Norquist Plans Conservative Agenda: Learn To Belly Dance, Golf, And ‘Say No, No, No, No For 2 Years’
Norquist Plans Conservative Agenda: Learn To Belly Dance, Golf, And ‘Say No, No, No, No For 2 Years’
At the Conservative Political Action Conference yesterday, right-wing activist and anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist urged conservatives not to work to accomplish anything in the current Congress.
“Get married, develop a hobby, learn to belly dance, learn to golf — you know, we got two years free, but we gotta spend time and effort playing defense here,” Norquist said. “Our job is to say ‘no, no, no, no’ for two years.”
Norquist predicted, “People are gonna go, ‘oh maybe this bill isn’t as bad as it looks.’” But he warned, ” Don’t eat it, don’t swallow it, don’t touch it. Nothing good passes this Congress.” Watch it:
Transcript:
NORQUIST:Nothing good happens in the next two years out of this Congress. Nothing good.
If you read in the newspaper that there’s a bill with a nice sounding name, and it sounds in the first sentence like the bill is good, you haven’t read the whole bill.
Nothing good happens. They’re not going to cut taxes.
(APPLAUSE)
Look, get married, develop a hobby, learn to belly dance, learn to golf — you know, we got two years free, but we gotta spend some time and effort playing defense here.
Because the Democrats are going to be like young men on prom dates — they’re gonna keep asking the same question of us over and over and over again. And our job is to say “no, no, no, no” for two years.
It doesn’t do us any good to go “no, no, yes” okay? It has to be “no” for two years in a row. It’s going to be tiresome, it’s going to be boring. People are gonna go, “oh maybe this bill isn’t as bad as it looks.” Don’t eat it, don’t swallow it, don’t touch it. Nothing good passes this Congress.
Plan for the future and read novels.
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Spite is a wonderful governing philosophy.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmHere’s a better suggestion: SIT DOWN, SHUT THE F**K UP AND STAY OUT OF THE WAY.
Got it, GOP?
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 pmGrover Norquist belongs in prison.
Decon.
It kills the 2 legged rats. Republicrats.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmWell gosh, the rubber-stampers didn’t doing anything for 6 years and now Norquist recommends they sit on their fat old asses for 2 more years, doing nothing. Why should voters elect these do nothing republicans?
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:12 pm…..but that’s not “obstructionism”, is it grover…..
everyone should forward his remarks to their Democratic Senators and Congresspersons, and insist that they respond with what exactly they’re going to do about this kind of treasonous garbage.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:14 pm“Nothing good passes this Congress.â€
Actually, it should be “Nothing good passed this PAST Congress.â€
It was the American people that got tired of the lies and “culture of corruption” that the Republicans brought with them and voted them the h3@$ out of office!
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmw o w … just another w o w …
oh, and decon, i really like that: republicRATS…
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmAnd after two years there won’t be but a few jerk republicans in office so it will be a moot point Grover.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:16 pmwhat a stupid, infantile c*nt.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:16 pmThis comment won’t make it through, and if so I’m okay with that…I just need to get it off my chest: what an unadulterated PRICK!
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmGrover Norquist is the guy who wanted to drown the Federal government in a bathtub.
Sounds like TREASON to me. Get a rope.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmThe new GOP lament: (adapted from “Hee Haw!”)
Gloom, dispair, and agony on me. (Whooooaaaa!)
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmDeep down depression, excessive misery! (Whooooaaaa!)
If it weren’t for corruption, I’d have no funds at all! (Whooooaaaa!)
Gloom, dispair, and minority status on me!
Fortunately, the little power Grover and his flunkies had during the early Bush administration years is falling through his greasy little hands. How does a guy like this make enough money to pay his mortgage, let alone have so much power in the minds of the gullible Conservatives?
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmSo Grover’s message to Americans is “We will do nothing good.” Seems like that has been the Republicans’ governing philosophy for the past six years too.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmSurely no one is surprised at this divisive strategy…
…the Repulsivescum have been the enemy of government from the day they gained control of all FOUR branches…
…they have no vested interest in seeing the government work for the people because…
…they realize that the people have been STUPID enough to blame EVERYTHING Repulsivescum conned’self-servatives have botched…
…on Democrats…
…and the Democrats have been too civil and collegial (playing under the OLD pre-Bush/Cheney Congressional playbook)…
…to call the Repulsivescum out on their criminality and TREASON…
…maybe because the Democrats have skeletons THEY don’t want the Repulsivescum to reveal to the DUHmerican public…
…at any rate…
…for now- without that 60 vote margin- it’s a stalemate…
…hopefully the Democrats can put enough pressure on the corporate controlled media…
… to articulate to the DUHmericans how EVIL and TREASONOUS the conned’self-servatives REALLY are…
…and take back the WH, control of BOTH houses of Congress, and the people’s airwaves in ‘08…
…THEN and only then will…
IMPEACH
INCARCERATE and
IMPOVERISH
…be possible…
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmIf I didn’t know better… I’d think that sounded a lot like “obstructionism”.
But that couldn’t be. Republicans USED to consider “obstructionism” as Unamerican, right? Can someone check on that for me?
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmGrover Norquist hates everything in this country except money, and people with money.
He deserves to be in stocks, and people working 3 minimum wage jobs can take turns throwing rotten tomatoes at him, and kicking him the ass.
He’d cry like a motherless baby.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmVery Telling. The attitude of a true obstructionist.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmWow …
You know, as disgusting as Norquist’s suggestion is, if he thinks blocking legislation that helps average Americans is going to help the GOP, he has got to be the worst political consultant since Rasputin.
