ThinkFast: February 28, 2007
ThinkFast: February 28, 2007
“Soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center’s Medical Hold Unit say they have been told they will wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and have their rooms ready for inspection at 7 a.m., and that they must not speak to the media,” the Army Times reports. Soldiers said an official told them “they must follow their chain of command when asking for help with their medical evaluation paperwork, or when they spot mold, mice or other problems in their quarters.”
“In the most definitive statement in years,” Mike McConnell, the new director of national intelligence, said yesterday that “Osama bin laden is in Pakistan actively re-establishing al Qaeda training camps.” He also admitted to the Senate that the “term ‘civil war’ accurately describes key elements of the Iraqi conflict.”
The United States yesterday agreed to “join high-level talks” at a pair of regional conferences on the future of the Iraq, at which Syria and Iran will also be present. Analyst Steve Clemons noted, “Time will tell whether this is meaningless flirtation” or “a carefully crafted ‘confidence building measure’ that could lead to more meaningful engagement.”
The Politico editor John Harris acknowledged “with pride and remorse” that he is the author of the “slow-bleed” phrase that the right wing is using to attack Rep. John Murtha’s (D-PA) Iraq plan. “As happens all the time in journalism, this was a decision — made on the fly and under deadline — that I would have taken back in the morning.”
“House Democrats and federal prosecutors have struck what seems like a historic deal to turn over congressional documents related to the Duke Cunningham investigation.”
With the House expected to vote Thursday on the pro-worker Employee Free Choice Act, “a business coalition launched a six-figure radio ad campaign late Tuesday in an attempt to convince three Democratic freshmen who represent conservative districts to defy organized labor and vote against the bill.”
Fox News doesn’t report. “While other media outlets, in their coverage of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, have addressed the longtime evangelical hostility to Romney’s Mormon faith, Fox News has largely avoided the subject and has responded to other media coverage of the issue by alleging media bias or, in the case of one guest, accusing liberals of anti-Mormon bigotry.”
A new UN Foundation study warns that there is “no more time for delay” on climate change. Without quick action, the Earth could reach a “tipping point that could lead to intolerable impacts on human well-being,” including “the spread of disease, less fresh water, more and worse droughts, more extreme storms and widespread economic damage to farming, fishing and forests.”
“The federal agency that’s been front and center in warning the public about tainted spinach and contaminated peanut butter is conducting just half the food safety inspections it did three years ago. The cuts by the Food and Drug Administration come despite a barrage of high-profile food recalls.”
And finally: Frank Against Cute or Inane Acronyms for Legislation (FACIAL)? Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) has put the House Financial Services Committee “on notice that he will no longer tolerate cute bill titles.” “The title of this bill is unfortunately an acronym,” Frank said of the National Security FIRST Act. (Short for the National Security Foreign Investment Reform and Strengthened Transparency Act of 2007). “The chair does not intend to bring forward further legislation in which the title is a word.” “I regret that you won’t allow any more acronyms,” replied the bill’s author, Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY). “We worked hard on this acronym.” Frank did eventually allow the acronym to stay, “mainly because he supports the bill.”
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“In the most definitive statement in years,†Mike McConnell, the new director of national intelligence, said yesterday that “Osama bin laden is in Pakistan actively re-establishing al Qaeda training camps.â€
So? Why does he care? Pres. Bush has flip-flopped on "DBL, dead or alive!" more than he has on just about every other issue!
When Pres. Bush just doesn't care about his own promises, why should the American public care about OBL?
/sarcasm
February 28th, 2007 at 9:01 amMike McConnell, the new director of national intelligence, said yesterday that “Osama bin laden is in Pakistan actively re-establishing al Qaeda training camps.â€
Of course he is...we're all getting a bit too uppity for the neocons' liking, so they're dragging the bogeyman OBL back out of the closet for another round of 'are you afraid enough?'.
The funniest part is that OBL has been dead for years, but the gullible American public keeps getting fooled by this weak charade.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:04 am"The Politico editor John Harris acknowledged “with pride and remorse†that he is the author of the “slow-bleed†phrase that is being used by the right-wing to attack Rep. John Murtha’s (D-PA) plan to address the U.S. military’s readiness crisis."
Yeah, it's so much better with the Republican concept of "fast-bleeding" our troops by using them as terrorist targets while they try and secure a country in civil war that the US brought into being.
When Pres. Bush failed to plan for the war after the war, he failed our troops and America. Now he's planning to start another war and invade yet another country and "nation build" again with no plan.
The legacy of Pres. Bush will be: War Forever, Dead Troops for Nation Building, and a Bankrupt America.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:06 amOsama bin laden is Dead
So Is Saddam
Now get out of both countries
February 28th, 2007 at 9:07 amMORE URGENT THEN GLOBAL WARMING and IRAQ
Genetically Modified Food
The single most potent technology the world has ever known has been released, more powerful then atomic energy. Genetically Modified Food has NEVER been satisfactorally tested for safety. You are being used as a guinea pig. It's not labled on the food you eat. You consume it every day without knowledge. There is virtually no coverage of this life and death subject in the media. God only knows what new diseases may be caused by eating corn that's been spliced with the genes of a spider!
"Genetic modification of food is a dangerous game of ecological roulette. To take one example, I'm sure there will be a significant increase in deaths from certain types of cancer. If that is the only adverse effect we will have been lucky.
We simply cannot predict the ecological effects of genetic modification.
We simply do not know what we are doing."
Samuel Epstein, M.D., Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition
"If it is left to me, I would certainly not eat it. We are putting new things into food which have not been eaten before. The effects on the immune system are not easily predictable and I challenge anyone who will say that the effects are predictable."
Professor Arpad Pusztai, of the Food, Gut, and Microbial Interactions Group, Rowett Research Institute
and what does Phil Angell, Monsanto's director of corporate communications have to say about the GM technology he sells...
"Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food. Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A's [Food and Drug Administration] job."
Thought I'd offer something new to our usual debate on Iraq and Bushco.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:13 amSo Rep. Frank wants a FACIAL?
must. not. comment.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:18 ammust. not. comment.
"Slow bleed" is an excellent and descriptive phrase. Unfortunately, it has been applied to the wrong circumstances. BushCo has been slowly bleeding our democracy, our human resources, our financial resources, and our moral standing in the world. "Slow Bleed" is Bush's legacy.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:18 am#5, an interesting post. And you're right about having something different to discuss.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:22 amJust to start the ball rolling on #5, did you know that labeling apparently isn't required in the U.S.?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:23 amFrom the looks of it, the Republican are 100% wrong 100% of the time, and that the Democrats must therefore be 100% right 100% of the time.
