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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/clinton-military-readiness/comment-page-4/#comment-2130048</link>
		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#151 - &quot;Who is this â€˜GrewFromUranusâ€™ dildo ?&quot;  Comment by James R. 

Jason (his real name) is an unfortunate vulgarian who is stricken with digital Tourette&#039;s syndrome.  He has the inability to &quot;argue&quot; unless he is particularly crude.  TP generously allows him an outlet for his angst....and most people wisely ignore him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#151 &#8211; &#8220;Who is this â€˜GrewFromUranusâ€™ dildo ?&#8221;  Comment by James R. </p>
<p>Jason (his real name) is an unfortunate vulgarian who is stricken with digital Tourette&#8217;s syndrome.  He has the inability to &#8220;argue&#8221; unless he is particularly crude.  TP generously allows him an outlet for his angst&#8230;.and most people wisely ignore him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2130048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAYBE it&#039;s because during the CLINTON years, the number of military personnel and equipment dropped to the lowest per capita level in our nations history!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAYBE it&#8217;s because during the CLINTON years, the number of military personnel and equipment dropped to the lowest per capita level in our nations history!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2127789', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ggibson</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/clinton-military-readiness/comment-page-4/#comment-2127342</link>
		<dc:creator>ggibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by Evil Spaniard&lt;/em&gt;

Yes a friend of mine is married to a Japanese woman. They worship their ancestors (Shintoism)...sort of... but the center of Zen study in the world is in Japan. Zen comes from Buddhism.</description>
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<p>Yes a friend of mine is married to a Japanese woman. They worship their ancestors (Shintoism)&#8230;sort of&#8230; but the center of Zen study in the world is in Japan. Zen comes from Buddhism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2127342', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jlm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary should know about revisionist history.  and yes, I am a progressive, female Democrat.

Hillary has always been driven (why else stay in a marriage of convenience with the old hound dog?) and ruthless - she has turned into Rove in an ugly pantsuit - her campaign for Senate in NY was vicious, nasty, and out -swiftboated the swiftys.  She has turned into a premier vote whore - she&#039;ll say anything except &quot;I was wrong&quot;

I hope the first female president is someone I will be proud to vote for  for more than her chromosomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary should know about revisionist history.  and yes, I am a progressive, female Democrat.</p>
<p>Hillary has always been driven (why else stay in a marriage of convenience with the old hound dog?) and ruthless &#8211; she has turned into Rove in an ugly pantsuit &#8211; her campaign for Senate in NY was vicious, nasty, and out -swiftboated the swiftys.  She has turned into a premier vote whore &#8211; she&#8217;ll say anything except &#8220;I was wrong&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope the first female president is someone I will be proud to vote for  for more than her chromosomes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2126673', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/clinton-military-readiness/comment-page-4/#comment-2122719</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#105 Comment by Juan C

Unlike Christianity, Buddhism and Zen have humility as a central aspect of what they are about. This is probably why the Japanese so easily made the transition. Though not all of them. They still have racist conservatives in that country as wellâ€¦ Humans are animals after all.. we still have some evolving to do.

Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr â€” March 8, 2007 @ 7:27 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, the most predominant religion in Japan is shintoism, an animist one. The components of State Shintoism (the ones that organized religion around a self-proclaimed godly Emperor) have been stripped out from religion, thus giving it a more familiar character, more like the shintoism previous to the XIX century...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#105 Comment by Juan C</p>
<p>Unlike Christianity, Buddhism and Zen have humility as a central aspect of what they are about. This is probably why the Japanese so easily made the transition. Though not all of them. They still have racist conservatives in that country as wellâ€¦ Humans are animals after all.. we still have some evolving to do.</p>
<p>Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr â€” March 8, 2007 @ 7:27 pm</em></p>
<p>Actually, the most predominant religion in Japan is shintoism, an animist one. The components of State Shintoism (the ones that organized religion around a self-proclaimed godly Emperor) have been stripped out from religion, thus giving it a more familiar character, more like the shintoism previous to the XIX century&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2122719', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: marc page</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dildo grew from your anus ? is this a Matt Sanchez joke ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dildo grew from your anus ? is this a Matt Sanchez joke ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2118987', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: James R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this &#039;GrewFromUranus&#039; dildo ?</description>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So valiant venus, a *oranimal like yourself must just salivate over seeing how many people have &#039;died&#039; from terrorism since Bush&#039;s fiasco.

