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FEMA to Katrina trailer residents: “Pack and pray.”

A FEMA trailer park was “abruptly closed down” this weekend because of “ongoing problems with raw sewage that pours onto the grass” and consistent power outages. FEMA moved many of the families to other nearby mobile home parks. Some of the displaced residents “questioned the genuineness of the sudden concern for their health because the stink of sewage has been a nuisance for about a year.” “They know how to put me out,” Katrina victim Allsee Tobias said, “but they don’t know how to help me out.”



118 Responses to “FEMA to Katrina trailer residents: “Pack and pray.””

  1. Kay says:

    Thank God $6 Million was spent on the embassy in Baghdad.


  2. Patrick1 says:

    The welfare state isn’t doing very well.


  3. Kay says:

    oops. $600 Million


  4. JPark says:

    Geez, I hope nothing catastrophic ever happens to you, Patrick. I would hate for you to have a crisis of faith.


  5. Barbara Bush says:

    This has all worked out very well for these folks. They were underprivileged, anyway.


  6. . says:

    ever heard of using the trailers most distinguishing feature FEMA? WHEELS


  7. Patrick1 says:

    Live by the welfare state, die by the welfare state.


  8. Raven says:

    Now that the grass has been sufficiently fertilized, FEMA has sold the park to a friendly developer who wants to put in a horse show arena…


  9. JPark says:

    Yes, that is that compassionate conservatism I keep hearing about. They lose everything (and your wonderful free market insurance companies won’t pay up) and you are there to step on their necks.


  10. John says:

    Is this one of those special Halliburton all-in-one water supply/sewage systems?


  11. Patrick1 says:

    When you spend your life waiting on liberals to tell you what to do, this is what happens. Instead of being Americans and taking initiative, being proactive you wait for Mayor Nagin to send the buses and none arrive so you end up in a government provided tornado target.


  12. WHackwhacker says:

    Nut Gingrich, the modern scourge of the “welfare state” (and like Patrick a not-so-compassionate conservative), blamed the mess, in part, on the Ninth Ward’s “22,000 people [who] were so uneducated and so unprepared, they literally couldn’t get out of the way of a hurricane.” Actually, it’s the uneducated and unprepared political hacks at FEMA and in the Oval Office that continue to this day to bungle the recovery.


  13. Roger_Roger says:

    Personally,

    The Government should be doing more to fight the insurance companies that failed to pay for damaged homes. Those that had proper insurance including flood insurance and didn’t get reimbursed really need to file suit and the Fed’s should be backing them.

    Either way, why is the government still holding people down there and why are they rebuilding. Hell, even TP posted the fact that New Orleans is going under and the ocean is swallowing it up. That will only be advanced by Global Warming. Isn’t it time to we realize that rebuilding this doomed city is not worth the tax payers money? Global warming is creating more and stronger Hurricanes and Oceans are rising. It seems completely wrong to provide handouts to people to keep them from leaving. We should encourage people to move on with there lives and leave that area. We should stop aid locally and encourage people that still need aid to leave the area to keep themselves getting government handouts. I can only assume this crowd is with me on this. You know as well as I do that Global warming means New Orleans is Doomed.

    The only people that think we should rebuild and pay for people to come back to New Orleans don’t believe in Global warming. Or they simply say they believe yet don’t back it up and demand the Fed’s move people back to an area that Global warming is going to kill.


  14. Raven says:

    Yes indeed, oh patrick one, as the corporate welfare state gains momentum under the current regime, many more will die at a faster rate from disease, unemployment, and homelessness.
    The accelerated rate of climate change, environmental degradation and genetic modification of food crops will reach a tipping point faster than you can upload the newest version of windows…


  15. Political Orphan says:

    Patrick1, are you grooming yourself for the presidency? Now that you’ve sufficiently jettisoned your soul, you need to work on your public image…


  16. RUCerious says:

    Anyone else like to see Pattie parade around said trailer park with a sandwich board of all his cute sayings on display. He’s so proud of his conservative views, he shouldn’t have any problem directly interacting with those folks.
    I’d give him about four minutes.


  17. big papa says:

    May Patrick live long enough to watch his blood line ALL become indigent welfare recipients…

    …and may he contract a non-fatal, incurable, horrifically painful, disease…

    …and lose his job and health insurance…


  18. old Red Neck says:

    Gee, thanks, Democrat Controlled Congress!


  19. Art says:

    Patrick1
    You have no idea what you are talking about. You cannot paint the whole New Orleans area with such a broad brush. You do not know the scope and scale of the devestation that was caused by the failure of the US Army Corp of Engineers levee system. You do not understand the frustration of the people who are trying to come back and make their homes in the area, despite not having anyplace but a small tin box to call home. You cannot, unless you have experienced it, understand the loss, anger, despair, resolve, hope, pride and faith we have when we say “We are New Orleanians, and we want to be home.” There is a lot more positive going on here than you know, despite the roadblocks being thrown up by insurance companies and the government.

