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		<title>By: Aaron G. Stock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron G. Stock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, that&#039;s great; I think peaceful solutions to world issues are woefully under-discussed.

I recommend, however, that you avoid posting the same comment on different blog entries. If you want to directly engage the topic being discussed in the comments sections (I phrase this because sometimes the comment threads are off-topic, or not discussing their blog entry&#039;s given topic), and then bring up Peace Action as it relates, great, but your cut-and-paste comments are tantamount to spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, that&#8217;s great; I think peaceful solutions to world issues are woefully under-discussed.</p>
<p>I recommend, however, that you avoid posting the same comment on different blog entries. If you want to directly engage the topic being discussed in the comments sections (I phrase this because sometimes the comment threads are off-topic, or not discussing their blog entry&#8217;s given topic), and then bring up Peace Action as it relates, great, but your cut-and-paste comments are tantamount to spam.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2125631', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NuWeb</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/a-cloud-over-the-vice-president/comment-page-2/#comment-2115646</link>
		<dc:creator>NuWeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81 you&#039;re right    ...but I&#039;ve never seen the state of democracy so endangered as it is now.   NeoCon rats devour our constitutional rights very quickly.  Under the Bush tenure democracy has been ripped and torn to shreds!!! 

#74 I can understand your frustration    ... but, be careful with what you ask!  you might get it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81 you&#8217;re right    &#8230;but I&#8217;ve never seen the state of democracy so endangered as it is now.   NeoCon rats devour our constitutional rights very quickly.  Under the Bush tenure democracy has been ripped and torn to shreds!!! </p>
<p>#74 I can understand your frustration    &#8230; but, be careful with what you ask!  you might get it!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2115646', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Funamoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Funamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIME(tm)FORGOT TO SHOW THE BLOT OF LIGHTNING STRIKING Torticola FRANKEN-Cheney&#039;s NECK-BOLTS!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Str8edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Str8edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read the book &#039;Fiasco&#039;, yet, but I have read &#039;Worse than Watergate&#039; by John Dean. Roger, all the proof you need is contained there in. All the evidence is covered and footnoted by Dean. That is, if you truly are looking for the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read the book &#8216;Fiasco&#8217;, yet, but I have read &#8216;Worse than Watergate&#8217; by John Dean. Roger, all the proof you need is contained there in. All the evidence is covered and footnoted by Dean. That is, if you truly are looking for the truth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2093294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rachel kinnardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel kinnardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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â€¦that every person has the right to live without the threat from nuclear weapons.

