Wilson Responds: Bush And Cheney Must Explain Why They Outed My Wife
Wilson Responds: Bush And Cheney Must Explain Why They Outed My Wife
Ambassador Joseph Wilson offered his first response to the Scooter Libby verdict during a conference call today.
“Now that this trial is over,” Wilson said, “the president and the vice president owe the country a much broader explanation of their own actions.” Wilson called on them both to release the transcripts of their discussions with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, and called on Bush specifically to apologize for overseeing the outing of his wife:
I also learned today that the president was quoted as saying that he was sorry for Mr. Libby and his family. I wish that he would express his sorrow for what has happened to my wife, whose career was destroyed as a consequence of this, and also to the service people of this country who are fighting in a war that now very clearly was justified by lies and disinformation.
Wilson said he hoped the verdict would teach Libby and other U.S. officials a lesson, that “you don’t abuse the public trust engaging in personal vendettas.” But he said he feared that “they will learn the lesson that several of them apparently learned after Watergate — not the lesson of not abusing power, but rather the lesson…that they should’ve destroyed the tapes.”
UPDATE: FireDogLake has notes from the entire conference call.
UPDATE II: CREW’s Melanie Sloan was also on the call with Wilson. Watch her CNN appearance today HERE.
UPDATE III: John Amato, who was on the call, has more.
Transcript:
WILSON: Well, let me begin by saying that I would hope that Mr. Libby and all other officials in the U.S. government would draw the right lesson from this, and the right lesson to learn from this is you don’t abuse the public trust engaging in personal vendettas. What I probably fear most of all is that they will learn the lesson that several of them apparently learned after Watergate — not the lesson of not abusing power, but rather the lesson that they seemed to have learned is that they should’ve destroyed the tapes. That is the wrong lesson in our democracy to take away from it. So, if they learn the right lesson from it, that would be all to the good for the way that we function as a government.
I have said for quite a while, as you know, that I believe Mr. Rove was involved up to his eyeballs. That became clear when it was made public that Mr. Rove was in fact the source of the compromise of my wife’s identity to Matt Cooper. I’m not going to second-guess decisions that were made by the prosecution. We do have a civil suit in place that hopefully will address some of these larger issues.
I do believe that now that this trial is over, that the president and the vice president owe the country a much broader explanation of their own actions at this time. The president, of course, at one time said that anybody who engaged in this would be fired. Mr. Rove is still on the payroll. So I would, as a start, I would argue — I would ask the president and the vice president to release the transcripts of their interviews with the prosecutor, so as to be able to reassure the American public that they were not — that there is not a cloud over the offices of either of them. I think that would be a good start. I also learned today that the president was quoted as saying that he was sorry for Mr. Libby and his family. I wish that he would express his sorrow for what has happened to my wife, whose career was destroyed as a consequence of this, and also to the service people of this country who are fighting in a war that now very clearly was justified by lies and disinformation.
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LIAR.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:02 pmGO GET ‘EM, JOE!!!!
March 6th, 2007 at 4:03 pmWhat happens to ReichWingNuts when the Progressives are right? Do their heads explode? I know, wishful thinking.
Joe Wilson is RIGHT ON THE MONEY with his comments.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pmIf Bush said this, then he will be pardoning Libby.
And Real RedNeck is a dumba$$.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:05 pm“Now that this trial is over,†Wilson said, “the president and the vice president owe the country a much broader explanation of their own actions.â€
Absolutely. Get busy Bush & Cheney.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pmLIAR.
Comment by Real RedNeck
Yes, you are. But we already knew that about you RR.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmFire ~ Meet feet.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmLet’s see Bush and Cheney do their first man on the sun dance.
LIAR.
Comment by Real RedNeck
Nice to see you showing some insight on your own functioning.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmLOL glad to see you’ve gotten off your sister long enough to post. Too bad you couldn’t post anything substantial enough to respond to. Tell us, enlighten us please how you came to that well thought out conclusion?
March 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmShrub, President Cheney, Libby, Rove, and all their henchmen are traitors who sacrificed national security and potentially many lives by disclosing the identity of a clandestine agent in an act of petty political payback designed to hide the administration’s fraudulent case for war with Iraq. All should be removed from their positions and prosecuted. I hope the Wilsons enjoy what small amount of vindication this verdict may bring them.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmCivilization & War Rant
Bush is not responsible for the war in Iraq. Al Gore said during his campaign against Bush II that Bush I should have finished the job; and we never tire of pretending these days that the Clinton-Gore government was not attacking Iraq…. they were, regularly and lethally. War is inherent to civilization; and that is why we’ll have more and more of it, and why it will eventually percolate from the peripheries populated by Dark Others into our suburbs.
Everything we have that we list in our catalogue of civilization is forged out of fraud, theft, and murder. The cities of the world are built up on fraud, theft, and murder. Show me the exception, and I’ll take it back.
The fine woods and metals and animal guts that make the orchestras, the stones and steel and trees for our libraries, the fabric and workmanship of our clothing, and the food displayed strategically along our supermarket shelves… they all require war. They are taken from cultures who first refuse to cooperate, then who are forced to cooperate or be depopulated.
The expansive and expanding heaps of technomass — of asphalt and glass and plastic and paint and shiny right-angles — are scraped out of hillsides and coastlines, with the corpses of biomes and simpler cultures left behind as the mizzens of this wretched thing called civilization. The more this disease has spread, the more it has manifested and magnified its most acute symptom: war.
