Walter Reed Whitewash: Kiley Replacement ‘Demoralizing’ To Hospital Staff
Walter Reed Whitewash: Kiley Replacement ‘Demoralizing’ To Hospital Staff
Yesterday’s management shake-up at Walter Reed looks increasingly suspect. The Washington Post reports today that the hospital chief who was relieved of duty, Army Maj. Gen. George W. Weightman, is “well respected in the military medical community and well liked among the staff at Walter Reed.” He had been at the hospital for just half a year, and “instituted some changes to improve outpatient care.”
Weightman is being replaced for now by Army surgeon general Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley. As ThinkProgress documented yesterday, Kiley has known for years about the neglect and deplorable conditions at Walter Reed. Kiley was personally told about injured veterans who were “languishing and lost on the grounds,” sharing drugs and “drinking themselves to death,” and reportedly did nothing to address the problems. In one stunning case, Kiley took no action when personally informed that a soldier was sleeping in his own urine.
The Post today cites a defense official saying that Weightman’s firing and his replacement by Kiley “are likely to be demoralizing to the staff at the medical center.” The L.A. Times says Kiley may still be fired:
One military official said the Army was continuing to examine Kiley’s oversight of Walter Reed to determine whether he knew of the problems in the outpatient facilities.
“Those questions are being looked at,” said the official, who spoke on condition on anonymity. “Is this it? We don’t know. Potentially, there could be other heads that roll.”
But in the meantime, why would this man with a long record of neglect be placed back in charge of Walter Reed? The Post’s answer: because “the Army’s reshuffle is really about projecting the appearance of accountability, not punishing those most responsible.”
UPDATE: Both Kiley and Weightman have been called to testify at a hearing on Monday of the House Oversight and Government Reform national security subcommittee. Details HERE.
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Typical of the Bush. Those that speak out and complain get shafted like Valerie Plame.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:58 amKily is an OB/GYN. What the hell is he doing heading a Veteran's Hospital anyway? Unless, of course, there are a few more hysterectomies than we know about going on.
http://www.armymedicine.army.mil/leaders/kiley.html
Kiley is a graduate of the University of Scranton, with a bachelor's degree in biology. He received his medical degree from Georgetown University School of Medicine, Washington D.C. He served a surgical internship and then an obstetrics and gynecology residency at William Beaumont Army Medical Center, El Paso, Texas.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 amCan you say 'Afghanistan,' 'Iraq,' 'Katrina,' and any number of other triumphs of the current WH administration? Don't do anything correctly, do something to suppress the bad news and claim that the problem is being solved.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 amSounds like a typical Bush plan. "doin a heck uv a job Kelly"
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 amThis reminds me of when the Army Reserve general running Abu Ghraib was relieved of command, only to be replaced by Major General Geoffrey Miller, who was running Gitmo at the time. From the beginning Abu Ghraib had been set up under Miller's direction in a way that abridged the chain of command and allowed civilians (read CIA thugs) to run loose at the prison.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 amOops "Kiley". my bad.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 amLast one didn't take, and if it did, oh, well.
F*CK THE STAFF.
This kind of "treatment" is demoralizing to the PATIENTS! You know, the ones that are supposed to be taken care of. Fire all the staff and replace them with people that care
I say again, F*CK THE STAFF.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 amThose Republicans sure know how to support the troops.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 amI sure hope now that congress nows what is going on there, they will step in and finally fix these problems. Not taking care of our vets looked bad on the repugs when they were in control and look just as bad on the new leadership. I certainly hope the Dems will fix these problems ASAP if they want to have any chance at winning in 08'. Currently, all problems with lack of readiness, bad health care, etc. are the fault of the Dems as they are in charge. I hope they realize that.
They should as supporters like TP are even starting to point out their shortfalls. It never looks good when your own side turns on you and starts pointing out how bad your doing. Wake out Dems, get your act together already. You have been in power for just a few months and everything is going bad this fast! The Repugs where in power for over 8 years and it took the Dems a mere few months to wreck the Militaries best Hospital. That is uncalled for and wrong!
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 amI say again, F*CK THE STAFF.
Comment by hacker bob
You got there before I did, Robert.