Let them try to stop these bills, and watch the Dems make HUGE gains in 2008.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmHow did Grover not find himself in jail for his ties to Abramoff? Melanie Sloan I’m looking at you :)
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmNorquist should be dropped in the middle of Iraq, completely naked wearing just two wooden signs that read “I hate Iraqi’s” on one side and “Bush is my lover” on the other. Let’s see his fat ass try to get out of that one.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmWhy do Republicans hate America? They should go back to where they came from.
(under a rock, I mean)
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmWarning admitted Snarky comment:
Perhaps in the next election, we can shrink the size of the Republican Party in Congress so we can drown it in a Bathtub.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmwill some not as yet fired US Attorney please look in to this fellows tax evasion? we’d appreciate it. thanks
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pm#15 May I just say I love you big papa
You always know how to say it so perfect…. I enjoy reading your responses.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:43 pm“Nothing good passes this Congress”
Oh. You mean, business as usual as it was over the past 2 years.
Should be easy enough to do. The Reps have a lot of practice at it.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmwhat do you call a conservative republikkklan at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmSo the culture of corruption and do nothing-ness continues. They must not want to regain power.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pm#27
Hahahahahahahaha
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmShawn - don’t give up hope - Abramhoff is still talking - his sentencing for the second set of crimes was just put off for six months while he testifies. I fully believe Grover will be doing time within the next few years. He should spend the next two years lining up people who will keep his commisary account full once he gets there.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmHello stunning Cory,
Good one.
What do you call a busload of Republicans going over a cliff with an empty seat?
A crying shame. :-D
To answer your question from the other night — Sociology. My liberal heart bleeds….
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmIts funny how Clinton gets impeached for a blowjob, but these traitors and criminals are getting away with murder. Chimpy is running the most corrupt and criminal regime in the nation’s history and we will be lucky to survive it.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmParty before people. Gee, where has that philosophy been applied before (and before, etc…)?
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:54 pm#27 - Spoken with true-”blue” compassion! Just one question: IF the Dems are sooo GREAT, why are the cities they’ve been running for 50 years $h*th*les?
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:55 pmLet them try to stop these bills, and watch the Dems make HUGE gains in 2008.
Comment by Unholy Moses
He doesn’t care about the next election; he knows that with voters, his “brand” is now as popular as Peter Pan peanut butter. To regain control, rebranding the party from the rubberstamps they are now known as is essential - and obstructionism is the path to that goal. They’ve larded the various agencies with think-tankers who will stay on-message, and take every opportunity to monkey-wrench progressive programs, even politically popular ones, to regain eventual control. I think they’ll be even worse off, when the consequences of the Bush admin.’s short-sighted policies bear repugnant fruit.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pmThat pretty much firms it up. That bastard is a terrorist. I don’t know what affiliation he is, but one thing is certain, he hates America and is a spineless traitor that should be dragged before the public and flogged .
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:57 pmWhy are American cities falling apart? Its not the Democrats fault.
You Repukes all fled to the suburbs and wrecked the cities tax base.
Then you Repukes cut all the social programs to fund the Iraq mess.
Our decaying inner cities are the Repukes’ fault.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:58 pm#27 - Spoken with true-â€blue†compassion! Just one question: IF the Dems are sooo GREAT, why are the cities they’ve been running for 50 years $h*th*les?
Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
LOL you’ve just proven your ignorance right there. NYC a sh*thole? Guliani sold every square inch to ABC/Disney (and he was/is definitely more of a social Democrat/Liberal), but I would hardly call Bloomberg Republican. Bloomberg pretty much ran on the Republican ticket to get into office at the time, but every New Yorker knows he is a liberal democrat, just look at his record and you’ll see the truth (that is, if you can get away from your high profile law cases and family, being a 20 something high powered ex-military lawyer must be really challenging - :eye rolls: ).
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmWhat ever happened to the real trollers ?
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmLike IRI . . . BSR . . . NED . . . .
they must have cut a few jobs after the election.
Spoken with true-â€blue†compassion! Just one question: IF the Dems are sooo GREAT, why are the cities they’ve been running for 50 years $h*th*les?
Comment by valiant venus
Hagette,
Do tell us another charming story about your dead child; and another about your latest trial. Oh please….
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmRead the polls, Grover. Americans don’t want what you guys are selling. They DO want what the Dems are offering. If you try to block things that the Dems are trying to do for them, they’ll remember you in November ‘08. Didn’t you learn anything from losing both houses of Congress last November? My god are you Republicans thick.
By the way, Grover, aren’t you supposed to be under investigation for something? I think it was Abramoff-related, wasn’t it? Oh well, I hear Jack’s still singing like a canary. They’ll get around to you eventually.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmWhy do people continue to listen to this guy?
Is this just something they want to hear?
Their policies (and I use that term loosely) have proven worthless. We are in debt up to our eyebrows, the military is broken, the economy is on the edge of a cliff, health care is costing more and delivering less (funny, but I thought that “competition” was supposed to drive down costs!), and our standing in the world drops daily.
What part of reality don’t these people understand?
Oh, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight…
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:04 pmOne person blaming this or that on one party, another person blaming it on the other party. What a sad state of affairs.
No longer are any Americans responsible for anything because they can always blame it on the other “half”. Quite pathetic actually but does clearly answer the question so oft asked here: “How do they expect to get away with it?”