Technology is driven by scarcity, and scarcity by pillage, and new technology to correct for the iatrogenesis of the last technology. This is not a mark of superiority, but the cascading catastrophe of power seeking the enslavement of first women, then slaves and colonies and nature…
Conquest is a necessity to continue civilization. How long would this country last as it is without the oil from abroad? What if those abroad said, No? Be real, be realistic before you answer this question with pious abstractions. How long would things stay “stable” hereabouts if the supermarket shelves were suddenly bare? If the shutters went up on WalMart’s windows? How much of what we take for granted each and every day comes from someplace else, where the cop with the truncheon stands near the worker, and the sea lane is kept open by a Naval battle group?
Every “advanced” society exists as a parasite on those less “advanced,” and that can be proven empirically and decisively. Civilization cannot exist in the absence of war, because civilization is itself inherently exploitative. Los Angeles cannot exist without the water from Colorado. New York cannot exist without the “inputs” from abroad. We know damn well this is true, so we conceal it under pretty abstractions like “free market,” and pretend that the wars required to maintain the power of the powerful are moral failures, anomalies within civilization instead of something as intrinsic as long ears on a rabbit.
Bring us to the point where we will at least admit of this truth; and there is a remote chance that we can figure out some tentative first steps how to stop the runaway train… that is, in the end, to change everything.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmDon’t hold your breath Joe but we do understand.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pmThis is a go-nowhere story.
Cheney and Bush will offer no explanations, apologies, and probably won’t even really comment substantively. Do they ever when the light shines on them?
Bush will indeed pardon Libby, who will NEVER reveal the true circumstances behind the entire incident. No tell all, no nothing.
Sorry, cynicism just burrowed deep into my soul….
I’m glad SOMEONE got indicted and convicted, but it really doesn’t make a dent in the atrocious behavior, past and present, of this administration. They, and consequently we as a nation, have sunk as low as we’ve ever been.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:11 pmthey should have destroyed the tapes……exactly. These people don’t consider others damaged lives, only their own position. This cabal is criminal in the extreme and no one seems able to bring them to task. So what if mr libby goes to prison? Nothing has changed. An idiot and his rich friends are still in control and they have shown they will lie and ruin to start illegal wars. No one wants to deal with the real problem, or even admit to it. Chenney Bush is a criminal cabal, by their own admission. What a seriously deranged country.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pmJoe, I’m with you 100%. Just don’t hold your breath.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pmrachel rj kinnardi
Isn’t it enough to “rant” on just one thread without the cut and paste to multiple ones?
March 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pm11. The question is when there is so much war that is unavoidable, why did Bush/Cheney go looking for it in Iraq?
March 6th, 2007 at 4:17 pmAn explanation? From THIS crime family? You’d have a better chance of winning the lottery…TWICE!
March 6th, 2007 at 4:17 pmDoes Paula Jones ring any bells, wingnuts?
It will be very satisfying to have Bush and Cheney on the stand, defending their actions.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:20 pmCivilization & War Rant — rachel
Why every thread? When one would have been enough.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:20 pmLIAR.
Comment by Real RedNeck
Bubba – your name says it all! Yea we’re going to respect your opinion – we just ain’t dumb enough yet. We’ll go watch some Fox News – that seems to make lots of Americans stupider.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:21 pmBush can’t say anything because it’s an ongoing investigation! His ass is covered by layers and layers of bullshit.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:23 pmComment by rachel rj kinnardi
Unlike religion technology does not stay stagnant. Technology builds on itself and the world of science is still young. Science can make it so oil is no longer needed to maintain the current level of civilization and then even increase it. Science can level the playing field in all ways… when robots do all work what good is money?
When man gives up on finding the truth they resort to what is easiest to accomplish their goals… whether a god is invented to explain nature or a war is started to achieve what otherwise would require decades of constant toil… in the end it is just a lack of will to continue struggling to achieve truth untarneshed by fake gods or killing those who stand in your way.
Science is delivering the power to achieve the ever increasing aspirations of human civilization without resorting to our past madness.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:23 pmNow that the truth has been recorded for posterity, the american people need to demand an explanation of the treasonous actions of this administration in all of this. Not only do we deserve a HUGE explanation but I believe the people, in light of the complicity of the people in the two highest offices in this country, need to call for their immediate removal from office. It’s quite simple: On all front, and in all functions of their serious position as leaders of our government, they have failed the people. Not only have they failed the people but they’ve made a mockery of the very laws which this country supports. For this alone, they do not deserve to serve the people in office and will no longer have the faith and respect of the american people.
Besides, didn’t Bush say (via Scottie McClellan) that anyone who was involved in this intentional act of treason (Himself & Cheney) would immediately be removed from his administration. I guess this includes himself now???????
March 6th, 2007 at 4:29 pmOn cnn.com right now: “Vice President Cheney “disappointed” and “saddened” by guilty verdict in perjury trial of his former chief of staff, Lewis “Scooter” Libby.”
March 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pmoff topic, but I found this interesting, moves Obama up a notch in my opinion.
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/03/obama-steps-up-for-wounded-troops.html
March 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pmHe’s right. We, the people, need to get involved and pressure the media do their job by asking the most important question, “What did Bush and Cheney know and when did they know it?” until we get a straight answer. If we don’t, who will?
letters@washpost.com
March 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pmletters@nytimes.com
letters@sfchronicle.com
Editors@newsweek.com
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Wayne,
Sorry I truly forgot. This is really embarassing. I am really sorry. The medicines I take make me forget things something fierce. I have written this rule out on paper now as a reminder.