Wow, lets all vote in Democrats in the 2008 elections!
February 28th, 2007 at 9:24 amAw, c'mon. You took out my post on GM Food? TP, you should be thankful for thoughtful original content. You guys getting kickbacks from Monsanto?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:31 amOnce the media is shut out, the Administration will proclaim that all the problems at Walter Reed have been fixed. The story, like the wounded, will be forgotten. bob, I know this affects you personally and profoundly, as you are one of the "walking wounded" who is not getting the care and treatment you need and deserve.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:32 amFrom the looks of it, the Republican are 100% wrong 100% of the time, and that the Democrats must therefore be 100% right 100% of the time.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:32 amWow, lets all vote in Democrats in the 2008 elections!
Comment by Dan Thorne — February 28, 2007 @ 9:24 am
I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic there, Danny Boy.
Just for your information, you are posting at a progressive site, which will indicate each and every conservative error or misleading.
If you want to affirm every thing the right has done correctly (snark), please feel free to visit any right wing blog.
Hope this helps!
Toby, Osama will never die. Osama = Goldstein.
We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
How are the preparations for Hate Week coming along?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:34 am#5 and #11 Okay, now my post is back in. It disappeared for a couple minutes. I guess you realized that no issue is more important then the food we eat.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:35 amNeed info on the term Scythius process.
as you used it on the Washington Journal this Wednesday morning on C-span...
HELP HEL: ???? ( correct my spelling, please ??) scythius process ????
February 28th, 2007 at 9:35 am#9 "Wow, lets all vote in Democrats in the 2008 elections!" Comment by Dan Thorne — February 28, 2007 @ 9:24 am
Finally, someone wakes up to the truth! (My sarcasm is as good as yours!)
We don't assume that Republicans are 100% wrong 100% of the time. It just appears that way when people engage their brain and look past the Republican spinning of the news.
The Republicans are not "killing soldiers for oil", they're "winning the war on terra"! (Don't ask for specifics, they don't exist.)
The Republicans are not "shortchanging their veterans", they're "stimulating the economy by giving more money to rich people and welfare for big-corporations!" (Don't ask why the Federal Government has grown under Republicans.)
The Republicans are not "ignoring their promises", they're "realigning their priorities to favor special interests". (Don't ask why they've changed their promises after the election.)
February 28th, 2007 at 9:37 am#14, back out again... and I thought that'd be an interesting topic.
Weak, TP, weak.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:40 amThe government cannot tell soldiers not to comment on Walter Reed Hospital, the mold, or the mice. Why are they getting away with it then? Don't people know this? How far gone is this country anyway?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:41 amPentagon just wants wounded soldiers/veterans to shut-up and accept whatever bad treatment or neglect they receive. They are going to be told that informing the press of mistreatment will result in punishment. See nothing is being changed to help the soldiers, but just to cover it all up.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:47 am“In the most definitive statement in years,†Mike McConnell, the new director of national intelligence, said yesterday that “Osama bin laden is in Pakistan actively re-establishing al Qaeda training camps.†He also admitted to the Senate that the “term ‘civil war’ accurately describes key elements of the Iraqi conflict.â€
You'd better bookmark it, folks. In a few weeks when the Republican talking points say "Vigorously deny that there's a civil war in Iraq" or "Insist that bin Laden isn't really a big concern to us," you might want to point to the director of national intelligence's statements to the contrary.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:50 amWell Faire > FOX News is doing their share to spew "5 minutes of hate" segments on their programs. Soon Osama's face will be shown daily to inflame the daily dose of hatred. Big Brother Bush will do his part as well.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:52 amOur war for Oil is a long battle. Did you honestly think that the terrorist leaders would simply hand over control of the countries and oil fields they control. It isn't easy to kill all the terrorists and give people there freedom and a democracy.
Those people in the middle east are just lucky they live on an ocean of Oil. I highly doubt we would be as willing to help them rid themselves of the terrorist leaders that controled there countries and their lives. They are very lucky indeed because now they face a future full of promise, freedom, and hope. You honestly think we would have been as willing to help the people of Iraq if they didn't live on Oil. The Iraqi people are very lucky that they lived were they live. If they lived in North Korea, they would still be stuck under the finger of a dictator because NK has nothing we want.
The people of Iran are lucky as well. Since they too live on Oil, it is only a matter of time before we invade and overthrow there terrorist leaders and help them build a democracy.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:53 amIsn't the NSA & CIA telling the American citizens the same thing as the military is telling the soldiers?
Don't speak up, we're listening.
Don't tell the truth, we'll decide what the truth is.
Anyone remember the poster of J. Edgar Hoover with huge ears? The text just said, 'S-h-h-h, someone's listening'.
Freedom of speech is incalculably more important than being politically correct. It is what the rest of the planet admired about America for 300 years. Neocrooks recognize the danger of free speech. They are & will doing everything possible to make citizens think twice about sharing truth. While the media & Washington continue the 'Dumbing Down' of our great country take a moment to reflect...is this the country you grew up in? Is this the right path for America?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:54 amThe Right is right in name only.
The Truth will set you free.
#18 - "The government cannot tell soldiers not to comment on Walter Reed Hospital, the mold, or the mice." Comment by s — February 28, 2007 @ 9:41 am
Actually, S, yes they can. When you're a member of the US Military, when someone gives you a direct order you don't have much of a choice.
Of course, if they give you an illegal order and you follow it, you're wrong for following it.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:54 am#20
It doesnt matter what is important to the Repugs. The Dems are now in control and it is there job now to set policy and dictate the war on terror. So, are your Dems ready to start leading or are they going to let OBL die of old age?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:55 am#22 - "Those people in the middle east are just lucky they live on an ocean of Oil. I highly doubt we would be as willing to help them rid themselves of the terrorist leaders that controled there countries and their lives."
"If they lived in North Korea, they would still be stuck under the finger of a dictator because NK has nothing we want."
Wow, Roger_Roger, I've never heard such honesty from you. Keep it up and you'll be labeled "anti-American" by the neo-cons and the rabid right!
