Did White House Pull Nomination To Avoid Questions Over 2004 Minority Voter Suppression?
Did White House Pull Nomination To Avoid Questions Over 2004 Minority Voter Suppression?
Tim Griffin — a “37-year-old protege” of Karl Rove and the former research director of the Republican National Committee — has become the poster boy for the Bush administration’s politicization of the office of U.S. attorney.
On Feb. 15, Griffin suddenly announced that he had “made the decision not to let my name go forward to the Senate” for approval. Instead, he will serve indefinitely as an “interim” prosecutor. By avoiding Senate approval, Griffin will also avoid having to answer questions under oath about his role in a plan to supress Florida votes — primarily those of African-American servicemembers — in the 2004 election. From the LA Times, 10/28/04:
The Bush campaign is planning an election day effort to disrupt ballot casting by African Americans by challenging voters whose names are on a “caging list,” according to a British news report.
Citing an internal GOP e-mail with the subject line “caging,” the BBC reported Tuesday that Florida Republicans had a list of 1,886 names and addresses of voters in largely black and traditionally Democratic areas of Jacksonville. …
But African American leaders Wednesday called the list another “shameful” Republican effort to keep blacks from voting.
Yesterday, the public radio station KUAR in Arkansas aired an interview with Griffin, in which he denied involvement in this scheme. He called the report “patently false.”
Congressional sources tell ThinkProgress that the White House has decided not to proceed with the Griffin nomination because it would bring up questions about the 2004 caging scheme. If Griffin wasn’t involved, he should say that under oath. Congress and the public deserve the opportunity to question a U.S. attorney about his possible role in suppressing minority voters.
Transcript:
RON BREEDING, KUAR HOST: Well, Mr. Griffin, if I may interrupt. One of the specific things that has been talked about — I know you worked on campaigns, but it’s been alleged you were involved in voter suppression efforts and that sort of thing. Can you speak to the types of work you did on campaigns?
TIM GRIFFIN, U.S. ATTORNEY: Sure. I was — First of all, the allegations of voter suppression, or whatever you were referring to, I’m intimately familiar with those allegations. That is a web article on the Internet. It is patently false. I have told Sen. Pryor it was patently false. I have explained that in detail.
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Another liberal urban myth. Got to love thingprogress and their bizarro conspiracy theories. We lost so there must be a voter supression going on. No wonder you people are called moonbats.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmLike Chimpy said, “Bring it on”!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmIs caging when you don’t know the difference between Pat Buchanan and Al Gore?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmWhat’s the fuss? former Chief Justice William Rehnquist did exactly the same thing as a law clerk for the GOP back in the day in AZ (turning Mexicans away from the polls in Hispanic disctricts) - it’s tradition with the Republicans, and it dates back to Jim Crow days. That’s how Republicans operate, and how they succeed, when they succeed. They’ve never done a thing to “promote the general welfare”. Republicans are, nominally and literally, the Anti-Democratic Party.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:57 pmPatrick1; Do something useful for a change, give yourself an enema…..with a hand grenade.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pmDid White House Pull Nomination To Avoid Questions Over 2004 Minority Voter Suppression?
YES!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pmIs caging when you don’t know the difference between Pat Buchanan and Al Gore? Comment by Patrick1 — March 2, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
No, it’s more like when you’re Ann Coulter, and you’re so st*pid that you give a false address to become a felon.
You’re a st*pid little c*n’t are you Patrick?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pmi’ll bet dollars to dogturds that brave patriot patrick didn’t know that the former chief justice was really a 2-bit political hit man for a corrupt and criminal political party.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmAnother liberal urban myth. Got to love thingprogress and their bizarro conspiracy theories. We lost so there must be a voter supression going on. No wonder you people are called moonbats. Comment by Patrick1 — March 2, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Tell that to the two Ohio Officials just sentenced to Jail over voter suppression and recount rigging in 2000! You’re a st*pid c*nt patrick.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pmI think caging is when you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground, because you’ve been lied to for so long. Unlike the neo-fascists, however, we liberals manage to evolve anyway. Not only do we manage to figure out the difference, we figure out how to bury thier miserable asses in a DEEP hole in the ground.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmwhen you can’t win a fair fight, you turn republican(conservative)
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmNo wonder you people are called moonbats.
Comment by Patrick1 — March 2, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Better than being called a pedophile like a good many of your political Representatives…
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:02 pmValiantVenusGrewFromUranus …. don’t let Patrick Star upset you like that.
YOu are better then that.
He really has no life, and only lives to make stupid comments that get people upset. Think about it, why does he blog here?
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmPatrick1; Do something useful for a change, give yourself an enema…..with a hand grenade.
Comment by Uncle Ho — March 2, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
Thank you, Uncle Ho. I was debating about how to respond to P1’s comment, but you saved me the trouble.
Have a lovely weekend, all!
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmSorry I meant recount in 2004. The ones involved in 2000 were ‘previously’ sentenced.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmJaneESchneider; You are welcome.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pmValiantVenusGrewFromUranus …. don’t let Patrick Star upset you like that.
