Lieberman, McConnell Once Sponsored Bill They Now Claim Would Create ‘Constitutional Crisis’
Lieberman, McConnell Once Sponsored Bill They Now Claim Would Create ‘Constitutional Crisis’
Last month, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) notably warned of a “constitutional crisis” if Congress tried to influence the President’s conduct of the war in Iraq:
This non-binding measure before us is a first step toward a constitutional crisis that we can and must avoid. … Congress has been given constitutional responsibilities. But the micro-management of war is not one of them. The appropriation of funds for war is.
Likewise, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) argued that Congress has “only one option” to change direction in Iraq — cutting funds for the mission:
If the Senate doesn’t support the mission in Iraq, it has only one option, and that’s to decide whether or not to fund that mission. That’s our constitutional role, and we shouldn’t drag this into the morass of Democratic presidential primary politics.
Lieberman and McConnell are wrong — and they know it. Just eight years ago, McConnell, Lieberman, and others co-sponsored legislation to authorize the deployment of U.S. forces for airstrikes — but not ground forces — in Kosovo.
The Senate did not put McConnell’s words of opposition to ground forces into an authorization, but the House did. On April 28, 1999, with U.S. troops already in combat, the House approved, 249-to-180, a bill to prohibit funds from being used for the deployment of U.S. ground forces into Yugoslavia unless that deployment was specifically authorized by law. Speaking on the House floor, then-House Majority Whip Tom Delay (R-TX) criticized President Clinton’s decision to bomb in Kosovo:
Normally, and I still do, support our military and the fine work that they are doing. But before we get deeper embroiled into this Balkan quagmire, I think that an assessment has to be made of the Kosovo policy so far. Was it worth it to stay in Vietnam to save face? What good has been accomplished so far? Absolutely nothing.
The Lieberman/McConnell “constitutional crisis” is a myth. Their Kosovo bill is just one example of many where Congress has sought (sometimes successfully) to place limits on a president’s war power using means other than simply cutting funds. Full details in this new report by American Progress fellows Mara Rudman and Denis McDonough.
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Fu*k you Liberman.
March 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pmWe already have a constitutional crisis … the president is ripping up the constitution… checking his power grab will reestablish the power of the constitution.
March 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWho cares!!!
You have the Iraq War spending bill in front of you right now. Why all this BS arguements. Just vote no, the war ends, your happy. What is the damn hold up?
It sounds like your simply stalling with all this crap. This kind of stuff can be worked out after you stop the war, which you could do this week if you choose to. Start walking the walk. You talked about wanting to end this war to get elected, so vote like it already!
March 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmThe constitutional crisis has begun and only impeachment can bring about a resolution.
March 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmDon’t worry, Lieberman the scum will provide a Rumsfeldesque explanation such as: “Everything changed after 9/11. We were not attacked by the Al Qaeda that wasn’t in Kosovo, we were attacked by the Al Qaeda that wasn’t in Iraq.”
Any questions?
P.S. F.U. CT!
March 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmAnd I’m supposed to be surprised that these used-car salesmen are speaking out both sides of thier thin-lipped mouths? Thier ship is going down in shark-infested waters and I couldn’t be happier.
March 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pmCould this relate to the fact that it was the ( peaceful civilian) Muslims in the Balkans who were being ethnically cleansed?
March 7th, 2007 at 4:59 pmAs opposed to the current situation, where the militant Islamists are kicking the so-called coalition’s butt?
The constitutional crisis has begun and only impeachment can bring about a resolution.
Comment by jill
If they won’t impeach, we need to have a “million man” march on Washington, throw a necktie party and then start over with new representation in the White House and the House/Senate
March 7th, 2007 at 4:59 pmThe criminals are allowed to run rampant and are bleeding this country dry. It has to be stopped, one way or the other.
ROGER!!! for fu*k sake! its YOU’RE!!
as if YOUR post wasn’t idiotic enough you have to butcher English in the process?!
March 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmWOW. just. WOW.
you GOTTA love that quote from Tom Delay.. definitely gonna spread that one around. What a bunch of hypocrites.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmand what a sniveling little whore Liberman is…
March 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmSo the US Congress just play a ‘paymaster’ role. Write the checks,and no say to what is happening.