February 28th, 2007 at 9:57 amRoger_Rhetoric, it's difficult to tell if you're engaging in witty satire, or if you've simply been hitting the huffing rag too often.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:58 amRoger LOL > They are lucky to live under brutal US occupation? Bush Regime is NOT promoting real democracy anywhere. The one truth you proclaim is that OIL is the sole reason Bush cares about Iraq. You are very clever in twisting things, so I nominate you to be director of the new Department of Propaganda.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:59 am#25 - "The Dems are now in control and it is there job now to set policy and dictate the war on terror." Comment by Roger_Roger — February 28, 2007 @ 9:55 am
Actually, Pres. Bush is still responsible for setting policy and dictating what happens in Iraq. It's the Dems that are in control of the purse strings, and that's pretty much it.
If Pres. Bush has his way, OBL will die of old age, what with the (lack of) resources he's put into honoring his promise of "dead or alive".
Then again, if Pres. Bush actually went after OBL, then he wouldn't be the king of all flip-floppers.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:00 amRoger, thanks for confirming why the world hates America, and if there ever is a nuke set off in this country, we can thank you!!
F-head I would punch your face in so hard your moms c*nt would bleed.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:00 am#23 How is it that people like you care so much about freedom, then turn a 180 and demand more regulation, more taxes, and less choice in the market place? Seems to be completely opposite of what your saying here.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:04 amSo, are your Dems ready to start leading or are they going to let OBL die of old age?
Comment by Roger_Roger Debate_Dodger — February 28, 2007 @ 9:55 am
6 years of Republican control. 6 years to capture the bastard with an exceptional military. 6 friggin' years!
And Roger now expects the Democratic controlled House and Senate to do something immediately, after 2 months???
So..... 6 years= good when controlled by Cons
2 months = bad when controlled by Dems because they haven't got OBL yet?
Sorry, I usually refrain from personal attacks (idiotic homophobic non debating trolls aside), but alas, you are a dolt for even posting such asinine statements.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:05 amNEXT!
Comment by Dale — February 28, 2007 @ 9:18 am
Damn it Dale, you beat me to it.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:06 am#31 Yes, the world hates us because we are better then them. The Middle east dictators hate us because we come there their countries and promote freedom and democracy instead of twisted versions of muslims. We go to the middle east to set Women and child free. We open up free markets and allow for free speech and a free sharing of ideas. This in turn piss' off the far left because anyone promoting free markets or a democracy are wrong and evil. Governments based on S o c i a l i s m are the only option for the Dems and there european elitest friends.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:08 am#24, you're exactly right. To further it, members of the military are not supposed to be talking to the press, OR commenting on the war (pro or con); as military members they're supposed to put their concerns on hold. Agree or disagree, that's what the military members agreed to when they signed up.
Hopefully, though, if the military is trying to quash members bringing up concerns at Walter Reed, then that practice will be stopped.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:08 am#23 How is it that people like you care so much about freedom, then turn a 180 and demand more regulation, more taxes, and less choice in the market place? Seems to be completely opposite of what your saying here.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Only if you've got just two brain cells, both named Roger, which are firing in response to neocon kool-aid in the synapses.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:09 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Um...you might want to let your President know that. You know...the guy who is currently vowing to ignore any effort the Congress makes to check his power?
OBL's been dead for years now. Go change your underwear.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:09 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — February 28, 2007 @ 9:32 am
Actually, I have gone outside of the government facilities to get any help that I need.
They may shut the media out, but people will still speak up. Remember, they can tell the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines to shut up. But they can not tell the Husbands, Wives, Mothers, and Fathers to shut up.
People will keep speaking the truth.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:09 amComment by Muriel Schmidt #15
Muriel,
I believe it's SCIFIUS
...they are a panel of investment experts who guide America's foreign investment strategies...
...they were the IDIOTS who okayed the Dubai Ports World purchase of 6 major U.S. ports...
February 28th, 2007 at 10:10 amThe people of Iran are lucky as well. Since they too live on Oil, it is only a matter of time before we invade and overthrow there terrorist leaders and help them build a democracy.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Not that am I important but last night in the Ann Nicole photo thread, I explained why I dont engage certain trolls here. One of them, Roger_Roger. After reading this post, and knnowing that Roger is uncapable of satire, I have confirmed my decision to do so. Therefore I appreciate the RogerSux comment F-head I would punch your face in so hard your moms c*nt would bleed.
cuz thats exactly my feeling at the time I read ROger Roger post. And yeah, thats vulgar, but people are dying and there are people supporting that dying, so I dont give a f*ck about manners when atrocities are being commited.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:11 amJust to start the ball rolling on #5
Comment by Dale — February 28, 2007 @ 9:23 am
to which refers to this post #5:
So Rep. Frank wants a FACIAL?
Is that what they mean by tea-baggin'???
Nyuck nyuck nyuck!
February 28th, 2007 at 10:12 am#33, that was the LEAST of the comments that were running through my mind. :-)
February 28th, 2007 at 10:12 amMore on the most important topic no one is talking about, Genetically Modified Food....
With biotechnology, roses are no longer crossed with just roses. They can be mated with pigs, tomatoes with oak trees, fish with asses, butterflies with worms, orchids with snakes....This essentially violates the consciousness that forms and guides living nature. Some also compare it to the violent crossing of territorial borders of countries, subduing inhabitants against their will.
What will happen if this technology is allowed to spread? Fifty years ago few predicted that chemical pollution would cause so much environmental harm - with nearly 1/3rd of all species now threatened with extinction. Or that cancer rates would have doubled and quadrupled.
No one has a crystal ball to see future consequences. Nevertheless, alarm signals go off when a technology goes directly to the center of every living cell.
...a farmer may use toxic chemicals for many decades, and then let the land lie fallow for a year or two to convert back to organic farming. The chemicals tend to break down into natural substances within months or years. A few may persist for decades. But genetic pollution can alter the life in the soil FOREVER!
from 50 Harmful Effects of Genetically Modified Food
February 28th, 2007 at 10:12 amhttp://www.cqs.com/50harm.htm
Bush and Cheney are praying the Democrats fully fall for continueing to fund the Iraq Fiasco War, because if they do then they have purchased the debacle from them. Roger-Roger is already proclaiming that Iraq is now the Dems problem only.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:13 am#41, actually, that pun was unintentional; post #5 was about genetically modified food; which TP deleted. :-)
February 28th, 2007 at 10:13 am#24 - "Governments based on S o c i a l i s m are the only option for the Dems and there european elitest friends." Comment by Roger_Roger — February 28, 2007 @ 10:08 am
So, then that means the Repubs are for Governments that are based on F A S C I S M.