YOu are better then that. Comment by DMom — March 2, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
Me upset - not in the slightest! It’s just important to call him what he is - a st*pid c*nt :)
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pmOk, Guys,
I really don’t like to impinge on anyone else’s First Amendment Rights,….
However,
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmDo you realize how demeaning, offensive, and just plain dirty-nasty-disgusting that particular word is to women?
Please - no woman, no matter how awful they may be, deserves to be called that name.
It’s a verbal assault.
Thanks for listening.
Patrick1 gets his jollies from upsetting people here with his stupid and outrageous comments - just ignore him. When he has no one to tease, he will get bored.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmIt’s funny that most of the people that scream voter fraud, don’t want showing an ID card to be mandatory at the polls. You can’t have it both ways, either you care about the integrity of the vote, or you don’t.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmIt’s a verbal assault.
Thanks for listening.
Comment by trueblue
I think VVGFU and I came to an agreement on the Asperger’s/autism issue, so I’ll let you fight this battle. :)
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmAh Yes, the Nazi-Fascists in Bushland Uber Allies are in FULL SWING, having gotten their marching orders from Fuhrers Torticola Cheney and CHIMPya Bush, and Goebbels Karl Miss Piggy Rove TO DO AS MUCH HARM AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THEY ARE EITHER BROUGHT TO JUSTICE BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE or THE TIME RUNS OUT FOR THEM IN 2008!!!!! REMEMBER THE FATE OF THE THIRD REICH, Forth Reichers of Bushland Uber Allies!!!!!
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmIt’s funny that most of the people that scream voter fraud, don’t want showing an ID card to be mandatory at the polls. You can’t have it both ways, either you care about the integrity of the vote, or you don’t.
Comment by rabidbunny — March 2, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
No, what’s funny is Conservatives that say there’s no voter fraud, don’t want voting machines to print a receipt to allow accurate recounting. You can’t have it both ways, you either don’t believe there’s a problem, or you won’t block voter verification. See how that works - st*pid hypocritical c*nt?
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March 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pmHowever, Do you realize how demeaning, offensive, and just plain dirty-nasty-disgusting that particular word is to women?
Please - no woman, no matter how awful they may be, deserves to be called that name. Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Yes, I do realize how demeaning and offensive that world is. And that’s where we disagree. Someone that makes jokes about their supposedly dead children, that calls for the mass murder of others, does deserve that title. These terms exist for a reason - some people are hateful enough to deserve them.
If you feel the need to defend valiant venus - you can do that, it’s your choice.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pmI think VVGFU and I came to an agreement on the Asperger’s/autism issue, so I’ll let you fight this battle. :) Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
I disagreed with your conclusions on this, as many medical professionals would. I did appreciate how it affected you, and how you projected what I said on your child. I’m sure you’ve helped your child cope, and learn how to behave in a well socialized manner. But that was actually my point. Children with those mental issues have to be taught to cope - because their brain doesn’t process emotive signals. They can only learn a pattern - they can’t empathize. It’s a scientific fact, not an opinion Zooey.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmI’m not defending the person.
I’m saying it’s a word that should be thrown out of every person’s vocabulary.
It’s disgusting.
There are other ways to voice your dislike.
It’s just that that particular word is right up there with the hap-hazard way some people use the word “rape” to describe a situation that is not rape.
It’s volatile.
I don’t mean to say anything negative about your posts, truly.
It’s that word……..
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:40 pmThought yall might be interested to know that members of Democratic Underground were the first to capture these emails with their attachments (caging lists) and then got them to a bunch of “right” people….2 of whom you will be surprised to know were Ana Marie Cox and Greg Palast. One of the DUers just happened upon them, quickly alterted other members who were online, and they were quickly downloaded to our personal computers. I still have my caging lists stored here somewhere.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmI guess I was wrong, VVGFU, I thought we had reached a certain level of agreement. But you are wrong, too. Autism/Asperger’s is not a “mental issue,” it’s a developmental disability — there is a difference. A lack of empathy can be an issue, but it is not always black or white.
I’m done with this issue. You are more concerned with being right, than learning anything.
And while I’m at it — using the word c*nt insults every woman on this blog, and instead of inflicting harm on VV as you hope, you only succeed in using language that drags the rest of us to her level.
Do what you want. You always do.
Thanks. Not.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:46 pmBack on topic:
What’s to keep Congress from initiating an investigation into voter suppression efforts and subpoening this guy anyway?
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:53 pmOff topic:
The use of coarse language demeans the poster, not the intended recipient of the insult. Personally, I find it more fun to keep insults in the 3-syllable range. By the time the person finishes looking up the terms, it’s too late for a come-back!