What if the war was based on lies….shall the Congress stay silent,or shall the Congress question,and open an investigation of how the war started…
According to Lieberman,a staunch AIPAC
March 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pmShhh !!! Don’t speak of this !! Let Lieberman and the GOP senate sink with Bush, it will be so fun to watch !!
March 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pm“Beltway Joe” is showing is true face everytime he opens his mouth. Bet the main stream media won’t show this just like they didn’t show all the republcians slamming Clinton for the war while the troops were in harms way.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pmCaption:
March 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pm“I should’ve worn the blue tie today…”
I don’t get it. You guys regularly rip Lieberman a new one, but you don’t get on all the chicken-sh*t dems who are too afraid to stop the funding for the war.
By not demanding that they take this step you are letting them get away with paying lip service to your cause without really doing anything.
Can someone explain to me why you guys tolerate this? Your supposed allies in Congress are silently laughing at you…
March 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#9 What is it? You to scared to engage the meat of my post? Honestly, I have asked this question for days now without an answer. I don’t understand why this crowd continues to dodge this issue. Your leaders have a simple way to end this war. Dailykos even acknowledges this is true, as does most everyone in Washington. So, what is the reason for continually ducking away from an answer?
March 7th, 2007 at 5:27 pmRoger_Roger and Cynicon Implant
The troll king wants you home now.
But first this is not where we communicate with our representatives. And we’re definitely not giving you the links that we use to do so. This is where we gather the information we need to take to them to get the job done. And you’re so happy with your leaders that you just argue with us. When we want your advice about OUR party we’ll ask or we’ll go watch Fox News.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:36 pm#17 – RR,
March 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmThe answer to your query is quite simple. If Congress withholds funds from our forces in Iraq, Bush will stop sending them equipment and ammo. After that runs out, he will leave those who survive the option of swimming back or fighting with rocks and spears. Meanwhile, he will fly all Haliburton and Black Water empoyees in the theater home in Lear Jets wth wet bars.
#17 – Roger_Roger, you do have a point.
For the previous 6 years the majority went out of their way to add major pork to spending bills and “war time funding” bills. When the Democrats voted against the “pork”, the Republicans spun the news to say “See!?!? The Dems are refusing to support money for the Troops!”
Now that the Dems are in majority status, either they continue to legacy of the Repugs and laden down all the War and Military bills with extra legislation like “You can’t attack Iran without Senate & House Approval” and “No money will be spent on moving troops closer to Attack Iran” and say “See?!?! The Repugs HATE our troops! They refuse to vote FOR our TROOPS on this measure!”
OR, the Dems should put forward legislation that states “Well, now that we’ve been in Iraq for longer than WW-II lasted, why don’t you give us ONE SINGLE METRIC FOR SUCCESS!?!?!?!? JUST ONE!!!!” It would be great to hear Pres. Bush say “Hey, I never had to explain how the war was supposed to be “won” before, why are you all hating me now?!?”
Well, Roger_Roger, I understand your impatience on this issue. The Dem’s were brought back on a tide of “This is a f!@#$%^ stupid war were were lied into, why the h3!! are we still there?!??!” sentiment.
It’s interesting that nobody has held the President to ANY standard for six years, but everyone seems to be upset that the Dems haven’t done much beyond the 100 hour agenda after being in majority for less than six months.
I guess Republican President’s get a different standard for behavior than Democratic Congress members.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:51 pmsounds like yet another criminal conspiracy. they was for it before they were against it. hmmm..
March 7th, 2007 at 5:51 pmMeanwhile, he will fly all Haliburton and Black Water empoyees in the theater home in Lear Jets wth wet bars.
Will Nancy Pelosi be the stewardess?
March 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmWhere’s Senator Wank’s chin? Did it fall off in Mitch’s lap while so heatedly engrossed in the daily BJ exchange?
March 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThere is nothing this little a**hole wouldn’t say to get his way.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThis is all just leftist game playing. They want to surrender to Al Qaeda but they know the American people don’t and if they try and force their beliefs through then they will be responsible for the consequences. We know that the last thing a liberal wants anyone to take is responsibility.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThe Repugs would love to have the Dems try to cut the funding for Bush’s Debacle. That would give them the ammunition to scream that the Dems are losing this war! If only we had got behind bush, we would have won!!!
It would be a fruitless gesture of political suicide. And that’s all the Repugnicunts care about, cover for their King.