There is no “they”, only we.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:04 pmWhat’s interesting about ValientVenus’ comment is that the 1990’s witnessed a regentrifacation of many American urban strongholds. Having lived in Boston from 1998-2001, the South End and Back Bay (as well as Newbury St.) boomed, with Victorian Brickhouses and brownstones sky rocketing from worthless crack houses to multi-million dollar homes. Manhattan is another prime example, as area’s like the East Village (alphabet city), LES, and even up near Columbia I pass by area’s between the Morningside Campus on 116 St and the Medical School Campus on 164th St in Harlem and Spanish Harlem that are thriving and booming. Hell, even her “home city” of San Diego has seen a turn around with the Gas Light District. More importantly, Hillcrest neighborhood in San Diego turned around greatly due to the homosexual community’s investment and living. Further, the South End in Boston, Harlem and Lower East Side in Manhattan, West Hollywood in L.A. - all the neighborhoods that the homosexual community invested in have turned around into real estate gold mines. All good brokers know, as the running joke goes, if you want to follow the money, follow the gay community.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmWould someone please tell this doofus (Norquist) that his idiocy is showing - and showing badly! What I find fascinating is how these fools and nincompoops who are charlatans at best/criminals at worst but feign a modicum of dignity when in official positions allow their level of frustration at “losing control of the Congress” self-destruct so rapidly. Utterly amazing! How many is that now who have reduced their position and status to one of carnival-type chicanery? So many idiots to remove from office/so little time! ah yes!
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmAnother case of Grover groveling…..and ending up with his mind in the gutter.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pm27 - Spoken with true-â€blue†compassion! Just one question: IF the Dems are sooo GREAT, why are the cities they’ve been running for 50 years $h*th*les? Comment by valiant venus
Spoken like a misinformed troll, as usual. Remember that famous map after the 2004 elections that compared what states received from the federal government vis-a-vis what was paid in by those states? Almost without exception, Red states received more than they contributed. Blue states contributed more than they received. Lesson: Red states are sinkholes and run into the ground.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmWhy hasn’t this arrogant pig been indicted yet? He’s tied with Ralph Reed and Ney. Thanks to Gonzales the GOP syndicate continues sapping this country dry.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmPeople like him make me in favor of “extraordinary rendition,”…for people like him!
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmHey everyone, you’re missing the point.
No, no, no, no . . . .
Let’s see.
No to any more money for Bush’s war in Iraq.
No to any more money for Bush’s war to be in Iran.
No to any more money for Bush’s religious programs.
No to any more money for Bush’s friends in high places.
No to any more money for Bush for Halliburton.
No to any more money for Bush for the oil companies.
No to any more money for Bush for new defense systems.
It sounds good to me.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:09 pm#15 big papa: The only reason I can figure why the democrats won’t go after the criminal, treasonous neocons is that they are afraid of making waves with the very large corporations.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmThis man is a jackass. The Dems are completely capable of passing solid legislation. Of course you should say no if they try and pass some rediculous new tax that hurts American families, but that has always been the case. When they vote on things like more funds and equipment for out troops, I expect them to be voting yes to that. When they vote for minimum wage increase etc., they should be voting yes. Maybe just maybe the Dems will attemt to fix Social Security and Mediaid so it doesn’t bankrubt out country. I hope they work with them on that as well.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmIF the Dems are sooo GREAT, why are the cities they’ve been running for 50 years $h*th*les?
Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
A particularly tasty irony; Valiant is too afraid to go to Southeast San Diego at night, yet she rags on liberal cities. But where have the nutcase conflagrations occurred?
Waco Tx. - Conservative cowpatty that bred Koresh, the religiously inspired nutbar.
Oklahoma City - Red-necked capitol of conservative Heaven.
San Diego - Conservative military town, where crazed, meth-head ex-servicemen go on joy-rides in tanks (years ago), and people are chopped up, and left out in the open (days ago). Or stabbed by lunatics as they walk out of pharmacies, within blocks of several mental health facilities (weeks ago).
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmThis man is a jackass. The Dems are completely capable of passing solid legislation. Of course you should say no if they try and pass some rediculous new tax that hurts American families, but that has always been the case. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
So you say Norquist is a jackass, while you repeat his talking points. You’re a st*pid fcukhead Roger.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmShouldn’t this a**hole be in jail already?
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmMaybe just maybe the Dems will attemt to fix Social Security and Mediaid so it doesn’t bankrubt out country. I hope they work with them on that as well.
Comment by Roger_Roger
But didn’t you just say you were against tax increases?
That’s the only thing that will fix the system. That, and not spending the surplus on bullsh#t. Roger, I have yet to hear a conservative or libertarian honestly answer this: why does someone making a million dollars a year deserve a lower overall tax rate than someone making $90,000?
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:25 pmGrover Norquist tried to get married but his bride found out he was SEEING Gannon/Guckert ON THE SIDE, he took up a hobby, of TORTURING and KILLING SMALL DEFENSELESS ANIMALS UNTIL A RABID HAMSTER BIT HIM ON HIS NOSE, he tried to learn belly-dancing BUT THE PASTE GEM KEPT POPPING OUT OF HIS POT-BELLY, and tried to learn golf BUT THE IRATE American citizens KEPT SHOVING HIS OWN CLUBS UP HIS ANUS BECAUSE OF HIS VILE YAP–So, GIVE IT UP, Norquist, YOU REPULSIVE repugnant-repub, rightwingnut crank PIECE OF HYENA-SHIT!!!!!
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pmProgressives have been claiming “dissent is Patriotic” - but the truth is, while the dissent is protected speech - unless it inspired by a LOVE of country - it is NOT patriotic. For example, one member of “your side” shleps tee-shirts including the following:
United States of Canada T-Shirts
“In this t-shirt, the red states that voted for George Bush in the 2004 Presidential election are grouped together and just called Texas. The blue states and all of Canada are grouped together to form the United States of Canada. As the t-shirt implies, the values of blue staters are more in line with the equality that exists within Canada. The red states are more closely aligned with the close-minded values of the State of Texas. This shirt will get people to think that a separation is possible down the road. It may be funny today, but the country is becoming more and more splintered across party lines. Very few states changed colors from 2000 to 2004 and it doesn’t project to change much in the future.”
http://www.politicalcritic.com/shirts
(Pssst….Hope this mention helps you make a boatload of $$$$ - - with all those taxes and “freebies”, the cost lof living is higher in C’da.)
