Three dead at veterans home after errors.
By on Feb 28th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Three dead at veterans home after errors.
“State inspectors said Tuesday that three men died at the Minneapolis Veterans Home after neglect or medication errors last month, and Gov. Tim Pawlenty promptly ordered the Minnesota Department of Health to begin monitoring day-to-day operations of the state-owned nursing home. … Two of the men who died were in hospice care; one was given penicillin and the other morphine sulfate when they were allergic to the drugs. … The third man was a diabetic who died after five nurses improperly monitored his plunging blood sugar. One nurse gave him a medication that lowered his blood sugar further.”
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And trolls talking about how state run health care is bad in 3…2…1
February 28th, 2007 at 2:56 pmLiving with less in the land of Pawlenty.
I’ve always been proud to be a Minnesotan. Even after ‘Nam I was treated as a homeboy & showed respect.
Now we have a Rightard claiming no new taxes while he slips in fees and hidden costs to try and remain fiscally solvent. (i.e, health impact fees, higher license costs & assorted other jewels.) He’s also forfeited millions of Federal dollars because he couldn’t come up with the State match, but no one knew about this until after the ‘06 elections.
Off topic, as regular posters know, I don’t cut & paste. I’ve been doing so with my Patrick 1.0 comments just to make a point that we, just like the trolls, can cut & paste, too.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:02 pmHow’s it feel P 1.0?
Gets a little boring, eh?
Now you know how we feel.
let me guess… this is somehow bush’s fault. right?
February 28th, 2007 at 3:03 pmSpudge,
You are a Vet, If I remember correctly. Would you want to subject the population of the US to the same level of service that members of the armed forces are subjected to?
I think our Vets deserve better than this.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:05 pmNothing that cutting veteran’s benefits won’t help, right, George?
February 28th, 2007 at 3:05 pmTechnically, hospice is defined as quality care for the terminally ill. These two men were going to die, and the article states that they don’t know if their deaths were the results of medication errors.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThat being said, there should have been a checks and balance system to prevent such errors from occuring.
What’s more, from the same article:
The governor’s action was prompted by the deaths, two years of “not so good” inspections that found scores of infractions, and the threat by federal officials on Friday to cut off about $7 million in payments for the care of veterans at the Minneapolis facility,
Okay, this pisses me off. They obviously don’t have a system to prevent errors, and they want to cut payments for care??? WTF???
Support the troops, my a$$!!!!
Yes, you remember correctly.
Of course I do. That is why I don’t use the VA hospitals. I have private health insurance.
The real problem though is the fu*king republicans who continue to cut social programs, the VA being one of them. These a$$holes keep fu*king sh!t up and then saying “See how bad it is”
That is like me slashing somebody’s tires and then saying “See you don’t want to drive that, it has flat tires.”
Now, let’s talk about reality, instead of the made up republican la la land.
The United States Congress has the best health care coverage in the United States, ney the whole world. THAT is the health care our troops and vets deserve, not to mention the rest of America.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:19 pm#3- This worked out pretty well for them. They were paraplegic, anyway.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:19 pm#7: You nailed it, Spudge. Republicans always argue that government is inefficient and incompetent. Then they go “prove” it by running the government into the ground. Of course, Bush ran two oil companies into bankruptcy, so he has relevant experience.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:24 pmIt is obviously time that Congress steps in and cleans this stuff up. Honestly, funding and oversight is the job of Congress. Do they not care at all about our Vets?
February 28th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI am so mad I could torch the paper all the reich wingers talking lies are written on…Better yet I could lite up their coat tales….This shit just get’s worse every day…The only good thing is, if it were possible to have even one good thing in the middle of the evil bushco take over, is that every one is now seeing all the evil and more is being brought out and the attention may cause posative change…I will hope…..Blessings to our troops and all the people of the world..
February 28th, 2007 at 3:33 pmTroubles for the Iraq Oil Deal
Read this and find the Truth about Iraq and bushes plans …
February 28th, 2007 at 3:39 pmNo Roger_Roger, the Republicans that have controlled Congress for the past 12 years did not and still do not care about our vets. The Democrats will clean it up again, but it will take longer than 2 months. Then you retards can vote another set of Republicans into office to fu*k everything up again. Rinse and repeat.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:45 pmThis is what happens when you cut veteran spending.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:47 pmI think our Vets deserve better than this.
Comment by hacker bob
Things that would fix VA problems.
1. fund the VA sufficiently to keep the promises made to our men and women in service
February 28th, 2007 at 3:48 pm2. appoint a Veteran as head of the VA, not some right-winged political hack who has never even served.
3. Congress re-establish the yearly meetings with veteran groups to address veteran greivances with the system. (The republicans permanently suspended this meeting to avoid “embarrasing the President”)
4. Imediately fire those involved in denying veteran claims on the first filing, like a crooked insurance company does.
#13 Well, I hope your right. It is the Dems responsiblity to clean this stuff up. It is funny how wer only hear about this horrible stuff when the Dems are in power. It makes you wonder if the old saying that the Dems don’t care about our soldiers is true. When the repugs were running congress, you rarely if ever heard anything bad about the care of our vets. In the last months, it is a constant stream of poo. Every time the Dems come into power, this stuff starts happening again.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:49 pmAnother example of socialized medicine at work. First these brave warriors, next the scum bucket Fidel.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:53 pmThe United States Congress has the best health care coverage in the United States, ney the whole world. THAT is the health care our troops and vets deserve, not to mention the rest of America.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 28, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
I agree.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:00 pmThey should rename VA Hospitals, Homes and Facilities “ROACH MOTELS”–WHERE YOU CHECK-IN…AND DON’T CHECK OUT!!!!!
