Glenn Beck Claims Olbermann Is ‘Killing…The World’s Democracy,’ ‘Smacks Of…McCarthyism’
Glenn Beck Claims Olbermann Is ‘Killing…The World’s Democracy,’ ‘Smacks Of…McCarthyism’
MSNBC host Keith Olbermann is profiled in this month’s issue of Rolling Stone. In the piece, Olbermann shares his thoughts on right-wing CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck:
A wolf in sheep’s clothing. The very dangerously bigoted guy who is selling himself as a pragmatic philosopher. I don’t think he sees his own bigotry. There’s something about him that suggests that, one night, he’ll say something that will cost him his career in television.
Glenn Beck responded tonight, calling Olbermann an “intolerant ideologue” whose ideas “smack of the same McCarthyism [Edward R.] Murrow fought so valiantly against.” Beck added, “Hey, Keith, you’re not saving the world’s democracy; you’re killing it, my friend, by trying to limit the marketplace of ideas to only those that reflect your own.”
Watch it:
Beck said tonight that his numerous inflammatory comments aren’t due to his right-wing point of view, but are merely a sign that he is “not perfect” and “struggl[ing] to find the answers to the issues that we face — on my own.” Some lowlights from Beck’s “struggle”:
The anti-gay slur “faggot” is nothing more than “a naughty name.” [1/23/07]
“What happened to the Duke lacrosse team was practically a lynching without the rope. And for the first time in my life, Mr. Oreo Cookie without the chocolate on the outside can understand why people celebrated when O.J. Simpson was acquitted.” [1/15/07, using a racial slur for African-Americans that refers to "being black on the outside and white on the inside"]
“[W]hat I feel like saying is, ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.’” [11/14/06, on what he would like to say to Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first elected Muslim member of Congress]
“I wonder if I’m alone in this — you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims’ families? Took me about a year.” [9/9/05]
“And that’s all we’re hearing about, are the people in New Orleans. Those are the only ones we’re seeing on television are the scumbags.” [9/9/05]
Chris Achorn has more.
BECK: Latest issue of “Rolling Stone” has hit the newsstands, and in it there is a profile — no, no, actually more of a canonization of Keith Olbermann. The thing that struck me when I was reading the article wasn`t the article itself or the self-importance in it, but a small sidebar in which he took a swing at three anchors on this network, Anderson Cooper, Nancy Grace, and yours truly.
Here`s what he had to say about me. “A wolf in sheep`s clothing. The very dangerously bigoted guy who is selling himself as a pragmatic philosopher. I don`t think he sees his own bigotry. There`s something about him that suggests that, one night, he`ll say something that will cost him his career in television.”
You know, let me be clear about something here. Keith Olbermann is right, at least on the last part. After 30 years in broadcasting, three hours of live radio content every day, plus one hour of TV a night, one comment could end my television career. It`s not a question of if, but of when.
Until the inevitable comes, I`ll continue to tell you what I believe. At the same time, I struggle to find the answers to the issues that we face on my own. We`ll talk about it. Yes, I am not perfect. If I were, I wouldn`t really bother to ask any questions.
I mean, I guess I could just stay out of trouble by asking clearly scripted questions to guests who won`t disagree, but that would kind of be planned and kind of a planned perfection that breeds arrogance that is far more dangerous than being a dope like me who says the wrong thing from time to time.
If I`m going to be shut down for that, well, it will likely be because of an intolerant ideologue like Keith Olbermann. The very idea smacks of the same McCarthyism Murrow fought so valiantly against.
Hey, Keith, you`re not saving the world`s democracy; you`re killing it, my friend, by trying to limit the marketplace of ideas to only those that reflect your own.
Me personally, I surround myself with varying points of view. My staff: blood shooting out of your eyes liberals, conservatives, men, women, minorities, and, you know, it`s weird, I don`t need a mailbox outside my office to communicate with them. Oops, did I say that?
When you make pronouncements as bold as, “The man who sees absolutes where all other men see nuances and shades of meaning is either a prophet or a quack,” you better be a prophet, man. You know, and frankly, Keith, nah, you`re not really a prophet. I`m just saying.
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February 27th, 2007 at 11:41 pmheh, Glenn Beck. That guy is bright.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:42 pmPot calling the kettle black. It’s the right wingers who smack of McCarthyism. I think he’s jsut projecting.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:44 pmLook nobody watches this loser. Just forget him.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:48 pmThey don’t call him beckerhead for nothing!
February 27th, 2007 at 11:49 pm#4 I don’t know that. Nobody should watch him because he is a little fraternity boy turned “comedian”. But I would like to see the stats.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:53 pm“he’ll say something that will cost him his career” Glenn has certainly said some things he should have been fired for. But no, instead he has been promoted by our “left leaning” media. The irony is soooo thick it actually hurts. You are right paland, why is it that the GOP project their faults on people who shine a light on them and so many American buy it?
February 27th, 2007 at 11:54 pmOlberman is a McCarthyist!!! AND so is ThinkProgress. You people would shut down the opposition if you could. I think it’s disgusting that you would attack Glenn Beck because he speaks the truth about Fascist Olbermann.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:57 pm#8 If I only had your intellectual capacity I could finally understand the popularity of NASCAR!!!
February 28th, 2007 at 12:01 amMaybe Glenn is pissed at Victor Ashe being the third with Taggart instead of himself. Gay rage is not cute in the world of politics Glenn, dress up like a veitnamese 11 year old and Rush will have you by for cookies.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:04 amDoes anyone remember when Keith Olbermann was cool when he did SportsCenter with Craig Kilborn? Now, everytime I flip on his show, he is having an anuerysm about something the Republicans did. His ranting is so irritating. I can take about 5 minutes of it before my head explodes.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:05 am“intolerant ideologue†whose ideas “smack of the same McCarthyism [Edward R.] Murrow fought so valiantly against.†Beck added, “Hey, Keith, you’re not saving the world’s democracy; you’re killing it, my friend, by trying to limit the marketplace of ideas to only those that reflect your own.â€
This statement is ludicrous. First he says ideologists are intolerant then goes on to say that ideology is a free market.
WTH?
If I am have a good idea and Beck doesn’t agree with it, I am intolerant. Why of course to Beck it is because he is an authoritarian.
Do not think as I think, do as I think you should do.
A9 your thinking Mr. Beck.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:05 amRolling Stone is a WEEKLY.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:09 am#11 Then flip the channel or are you too stupid to use the remote. Not saying your head exploding is a bad thing…
February 28th, 2007 at 12:10 amBeck IS THE McCarthyite, NOT Keith Olbermann! Beck should FOLLOW THE LEAD of his BEER NAMESAKE and PUT A LID ON IT, or AT LEAST A CAP before HIS F*CKING HEAD IS BLOWN OFF!!!! NOT THAT I or ANYONE WITH AN OUNCE OF BRAINS OR COMMON SENSE WOULD SHED A TEAR FOR THIS STUPID JERK-OFF Beck ANYWAY!!!!!
February 28th, 2007 at 12:10 amThey don’t call him beckerhead for nothing!
Comment by CC — February 27, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
ahem.. i coined that phrase. :)
i should trademark it. lol
February 28th, 2007 at 12:12 amDoes any one care what this man says except for the radical right?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:15 am#15 Be fair Ray. The right wingers are not exactly gifted. They HAVE to listen to someone with a similar intellect. It isn’t like these schmucks are Stephen Hawking…or even Steve-O.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:15 amEverybody must contact CNN to fire Glenn Beck. His fascist views do not represent average Americans, so therefore his words are utter nonsense.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:18 amIntolerance for glenn beck’s racism is no vice.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:18 amGlenn Beck is a CIA Operative with a specialty in propaganda.
Truth.
Just look at him.