It always amazes me how the bush defenders will defend their loser regardless of the consequences for America and for our troops. “Send another 20k into the meat grinder? Well if bush says so, we will just line up like good little brownshirts and support him.”
I would like to see every bush supporter have their eyelids surgically removed, so whenever they get in the sun or wind, they would be reminded of the pain our soldiers feel.
There is a special hell for you traitors.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pm#22-Patrick(IQ of)1,
No, the word is that your mother will be. Apparently she provides a “happy ending” for a conservative price.
The bad news for the Haliburton and Blackwater dudes is that STDs that come with the package are pretty severe. But I’m sure that you knew that already.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmWhy is it a surprise that this modern day “Benedict Arnold” from Connecticut undercut the party he so claims to have esteem for.The guy is scum and the shame belongs to the voters of Connecticut,particularly the African American voters who embraced this racist after he smeared 2 prominent African American(Jesse Jackson & Sharpton) civil rights activists.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmAnd Eleanor Holmes Norton who travelled from DC to Connecticut to campaign for this traitor Lieberman.I hope you are all proud of your efforts.
#19 If this crowd believes what you just said, I am arguing with morons. Cheney himself has said this war ends if the Dems vote no to the money. Bush even acknowledged that congress can end this war by voting no to the money. Not only would they not be that foolish, they wouldn’t be allowed to do it by the American public. #18 and #19 respond to me by dodging the question once again. You want a fake discussion about ending this war. You want that discussion to go forever for politcal gain. You hate the sounds of any quick answer that would end debate and end the war because that doesn’t gain you enough power.
I’ll give you the answer you know is true.
You will vote yes and support this war because it calculates to more politcal power and more seats. While your against this war, your leaders are to scared to vote against it in this manner. They are content with non binding resolutions so they can proclaim to the public how they proved they were against it. This is why this war will go on a very long time and probably long after to 2008 presidental elections are over. You have no spine to actually stop the war as fast as you could because your scared of the political fallout.
On one side I have the repugs that mismanaged and got us into a war the US public doesn’t want. On the other hand I have the Dems who vowed to end this war like the US public asked for but is to chicken to provide the leadership they asked for and end this thing like they promised.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pmWill Nancy Pelosi be the stewardess?
Comment by Patrick1 — March 7, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
No, Rove will. He prefers the pantyhose and tight skirts.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:57 pm#19 If this crowd believes what you just said, I am arguing with morons. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 7, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
If you don’t want to argue with morons – stop talking to yourself in the mirror.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:58 pmWe know that the last thing a liberal wants anyone to take is responsibility.
Ironic, since this Administration refuses to take responsibility for anything it does or says…
March 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pmMaybe right-wing nut jobs can be rounded up and sent off to Dubai for the boy-toy slave trade. We can start with Patrick, since he is so expert in the difference between what’s wite and wong wiv wiberals.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:01 pmThere is nothing right about liberalism. If the left really believes that surrender is the best option why don’t they pass a bill saying we surrender and will withdraw all our troops to Okinawa and will be responsible for any future attack by Islamo Fascism. I won’t hold my breath.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:03 pm#29-R2,
12 years of scum and corruption do not get cleaned up in 2 months. Unless you take the republican approach and try and just sweep issues under the rug or ignore them and tell people that some deity told them to do so.
I agree that the Iraq “war” must end immediately and, like many others here, I am petitioning my representatives, Senators, and fellow Americans constantly.
I have an anti-war message on my vehicle, do you?
I have anti-war and anti-bush messages on my house, do you?
I attend anti-war rallies and protests (though I’m in California so its a bit like preaching to the choir), do you?
Your empty rhetoric is getting tiresome and your message is so shallow that an ant can walk through it without getting its ankles wet.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmThere is nothing right about liberalism. Comment by Patrick1 — March 7, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
You missed the word ‘wing’ after ‘right’, you dum bass. You’re correct, there’s also nothing ‘right’ about the ‘right’ either – fool.
If the left really believes that surrender is the best option why don’t they pass a bill saying we surrender and will withdraw all our troops to Okinawa and will be responsible for any future attack by Islamo Fascism. I won’t hold my breath. Comment by Patrick1 — March 7, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
Dorothy, just because you like strawmen, doesn’t mean the wizard will protect in you Kansas. Why would we listen to a Christfascist like you that would bomb Oklahoma City, Abortion Clinics, etc. anyway? The problem is ALL fascists – especially domestic ones like yourself! You are no different than Osama, except in wardrobe!