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/mj-attackgraph.jpg

You sicko terrorist types are just murdering nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So valiant venus, a *oranimal like yourself must just salivate over seeing how many people have &#8216;died&#8217; from terrorism since Bush&#8217;s fiasco.</p>
<p><a href="http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/mj-attackgraph.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/mj-attackgraph.jpg</a></p>
<p>You sicko terrorist types are just murdering nuts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2114550', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
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		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;....where you are a dashing Naval officer, married a bluff Marine Colonelâ€¦.&quot;   Comment by TerrytheTurtle

You sound a little jealous, Turtle.  Probably the closest you ever got to a tank or a cockpit is your shell.  (No, I wasn&#039;t dashing....but the buff Prince Valiant is.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.where you are a dashing Naval officer, married a bluff Marine Colonelâ€¦.&#8221;   Comment by TerrytheTurtle</p>
<p>You sound a little jealous, Turtle.  Probably the closest you ever got to a tank or a cockpit is your shell.  (No, I wasn&#8217;t dashing&#8230;.but the buff Prince Valiant is.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2113665', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;When you grow up and come to the sad realization that there are some people in this world who hate you and want you dead, you might see some benefit of defense and weapons contractors.Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm&lt;/em&gt;

How do you propose we handle animals like *you* that are inside our country and want us dead?

&lt;em&gt;Then again, you might look really great in tie-dye and good at putting daisies in rifles. (That is one thing about the anti-war crowd that amuses meâ€¦.all the old, paunchy hippies trying to re-capture their wasted youth.) Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, because the world just goes around murdering the Amish.  While we&#039;re on wasting youth, why have you wasted yours sounding like a constipated old st*pid fcuk?

&lt;em&gt;Hillary loathed the military when her husband was in office - and service members knew it.  Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm&lt;/em&gt;

What they *knew* and what is *reality* are two different things, when someone is a st*pid c*nt like yourself.

&lt;em&gt;She is trying desperately to grow a set so as to come across as a Democrat Margaret Thatcher or Gold Meir. Psssstâ€¦.Hillary, most of us know you have more stomach for the fight than Bill, but thatâ€™s not what your Party wants. Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Most of us know that you have a big pile of cow sh*t in your stomach, you grazing bovine.  fcuk off, and join the army in Iraq or Israel, or STFU you st*pid c*w.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>When you grow up and come to the sad realization that there are some people in this world who hate you and want you dead, you might see some benefit of defense and weapons contractors.Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm</em></p>
<p>How do you propose we handle animals like *you* that are inside our country and want us dead?</p>
<p><em>Then again, you might look really great in tie-dye and good at putting daisies in rifles. (That is one thing about the anti-war crowd that amuses meâ€¦.all the old, paunchy hippies trying to re-capture their wasted youth.) Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm</em></p>
<p>Yeah, because the world just goes around murdering the Amish.  While we&#8217;re on wasting youth, why have you wasted yours sounding like a constipated old st*pid fcuk?</p>
<p><em>Hillary loathed the military when her husband was in office &#8211; and service members knew it.  Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm</em></p>
<p>What they *knew* and what is *reality* are two different things, when someone is a st*pid c*nt like yourself.</p>
<p><em>She is trying desperately to grow a set so as to come across as a Democrat Margaret Thatcher or Gold Meir. Psssstâ€¦.Hillary, most of us know you have more stomach for the fight than Bill, but thatâ€™s not what your Party wants. Comment by valiant venus â€” March 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm</em></p>
<p>Most of us know that you have a big pile of cow sh*t in your stomach, you grazing bovine.  fcuk off, and join the army in Iraq or Israel, or STFU you st*pid c*w.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2113573', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#145 Too bad she didn&#039;t hit BINGO 4 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#145 Too bad she didn&#8217;t hit BINGO 4 years ago.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2113550', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One  of   the consequences  of   a  Hillary yes vote, for  the Millitary  Commisions  act  of  2006
This  is   just a short   list.
A  full  synopsys    would be  way   too  long.
Obama   voted  NO,   BTW.