    Art in N.O.


  20. Raven says:

    Dang Roger2, you are just so on today!
    The only difficulty with admitting that New Orleans is doomed in the long term, is that all those other gulf coast realtors, developers and republican party fund raisers will have to admit to a whole lot more soon to be doomed and worthless real estate that they are trying to sell before the next big one hits…


  21. RUCerious says:

    big papa ~ Karma balances everything, eventually.


  22. Raven says:

    #18… RUC…
    four minutes alive, or four minutes before his remains are totally unrecognizable…?


  23. Roger_Roger says:

    #20 your right but luckily the Dems are now in power and supposidly believe in Global Warming. If they believe and still allow Fed Fund’s to be used in these area’s they are almost committing a crime. How can you possibly rebuild someone’s home in an area you know will either be under water or hit over and over by strong Hurricanes? Hell, I bet the insurance companies will stop giving insurance to homes in these areas.

    If the insurance companies deny insurance in an area because it is to risky, we are tax payers should tell these people we WILL NOT be paying them anything when there home is blown or washed away.

    If you feel we should rebuild this area and move people back there, then you truly deny Global Warming which is sad.


  24. Tim O says:

    WWJTOOTS, Patrick?

    (Who Would Jesus Throw Out Onto The Street?)

    Those damn Lepers should find their own cure!
    That free loading bitch only giving TWO PENNIES at the Temple!?!
    Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers . . . . IS OK BY ME!

    Why are you such a douche Patrick?


  25. Patricktwo says:

    the corporate welfare state IS doing very well


  26. Patrick1 says:

    Baloney. It is time to act like Americans, when you build a city below sea level with one of the largest rivers in the world on one side and the Gulf of Mexico on the other you have to be a hardy soul to live there. So you had better be a pioneer and not a dependent. Too many of people of New Orleans turned out to be dependents. And guess what? Once more liberalism failed them.


  27. Art says:

    Sure Roger,
    Let’s give up New Orleans, New York City, San Francisco, Miami, Boston, Providence, Baltimore, all the Florida Keys…

    or let’s work to solve the problem.

    It’s not too late.


  28. Unum says:

    And what’s worse is that it’s all their fault those damn Katrina victims…just as Newt Gingrich said…they were too stupid and unprepared to get out. (can you believe this sh@t?)


  29. Art says:

    Patrick,
    Not too many dependents down here that I see. Most people who are rebuilding are doing so without any so-called government help.

    Don’t take my word for it. Don’t take faux news word for it either. Come on down and see for yourself.


  30. Patrick1 says:

    2 Thessalonians 3

    6 Warning Against Idleness

    6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,1Co 5:4 we command you, brothers, to keep away fromver 14; S Ro 16:17 every brother who is idlever 7,11 and does not live according to the teaching[a] Or tradition you received from us.S 1Co 11:2 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example.ver 9; S 1Co 4:16 We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we workedS Ac 18:3Eph 4:28 night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help,1Co 9:4-14 but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow.ver 7S 1Co 4:16 10 For even when we were with you,1Th 3:4 we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work,1Th 4:11 he shall not eat.” 10 1Co 9:4-14; 1Th 4:11


  31. Kay says:

    “What I’m hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them.” –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the hurricane evacuees at the Astrodome in Houston, Sept. 5, 2005


  32. big papa says:

    Comment by RUCerious #21

    No doubt you are correct…

    …it’s just that sometimes…

    …one has to ASK FOR what one wishes…


  33. Patrick1 says:

    I hope you are right Art. The best way is to get off the liberal tit and do your own work.


  34. big papa says:

    Comment by old Red Neck #18

    Another IGNORANT hillbilly…

    …in the know…


  35. Raven says:

    roger2, I agree.
    Allstate Insurance Co. has already closed up shop in Mississippi..
    To Art in New Orleans
    In taking my position of seeing the long term futility of rebuilding New Orleans back to any semblence of it’s former self, I do not mean to minimalize your struggle.
    I have a deep compassion for you and your fellow survivors.
    It was negligence, and failure of our nation to maintain the infrastructure and protections which New Orleans required that are the crime of neglect we are guilty of.
    The further neglect of you and all others who are struggling to survive and rebuild the best you know how, is beyond a crime of neglect, and approachs the definition of crimes against humanity.


  36. PatrickAintOne says:

    Hey, Patrick1, I have a feeling you feel this way about all entitlement programs. I’d hate to see what you think about seniors and social security. You probably think we should cut them loose … but except for really rich people, most live year to year on their paychecks. So what’s an aging society supposed to do? Have 80 year olds work?