February 28th, 2007 at 4:07 pmThe reasons why you don’t hear about it while the republicans are in charge is because they were not doing their job of Checks and Balances.
Checking would be looking into where you are funneling money. If you don’t check it, you can’t find out what is wrong with it. It is called corruption Roger_Roger. Something you seem to be okay with when it is Republicans. I am not. If it is a Dem or Repub, corruption is corruption.
If you don’t do your job at work, do you get fired? The Republicans did not Check anything, therefore they were fired on November 6, 2006. If the Democrats don’t do their job, they need to be fired.
But, all of this “poo” as you call it IS the Democrats doing their jobs. So, we will see.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:08 pmI kinda figured you would. It is so nice having a real opposition to talk to instead of stupid trolls.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#16 Roger_Roger
It is funny how wer only hear about this horrible stuff when the Dems are in power. It makes you wonder if the old saying that the Dems don’t care about our soldiers is true. When the repugs were running congress, you rarely if ever heard anything bad about the care of our vets. In the last months, it is a constant stream of poo. Every time the Dems come into power, this stuff starts happening again.
Do you really believe that? First, as far as this story goes, read my last post. The situation has been bad there for several years. It got attention in the news before, while the state’s governor and house were both under Republican control, but it apprently didn’t get fixed.
Secondly, have you considered that the reason we didn’t hear as much about this stuff on a national level before is that Republicans controlled the U.S. House and Senate, and the media weren’t all that curious? I can show you all the cuts to veterans benefits made by the Republicans that were fought by the Democrats. I can show you the voter ratings that show the huge difference between Dems and GOP on veterans issues. I can show you quotes from the Republican chair of the House Veterans Affairs Committee in the 109th Congress. And I can point to actions taken such as the one Wayne mentioned, barring Veterans Service Organizations like the VFW, American Legion, and DAV from testifying before the committee prior to the VA budget process. I can give you a mountain of evidence that shows the Republicans becoming increasingly callous towards the concerns of veterans, while the Democrats were trying in vain to get them the help they needed. Just tell me what you want to see.
To be fair, the head of the House Veterans Affairs Committee before Steven Buyer (R-IN) was Chris Smith (R-NJ), and he did care about the vets and worked hard to keep the VA funding level up to where it needed to be. That’s why he got bounced and replaced by Buyer.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#17 Patrick1
Another example of socialized medicine at work. First these brave warriors, next the scum bucket Fidel.
You don’t know what you’re talking about, you horse’s ass. Please shut up.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:10 pmRoger Roger full of shit as usual. You only hear about this distrace SINCE the Democrats came to power because the Republicans have had no investigations and the only oversight they know how to do is how to protect Bush from embarrasment. Ask any vet. This didn’t start in JANUARY JACKASS. This, like IRAQ is a BUSH REPUBLICAN DISGRACE.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:10 pmWell, I hope your right. It is the Dems responsiblity to clean this stuff up. — roger_roger
It is now, since the republicans are the ones that created the mess, cancelled the yearly veteran meetings,and put a political hack with no VA experience to head the VA.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:17 pmNice try, no cigar for you though.
Roger_Roger is a coward and a st*pid old c*nt. Put away your panties Roger, there are people in the room that don’t want to see you naked!
February 28th, 2007 at 4:25 pm#22
First, as far as this story goes, read my last post.
Well, my previous post didn’t post. I’m not sure why, but my point was about the problems of understaffing that the Minneapolis Veterans Home has had for a long time.
Vets’ Home violating direct care staffing rules
Friday, 2 September 2005
If the average level of direct care required by Vets Home residents is comparable to that of the average MN nursing home, Vets Home would have to increase the number of hours worked by nurse aides 10 fold in order to comply with MN Department of Health regulations.
Staff were overworked and some couldn’t stay the extra hours they were being told to put in, leading some of them to leave and cause understaffing to worsen.
The VA’s response to the current problem is to threaten to cut off funds to the Veterans Home. Yeah, that should help.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:31 pmstate-owned nursing home
I’m surprised they lived as long as they did.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:36 pmPatrick1 now has a problem with nursing homes. I sugest that when he gets older, he just shoots himself in the head rather than be forced to live ina nursing home using liberal health care.
February 28th, 2007 at 4:39 pmhe just shoots himself in the head rather than be forced to live ina nursing home using liberal health care.
The outcome would be the same.
February 28th, 2007 at 5:10 pmDoesn’t Patrick1 realize that a bullet would cause the American taxpayer about $1 and keeping his dumba$$ alive in a nursing home would cost American taxpayers thousands of dollars and that those are not the same outcome?
February 28th, 2007 at 6:08 pmhe just shoots himself in the head rather than be forced to live ina nursing home using liberal health care.
The outcome would be the same.
Comment by Patrick1 — February 28, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Then we suggest you take yourself out – since the outcome would be the same if you didn’t. Isn’t that right fcuking fool?
February 28th, 2007 at 6:12 pmbuyer first home nj time
I found your post comments while searching Google. Very relevant especially as this is not an issue which a lot of peaople are conversant with.
March 30th, 2008 at 1:09 pm