Right now, my only concern is for the patients. Imagine how demoralized they are.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 am#7 hacker bob
This kind of “treatment†is demoralizing to the PATIENTS! You know, the ones that are supposed to be taken care of. Fire all the staff and replace them with people that care
Good luck finding replacements. The good ones probably will leave on their own anyway.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Not really one for reading comprehension, are you, Roger?
From the text of the story (emphasis mine):
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 am
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 10:31 am
Sorry, Rog, Gotta' differ with you. This is a problem that has taken YEARS to get this bad.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 amThe Repugs where in power for over 8 years and it took the Dems a mere few months to wreck the Militaries best Hospital. That is uncalled for and wrong!
Comment by Roger_Roger
Get bent, you moron.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 am#9 Roger_Roger
I sure hope now that congress nows what is going on there, they will step in and finally fix these problems. Not taking care of our vets looked bad on the repugs when they were in control and look just as bad on the new leadership. I certainly hope the Dems will fix these problems ASAP if they want to have any chance at winning in 08′. Currently, all problems with lack of readiness, bad health care, etc. are the fault of the Dems as they are in charge. I hope they realize that.
You started off well, but then you went downhill from there. Fixing the problems is now the responsibility of the Dems. But, you can't say these problems are their fault. That's nonsense. These problem were known for at least the past three years. To their credit, Rep. Young (R-FL) and his wife made a stink about it at Walter Reed a couple of years ago, but it ended there. Young could have started the ball rolling in Congress to do the same the the Dems are doing right now. But, no action was taken. Suck it up and give credit where credit is due, Roger. You don't have to like the Dems, but at least admit that the problem is finally being addressed by them and it wasn't when the GOP was in control.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:41 amThe Repugs where in power for over 8 years and it took the Dems a mere few months to wreck the Militaries best Hospital. That is uncalled for and wrong!
Comment by Roger_Roger
Are you arguing that there were no such problems at the VA before January 20 of this year?
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 amexactly like i posted yesterday after hearing of weightman's axing...
And, yes, I DO take it personally
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 amOf course, Rogerx2 is always looking to the Democrats to fix problems created by the Republicans. Phew, in Roger's eyes, if it weren't for the Democrats saving our a$$es, this country would really be in the shitter.
Thanks, Roger, for again pointing out that the only people in Washington that know how to lead are the Democrats.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 am#13 I am sure the problems started to build, but this is the first congress ever knew about it. Being that this is the first they new about it, it is NOW that they need to act to fix it. Every day that goes by just makes it worse for our Dem leaders. It is there job to fix it. Currently, all I see them doing to the finger pointing game. that is sad since no one can fix this problem other then Pelosi and the Dems under her. They complain about combat readiness yet want to cut funding for the troops. All these issue are what congress is elected to fix and mantain. It is damn sad they can't even do this easy part of there job.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:48 amLol Roger is trying to put all the blame for the conditions at Walter Reed hospital on the Democrats, but it is the Bush Regime that caused neglect.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:49 am#15 The problem isn't the Dems fault, but the fact they haven't fixed the problem is. When the problem happened no one cares about. What we do care about is when and how are you going to fix it. Currently, they are doing the finger pointing game which is sad. They should be up 24 hours a day 7 days a week fixing it yet they aren't. Hell, what ever happened to Pelosi's 5 day work week. Currently, they struggle to work 3 a week.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 amPoor R.R. he can't help it, short memory and working for the pimp in charge king George has left him brain dead and heartless....Huge Blessings poor dear...
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 am#22 So your saying that the Dems won't fix the problem? That is more sad then the army men and women who created the problem in the first place. Where is the leadership.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
That's your defense of the 109th Congress? They didn't know about it?
Besides being patently stupid, your 'explanation' is also, unfortunately, a complete lie. From an article in the Washington Post:
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:57 am
Disrespect for everyone, that is what the Bush administration is all about.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:57 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
WRONG, Roger. That's part of something called 'accountability', and while I know that Repugs are strangers to the term, it's something Progressives care about quite a bit.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 am#24 You proved once again that the soldiers in charge of Walter Reed failed at there job. It is very sad and obviously needs to attention of Congress. We can obviously blame the commanders at Walter Reed for the problems, but we need to push on the Dem leaders to now fix the problems.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Where exactly did Sharon say that? Can you provide a quote?