CIA all right.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:19 amI’m so confused. I thought right-wingers considered McCarthyism to be a good thing.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:19 am#21 Only when it is a right winger doing it Renato. Consistency is not a virtue among the righties.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:22 amZING!!!! Jpark, you just put me in my place. Keith used to be a funny guy that people liked. Now he is an angry malcontent that bitches about everything.
I would venture to say that you are the type of guy that gets all his news from liberal blogs and liberal opinion shows. You also think that because you are liberal, you are extremely intelligent. You have obviously been put on this Earth to save us all.
Conservatives are the devil, right? If it makes you comfortable to call me stupid, that’s great. I’m sure you are very successful at serving coffee at Starbucks or whatever menial, liberal job you have.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:23 amMaybe Glenn is pissed at Victor Ashe being the third with Taggart instead of himself. Gay rage is not cute in the world of politics Glenn, dress up like a veitnamese 11 year old and Rush will have you by for cookies. Comment by Vance
pl.indymedia.org | George Bush Sends Flowers,Etc. to Victor Ashe
President George W. Bush has sent Victor Ashe, the US Ambassador to Poland and a “special” friend since their cheerleader and cohabitation days at Yale …
poland.indymedia.org/pl/2004/09/9014.shtml
Oh how special and cute. Hey Vance, bet your jealous, eh?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:25 amGlenn who?
He’s irrelevant.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:26 amonservatives are the devil, right? If it makes you comfortable to call me stupid, that’s great. I’m sure you are very successful at serving coffee at Starbucks or whatever menial, liberal job you have.
Comment by What up
Yet the poor liberals own the media and hollywood. You seem to have your myths confused. Which is it? Are they poor limbaugh drug users or are they wealthy media giants? Are they bankers or are they broke?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:27 amOh, and by the way, to every other liberal posting on this site: What qualifies any of you to insult conservatives intelligence (not that I think Beck is a genius. I really don’t care for the guy)? Do any of you have any graduate degrees or doctorates in anything? Do you read anything else besides liberal blogs or liberal publications? Can you have a real debate with someone without calling them names or insulting their intelligence? Have you ever read articles dissenting with your opinions to get the full story? Or does it make you feel comfortable to pass judgment from your thrones? So sorry to offend you, your majesties.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:28 amHey ‘What Up’- why don’t you watch TEN MINUTES of Olbermann and see if your head _does_ ‘blow up.
And hey- ‘LIBURLS (heart) Tayurriss’s’- keep on posting and you’ll PROVE that you slept thru 6th grade civics class.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:32 amConservatives are the devil, right?
You can’t even get your own opinions straight.
Who said the conservatives are the debbil? Falwell?
They are, to me, authoritarian materialists, quite the opposite of what Jesus taught. Thus they are hypocrites.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:32 amIn Orwell’s 1984 book, words are twisted into opposite meanings, like up is down and down is up, right becomes left and left becomes right, etc. So Beck is using Orwellian double-speak to twist Olberman into a new McCarthy, when actually Beck himself is into McCarthyism. Progressives are NOT fascists, but far-right GOPers are fascists.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:33 amI never watch his trash but I was flipping through the channels tonight and I was amazed to see that Glenn Beck had Bernie Kerik on. Bernie Kerik! I had to stop and watch for a bit.
They went on and on about what a terrible threat Iran is to the US, talking like they’re mideast experts instead of shameless corporate shills.
It was such an over-the-top display of reckless war-mongering, I pictured Randolph Hearst’s mummified countenance blushing in his casket.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:35 amComment by What up — February 28, 2007 @ 12:28 am
to be more intelligent then glenn beck is not that hard a test.
and yes, im smarter then glenn beck, ive challenged him to a debate, but hes too much of a coward to debate me, probably because he knows ill destroy him verbally.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:35 am#18- “not like these schmucks are like Stephen Hawking, or Steve-O”
OUCH! lets be nice to the Conturdies, eh?
Nah, tell ‘em like it IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 28th, 2007 at 12:36 amWhat up > go to RedState.com > RS would appreciate your views, but we do not.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:36 amOh, and by the way, to every other liberal posting on this site: What qualifies any of you to insult conservatives intelligence?
Stuff like this;
Conservatives are the devil, right? -whatup
Also when a Conservative writes books about Godless ‘liberals (which I am not) that is an insult. As if God plays politics. As if Jesus knew what a Republican was. Such books are highly unintelligent.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:37 amHe’s just jealous.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:39 amGlenn Beck is a moron in moron’s clothing.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:41 amCrazy Eddie, so authoritarian materialists are all conservatives? What about all the liberals in Hollywood? What about all the CEO’s that support liberal causes? What about all the union leaders? I guess these people don’t have a material nature. Well, I’m sure you have taken a vow of poverty. Your material nature obviously helped you purchase a computer for the box you live in (since you aren’t material, right?) Like I said, none of you can have a true debate without calling me a name or demeaning my beliefs.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:42 amHey, what up, your nym says it all about your “intelligence”. You’re an idiot and a fool, and I or any other liberal would destroy you in a debate on whatever subject you chose, using facts instead of noise. Graduate degrees and doctorates are easily bought (look at the idiot in the White House); intelligence is something else again, and it requires imagination and curiousity, both of which are non-existent on the right. As you have so fully proven this evening.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:42 am… i’ve always wondered about this:
to every other NEOCON posting on this site: What qualifies any of you to insult PROGRESSIVE’s intelligence? Do any of you have any graduate degrees or doctorates in anything? Do you read anything else besides NEOCON blogs or NEOCON publications? Can you have a real debate with someone without calling them names or insulting their intelligence? Have you ever read articles dissenting with your opinions to get the full story? Or does it make you feel comfortable to pass judgment ON OTHERS?…
…actually, no, i really don’t wonder… it’s obvious…
February 28th, 2007 at 12:42 am.
Crazy Eddie, so authoritarian materialists are all conservatives?
No, thats not what I wrote.
I said to me they are, what others think is their opinion and just because I think it does not make it so.
If you think all liberals work at menial jobs, it does not make it so.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:48 amCapice?
Beck’s a bigot, right winged nut bag and yes I did force myself to watch his show…Miserable…Funny how he make’s statement’s slamming Keith and accusing him of the very thing he is guilty of…..No suprise here though…Heard today MSNBC’s ratings are up 58% and was attributed to the Olberman show popularety…..Heard that on CNN, isnt that funny…
One last shot over the bow for all the new trollie poster and of course the old hang on kid’s..Nascar racer’s alway’s turn to the left after the streight away..Just a little fact for ya all…Blessings all…..Peace
February 28th, 2007 at 12:51 amKaty, who said I was a Neocon? I really don’t care for the job that the Bush administration has done. They haven’t addressed any issues that are truly important to this country: social security reform, welfare reform, clean energy, etc. Like I said, I’m sure it makes you all comfortable to espouse what I believe. I don’t base my opinions on the rigid lines on political parties or agendas. This country’s problems won’t be solved by people like you. None of you have really seen past the idea that I have a generally conservative stance. What you fail to realize is that we all really need the same things (some of the issues I mentioned above). Try being open-minded for a minute. It feels good. Trust me…
February 28th, 2007 at 12:56 amFirst watched the John Gibson clip
followed by the Glenn Beck clip
now if you’ll excuse me
I think I have to puke
Peace!
February 28th, 2007 at 12:57 amLike I said, none of you can have a true debate without calling me a name or demeaning my beliefs.
Comment by What up
I have no idea what your beliefs are, nor have I called you any names.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:57 amSo Beck is saying he represents for the “Terrified little bigot” American deomographic.
He has a point tho, long as he doesn’t call for anybodies death. Just as Olbermann to is free to MOCK Beck for his ignorance.
Beck wanna look stupid, Beck getta look stupid.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:59 amOh, and Katy, I was just wondering what made you so intelligent and qualified to pass judgment on the rest of us. It was an honest question. You are all insulting my intelligence because I challenged your beliefs. I am entitled to defend myself. I mean, it seems like you guys have all the answers. You all must be a bunch of doctors or something. I think I am way out of my league. I only have a Masters. Poor, stupid me.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:02 amWhat about all the liberals in Hollywood? -WU
Why do you confuse their profession with political ideology?