March 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmYou won’t see that bill, because the left is not for surrender. We are for going after our enemy. His name is Osama bin Laden.
If the right is for wars of choice against the wrong people, why doesn’t the right pass a bill saying that republicans are superior and will kill anybody who doesn’t think the same thing?
You are a fool who needs to get back in school. If you miss too many days, they can throw your mommy in jail or charge her for your unexcused absences.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:10 pm#34 The Dems are proving they won’t end this war any time soon. They talk the talk, but are failing to actually do anything about it. They talked about “real leadership” and “ending the war” alot trying to get elected. Now, unlike real leaders, refuse to step up and actually end this war when giving the chance. The party loyalists amazingly still try to defend them when they can or simply dodge any tough question.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“We are for going after our enemy. His name is Osama bin Laden.”
Spudge,
We don’t always agree (to say the least), but I am very glad to see that you are not one of the “9/11-was-an-inside-job-by-the-PNAC (or Mossad)(or CIA)” conspiracy crowd…
March 7th, 2007 at 6:21 pm#38-R2,
I smell the fear coming from you. It stinks, but it’s funny.
Everyone here sees through your charade. Just as everyone here, and any sane individual, knows that complaining that a new congress that is just 2 months into its work has not accomplished enough is the logic of fools and malcontents.
Look to the horizon. See that wave coming big and fast? Either hop on your board and get ready for a great ride or be prepared to be engulfed. And try not to wet your pants in fear. I know, that’s a lot to ask.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:24 pmMy present IQ is 172 at 67. I was 193 at 16 (my peak). I know programming languages from microcode (that’s below the stuff we call assembly language (which I also know)) to C++ and beyond. I wrote the algorithm that is the basis for current floating point accelerators. I also wrote the initial bootstrap that starts most PC’s even today. RR, what is your claim to fame?
March 7th, 2007 at 6:30 pmI’m sorry but Joe Libermann really makes me sick to my stomach. He’s such a turn coat and suck up I can’t stand him. This guy puts Israel first and that’s why he thinks the way he does. The Republicans are playing him like a foul and he can’t see it. Sad, sad, sad, turtle man, you need to wake up and smell the coffee. If you want to view a great blog, check out: http://www.plainnews.blogspot.com.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:42 pm“My present IQ is 172 at 67. I was 193 at 16 (my peak).”
Reaaallllly – you sure fooled me!!!! You may be brilliant but have you checked your socks to make sure they match? I have a Mensa sister – -super smart and utterly lacking in common sense…..but we love her in spite of her goofiness. BTW, what’s your “humility quotient”? Zero….
March 7th, 2007 at 6:43 pm“We are for going after our enemy. His name is Osama bin Laden.”
Bravo!!!! Now, what was your opinion of monitoring domestic terror suspects?
March 7th, 2007 at 6:46 pmBushco has put the Democrats in a position where they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Since his buddies (Bremer, Halliburton, etal), lost so many taxpayer $billions that need to be made up, and our troops, overseas and here in hospitals and VA Med Centers, need so much funding, the Dems are faced with: a) spending lots of money and having to ‘raise’ taxes (eliminate Bush’s tax breaks for millionnaires (sp? My brain’s foggy tonight), thereby inciting the Rethugs to shout “tax and spend Democrats”; or b) cut off funding for Iraq and have the Rethugs shout “cut and run Democrats”, etc. I HATE the position that Bushco has put Democrats (and all of America and the world) in, all because of his and his friends’ greed and ignorance!
March 7th, 2007 at 6:49 pmWe don’t always agree (to say the least), but I am very glad to see that you are not one of the “9/11-was-an-inside-job-by-the-PNAC (or Mossad)(or CIA)†conspiracy crowd…
Comment by Exley
There are questions about 9/11 not answered. And PNAC is real.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:49 pmDon’t kid yourself.
But Osama bin Forgotten did claim 9/11 and was behind the Cole Bombing.
Afganistan was the war we should be concentrating on.
Iraq was started on lies, and Bush/Cheney haven’t stoppedlyingyet.
Bravo!!!! Now, what was your opinion of monitoring domestic terror suspects? Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
If they’re a suspect, then we have ’cause’, right? In which case, there’s never been a complaint or issue with this. That is, beyond getting you fcuking Nazis to follow the law, and get warrants for your activities.