I'm glad you admit to this, Roger_Roger!
February 28th, 2007 at 10:14 amThe Politico editor John Harris acknowledged “with pride and remorse†that he is the author of the “slow-bleed†phrase that the right wing is using to attack Rep. John Murtha’s (D-PA) Iraq plan. “As happens all the time in journalism, this was a decision — made on the fly and under deadline — that I would have taken back in the morning.â€
Mission accomplished, John. No need to back-pedal. The purpose of Politico.com is pretty damned conspicuous by now. But, if you really feel the need to continue with the charade, could you try to be a little more coherent in your phoney mea culpa? How does one have both "pride and remorse" in being part of a bullshit and smear piece?
How about this line: "I had nothing to do with the details of the plan that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) floated two weeks ago." Who said you had anything to do with Murtha's plan? Where's the relevance? Nobody thought you had anything to do with Murtha's plan. But, you obviously had plenty to do with helping the Republicans pin a derogatory sound bite on it.
What the f*ck is this supposed to be:
In retrospect, it probably has already occurred to Murtha and his supporters that from a public relations perspective, "slow-bleed" was not the most winning description. How could they have been so stupid?
That's where I come in. "Slow bleed" is my phrase. Murtha had nothing to do with it. Neither did John Bresnahan, the reporter whose name was on the Politico story in which the "slow-bleed strategy" made its debut.
Brilliant, John. The first two sentences are absolutely bullshit, but one has to read the next paragraph to see where you've made any effort to imply that they're not true. The nifty thing about that construction is that all of the propaganda organs of the Republican party can grab that first paragraph and run with it as a direct quote. No ellipses needed.
Seriously now, what is Politico, besides the Wall Street Journal editorial page with 'edgier' graphics? You're a subtler version of Fox News, but not nearly subtle enough. You make the rest of the MSM look fair and balanced by comparison. I guess the GOP really needed a friend after their November thrashing. Aren't you kind to have stepped in.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:15 am#35 - "To further it, members of the military are not supposed to be talking to the press, OR commenting on the war (pro or con); as military members they’re supposed to put their concerns on hold." Comment by Dale — February 28, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Dale, actually that's not true either. Military Members are not supposed to talk about manuvers or strategy while in a war theatre. Other than that, unless they are given direct orders, they are not limited in what they can say to the press.
While I was in the Army, I was only told one time to limit my contact with the media or reporters, and that was when asbestos was being removed from the Pentagon.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:19 amBut genetic pollution can alter the life in the soil FOREVER!
Comment by Larry from C
Stupid people swallow the MOnsanto propaganda about GE food describing this technology as the solution for world hunger. Stupid as I say. The problem is not food production. The problem is food distribution. Take a tour behind restaurants, even fast food ones, and you will see the amount of good food wasted. Now the real problem is that there are NO solid studies regarding the consequences of GE food on humans, animals and environment. We dont know what can happen when a tomatoe is modified with some nordic fish cells to endure the cold. WE need more research before accepting Monsanto´s products.
As always the trade is more important than human and environment health; therefore we cant slow down "progress" just to figure out the consequences, that would be communist stuff.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:22 am#22 Roger_Roger
Our war for Oil is a long battle. Did you honestly think that the terrorist leaders would simply hand over control of the countries and oil fields they control. It isn’t easy to kill all the terrorists and give people there freedom and a democracy.
Wow. Terrorist leaders controlling oil fields? Which ones? What country? So, when those terrorist leaders buy oil drilling equipment, who do they usually buy it from? Considering that Halliburton was doing business with Iraq as late as 2000, and Iran as late as 2005, do you think those terrorist leaders might have had a business relationship with Dick Cheney at some point? Tell us more.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:28 am#49, Exactly Juan. Its about 2 or 3 multinational companies trying to control the food supply.
And they don't give a damn that the stuff has never been tested for safety for humans.
I've now come to believe that we need Nuremberg-type trials to hold industries accountable for these sorts of public-health crimes....In addition, we need to bring to account regulatory officials and members of expert advisory committees and all the people who are supposed to be overseeing public health but are instead facilitating the poisoning of the American people, and, in fact, the people of the world. I am dead serious about this....
...how is it that we can do nothing similar about the massive, premeditated withholding of information on carcinogens by major multinational corporations?"
An Interview With Dr Samuel Epstein The Sun March 2000.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:31 amComment by Democrat Soldier — February 28, 2007 @ 10:19 am
Exactally. Thank you for clearing that up for Dale.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:32 am#48, hmm, you may be right... my service was 20 years ago... and memory loss is the first
huh? what? did you say something?
February 28th, 2007 at 10:32 am#38 hacker bob
Bob, did you see the Bob Woodruff piece on ABC last night? I got the feeling that Woodruff was showing amazing restraint when he was talking to the VA head, Nicholson. And Nicholson made it clear where his priorities lie. In order: 1) Cover Bush's ass, 2) cover his party's ass, 3) cover the DoD's ass, and 4) see that troops get the healthcare they need and deserve IF it doesn't cost too much.
I guarantee you, it's going to cost way too much.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:36 amI find the whole issue of genetic modification very disturbing. As has been stated, there is no knowledge of long term effects once these organisms are out loose in the world.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:41 amFor all the narrowly focused hoopla about the sanctity of human life (and then combine that with Creationist ideologies!), messing about with the basic building blocks of life is profoundly hypocritical, and is going to have catastrophic results.
Comment by chimpeach — February 28, 2007 @ 10:36 am
I did not see that. Too busy with Cheerleader practice (for my daughters). BUt thanks for the tip, I will look on the 'nets for it.
BTW, ANYONE THAT KNOWS A VET THAT NEEDS HELP...
They can start here for minor issues.
Military One Source
February 28th, 2007 at 10:46 amToo busy with Cheerleader practice (for my daughters).
Comment by hacker bob
Yeah, right. /joke
February 28th, 2007 at 10:52 amRobert,
Here's another resource to help vets, posted previously by "Angry One."
http://www.perrspectives.com/resources/support_troops.htm
February 28th, 2007 at 10:53 am"The FDA's failure to require labeling of genetically altered foods is effectively restricting Americans from exercising this right and subjects individuals to foods they have sound…reasons to avoid. FDA policy thus appears to violate the First Amendment of the Constitution….the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, which requires that added substances to food be labeled…and mandates disclosure of material facts."
