathe deeply and enjoy you fu*cking GOP Wor


  67. Kurds are a Gas says:

    The number of errors in Al Gore’s movie are stunning.
    Sheeple follow the Goracle.


  68. Kurds are a Gas says:

    62 – (This is really fun – say “Al Gore Hypocrite” and they positively turn circles….it’s like putting food in a fishtank)

    al gore hypocrite!
    al gore hypocrite!

    (now watch….see what happens)

    I remember the hissy fit tom baker threw on behalf of those Rwandans that Bill Clinton killed.

    Comment by tom baker


  69. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus says:

    The number of errors in Al Gore’s movie are stunning.
    Sheeple follow the Goracle. Comment by Kurds are a Gas — February 27, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    Says the *sheeple* following Michael Savage. If that movie was so full of errors, wonder why he’s up for a Nobel? We all know those guys have ‘no standards’. Oh wait, it’s *you* guys that have no standards – stupid c*nt!



  70. Raymond Funamoto says:

    OUR VINES HAVE “SOUR GRAPES”, EH, ABC, Fox and Drudge? WHY DON’T YOU LOSERS GO JUMP IN A LAKE AND DROWN! No, I take that back–JUMP IN A VOLCANO AND BURN TO A CRISP, YOU JEALOUS LITTLE BACK-BITING SCUM–YOU DON’T MEASURE UP TO THE STANDARD OF PUBLIC DECENCY OR COMMON SENSE, SO YOU CREEPS SHOULDN’T WASTE ANY MORE OF THE EARTH’S DECLINING RESOURCES–DO HUMANITY A FAVOUR AND STOP BREATHING, ABC, Fox and Drudge!!!!!


  71. Ricky Shambles says:

    #58/annefrank –
    There never was any story, just a title. Drudge linked “Gore Responds…” to a FOX page with no content. Is this a gimmick they set up together for a good har-har?

    I posted a screeenshot of the travesty here.


  72. Charlie Henrickson says:

    Why do you people bother responding to these parrots? They contradict themselves. If global warming is a myth, and if being an environmentalist is bad politics, as they evidently believe, why are they criticizing Gore for using too much energy. They don’t care.

    You say they’re pointing out hypocrisy? It doesn’t matter how much he spends if it’s green energy. And what is it they don’t get about carbon offsets? What would they say if he didn’t buy them?

    These people are straining to make a point, and failing.


  73. Charlie Henrickson says:

    BTW—-What kind of person chooses “Kurds Are A Gas” for a name?

    Wow.



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