What about all the union leaders?
I was a Teamster for 5 years. Unions have outlived, I think, their usefullness and are in bed with the company.
Well, I’m sure you have taken a vow of poverty.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:03 amI chose to work on aircraft for a living, it’s not the best paying job in the world but it’s interesting. If I were material, as you accuse me of, then I would have been a lobbyist or a stockbroker, or a thief.
More projection and hypocrisy from the party of projection and hypocrisy.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:04 amOh, and Katy, I was just wondering what made you so intelligent and qualified to pass judgment on the rest of us. -whatup
Well, I’m sure you have taken a vow of poverty -whatup
Judging are we?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:05 amThere is something wrong here!
February 28th, 2007 at 1:05 amBeck trounces his opponent, but when he mentions 3 things he holds up 4 fingers.
He denounces the left of failing democracy but fails to metion the right trashing the left as a failure of democracy.
Is this the future of the US? Left vs Right and no middle ground?
This isn’t democracy, this is verbal civil war.
No good will come of this but more hatred of each other.
The mind and a parachute are the same.
They work better when they are open. Dhali Lama.
What up, I havent called you names and don’t want to debate you either..Don’t care what you ideas are..If you have something interesting to say or a link to something of importance then post it other wise it seems all you want to do is pick a fight and demand attention….I’m to busy to play with you and refuse to baby sit…..Blessings and be gone..
February 28th, 2007 at 1:09 amCrazy Eddie, I agree that you didn’t call me names (unlike others on this site). But you did pigeonhole me with conservatives that hate people based on political beliefs. I don’t think liberals are godless at all. In fact, if you don’t believe in God, good for you. That’s your opinion.
I have friends will all different kinds of beliefs. I have friends that are very liberal and we have great debates together. But at the end of the day, we are still friends. I can disagree with someone without calling them stupid.
Like I said, we all have the same basic goals. For instance, we all want to help the poor. On one hand, many liberals prefer government intervention as a means to help the less fortunate. On the other hand, many conservatives prefer some government intervention, but also believe in charities and people helping themselves. We’re not all a bunch of heartless pricks as some of you may believe. Many of you would benefit from talking with a conservative one-on-one. We’re good people too…
February 28th, 2007 at 1:10 amI thought the record clearly showed Glenn Beck to be a bigot (reference him on mediamatters) and his continued existence on the air shows the levels which CNN like all the other networks have sunk. He might make a nice firecracker for AM radio in some backwater redneck town, but he shouldn’t be on a NEWS NETWORK.
And the guy comes off as a pompus azzhole, the kind of guy who would bump into you in a bar and end up getting his head cracked open trying to fight you.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:11 amSHORT AND TO THE POINT!” GLENN BECK IS A “F**K WAD…AND BIGOT”
February 28th, 2007 at 1:13 amYou all must be a bunch of doctors or something. I think I am way out of my league. I only have a Masters. Poor, stupid me.
Comment by What up
Michael, err, whatup, what is, to you, wisdom? Can you find it in a book?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:13 amBy taking a test on the book you read? Does a piece of paper, I have many of these ‘training’ certs, make you wise?
You all must be a bunch of doctors or something. I think I am way out of my league. I only have a Masters. Poor, stupid me.
Comment by What up
I was willing to ignore it the first 2 times you asked, but since you seem insecure enough to keep harping on this subject, I’ll indulge you. Just remember that you started the pissing contest, and it truly gives me no pleasure to castrate you.
I’m a doctor (MD), and I’m probably smarter than you. I’ve also done some bench research in statistical genetics, but am not a scientist, and do not have a PhD. Happy?
I can’t speak for the others, though, or their degrees.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:20 amEddie, I wasn’t jugding you. I was making a point that everyone here wants to do well for themselves. We all have a material nature. It was just a sarcastic comment to illustrate my point.
Just because my chosen profession is in the business world does not make me materialistic. (Not that I even mentioned my career path before, but I get the impression that a lot of liberals think business is all about greed. I also make the assumption that liberal associate business with conservatives.) However, it’s what I’m good at. I’ve always been great with numbers. I love to work with numbers. I’ve also been a manager. Not because I am materialistic or power hungry, but because I enjoy leading people. I like setting strategic visions and achieving goals (probably like most of you). However, I perform volunteer work to give back to my community as well. I believe in the greater good, just like the rest of you.
Eddie, you sound like a hard working guy. I wasn’t saying anything about these groups beliefs. I am just saying that liberals can have a materialistic nature too. My examples may be extreme, but they illustrate my point.
By the way, unions have done a lot of good for this country. I tend to agree with you though. Some union leaders put their good over the good of their members.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:20 amIf my memory serves me Glenn Beck, on his radio show, fantasized about killing Michael Moore.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:22 amFor instance, we all want to help the poor. -whatup.
Didn’t say you didn’t.
Many of you would benefit from talking with a conservative one-on-one. We’re good people too -whatup
Didn’t say you weren’t.
Spending trillions on a democratic experiment is basically welfare for non Americans. Why is it that it’s okay to waste so much for a country alot of, but not nearly all, conservatives hate but not okay to use that money to build a better America?
I talk to conservatives all the time.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:24 amEddie, wisdom is experiencing life. Wisdom can come from education, but it can also come from something as simple as raising a family. My point with that comment was to highlight the fact that some poeple that post on this site think I am stupid because I have some conservative beliefs. I was just wondering what made them so smart. I was defending myself by alluding to the fact that I am an educated guy, so I must have a brain cell or two. I don’t care if anyone here has a doctorate or just a high school degree. I just take offense to the fact that some people, who know nothing about me, make wild assumptions about my intelligence and beliefs.
Also, I can’t believe this started with me talking about when Keith was cool. What a tangent…
February 28th, 2007 at 1:25 amGlenn Beck, that cat’s bout as sharp as a marble…
February 28th, 2007 at 1:27 am(Not that I even mentioned my career path before, but I get the impression that a lot of liberals think business is all about greed. I also make the assumption that liberal associate business with conservatives.)
Business is about the bottom line. Today we have more extreme poverty than we have had in thirty years while an Exxon exec gets 400 million as a bonus. Athletes, playing a game, make millions a year.
Disparity is high, and I fear that disparity will be the fall of our country. Disparity drives people to sell drugs, or steal. Disparity, I think, is the silver bullet into the heart of what makes America great, it’s people.
Live and let live.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:30 amFreedom, Equality, Brotherhood.
Where are you?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:32 amWhoa, Nads. Chill out buddy. I’m sure you are a great scientist. My question was sarcastic and rhetorical. I’m sure you are more well versed in science than I am. However (I will make an assumption here), I would venture to say that you couldn’t sell something to save your life. I would also venture to say that I have a better grasp of economic markets than someone in your profession. These are just examples, but my point is that knowledge is all relative. I’m sure I there are areas that you excel in, just as there are areas that I excel in.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:33 amI ate the world’s democracy for breakfast. I expect to poop it out by this evening.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:34 amnone of you can have a true debate without calling me a name or demeaning my beliefs.
Comment by What up
But unless you’re defending glenn beck’s racist statements, the name-calling really shouldn’t affect you.
The over-simplification that conservatives are stupid, presumably based on posts #14 and #18, are aimed directly at those defending beck’s attacks against olbermann … attacks which are obvious projections of beck’s own authoritarianism and racism.
… of course, if you ARE defending beck’s racism, then we’re about to have a very different conversation. you essentially cede any right to “civlity” when defending things like racism, torture, human rights … glenn beck, of course, has forfeited the right to not be called out for his atrocious words, and I have little patience for those who defend trash like him.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:37 amI just take offense to the fact that some people, who know nothing about me, make wild assumptions about my intelligence and beliefs.
It’s a sympton of todays divisive media and internet anonymous speak. I see it in both sides and in many books.