  37. Roger_Roger says:

    #27 I didn’t suggest “giving up” I suggested not rebuilding in those area’s. The other cities you stated don’t need to be rebuilt. The same discussion would happen if they went down as well.

    Solving the problem that is Global warming is very difficult. I personally don’t think we have a shot sadly. Even if the EU and the USA doubled their stated emission cutback, China, Russia, and India would be more then making up the difference. China alone is scheduling over a 600% increase in emissions by 2025. That will make them the world’s largest emitter. that increase is also MUCH MUCH more then the entire world’s combined reduction commitments by the year 2025. Now add the fact that India is scheduled to increase emissions by 90% and russia is increasing by 55% and you can see we are screwed.

    The people that care are to busy worrying about using more efficeint light bulbs or getting 1 more mile per gallon. They are hung up on the USA when the USA isn’t even the problem. In fact, the USA has plans to reduce emissions by 18% by 2012 which would be the largest reduction of any country in the world over then next 5 years.

    You see, the USA accounts for 25% of global GDP and only 24% of emissions. Russia, China, and India are responsible for 25% of global emissions and only 7% of Global GDP. This is called Greenhosue gas intensity by scientist studing global warming. Through their research, they found that Output (GDP) is the key factor to look at verses emissions. The USA produces 2.118 GDP per 1 emissions while Russia, China, and India produce 0.5 GDP per emissions. Obviously they are the world’s biggest problem. To compound the problem, they are also increasing there emissions much much faster then anyone else.

    It is time we start demanding these countries at least adobt USA standards for emissions. If they matched the USA’s greenhouse gas intensity, we would cut Global emissions by 18%. The USA and the EU combined are planning a global reduction of only 4%-7% by 2020. As you can see, Russia, China, and India are the problem.


  38. Patrick1 says:

    Social Security is designed to keep people from creating wealth by giving them a negative return on the money confiscated. An aging society is supposed to allow their people the liberty to create wealth not dependency as we currently do.


  39. Raymond Funamoto says:

    HECK OF A JOB YOU’RE DOING, FEMA OLD BEAN!!!!! Time the repugnant-repub rightwingnut cranks GOT OFF THEIR DUFFS AND GOT A FIRST-HAND LOOK AT THE CHAOS AND HUMAN MISERY INSYEAD OF BLAMING THE VICTIMS AND “swift-boat” SMEARING THEIR AGONY, POURING SALT INTO THEIR WOUNDS, THOUGH “BLAME THE VICTIM” JINGOISTIC DEMAGOGUERY AND CALUMNY IS STRAIGHT FROM Karl Miss Piggy Rove’s SKID-MARK SMEARED STRATEGY-BOOK ALSO USED BY repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank TROLLS and their Athletic-SUPPORTERS, i.e., the CLOSET HOMOSEXUALS RAMPANT AMONG THE repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank FUDGE-PACHYDERMS!!!!! HAH!


  40. Dr. Ruth says:

    Post #30…
    “daryll” on methamphetamines…


  41. big papa says:

    Hey, Patrick1,

    I’d hate to see what you think about seniors and social security. You probably think we should cut them loose…

    Comment by PatrickAintOne #36

    Nah,

    …living with his parents and all…

    …whose basement would he post from?


  42. Zooey says:

    Gee, thanks, Democrat Controlled Congress!
    Comment by old Red Neck

    I’m guessing you’ve always been this stupid.


  43. dlet says:

    So you had better be a pioneer and not a dependent. Too many of people of New Orleans turned out to be dependents. And guess what? Once more liberalism failed them.

    Comment by Patrick1

    So do you feel the same way about those Midwest towns that were recently hit by tornados? Bush offered them immediate help from FEMA. Dou you think he is a liberal handing out dependancy?


  44. Bienville says:

  45. Patrick1 says:

    If they only depend on the welfare state they are doomed.


  46. Roger_Roger says:

    #35 I didn’t suggest not rebuilding or helping these people. I simply think we should move them to a safer spot. And your right about the Insurance companies. If they refuse to insure news homes in these area’s, we the tax payer should also not be paying a single penny to them if something bad happens. It is close to something we should just not allow and tell them the land isn’t usable. It is a crime against tax payers to build a home and think “If a Hurricane or flood wrecks it, the Feds will pay for it”. That type of mindset is very bad for America.


  47. Art says:

    patrick,

    “And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:” Matthew 6:28

    I can’t find a verse about a liberal tit.
    Maybe you can help me out.