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About Peace Action</p>
<p>Peace Action, the merger of SANE and The Nuclear Freeze, has effectively mobilized for peace and disarmament for nearly fifty years.</p>
<p>As the nationâ€™s largest grassroots peace group we get results: from the 1963 treaty to ban above ground nuclear testing, to the 1996 signing of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, from ending the war in Vietnam, to blocking weapons sales to human rights abusing countries, and eliminating funding for new nuclear weapons, Peace Action and its 100,000 members have been, and continue to be, at the forefront of the international movement for peace.</p>
<p>At Peace Action we believeâ€¦</p>
<p>â€¦that war is not a suitable response to conflict.</p>
<p>For nearly 50 years Peace Action has worked for an environment where all are free from violence and war. We understand that long standing global conflicts require long-term solutions, and that US foreign policy has a lasting effect on the world. We are working to promote a new US foreign policy that is based on peaceful support for human rights and democracy, reducing the threat from weapons of mass destruction, and cooperation with the world community. We are against pre-emptive war, and call for a full withdrawal of American troops from Iraq.</p>
<p>â€¦that every person has the right to live without the threat from nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>There are still over 30,000 nuclear weapons in the world. The US and Russia still have thousands of nuclear weapons, on hair trigger alertâ€”ready to launch in minutes. While the Cold War may have ended, the nuclear threat has not. The only way to ensure that nuclear weapons will never be used &#8211; whether purposefully, or accidentally &#8211; is global abolition. The U.S. must lead the way to a safer world by taking our weapons off hair trigger alert, halting our research and development of new nuclear weapons and disarming and demilitarizing our warhead stockpile of over 10,000 nuclear warheads. We can reduce the threat to the world posed by nuclear weapons, but we must start by getting serious about getting rid of our own weapons of mass destruction.</p>
<p>â€¦that America has the resources to both protect and provide for its citizens.</p>
<p>As the Pentagonâ€™s budget soars to $400 billion, 17% of American children live in poverty. Basic infrastructure is crumbling, school are using outdated textbooks, and millions of Americans are without basic health insurance. </p>
<p>For what the US will spend on the War in Iraq, 26,701,621 children could have attended a year of Head Start, we could have built 1,815,194 additional housing units for the poor, we could have hired 3,493,706 additional public school teachers for one year, and we could have provided 9,772,998 students four-year scholarships at public universities(source â€“ National Priorities Project). We believe that these are priorities that should come before war.</p>
<p>What we do at Peace Actionâ€¦</p>
<p>We are the nationâ€™s largest grassroots Peace network, with over 28 state affiliates, and over 100 local chapters. We organize our grassroots network to place pressure on Congress and the Administration through write-in campaigns, internet actions, citizens lobbying and direct action. Through a close relationship with progressive members of Congress, we play a key role in devising strategies to move forward peace legislation, and, as a leading organizing member of United for Peace and Justice and the Win Without War coalition, we lend our expertise and large network to achieving common goals. </p>
<p>Through our Peace Voter awareness campaigns, we inform citizens about their choices for both local and national campaigns, by highlighting different candidatesâ€™ stances on issues relating to peace. Our annual Congressional Voter Guide gives credit to those in Congress who voted for a peaceful future, while holding accountable those who voted for larger Pentagon budgets, spending tax dollars on nuclear weapons, and voted for wars of aggression and occupation. </p>
<p>Given the right tools, ordinary people can change the world.</p>
<p>At Peace Action, we recognize that real change comes from the bottom up and we are committed to educating and organizing at the grassroots level.</p>
<p>When you join Peace Action you become part of an effective citizen movement. We work hard to keep you informed through our quarterly newsletter and publications about the most important news and issues in the peace movement. As a member you can join our Action Alert Network which allows citizens throughout the country to rapidly respond to important legislation online. As a member, you can become an important part of a fast growing national movement, and help us change the direction of our country and the world towards a more sustainable, peaceful future.</p>
<p>Together, we have the power to change the world.</p>
<p>Support Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 - you have to pay attention to the time line.

Congress voted to allow the use of force in October 2002 in case Saddam refused to allow the UN inspector into Iraq with full access, as defined by the UN inspectors.

The UN inspectors arrived in Iraq about December 2002. It was in February 2003 that Blix reported back to the UN that inspections had failed to uncover any WMD in Iraq or that Saddam had restarted a nuclear program. One month later, Bush kicked the UN inspectors out and we invaded.

A lot happened in the 5 months between when Congress passed the resolution on use of force should Saddam not comply with UN resolutions and when the invasion started. It was not concurrent action by a long shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 &#8211; you have to pay attention to the time line.</p>
<p>Congress voted to allow the use of force in October 2002 in case Saddam refused to allow the UN inspector into Iraq with full access, as defined by the UN inspectors.</p>
<p>The UN inspectors arrived in Iraq about December 2002. It was in February 2003 that Blix reported back to the UN that inspections had failed to uncover any WMD in Iraq or that Saddam had restarted a nuclear program. One month later, Bush kicked the UN inspectors out and we invaded.</p>
<p>A lot happened in the 5 months between when Congress passed the resolution on use of force should Saddam not comply with UN resolutions and when the invasion started. It was not concurrent action by a long shot.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2090095', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phylo Se Fiser</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/a-cloud-over-the-vice-president/comment-page-2/#comment-2089329</link>
		<dc:creator>Phylo Se Fiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that you still haven&#039;t responded to #50 roger roger.
Hmmmm, that&#039;s a little curious.

Phylo out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that you still haven&#8217;t responded to #50 roger roger.<br />
Hmmmm, that&#8217;s a little curious.</p>
<p>Phylo out<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2089329', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger_Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger_Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82 Refresh my memory on what those preconditions were again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82 Refresh my memory on what those preconditions were again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2088760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jo-Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo-Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick(and I mean dick)Cheney is the anchor that will drown this Republican regime. Vermont has the right idea. Impeach this puppet Bush and his handler Cheney now. Twenty- one more months of this treason is unacceptable. Chuck Hagel is stating the obvious: gutting human rights, nullifying the Constitution seems to be at least as serious as Clinton&#039;s impeachment for perjury for personal behavior. One bad call for impeachment by the same thugs guilty of REAL crimes and hubris of power should not stop a REAL case for impeachment. No doubt 70% ofthe public would agree. Bush-Cheney have to go together. Cheney knows where the bodies are buried. They should pay the price for their treachery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick(and I mean dick)Cheney is the anchor that will drown this Republican regime. Vermont has the right idea. Impeach this puppet Bush and his handler Cheney now. Twenty- one more months of this treason is unacceptable. Chuck Hagel is stating the obvious: gutting human rights, nullifying the Constitution seems to be at least as serious as Clinton&#8217;s impeachment for perjury for personal behavior. One bad call for impeachment by the same thugs guilty of REAL crimes and hubris of power should not stop a REAL case for impeachment. No doubt 70% ofthe public would agree. Bush-Cheney have to go together. Cheney knows where the bodies are buried. They should pay the price for their treachery.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2088660', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The American soldiers are kicking assâ€¦ 
Comment by ggibson&lt;/em&gt; 