Of course, with Mighty A - aka Valiant Venus, all I have to do is pull another Rune.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pm#30 - the same thing that stopped them from doing so every other one of the thousands of times Republicans have done exactly the same things.
the whole notion of it was poo-poo’ed in Congress during Rehnquist’s confirmation hearings, because he had done it and admitted to doing it.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pmI guess I was wrong, VVGFU, I thought we had reached a certain level of agreement. But you are wrong, too. Autism/Asperger’s is not a “mental issue,†it’s a developmental disability — there is a difference. A lack of empathy can be an issue, but it is not always black or white. Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
I have complete empathy for people with the disease - it can be a horrible disease. It is a mental issue, and the latest research shows it has overlap with Bi-polar and other brain development issues. A mental illness doesn’t mean you suddenly wake up one day and can’t cope with the world. Many mental illnesses are physiological in nature.
Your claim that it’s ‘developmental’, implies that with the proper parenting or coaching the child will be ‘normal’, but that’s not true. Anymore than a child born with down syndrome is genetically or developmentally normal.
I’m done with this issue. You are more concerned with being right, than learning anything. Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
Yes, as someone with the mind of a scientist you’re correct - I am more concerned with being right than supporting the fantasy of someone else. Whether that fantasy is that there’s no global warming, that the earth is 8000 years old, or that Autism isn’t a ‘mental illness’. I grant you it’s a physiologically based mental illness - but most are.
And while I’m at it — using the word c*nt insults every woman on this blog, and instead of inflicting harm on VV as you hope, you only succeed in using language that drags the rest of us to her level. Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
Not at all. You’ve been perfectly clear that I don’t represent you on the use of that language - as you should. I commend you for standing for what you believe - as do I.
Do what you want. You always do. Thanks. Not.
Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
You’re right, I do what I want - that’s why I value being an american. And I recommend you examine why you feel the need to control, the same way Venus does when it’s one of your pet ‘emotional’ issues. You’re a smart cookie, a wonderful person, and an articulate and admirable person.
Both of these items are sensitive for you because you’ve internalize my actions as attacking you, and your child - neither of which I’ve done. I don’t find your criticism of me being a c*, nor do I find anything you’ve ever done remotely of that category. I’m sure your child reflects your high degree of morality in his actions - because he’s your child and you’re a caring person. But you’re child will manage his disability because of you, and what you teach him. Jason is untreated - and it shows. That’s the difference.
And Zooey, please accept my apology for how my behavior offends you - I am sorry for how it makes you feel, but you’re right that it won’t change my opinion of VV or Jason.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmThe use of coarse language demeans the poster, not the intended recipient of the insult. Personally, I find it more fun to keep insults in the 3-syllable range. By the time the person finishes looking up the terms, it’s too late for a come-back!
Of course, with Mighty A - aka Valiant Venus, all I have to do is pull another Rune.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 2, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
This is why my language is *’d and not the whole word. Who supplies those extra characters, owns the outcome. If you want find a different word, you can.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:03 pmLet’s put some crooks in jail. period.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 pm#33 - VVGFU — As long as you use words like “disease” and “mental illness” you have no credibility on the issue of Asperger’s or autism.
I’m sorry if you don’t like it.
My use of the word “developmental” does not imply that with proper parenting or coaching a child with a developmental disability would be normal. I never said or implied any such thing. I don’t live in a dream world.
You language offends me. But it would be astronomically idiotic of me to expect any change from you, so I won’t bother to ask.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:14 pmVVGFU,
Ugh.
You can’t blame the reader for using reading comprehension skills to dicipher your use of language.
You just don’t get how offensive it it.
Perhaps you lack social skills?….. (Asperger’s)
(most of the scientists I worked with suffered from the same problem. Book smart. People stupid.)
I’m done as well.
No sense talking to a brick wall.
We’ll have to agree to disagree, and I’ll have to move past any of your offensive posts.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:14 pmNo, what’s funny is Conservatives that say there’s no voter fraud, don’t want voting machines to print a receipt to allow accurate recounting. You can’t have it both ways, you either don’t believe there’s a problem, or you won’t block voter verification. See how that works - st*pid hypocritical c*nt?
Who is saying that there shouldn’t be a receipt. Can you provide a linK?
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 pm#33 - We don’t have to agree, but thank you for the kind things you said.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:17 pmWho is saying that there shouldn’t be a receipt. Can you provide a linK? Comment by rabidbunny — March 2, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
A link to what? In virtually every state (and politicians at the federal level) that has electronic only voting machines, the GOP has resisted efforts to require receipts. Or are you st*pid enough to not know that?
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 pmEven as an interim USA couldn’t he still be supoened to appear before the committee?
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 pm#33 - VVGFU — As long as you use words like “disease†and “mental illness†you have no credibility on the issue of Asperger’s or autism. I’m sorry if you don’t like it. Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Yet we have brain damage, and genetic anomalies that are detectable - making it very much a disease. It’s also listed clearly by the medical profession as a ‘mental illness’ that is developmentally related.
My use of the word “developmental†does not imply that with proper parenting or coaching a child with a developmental disability would be normal. I never said or implied any such thing. I don’t live in a dream world. Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
So if it isn’t behavioral, it’s biological. The person has a ‘disease’ that if left untreated will in fact prevent them from living a normal life - many will never live normally even with treatment. You’ve just described a ‘disease’.