  48. Mary Poplins says:

    I think it was the FEMA Republican that failed the people in NO. La. had a dem governor and that is why they where so slow. Did you notice that Old Bushie went to Mississippi first when the strom hit because they have a Republican Governor. You had that Brownie guy that was ahead of FEMA. He was not qualify for this job. Where was the National Guard? They where in Iraq.


  49. hacker bob says:

    Just one question.

    How long is the “Government” supposed to continue to pick up the bill for Katrins victims?

    At what point do we say “enough, time to do it on your own”?

    Sorry, that was 2 questions.


  50. Karim says:

    Compassionate conservatism at its worst.


  51. Art says:

    hacker bob
    1. When everyone who had losses due to the faulty construction of the levees is made whole again.
    2. See #1


  52. Yikes says:

    How long is the US Government supposed to continue to pick up the bill for Iraq victims? Oh yeah they have oil so I guess it’s until the US gets the oil.

    Hey Patrick1, live by the bomb, die by the bomb!


  53. Zooey says:

    How long is the “Government” supposed to continue to pick up the bill for Katrins victims?

    At what point do we say “enough, time to do it on your own”?
    Comment by hacker bob

    Those are good questions, Robert. Unfortunately, the aid given to Katrina victims has been, and continues to be, a massive clusterf*ck.
    If the aid had been efficient from the beginning, it would probably be done by now.


  54. Bruce Gorton says:

    And Republicans wonder, why the leftwing calls them a failed government.


  55. Spudge_Boy says:

    173,000 New Orleans residents have filed for federal assitance for Katrina relief.

    0 renters have received help.

    632 home owners have received help.

    September 15, 2005
    President Discusses Hurricane Relief in Address to the Nation

    Tonight so many victims of the hurricane and the flood are far from home and friends and familiar things. You need to know that our whole nation cares about you, and in the journey ahead you’re not alone. To all who carry a burden of loss, I extend the deepest sympathy of our country. To every person who has served and sacrificed in this emergency, I offer the gratitude of our country. And tonight I also offer this pledge of the American people: Throughout the area hit by the hurricane, we will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes, to help citizens rebuild their communities and their lives. And all who question the future of the Crescent City need to know there is no way to imagine America without New Orleans, and this great city will rise again.

    It is lies like these that cause people to hate George W Bush’s guts.


  56. Daryll says:

    2 Thessalonians 3

    6 Warning Against Idleness

    6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,1Co 5:4 we command you, brothers, to keep away fromver 14; S Ro 16:17 every brother who is idlever 7,11 and does not live according to the teaching[a] Or tradition you received from us.S 1Co 11:2 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example.ver 9; S 1Co 4:16 We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we workedS Ac 18:3Eph 4:28 night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help,1Co 9:4-14 but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow.ver 7S 1Co 4:16 10 For even when we were with you,1Th 3:4 we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work,1Th 4:11 he shall not eat.” 10 1Co 9:4-14; 1Th 4:11

    Comment by Patrick1 — March 5, 2007 @ 3:18 pm

    Pat, I commend you for listing these scriptural verses. In order to eat, you must work. I can remember when I viewed CNN in late September 2004. There was a NOLA resident (female) who claimed that she couldn’t work because she has a child. That has to be one of the lamest excuses that I have heard ever (Child care does exist). I have sympathy for some NOLA residents, but the majority of the residents in the 9th Ward district were living off my hard earned wages (taxes). I believe that there was a purpose for Hurricane Katrina. God wanted to the inform those individuals that they must work, educate themselves or receive some type of training, and from what I’ve heard, you have a lot of the former residents doing just that instead of complaining. As a child, my father informed me that you must always be proactive not idle. If the majority of the residents made the decision to adhere to the Mayor’s warning, lives could’ve been saved. Democrats, this is what happens when you have individuals capable of working, living on Government funding. Libs, the word for today is “Initiative”.


  57. dlet says:

    How long is the “Government” supposed to continue to pick up the bill for Katrins victims?

    At what point do we say “enough, time to do it on your own”?

    Sorry, that was 2 questions.

    Comment by hacker bob

    I would say until the government gets it right. Don’t you think that people would jump at an opportunity to get out of a Fema trailer and restart their life or do you think dat dey shure do luv dem trailers and such. Livin off the govnerment is pretty sweet. Deh wus underprivledged anyway.

    In all seriousness the governemnt is there to provide stability when there is none. The society as a whole takes care of the needs of the ones in rouble in order to lift the society as a whole. It would be a travesty if the government failed to provide those in need with some sort of semblance of their past lives. Part of that is rebuilding N.O. or providing some other realistic option. This isn’t an easy situation but a society is judged on how they take of their own when in need. To just dump the people of N.O. would be a sad signal.