Sheesh, Roger...if you're going to build straw men, at least take the time to make sure they're capable of standing before you knock them down
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 amCome on, there must be something, SOMETHING, that the Bush administration can do competently. Where they actually accomplish something for the public good. Can't think of an example at the moment.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 am#26 What I meant was no one cares, in the general public, when some military commanders screwed up there job. This stuff is a military matter and thef act that some soldier messed up his job years ago isn't much of a story. The only story left is the fact congress has yet to act and fix the problems these soldiers created.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:04 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
You dolt...did you even read the quote? It shows quite clearly that your defense of 'the Repubs didn't know about the problem' is false. They knew full well what was going on at Walter Reed, but chose to let the veterans suffer. How do you respond to this?
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Wrong again, Roger. Those of us who value accountability care quite a bit.
If it's 'not much of a story', then why is it in the headlines?
As I pointed out previously, the previous congress was well aware of the appalling conditions at Walter Reed, and chose not to act. Quit trying to whitewash over their culpability in this matter...it's not working.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 amLies, lies, whitewash and lies. I am tired of trying to be rational and "work with the system". They're most all a bunch of human waste bags that don't deserve the common respect one might show a cockroach. GOP should change it's name to PAW: pimps and whores.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 amclb72 sez:
This administration is quite competent. They've managed to accomplish several of their objectives, including:
They're frighteningly competent at accomplishing their agenda.
They're neocons, clb72. They don't do "public good".
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 am#31 One congressmen knew about some of the problem, but did he tell anyone else? Please provide evidence of that. Furthermore, the Repugs aren't to blame, it is the soldiers in charge of Walter Reed that bear the blame. Congress doesn't generally sit at the hospital and monitor it. Now that we have documented evidence that these soldiers didn't do there job, it is time to act. Congress can now step in and provide the neccesary funding and oversight. I just pray they start doing there job and get it done. In the end, this is just more evidence that no one should want government to run health care. It scares the shit out of me and hopefully every American.
If this story did anything, it pushed the idea of government run health care out the door for at least another 4-10 years. We can only hope longer.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 amI’ve wondered for some time but am now absolutely, beyond a doubt convinced. Roger_Roger is a parody troll. Even the far-right whack job posters on conservative sites don’t go this far in defending the indefensible.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 amRoger go to Chile, or another nation like that, since they have ZERO health care except for the wealthy elite.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 am#21 Roger_Roger
Roger, read the following article. It's in the Army Times, no less. The Dems ARE doing something about it. You can't possibly be serious that after two months in the majority tha Dems should have fixed a problem that was brewing and ignored while the GOP was in power for years. Get serious.
Bill would reform treatment of wounded vets
In the wake of the continuing scandal over the housing and medical evaluation process for wounded service members at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, House and Senate Democrats have unveiled a sweeping bill promising comprehensive reforms of how combat veterans and their families are treated.
Called the Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act, the bill would mandate housing standards for the wounded, overhaul disability review boards, require one caseworker for every 20 recovering service members, extend job protections for service members to include family members who are at their side during recovery, demand that an ombudsmen be available around the clock by phone and in any hospital with more than 100 patients, and create a new independent oversight board to monitor how recovering service members are treated.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 am...
Roger_Rhetoric sez:
Nice attempt at a dodge, Slappy, but no joy. It's an established fact that Rep. Young knew of the problem, and, assuming he somehow kept it a complete secret from his fellow congresspeople, and, also, no one else in Congress found out about the issue themselves (both fantastically improbable), then the 109th Congress is still culpable, since one of its members had the information and failed to act. Period.
OK...let me get this straight...the soldiers are to blame when the Repugs are in control of Congress, but now that the Dems are in control, it's the fault of Congress?
Roger, how do you keep the cognitive dissonance from scrambling your brains?
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 am#38 I like that bill and I hope they pass it quickly. I fully support the Dems on there quest to clean up the militaries mess.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 am#39 The problem isn't the Dems fault at all. The Dems problem is the speed that they are fixing it. This story came to light for the first time weeks ago and we are just now seeing the start of a potential bill. They are currently working 2-3 days a week while problems like this are out there. So, Walter Reed itself is no ones fault accept the soldiers in charge. The problem for the Dems is their lack of work ethic while the readiness of our troops is in question and our vets hospitals needs attention. It is creepy how lazy they are.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amSounds like Bush and Co. are making a bad situation even worse. Do I detect a pattern here?