American soldiers, just like any countryÂ´s soldiers are being used since day one for the benefit of the few powerful people in the country. Wars are made by the ruling class to hold more power and they have to convince their soldiers that there is an evil enemy waiting to attack that country, thats what HitlerÂ´s junta and propaganda did to convince german soldiers about jews, polish, russians, etc. Now, the only wars for justice are fought by the people: Viet-cong and russian people, for example. The vietcong werent soldiers in the usual sense, russian people were repairing tanks while the fight raged on in Stalingrad. So, soldiers are toys, sadly. Organized people are unstoppable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The American soldiers are kicking assâ€¦<br />
Comment by ggibson</em> </p>
<p>American soldiers, just like any countryÂ´s soldiers are being used since day one for the benefit of the few powerful people in the country. Wars are made by the ruling class to hold more power and they have to convince their soldiers that there is an evil enemy waiting to attack that country, thats what HitlerÂ´s junta and propaganda did to convince german soldiers about jews, polish, russians, etc. Now, the only wars for justice are fought by the people: Viet-cong and russian people, for example. The vietcong werent soldiers in the usual sense, russian people were repairing tanks while the fight raged on in Stalingrad. So, soldiers are toys, sadly. Organized people are unstoppable.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2088142', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CHENEY, BUSH et al...

...have committed TREASON and mass murder...

...what are the american people going to do about it?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CHENEY, BUSH et al&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;have committed TREASON and mass murder&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;what are the american people going to do about it?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2088022', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Faire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have time to read the posts, so this might have been said already:

&lt;strong&gt;Not only did Cheney orchestrate the outing of a covert CIA operative, but he outed the whole WMD unit operating under the brass-plate cover company Brewster Jennings.  How many of our operatives were tortured and/or killed because of Cheney?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have time to read the posts, so this might have been said already:</p>
<p><strong>Not only did Cheney orchestrate the outing of a covert CIA operative, but he outed the whole WMD unit operating under the brass-plate cover company Brewster Jennings.  How many of our operatives were tortured and/or killed because of Cheney?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2088017', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Plus even Obama would vote yes, because as a black man he could not vote against a black woman.&lt;/em&gt;

Comment by Jay Randal #20

&lt;strong&gt;Whoa Jay!

...first of all...

...Condti&#039;s not Black...

...second...

...please provide a link to remarks proving that Senator Obama supports Rice as VP...

...otherwise, Progressive Liberals shouldn&#039;t jump the gun...

...the right wing Bushite racists are already attempting to bring Obama down...

...are you helping THEM?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Plus even Obama would vote yes, because as a black man he could not vote against a black woman.</em></p>
<p>Comment by Jay Randal #20</p>
<p><strong>Whoa Jay!</p>
<p>&#8230;first of all&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Condti&#8217;s not Black&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;second&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;please provide a link to remarks proving that Senator Obama supports Rice as VP&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;otherwise, Progressive Liberals shouldn&#8217;t jump the gun&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the right wing Bushite racists are already attempting to bring Obama down&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;are you helping THEM?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2088008', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phylo Se Fiser</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/a-cloud-over-the-vice-president/comment-page-2/#comment-2087997</link>
		<dc:creator>Phylo Se Fiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right, roger roger, the members of congress who voted for this war did not do their due diligence and they should be held responsible for this mess too. Apparently only five of six members of congress got past the executive summary. Though I think you have to admit that they were probably inclined to take the White House (and Collin Powell) at their word. Hey, they f&#039;d up. They trusted Bush and Cheney. Shame on them for not knowing better.