I refuse to consider myself a democrat or a conservative. Political ideology has become, somehow, associated with lifestyles.
I hate the TV. Really. I want to take it outside and beat it with a hammer.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:37 amEddie, I am agreeing with you. However, I have my limits as well. I wouldn’t work for an oil company because I don’t believe in their business. But for the record, Exxon has a profit margin around 10%. In business, that is pretty low. They have to make a profit. I mean, should they operate at a loss? If they did, a lot of people (executives and rank-and-file workers alike) would lose their jobs. Also, for the record, if we didn’t have businesses, people in this country could not enjoy the lives they have today. Sure, the ultimate goal of business is profit. But when you are employed, isn’t your goal profit?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:38 amI would venture to say that you couldn’t sell something to save your life.
I can lay some game on the females … but that’s about it.
I would also venture to say that I have a better grasp of economic markets than someone in your profession. These are just examples, but my point is that knowledge is all relative. I’m sure I there are areas that you excel in, just as there are areas that I excel in.
Comment by What up
almost certainly true.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:40 amAlso, (I’m not trying to be a dick here) but where do you think a lot of charities get large donations from? If you analyze many businesses’ Balance Sheets, you will find that they make significant contributions to the community. The company that used to employ me had a variety of programs designed to encourage volunteerism among employees. In fact, I participated in a Habitat for Humanity and a Big Brothers program through me company. I’m not trying to blow my own horn here. I’m just saying that many responsible businesses give more money and time to the community than all of us combined (me included).
February 28th, 2007 at 1:42 amThe site is turning into mind masterbation for one…..Geeeees…Boring, time to leave..
February 28th, 2007 at 1:42 amTouche Nads. I does take some sales skills to get a girl. I actually chuckled at that one.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:43 am# 31. citizen Abel @ 12:35;
Great post.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:47 amA must read.
But when you are employed, isn’t your goal profit?
No. I work to live and do not live to work. I am not a battery to be used then discarded. I am not a figure on a spreadsheet. I am not a number.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:52 amis it just me, or is Herr Beck’s color choice–his predilection for loden light and silver– not more than a little instructive of his ’spiritual’ roots?
a coupla little parallel lightning patches would not be misplaced on his lapels, would they?
the ‘honest fascist’…folks in louisiana usta justify david duke by claiming “somebody’s gotta say it.”
in this ‘frei marktplatz” of ideas, where do i get to set up my table?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:54 amThey have to make a profit. I mean, should they operate at a loss? -whatup
If Exxons profit margin is so slim then why such big bonuses? Isn’t that kinda silly as a business that only has a 10% profit margin?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:56 amTouche Nads. I does take some sales skills to get a girl. I actually chuckled at that one.
Comment by What up
Naw, just act as if your not interested in them. No skills needed. =)
February 28th, 2007 at 2:05 amOk, Eddie, but you don’t work for free right? You do draw a paycheck to support yourself, right? Because if you work for free, I could use a guy like you.
If your point is that some executives get exorbitant salaries, I agree. However, there are a whole host of people that approve of that transaction (probably including yourself). Have you ever held a share of stock? If so, then you have the voting rights to replace management if you believe they are not serving your interests. Everyone from the wealthiest investor to the little grannies that own stock hold these rights. A corporation is a democracy. If you don’t like what management is doing, then you can vote for a different Board of Directors with different goals and different management choices.
Also, I never said you were a spreadsheet. That sounded really funny when you said that though. Did you ever consider the fact that some people enjoy their jobs and don’t consider themselves to be “a battery to be used and then discarded”? It sounds like you don’t enjoy your work. Find something you love to do.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:06 amEddie, good call on women. I laughed at that one too.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:08 amOk, so today was actually the first time I’ve been on this site. I followed a link and here I am. But I’ve had fun. I lived, I laughed, I even cried a little. Since you guys took me mind off of my exams this week, I am grateful. This link is to a pilot for a t.v. show that never got picked up. My gift from me to you…enjoy
February 28th, 2007 at 2:16 am
But for the record, Exxon has a profit margin around 10%. In business, that is pretty low. Comment by What up
Not for a commodities company – it’s obscenely high. We all know that’s after they’ve hidden the profits through giveaways to management, and other bookkeeping magic to hide their profits and gouging. Yet they still had the largest profits of any business, being a commodities business that just sucks crap from the ground.
You people really don’t know anything about ‘business’ or ‘economics’ for being so monetarily obsessed do you?
February 28th, 2007 at 2:16 amHave you ever held a share of stock? If so, then you have the voting rights to replace management if you believe they are not serving your interests. Comment by What up — February 28, 2007 @ 2:06 am
Not all stocks have voting rights.
Everyone from the wealthiest investor to the little grannies that own stock hold these rights. A corporation is a democracy. Comment by What up — February 28, 2007 @ 2:06 am
A democracy? You’re a fcuking idiot. It isn’t a democracy. In democracies, every person has a single vote. It’s a fascist state, something you fascist fcukheads love.
If you don’t like what management is doing, then you can vote for a different Board of Directors with different goals and different management choices. Comment by What up — February 28, 2007 @ 2:06 am
What happens if you’re a customer that’s gouged by those companies, and they are an oligarchy that colludes? What then schmuck? Being that as a ‘citizen’ you have no ‘rights’?
You people on the rightwingnuttery are fcuking idiots.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:19 amBut I’ve had fun. I lived, I laughed, I even cried a little. Comment by What up — February 28, 2007 @ 2:16 am
Yet, like all of the ‘clones’ that have come before you, you could fill the void between galaxies with the volume of your ignorance. Your talking points are as stupid, and repeated as a catechism.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:21 amValiantVenusGrewFromUranus, calm down son! You are one angry guy. Who pissed in your Wheaties today? And for that matter, who said I was right wing?
Is it your idea that all businesses should operate at a loss? Don’t challenge me on something that you know nothing about. Do you want to challenge me on voting rights? Let’s see if you knew this one, smart guy: All Common Stock carry one vote with each share. However, there are shares without voting rights, and those shares are called Preferred Shares. However, Preferred shares come with other perks not associated with Common Shares. For instance, if a company is liquidated, the owners of Preferred shares have first right to any money left over after all owners of debt have been paid. Common shares get whatever is left over. Futhermore, Preferred shares also get special dividends that Common shares may not realize.
So please don’t wax estatic on some shit you obviously know nothing about. What do you do for a living anyway? Are you Mother Teresa or something?
February 28th, 2007 at 2:27 amCrazy Eddie, this is the shit I was talking about. Guys like ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus. A guy who probably tells everyone how “accepting” he is. But when someone has an honest difference of opinion with him, he resorts to name calling and shit talking. Well Valiant, you shouted me down. You win. You screamed the loudest. Life is too short to argue with people like you. You think you know everything and we are all serfs in your kingdom. Sorry to offend, your majesty.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:30 amOk, so today was actually the first time I’ve been on this site. I followed a link and here I am. But I’ve had fun. I lived, I laughed, I even cried a little. Since you guys took me mind off of my exams this week, I am grateful. This link is to a pilot for a t.v. show that never got picked up. My gift from me to you…enjoy
Oh, you’ll be back, but not know why. =)
Dude, why would I want to see some unpicked show?
That’s not a gift, thats like lighting a paper bag full of dog crap on my front porch then ringing the bell.
I. hate. TV. and. want. to. beat. it. with. a. hammer.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:33 am(or stomp on the flaming bag of dog crap)
Crazy Eddie, this is the shit I was talking about. Guys like ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus.
Be the bigger person =)
February 28th, 2007 at 2:35 amEddie, it doesn’t look like the link posted. The dogshit comment was funny though. The link was to a 3 minute clip about a show called Gay Robot (I think it was a little too politically incorrect to actually air on tv). It was produced by Adam Sandler (who has done a few funny things in his career).