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 am#35 Roger_Roger
#31 One congressmen knew about some of the problem, but did he tell anyone else? Please provide evidence of that. Furthermore, the Repugs aren’t to blame, it is the soldiers in charge of Walter Reed that bear the blame.
Here you go. The link and a snippet are below. It was in yesterday's Washington Post. Please read the whole article, too. And how can you say it's the Dems fault now, but "the Repugs aren’t to blame"? Be consistent.
Hospital Officials Knew of Neglect
Complaints About Walter Reed Were Voiced for Years
...
In 2004, Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and his wife stopped visiting the wounded at Walter Reed out of frustration. Young said he voiced concerns to commanders over troubling incidents he witnessed but was rebuffed or ignored. "When Bev or I would bring problems to the attention of authorities of Walter Reed, we were made to feel very uncomfortable," said Young, who began visiting the wounded recuperating at other facilities.
Beverly Young said she complained to Kiley several times. She once visited a soldier who was lying in urine on his mattress pad in the hospital. When a nurse ignored her, Young said, "I went flying down to Kevin Kiley's office again, and got nowhere. He has skirted this stuff for five years and blamed everyone else."
Young said that even after Kiley left Walter Reed to become the Army's surgeon general, "if anything could have been done to correct problems, he could have done it."
Soldiers and family members say their complaints have been ignored by commanders at many levels.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 am...
I hate when I forget to close a tag.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Yes, of course...unless, of course, you consider that the 109th congress knew about this problem for years prior to this. When you consider that, your argument (like most of your arguments) falls apart.
WRONG, Roger. The 109th Congress is also culpable, despite your best efforts to exonerate them.
That's quite amusing, considering how the 109th Congress worked a grand total of 103 days, and how the Dems are being painted as 'anti-family' for insisting on a five-day work week. You really are quite droll, Roger.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 am#45
So it is ok for the Dems to not fix problems and work at a very slow pace only 2 days a week because some congress in the past worked like that? That is like saying it is ok to commit murder because Ted Bundy did.
The Dems have no excuse. I, like most Americans, do not want to hear some lame excuse. We don't care care that the old congress was lazy. That doesn't give them the right to also be lazy. We are at war in Iraq and are preparing for a new war with Iran. Our troops deserve better then this. The old congress got voted out of office because their behavior was unacceptable. We voted the Dems into power because they said they wouldn't be so lazy. They said they cared about the troops. Well, now is a critical time. They need to start working the 5 days a week like they talked about instead of the 2-3 days they work right now. They need to provide the funding and resources our troops need RIGHT NOW so combat readiness is not an issue. They also need to pass any bills needed to fix the medical issues the military is having.
The blame game is nice, but right now we are in a war and preparing for another one. It is time the Dems prove they can lead. It is time they provide our troops with all the resources and funding they need so they are ready when they go over to Iraq and when they start the war with Iran. When they get hurt today, they are relying on the Dems for the resources, funding, and oversite to fix them.
All we ask is 5 days a week of work and their full attention to fixing these 2 problems. Can they do it or do they simply want to keep arguing about he said she said crap?
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 pmRoger is here to de-rail the discussion.
Anywho,
Its obvious who cares about injured troops more. There really is no debate on the subject. Its all spin at this point.
I don't like either party, I just tolerate the Dems more. Repubs are the new facsists.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 pmThey should be up 24 hours a day 7 days a week fixing it yet they aren’t. Comment by Roger_Roger
It's YOUR Republican congressmen that WHINED and CRIED when they were told they'd be asked to work 5 days a week. They have such difficult lives! What a bunch of weak leaders you folks have.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 pm#45 Feel free to point out the obvious all you want. The 109th isn't in power. The American people voted them out because of their laziness and lack of leadership. The problem I and most americans have today is that the 110th is looking just like the 109th. It is shameful in a time of war that they cannot provide the rosources and funding our troops need.
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March 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 pm#48 I agree with you 100%. The repugs whining about working 5 days a week should be asked to leave washington and never come back. Furthermore, any speaker that tolerates and allows congress to not work a 5 day week minimum should lose their job. Hasert should have been let go and so should Pelosi. She in many ways is worse. She came out and said they would work 5 days a week. That turned out to be a lie as they never work more then 3. At least Hasert never lied about being lazy. Pelosi lied and is lazy. Both are worthless and evil IMO.