#50 - Dog - An Aside - What are you using, pedal power or MPBF - “Miles per Bare Feet”
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 pm#56 - ” (tax increases) - -That’s the only thing that will fix the system. ”
Spoken like a true Progressive!! Don’t even think about cutting spending!!
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:34 pm52 That’s the problem Rogerx2,
Your side of the aisle (of which Mr. Norquist is but ONE example) have repeatedly shown that they wont work with our side even on things that matter to the American people. Isn’t it funny that just a year ago, things like “obstructionism” and the filibuster were BAD things and, suddenly what’s good for the goose isn’t good for the gander? The hypocrisy is staggering!
I will agree with you on 1 thing though: Super grover is a jackass of the highest caliber.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:36 pmall the neighborhoods that the homosexual community invested in have turned around into real estate gold mines. All good brokers know, as the running joke goes, if you want to follow the money, follow the gay community. Comment by Cory
Interesting! In Columbus Ohio’s “Short North” a similar revival of a beautiful but run down area occurred with art galleries, boutiques, cafes, and the like as well as apartments. Much of it by the gay community.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:41 pm#56 - †(tax increases) - -That’s the only thing that will fix the system. †Spoken like a true Progressive!! Don’t even think about cutting spending!! Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Yeah, and you whine about not enough defense spending, even though the US spends as much money as the entire rest of the planet combined. You’re a st*pid c*nt aren’t you Nazi girl?
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:45 pmHe deserves to be in stocks, and people working 3 minimum wage jobs can take turns throwing rotten tomatoes at him…
Zooey, how ’bout changing rotten tomatoes to medical waste. Or just fling poo!
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:49 pmmighty valiant goddess wannabe
And how many of your side peddle t-shirts with the Confederate flag, honoring an actually seditious, treasonous history?
Just because you think you are the goddess of love, you have no power to know what is in the heart of us progressives and judge whether our dissent is based on love of country or not. It is because we say it is. You are not old enough, or rather mature enough, to comprehend deep, abiding, love that can include criticism. Your reliance on a fake biography while engaging in the democratic process of debate of issues, makes your love of country as superficial as a love affair with a person through computer contact only.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:50 pmZooey, how ’bout changing rotten tomatoes to medical waste. Or just fling poo!
Comment by JaneESchneider
I’m trying to clean up my act. Heh. It’s a long road….
Hey Jane, how’s it going? Say hi to Wayne for me, will you? We miss both of you around here.
March 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pm#58
Hmm.
Let’s see we should give taxpayer money to oil companies that are declaring the biggest profits ever made by a US company?
Gee, that seems like a great way to spend taxpayer money.
Oh, I know it’s for exploration. $60.00/barrel oil doesn’t give them enough incentives.
Of course the Bush family/Saudi oil connections have nothing to do with those decisions. Do they? It’s because it’s better for the country. Right?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 pmGOP Dream Team 08
Folley/Abramoff………a gay and a crook
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 pmGOP dream team will be crooks no matter who it is. Grover, what we see happening is part of his plan. This sack of frog s*** should be behind bars.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:04 pm#56 Surplus?
Using true accounting principles, Social Secuirty and medicare pur roughly $2-$3 trillion extra unpaid debt on the books each and every year. If you honestly want to not change a thing and just increase taxes, you are talking about roughly $10,000 extra for each and every household in America. Are you cool with that?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:06 pmThe Right is history–and they know it.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:07 pmDon’t even think about cutting spending!!
Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Don’t be silly - we’re all for cutting the spending on the occupation of Iraq…
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pmUsing true accounting principles, Social Secuirty and medicare pur roughly $2-$3 trillion extra unpaid debt on the books each and every year. If you honestly want to not change a thing and just increase taxes, you are talking about roughly $10,000 extra for each and every household in America. Are you cool with that? Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Bullsh*t. You’re lying, and you know it fcukhead. Prove your claims. The debt on the books come from spending Social Security money for other programs. You’re a st*pid c*nt - old (wo)man.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pmrogrog, if you don’t like how much you pay in taxes, there’s a real easy fix : get a job that pays less.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm#64 - Why talk about the United States of Canada when you can talk about the Confederate flag? (Hint - please tell me how patriotic those “blue staters” are!)
And I CAN picture you and cory, gentrifying the inner city. Psst…Cory - Where do you move the poor people when gays gentrify?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:11 pmThis is exactly what the democrats should have done when they had the chance. Yet their weak spines couldnt hold them up and so they got bent over.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:11 pmyou are talking about roughly $10,000 extra for each and every household in America. Are you cool with that?
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
How do you figure that?
Secondly, if the rich just paid their FAIR share instead of finding loopholes to get out of it, we wouldn’t need to raise anything. Close the loopholes and we won’t need to raise taxes.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:13 pmPsst…Cory - Where do you move the poor people when gays gentrify?
Comment by valiant venus
Hag, don’t even pretend to care about poor people.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:15 pm#64 - Why talk about the United States of Canada when you can talk about the Confederate flag? (Hint - please tell me how patriotic those “blue staters†are!) Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Patriotic or Nationalistic - Nazi-girl?
I explained the difference to you many times, but lets just say you and your fellow Nazis aren’t going to win any Nobel prizes!