Anyway, I was just trying to bridge our differences with a little humor. If you are interested, go to gorillamask.net and find the link about the 10 best robot moments on t.v. (it’s the second choice). It’s worth your time. A little mindless humor to fritter some time away.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:39 amValiantVenusGrewFromUranus: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I am smart!!!!! Everyone listen to me!!!!!!!!!!!! If you disagree, I will kill you!!!!!!!! Repsect my authority!!!!!!!! I hate life!!!!!!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
February 28th, 2007 at 2:41 amYou think you know everything and we are all serfs in your kingdom.
Actually whatup mankind knows very little, I myself have no wisdom, I freely admit that, and we, in our unfounded wisdom, will continually create war, build empires, then wonder why they fell, then repeat that same madness over and over.
Crazy Eddie, the name, comes from the book called “A mote in Gods eye.
Perhaps you will read it someday.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:41 amEddie, it doesn’t look like the link posted. The dogshit comment was funny though. The link was to a 3 minute clip about a show called Gay Robot
LOL. Funny name for a show.
BTW how are Robots Gay by hooking a positive lead to a positive lead? The I can only suspect my car battery is heterosexual =)
February 28th, 2007 at 2:44 amAnyway, I was just trying to bridge our differences with a little humor.
Our differences are only ideological and are nothing to anger over. We have much more in common than not.
Anyway, Im gonna fix a nitecap and drift off to netherworld.
TTYL whatup.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:47 amEddie, I wasn’t referring to you with that post about that guy. You seem like you can have an honest debate.
By the way, the show’s premise (or what I could tell from the clip), is that this professor created a robot, but he spilled a wine cooler on it and it came out as gay. He is an intelligent robot that just happens to like human guys. I don’t think car batteries can be gay…. or can they?
February 28th, 2007 at 2:50 amHave a good one Eddie. Nice talkin’ with you. Maybe I’ll be back… one day… in time. Some of the comments others made cut me deep. It will take a lot of psychological healing and deep therapy, but I think I’ll make it. I just have to take it one day at time…. day by day.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:52 amMy room mate was randomly flipping channels and he landed on Glenn Beck one day, and he said “He looks like a racist.”. Apparently looks are everything.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:53 amBy the way, the show’s premise (or what I could tell from the clip), is that this professor created a robot, but he spilled a wine cooler on it
This reminds me of the book ‘Brave new World’ where people in the future are all test tube babies and one of the main characters had alcohol put into his tube (canters) and was unlike the rest.
Ennyhoo, it’s a good read on what technology and humanity might one day encounter in our quest for peace and utopia.
BTW I didn’t think you were referring to me.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:58 amBrave New World was a good read. I don’t know if Adam Sandler goes that deep though.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:04 amWhy does he talk with a British accent when trying to quote Olbermann ? Is this the voice of the new liberal elite… a snooty Brit ?
Beck is such a lightweight
February 28th, 2007 at 3:07 amCrazy Eddie & What up:
ValientVenusGrewFromUranus is a well known idiot around this blog.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:08 amHe likes to chase perceived trolls around and call them filthy names,especially the female ones.
Hey What Up,
You impugned our educational backgrounds, so for your edification, I have undergraduate majors in biology and music, along with master’s degrees in biology, philosophy, theology, and divinity, as well as a doctorate in molecular biology. I’m also a military officer, and yes, I’m an old “leftist hippie.” Glenn Beck trades on people’s fears, as do so many so-called Christian conservatives, who, if they really were Christians would be living without fear, and certainly would not try to incite and feed it in others. Pitiful. It must be hell to go through life that way….
February 28th, 2007 at 3:11 amI don’t know if Adam Sandler goes that deep though.
Comment by What up
Adam Sandler is about as deep as the holes he putts.
I am talking getting illuminated!!
February 28th, 2007 at 3:15 amanother o’reilly – i don’t watch him either. in beck’s case i have never watched him-i knew from the start that there would be no information just scare tactics
February 28th, 2007 at 3:33 amOh, and by the way, to every other liberal posting on this site: What qualifies any of you to insult conservatives intelligence (not that I think Beck is a genius. I really don’t care for the guy)? Do any of you have any graduate degrees or doctorates in anything? Do you read anything else besides liberal blogs or liberal publications
Comment by What up.
We have every right to insult your intelligence because you voted for Bush twice.
On Nov 3, 2006 you still thought you were winning the war in Iraq because Bush told you so despite what you saw with your own two eyes on TV News every night. Unless you were wathincg Faux News.
So yeah those of you who still are Conservative and allowed your party to be hijacked and continue to repeat the morning right wing email statements to respond to your prarty screws ups deserve to have your intelligence questioned.
It has nothing to do with a degree. Conservatives just lack common sense.
You actually beleived the things Bush and Dick were telling you.
Dick Cheney has started to beleive his own lies.
A true Conservative.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:09 amBill Maher: George of the Bungle
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/maherbushbungle.htm
Mocking President Bush for general ineptitude, comedian Bill Maher delivered a funny rant as part of his “New Rules” segment on HBO’s “Real Time With Bill Maher”:
“Seriously, Mr. President, this job can’t be fun for you anymore. There’s no more money to spend; you used up all of that. You can’t start another war because you also used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people.”
“New rule: American must recall the president. That’s what this country needs – a good old-fashioned, California-style recall election, complete with Gary Coleman, porno actresses, and action film stars. And just like Schwarzenegger’s predecessor here in California, George Bush is now so unpopular, he must now defend his job against…Russell Crowe, because at this point I want a leader who will throw a phone at somebody. In fact, let’s have only phone throwers. Naomi Campbell can be the vice president.
“Now I kid, but seriously, Mr. President, this job can’t be fun for you anymore. There’s no more money to spend; you used up all of that. You can’t start another war because you also used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people. Yeah, listen to your mom, the cupboard’s bare, the credit card’s maxed out, and no one’s speaking to you. Mission accomplished.
“Now it’s time to do what you’ve always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service. And the oil company. And the baseball team. It’s time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy or spaceman? Now, I know what you’re saying, you’re saying that there are so many other things that you as president could involve yourself in. Please don’t. I know, there a lot left to do. There’s a war with Venezuela, and eliminating the sales tax of yachts, turning the space program over to the church and Social Security to Fannie Mae, giving embryos the vote.
“But sir, none of that is going to happen now. Why? Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You’ve performed so poor, I’m surprised you haven’t given yourself a medal. You’re a catastrophe that walks like a man. Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire metropolis to rising water and snakes. On your watch, we’ve lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon, and the city of New Orleans. Maybe you’re just not lucky. I’m not saying you don’t love this country, I’m just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side. So yes, God does speak to you, and what he’s saying is, ‘Take a hint.’”
-Bill Maher, HBO’s “Real Time With Bill Maher,” Sept. 9, 2005
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-rovearrested.htm
Karl Rove’s Perp Walk
View a doctored photo depicting Karl Rove being hauled away from the White House in handcuffs.
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http://www.borowitzreport.com/archive_rpt.asp?rec=1255&srch=
Rove Caught Cheating in White House Ethics Class
Just days after President George W. Bush ordered the White House staff to take what was called a “refresher” course on ethics, his top aide Karl Rove was caught cheating during the first pop quiz given in the course. (From the Borowitz Report)
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I find it ironic that Olbermann is accused of ‘McCarthyism’ by a person like G.Beck. !!
Olbermann is now targeted by him,O’reilly and others,because he refused to be silent, and his style is getting momentum….and that translate to anger by his opponents who survive on spinning the daily issues and tailor them to suit,defending the obvious to all
Beck talking about…’one night Olbermann will say something that might cost him his career in television’….In fact Olbermann just signed a multi year contract……
Beck:’Don’t worry about OLbermann employment and career….’Just learn not be silent when the government or your party make mistakes….” and learn from Olbermann…..and stop spinning.