- Allows military commissions to try any offense committed by an â€œunlawful enemy combatant,â€ which is defined as a non-US citizen who â€œpurposefully and materially supported hostilities against the U.S. or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces)â€ and is not affiliated with any legal army, militia, or government organization (Sec 948a, 948d)

- Includes the following crimes committed by unlawful enemy combatants as â€œtriableâ€ by the military commissions: terrorism, attacking civilians or protected property, rape, intentionally mistreating a dead body, sexual assault or abuse, taking hostages, torture, murder in violation of the law of war, spying, and wrongfully aiding the enemy (Sec 950v(b))

- Prohibits an enemy combatent from invoking the Geneva Convention (including the writ of habeas corpus) as a source of their rights (Sec 5(a))

- States that no court has jurisdiction to consider an application of habeas corpus from any alien detainee (Sec 950j(b)), (Sec 7)

- Prohibits the use of statements obtained through torture in trial, except when the statement was received prior to the enactment of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 and a judge deems it admissible, or the confession was received using methods not defined as torture under the Detainee Treatment Act (Sec 948r)

- States that the President has the right to interpret and apply the Geneva Convention (Sec 6(a)(3))

- Allows classified information to be used as evidence and prohibits the disclosure of classified information in the trials if it would be detrimental to national security (Sec 949(d)(f)(1))

- Allows evidence seized without a search warrant or other authorization to be used during the trial (Sec 949(a)(b)(2)(b))

- Allows hearsay evidence as long as the adverse party is informed of it with sufficient time to produce evidence (Sec 949(a)(b)(2)(E))

  http://votesmart.org/  (  a  nice resource  )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One  of   the consequences  of   a  Hillary yes vote, for  the Millitary  Commisions  act  of  2006<br />
This  is   just a short   list.<br />
A  full  synopsys    would be  way   too  long.<br />
Obama   voted  NO,   BTW.</p>
<p>- Allows military commissions to try any offense committed by an â€œunlawful enemy combatant,â€ which is defined as a non-US citizen who â€œpurposefully and materially supported hostilities against the U.S. or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces)â€ and is not affiliated with any legal army, militia, or government organization (Sec 948a, 948d)</p>
<p>- Includes the following crimes committed by unlawful enemy combatants as â€œtriableâ€ by the military commissions: terrorism, attacking civilians or protected property, rape, intentionally mistreating a dead body, sexual assault or abuse, taking hostages, torture, murder in violation of the law of war, spying, and wrongfully aiding the enemy (Sec 950v(b))</p>
<p>- Prohibits an enemy combatent from invoking the Geneva Convention (including the writ of habeas corpus) as a source of their rights (Sec 5(a))</p>
<p>- States that no court has jurisdiction to consider an application of habeas corpus from any alien detainee (Sec 950j(b)), (Sec 7)</p>
<p>- Prohibits the use of statements obtained through torture in trial, except when the statement was received prior to the enactment of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 and a judge deems it admissible, or the confession was received using methods not defined as torture under the Detainee Treatment Act (Sec 948r)</p>
<p>- States that the President has the right to interpret and apply the Geneva Convention (Sec 6(a)(3))</p>
<p>- Allows classified information to be used as evidence and prohibits the disclosure of classified information in the trials if it would be detrimental to national security (Sec 949(d)(f)(1))</p>
<p>- Allows evidence seized without a search warrant or other authorization to be used during the trial (Sec 949(a)(b)(2)(b))</p>
<p>- Allows hearsay evidence as long as the adverse party is informed of it with sufficient time to produce evidence (Sec 949(a)(b)(2)(E))</p>
<p>  <a href="http://votesmart.org/" rel="nofollow">http://votesmart.org/</a>  (  a  nice resource  )<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2109344', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Funamoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Funamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Clinton HAS WON THE CHURCH BINGO JAMBOREE!!!! BINGO BINGO BINGO!!!!! SHE WINS THE FLOAT!!!!! CHIMPya/Cheney GET THE GOAT(to eat also--&quot;My Pet Goat&quot;, that is!)!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
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		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Precisely what I said above. Judge a candidate/person on their record (actions) and not what they say theyâ€™ll do or what others say theyâ€™ll do. &lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s not what you said.  You stated an opinion and didn&#039;t offer any substantiation.  It&#039;s that kind of third grade ad hominem commentary that makes your side look irrational and emotional - even when, on occasion, we happen to agree with you.