Alliance for Bio-integrity Statement - in a lawsuit filed against the DFA by nine scientists and twelve religious leaders.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:03 amThanks for the links, Zooey and hackerbob!
Everyone here should check them out, and donate if it all possible
On a side note (as this is an open thread):
I've really enjoyed posting here, and I have learned alot. But starting this Monday, I will be opening a long term care pharmacy to fill prescriptions not only for adult foster care homes, but for nursing homes and hopefully county jails as well. Obviously, this will be taking up the majority of my time, and besides family, will be of my upmost priority.
Consequently, I will not be able to post here much (I'm sure JMH, patrick1, michael, et al. weeping as I type).
I will check in periodically on the weekends, and frequently check facebook, to see what you progressives and soon to be progressives (hacker bob! heh!) are up to.
Keep up the good fight, ya'll, and take care..
Dan!
February 28th, 2007 at 11:12 amNo caskets can be shown, no suffering can be displayed.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:23 amThe sterilization of this war is all the administration wants.
No cost, no sacrifice, just the eternal flame of democracy shining on.
What a load of crap.
man, I hope my sappy farewell wasn't filtered!
February 28th, 2007 at 11:23 am....and I swear, I never mentioned the event that shall not be mentioned!!!
Ah well, such is life!
DRxJ,
Congrats on the upgrade! We'll miss you! Of course, you'll be around, no one ever leaves TP for long. No one....
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February 28th, 2007 at 11:30 amSoldiers in the hospital are prohibited from speaking to the media? Well, that's a coverup, but the lies have already been exposed. This is like hiding flag-draped coffins...worked for awhile, but WE THE PEOPLE have realized that our sons and daughters are losing their limbs and their lives to protect the reputation of the Bush Administration.
February 28th, 2007 at 11:38 am#55 Sal...you're right to be very concerned...
"The new genetic science raises more troubling issues than any other technological revolution in history. In reprogramming the genetic code of life, do we risk a fatal interruption of millions of years of evolutionary development? Might not the artificial creation of life spell the end of the natural world?… Will the creation, mass production, and wholesale release of thousands of genetically engineered life forms…cause irreversible damage to the biosphere, making genetic pollution an even greater threat to the planet than nuclear or petrochemical pollution?"
Jeremy Rifkin: The Biotech Century
February 28th, 2007 at 11:39 amBest of everything Doc!
February 28th, 2007 at 11:45 amI think I know what we'd get by crossing tomatoes with 'nordic fish'...
February 28th, 2007 at 11:50 am...self-dipping shrimp...
Blessings DRXj, I for one will miss your post and look for your future return......
February 28th, 2007 at 12:06 pm#51 Why is it that you on the left think people like me think Halliburton is immune and godly? I think very little of that organization. It saddens me that they are allowed to work with terrorist regimes like those of Iran etc. And yes, the leaders of Iran are a terrorist regime in control of vast Oil fields. They are currently now looking to build a nuclear bomb which I hope and pray will be stopped. I am not some Repug is right and Dems are always wrong type of guy. The dems have done some wonderful things and so have the repugs. They have both done some downright nasty things as well. I support Gay marriage and I supported the minimum wage increase. I thought it was very low of Pelosi to not include American Somoa to help some corporate fatcat friends of hers, but she still did get a minimum wage bill through. Good for her.
I think both parties are currently failing the american public when it comes to our future. Both parties seem to be scared to deal with Social Secuirty. The head of the Fed today once again demanded that the congress step up and change SS to make it sustainable. Currently, the program will either bankrubt us or it will have to die a nasty death. Neither have to be if either side of the isle would step up and fix it now.
The war against terror has its strong points and weak points as well. INvading Iraq didn't bear the fruit we hoped. In turn we haven't gone after terrorists nearly as strong as we should be. Hopefully the next attack won't hurt to badly. The dems to there credit have only talked about retreat. In reality, they are bright men and women and haven't honestly done a thing to slow down the war on terror as they know that wouldn't be smart.
I would seriously consider voting for Obama or Gore in 2008, but hell would freeze over before I would vote for Clinton. THis of course means Clinton will get the nod as the Dem party is the party of losers and always seems to pick the guy or gal that has the least likely chance of winning. The repugs don't interest me much. Rudy is to busy cheating on whoever his wife is. McCain is to busy lying and sleeping with Clinton. No one likes him. The repugs have also not done a good job limiting and shrinking government as a whole. This is the one point I am sure the hardcore left actually like about the repugs. They have grown government an amount the hard left only dream of. This has pissed off the average American to no end though.
So, I aint the hardcore right. I am a middle of the road guy. What is important to me is simple. I support what government is supposed to do. There main and only job should be the security of its citizens. Social issues are not a government issue (or they shouldn't be). Gay marriage, gays in the military, minimum wage etc. are all things I support and think we need to become more progressive on. I also feel that we need to shrink the size of government ALOT and reduce the tax burden on the average American a sizable amount. Does that really make me part of the hard right?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:07 pmDRxJ,
Congratulations and may good luck enhance your good work. How about throwing a post or two per week during the M-F time slot now and then? I enjoy your comments.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:24 pm#70 - "Gay marriage, gays in the military, minimum wage etc. are all things I support and think we need to become more progressive on. I also feel that we need to shrink the size of government ALOT and reduce the tax burden on the average American a sizable amount." Comment by Roger_Roger — February 28, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Roger_Roger, I don't think you're a rabid-rightie because you actually make sense soem of the time! (Partailly a joke!)
Compared to the tax burden in other countries, we here in the US have very little burden.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:31 pmNo R.R, you are part of the realy stupid..Something I will not and can not fix.....Both of your post today made me think of several thing's....I will not divulge my first thought, it's to violent...