You language offends me. But it would be astronomically idiotic of me to expect any change from you, so I won’t bother to ask. Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Sure you will - because you know I’m a scientific and reasonable person :)
Please explain to me (I’m being honest and open here), why this is not a ‘disease’ or a ‘mental illness’, when developmental disorders are classified as one or both of these?
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 pmVVGFU, Ugh. You can’t blame the reader for using reading comprehension skills to dicipher your use of language. Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Tell that to a novelist, when you explain to them that they have to tell you what the novel ‘means’.
You just don’t get how offensive it it. Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Yes I do. And if I call you that word, you’ll have every right to be offended. If I say all women, or even most women are that word, you have every right to be offended. But if I point out that a specific woman is that word - your offense is superfluous and arbitrary.
Perhaps you lack social skills?….. (Asperger’s) Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Perhaps I do - but then again I ‘feel’ your upset, and recognize it, and even understand it. I just don’t agree with it, nor do I feel that it’s a reasonable reaction for this situation.
(most of the scientists I worked with suffered from the same problem. Book smart. People stupid.) I’m done as well. No sense talking to a brick wall. Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
Now who’s generalizing?
We’ll have to agree to disagree, and I’ll have to move past any of your offensive posts. Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
I’m sorry you’re so offended at the honesty of others. I’ve met ‘overly-sensitive’ people like yourself as well. Your tragedy is that you blame me for your upset - when it wasn’t you that I attacked. If anything, I admire you, and your deep capacity to put yourself in the place of others. Your defense of Valiant is admirable, but she won’t appreciate it - no matter what she says. Because she doesn’t respect you - I do, despite what we disagree on.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pm#42 - Sorry, I’m done with this. It costs me too much. Sorry.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 pmI decided to add my two cents on coarse language. Even with an “*” the intent to use a sexually degrading word is still obvious, and I think lowers the general discourse. I don’t think sexually vulgar language adds anything to the conversation. It holds up to insult not only the person its aimed at but by implication the majority of the human race. Lets be more courteous.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmI’m with you, Zooey.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:40 pmAll part of the Republican electoral strategy:
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:41 pm“Divide, Suppress and Conquer.”
Thanks, skeptic.
Unfortunately, VVGFU is asea on “denile”
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:42 pm;)
I’m with you, Zooey.
Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
Yet you don’t find it ‘ironic’ that you would attempt to insult me with a charge of ‘Aspergers’? Wow, no hypocrisy there.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:52 pmI don’t think sexually vulgar language adds anything to the conversation. It holds up to insult not only the person its aimed at but by implication the majority of the human race. Lets be more courteous. Comment by skeptic — March 2, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
It insults the majority, if you feel that the insult applies to the majority. I do not, but apparently you do. How sad.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pmThanks, skeptic.
Unfortunately, VVGFU is asea on “denileâ€
;) Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
I’m not the one that is denying that this is a ‘disease’. It’s you. And the hypocrisy of trueblue using ‘Aspergers’ as an insult of me, adds her/him to the list of hypocrisy.
I don’t find all women c*nts, in fact the handful that qualify for this most certainly are their own women. It is you that deny they exist, and deserve this designation.
That’s your right. But answer me this - have you ever made a denigrating remark specifically about men? Of course you haven’t…
At least I’m clear that I’m referring to an individual, and don’t believe that individual represents ‘all-women’. Apparently you do, which I find ‘denial’ and ’sad’.
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmAnd trueblue, and Zooey - if you ever used the word d*ck to refer to a man - that makes you the ultimate in hypocrites. Or hadn’t you thought of that?
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:59 pmAnd while I’m at it — using the word c*nt insults every woman on this blog.
Comment by Zooey
You need thicker skin fcvker!
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:59 pmZooey hypocrite no way oh my god!
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:00 pmYou language offends me. But it would be astronomically idiotic of me to expect any change from you, so I won’t bother to ask. Comment by Zooey
What a asshat this sheeple is!
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:02 pm**methinks he doth protest too much**
I implied your lack of empathy could be construed as an Asperger’s trait. You took it otherwise - something you are accusing me of.
Just because you don’t call us that disgusting word does not mean it doesn’t affect us.
Try calling one African American the n- word while telling all other African Americans “you don’t mean them.”
Tell me how far that’d get you…..
Just drop it.
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:09 pmYou don’t get it, and I’m in no position to let you see the light.
Your language offends me…
Comment by Astronomical Idiot Zooey
Heh you a funny f*cker
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:12 pmAnd trueblue, and Zooey - if you ever used the word d*ck to refer to a man - that makes you the ultimate in hypocrites. Or hadn’t you thought of that?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
I don’t think you see me or trueblue using that word. Why do you bring it up? Deflecting from yourself? You’ve learned a lot from MA.
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:19 pmZooey is no “idiot”.
However, your treatment AND language gives you away as an insecure misogynist.
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pmOh look, it’s Flaco. Pfffttt.
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pmZooey,
I say we go elsewhere on this site.
Why waste time with mental midgets?
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 pm:P
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 2, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
“Who supplies those extra characters, owns the outcome.”