February 28th, 2007 at 6:27 amGlen Beck’s gives me an instant headache. I hope you don’t think I’d actually watch this bigot yokel. You do it for me, OK? He’s not a joke, he’s a black hole who lowers the IQ of anyone within sound of his voice.
February 28th, 2007 at 6:49 am#1. The world’s democracy is bull…. the American president may be the mightiest of statesmen and have an effect on the ENTIRE world, but none other than idiot Americans are aloud to elect him/her. That’s not a democracy, that’s special interests.
#2 Does anyone notice how these Con-perv-atives commit every crime they accuse anyone else of? Bush keeps crying how the Taliban are killing and oppressing people. Cheney keep yapping how the democrats are abusing the truth. Beck blaims Keith for limiting the marketplace of ideas to those that reflect his own.
#3 There’s only one way out of this crap….get yourself a gun and start a REAL civil war/revolution.
February 28th, 2007 at 7:26 amstop watching this lowlife slut
February 28th, 2007 at 7:39 amDoes it seem to you that the hallmark of right wing thought is at it’s core just a great wad of Freudian projection?
February 28th, 2007 at 7:42 am[...] of Sec’y Rice’s remarks, and how artfully Olbermann rebuked her. . Additionally, and as Think Progress notes, during an interview for Rolling Stone Olbermann opined about CNN’s arch-right host, Glenn [...]
February 28th, 2007 at 7:59 am#109 Yep. It’s called ‘reaction formation’. Goes something along the lines of “I know you are but what am I?” Republicans are nothing but brats slinging childish taunts at those who dare question their bad behavior.
I would like to thank ValiantVenus for putting What Up in his place. For a guy who claims to know “economics markets” (whatever the f that means), What Up shows some incredible naiveté in terms of how economics really operates.
February 28th, 2007 at 8:18 amRightwinger Rule #1:
Accuse others of sins you yourself are guilty of.
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If he thinks Olbermann says bad things…. he should hear the things I say in my mind I would like to do with people (like Beck) that have protected the Saudis and Bin Ladens from Americas wrath after 911… And yes it would make use of those Haliburton detention centers.
February 28th, 2007 at 8:27 amTake a closer look at the shot of Beck above… it says below him…
“Fun Fact: Keith definitely not liberal.”
And their proof?
“No Way.”
brilliant insight indeed.
February 28th, 2007 at 8:32 amIt seems to me that Beck and Olberman have exactly the same amount of influence as each other. Olberman has no special power except to try to sway public opinion, as does Mr. Beck.
February 28th, 2007 at 8:47 amMr. Beck sounds a little jealous that Mr. Olberman seems to get his message across more effectively. Maybe Mr. Beck should stop focusing on other messengers, and start paying attention to the powers in Washington that have the rea power in the country. Do your job, Mr. Beck. The rest will take care of itself.
The sad fact is that Glenn Beck doesn’t seem to realize his stupidity or his bigotry. I agree with Olberman that one of his comments will soon cost him his job and he will be walking out the door scratching his head. Beck epitomizes the distorted thought processes of the rightwing think tank….it’s the very same psycopathology manifested by Hitler and Stalin….believing that you’ve been sent by the Creator to engage in activities “above the law of man & nature” and you’ve convinced yourself somehow that it’s the “right thing to do”. Bush calls it “listening to his gut (or his Father above, as the case may be); however, we all know that it emanates from a fermenting bowel – a miasma of evil which has consumed one’s soul.
February 28th, 2007 at 8:49 amBeckerhead: Today’s Worst Person in the World! Actually everyday’s worst person in the world!
February 28th, 2007 at 8:57 amGlenn Beck is a dry drunk, just like his hero W. Two peas in a pod.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:13 amTime Warner is the problem. They hired this bigot. CNN (unlike MSNBC) is having its clock cleaned by Faux News.
So, some intellectual giant in Time Warner decided it was time to join Murdoch in his unrelenting support of the most wildly bigoted, hate-filled NeoCons. And, PRESTO, you have this little smart-aleck spouting NeoCon talking points and bad mouthing and slandering anyone who disagrees with NeoCon cant.
Want to stop it? Watch CNN advertisements and call/write/email their sponsors, demanding that they stop their movement to the crazed NeoCon right. If you are currently buying the crap the advetizers are shilling, STOP!!
February 28th, 2007 at 9:36 amBigotry and political philosophy aside; Beck sounds like an exited whiney little girl when he speaks. Maybe Rita Copsby could give him a few lessons in how to, at least, sound like a man.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:44 amGlenn beck – “Limbaugh Lite – savor all the rich creamy hatred with only half the talent !!!”
February 28th, 2007 at 9:50 amComment by What Up:
“Oh, and by the way, to every other liberal posting on this site: What qualifies any of you to insult conservatives intelligence (not that I think Beck is a genius. I really don’t care for the guy)? Do any of you have any graduate degrees or doctorates in anything?”
Um, I have a law degree from NYU. And I’m a liberal. And I feel I’m “qualified” to say that Glenn Beck is a grade A, 100% authentic, Boob.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:55 amHey Glenn,
Prove to me you’re not a cracker on the outside with a white sheet over your head on the inside. Please explain yourself.
A friend of Keith Ellison’s wants to know.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:57 amBeck should awaken tomorrow morning…
…extraordinarily renditioned…
…and take his audience with him…
February 28th, 2007 at 10:12 amThe very idea smacks of the same McCarthyism Murrow fought so valiantly against.
Beck, you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:27 amOscar Wilde once said that “hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.” And Beck is the epitome of hypocrisy. He has no problem blaming victims, but he loves to play the victim himself when someone stands up to him.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:29 amIt’s simple really…
Neo-Cons = EVIL PERSONIFIED
February 28th, 2007 at 10:35 amI don’t remember Keith Olbermann calling for anyone’s execution, as opposed to Beck, who once offered to kill Michael Moore.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:35 amSounds like Mr. Beck has “the marketplace of ideas” confused with “the marketplace of FACTS.” You’re free to disagree with anyone, but attacking someone because the facts are on his side is–well, bigoted intolerant ideology!
February 28th, 2007 at 10:37 amThe answers to all that are “yes”. And after doing all of that, the only realization I can come up with is that people like Glen Beck are fools and idiots… as are the people who listen to what he has to say. There is nothing resembling “real debate” with what trolls like Beck have to say. You can’t debate someone who uses falsehoods and semantics which bear no relation to actual logic.
Also, this is an internet message board. If you are expecting “real debate” with thesis statements, proofs and defense, then you’re clearly looking in the wrong place.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:41 amThis idiot is so full of it!!! “Scripted questions that I know the answer to?” Sounds like George Bush to me and KO.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:47 am“…what he would like to say to Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first elected Muslim member of Congress”
My recollection is that he actually DID say this to Ellison, and Ellison handled it with more grace and class than Beck can even dream of.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:02 amProjecting again, Ben Gleck?
February 28th, 2007 at 11:24 amso when i call beck a hysterical ninny/dickhead, i’m just “struggling with ideas”
February 28th, 2007 at 11:32 amThanks Glenn for another reason on why I like KO. Gotta run out and get the latest copy of Rolling Stone now.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:37 am#135 – Tom, you’ve struggled with ideas…..when?
February 28th, 2007 at 11:46 am[...] Glen Beck sounds like a real fucker, no? [Think Progress] [...]
February 28th, 2007 at 11:55 amSo Beck has “liberal” staffers?
Yeah I heard he had a girlfriend too, but she lives in Canada so you probably wouldn’t know her.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:57 amBigotry and political philosophy aside; Beck sounds like an exited whiney little girl when he speaks. Maybe Rita Copsby could give him a few lessons in how to, at least, sound like a man.
Comment by . — February 28, 2007 @ 9:44 am
That was funny.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:41 pmThe trolls here think we should go to conservative blogs and express our opinions. Can they please give me the URL to any conservative blog that actually allows dissenting opinions? All the conservative blogs I have visited either don’t take comments directly (they only post the e-mails they receive that they agree with) or they delete your account the minute you express a dissenting view.
