You checked it personally?

What does hurt is having planes fly into the tallest building in L.A.

Newyorkers will be angry with you, you don’t give a damn where those TWO planers crashed.

because a terrorist was not waterboarded.

Comment by stanman — February 28, 2007 @ 1:12 pm

Which terrorist? And what gives you the assurance that he’s not another suicide maniacal who has let the police get him to lie about their plans and carry another terrorist act in the other side of the city or the country?

Any questions?

http://blogs.lib.ncsu.edu/page/shgreene/20060908

Clearly the site you posted has an agenda. Abu Zubaydah getting waterboarded and spouting bin Al Shibh’s name did not tell us anything we did not already know. , but he did speak, which shows that waterboarding works. Whether we had the intel already not is not relevent, it is relevent that it works. Thank you for proving my point.

The link I showed is just where the video of Ross speaking is. The report or interview was not done by hotair, it is just there much like videos are linked on this site.

“To a large degree they`re private, but I believe – I believe inherently that – that we have a responsibility to take care of each other, so when you can talk about socialized healthcare, absolutely, that`s a no-brainer. Free universities, absolutely, that`s a no-brainer for me. So in the definition, I guess those are leaning towards socialist politics. To me it`s common sense. And I do believe the wealthy have a responsibility to the less fortunate. Some people call that communism. I disagree. Again, it`s common sense. But I would have to say that my politics would be leaning towards the left.”

More:

KIEFER SUTHERLAND: No, what happened in Abu Ghraib was just absolutely criminal. And not only was it criminal but it was as a nation it`s going to go in and trying to tell people how to live, which is exactly what we`re doing, and we`re going to tell you that democracy and freedom and this is the way to go, and then go and behave like that. Inexcusable.

CHARLIE ROSE: But you get some grief for what the show does?

KIEFER SUTHERLAND: Absolutely. And it is widely known that torture – - you can torture someone and they`ll basically tell you exactly what you want to hear, whether it`s true or not, if you put someone in enough pain. Torture is not a way of procuring information. The way of procuring information is actually — is in fact quite the opposite, and, unfortunately, that takes a lot of time. Within the context of our show, which is a fantastical show to begin with, the torture is a dramatic device to show you how desperate a situation is.

CHARLIE ROSE: Right, right.

KIEFER SUTHERLAND: And how urgent and – and desperate these characters are to solve this one specific thing, and time is running out. And so it is a dramatic device. It is not to be confused with what we think is right or wrong.

Perhaps the army should ask George Bush, Dick Cheney, Roberto Gonzalez, and John Mccain to speak against torture. They’re responsibility to the army is slightly greater than Kiefer Sutherland’s, I think.

Bush got elected without using facts. (can you say Swiftboat?). The fact that torutre doesn’t work is completly and utterly irrlelvant.

What is not irrelelvant is the power of TV to influence behavior in irrational ways. That should really get your attention.

He was a liberal, and he smacked fascists like you around – nazi fool.

He held the japanese, you morons! Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

Yeah, after they attacked us. Hitler and Japan were the pre-emptive attackers – like Bush and Israel are today.

AND Truman dropped the a-bomb. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

Yes he did. Making the US the only country every to use Nuclear WMDs. Nice club – eh?

AND what does the modern day liberal movement talk about – torture. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

Actually you fcuk heads used torture as an excuse to call Saddam an animal. You’re a fcuking idiot.

You people are pathetic and are reason #1 why we can’t win the WOT. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

You don’t think we can win? Oh ye of little faith. Why are you such a defeatist – you right wing terrorists?

And only a completely dum bass would wage a war on ‘ideology’, you fcuking idiot.

It’s so sad that you fooled the American people in 2006. I doubt they’re dumb enough to fall for it again. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

America was dum enough to be fooled in 2004 (Gore won in 2000 by a half million votes). Just like most of the previous 50 years, america prefers a liberal leadership, despite the fascist media corpse doing your duty.

Liberal train of thought – torturing terrorists bad, killing unborn babies good. You people are hopeless. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

Torturing anyone bad – you fcuking sick lunatic. As for killing ‘unborn babies’, you fcuking fools can’t tell a fetus from a baby, but you sure can starve and murder babies that stand in the way of your WOT. You people are the hopeless fcukheads.

Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 28, 2007 @ 12:02 am

Tell it to your fellow fcukheads that ignore you fcukers were the morons that armed the terrorists. Fcuking fool.

I feel like the plot suffers a lot of the time from over-using the Alan Dershowitz scenario (which is that torture is justified when you know a bomb is about to go off in which thousands or hundreds of thousands will be killed). I liked this week’s episode because they didn’t have to torture anyone. I saw that Jack will be back to torturing next week.

It’s so sad that you fooled the American people in 2006. I doubt they’re dumb enough to fall for it again.

Liberal train of thought – torturing terrorists bad, killing unborn babies good. You people are hopeless.