Eat a tic-tac Venus, your arguments are as thin as your boney *ss.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:51 pm“There is a special hell for you traitors.”
Comment by nanlichi
I suspect Benedict Arnold, Ramsey Clark and Jack Murtha can keep each other company in that same hell. All served our country militarily – all sold her out.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:53 pmReaaallllly – you sure fooled me!!!! Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
It’s not hard to fool a fcuking moron.
You may be brilliant but have you checked your socks to make sure they match? Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Ah, that anti-intellectualism we’ve come to suspect from *redneck* humorists that are insecure about how st*pid they are. Are you even wearing socks, you id*ot?
I have a Mensa sister – -super smart and utterly lacking in common sense….. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Ah, more of the *fake* family b*llsh*t from the resident sl*t. If you do have a sister, she clearly inherited all of the brains, manners and looks! She probably ate all of your food as well, you Anorexic freak.
but we love her in spite of her goofiness. BTW, what’s your “humility quotient� Zero…. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Everyone’s humility quotient is higher than yours, you arrogant c*nt!
March 7th, 2007 at 6:54 pmI suspect Benedict Arnold, Ramsey Clark and Jack Murtha can keep each other company in that same hell. All served our country militarily – all sold her out. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Then we have the Dick Cheney, George Bush, Tucker Carlson, and Douglas Feith – that didn’t serve, and sold our military out for Halliburton and pride.
You’re a fcuking st*pid c*nt.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:55 pmHey valiant venus, why aren’t you in Pakistan looking for Osama Been Forgotten?
March 7th, 2007 at 6:56 pm#43 – valiant venus,
March 7th, 2007 at 7:00 pmActually, I am humbled by my dad. He had about 170 patents, I only have 12.
Jane – One might think the Dems, empowered by the people, might rise up and right the wrongs of “Bushco”. Don’t worry about being called “tax and spend” Democrats – John Edwards has already proudly promised to raise taxes….and we saw how far that stance took President Mondale!
The fractious Dems are split between the moderate BlueDogs and the leftists Progressive Dems of America.
P.S. You blame George Bush for the position Dems are in – blame Democrats. They voted for granting war powers and when the campaign got ugly, changed their minds and hoped to take back those votes. In short – they don’t know HOW to lead. Spinal transplants may assist your anemic party.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:00 pmAll served our country militarily – all sold her out. Comment by valiant venus
Your hero Shrubby sold out the wounded veterans to a no bid contract to one of Cheney’s ex-Haliburton buddies.
You like your republican pimps never supported the troops. It is YOU that is a traitor, because of your support for the band of Criminals in the White House.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:06 pmJason – I see Tourette’s is really causing you some embarassment today…you poor thing! Did your Mom forget to send your meds?
March 7th, 2007 at 7:07 pmJane – One might think the Dems, empowered by the people, might rise up and right the wrongs of “Bushcoâ€. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Yet you were patient for 6 years of fcukups – and you want instant success from Dems? You’re a fcuking id*ot.
Don’t worry about being called “tax and spend†Democrats – John Edwards has already proudly promised to raise taxes….and we saw how far that stance took President Mondale! Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Is that what Edwards has promised? Care to link the citation? And please, none of those st*pid broken links, and ‘paraphrasing’, you’re famous for you boney Hag.
The fractious Dems are split between the moderate BlueDogs and the leftists Progressive Dems of America.Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Compared to the Waffling Neo-Nazi McCain camp, and the full blown Militia Coulter C*nts of the far right?
Dems are fractious? Is that why Nancy has shown more party discipline than Delay ever did?
You’re a st*pid ingorant c*nt!
P.S. You blame George Bush for the position Dems are in – blame Democrats. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
That’s like saying blame the government because they didn’t stop a parent abusing their children before it happened. You’re a fool.
They voted for granting war powers and when the campaign got ugly, changed their minds and hoped to take back those votes. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
They granted him the flexibility to show Iraq we were serious. He was a fool, and attacked unnecessarily. You want to blame the Dems for granting Bush the flexibility that a Responsible president would have used wisely?
Yeah, perhaps you’re right. Dems should never permit any Repuke to throw up on america again. You fcukheads can’t be trusted. You’re right about that!