I am really sorry. I will go now.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:41 pmWilson says of the invasion, occupation, and destruction of Iraq, “…that now (my emphasis) very clearly was justified by lies and disinformation.”
Now, Mr. Wilson? The invasion of Iraq was very clearly justified by lies and disinformation when 23 brave members of the U.S. Senate, and 133 equally brave members of the U.S. House of Representatives voted against it!
The way to show sympathy for Wilson is to safely bring our troops out of harm’s way, NOW, and to thank the members of Congress who saw the light long before Mr. Wilson (and his wife).
March 6th, 2007 at 4:44 pmLIAR.
Comment by Real RedNeck
Know Thyself.
– Socrates.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:46 pmWhat I want to know is if the Brewster Jennings outing got any CIA officers killed. There is one on the “Wall of Honor’ that fits the timeframe and is still classified. Maybe the Wilson’s could help shed light on whether this officer was killed by the outing or not.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:47 pm[...] Watch Video [...]
March 6th, 2007 at 4:47 pmLIAR.
Comment by Real RedNeck
Don’t be so hard on Irving
March 6th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWhile we are delighted (and distracted) by Libby’s conviction, you just know it will continue to be dragged out by appeals, and if all else fails, Bush will pardon him. The investigation, unfortunately, began to uncover the Cheney link, but it didn’t rip it all the way off. Even if Libby actually goes to prision someday, the real villians are escaping punishment. That is Cheney, Bush and all their other affiliates that participated in creating the lies to put us into this horrible war.
So, again…not to distract, but to focus our attention on where it needs to be…that is, bringing this travesty of a war to an end, we now have this result going on with the Dems we put in majority power to end it. Until they do the ONE thing they have the power to do under the Constitution to end the war by ending the funding, this kind of bullcrap will continue.
“Senior House Democrats, seeking to placate members of their party from Republican-leaning districts, are pushing a plan that would place restrictions on President Bush’s ability to wage the war in Iraq but would allow him to waive them if he publicly justifies his position.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/05/AR2007030501604.html?referrer=email
March 6th, 2007 at 4:50 pmCheney & Rove committed treason.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:52 pmThey must be punished w/o pardon.
Investigate. Impeach. Incarcerate.
This fool is drinking spiked tea again. As the trail showed his wife was already outed, that is why Libby or anyone else wasn’t charged with that. She sent this dolt to Niger to drink tea because she didn’t want the U.S. fighting her buddies in Iraq and certainly not Al Qaeda. She is part of the old Clinton CIA, the surrender crowd, terrorist, what terrorists?
March 6th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThe Wilsons need to forge ahead with the class action suit. The evidence uncovered in the trial for Libby shows both Bush and Cheney were directly involved. The suit should be as close to a slam dunk as it can get.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pmp1, you never fail to fail. You are wrong on all accounts. The emporer still has clothes on in your eyes doesn’t he?
March 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pmShe is part of the old Clinton CIA, the surrender crowd, terrorist, what terrorists?
Comment by Patrick1
Ya got nothin’, Patrick. Run along….
March 6th, 2007 at 5:01 pmThis fool is drinking spiked tea again. As the trail showed his wife was already outed, that is why Libby or anyone else wasn’t charged with that. She sent this dolt to Niger to drink tea because she didn’t want the U.S. fighting her buddies in Iraq and certainly not Al Qaeda. She is part of the old Clinton CIA, the surrender crowd, terrorist, what terrorists?
And this one is drinking Kool-Aid again. If she WAS already outed then there could not have been a ‘leak’, therefore no investigation and hence no obstruction that would have taken place! Period. He is part of the water-carrying for the current Bush Crime Family, where King George and his cabal can do no wrong and the dispensable become the fall guys (or gals).
March 6th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI didn’t know that Wilson was a judge.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:03 pmHelp President Bush “uphold the honor and dignity” of the White House…
Enter the “Sentence Scooter” Contest today!
March 6th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHow old can Patrick1 be? 12?
I swear, I cannot make head nor tail out of his latest rants on the AlQaeda/CIA & Plame conspiracy theory… that, plus his one-liners, remind me of wwallace, the inane, prepubescent troll.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:05 pmThe investigation was political. There was no leak because everyone in town knew what she was. She was on the cover of Vanity Fair for goodness sake. No one was charged with leaking her name, you can’t leak someone who runs around in moonbat circles and the DC party circuit. If she was convert then she was the worst secret agent since Get Smart.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmI didn’t know that Wilson was a judge.
Comment by Tracy
I suspect there’s a lot you don’t know.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:10 pm#35 Patrick(IQ of )1,
Obviously, intelligence is not your forte. Let me help you.
- The CIA, and all intelligence agencies, is by charter non-political. The reason for this is abundantly clear for all who have common sense. Since you lack that quality, I will explain using small words: So that bad people don’t use them to do bad things.
- Ms. Plame-Wilson’s group was focusing on Iran, not Iraq. Not only was her career as a patriotic American operative destroyed for political purposes, but the entire operation was exposed. Gee, wouldn’t it be nice to have some intelligence on Iran right now? Sorry, Georgie screwed the pooch on that one and you, as a dolt, are applauding it.