&lt;em&gt;You then had a seizure and said something totally out of left field about going to court or something.&lt;/em&gt;

You have seizures (e.g. this post), I debate and debunk.  I don&#039;t have to have tantrums, because, unlike you, I possess a triple digit IQ and critical thinking skills...

I was criticizing your approach, but as usual, you read something more into it - which is rather desperate considering I said one sentence about your debating skills and nothing about Hillary...

&lt;em&gt;Ms. Clintonâ€™s voting record does not appeal to me. I can cite multiple cases not the least of which are her votes on the patriot act and the Iraq atrocity. &lt;/em&gt;

I don&#039;t think Clinton is the best person for the job.  I have no idea why you are trying to sell me on that concept.  I&#039;ve never stated otherwise.  I&#039;m a Gore fan.  Then, if he doesn&#039;t run, Obama.  

&lt;em&gt;Please cite, with specific references, where you disagree on her voting record and Iâ€™ll gladly debate that with you. However, it seems to me that you irrationally jumped all over me and are supporting Ms. Clinton just because she is a woman, a democrat, and has the last name of Clinton. &lt;/em&gt;

You seriously have me confused with someone else...  I commented about your lack of the ability to make a valid argument.  That was it.

&lt;em&gt;I would love to be proven wrong, of course, because otherwise your post at #93 is just hypocritical hyperbole.
Comment by Tuber â€” March 8, 2007 @ 7:13 pm&lt;/em&gt;

No, my post is valid.  Your debating skills are atrocious.  It has nothing to do with Clinton&#039;s viablity.  In this case, it is all about &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;...  And why you embarrass thinking Americans that you live here.