  58. Spudge_Boy says:

    Daryll, you are the biggest non-Christian a$$wipe on this thread. You don’t act anything like a Christian you bastard. You give Christianity a bad name. I hope something horrible happens to you, so you can see what is really like to suffer and need help. You ar etoo young and haven’t been given you lot in life from God yet, so you think everything is peachy. Keep living your non-Christian way and yours will come soon enough.


  59. Bruce Gorton says:

    hacker bob

    Personally, I agree with you in a way.

    You see, I don’t think it should be the US government that pays for Katrina, or the manmade disaster that followed it.

    I think the politicians who failed in Katrina should pay.

    I think the multi-millionare President who appointed a man with no relevant qualifications to head FEMA should pay.

    I think the congressmen who voted against upgrading the levees after 2004 was a record breaking year for hurricanes in the gulf should pay.

    I think the party which saw to it that a bridge to nowhere got built in Alaska, and slashed funding for the maintanance of the sub-par levees New Orleans had, should pay.

    And I think every single conservative who then saw fit to spit in the faces of those who lost everything in Katrina by claiming that the residents of New Orleans had it coming because they chose to live there, I think they should pay damages.

    Because frankly, I think more then one liberal here, is sick of paying for the conservative (All three houses at the time) government’s screwups.

    And yes, I do include the Democrats who had assumed the president understood New Orleans’ state laws regarding a natural disaster at least as well as every single president before him. Blanco was a fool to think that Republicans would ever actually do their duty by their whole country, rather then just the bits that voted for them.

    (The major flaw in the “Louisana Democrats are to blame” meme is simple, Louisiana is a gulf state, you have to assume there had never been a need for state intervention in the case of a natural disaster before in its state history.)


  60. old Red Neck says:

    Y’all need to all get jobs, you too Katrina Victims. Everyone here just sits around digging up what George W. said this day and that day. Go out and WORK! Enough sitting around your fancy Mac computer.


  61. Zooey says:

    Libs, the word for today is “Initiative”.
    Comment by Daryll

    What’s your point, Daryll? Are you saying that all the progressive/liberals commenting on TP are unemployed slackers? Are you saying there’s something wrong with people who want to help their fellow man?

    I hope your life never gets difficult, Daryll, but if it does, it will be people like us who will help you. Not people like you.


  62. Bruce Gorton says:

    old Red Neck

    People actually paying any attention to the world around them scare you don’t they? Maybe because they don’t buy your crap?


  63. Zooey says:

    Enough sitting around your fancy Mac computer.
    Comment by old Red Neck

    You really are that stupid, aren’t you?

    It looks like you’re doing exactly what you’re accusing us of doing, doesn’t it? And if you’re at work, you’re stealing your time from your employer, aren’t you? That would be terribly wrong, wouldn’t it?


  64. Spudge_Boy says:

    And tonight I also offer this pledge of the American people: Throughout the area hit by the hurricane, we will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes, to help citizens rebuild their communities and their lives.

    That is your answer hacker bob.


  65. Art says:

    Red Neck
    What kind of computer are you using? An old Commodore or Pet?


  66. Spudge_Boy says:

    old Red Neck is a parody.


  67. Raven says:

    dear old chicken neck:
    please pick up the busch lite cans you threw out along the road last night…


  68. Sal M'Clarki says:

    I heard ol red nex was running a Heathkit these days…


  69. hacker bob says:

    Those of you that gave serious, heartfelt responses, thank you.

    I agree that the Katrina victims should not be turned out into the cold. But at the same time, they have a responsibility to start working to improve their situation on their own.

    Anyone that wants to rely on the Government to take care of them is a fool. Politicians, from both of the major parties, are going to cover the butts of those that got them elected first and foremost (that includes Insurance companies).

    I commend those that are rebuilding. Yes, it is tragic what happened in NO. Yes, I agree that they need help. But they also need to help themselves.


  70. Spudge_Boy says:

    But they also need to help themselves.

    Comment by hacker bob — March 5, 2007 @ 4:13 pm

    They are.

    The only New Orleans natives that are still there ARE the ones who can help themselves. The welfare people were shipped to other states and have no way of getting back. You really should look into this more hacker bob.


  71. Daryll says:

    Libs, I see nothing wrong with my post. Your response is proof as to why we still have a large percentage of individuals (capable of working) living on government funding. You continue to make excuses for them. Mr. Bill Cosby visited NOLA and categorized these individuals as lazy people. He informed them that if they wanted their situation to get better, they must become proactive and working members of society (better themselves). Stop making excuses for these individuals. I live in the Washington D.C. area (Fairfax/Vienna) and I can tell you that since alot of the NOLA residents were moved to Washington, as well as other various cities, the crime rate has significantly increased. Coincidence, I think not.