In short – they don’t know HOW to lead. Spinal transplants may assist your anemic party. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Spinal transplants should be required for you cowardly fcukheads! One way you LEAD is to admit you’re wrong, and move forward. You insecure little c*nts lie when caught, and deny your own failures – that’s the most spineless act an adult can ever do.
You are a spineless c*nt!
March 7th, 2007 at 7:10 pmJason – I see Tourette’s is really causing you some embarassment today…you poor thing! Did your Mom forget to send your meds?
Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
If you had half a brain, you’d be embarrassed to show you ignorant sl*tty face around here. Did your mom forget to teach you how to use that empty headed brain of yours, and perhaps send you some meds so you’re not such a miserable ‘victim’ c*nt?
March 7th, 2007 at 7:11 pmDemocrats cannot expect people to continue supporting them if they don’t deliver.
They need to know that the honymoon with voters will be over soon.
And if Pelosi just deliver speeches only and no goods ; if resolutions with regard to war Iraq remains ‘non biding’, then Democrats are simply riding on the same saddle of Republicans when it comes to war,and voters will be soon taking notice.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:12 pmEvery responsible American Progressive, Democrat, Green, Anarchist, and Socialist should let their representatives know you expect a BINDING resolution to force the end to this war. THEN – let them know you want immediate tax hikes on the greedy rich to fund every known aspect of your entitlement vision…..after you decide what “rich” is….
Toooodles……
March 7th, 2007 at 7:20 pmWayne – Thank you for your spin on things! So refreshing!!
March 7th, 2007 at 7:21 pm“Actually, I am humbled by my dad. He had about 170 patents, I only have 12.” Comment by WaltTheMan
Such a disappointment!!!
March 7th, 2007 at 7:22 pmThanks, VVGFU (boy, does THAT look funny) for responding to MA. I don’t have time right now to pick apart its meaningless post.
But…Yes, MA, in part I do blame Democrats for not fighting against what Bushco and your blood-sucking Rethugs have done to our world for the past 6 years, but the Democrats were enablers. The Democrats were not the avaricious, inhuman, oil-thirsty, blood-thirsty oath-breaking slime who don’t care who dies, who don’t care what the public they are sworn to serve think of them, who don’t care if their policies ruin the planet that sustains us, I could go on and on, but you don’t care either, do you, MA?
MA, it’s too bad that the brief moment of empathy that you felt towards me regarding my parents’ deaths passed so quickly. You were human for a short while then.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:23 pmWayne – Thank you for your spin on things! So refreshing!!
Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
Anything is refreshing up against the rehashed toilet swill you shoot out of your mouth-*ss.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:26 pmBack to Lieberman, I can’t look at or listen to him anymore. He’s way too droopy and whiney.
Goodnight, I’m heading home.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:35 pmWayne – Thank you for your spin on things! So refreshing!!
Comment by valiant venus
Nice to know you still do not condemn the way the administration have treated our wounded servicemen and women.
As a veteran, with a sister as one the wounded, brother-in-law and son in Iraq, I condemn you for supporting and administration that has been screwing over our veterans.
March 7th, 2007 at 7:44 pm[...] evening, Think Progress notes Mitch McConnell’s convenient new-found ignorance on the powers of Congress to place limits on [...]
March 7th, 2007 at 7:50 pmI’m beginning to think that Karl Rove has a picture of Lieberman getting it on with a donkey or maybe Jeff Gannon.
March 7th, 2007 at 8:05 pmWhile we are all in an aggressive mood, let’s not forget the idiots that voted Lieberman and McConnell into the senate.
March 7th, 2007 at 8:16 pmWhen things like this come up, I believe it is completely necessary to throw these politicians’ words back at them. Email, write, FAX people like Lieberman and McConnell their own hypocrisy. Shame them into action, and while not the best reason behind doing so, it is better than continuing the way things are now.
March 7th, 2007 at 8:20 pm“MA, it’s too bad that the brief moment of empathy that you felt towards me regarding my parents’ deaths passed so quickly. You were human for a short while then.” Comment by JaneESchneider
Contrary to your supposition, I have always had great empathy for you in particular, and people in general who lose parents or children. Family ties that bind us so tenderly are often broken – we we are left behind suffer great loss.
Unfortunately, you mistake my difference of political opinion with a personal animosity. I like my liberal neighbours and colleagues and we get along just fine. We actually see each other as humans – humans who disagree. Maybe the sunshine has something to do with our optimistic dispositions!!