Sorry, WRONG!!!
You’re playing the game of blaming the victim, and I don’t buy it. That’s a cheap cop-out, and you know it.
Since you’re adjective deprived, I recommend you use a Thesaurus. Otherwise, all the good you do posting here is undermined by your creative spelling of otherwise objectionable language, and no amount of attempting to blame the reader for correctly interpreting your intent will salvage our diminished view of your linguistic capabilities.
(I practice what I preach)
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmThank you, Briseadh na Faire!
:)
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmYou’re welcome, trueblue.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmThank you, friend!
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pmNamaste, Zooey.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pmReading all of this Progressive cannibalism (infighting)…
…it’s no wonder these criminal sons-of-bi*ches in the White(man’s) House…
…and Congress…
…are getting away with their crimes…
…all it takes is a word or two…
…and DUHmericans get busy parsing and impressing each other with their broad range of totally irrelevant bullsh*t….
…they can neither keep their minds on the matters at hand, nor maintain message discipline…
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March 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmAnother liberal urban myth. Got to love thingprogress and their bizarro conspiracy theories. We lost so there must be a voter supression going on. No wonder you people are called moonbats. Comment by Patrick1 — March 2, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Tell that to the two Ohio Officials just sentenced to Jail over voter suppression and recount rigging in 2000! You’re a st*pid c*nt patrick.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
And wasn’t someone (or more than one) affiliated with the Repub Party in New Hampshire arrested and sentenced to prison time for jamming Democratic Headquarters’ phone lines on election day?
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 pmOh, yes, all an urban myth, Pat1, like the existence of your brain. BTW, I noticed you disappeared from the thread on the Bushevik plan to defund the Office of Women’s Health, after I pointed out the US maternal death rate and how it compares to other industrialized nations. I doubt that’s a mere coincidence, since you’re always short on hard facts and produce only neo-CON sound bites.
Lora, good to hear from you again!
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 pmAh, Briseadh,
March 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 amIn the past week I developed the highest fever I’ve had in over a decade. I didn’t go out to work (though I did some at home), couldn’t eat anything but yogurt, and missed a concert/reception that I had very much looked forward to. In addition, my own PC was attacked by malware/spyware and may have been a lemon from the outset. (IBM is looking into that for free, and I am currently using hubby’s PC.) I sometimes looked at TP during that time but was hardly up to posting. Hope things are going better for you.
You’re playing the game of blaming the victim, and I don’t buy it. That’s a cheap cop-out, and you know it.
Since you’re adjective deprived, I recommend you use a Thesaurus. Otherwise, all the good you do posting here is undermined by your creative spelling of otherwise objectionable language, and no amount of attempting to blame the reader for correctly interpreting your intent will salvage our diminished view of your linguistic capabilities.
(I practice what I preach)
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 2, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
You do? Is that why you throw ‘runes’ to ‘attack’ those you disagree with? Is that practicing what you preach? Because if you think that’s any less ‘offensive’ or ‘decide for yourself’ what something means - you’re fooling yourself.
And no amount of attempting blame your reader for correctly interpreting your intent will salvage our diminished view of your capabilities, despite your hypocrisy in presenting it.
Which is worse, foul words disguised, or foul judgments disguised as runes? I’m much more honest with my judgements of others than you are - that makes you the diminished and dishonest hypocrite.
March 3rd, 2007 at 1:18 amWhy waste time with mental midgets?
:P Comment by trueblue — March 2, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
Yeah, and I’m the insulting one? You think insulting your gender is taboo, but insulting my intellect is fair game? For a bright person, sometimes, you’re downright st*pid.
March 3rd, 2007 at 1:27 amI don’t think you see me or trueblue using that word. Why do you bring it up? Deflecting from yourself? You’ve learned a lot from MA.
Comment by Zooey — March 2, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
And you guys have learned a lot from her about being self righteous hypocrites. Get over yourselves.
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What a dickhead!
Comment by trueblue — December 7, 2006 @ 10:13 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 12/ 07/ frist-farewell/ #comment-1243094
That bitch stood you up!?
Comment by Zooey — November 28, 2006 @ 11:50 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 11/ 28/ morris-pelosi-harman/ #comment-1196728\
Just to be clear to both of you - I like it when you aren’t afraid to use accurate language. Your attacks on me for doing the same as you’ve done is what I expect from valiant venus - not the two of you.
March 3rd, 2007 at 2:51 amThe Republicans have a long history of voter supression. There’s nothing new or shocking here.
The thing that I found scary was that Griffin was described as a Carl Rove protogé. It’s like these people keep replicating.
And if you think about it, every few decades we almost lose our country to the radical right… the McCarthy era, the Nixon administration… each group planting the seeds that will give rise to the next.
How many high officials in the Bush administration came from the Nixon cabinet? Rumsfeld, Cheyney, Wolfowitz, Powell, Armitage, and Kissenger still on the sidelines.