  72. Zooey says:

    I commend those that are rebuilding. Yes, it is tragic what happened in NO. Yes, I agree that they need help. But they also need to help themselves.
    Comment by hacker bob

    I don’t think you’ll find anyone here that thinks the people NO ought to just sit back and let things get done for them. Sure, there is always that percentage of the population who thinks that way, and they’re the ones who need to be nudged along. Most of the people are gone anyway.


  73. Daryll says:

    What’s your point, Daryll? Are you saying that all the progressive/liberals commenting on TP are unemployed slackers? Are you saying there’s something wrong with people who want to help their fellow man?

    I hope your life never gets difficult, Daryll, but if it does, it will be people like us who will help you. Not people like you.

    Comment by Zooey — March 5, 2007 @ 3:57 pm

    I believe in helping your fellow man, but if he/she decides to live off your assistance for years, will you continue to give? There’s a difference between giving and hindering. If you give too much for a long period of time, and they continue to be complacent, aren’t you hindering them from becoming a working member of society. If you’re trying your best to put food on the table, I have no problem giving assistance to you.


  74. Spudge_Boy says:

    Daryll,

    See the comment above yours. The people shipped to your neighborhood WERE the welfare people. You can thank Bush for your increase in crime.

    The people still in New Orleans are the ones trying to rebuild the cities. Take a look into reality for a change, instead of using your bigotry.

    What Would Jesus Do?

    He would feed and cloth these people, just like the poor, hungry homeless Romans he preached to.


  75. Zimzone says:

    P Version 1.0 & Daryll, my other brother, must have joined the Mutual Admiration Society, eh?

    When you two get done love patting each other on the back, please, STFU.

    Can’t either of you idiots see this is the same garbage as W. Reed? Bushit & Co. tell all how great they’re doing while waving flags.
    When the truth emerges, you blame the VICTIMS!

    The real root of the problem is that dipstick in the White House.
    Daryll, wasn’t something in the Bible about a ‘Burning Bush?
    Got a match?


  76. Zooey says:

    Daryll,

    Of course you see nothing wrong with your own post! I could tell you to f*ck off, and see nothing wrong with it. Geez…

    As for the rest of it — whatever.


  77. Spudge_Boy says:

    Daryll, how do you explain the fact that the insurance companies aren’t paying up? Do you think people on welfare took out insurance policies on other peoples homes? No, those are working people getting screwed. WAKE UP!!!!!!


  78. Raven says:

    Daryll……
    they’re waiting for you on the Ann Coulter/faggot thread……….
    (finally a topic you know something about, and can polish your legacy with )


  79. hacker bob says:

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — March 5, 2007 @ 4:19 pm

    In a year and a half, could they not save enough to buy a bus ticket (family of 4 NY to NO one way greyhound $412.80 ($22 a month) with no advanced booking)? there is not such thing as “no way of getting back”.

    That statement alone says that 1) it is impossible, 2) they lack the ability, or 3) they lack the initiative to do so (such as gain employment).

    There comes a point where the “Government” has to say “enough”.


  80. Roger_Roger says:

    If anything, we should be paying to move these people away from New Orleans. Global Warming afterall is increasing sea levels and increasing the size and amount of Hurricanes. This is a doomed city. Paying these people to stay there is semi Evil.


  81. Zooey says:

    Robert,

    You can’t possibly be saying you actually think it only costs $412.80 to move a household. Sorry, but that’s intellectually dishonest.


  82. Daryll says:

    Daryll,

    See the comment above yours. The people shipped to your neighborhood WERE the welfare people. You can thank Bush for your increase in crime.

    The people still in New Orleans are the ones trying to rebuild the cities. Take a look into reality for a change, instead of using your bigotry.

    What Would Jesus Do?

    He would feed and cloth these people, just like the poor, hungry homeless Romans he preached to.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — March 5, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

    They’re not located in my neighborhood (Privileged area), they’re located in SE/NE Washington DC. Also, I wasn’t referring to those who work for a living, I was talking about those who mooch off the welfare program.


  83. Zooey says:

    They’re not located in my neighborhood (Privileged area), they’re located in SE/NE Washington DC. Also, I wasn’t referring to those who work for a living, I was talking about those who mooch off the welfare program.
    Comment by Daryll

    So none of this is actually a problem for you, you just want to bitch about it and decide how people ought to live?

    Shame on you, Daryll.


  84. VerbalKint says:

    Patrick1 seems determined to prove that he is one callous motherf*cker, even if callousness is not widely admired as an attribute.


  85. Spudge_Boy says:

    There comes a point where the “Government” has to say “enough”.

    And there is also a time when the majority of “American taxpayers” have to say “not enough.”


  86. Spudge_Boy says:

    Also, I wasn’t referring to those who work for a living, I was talking about those who mooch off the welfare program.