- Mr. Wilson was correct about the Niger information and has been proven so publicly. So, whatever “tea” he was drinking, I would suggest that they start serving it in large quantities around Washington.
Why you hate America, I don’t know. Probably because your mother never loved you but, hey, from what I can see, how can you blame her?
March 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pmThe investigation was political.
Hmmm…but this administration wouldn’t do anything for political reasons now would they? By the way, don’t bother answering P1 cause we already know your talking points aren’t based on logic.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:13 pm#26 Obama introduced, S. 713, the Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act, legislation written to “ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries,â€
Obama is probably more interested in conning people into voting for him than he is in wounded warriors – a term that confirms his acceptance of our militarism.
Obama supported warmonger Joseph Lieberman for the senate and sucked up the other day to AIPAC, an organization that lobbies for the Likud party, supporters of slaughter and mayhem in Lebanon and Palestine and war on Iran, as does Lieberman.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:14 pm#35 Patrick1
This fool is drinking spiked tea again. As the trail showed his wife was already outed, that is why Libby or anyone else wasn’t charged with that. She sent this dolt to Niger to drink tea because she didn’t want the U.S. fighting her buddies in Iraq and certainly not Al Qaeda. She is part of the old Clinton CIA, the surrender crowd, terrorist, what terrorists?
You got all of that completely wrong. You get an “A” for consistency.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThe cons on this board are quite literally treason apologists. As factually inaccurate and hypocritical as their propaganda rants are, I think they contribute something useful to this community by demonstrating just how extreme, corrupt, and out of touch with reality the right wing truly is.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:15 pmScooter Libby was not doing this for his own..
He was doing this for the policy which is set by his bosses and dictated such actions.
Libby was without a doubt the ‘fall guy’.
This is similar to Iran Contra when everything was blamed on Oliver North when in fact the people on the top set the policy and he was just an operative who take orders.
Policy was made to shut off everybody who speaks against th drive to war in Iraq. Wilson and his wife were in the way.
The president’s special economic adviser was told to go also when he said the war might cost around 100 billions;
another military general was told to go because he said the war might need over 500,000 troops to have full control of Iraq.
Now Scooter made to look like the mind behind everything,but is he really?
Not even the jurors believed this.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:15 pm#42 Patrick1
Nope. Still wrong. Every bit of it.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:16 pm#43
I would have to say that same about you….especially in this case.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:18 pmJoe Wilson was sent by his wife to Niger to drink tea. He couldn’t find his ass using both hands. To say the CIA is non-political is naive even by moonbat standards.
Wilson and the Al Qaeda operative Plame destroyed themselves by conducting their own private foreign policy. On the contrary the British and the Iraqi documents and Wilson’s own testimony in front of a Senate Committee show he was full of tea.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:19 pm#42 Patrick(IQ of)1,
Proof please. Oh, that’s right, you don’t even know how to spell “facts”. (And, no, it’s not that fancy electronic gadget that allows you to send documents across phone lines. That’s a “faxâ€.)
Let me help you out on something though: The CRIME was politically motivated. The investigation is ongoing. But, the damage has been done and you are enough of a moron to think that this is all about R vs. D. I hope that you are as stupid as it gets because anyone more stupid than you is guaranteed to be either an extreme danger to society or nominated for the head of FEMA.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:19 pmJoe Wilson biggest liar around.
His wife was not covert when outed.
Read the facts.
Stink Progessives,
March 6th, 2007 at 5:20 pmDo not parrot hufftard, kos, olberman talking points.
Tuber – If Joe Wilson was concerned with his wife’s identity “leaking” why all the public photos? She had not been covert for over 5 years.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:20 pmI would have to say that same about you….especially in this case.
Comment by Tracy
Prove it.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:23 pmPatrick, Patrick. What does the 1 stand for? Your IQ score? The number of frontal lobes you still have intact? the highest number you’ve been able to count to? The number of times you’ve been right about anything?
March 6th, 2007 at 5:23 pmTuber, Tuber, Tuber,
March 6th, 2007 at 5:24 pmur one silly moonbat.
TRACY TROLL: Please stop distracting from serious discussion on this thread.
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
March 6th, 2007 at 5:25 pmProve it.
Comment by Zooey
Zooey another barking moonbat!
March 6th, 2007 at 5:26 pmWow. Try going to cia.gov for confirmation of plame’s covert status, and it’s now encrypted.
Wankers.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:27 pmZooey u must have a big fat ass from sitting all day at the computer.
Get a life lard butt!
March 6th, 2007 at 5:28 pmOn February 4, 2003, the U.S. government provided copies of the Niger uranium documents to the IAEA with talking points which stated, “two streams of reporting suggest Iraq has attempted to acquire uranium from Niger. We cannot confirm these reports and have questions regarding specific claims. Nonetheless, we are concerned that these reports may indicate Baghdad has attempted to secure an unreported source of uranium yellowcake for a nuclear weapons program.” The two streams of reporting refer to the intelligence reports from the foreign intelligence service and a CIA intelligence report reflecting the findings of a former Ambassador’s visit to Niger.
(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com …
March 6th, 2007 at 5:28 pmStink Progessives,
Do not parrot hufftard, kos, olberman talking points.
Then likewise do not parrot Faux News, Limbaugh, Coultergeist, Savage, Beck, Malkin talking points.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:30 pmZooey u must have a big fat ass from sitting all day at the computer.
Get a life lard butt!