Phylo out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, roger roger, the members of congress who voted for this war did not do their due diligence and they should be held responsible for this mess too. Apparently only five of six members of congress got past the executive summary. Though I think you have to admit that they were probably inclined to take the White House (and Collin Powell) at their word. Hey, they f&#8217;d up. They trusted Bush and Cheney. Shame on them for not knowing better.</p>
<p>Phylo out.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2087997', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phylo Se Fiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phylo Se Fiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger Roger: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Furthermore, Cheney said there was â€œNo Doubtâ€ Iraq had WMDâ€™s because that is what he believed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Phylo: Does it not bother you that he had no evidence to back it up? Are you telling me that it&#039;s okay to go to war if the VP concocts fictional stories in his mind about WMD? Where is your evidence that Cheney had any any evidence on which to base this &quot;no doubt&quot; assesment?

And why don&#039;t you respond to my specific charges in comment #50?

And why do you think that the White House never bothered to ask for an NIE?

Phylo out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Roger: </p>
<blockquote><p>Furthermore, Cheney said there was â€œNo Doubtâ€ Iraq had WMDâ€™s because that is what he believed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Phylo: Does it not bother you that he had no evidence to back it up? Are you telling me that it&#8217;s okay to go to war if the VP concocts fictional stories in his mind about WMD? Where is your evidence that Cheney had any any evidence on which to base this &#8220;no doubt&#8221; assesment?</p>
<p>And why don&#8217;t you respond to my specific charges in comment #50?</p>
<p>And why do you think that the White House never bothered to ask for an NIE?</p>
<p>Phylo out.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2087979', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ggibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ggibson, you are kicking ass.

Comment by Juan C&lt;/em&gt;

The American soldiers are kicking ass... I am just doing my duty as a citizen  that depends on their ass kicking to look out for THEIR asses back here at home. The soldiers fight in the field... and our duty is to make sure they are never abused by our elected leaders and to make our elected leaders pay when they do abuse the willingness to sacrifice that the soldiers have demonstrated for over 200 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ggibson, you are kicking ass.</p>
<p>Comment by Juan C</em></p>
<p>The American soldiers are kicking ass&#8230; I am just doing my duty as a citizen  that depends on their ass kicking to look out for THEIR asses back here at home. The soldiers fight in the field&#8230; and our duty is to make sure they are never abused by our elected leaders and to make our elected leaders pay when they do abuse the willingness to sacrifice that the soldiers have demonstrated for over 200 years.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2087978', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ggibson, you are kicking ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ggibson, you are kicking ass.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2087757', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron G. Stock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron G. Stock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw shoot. Misformatted my comment at #76, which should read:

do a Google search on this:

&quot;roger_roger wmd site:thinkprogress.org&quot;

Really, it&#039;s all the link you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw shoot. Misformatted my comment at #76, which should read:</p>
<p>do a Google search on this:</p>
<p>&#8220;roger_roger wmd site:thinkprogress.org&#8221;</p>
<p>Really, it&#8217;s all the link you need.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2086729', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Gibson Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Gibson Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Furthermore, Cheney said there was â€œNo Doubtâ€ Iraq had WMDâ€™s because that is what he believed. I truly hope each and every person who voted to allow us to go to war believed that very same thing. Are you telling me that some in congress believed the intel was wrong and still voted yes? Talk about a crime. I actually hope all our leaders believed there was â€œNo Doubtâ€ when it came to WMDâ€™s. If they didnâ€™t believe that, they should not have voted for war.

Comment by Roger_Roger&lt;/em&gt;

The white house came to Congress asking for an authorization to go to war with the entire middle east according to Dick Lugar (R-Senate).

They not only refused they put preconditions on the use of force against Iraq. Those preconditions did not occur and the White House attacked anyway.... real simple isnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Furthermore, Cheney said there was â€œNo Doubtâ€ Iraq had WMDâ€™s because that is what he believed. I truly hope each and every person who voted to allow us to go to war believed that very same thing. Are you telling me that some in congress believed the intel was wrong and still voted yes? Talk about a crime. I actually hope all our leaders believed there was â€œNo Doubtâ€ when it came to WMDâ€™s. If they didnâ€™t believe that, they should not have voted for war.</p>
<p>Comment by Roger_Roger</em></p>
<p>The white house came to Congress asking for an authorization to go to war with the entire middle east according to Dick Lugar (R-Senate).</p>
<p>They not only refused they put preconditions on the use of force against Iraq. Those preconditions did not occur and the White House attacked anyway&#8230;. real simple isnt it?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2086679', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Gibson Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Gibson Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by Death2CheneyBush&lt;/em&gt;

Assassinations and military coups are the greatest dangers to a democracy.</description>
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