    Comment by Daryll — March 5, 2007 @ 4:37 pm

    Actually, you were just ignoring what I said and repeating what you said, so since I don’t want to go round and round in a circle with you, I will be stepping out of our conversation.


  87. Raven says:

    Daryll…
    What constitutes a “priveleged area” ?
    And what are your circumstances that afford you such privilege?
    If I’m being to personal, please just answer the first question.


  88. Daryll says:

    Daryll…
    What constitutes a “priveleged area” ?
    And what are your circumstances that afford you such privilege?
    If I’m being to personal, please just answer the first question.

    Comment by Raven — March 5, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

    Housing in my neighborhood worth $410,000 or more.


  89. Zooey says:

    Housing in my neighborhood worth $410,000 or more.
    Comment by Daryll

    Daryll, do you and Mrs Daryll volunteer and help those less fortunate than yourselves? Outside of your witnessing, of course.


  90. Raven says:

    Oh, you poor soul……..


  91. Yikes says:

    Daryll, Jesus just told me that you should sell your house and go help out at Mother Teresa’s orphanage or you will go to hell.


  92. Daryll says:

    Daryll, Jesus just told me that you should sell your house and go help out at Mother Teresa’s orphanage or you will go to hell.

    Comment by Yikes — March 5, 2007 @ 5:00 pm

    Through faith in God, I earned what I have because of hard work. Also, my wife and I do give to various charities each year.


  93. Raven says:

    Oh, I forgot to add, Daryll, I paid $40,000 for mine a year ago, I have brought it up in value to $85,000 to date thru the works of my hands, and I will be out of debt in two more years.
    I’m a far wealthier individual in the here and now than you have any hope for in the 35 years…
    My treasures are in the help I give others to help them accomplish the same freedom of mind, spirit and body.
    If you live in a privileged neighborhood, on the edges of impoverished neighborhoods, you have the heavy price of fear to pay for.


  94. Daryll says:

    If you live in a privileged neighborhood, on the edges of impoverished neighborhoods, you have the heavy price of fear to pay for.

    Comment by Raven — March 5, 2007 @ 5:06 pm

    Wrong, I fear no one, but God. I want to build people up, not help them be complacent.


  95. Bruce Gorton says:

    Roger_Roger.

    Can’t be done. New Orleans was America’s fourth biggest port, and includes a lot of oil refineries. America’s economy needs the place to be fully functional. Scrapping New Orleans would be like scrapping New York.

    Hacker Bob

    Think about what you just posted for a second.

    If you are a moocher, you don’t work. It goes against theme for moochers to work. Therefore, a moocher developing the money to catch a bus back to New Orleans isn’t exactly likely.

    Next, if you have work where you are, and you have a place to stay that hasn’t been ruined by a dirty great hurricane – would you choose to go back so you can sleep amidst raw sewage and get welfare?

    New Orleans was destroyed in 2005. It is 2007. Bush swore to rebuild New Orleans. Rather then trying to disparage those people who lost everything in the hurricane, shouldn’t you just hurry up and rebuild the place? Get the job done – and then moan about the people there mooching or whatever. Until the job is done however, the guys who took funds from maintaining the levees to build an Alaskan bridge to nowhere don’t have much of a leg to stand on when talking about living off the government graft.


  96. Spudge_Boy says:

    Housing in my neighborhood worth $410,000 or more.

    Comment by Daryll — March 5, 2007 @ 4:53 pm

    You consider that privileged? Fu*k me standing up. The house next door to mine just sold for 750,000 and I don’t think I live in a privilaged area.

    God didn’t help me get to where I am. I studied hard and learned a trade most can’t even start to be in. Do I look down at others that can’t achieve what I did? No. I am what I call lucky. I am one lucky son of a b!tch to have been born with a brain to learn and a drive to succeed. God didn’t do that. I did. Some people aren’t born with the same capacity. Do I look down on them, no. I am smart enough to know it is my lot in life to help those that CAN’T help themselves. If that means helping people who were wiped out by a category 5 hurricane, then so be it.


  97. Raven says:

    Why do you fear God, Daryll?


  98. Yikes says:

    “Through faith in God, I earned what I have because of hard work. Also, my wife and I do give to various charities each year.”

    LOL You do realize that many 30 percenters that praise all Bush says or does are people that work hard, getting minimum wage, have faith in god and couldn’t possibly dream of living in a privileged neighbourhood! Keep living in your bubble world with your scriptures, your fear will eat you up and spit you out.


  99. Bruce Gorton says:

    Daryll

    You do realise that he was paraphrasing the event in the Bible where Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, then for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven hey?

    Jesus was very explicit in what he said in the Bible, you should read it some time, it might surprise you.