And I CAN picture you and cory, gentrifying the inner city. Psst…Cory - Where do you move the poor people when gays gentrify? Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Where do you move to avoid poor people? You classist c*nt?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pmSo dear Mighty Aphrodite/valiant venus, Anorexic st*pid c*nt. You should invest in a dictionary. It will help you with your 3rd grade spelling, and lack of command of basic english.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:25 pmtaxophobics are the ultimate anti-patriots, and they know it. that’s what makes them so spiteful and defensive.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pmA Question for Prog Friends: Since the rich Pay MORE than their “fair share” could you at least say “thank you”.
Let’s cut pork barrel spending and end earmarks. I’m for helping folks who fall into bad luck or who are unable physically to work. I am not for breeding systemically unemployable people by a system best served with keeping people/costituents poor - where would the Dem Party be without tons of po’ people?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm#79 - Spoken like a guy without two cents to rub together or common sense to think things through. You might want to investigate why tax reductions yield more revenue.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:29 pm#80: F you, VV. I am richer than you. guaranteed. Are you going to thank me for paying more taxes than you?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:33 pmYou might want to investigate why tax reductions yield more revenue. Comment by valiant venus Another false statement from VV. Will she ever learn? Or ever read?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:35 pmtrickle down on someone else, detestable demeter - your aimless speculation as to my circumstances in life couldn’t be less relevant, or less accurate. it also confirms that I do know what drives your thinking, and the thinking of those like you, and it makes me sad, and it makes Jesus sad, too.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:35 pmA Question for Prog Friends: Since the rich Pay MORE than their “fair share†could you at least say “thank youâ€. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
You state that ‘opinion’, like it’s a fact. You haven’t established that the rich Pay MORE.
Let’s cut pork barrel spending and end earmarks. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Yeah, like you pork barrel republicans would ever support that! You’re such a Hypocrite you st*pid c*nt.
I’m for helping folks who fall into bad luck or who are unable physically to work. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
That should make it convenient for an Anorexic lazy c*nt like you!
I am not for breeding systemically unemployable people by a system best served with keeping people/costituents poor - where would the Dem Party be without tons of po’ people? Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Ah, the sort of KKK veiled racism we expect from a racist c*nt like you!
So by your definitions, the Bush’s should never breed again? I’m for that - st*pid c*nt!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:36 pm#79 - Spoken like a guy without two cents to rub together or common sense to think things through. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Spoken like a spoiled little st*pid c*nt that wouldn’t have two cents to rub together if her family didn’t have race, privilege and a ‘tribal-network’ to give her a job she doesn’t deserve.
You might want to investigate why tax reductions yield more revenue. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
More revenues? You might want to investigate why that isn’t true. St*pid c*nt!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:38 pm#84 - Thank you very f’ing much, Stupid!!! For your information, Stupid, more revenue IS collected when tax rates are reduced . This was especially true when the top tax rate went from 70% to 28% - now there was some business stimulus and investment going on!!
I figure you must be a trust-fund baby - you seem toooo Stupid to have earned your fabuloous wealth yourself. Is your last name “Hilton”?
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:42 pm#77 The only loophole in Social Security is the cap on it. After a certain amount of income you stop paying in. You could certainly remove that cap, but you still get no where close to paying the debt.
It is so bad right now, we gain more debt each year from Social Secuirty and Mediaid then the entire Federal Budget is worth per year. Currently, the Federal Debt is so how we could take every penny from our economy for an entire year and not pay it off. This is what bankrupcy is called. We got here from politicans creating programs that we cannot possible pay for.
The new prescription drug plan is another example. We need $7 trillion more to pay for it. That of course is not possible. That alone would cost the average american family another $10,000 or so per year to pay for. If we wanted to run deficit free, currently we would need at least $25,000 extra from each American Family. Obviously that isn’t even kinda possible. The only solution left is to cut these programs or reduce there scope by 60% or more.
Social Security should be increased to age 77 before you collect. You shouldn’t be able to collect more then you put in. We should also remove the cap on paying in to Social Security.
The Prescription Drug Benefit should simply be removed as it isn’t feasible in any shapre way or form.
Mediaid should also be completely redone and we need much stricker standards to get it. This programs costs us 1/2 of what Social Secuirty does.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:43 pmDear Yeranus - Sounds like you have trouble “fitting in” and “making friends” - you sound filled with self-hatred and loathing. Come to think of it - if I were YOU….I’d HATE myself , too!!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:46 pmInteresting strategy. He wants them to act like Democrats.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:49 pm#84 - Thank you very f’ing much, Stupid!!! Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Speaking in the 3rd person again - st*pid c*nt?
For your information, Stupid, more revenue IS collected when tax rates are reduced . Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
That’s a st*pid claim. Cutting taxes reduces revenue. When an economy grows - even by a small amount, revenues grow. But the revenue growth is related to economic growth - not the tax cuts. If you’re going to be st*pid enough to claim that the economy grows ‘because’ of the tax cut - you have to compare it to periods of growth following tax increases to see if the growth is higher. It isn’t - therefore you’re proven to be a st*pid c*nt that will believe anything she wants to believe!
In otherwords, you claim that tax increases occurred because of tax cuts - which is something only the most st*pid of c*nts would believe or repeat!
This was especially true when the top tax rate went from 70% to 28% - now there was some business stimulus and investment going on!! Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
How old are you *moses*? How much time was there in that drop? And are you referring to an ‘excessive’ tax rate - versus a non-excessive one? A 99% tax rate would be excessive enough to dissuade investment. Sorry, but we haven’t been in any excessive tax rates in decades. So your ‘general’ declaration is the foolism comment of a stupid childish little c*nt.
I figure you must be a trust-fund baby - you seem toooo Stupid to have earned your fabuloous wealth yourself. Is your last name “Hilton� Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Project much - st*pid c*nt? Is your last name c*nt? Because it’s what comes to mind every time you post!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pmDear Yeranus - Sounds like you have trouble “fitting in†and “making friends†- you sound filled with self-hatred and loathing. Come to think of it - if I were YOU….I’d HATE myself , too!! Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Whatever Ann C*nter. Don’t project your self-hatred and loathing on us. Sexual and social confusion is the territory of you fcuking ideeot Conservatives!