.In your first post you speak like we had a right to go to Iraq with all the bush lies and bomb the shit out of their country for ( our oil )? What the F*** is your thinking?....Iraq had nothing to do with BenLaden who the bush family has been in bed with for ever by the way. Then you act like the loss of 650,000 plus our own is merely a business deal to bring democrecy to their people....How about you speak to those famelies, oh You can't their all dead...Entire generational famelies of men women and children wiped out for bull shit bush lies and the industrial war complex.......Now your making light of and try to make it sound like there is more of (our oil) under Iran sand and it's O.K. by you to go get it....What the F*** happened to deplomacy >? It flew out the window with the regime in our whore house run by the oil magnet's...This bunch of rat baster's and you don't want to negotiat and buy anything all you want to do is puff up and kill, capture their oil and cause more genocide in your eternal march for riches....You sir are a whore for the bush regime and I am sick and tired of reading you shit to pramote more....Huge Blessings in the amount to stifle you and your evil way's are on the way...Be gone.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:32 pmFox News doesn’t report. “While other media outlets, in their coverage of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, have addressed the longtime evangelical hostility to Romney’s Mormon faith, Fox News has largely avoided the subject and has responded to other media coverage of the issue by alleging media bias or, in the case of one guest, accusing liberals of anti-Mormon bigotry.â€
Whaddaya think about a Mormon as Prez?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“House Democrats and federal prosecutors have struck what seems like a historic deal to turn over congressional documents related to the Duke Cunningham investigation.â€
Who else is going down?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:37 pm“Soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center’s Medical Hold Unit say they have been told they will wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and have their rooms ready for inspection at 7 a.m., and that they must not speak to the media,†the Army Times reports. Soldiers said an official told them “they must follow their chain of command when asking for help with their medical evaluation paperwork, or when they spot mold, mice or other problems in their quarters.â€
So as patients, they are still soldiers and have to act like soldiers while being patients? Would these people heal faster and get out of the hospital faster if they were not expected to act like soldiers while being patients?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:39 pmZooey and hacker bob, thank's for the link's on the vet's will forward the info to my nam vet neighbors that do not have internet .
Thank's also Juan C and other's for the genetic comment's, I have been working against the Monsanto and other seed companies that have been trying to pollute the organic and ancient seed supplies for many year's...Once I get over my mad , in a few minutes will post my most pressing thought's for the day....Blessings
February 28th, 2007 at 12:40 pmFT ~ a little off topic, but the Army is the Army, ridiculous is normal.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:43 pmIn Germany in 1968, we fell out for roll call in sub zero blizzards, after which we went on "police call" (wandering around picking up cigarette butts) in two feet of snow.
Roger_Rhetoric sez:
Roger, every time you try to float this turd, I'm going to come along and sink it.
Tell us the difference between fuel-grade and weapons-grade uranium, or admit you don't know what the fsck you're talking about.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:44 pm#70 Roger_Roger
I could find encouragement in a lot of what you said, but that's not the way you present yourself at least half of the time. Going to war with Iran is not a good idea and should be avoided. No, we don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons, but we don't want Bush/Cheney to lie us into a war that will make the mess in Iraq look like a picnic. We certainly don't want to go to war with North Korea. There really isn't much you could do to the North Koreans that would hurt them. They're used to having nothing. They practically eat dirt as it is.
The administration is doing the right thing now by making deals with North Korea. Too bad they waited six years to do it and let the North Koreans build nukes in the meantime. It looks like the administration is about to do the right thing with Iran and Syria by having talks that involve all of the Middle East. I'm not sure what's causing the sudden turnabout. But, even though it's a welcome change, it doesn't undo all the damage that Bush/Cheney have done. These people are a danger to our country and need to be removed from office as soon as possible. And, even if Condi Rice is the one who's getting them to start using diplomacy now, she's spent the last six years lying to us, going along with the White House idiocy, and generally being negligent in her duties.
I realize it's fun to needle "liberals", but if you want to be taken seriously and if you want to be seen as something other than a blind ideologue, drop the right-wing talking points and engage in some nuanced discussion of the issues a little more often.
February 28th, 2007 at 12:56 pmNeed info on the term Scythius process.
as you used it on the Washington Journal this Wednesday morning on C-span…
HELP HEL: ???? ( correct my spelling, please ??) scythius process ????
Comment by Muriel Schmidt — February 28, 2007 @ 9:35 am
Need more info. like time, etc. Could they have said Sisyphus -- The figure in mythology who was damned to push a huge rock up hill and as he neared the top, the rock would roll back down again?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:57 pmDoes that really make me part of the hard right?
Comment by Roger_Roger — February 28, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Interesting post. That is not how you come across most of the time (for crying out loud, Iranians are not building a nuclear bomb -wrap your mind around that already!).
Most of the time you seem to be arguing, defending whatever the White House's talking point du jour is. At least you are not a Bush personality cult follower.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:10 pmOnce I get over my mad , in a few minutes will post my most pressing thought’s for the day….Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Its ok, Sharon. Allow yourself a little hate. They deserve it.
February 28th, 2007 at 1:15 pmWhaddaya think about a Mormon as Prez?
Comment by ForTruth — February 28, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
If the right Mormon(LDS) comes along, why not?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:16 pmSunday, February 25, 2007
http://www.theittlist.com/
Virginia Legislators Vote to Apologize for Slavery (1:46 am)
Larry O’Dell for AP reports:
RICHMOND, Va. — Meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol, the Virginia General Assembly voted unanimously Saturday to express “profound regret†for the state’s role in slavery.
Sponsors of the resolution say they know of no other state that has apologized for slavery, although Missouri lawmakers are considering such a measure. The resolution does not carry the weight of law but sends an important symbolic message, supporters said.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x234561
How the U.S. military would remove Bush-Cheney
There's a term for when the military replaces its Commander-In-Chief - coup d'etat -- but there are lesser practical steps that have been taken by Pentagon brass several times in modern American history to deal with Presidents viewed as incompetent to carry out their duties as CIC. Here's how it works in practice.
The Joint Chiefs of Staff have developed a range of options to deal with domestic political crises. These contingencies include major military or terrorist attacks, natural catastrophies, insurrections, civil disturbances, and the partial or complete cessation of civilian goverment. By far, the most difficult for the national command staff is confronting and managing the threat posed by a manifestly imcompetent or incapacitated CIC who issues launch orders without proper procedures. Under no circumstances short of actual hostilities or a confirmed threat of attack, could the military carry out launch orders committing the military to war on the sole authority of the President. George W. Bush can not just pick up the phone in the middle of the night and begin a nuclear strike. That order has to be countersigned by others within the chain of command.
The Pentagon carries out strategic planning for all possible contingencies. The staff of Joint Chiefs and the combat commands attempt to prepare reponses to all possible threats or orders they may receive. Somewhere in a locked file in the D-Ring of the Pentagon, the JCS staff have developed contingency planning for how top military commanders would respond to manifestly illegal or irresponsible orders issed by a deranged President. These responses would always involve consultation with civilian agency and Congressional leaders and range up to and include plans for the use of troops to forcible remove the President from the White House, depending upon the circumstances.