March 7th, 2007 at 8:26 pmJane – Would you agree that oil is a “national vital interest”? Regards to hubby!
March 7th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI heard this somewhere and it has has been causing me mental blockings since.
March 7th, 2007 at 9:07 pmSince the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war, then how could Congress just pass a law giving that right to the President? In reality, it would take a Constitutional Amendment to take this power AWAY from Congress and put it into the basket of the Executive. No “law” could do otherwise.
Why is this not evident on its face, and contestable?
Ok, it took me awhile but DON’T believe RR’s BS. Every single post comes down to “I wish the Democrats would do the right thing”. Despite the fact that he has been sucking Pubbie tit since he got here. He is a fraud. Concern troll is the term, I believe.
March 7th, 2007 at 10:22 pm#69 If by “vital national interest” you mean a good damn reason to kill a bunch of brown people…damn right!!
March 7th, 2007 at 10:33 pmSen. Joe Lieberman (I-Israel) should just move his traitor ass to Tel Aviv. His act is getting tiresome.
March 7th, 2007 at 10:56 pmNo, JPork – I mean the oil that lubricates our factories, heats our homes, fuels our various technologicall and transportation needs and moves our economy.
If we really wanted to kill a bunch of “brown people” as you so stupidly assert, there are several million alot closer over our Southern border…..come to think of it, a homicidal maniac with a penchant for “brown people” would have their pick of the litter here in the Southwest. After reading your continued ignorance, I console myself hoping you are not in a position to influence young children.
March 7th, 2007 at 11:34 pmNo, JPork – I mean the oil that lubricates our factories, heats our homes, fuels our various technologicall and transportation needs and moves our economy. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Coal fuels most of our homes – you ignorant sl*t.
If we really wanted to kill a bunch of “brown people†as you so stupidly assert, there are several million alot closer over our Southern border…..Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Then no one would wash those skanky drawers of yours once a month, like a good b*tch requires.
come to think of it, a homicidal maniac with a penchant for “brown people†would have their pick of the litter here in the Southwest. After reading your continued ignorance, I console myself hoping you are not in a position to influence young children. Comment by valiant venus — March 7, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Says the b*tch with the mind of a young child. When your *daddy* told you that you were a princess, he hoped you’d someday be the princess-bride, not the princess-b*tch. Just thought you’d want to know.
I suggest you watch a couple of episodes of the ‘real housewives of orange county’. They have the overly spoiled, st*pid young spoiled *republican* daughters that are a perfect double for you – mighty b*tch.
March 8th, 2007 at 12:07 am[...] at the Congressional War Powers report from the Center for American Progress that Think Progress posted today. It has some pretty frightening things to say about Mitch McConnell and his God [...]
March 8th, 2007 at 3:21 am#35 and #40, Please stop dodging me. Why even make a post if your not going to even attempt to answer my question. Making a post proclaiming you are dodging my answer looks foolish and childish. You want to sound like adults? Make a posts attempting to actually answer my question. Otherwise, sit in the corner with your mouth shut. If you can’t add anything, then why say anything?
You may not like that I am showing the World the Dems are disingenous on this issue. For anyone to argue that we need to have MORE discussions to end the Iraq war when they have a bill in their lap that could end the war this moment, they are truly and simply playing politics with this issue. I certainly understand it. The Repugs are masters at doing it and the Dems are proving the same. I was just hoping for change in Washington instead of more of the same.
March 8th, 2007 at 9:47 amOne thing that your congress can and will support- with just a little help from you (their constituents)- is The Global Poverty Act! The bill would make it less likely for terrorism and wars to even occur because the poverty which puts stress on governments all across the globe would be greatly reduced. Don’t you think it’s time we started fighting the problem from the root?
March 8th, 2007 at 12:22 pmLIE-berman and McCON-nel–HYPOCRISY BE THINE MIDDLE NAMES–
March 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmJoe HYPOCRITE LIE-berman and Mitch HYPOCRITE McCON-nel! THERE, NOW THAT SOUNDS MORE LIKE IT, EH Joe and Mitch? YOU TWO MISERABLE PIECES OF RANCID HYENA-SHIT, COWARDLY SEWER-RATS, VERMIN and PERNICIOUS BACTERIA!!!!!
[...] editorial then echoes the false Lieberman/McConnell line suggesting that Congress’ role in influencing the war is limited mostly to cutting funds. [...]
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