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmInteresting strategy. He wants them to act like Democrats.
Comment by Patrick1 — March 2, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Responsible and Conscientious? No conservative wants that - st*pid c*nt.
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pmThe Dems are completely capable of passing solid legislation. Of course you should say no if they try and pass some rediculous new tax that hurts American families, but that has always been the case. …[b.s.]… maybe the Dems will attemt to fix Social Security and Mediaid so it doesn’t bankrubt out country. I hope they work with them on that as well.
@ 4:16 pm
what would this latest neoCON brand of “reverse phychology” be called?
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmthis one is trying too hard… with no sincerity…
Question for Prog Friends: Since the rich Pay MORE than their “fair share†could you at least say “thank youâ€. Comment by valiant venus
Many people would consider my wife and I rich because together we do make a good income. But what we pay is our FAIR share of taxes. We have benefitted from student loans, public schools, five colleges (six if you count our daughter’s), highways, museums, and many other tax supported items which many with lesser incomes would not use. It is my PATRIOTIC PLEASURE to repay the country I LOVE with a portion of my good fortune and earned income. That, “dear” goddess wannabe is what patriotism is, not your fakery. So, you can say “thank you” to me and then shut up with the labelling of progressives as anti-American or unpatriotic.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pm“When an economy grows - even by a small amount, revenues grow. But the revenue growth is related to economic growth - not the tax cuts.”
VERY GOOOD!!! Now…what do you think helps stimulate an economy to GROW? Raising taxes? or lowering taxes??? (My self-loathing little friend - Your answer will determine if I address you again.)
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:32 pm“We have benefitted from student loans, public schools, five colleges (six if you count our daughter’s), highways, museums, and many other tax supported items which many with lesser incomes would not use. ”
And…..contrary to your elitist thinking, alot of poor people benefit from ALL the social infrastructure you mentioned, including, libraries, hospitals, etc. Does God know what a social snob you are?
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:37 pmPLC - Lovingour country as you do of course you are a patriot - a guilt-ridden misguided patriot…but a patriot nonetheless. But when I listen to progFreaks even joke about at joining up with the wimpy PC Canucks…..those are not patriots willing to protect our sovereignty.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:41 pmVERY GOOOD!!! Now…what do you think helps stimulate an economy to GROW? Raising taxes? or lowering taxes??? (My self-loathing little friend - Your answer will determine if I address you again.) Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
Tax cuts don’t stimulate the economy. If they did, the 2001-2006 period wouldn’t have been the worst recovery in recent times - as it was. The economy naturally grows, unless severe economic collapse occurs.
Care to tell us the last time we would have had negative GDP growth? Because that’s what it would take to produce the ‘conclusion’ you falsely assumed!
You’re such a st*pid c*nt!
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:42 pmAnd…..contrary to your elitist thinking, alot of poor people benefit from ALL the social infrastructure you mentioned, including, libraries, hospitals, etc. Does God know what a social snob you are? Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
And contrary to your elitist thinking, a lot of poor people contribute to ALL the social infrastructure. What about lawsuits, flight, etc., which are almost all the territory of the wealthy. Do they pay more for this subsidized access?
You’re such a st*pid classist c*nt!
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmPLC - Lovingour country as you do of course you are a patriot - a guilt-ridden misguided patriot…but a patriot nonetheless. But when I listen to progFreaks even joke about at joining up with the wimpy PC Canucks…..those are not patriots willing to protect our sovereignty.
Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
When the Canadians invade us with their army, then maybe your Nationalistazi comments will be more in context.
When you pick up a dictionary so learn the meaning of Patriotism versus, Nationalism maybe people will debate you, instead of pointing out that you’re just a st*pid nazi c*nt.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmVERY GOOOD!!! Now…what do you think helps stimulate an economy to GROW? Raising taxes? or lowering taxes??? (My self-loathing little friend - Your answer will determine if I address you again.)
Comment by valiant venus
Tax cuts stimulate growth?
Why are Red China and Vietnam two of the fastest growing economies in the world? You are an idiot. You do realize that, right?
Love your country. Decon the U.S.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 pmLove your country. Pay your taxes without whining.
March 2nd, 2007 at 6:52 pm“Tax cuts don’t stimulate the economy. If they did, the 2001-2006 period wouldn’t have been the worst recovery in recent times - as it was.”
Yeranus -Thank goodness my favourite Dem President, Kennedy didn’t agree with you! You, like too many “progressives”, seem to forget what 9/11 did to economic growth….Pssst…. my other fave Dem, Mr. Bill, was heard whining that 9/11 didn’t happen on his watch….he thought such an event would clinch his ‘legacy”. But after his non-response to the USS Cole and the anemic response to WTC1, he really wasn’t “up to the task”……
DeCON asks, “Tax cuts stimulate growth?” Please tell me you’re kidding. Next…please tell me mom and dad did NOT pay for any portion of your college expense. They should ask for a refund if they paid money for what you don’t KNOW?
You mention socialist/commie-talist countries, China and Viet Nam. When you economically evolve from agrarian to industrial societies, economies often improve. But I really like how well countries with flat taxes are faring. (Why don’t progressive shopkeepers charge rich people more for their merchandise?)
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 pm“nationalism - loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
patriotism - love for one’s country”
No wonder you’re confused - you think “loyalty” and “love” are synonymous. Pooooor dear…..
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 pmpatriotism - love for one’s countryâ€
No wonder you’re confused - you think “loyalty†and “love†are synonymous. Pooooor dear…..
Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
Ironic, you explain why you’re a nationalist, and are too st*pid to see it! Poor dear - and st*pid c*nt! Your ‘loyalty’ (Nationalism) is what you believe to be ‘love’! No wonder you’re a single Anorexic c*nt!
March 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmgoddess wannabe
Nice try on the come-back but no where did I say “libraries, hospitals” as I listed specific items that I used in order to get to my income level and what I use because of it. You are so very good at cherry-picking and distorting…oh, of course, you are a neocon.
No, God does not “know what a social snob” I am, because I am not. But God knows you try to paint me as one out of your projection. Remember, I am the one who wants to pay a higher rate of taxes, gives generously to my church, and wants equal protection for all people. You, on the other hand, lie about your background to puff yourself up, which is the height of snobbery and dishonesty, in order to draw attention to your lonely little self. Given your previous lies, how can we be sure you aren’t a traitor to the U.S., which you claim to love?
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmI aplogize - you certainly don’t seem like the library type to me. Tell you what, you want to pay more taxes, WHAT’s stopping you? SEND them as much as you WANT! And if you favour estate taxes as much as income tax, you can do so in your will.
I figure people like you ENJOY saying “I’d LOVE to pay more taxes….” Somehow, it’s reaffirming how much you can pay when other “little, lesser” people scrape by. (David Geffen made a similaR COMMENT.)
I really enjoy people who belong to the “anything goes” churches…..I can see why you would be drawn to such a “congregation”. There’s a United church of Christ around the corner - very anything goes….
Have a great weekend!
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmI have to admit, at first i found valiantvenusgrewfromuranus a bit abrasive. He’s really growing on me though. Also, can we stop trying to revive reaganomics…it died for a good reason.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmThis is a clear message that the Republican Party has no interest in governance, just power. The Republicans are urged by Norquist to be obstructionists. These people have no interest in doing what is right for the American people. That is why they are ignoring the public’s outrage. They want to preserve their power — and the monies that come with it — at all cost! The Republicans want to go back to the robber barons era.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmComment by valiant venus #80
virulent venereal,
…may you be forced to mate with…
…for the purpose of breeding…
…guard dogs…
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:41 pmvirulent venereal,
…If the top 5% of the “wealthy”…
…own 85% of the country’s wealth…
…doesn’t that mean they are…
…UNDER taxed?
…In fact, the uuber rich…
…don’t even pay taxes…
FURTHER:
…unless you’re a member of that top 5%…
…you’re just a disbarment…
…and nasty divorce away…
…from bankruptcy and public assistance…
…bi*ch…
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 pmListen up class,
Tax cuts do NOT reduce tax revenue always nor does it increase tax revenue always. Tax increase do no increase tax revenu always nor does it decrease tax revenue always. Huh you say???
Imagine that we reduced taxes to 0%. The government would then get $0 per year. Now imagine we raised taxes to 100%. At 100% the government would once again get $0 per year as no one would work for free. What does this all mean you ask?
Simple. You need to draw yourself a graph. Then you need to figure our the sweet spot for taxes. At some point taxes become to high and force people to work less or not at all simple because the return isn’t good enough. If you lower taxes too much, you simply leave money on the table. So, lower taxes is not always good nor is raising taxes. THis is very tricky however to figure out if we are under or over the sweet spot. Technically, the smart move would be to play with the rates a bit and watch the results. If we currently raised the rates a tad and the markets, job growth, and spending all went down, we then know that we are over the sweet spot and reducing taxes would actually mean MORE tax revenue. On the flip side, if we reduced taxes and watched as our tax revenue decreased because of it, we then know we are leaving money on the table and we should raise taxes back up.
Basically, Dems and Repugs are never correct with their answers to these questions. It is false to say that ALWAYS lowering taxes means more tax revenue, but sometimes it is in fact true. It is also false to say that ALWAYS raising taxes means more tax revenue.
Thanks for your time class. YOur dismissed.
March 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 pmI so look forward to the day Grover Norquist gets caught in bed with a dead woman or a live boy.
March 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 amI aplogize - you certainly don’t seem like the library type to me. Tell you what, you want to pay more taxes, WHAT’s stopping you? SEND them as much as you WANT! And if you favour estate taxes as much as income tax, you can do so in your will. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
I prefer to send your money - worthless c*nt.
I figure people like you ENJOY saying “I’d LOVE to pay more taxes….†Somehow, it’s reaffirming how much you can pay when other “little, lesser†people scrape by. (David Geffen made a similaR COMMENT.) Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
What TF does that post mean, you st*pid c*nt? What re-affirms you, fcuking others so you can have another latte that you throw up in the starbucks bathroom?
I really enjoy people who belong to the “anything goes†churches…..I can see why you would be drawn to such a “congregationâ€. There’s a United church of Christ around the corner - very anything goes…. Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
Whatever Toranimal. While you’re fantasizing about murder, torture and mayhem, the rest of us are living in a civilized society wondering WTF your st*pid parents did to create a fcuked up monster like you.
Have a great weekend! Comment by valiant venus — March 2, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
WTF? Like you care about anyone but your st*pd c*nt self.
March 3rd, 2007 at 1:31 amListen up class, Tax cuts do NOT reduce tax revenue always nor does it increase tax revenue always. Tax increase do no increase tax revenu always nor does it decrease tax revenue always. Huh you say??? Comment by Roger_Roger — March 2, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
Like you’re smart enough to lecture anyone, you st*pid old c*nt? We’re so far away from a ‘maximum-tax-rate’, that your posts is as st*pid as they always are!
March 3rd, 2007 at 1:32 amGrover forgot one: plug your ears and scream “na, na, na, na, na.”
So this is what passes for a Republican response to a well-deserved loss after fucking up the country for six years and reducing the US to the most reviled nation on the planet?