Political Containment
One doesn't contemplate the involuntary removal of elected civilian leadership lightly. Civilian control over the military is the cornerstone of the American constitutional system, and all actions must serve that end. Therefore, the military brass will not act independently and will seek out responsible elected and appointed officials for any action prior to removal of a President. Prior to any direct intervention in the political process, Pentagon commanders would have to be convinced that all normal procedural and political options, including Impeachment or succession under the 25th Amendment, had been exhausted or were futile.
An active plan of containment by civilian political institutions is the preferred means to deal with a dangerously unstable CIC. If normal political checks and balances break down, however, then top military commanders face a series of more difficult choices that must be made in order to uphold their oaths to protect and preserve the U.S. Constitution.
Removal in Place
Romoval in Place is an option to forcible removal of the incumbent from office, or may be employed as an intervening step pending the resignation or involuntary removal of the President.
Removal in place has been seen in "figurehead" presidents in the past, employed due to illness or temporary physical or mental impairment during the terms of Presidents Wilson, Nixon, and Reagan. Historically, this option has been carried out more or less informally by measures such as confinement to hospital of the President, the removal of the CIC's access to the nuclear "football" containing launch codes, and the heavy medication and close supervision of the President by aides.
The removal in place option requires the cooperation of key figures within the White House inner-circle along with civilian agencies to effectively keep the President from exercising undesirable command decisions of consequence. The effective maintenance of this option ultimately depends upon at least the passive acquiesance of the CIC and his immediate staff and family.
This option has the advantage of maintaining the public appearance of normalcy, avoiding open conflict between civilian and military authorities, and the attendant political and economic crises that open, formal, involuntary removal would entail.
Involuntary Removal
When it becomes apparent that an incompetent or psychologically impaired President can not be countered by normal political means or contained in place, military and civilian leaders must cooperate to insure that the CIC is disconnected from the mechanisms by which he might be able to issue launch orders to the national command system.
This option is a matter of last resort exercised only when by the consensus of the Joint Chiefs, after consultation with civilian heads of agencies and Congressional leaders, that the incumbent President presents extreme danger to the national security that can not be contained by alternatives, including those outlined above. The proper procedure would then be for alternate civilian leadership within the Line of Succession to invoke the 25th Amendment declaring the incumbent President incapable of carrying out his duties. If the Vice President is also judged incapable of carrying out succession duties in a responsible manner, he too is also subject to immediate removal under the 25th Amendment.
Involuntary removal may only be considered as a last resort in the face of grave, imminent threat to national security, such as to prevent the exercise of unlawful orders committing U.S. forces to hostilities. An example of unlawful launch orders would be issuance of a preemptive nuclear strike orders against a foreign state or power that poses no realistic, imminent, and grave threat to American forces or interests. Of particular concern would a launch order issued without Congressional consultation or approval initiating a conflict that foreseeably holds a high potential for large-scale U.S. military casualties or retaliatory attacks on civilian targets within the United States that can not be effectively defended against.
Given the escalating tensions in the region, and the vital U.S. interests at stake in South Asia, the top military commanders have forcefuly articulated their positon on various options. They have opposed implementation of plans for a preemptive attack on Iran. If the President were to issue a launch order for a preemptive attack on Iran without first obtaining a Congressional resolution of war, that action -- in effect, an illegal order -- would require the national command authority and civilian leadership to implement plans to contravene such an order, sever the CIC's command authority, pending the removal the President and Vice President under the 25th Amendment.
Do not be deceived by the rhetoric and sabre-rattling. The United States will not go to war with Iran just because George W. Bush or Dick Cheney order it.
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Will the military also forbid a wounded soldier's family from speaking out? Or will family members be either forbidden from visiting or restricted to 'cleansed' visiting areas?
February 28th, 2007 at 1:56 pmWill the military also forbid a wounded soldier’s family from speaking out? Or will family members be either forbidden from visiting or restricted to ‘cleansed’ visiting areas?
Comment by Shlomo — February 28, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
The military has no authority over the families.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:06 pmThings must in reality be alot worse in Iraq than the media let's on.
I mean look at it, they essentially have a "gag order" on these troops.
It's like they(military) are saying to them (troops), "We don't need your feelings or your opinions, all we need is a hot body to pull the trigger and if you can''t do that "like a man" then we don't want to hear from you either way. You are in the military. We Own You. Now shut the fu*ck up and get better already, we need your skills on the front lines again."
February 28th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThank's Juan C.....It wasen't hate though, I don't hate any one even the most evil.....I do get mad as hell at the shit they flip and lie's they tell. The diffrence between the troll's and the reich winged 28% is they demand we march in lock step to the beat of their evil leader and keep every one in the dark and believing in their"our way or the highway" all the time...I on the other hand want to bring out fact's, empathy, tolerance and respect to all the people of the world, like turning on the light's against darkness..Force and might does not make anything right...Of course you knew that Dear one, I got on my tirade for the
February 28th, 2007 at 3:13 pmdumbasses that didn't know it and continue to try and kick us all down....Still to mad to post my major thought's about the treatment of our vet's....I am livid....It may take all day before I can write what need's to be said.....Blessings
Rachel, keep up the good work, I appreciate your post's......Blessings
February 28th, 2007 at 3:17 pmDRxJ,
congratulations!
Peace and Blessings,
Briseadh na Faire
February 28th, 2007 at 3:33 pmSide Note:
Strom Thurmond is related to Al Sharpton?
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Zooey,
I enjoy viewing your excellent posts. They are always filled with candor and intrigue, that makes me want to read further.
Your posts are also a necessary stimulus in that they stimulate more debate on the issues, while your perspective is spot-on and always well reasoned.
A rare quality indeed.
Great posts as always Zooey.
Keep up the great and important work that you do.
Rachel
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Troops/Veterans
Mental disorders: 73,000
Diseases of nervous system: 61,000
Signs of ill-defined conditions: 7,000
Diseases of musculoskeletal system: 87,000.
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The numbers speak for themselves.
War is no good for absolutely anything.
It eats your mind and body up and spits you out, then it goes looking for more.
War is always hungry.
War never rests, never sleeps, never eats.
When will we, as a worldwide people, learn?