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#52 Anyone promoting our military men and women to go AWOL should be locked up.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 pmBoy-o-boy,
When Bushiva makes a mess...
...it spreads rather quickly...
...like a California brush fire...
...fanned by the Santa Ana winds...
...I wonder what's next?
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmAnyone promoting our military men and women to go AWOL should be locked up.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Lock me up, Dung_Dung. I'd like to see you try.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:19 pm[...] also claimed the replacement of Maj. Gen. George Weightman with Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley at Walter Reed was “a good first [...]
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 pmTrying to blame this on Democrats is laughable. If the Washington Post had written this article 6 months ago, do you think there would be any hearings? The reason Walter Reed sucks is clearly an executive branch failure.
It's about as good an argument as blaming Congress for not having a plan to turn Iraq back into the Garden of Eden after Bush screwed it up so badly. Hail to the buck-passing chief.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 pmRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Anyone threatening to lock up someone for exercising their First Amendment rights does not belong in this country.
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 pmCan't they find someone who actually GIVES A SHIT about the troops to oversee this fiasco?
March 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 pmWhat about the good 'ole days when, if a President wasn't popular, he was... vaccinated and shot full of... rough language? I hope everyone is pestering thier respective Congresspeople.
March 2nd, 2007 at 1:08 pm[...] Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley, the Army’s top medical official, was appointed acting head of Walter Reed hospital. As ThinkProgress documented yesterday, Kiley has known for years about the neglect and deplorable [...]
March 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 pmActually somebody is doing something constructive about the problem at Walter Reed.The Joint Commission on Hospital Accreditation has made an unannounced inspection of this facility.This group can pull their accreditation as a hospital on them.Try hiring civilian doctors to a non-accredited hospital. Also this group can go anywhere in the hospital to investigate any problems. If the Army tries to bar them from a specific area they can just fail that area.
March 2nd, 2007 at 1:20 pm#57 It is not a first amendment right to commit and promote crimes, especially felonies. If I promoted and aided someone in killing you, I would go to jail. The same should work for those promoting and aiding those that decide to go AWOL. Both are serious crimes. Going AWOL in many ways is more serious as you are endangering all of America.
March 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmOdd how these thing's go....Being AWOL in an illegal war started by lies is indeed odd....The report's out last month was as many as 40,000 us troop's may be AWOL...Last week the military's admission was 8,000 troop's are AWOL...Well maybe people don't want to die for bush's/ cheney's oil any more...Do ya all think maybe.? "War" what's it good for, absolutely nothing.. Blessings
March 2nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmPlease forgive me I forgot the most important thing...The biggest danger America has at the present time is the enemy's in the present administration...They have incited the world against us because of their unjust war on Iraq, impending war on Iran and Syria...And BenLaden is where.?...Blessings.
March 2nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmWhile it is now necessary for the relevant Congressional committees to hold hearings and come up with solutions to this problem at the military hospitals (Walter Reed is NOT a VA facility), running a facility efficiently and humanely is NOT the work of Congress but of those appointed as Medical Director, Director of Nursing, Director of Social Services etc. That Kiley is an OBGYN is immaterial as he is not practicing medicine at Walter Reed or anywhere else. He is an Administrator. He could be a great M.D. but can he MANAGE the organization? Someone must. ANd Congress is not there to micromanage every governmental entity. Management problems cannot be legislated away.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmCan we MAKE Kiley, Weightman, CHIMPya, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Gonzales, all neocons, and all of Bushland Uber Allies clean the soiled sheets of all the urine that poor serviceman was lying in WITH THEIR FILTHY LYING FLAPPING TONGUES? LICK THAT PISS OFF UNTIL THAT SHEET SHINES, YOU CREEPS!!!!!