And this administration is coming closer to destroying our country than any of them. Our constitution is gone via the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts, and it will be almost impossible to challenge these acts in court because the administration is getting rid of real judges and attorneys and replacing them with the likes of Griffin, and our only hope, the Democrats, are hemming and hawing over nonbinding resolutions and war funding.
If this continues it won’t just be black voters who are supressed, it will be all voters.
March 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 amUranus, I do not “throw” runes. I draw them from a black velvet pouch. They could be considered to be a message from the Universe, or random nonsense, depending upon your particular belief system.
If you take them as “foul judgments,” well, they’re drawn at random, so who is really doing the judging? I assure you, I don’t just peruse a list of runes and their meanings and select one to “attack” someone; I draw the Runes at random, and I share it as a message from the Universe; how is that being hypocritical?
Now, since your “foul judgements disguised as runes” argument is inaccurate, that leaves you with “foul words disguised.” Would you like to know the message from the Universe to you?
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:00 amComment by Lora — March 3, 2007 @ 12:12 am
They are. I took the attorney’s oath last Tuesday.
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:15 amThere should be a television show where psychics read the minds of politicians, seriously.
Even better, they should come on the show and be hypnotized, so we can ask them questions. If only…
March 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pmI took the attorney’s oath last Tuesday.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:15 am
Congrats to you BnF.
March 3rd, 2007 at 12:29 pmGlad you’re here to comment.
77 - Danny,
March 3rd, 2007 at 12:38 pmThe psycics would come up with a blank.
Big Papa:
Amen.
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March 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 pm[…] Did White House Pull Nomination To Avoid Questions Over 2004 Minority Voter Suppression? […]
March 3rd, 2007 at 5:51 pmIsn’t it enough that this guy has virtually no pertinent experience? Professional partisan mudslinger is not a qualification for US Attorney. I think there are many awkward questions that could be asked about Rove’s dirty tricks, which are many.
March 3rd, 2007 at 8:20 pmUranus, I do not “throw†runes. I draw them from a black velvet pouch. They could be considered to be a message from the Universe, or random nonsense, depending upon your particular belief system. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:00 am
Or it’s a message from your own subconscience related to what you want it to be. This is called quantum engagement - I suggest you research it.
If you take them as “foul judgments,†well, they’re drawn at random, so who is really doing the judging? Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:00 am
You are judging. The difference is I ‘own’ it, instead of blaming it on the universe.
I assure you, I don’t just peruse a list of runes and their meanings and select one to “attack†someone; I draw the Runes at random, and I share it as a message from the Universe; how is that being hypocritical? Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:00 am
I assure you that you do peruse them, at a subconscious level.
Now, since your “foul judgements disguised as runes†argument is inaccurate, that leaves you with “foul words disguised.†Would you like to know the message from the Universe to you? Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:00 am
You haven’t established that it is inaccurate. And your judgments aren’t related to ‘throwing’ your runes. You judge quite nicely without it - own your judgmental self. It’s just as much of a part of you, as it is everyone. Just as you ‘judge’ me here. Your hypocrisy though is very ‘valiant-venus’. Ironic eh?
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:25 pmComment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 3, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
You really should be posting on the above thread:
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 03/ 03/ post-reporter-we-are-not-spared-the-nasty-vulgar-e-mail-from-liberal-blog-readers/ #comments
I’m sure the right wing commentators who peruse liberal blogs would love to hear you voice you opinion on using foul language disguised by an *. As for me being judgmental regarding you, I haven’t gone down that path yet. All I’ve done thus far is hold up a mirror. If you don’t like what you see, well, that’s your problem.
You want to defend your right to use foul language here, fine. As the above thread shows, it merely reflects poorly on you, and by association, “liberal blogs.” Your choice of words reflects a crude and uneducated mind.
“I assure you that you do peruse them, at a subconscious level.”
I suggest you research shamanism. There are more levels than merely subconscious.
And, if you truly know of such phenomena as quantum engagement, why are you reduced to calling someone a “c*nt”?
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 pmI’m sure the right wing commentators who peruse liberal blogs would love to hear you voice you opinion on using foul language disguised by an *. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
You actually believe that the word c*nt has anything to do with threatening the life of someone?
As for me being judgmental regarding you, I haven’t gone down that path yet. All I’ve done thus far is hold up a mirror. If you don’t like what you see, well, that’s your problem. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Funny, I see the mirror, but you don’t. That’s what I’ve done to you - hold up the mirror, but it’s you that refuse to look. I totally own using that word, against this person.
You want to defend your right to use foul language here, fine. As the above thread shows, it merely reflects poorly on you, and by association, “liberal blogs.†Your choice of words reflects a crude and uneducated mind.
“I assure you that you do peruse them, at a subconscious level.â€
You want to defend your right to use foul language here, fine.Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Yeah, foul language is just going to destroy young minds Tipper. Especially when they’re ‘censored’. I’m sure Jon Stewart appreciates your ‘expert’ opinion.
As the above thread shows, it merely reflects poorly on you, and by association, “liberal blogs.†Your choice of words reflects a crude and uneducated mind. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Please, don’t be a fool. A crude and uneducated mind? Wow, so much ‘foul’ judgment, from someone that lectures not to judge. How much do you know about quantum engagement again?