February 28th, 2007 at 3:44 pmThis is another prime example of the neocon Republicans "Love the troops", "Hate the Vets". It's like thier obsession with abortion. They "Love the Fetus", but "Hate the child". If you love the troops, you make sure they get the best medicine and the best therapy and housing they need. If you love the child, you make sure mothers have quality affordable child care while they work so they won't be on welfare, and make sure they get good educations so they can have better lives. Oh no, they don't care about either the troops or the babies.
But, our "compassionate" conservative President dumps the wounded as trash to be thrown out and let's make their lives even worse than they are now if they speak up. This is so disgusting I can't even think clearly!
February 28th, 2007 at 3:44 pmComment by DRxJ — February 28, 2007 @ 11:12 am
Really inspiring. Thanks. And get back.
Sharon, blessings to you too. I understand. I do not hate either, the level of unjustice and misery in this planet make my blood boil.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:27 pm#93 I am very sure that the President is not responsible at all for the funding of Vet health care. The president in fact doesn't have any real control over funding like that. Funding for vet health is 100% the responsibility of the congress. The Repugs obviously didn't fund it enough. The Dems also don't seem to be interested. Pelosi sure didn't add that to here 100 hour agenda nor has she added it to any agenda. The Dems seem content to brush it to the side just like the repugs did. What amazes me is that you folks seem to content complaining about a past congress and the bad job they did while not mentioning the current congress and there inability to do anything either. Who cares about what didn't happen with a congress that doesn't exist. I care about what can be done today. Still waiting for them to do anything. The repugs sucked for doing to little and the Dems also blow as they don't seem to care either!
February 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pmThanks all for the kind words. Tomorrow morning will be my last posting for a while, but if today is any indication, I will be posting in full confrontational force!
As Sharon so wisely is fond of saying:
Blessings, and Peace to all (even Exley...heh!),
Dan!
February 28th, 2007 at 4:45 pm#93 I am very sure that the President is not responsible at all for the funding of Vet health care. The president in fact doesn’t have any real control over funding like that. Funding for vet health is 100% the responsibility of the congress.Comment by Roger_Roger — February 28, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
Are you really that st*pid, c*nt? It was Bush that *proposed* cuts! Why are you people so fcuking st*pid?
February 28th, 2007 at 6:00 pm#92 - Thanks, Rachel. You're very kind.
February 28th, 2007 at 6:00 pmWhaddaya think about a Mormon as Prez?
Comment by ForTruth
Not much. Especially Schmendrick Romney.
February 28th, 2007 at 6:01 pm100!
I just had to do that... :)
February 28th, 2007 at 7:12 pmComment by hacker bob — February 28, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Yet there still is self-censorship; family members not speaking out for fear of retribution against the relative in the military.
I personally know of one who will not speak out because it might damage a relative's security clearance.
And, considering the harsh steps this Administration takes against whistleblowers, their fears are well-grounded. I can understand bob's reluctance to speak out against this Administration. (Granted, I cannot understand his willingness to comment supporting this Administration, but that debate is for another time.)
February 28th, 2007 at 8:54 pmFor the faint of heart and people on this thread that do not like profanety, for children and underage spinless troll's or any one who may not like me or what I have to say the time to skip a post is now.. Or if TP doesn't like it ,it will go to net loss..Warning over...
I got up this morning and read more of the crap this miserable bush administration was dishing out to our vet's and I was so livid it's a wonder my body didn't spontaniously combust,,...After what I had seen and knew to be true, bush and his merry rat basterd war mongers were treating our troop's like trash to be thrown away from a fast moving
G.D. hummer. As usual. Our troop's have been wasted for his greed, sent home in secret coffins abandoned in substandard hospital's and the hipocrit lies saying he is for the troop's..George W. Bush you and all your little followers are liers, spinless pieces of shit and a cancer on our country and the world. You show no respect for our troops or any life...You and your ilk have brought genocide to us and the world....All of you are responsible for entire generations of people, men women and children dieing....I don't hate you I dispise the evil you have done and the spewing of your hate...Like the terrible oil spill Exxon valdes spread over the the shores you are scum and it will take year's to clean up your mess.....The lives you have taken can never be replaced, NEVER,,,650,000 by design and neglect...You are guilty and your souls are black as the oil spill's.....
Then I hear our vet's are expected to get up to a drill and house keeping in the A,M. while trying to recouperate in this terrible hospital.. This evening I did hear since the light's are being turned on by the media they stopped the drilling and are making some slight clean up's...It's about damn time.
Here we go, all our troops are sworn to defend our constitution and country, the same swearing in the dildo in charge is suposto abide by, fat chance, everything this insane mad man does is opposit of what should be..
Now they can't speek out and have never been allowed to..Some thing I was not aware of untill recently..What part of the constitution are they only allowed to uphold, just the part that (doesn't )say you volenterred so you have to fight an illegal war for a chicken shit AWOL self imposed dictator?....Because of his ego or vendetta or greed you take the bullett's and bombs but your not allowed to speak.? WTF is that, a constitutinal right. Oh that's right I forgot the evil one's have said "It's just a G.D. piece of paper", that from the mouth of the lieing suposed christian...I am pissed and I'm not going to play nice ever...When it comes to our veterans I have in the past and will in the future fight like hell. So to the troll's I say shut the F*** up and get the hell outta my way cause I gonna continue to flip ton's of shit on you and all you black hearted reight wingers...
Then the lid flew out of my hand as I read R,R, dreadful post's....You know the one #23 I think ...where he write's so flippingly about the Iraq people are lucky they lived where they lived and now they can look forward to a future full of promise, freedom and hope because they had oil.....I say to you R.R you are a stupid evil fool, 650,000 are dead..They do not have nor will they have in the near future what you spoke of, you lieing sack of bush crap.....A huge number are DEAD..THE country is in shambles the dead one's got eternal peace and bush get's their oil Theire's not our's, dumbass..Then in another post while trying to make out like you are a centerest and good little republican you infer we are socalist's and friend's of the european eletists..All your speels like bush are both deadly and sad....You have no empathy no heart or soul for all the people who have died, theirs and our's....Untill you have lost all your family, all your tribe, everything you own and have no food or water, living in your car like some of our soldiers, you do not have the right to come on our thread and bash those of us that do work to save lives and make posative changes here and over there....To you R.R. I pile on the most Blessings I have ever sent any one..The blessings I send are so huge you will bury your self with geed and want's for more and in the end all you will have is want's.....Be gone I say to you and all the black heart and soulless pukes that spew your hate........To every one else I send Blessings and Peace......
March 1st, 2007 at 1:23 am