Comment by Flaco
Thanks for your concern, Flaco. You must have a caved in head from trying to think — unsuccessfully.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:31 pmZooey another barking moonbat!
Comment by Flaco
Flaco, another warty, stupid troll! Get back under the bridge.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:32 pm#55
Um, gee…maybe it was because once her cover was blown by Novak in the mainstream media her career was already over?
At that point, their interest was to stay in the public eye to prevent more retaliation from this vengeful administration.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:32 pmIf Joe Wilson was concerned with his wife’s identity “leaking†why all the public photos?
Comment by valiant venus — March 6, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Mitey Coprolite, you shouldn’t watch so many 007 movies.
That Plame’s status was classified is spelled out in the indictment against Libby. You, being the star attorney that you are, should be able to make quick work of that document.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:33 pmThe distracting trolls are multiplying: Real RedNeck, Patrick1, valiant venus, Flaco, Tracy, and who next?
Somebody, quick, find a bridge!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLLS!
March 6th, 2007 at 5:35 pmOne problem with post #63…the uranium rubbish was already known to be rubbish a year before the war began. Don’t come on here spewing garbage that we all know are lies. Sheesh…
March 6th, 2007 at 5:35 pmLet’s get back on track. LIBBY IS FOUND GUILTY!!!!! IT’S A GREAT DAY TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!!!
Patrick 1 told me the 1 stands for the sexual conquests he’s attempted. Not too bad for a 54 year old living in mom’s basement.
This just in……..LIBBY IS STILL GUILTY!!!!!!!!!! SO IS CUNNINGHAM!!!!!!!!!!! WITH DELAY ON DECK!!!!!!!!!!
March 6th, 2007 at 5:42 pm#56
You nor I know who really outed Plame.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:43 pmRedstate has been down all day, that’s why the troll surge. This one won’t work either.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:46 pm72 = The Bush Administration. et al. outed Valerie Plame, and they are jointly and severally guilty of Treason – the end.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:52 pmYou nor I know who really outed Plame.
Comment by Tracy
Unlike you, I actually want to find out the truth, and have the person responsbile put on trial.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:52 pmBREWSTER JENNINGS was a front company for the CIA.
Bushco REVEALED its true nature to the world when they decided to out NOC Valerie Plame.
WHERE is the CIA damage assessment from this act of TREASON?
It’s not just about NOC Valerie Plame. Thousands of HUMINT contacts may easily have been lost, outed, imprisoned, or killed — and of course CIA spies also working for Brewster Jennings had their cover blown also.
Cheney is a traitor, along with Libby. Lying to the FBI is MILD, compared to outing our spies. We have to demand JUSTICE for the ENTIRE crime, not just the fringe of an organized effort to defame and out a single NOC.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:55 pm#63 Patrick1
(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com …
Thanks for the tip-off. I probably would never have visited that blog anyway, but now that I know it’s the source of your completely non-factual drivel, I’ll make sure I don’t.
March 6th, 2007 at 5:59 pmReply to # 72:
Let’s set the ignorant troll straight, before we send her on her way.
SOMEONE in the current nasty, corrupt, filthy, lying administration DOES knows who outed Plame. But whoever he/she/they/it is/are, by helping to lie us into the invasion, occupation, and destruction of Iraq, we can’t count on them to ‘FESS UP!”
NOW, UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL TRACY!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:01 pmUnlike you, I actually want to find out the truth, and have the person responsbile put on trial.
Comment by Zooey
Zooey you are so righteous.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:01 pmNot!
Flaco outed her.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:04 pmThanks for the tip-off. I probably would never have visited that blog anyway, but now that I know it’s the source of your completely non-factual drivel, I’ll make sure I don’t.
Comment by chimpeach
March 6th, 2007 at 6:04 pmYea chimp stay on this drivel filled TP site.
Flaco, you are so non-Troll-like.
NOT!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:05 pmThe fact that there is anyone still defending this corrupt junta proves what I always suspected, the far right wing is completely and unmistakably devoid of morals.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:05 pm#55,
Gosh, I don’t pretend to be a CIA mastermind but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
Ms. Plame-Wilson was not an undercover spy sneaking through overseas government operations taking pictures with her lipstick case. She was working as a covert operative at a CIA front company posing as an EXECUTIVE. Therefore, her going out on the town with her husband would actually HELP her cover. Until it was exposed that she was actually a covert CIA operative and her cover was blown. As was the cover of the CIA front company. As was the cover, then, of everyone who worked for that “company”.
This is a simple concept that relies upon one critical factor, and that is that no one find out that the employees of the front company are actually CIA agents.
It was not “known” that Ms. Plame-Wilson was a covert CIA agent. If anything, what was known was that Ms. Plame was an executive at Brewster Jennings.
Does it make sense to you now?
March 6th, 2007 at 6:16 pm#75
I do too, which is why I think Wilson should be put on the stand. BTW what have I said that would lead you to believe that I don’t want to know who really outed Plame?
March 6th, 2007 at 6:16 pmThe Chomsky freaks are out in a feeding frenzy today!
Critical Thinkers / Noam Chomsky = Oxymoron
March 6th, 2007 at 6:16 pmLIAR.
Comment by Real RedNeck — March 6, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Actually, this troll may have been talking about Scooter. He is indeed a LIAR. He was just convicted of this by a jury of his own peers. Is that what you were talking about? Yes, that is horrible!