Do you really think that the right wingnuts need ‘me’ to come up with their smears? They would post it themselves, and they wouldn’t censor it to attack you. Don’t be such a fool. I made no threats, and I specifically call people a term that is no more derogatory that most everyone else here has/does use. The difference? I ‘censored’ myself. Thanks for calling Zooey and trueblue crude and uneducated minds - oh wait, you didn’t despite their posts that didn’t censor. Pull your head out of your *ss and stop being a hypocrite. You remind me of valiant venus’ double standards.
“I assure you that you do peruse them, at a subconscious level.â€
I suggest you research shamanism. There are more levels than merely subconscious. Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
I suggest you research deeper, you’ll see that you create what you look for in matters of ‘chance’. That’s what quantum is all about.
And, if you truly know of such phenomena as quantum engagement, why are you reduced to calling someone a “c*nt� Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Because that’s what she being. It’s called ‘honesty’. You should try it sometime. I’m quite familiar with quantum engagement - but you’ve proven you are not.
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 pmUranus, just STFU..
March 4th, 2007 at 2:41 amUranus, just STFU..
Comment by troll alert — March 4, 2007 @ 2:41 am
KMA, dum bass.
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March 4th, 2007 at 6:07 pm[…] Did White House Pull Nomination To Avoid Questions Over 2004 Minority Voter Suppression? […]
March 5th, 2007 at 10:09 pm[…] Progress noted that Griffin was deeply involved in the voter suppression efforts during President George W. Bush’s the 2004 reelection […]
March 14th, 2007 at 3:09 amSome people think cunt is a beautiful word. Please don’t take it from us. It’s just a word.
March 14th, 2007 at 5:44 pmSome of us think c u n t is a beautiful word. I personally find the word vagina very offensive. Why don’t we all just stop using words that others find offensive and everyone will be happy. Oh, the word happy offends you, well f u c k!!!
March 14th, 2007 at 5:46 pmAnother liberal urban myth. Got to love thingprogress and their bizarro conspiracy theories. We lost so there must be a voter supression going on. No wonder you people are called moonbats. Comment by Patrick1 — March 2, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
March 14th, 2007 at 5:49 pmSpoken like a true Dildo-head……………or ditto-head or whatever..
So we’re supposed to just take Karl’s favorite little blowjob at his word? Give me a break…
March 14th, 2007 at 8:35 pmNo, you’ve got it wrong….Patrick! isn’t a “st*pid litle c*nt”, he’s a Republicunt.
March 15th, 2007 at 8:50 am[…] Pulls US Attorney Nomination To Avoid Voter Suppression Questions. Think Progress » Did White House Pull Nomination To Avoid Questions Over 2004 Minority Voter Suppres… […]
March 15th, 2007 at 10:07 amBeing offended by a word is silly. Especially when that word isn’t aimed at you.
The people who claim the word ‘c**t’ is offensive to all women apparently haven’t met ALL women, because I know a few that use it quite well.
Besides, country music is more offensive than any word. But I don’t call for a ban on it, I just make fun of people that have such bad hearing that they listen to it.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:07 am[…] Boozman added it would “take between six and nine months” to identify Griffin’s replacement. Meanswhile, the White House has still not yet named a new nominee, and Griffin has said that he is ready and willing to serve until the end of Bush’s term. […]
March 17th, 2007 at 3:01 pmDick Cheney was right about one thing.
The insugency is in its last throes.
The insurgeny of the Republican party may be in its last days after all of these hearings.
It seems to me the Repuplcians have an affinity for the dark ages.
As long as they are kept in the dark everything is fine.
March 18th, 2007 at 7:38 amHow can this guy maintain all of his power and authority by remaining “interim?” This is utter BS. If congressional approval can be bypassed this easily, then we’re in big trouble. And allowing interims to serve for an unlimited time was a provision snuck into the “patriot act” at the last minute… Now why would a law abiding, honest administration seek to allow judges to be appointed for an unlimited time with no congressional approval?
To all the wingnuts: For everyone of these outrageous actions, ask yourself “Would this piss me off if Democrats did it? Would the Republics be all over it like profit on Halliburton? Or like roaches on a wounded soldier?”
Also to all wingnuts who say that opening mail, reading email, monitoring phone calls, pulling bank records, etc, are all OK if you have nothing to hide: If this guy has nothing to hide, then why won’t he testify under oath? Since it’s not OK to him, by your own “logic” he has something to hide.
(I know, I know: A -> ~B /->/ ~B -> A)
Personally, I’d like to see a law that says that EVERYTHING stated by a politician in public, or at least at a press conference, considered to be under oath (even if being under oath is a sin against Christ, which the “Christians” in gov’t don’t seem to be aware of.)
Then statements like:
1) “We’re not wiretapping Americans.”
2) “We are wiretapping, but we’re getting warrants.”
3) “We are doing warrantless wiretapping.”