Take a deep breath...  And unclench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Precisely what I said above. Judge a candidate/person on their record (actions) and not what they say theyâ€™ll do or what others say theyâ€™ll do. </em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what you said.  You stated an opinion and didn&#8217;t offer any substantiation.  It&#8217;s that kind of third grade ad hominem commentary that makes your side look irrational and emotional &#8211; even when, on occasion, we happen to agree with you.</p>
<p><em>You then had a seizure and said something totally out of left field about going to court or something.</em></p>
<p>You have seizures (e.g. this post), I debate and debunk.  I don&#8217;t have to have tantrums, because, unlike you, I possess a triple digit IQ and critical thinking skills&#8230;</p>
<p>I was criticizing your approach, but as usual, you read something more into it &#8211; which is rather desperate considering I said one sentence about your debating skills and nothing about Hillary&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Ms. Clintonâ€™s voting record does not appeal to me. I can cite multiple cases not the least of which are her votes on the patriot act and the Iraq atrocity. </em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Clinton is the best person for the job.  I have no idea why you are trying to sell me on that concept.  I&#8217;ve never stated otherwise.  I&#8217;m a Gore fan.  Then, if he doesn&#8217;t run, Obama.  </p>
<p><em>Please cite, with specific references, where you disagree on her voting record and Iâ€™ll gladly debate that with you. However, it seems to me that you irrationally jumped all over me and are supporting Ms. Clinton just because she is a woman, a democrat, and has the last name of Clinton. </em></p>
<p>You seriously have me confused with someone else&#8230;  I commented about your lack of the ability to make a valid argument.  That was it.</p>
<p><em>I would love to be proven wrong, of course, because otherwise your post at #93 is just hypocritical hyperbole.<br />
Comment by Tuber â€” March 8, 2007 @ 7:13 pm</em></p>
<p>No, my post is valid.  Your debating skills are atrocious.  It has nothing to do with Clinton&#8217;s viablity.  In this case, it is all about <em>you</em>&#8230;  And why you embarrass thinking Americans that you live here.</p>
<p>Take a deep breath&#8230;  And unclench.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2107649', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/clinton-military-readiness/comment-page-3/#comment-2107643</link>
		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Carlyle Group...

...architects of...

...The New World Order...

...you can let them convince you that you&#039;re a conspiracy theorist if you want to...

...before you know it...

...we&#039;ll all be on plantations...&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Carlyle Group&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;architects of&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;The New World Order&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;you can let them convince you that you&#8217;re a conspiracy theorist if you want to&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;before you know it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;we&#8217;ll all be on plantations&#8230;</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2107643', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/clinton-military-readiness/comment-page-3/#comment-2107262</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to side with Wayne on this one...I watch voting record&#039;s and keep track...Yes while in office Bill and Hillery were the best...Have not liked Hillery&#039;s voting record of late and don&#039;t care much for the chummy bush/ clinton  stuff I have been seeing...Looking at several of the candidates and one look&#039;s outstanding to me will probably not get the nod that&#039;s Kucenich(sp) other&#039;s I still have to see more and check out their record&#039;s....Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to side with Wayne on this one&#8230;I watch voting record&#8217;s and keep track&#8230;Yes while in office Bill and Hillery were the best&#8230;Have not liked Hillery&#8217;s voting record of late and don&#8217;t care much for the chummy bush/ clinton  stuff I have been seeing&#8230;Looking at several of the candidates and one look&#8217;s outstanding to me will probably not get the nod that&#8217;s Kucenich(sp) other&#8217;s I still have to see more and check out their record&#8217;s&#8230;.Blessings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2107262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize --- Bluedog49 

NP  

It&#039;s  all good, man
 Actually  It  was   nice to debate   someone   with brains for a change  ;)