So, trolls, please let me know where I can go to express my opinion on a conservative blog, just like you are allowed to do here and on most liberal blogs.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:51 pmJust wiki Glenn Beck… he had a horrible tramatic childhood. He isn’t fit to be on the air proporting common sense.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:00 pm“Glenn Beck responded tonight, calling Olbermann an “intolerant ideologue†whose ideas “smack of the same McCarthyism [Edward R.] Murrow fought so valiantly against.†Beck added, “Hey, Keith, you’re not saving the world’s democracy; you’re killing it, my friend, by trying to limit the marketplace of ideas to only those that reflect your own.—
This is complete, perfect, Psychological Projection!!!
Glenn Beck doesn’t even know it! Glenn Beck is not talking about Olbermann, he’s talking about himself!!! He is laying it all out, by way of the psychological mess in his head, about who HE is, not Olbermann. This is true because it makes no logical sense that Olbermann is anything like this! But Glenn Beck fits the bill! Glenn Beck doesn’t even realise this, he’s better off brain dead, he IS brain dead.
“In psychology, psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which one attributes to others, one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions.”
February 28th, 2007 at 1:48 pm140. I have experienced this too. It’s because conservatives are psychopaths and afraid of the truth and being put in their place by people much more intellegent than them. They are horrified.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:50 pmComment by What Up:
“Oh, and by the way, to every other liberal posting on this site: What qualifies any of you to insult conservatives intelligence (not that I think Beck is a genius. I really don’t care for the guy)? Do any of you have any graduate degrees or doctorates in anything?â€
Bush graduated from Harvard, and he’s a psychopath and nearly a retard…he is one of the dumbest people in the world–if you can’t see that, then you can’t see the most obvious, nor a hand in front of your face.
I don’t give a hoot about degrees, from Bush and many people I have met who graduate from Ivy league schools show me that degrees or going to an expensive college means nothing. It has no correlation with intellegence, at all.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:56 pmooooo I spelled some words wrong, come and get me word police. Make some petty insults about how I can’t spell when you find me!
February 28th, 2007 at 2:03 pm[...] Immediately refer to your political adversary as the enemy (or working with the enemy). It also helps to claim that liberals hate the military despite the fact that the Democratic [...]
February 28th, 2007 at 2:07 pmI’m republican, and i think people like him AND keith are both full of crap. There are other ways of communicating without resorting to either level of their respective stupidities.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:21 pm“Look nobody watches this loser. Just forget him.”
Comment by Eargy Earp
–Dear God I wish that were true. He’s insanely popular, and on such a mainstream network as CNN, this should really bother us all.
I think (and no this isn’t accurate, but I bet I’m not far off) for every 1 of Keith Olbermann, there are 5 Glenn Becks.
~Dani
February 28th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI like to watch Olbermann because it puts down the right. What a great thing, especially after the unopposed sallying forth of all those people on Fox. But why are you all so upset? The thing about Olbermann is that it is obviously entertainment. Okay, the “Comments” are a bit extreme, but at least they’re listed as “Comments.”
February 28th, 2007 at 2:34 pmWhy do we have to know what Glenn Beck feels?
February 28th, 2007 at 2:38 pmHe is not a journalist, he does not present a balanced point of view. He presents guests that agree with him or further a story he wants or thinks people ought to know.
Where is the democracy in that?
What up: “What qualifies any of you to insult conservatives intelligence”
At this point, where does one start? You all felt it was right and proper to impeach a president because of a personal sexual affair. You all feel that a guy who wears cowboy boots and cowboy hats but is afraid of horses is more “authentic” than any of his adversaries. You all seem to have no problem with the evisceration of our constitution and the kinds of secrecy and corruption that would have sent you through the roof during Clinton’s adminsitration. You all were very excited by the incineration of a bunch of women and children during your wonderful “shock and awe” period. You call people who criticize his policies “traitors.” I could go on, but you get the idea…
February 28th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI think Keith Olbermann is jealous of those who are more successful. He should be happy he is Rolling Stones little darling. He attacked Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace and even our beloved Anderson Cooper. I turn to Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck to hear the truth. They are men inspired by God and decent traditional American values.
Glenn Beck represents the common man and it is a shame the liberals want him to disappear because they do not like what he says. This is McCarthism, Nazism and fascism. Liberals are hypocrites, they are for their own free speech and anyone else must be smeared and censored. I am glad Glenn Beck is looking out for me and my family. He is a real hero and a good looking man standing up against the Muslim and Spanish fascists that want to change the moral fabric of our clean decent country. He should be applauded for questioning the Muslim congressman Keith Ellison who tried to hide his ties to Islam in order to win an election. Now that is a wolf in sheep’s clothing
February 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWhat Up – try a bachelor’s from a Seven Sisters college and a master’s from a leading seminary, plus publication in a forthcoming collection of conference papers on medieval textiles. Just became I vote Democratic doesn’t mean I’m stupid, ignorant, or unable to read anything but liberal blogs.
As for Glenn Beck, he’s an intolerant yahoo. The comments to Keith Ellison alone should have gotten him fired, and I’m stunned that any one pays attention to someone with the seeming intelligence, wit, and courtesy of a baboon in rut.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:09 pmReply to #148 – Comment by Detachment
“Detachment,” you need detachment to stay in the same party with our current president and his president in charge of Vice! Wacthing those two (like Beck) shill for the global conglomerates that bought them into office must be hard for you to stomach.
Since I have decided to stay in a party that tolerates Biden, Lieberman and the other “NeoCon lites,” I feel your pain! {:-)
However, I disagree with you about KO. Keith seems to get his facts straight, and he doesn’t suffer fools gladly. Also, his stuff is truly funny!
Beck, in a face-to-face discussion with KO, on the so-called “facts” Beck spews out, would fold like a cheap BillO’ suit (or Limbaugh on drugs).
O’Reilly, Limbaugh, and Beck are simply not KO’s intellectual rivals. They are clearly spouting stuff that keeps them in good with the above-mentioned global conglomerates.
KO getting his contract renewed means he must be making tons of money for the GE oligarchy. It is nice to see that bunch of crocodiles working against their long-term interest. By allowing me to watch someone who encourages me, since I have no interest in promoting the long-term interest of either GE or MacroHard, it gives me hope that one day global conglomerates will be invited out of our political process. So, I’m glad KO did get a four-year contract.
Keith adds fun and enjoyment to the mainstream wasteland. And, when he gets serious, he is as serious as a NeoCon heart attack!
February 28th, 2007 at 3:15 pmReply to #153 – Comment by Crystal Glass
“…Keith Ellison who tried to hide his ties to Islam in order to win an election.”
What on earth are you blabbering about, little troll?
Keith Ellison, who took his oath of office on a copy of the Quoran tried to hide his “ties” to Islam?
What have you been smoking?
February 28th, 2007 at 3:21 pmDon’t fall for it. All this is, is an attempt by Glen Beck to get Keith Olbermann to put him on his Worst Person in the World list and start a feud with him to increase his popularity.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:26 pmNow something must be going on over at CNN that you and I are not privvy to. Could this be a way or old Glennie to pick up ratings by trying to start a fight with Keith.
KETIH DON’T TAKE THE BAIT. LET HIM DROWN IN HIS OWN SELF-MADE CESSPOOL OF BIGOTRY, HATE AND STUPIDITY!
Glenn Beck has struggled very hard to be friends with black people.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:27 pmOlbermann loves America and its freedoms.
Glenn Beck HATES America and its freedoms.
That is the essential difference.
GOP & supporters=AMERICA’S ENEMIES!!