What amazes me is that these trolls somehow enjoy hanging out with people who most likely hate them. I could NEVER see myself posting regularly on a right-wing board just to annoy them. That is really sick behavior. I would rather hang out with my lefty friends. Or maybe these trolls just have no friends so they hang out here trying to annoy us. Truly sad!!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:18 pmTuber you have lost it dude.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:19 pmWhere is your medicine and mommy?
Seriously, Joe Wilson, blow me.
“The president, of course, at one time said that anybody who engaged in this would be fired.”
Maybe you weren’t listening Joe, what, with all the shit in your ears, but Bush said that anyone who committed A CRIME would be fired. Rove has not even been charged with a crime, so go cry everyone a god damn river.
You want them to release the transcripts of their testimony? Why don’t we put you on the stand? Why not release all the interviews you gave to Nicholas Kristof and other reporters where you lied your ass off?
Sorry, but Joe Wilson is a phony, end of story.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:20 pm#75
BTW what have I said that would lead you to believe that I don’t want to know who really outed Plame?
That is Zooeys style, always putting people in their place.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:22 pmI REALLY like this inbred Bushite…
…Real RedNeck…
…It’s the best Bush/Cheney WH lawn jockey…
…on TP…
March 6th, 2007 at 6:25 pmNaaah the Trolls defeding traitors are on a roll today.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:25 pmReply to # 86:
Flaco Troll, this thread is not about YOU, nor is it about Chomsky. It is about Wilson’s reply to the Libby verdict. I would ask you to stay on topic, but I have seen your previous troll tactics. The whole purpose of your presence on this thread is to distract us from the topic!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:26 pmhterrya
Take your own advice.
Ignore the trolls yourself asshat!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:30 pmThis is America!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:32 pmTrolls are people too!
We are all doomed.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:34 pmFlaco´s powerful debating skills just arrived.
Zooey you are so righteous.
Comment by Flaco
That is Zooeys style, always putting people in their place.
Comment by Flaco
Thank you, Flaco, you’re so kind.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:37 pmFlaco´s powerful debating skills just arrived.
Comment by Juan C
The left ought to just give up now…. :P
March 6th, 2007 at 6:38 pmJuan C the great masterbator himself!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:38 pmReply to # 95.
At least you admit to being a troll.
UNDER THE BRIDGE!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:39 pmhttp://www.glocom.org/special_topics/eu_report/20031201_eureport_s64/index.html
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2004/01/plame200401
http://www.glocom.org/special_topics/eu_report/20031201_eureport_s64/index.html
‘Aznar’s resolve seems unshaken by the bloody 24-hour period that has witnessed the killing of seven Spaniards, two American, two Japanese, two South Koreans and a Colombian. However, the Spanish public has been greatly disturbed by recent events. With an election on the horizon, there may soon be some shift in Spanish policy towards Iraq.’
The Madrid bombing happened after this where Joe’s operations officer father diplomat worked and Joe grew up.
Plame was confirmed as an operations officer, paramilitarily trained, by Larry C Johnson just before the Iran desk at State(CIA) came out and Jim Marcowki(sp) back to their farm days training.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
Joe should have been instantly whisked to a tv studio for a live interview and that interviews dissemination. An audio clip will have the fraction of the impact footage playing all day would on the news outlets.
Why, oh why aren’t liberals more strategic like the douchebags on the right?
March 6th, 2007 at 6:42 pmHeh,
March 6th, 2007 at 6:43 pmhterrya another lemming
hterra can’t u just move to another post here on TP.
This one is mine! Hahahahahahahahahah (evil laugh)
March 6th, 2007 at 6:45 pm#89-Lucifer,
I always knew you were a REPUBLICAN!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:47 pm#88-Puddle,
I see your problem, you are allergic to reality and facts. That must suck for you, but now I see why you decided to become a Republican, self preservation.
Good riddance.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:50 pm“This one is mine! Hahahahahahahahahah (evil laugh)”
Comment # 104, by Flaco — March 6, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
No, silly troll, you just think this thread is YOURS.
It belongs to Think Progress, and the Think Progress administrator of this thread allows you to post here, because the folks at Think Progress are fair minded and hospitable. They are so hospitable, in fact, that they allow me to say to you, once more:
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
March 6th, 2007 at 6:53 pmJoe Wilson and his wife are media whores plain and simply.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:54 pmSo much for their cover.
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
Fair minded, just look at the stories they run dude.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:57 pmYou might just be the next Bill Maher u funny!!!
Politics in the Bush Admin. trumps everything: integrity, honesty and morality. It’s politics, which, in their case, encompasses personal wealth, but the Constitution is the most damaged in their reign of power. The welfare of the people (the nation) no matter how much they proclaim their patriotism, the Bushies are concerned only for themselves and their own welfare.
#84 a nice and concise explanation that even a troll should be able to comprehend. Not that they will do so, however, because their minds are closed, but you have made an excellent, clear attempt at explaining Plame’s identity.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:59 pmReply to #109:
Just like a NeoCon! Repeat something SEVEN times, and then don’t DO it!