The trolls  are sorely lacking double  digit IQs these  days. heh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize &#8212; Bluedog49 </p>
<p>NP  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s  all good, man<br />
 Actually  It  was   nice to debate   someone   with brains for a change  ;)</p>
<p>The trolls  are sorely lacking double  digit IQs these  days. heh<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2106559', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TerrytheTurtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerrytheTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least Hillary is honest about her military service - beats making up a fantasy life where you are a dashing Naval officer, married a bluff Marine Colonel....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least Hillary is honest about her military service &#8211; beats making up a fantasy life where you are a dashing Naval officer, married a bluff Marine Colonel&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2105262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluedog49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Wayne: You are definitely not an idiot. I&#039;m sorry if I called you an idiot. I value a debate on Hillary&#039;s voting record. As a matter of fact, at this time, John Edwards is my favorite candidate because he is talking about working people and how they&#039;re getting screwed. I also like Bill Richardson. But, honestly, I tend to be a very pragmatic guy and I want someone who can win the office, whoever that is. On Hillary&#039;s electability, I start with the assumption that when righties say &quot;we want Hillary,&quot; they are just sandbagging. I don&#039;t believe a word conservatives say these days. I think that they are actually very afraid of Hillary Clinton. Any Dem will be slimed -- after all, that&#039;s all they&#039;ve got. They simply cannot win on the issues. I believe that Hillary has been innoculated by the years of sliming. I don&#039;t think they can come up with anything new on her and all the old stuff is very tired. How many times can an imbecile like MA say &quot;Hillary hates the troops&quot; before people&#039;s eyes glaze over. The reason I believe the right is afraid of Clinton is that people will naturally be reminded of Bill Clinton&#039;s presidency and how astoundingly competent he was compared to this a-hole. People have had enough of this incompetent, mediocre frat-boy and his posing ways. Hillary Clinton exudes competence. She&#039;s smart. She&#039;s tough. Edwards is also smart and tough. In fact, every single Dem on the run these days is smart and tough compared to this silly product of aristocracy. I apologize to all my fellow lefties here at this site for my anger over Hillary-bashing. I apologize to the hard lefties here who think Hillary is the devil. I know about the Carlyle Group and I agree that it is troubling. I just want the Dems to take about 10 more seats in the Senate and take over the Whitehouse, that&#039;s all. However they do it is fine with me. Today, the Democratic party is our only legitimate chance to press forward a marginally progressive agenda. Kucinich is not going to be elected. Nader is not going to be elected. If we don&#039;t want another Repub in the whitehouse, it&#039;s going to have to be one of these Democrats. Maybe Al Gore will decide to run. I&#039;d happily support him if he did, just like I did in 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Wayne: You are definitely not an idiot. I&#8217;m sorry if I called you an idiot. I value a debate on Hillary&#8217;s voting record. As a matter of fact, at this time, John Edwards is my favorite candidate because he is talking about working people and how they&#8217;re getting screwed. I also like Bill Richardson. But, honestly, I tend to be a very pragmatic guy and I want someone who can win the office, whoever that is. On Hillary&#8217;s electability, I start with the assumption that when righties say &#8220;we want Hillary,&#8221; they are just sandbagging. I don&#8217;t believe a word conservatives say these days. I think that they are actually very afraid of Hillary Clinton. Any Dem will be slimed &#8212; after all, that&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got. They simply cannot win on the issues. I believe that Hillary has been innoculated by the years of sliming. I don&#8217;t think they can come up with anything new on her and all the old stuff is very tired. How many times can an imbecile like MA say &#8220;Hillary hates the troops&#8221; before people&#8217;s eyes glaze over. The reason I believe the right is afraid of Clinton is that people will naturally be reminded of Bill Clinton&#8217;s presidency and how astoundingly competent he was compared to this a-hole. People have had enough of this incompetent, mediocre frat-boy and his posing ways. Hillary Clinton exudes competence. She&#8217;s smart. She&#8217;s tough. Edwards is also smart and tough. In fact, every single Dem on the run these days is smart and tough compared to this silly product of aristocracy. I apologize to all my fellow lefties here at this site for my anger over Hillary-bashing. I apologize to the hard lefties here who think Hillary is the devil. I know about the Carlyle Group and I agree that it is troubling. I just want the Dems to take about 10 more seats in the Senate and take over the Whitehouse, that&#8217;s all. However they do it is fine with me. Today, the Democratic party is our only legitimate chance to press forward a marginally progressive agenda. Kucinich is not going to be elected. Nader is not going to be elected. If we don&#8217;t want another Repub in the whitehouse, it&#8217;s going to have to be one of these Democrats. Maybe Al Gore will decide to run. I&#8217;d happily support him if he did, just like I did in 2000.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2104442', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Gibson Jr</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/clinton-military-readiness/comment-page-3/#comment-2103570</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Gibson Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>defense and weapons contractors dont need to sell weapons to foreign companies... let people build their own death machines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>defense and weapons contractors dont need to sell weapons to foreign companies&#8230; let people build their own death machines.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2103570', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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