  100. Raven says:

    Daryll:
    Whether you fear anyone besides god or not, I repeat:
    If you live in a “privilged neighborhood”, on the edges of impoverished nieghborhoods, you will pay for fear. If not your fear, then certainly you will pay for the fears of your “priviliged neighborhors”.


  101. Daryll says:

    “Through faith in God, I earned what I have because of hard work. Also, my wife and I do give to various charities each year.”

    LOL You do realize that many 30 percenters that praise all Bush says or does are people that work hard, getting minimum wage, have faith in god and couldn’t possibly dream of living in a privileged neighbourhood! Keep living in your bubble world with your scriptures, your fear will eat you up and spit you out.

    Comment by Yikes — March 5, 2007 @ 5:16 pm

    I rescind using the word privileged. I live in a blessed neighborhood. You guys do, as well.


  102. Daryll says:

    Daryll:
    Whether you fear anyone besides god or not, I repeat:
    If you live in a “privilged neighborhood”, on the edges of impoverished nieghborhoods, you will pay for fear. If not your fear, then certainly you will pay for the fears of your “priviliged neighborhors”.

    Comment by Raven — March 5, 2007 @ 5:24 pm

    I just want to ensure that are neighborhoods are safe.


  103. Raven says:

    And so, you will pay for, and promulgate, fear.
    (You still haven’t answered my question: Why do you fear God?)


  104. Bruce Gorton says:

    Daryll

    I’m and atheist, so you probably can guess my amusement at that.

    Look, in the end the basic truth of the matter is that the people of New Orleans, suffered a disaster which was none of their doing. The vast majority of them are trying to help themselves, and the vast majority of those who aren’t, can’t.

    Isn’t it more important to worry about those vast majorities, who are suffering, who are not safe, and who are struggling to rebuild their lives, then the very, very few who are content in the muck? Surely, it is better to help your fellow man and occassionally be taken advantage of, then to cast a blind eye to those who suffer despite their own best efforts?

    Surely, when all is said and done doesn’t it matter more to help those many who will use that help to better themselves, then to worry about those few who will just take advantage?


  105. Bruce Gorton says:

    and should be an. Its getting late, goodnight all.


  106. Zooey says:

    I have zero income right now, and I have more than Daryll will ever have.


  107. Lee says:

    …and somewhere in the world tonight, George W. Bush is smirking.


  108. WaltTheMan says:

    #106 – Zooey,
    There is a difference between income and having (And I do not mean possessions).


  109. Zooey says:

    There is a difference between income and having (And I do not mean possessions).
    Comment by WaltTheMan

    Absolutely, Walt. :)


  110. Roger_Roger says:

    I love how you folks attempt to destroy anyone with any money. Why are you against someone making money? America is the land of the Free afterall and this is a right. You folks act like rich people are pure evil, yet all your leaders are loaded beyond belief. These are the same leaders that talk about the need to raise taxes to help the poor. Why the hell aren’t the giving away their millions to the poor? What created this additude that you know what I should do with my money but that isn’t what your leaders should do with theres.

    If your truly into equality wealth wise, I think it is time you start electing leaders who actually share these values. Edwards is a prime example. The man has the most expensive house in his COUNTY yet talks about 2 Americas and how the wealthy don’t share and how the wealthy dominate and destroy America. This man is loaded and need a multimillion dollar house? That isn’t sharing, that is being a hypocrit!


  111. JPark says:

    #110 When we have public financing, THEN talk about politicians having money. Hypocrite? Hmm, maybe, but if he didn’t have money you wouldn’t know anything about him because he wouldn’t be running for office.


  112. Roger_Roger says:

    #111 The 08′ presidental canidates can certainly apply for public financing. Oddly, Hilary Clinton has turned it down in favor of money from Corporations (So has McCain even though the loser crafted the bill). You see, we already have public money in place if they choose to use it. Sadly, they (Dems and Repugs) always go with using private corporate donors instead. Please help me understand how that is ok with the anti-rich crowd?


  113. thelonegunman says:

    gee – didn’t bush just go down to that region and tell them the government “still knows you exist”

    in bush-speak that means “yes – we know you exist, see what a drain you deadbeats are down here, and we’re cutting off your aid!”


  114. Bruce Gorton says:

    Roger_Roger

    First off, your post is a complete non sequitor. It doesn’t relate to anything in this thread.

    I have noticed something funny about you righties over the last few years:

    Whenever a rich guy does something which is not motivated by greed, extreme selfishness or whatever, the right jumps all over him. All good to the rightwing must be a symptom of guilt, and if a rich guy is doing good things he must be guilty of something the dirty hypocrite.

    We lefties just figure good for him.

    Something tells me you righties don’t actually like the rich very much.


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