THIS IS AN INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:30 pmRacist, sexist, drug-addled Beckerhead has no idea what Olbermann is talking about. But he’s jealous of him anyway.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:37 pmI watched a bit of Glenn Beck bonding with Danny Bonaduce and gee, two losers commiserating with each other! Olbermann is a genius compared to Beck. The guy is informed, opininated, and funny as hell. John Dean always seems amused by Olbermann’s questions because Olbermann asks questions that are spot on.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pmI guess what I like best about KO is that he doesn’t follow the Chris Matthews ruse of acting like he is being “fair” by putting on someone who agrees with his position and someone who disagrees with his position and then proceed to gang up and beat up on the one who disagrees.
That kind of “fairness” (a trademark of Faux News) I can do without. Thank you Keith!
February 28th, 2007 at 4:04 pmBeck says: “I could just stay out of trouble by asking clearly scripted questions to guests who won`t disagree”
He’s talking about Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and the conservative talk radio crowd here, right?
February 28th, 2007 at 4:20 pmReply to #156 – Comment by Crystal Glass
“…Keith Ellison who tried to hide his ties to Islam in order to win an election.â€
What on earth are you blabbering about, little troll?
Keith Ellison, who took his oath of office on a copy of the Quoran tried to hide his “ties†to Islam?
What have you been smoking?
Before Keith Ellison was elected during his campaign to election he never said as a campaign promise he was going to swear on Quoran or directly emphasized his Muslim background. He dodged his background until he got elected. Let us see if he can get re-elected.
February 28th, 2007 at 5:10 pm[...] in Blecch Glenn Beck just keeps getting classier and classier (via ThinkProgress): MSNBC host Keith Olbermann is profiled in this month’s issue of Rolling [...]
February 28th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI sure get tired of rightwingers crying “censorship.” Beck says that since Olbermann predicts Beck will say something stupid that will cost him his job, Olbermann is trying to limit the marketplace of ideas. If Glenn beck uses the “n” word and and gets kicked off his network, it’s not Olbermann’s fault. As for the marketplace of ideas, it’s Republicans at the FCC and their apologists who are trying to allow greater merged corporate control of the media, not Olbermann or his audience. The main marketplace of ideas (mass media) is controlled by a handful of corporations like Viacom whose president endorsed president Bush for the 2004 elections and Clear Channel, which orchestrated the blackout of the Dixie Chicks for criticizing the president. I thought blacklisting artists and actors was one of the hallmarks of McCarthyism.
February 28th, 2007 at 5:27 pmRepy to #164 – Comment by Crystal Glass
News Flash little troll: Article VI, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution states, “…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Of course you and the so-called Christian Right (who aren’t Christians at all) want a religious test, because the provisions of the Constitution, like Congress having the responsibility for declaring War, aren’t of particular interest to you.
I’m glad you folks weren’t responsible for writing the Constitution.
February 28th, 2007 at 5:48 pm[...] I was glad today to read about Olbermann’s recent remarks about Beck at Think Progress, Olbermann, on Beck: A wolf in sheep’s clothing. The very dangerously bigoted guy who is selling [...]
February 28th, 2007 at 6:21 pmIt’s certainly curious to read the various responses from alleged conservatives, keepers of the faith, and Kool Aid drinkers, as they try in vain to defend that which is irrational. Can’t speak for DICK, but it would appear that ole Georgie suffers from a life long terminal case of mauvaise foi (bad faith). And I’m not talking about that popular cult of the dead that he likes to flap his pie hole about when he’s looking for votes or money. Focusing exclusively on what he might become (the hero) in his dad’s eyes is a handy though self-deceptive way of overlooking the truth about what he is (enter choice insult here). Like a ham actor who extravagantly “played at” performing his role, he illustrates the all too common human inclination to embrace an externally determined ideal, an artificial expectation about what he ought to be. But of course, the cost of this sick play-acting is losing what he uniquely was, even before he made the disastrous decision to be a cheerleader.
The ability to accept ourselves for what we are—without exaggeration—is the key, since the chief value of human life is fidelity to our selves, sincerity in the most profound sense, and lets face it – it’s a bitch to pull off. In our relationships with other human beings, what we truly are is all that counts, yet it is precisely here that we most often betray ourselves by trying to be whatever the other person expects us to be, which, if the other person is DICK or some other conservative pinhead, the results are devastating, seeing that in this country, mouth-breathers are given the vote as well. This is odious since it exhibits a total lack of faith in ourselves: to the extent that your typical mouth-breather has total blind faith in Bush or DICK, it reveals their lack of the courage to be themselves. There are, in the end, only two choices—sincerity or self-deception, to be or not to be.
The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind.
February 28th, 2007 at 7:05 pm- Albert Camus
His struggle?
February 28th, 2007 at 7:07 pm148. “I’m republican, and i think people like him AND keith are both full of crap.”
1 out of 2 ain’t bad…or is that 50% = F.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:12 pm153. ” I turn to Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck to hear the truth. They are men inspired by God and decent traditional American values. ”
Sorry to burst your simpleton half-wit bubble, there is no truth in what they say, only fear, ignorance, hate and bigotry, and the men your talking about are the right hand of Satan, not God, you twit. It has nothing to do with values, unless you part of the masses who think “values” equals bigotry.
Oh you think I’m wrong? Lemme spell it out for you intolerance & paranoia of homosexuality, that a “value” to you. The desire to control millions of woman when it comes to their bodies, that’s a “value” right, scum? Your just another psychopath.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:20 pmUSA, sounds like YOU’RE the hateful, name-calling, intolerant one.
Oh, and I won’t even mention that in your zeal to protect women, you have no problem murdering unborn babies.
Yeah…that’s *real* tolerant, isn’t it?
Are you happy your mommy didn’t abort *you*???
February 28th, 2007 at 10:44 pmSounds to me as if Beck — like so many other neoconservatives — is suffering from a classic case of Freudian projection, accusing someone else of certain attitudes which he secretly cherishes himself but is unable to acknowledge.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:41 pmI’ve just arrived back in the States after living in New Zealand for the past five years. Watching this boob Beck reminds me why I left the USA in the first place. Oh well, three months here…enjoy the Mexican food and don’t watch any TV…that ought to make the time spent here a lot more tolerable.
March 1st, 2007 at 12:31 amOlbermoonbat has become quite the howler over on Jeff Goldstein’s site and at Redstate. What you guys see in Keith is beyond my ken, but I think I get it: anger as authenticity. KO’s schtick is to act as partisan hitman while pretending to be disinterested observer.
Too bad he’s not really a news man.
Beating up on Glenn Beck is just his style. Olbermann’s a bully; you can tell by his show: he doesn’t invite anyone on who can take him down.
March 1st, 2007 at 12:41 am“Until the inevitable comes, I`ll continue to tell you what I believe.”
Which of course, makes it right.
Give me a break! Keith Olbermann tells it like it is, and he has the facts to back it up. Right wing a$$ kissers can’t handle that kind of truth in journalism.
March 1st, 2007 at 2:49 amHail to Keith. A bright candle in the darkness that is the 24 hour news.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:20 pm172. You have no clue what is going on do you? Yeah, I hate evil people and bigots, you twit. Once you learn to read, and then learn to comprehend, maybe then you can understand what you read! I know the real scum of this world is you and oh yeah I hate you very much because YOU DESERVE IT!!!
God, I hate conservatives, they are so arrogant but they have no clue what is going on even if you spell it out for them. Useless braindead individuals. And I’m not name calling, boy, it’s the truth and is what you are. There is a big difference between them, simpleton.
March 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 am[...] month, CNN’s Glenn Beck attacked MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, calling him an “intolerant ideologue” whose ideas “smack of the same McCarthyism [Edward R.] Murrow fought so valiantly [...]
March 19th, 2007 at 11:37 amI LOVE YOU. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU CAN READ THIS MESSAGE AMONG THE ENEMIES. BE STRONG. KEEP ON. DO NOT STOP. YOU HAVE A CULTURE AND A FAN BASIS OUT HERE, THAT OUTNUMBERS YOUR OPPOSITION. IT IS ONLY THE WORLD THAT IS AT STAKE. AGAIN, THANK YOU GLEN.
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