GET UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
March 6th, 2007 at 7:03 pmSome American could care less about our troops dying in Iraq because of Bush/Cheney’s lies. If Bush invaded Iran illegally these people would still support him but would never join the military to fight. Notice Bush/Cheney are ready to lie and send our kids to die but wouldn’t protect this country during Vietnam. Yes Bush was drunk and scared so Daddy got him out before his follow soldiers left to fight. Cheney got the 5 deferments he was so scared and one for his wife having a baby. Now I remember their were thousands of married soldiers who wives were having babies but these man were real men so they went to combat. Now during the election Kerry who served twice was called a coward as the real cowards were laughing at the American people for being so stupid. Karl Rove used God and like the bible says the people followed Satan and now say their sorry.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:11 pmhttp://slate.msn.com//id/2103795/
March 6th, 2007 at 7:15 pmI have a question for all the Trollsand other wingbats here. How many Iranians who worked for Ms. Plame were tourtured or died as a result of the Administration’s Crimminal Action in outing Ms. Plame.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:17 pmBy blowing her cover, they guarenteed that if caught working for the Great Satan as the hardliners in Iran call us, they would suffer this fate.
Bother your Conscience a little bit? Thats assuming you Trolls have one!
[...] Wilson Responds: Bush And Cheney Must Explain Why They Outed My Wife [...]
March 6th, 2007 at 7:19 pmWe also lost a potential Gold Mine of Information on Iran’s presumed Nuclear Weapons program. Also what it is exactly that they’re doing in Iraq. That would give us a potential leg up in countering those tactics. But, sadly that isn’t happening now, is it?
March 6th, 2007 at 7:23 pmComment by Tracy — March 6, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
I’m surprised you showed up considering gas prices are steadily on the rise….
http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/
National Unleaded Average
Regular
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Month Ago Avg. $2.175
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March 6th, 2007 at 7:26 pm#115, That’s the true tragedy of this affair. Not only did they commit treason by exposing an agent, but they threw away one of the main sources of intel that we need so much today.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:29 pm#114
Nice fake empathy
I’ll bet you have no problem sleeping Jim dude.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:36 pmMarie and Jim,
You guys work for the US Dept. of State?
You seem to know so much.
Do you use Google?
March 6th, 2007 at 7:40 pmMy empathy is authentic. Those that worked for Ms. Plame believed in what they were doing. They thought that they were helping bring a better future to Iran. The tragedy is that their lives were destroyed for a petty payback. Because Mr. Wilson told the truth and called Bull S**t on the Bushies for taking us into a bad war based on bald faced lies and obfuscations.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:44 pmAs for you Flaco, you’re a Troll and nothing more. You’re opinion, such as it is doesn’t count for anything.
Flaco, I know more than you’ll ever care to learn you ignorant idiot. And no, I don’t work for the State Department.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:46 pmThanks Jim
for putting me in my place.
You are a real man.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:49 pmIt doesn’t matter what the trolls lament about and it doesn’t matter what names they get called. What matters is that a senior admin official in the employ of a petty, vindictive, vulgar ( go fuck yourself) VP decided to LIE when questioned by a federal prosecutor and grand jury. It’s not just the value of the info that was leaked it or who it was leaked to, it was the decision to LIE. It would have behooved him to have taken the fifth, say nothing, but he chose to LIE. That the decision to LIEcame so easily speaks volumes. This is what the trolls don’t understand as lying to them becomes second nature when done in what they consider defense of their supposed cause. What matters is that LIE came with an exceptional cost to everyone: The American public who were duped into supporting a war, Libby now convicted and his life destroyed and once again the American public bitch slapped when Bush pardons him.
March 6th, 2007 at 7:52 pmLucifer, Flaco and other Bush cultists, Scott McClellan, Bush’s secretary, was speaking for Bush when he said, “if anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.”
The very next day, a reporter reminded Bush of McClellan’s words and asked Bush if he agreed with McClellan. Bush said, “yes.”
During the trial, it came out that at least 10 members of the administration were “involved in it.” Now, obviously you hold your cult leader to a lower standard than most — that’s part of being in a cult. But, really, are your standards so low and your view so delusional that you can’t bring yourself to admit that you have been wrong about this entire affair. Flaco, you’re going to have to come up with a better argument than “you’re all moonbats!” And, Lucifer, now that you’ve finished trashing Joe Wilson, you might consider that the President’s father called him a hero for valiantly standing up to Saddam Hussein during the first gulf war. I’m guessing the guy has just a little more courage than you do on your best day.
You’re both just pathetic.
March 6th, 2007 at 8:00 pmBush pardons him…
He learned that from Bubba
March 6th, 2007 at 8:11 pmNo, He would have learned that from Jerry Ford.
March 6th, 2007 at 8:12 pmBluedog you are probably not a true moonbat
but that is who you hang with here at Stink Progress.
You are in denial and need help.
March 6th, 2007 at 8:14 pmCall it is a 24hrs hotline
I 800 IAM MOONBAT
It said plainly in the indictment of Libby that Plame was undercover. Someone outed her. And it wasn’t Joe. So you little cry baby trolls go home and cry.
March 6th, 2007 at 8:18 pmFlaco, go home and cry, you’re a mess and shouldn’t be seen in public like this.
March 6th, 2007 at 8:18 pm[...] Libby found guilty on 4 of 5 counts, faces up to 20 years in prison. Howard Dean’s take. Joseph Wilson’s take. Steve Benen’s take. Funny how everybody’s talking about Cheney, not [...]