March 3rd, 2007 at 2:26 amRoger_Roger
You aren’t terribly bright are you?
Your entire idealogy of dropping taxes to up income doesn’t work. It has failed. Trying to pretend otherwise is basically just a reflection of the fact that you are thick.
In the end you get what you pay for, taxes should be raised to pay off America’s debts and pay for America’s expenses. You don’t get shit for free in this world and it doesn’t take an economic genius to figure out that dropping taxes and then entering two frigging wars is not the brightest action possible.
And this is not liberalism, this is real fiscal responsibility - not the total immoral thieving bad-debt philosophy of the rightwing.
March 3rd, 2007 at 5:40 amMan TP, your users have just dropped to a new low of dumbness. You have this ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus who demeans women every chance he gets. In almost every single post in fact. Does that sit ok with this crowd? I guess so. You also have Bruce Gorton who fails at reading. Bruce reread my post carefully please. I never once said we SHOULD lower taxes nor did I say we SHOULD raise them.
I currently have no clue if taxes are truly too high or too low. Like I said before, there is a sweet spot and that spot optimizes your tax returns. Going above or below it actually decreases tax revenue. This isn’t an opinion, this is economics 101. If you raised taxes to say 95%, do you honestly think that would raise tax revenues? I need some help from ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus. He needs to call you that demeaning name towards women if you believe that. No one works if you raise taxes to high or they at least reduce there amout of work as the return just doesn’t matter. Again, this isn’t an opinion and you don’t need college to figure this out. A 1st grader can understand this. Ask yourself, would you go to work if you got absolutely nothing? Would you go to work for $0.50 per hour? At what price would you start going to work? At what price would you work the most hours at? That last question is the optimize your tax returns question. The government needs you at work as much as possible at the highest tax rate possible to optimize their return. Again, this isn’t something to agree or disagree on, this is just economics 101.
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March 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm#56 - †(tax increases) - -That’s the only thing that will fix the system. â€
Spoken like a true Progressive!! Don’t even think about cutting spending!!
Comment by valiant venus
Thanks for the kneejerk reaction, I knew some troll would take the bait. Cutting spending doesn’t work, the Reagan years proved that. All that did was blow a huge hole in the deficit. And yes, raising taxes on the affluent would save social security. With the affluent fully invested in Social Security, they would be more concerned with its solvency. It would then be an issue which unites us as Americans, as we would all be in the same boat, financially speaking, unlike the present, two-tiered system, which divides us along an arbitrary, economic line: the cut-off point at which high-income citizens stop paying the same, dollar for dollar, as less economically fortunate taxpayers.
March 3rd, 2007 at 3:42 pmRepublican bipartisanship
at work, folks…
This is long, but it should be played
over and over and over again
on every channel - so
every American gets to see why
nothing good comes from this Whole Administration.
Why Democrats won’t be able to get anything done
for us, or the people we care about…
These people plan to stonewall and jerk off
March 3rd, 2007 at 6:12 pmon my dime! Outrageous!
Talk to Chuck Shumer about obstruction - I think he learned a thing or two from Tommy Daschle.
March 3rd, 2007 at 8:49 pmComment by virulent venus
That whole “k” street strategy thingie really paid off, eh? Will you still be bitching about Tom Dashle and Chuck Shumer in Jan of ‘09, when you incompetants lose the White House?
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:13 pmTalk to Chuck Shumer about obstruction
Or talk to Jack Abramoff about republican corruption.
Or Bob Ney.
Or Duke Cunningham . . .
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:19 pmMan TP, your users have just dropped to a new low of dumbness. You have this ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus who demeans women every chance he gets. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 3, 2007 @ 7:16 am
Actually I demean you and valiant venus - are you saying you’re a woman? Because I like women, and neither of you seem like one. A c*nt, that’s what you seem like.
As for dumbness - no one drops to your level - dum bass.
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 pmI currently have no clue if taxes are truly too high or too low. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 3, 2007 @ 7:16 am
You could have ended your entire post (in fact all posts) at the word clue in this post. It would have been accurate, and saved everyone a lot of time responding to your b*llsh*t.
But it’s true, you do have no clue - period.
March 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 pmPretty sad and horrifying that this neocon sh*thead moron and his little philosophy appears right underneath the story of the poor young soldier who re-enlisted for the health benefits and died over in the * war for oil based on lies.
Anyone who claims that tax cuts bring about a better way of life is showing what a xenophobic cousin-marrying moron looks like, something that you find in all social strata. If you go to any country other than the United States where taxes are higher (all civilized countries, that is), you see what benefits taxes bring: cleaner environment, better educated and more well-rounded children, less dichotomy between rich and poor. Japan immediately comes to mind.
March 4th, 2007 at 1:06 amDear * Hater - Put your fingers in your wallet and not just your keyboard - YOU can pay as much in taxes as you WANT. I am not against taxes - I am against waste. I believe national defense, infrastructure, education, assistance for disabled and elderly, etc. are all GOOD things we should gladly support with our federal, state, property, and sales taxes. Add to those the umpteen taxes on your tires, telephone, and utility bills and you may Americans are NOT undertaxed.
So again, to all liberal individuals and organizations (”anything goes” churches and non-profits): Put UP or shut up. Let libs pay as much in taxes as is necessary to assuage their guilt. Let all the churches and non-profits who advocate more entitlements aubject themselves to taxes. Afterall, it’s very EASY to love your neighbour with other people’s money.
March 4th, 2007 at 4:10 pm#13O has a point here. The Fed’s do not deny any of you the right to pay more in taxes. I can only assume that each and every one of you that want’s higher taxes already pays the extra amount you think we should be paying or your a hypocrit.
March 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pm