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmSharon,
You can certainly ask your Dem leaders to end this war and you can ask why Clinton and most others voted to ok the war using the same intelligence England, our President, and the UN had. You can even freely call this war illegal and use all kinds of other none sense as well. We live in the free country. I still think it is wrong to promote crimes, especailly crimes that could potentially hurt our countries security. Your response will probably be some drivel about how the war is a crime, blah blah. That is a fine opinion, but currently the war is completely legal as congress autherized it. You want a new label, go ask your Dem leaders why they still support this war with funding. Ask them why they haven't done any meaningful thing to end it. Either way, do something constructive that doesn't promote crimes IMO.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:43 pmYour response will probably be some drivel about how the war is a crime, blah blah. That is a fine opinion, but currently the war is completely legal as congress autherized it. 66. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
If congress was lied to, they didn't authorize anything - but bush is Impeachable. You might also want to learn how to spell 'nonsense', you st*pid old fool.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:48 pm[...] god something nice is finally being done for the wounded at walter [...]
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pm#67 If congress was lied to, so was our President. Unless you are suggesting he had more intel then them. I haven't seen any valid proof of that however. IF everyone was lied to, who was the lier? Before you answer, please provide difinetive proof. Furthermore, why the hell aren't the Dem leaders now in power doing something about this if they truly were lied to? They can stop this war anytime they want by completely defunding it alone with a host of other things. They currently continue to approve Bush's funding and haven't even brought up the notion in any legal sense about a lie. THey infer it and talk about it on TV, but that is far from doing anything about it.
Honestly, it is retarded for them to not do something about ASAP if they had any proof. They would not be fullfilling their duty as congress to let that slide.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 pm#67 If congress was lied to, so was our President. Unless you are suggesting he had more intel then them. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
It's an established fact that the executive branch had different intel than was available to Congress. It's an established fact that the executive branch told the pentagon how to shape the intel.
I haven’t seen any valid proof of that however. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
By 'valid', you mean proof that you're willing to believe of course. That's just because you're a st*pid c*nt, and not because there isn't proof.
IF everyone was lied to, who was the lier? Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
The strawman of a st*pid c*nt. PNAC wanted to shape intelligence, and Bush saw to it that they did.
Before you answer, please provide difinetive proof. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
That was given long ago, you're just too st*pid to admit it.
Furthermore, why the hell aren’t the Dem leaders now in power doing something about this if they truly were lied to? Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
They are, that's why they're beginning to pull the reigns on you fcukheads on Iran.
They can stop this war anytime they want by completely defunding it alone with a host of other things. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
And make soldiers pay for the arrogance of fcukheads like you and bush? Only you guys are that immoral and hateful - fcukhead.
They currently continue to approve Bush’s funding and haven’t even brought up the notion in any legal sense about a lie. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
To the contrary - several have already spoken out about this.
THey infer it and talk about it on TV, but that is far from doing anything about it. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
As you contradict your 'previous' lie that they don't bring it up. St*pid fcukhead.
Honestly, it is retarded for them to not do something about ASAP if they had any proof. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
What's retarded is people like you that think we'd impeach a president so near an election. As for investigations - don't worry. As 2008 approaches, you'll get plenty of embarrassing revelations - fcukhead.
They would not be fullfilling their duty as congress to let that slide. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
The duty of Congress is to do what's best for the country - fcukhead. Your beliefs are as relevant as your st*pid opinion on everything. You're just an old st*pid c*nt - loser.
March 3rd, 2007 at 1:43 amValiantVenusGrewFromUranus,
Actually, you need to reread my post and carefully try to understand the words. I clearly said that your leaders on the Dem side are good about "speaking out" against the war. The problem is that doesn't mean a thing. Furthermore, Obama, Clinton, and a host of others have publicly said (this week) that they would not cut funding for the war. Obama even called Iran the biggest threat to America and neither him nor Clinton will take the military card off the table against Iran.
If what you say is so true, why are your Dem leaders not jumping into action. I honestly want an answer. If they have proof they were lied to, why are they not impeaching the liers? Why haven't they stopped this war? Why are they not saying we can't attack Iran? Currently, they have simply said they want to give approval to attack Iran and they are very open that they will give approval if Iran continues to enrich Uranium. Obama and Clinton have both said we cannot allow them to continue to enrich Uranium and the military option is on the table to stop them. How do you square all that?
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Conservatives despise out troops--Except when they're dead;Then, they don't cost any more tax dollar$.
Conservatives: You Suck!
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Interestingly, this was on CNN last week.
March 29th, 2008 at 4:15 pmGarden Centers
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