March 6th, 2007 at 9:00 pmMENDACIOUS SOCIOPATHIC MASS-MURDERING WAR CRIMINALS AND INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS, NAZI-FASCIST TIN-POT DICTATORS LIKE CHIMPya and Torticola Cheney DON’T THINK THEY DID ANYTHING WRONG–ACTUALLY THEY DON’T THINK AT ALL–SO WAITING FOR THEM TO EXPLAIN THEIR ACTIONS WILL BE LIKE WAITING FOR HELL TO FREEZE OVER, SO LET US SEND CHIMPya and Cheney TO HELL AND LET THEM EXPLAIN THEIR ACTIONS TO THEIR MASTER–SATAN!!!!!
March 6th, 2007 at 10:50 pm“No, He would have learned that from Jerry Ford.
Comment by Jim — March 6, 2007 @ 8:12 pm”
Are you referring to Ford granting amnesty to the traitor kerry?
March 6th, 2007 at 11:25 pm“Bring us to the point where we will at least admit of this truth; and there is a remote chance that we can figure out some tentative first steps how to stop the runaway train… that is, in the end, to change everything.
Comment by rachel rj kinnardi — March 6, 2007 @ 4:09 pm”
Hey rachel, I thought you were smart? You take an article written by Stan Goff and post it on this blog as if you wrote it?
March 6th, 2007 at 11:32 pm“Civilization & War Rant — rachel
Why every thread? When one would have been enough.
Comment by Wayne — March 6, 2007 @ 4:20 pm”
Because she’s a child!
March 6th, 2007 at 11:33 pm“Sorry I truly forgot. This is really embarassing. I am really sorry. The medicines I take make me forget things something fierce. I have written this rule out on paper now as a reminder.
I am really sorry. I will go now.
Comment by rachel rj kinnnardi — March 6, 2007 @ 4:41 pm”
Medicines you take? I’ll bet they’re for your brain?
March 6th, 2007 at 11:35 pmMedicines you take? I’ll bet they’re for your brain?
Comment by michael — March 6, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
You should get the prescription – you could use them dum bass!
March 7th, 2007 at 12:02 amAre you referring to Ford granting amnesty to the traitor kerry?
Comment by michael — March 6, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Earlier you claimed it was Carter than granted amnesty. Which time were you lying? We know the answer is both – but back up your smears – fcukhead.
March 7th, 2007 at 12:03 am“Earlier you claimed it was Carter than granted amnesty. Which time were you lying? We know the answer is both – but back up your smears – fcukhead.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 7, 2007 @ 12:03 am”
My mistake, it was Carter!
March 7th, 2007 at 12:10 am“You should get the prescription – you could use them dum bass!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 7, 2007 @ 12:02 am”
Really? Why’s that?
March 7th, 2007 at 12:11 am“but back up your smears – fcukhead.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 7, 2007 @ 12:03 am”
Not only are you very dumb but you also can’t spell!
March 7th, 2007 at 12:16 am“dum bass!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 7, 2007 @ 12:02 am”
Brilliant!
March 7th, 2007 at 12:17 amNot only are you very dumb but you also can’t spell!
Comment by michael — March 7, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Talking to yourself again – dum bass?
March 7th, 2007 at 1:06 amMy mistake, it was Carter!
Comment by michael — March 7, 2007 @ 12:10 am
Yet you have no proof for either lie – that makes you a st*pid lying c*nt.
March 7th, 2007 at 1:08 amBrilliant!
Comment by michael — March 7, 2007 @ 12:17 am
A word that will never be used to describe you – stupid old lazy fcuking st*pid desk hugging coward!
March 7th, 2007 at 1:08 amYeah mikey, Chimpy will probably take a page out of daddies book, not Willies. Daddy Bush protecting his own ass by pardoning Casper Wineberger to avoid him spilling all the Iran Contra shit. Remember that numbnuts? Like father, like son.
March 7th, 2007 at 1:40 amAmbassador Wilson,
Today’s verdict is a victory for Truth. The people of this nation owe a debt of gratitude to Patrick Fitzgerald for his tireless perseverance in delivering justice to you and your family and for restoring faith in our all but broken judicial system.
In commemoration, sing along to
THE PLAME GAME
http://tootruthy.blogspot.com/2007/03/httpwww.html
March 7th, 2007 at 1:47 am[...] five weeks holed up io a cave in Parkistan? Evidently yes. Wilson is shouting lunacy.  From Think Pr0gress: I also learned today that the president was quoted as saying that he was sorry for Mr. Libby and [...]
March 7th, 2007 at 6:28 amGive ‘em hell, Ambassador.
March 7th, 2007 at 10:58 am[...] Secretary Scott McClellan echoed Joseph Wilson’s call for Bush administration officials to explain their actions in the CIA leak case. “I would be advising the White House to get out there and find some way to talk about [...]
March 7th, 2007 at 12:22 pmI greatly admire the Wilsons tenacity and stamina to keep up the good fight !
March 7th, 2007 at 12:40 pm#119
Wasn’t this gas price rise a mute point?….according to you, considering you claimed that the deal was for a month after November 20, 2006? So why are you bringing it up? Anyway, the NATIONAL average, which BTW I am glad you finally accept what “average” we need to be using here, needs to rise to $2.80 by the end of the month…again, according to your own words.
March 7th, 2007 at 2:35 pmJoe Wilson is a pig and a traitor. He knows Nigeria was trying to sell yellowcake to Saddam, it’s their major export. His wife was not a covert agent, all her neighbors knew she worked for the CIA, she was probably just a fancy secretary or office manager…
absurd thought -
March 10th, 2007 at 9:18 amGod of the Universe says
Saddam had no nukes
.