Would be under oath. And since no two can be true at the same time, much less all three, then one or more must be a, hmmm, what’s the word I’m looking for.. ahh.. LIE. Which is also a sin. Not a good action by a dude who talks to god.
Jesus Forbids Oaths
33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, “You shall not
swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’
34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven,
for it is God’s throne;
35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it
is the city of the great King.
36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black.
37 But let your “Yes’ be “Yes,’ and your “No,’ “No.’
For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
— JC : Sermon on the Mount
10 NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’
— God, aka Yaweh, Allah via Moses : The Ten Commandments.
Read a book: Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all Abrahamic Religions
and all Believe in the same god. You all have more in common than you’d
like to believe. Or admit.
And don’t forget:
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to
those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute
you.
— JC : Sermon on the Mount
Christians should occasionally act Christian. It’s only fair.
Love me, bless me, pray for me. Or sin.
March 20th, 2007 at 2:07 pmThis is such a waste of internet space it isn’t funny. Didn’t happen. Find something truthful or stop writing.
March 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pm[…] In June 2006, the Justice Department fired Bud Cummins as U.S. attorney in Arkansas and replaced him with Karl Rove-protege Tim Griffin. […]
March 20th, 2007 at 5:40 pmI am a reasonably articulate person who happens to believe that there are moments when the use of profanity is the most accurate way to express the depth of my feelings.
And I am apologizing in advance to any third party who might be offended by my choice of words. Obviously, those who are the target(s) of my disdain are exempt from my contrition.
I would caution, however, that those who read my words do so against the backdrop of my entire post. To experience knee-jerk outrage over a single hot-button word puts one squarely in Karl Rove’s target audience.
March 21st, 2007 at 11:54 amThis is more of the same check it out….More from WaPo:
Sharon Eubanks said Bush loyalists in Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ office began micromanaging the team’s strategy in the final weeks of the 2005 trial, to the detriment of the government’s claim that the industry had conspired to lie to U.S. smokers.
She said a supervisor demanded that she and her trial team drop arguments that tobacco executives be removed from their corporate positions as a possible penalty. He and two others instructed her to tell key witnesses to change their testimony. And they ordered Eubanks to read verbatim from a closing argument they rewrote for her, she said.
“The political people were pushing the buttons and ordering us to say what we said,” Eubanks said. “And because of that, we failed to zealously represent the interests of the American public.”
Eubanks, who served for 22 years as a lawyer at Justice, said three political appointees were responsible for the last-minute shifts in the government’s tobacco case in June 2005: then-Associate Attorney General Robert McCallum, then-Assistant Attorney General Peter Keisler, and his deputy at the time, Dan Meron.
Do you believe this shit?
End result:
News reports on the strategy changes at the time caused an uproar in Congress and sparked an inquiry by the Justice Department. Government witnesses said they had been asked to change testimony and one expert withdrew from the case. Government lawyers also announced that they were scaling back a proposed penalty against the industry from $130 billion to $10 billion.
Was this the big enchillada they were trying to hide?
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:45 amIt is pretty GOD DAMNED BIG!
If there is more, OMG.
I can’t wait to hear it.
This showdown is REAL, and it is a REAL constitutional crisis.
To me, this is looking more significant than Watergate.
EAT it trolls
[…] recently dismissed Palast’s reporting in a radio interview. “I’m intimately familiar with [Palast’s] allegations. That is a web article […]
March 26th, 2007 at 2:40 pmSo, where are the emails that were erroneously sent? We could sure use those surfacing right about now. Also, has anyone thought to fully look into the pasts and track records of the other replacement attorneys? I’m extremely interested to see what comes to the surface when inquiries are made regarding the newbies.
Without doubt, at least some if not all have some past history of being hacks and thugs. Why would Bu$h change course here and now, afterall? It is what he is, it’s all he’s ever hired, it’s all he’s ever known.
Gonzalez needs to be impeached, then his boss and his boss’s boss (Bu$h and Cheney respectively) so that this country can get on with the healing and reparations that are going to last for GENERATIONS.
IMPEACH!
INVESTIGATE
INDICT
IMPRISON BU$H, CHENEY, RICE, GONZO et.al.
PELOSI IN ‘07!
siri
March 26th, 2007 at 10:57 pmSovereign Citizen of the Former United States of America
The only problem with the reporting of this story is that it keeps referring to the disenfranchisement of Black voters. Although that is quite true, the fact is that what these people are doing is disenfranchising ALL Democrats, regardless of their color.
March 27th, 2007 at 3:00 pm[…] Harriet Miers. Indeed, the candidate proposed to replace a U.S. Attorney fired in Arkansas was a aide to, and protege of, Mr. Rove — with relatively little prosecutorial experience, but plenty of experience in […]
March 28th, 2007 at 5:28 pm[…] But a new e-mail released to the House Judiciary Committee shows that on Jan. 9, 2006 — a year before the prosecutors were fired — Sampson recommended replacements for almost every one of the U.S. attorneys on the administration’s hit list, suggesting that these prosecutors were fired to make way for partisan loyalists. […]
April 13th, 2007 at 5:35 pm