Comments on: Army Secretary Who Resigned Over Walter Reed Given Lavish Farewell Ceremony http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:50:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Mike http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-2/#comment-2329811 Mike Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:02:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2329811 The thing about this is, I'll bet that nearly every one of you guys that is indignant about the conditions at Walter Reed are the EXACT SAME PEOPLE that WANT to hand ALL HEALTHCARE to GOVERNMENT. I am willing to bet that none of you know how to learn a lesson... and that you for some unfathomable reason think it is a good idea for government to provide our health care for us... under whatever name you wish to use: "socilaized medicine" or "single payer" or whatever else. The blatant stupidity of people to read these stories of government incopetence over and over and over again, and STILL want to put government in charg of important things... just blows my mind. PEOPLE WAKE UP. GOVERNMENT IS INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT. This has been known for centuries, literally. The founding fathers knew this explicitly. People, this is NOT unusual. This is NOT unexpected. Wake up. Do NOT give your health care over to government where you will have NO CHOICE over conditions, where you will have to endure every hospital in America turning into Walter Reed or WORSE. Ever been to the DMV? Imagine a visit to your doctors looking like that. Prove you are worth your large human brians. Learn from today's events. Understand that government healthcare is about the most stupid choice you could ever make in your life, or the lives of your children, or grandchildren, for once private healthcare is lost, is is GONE FOREVER. IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE TO GET IT BACK. The thing about this is, I’ll bet that nearly every one of you guys that is indignant about the conditions at Walter Reed are the EXACT SAME PEOPLE that WANT to hand ALL HEALTHCARE to GOVERNMENT. I am willing to bet that none of you know how to learn a lesson… and that you for some unfathomable reason think it is a good idea for government to provide our health care for us… under whatever name you wish to use: “socilaized medicine” or “single payer” or whatever else.

The blatant stupidity of people to read these stories of government incopetence over and over and over again, and STILL want to put government in charg of important things… just blows my mind. PEOPLE WAKE UP. GOVERNMENT IS INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT. This has been known for centuries, literally. The founding fathers knew this explicitly.

People, this is NOT unusual. This is NOT unexpected. Wake up. Do NOT give your health care over to government where you will have NO CHOICE over conditions, where you will have to endure every hospital in America turning into Walter Reed or WORSE.

Ever been to the DMV? Imagine a visit to your doctors looking like that. Prove you are worth your large human brians. Learn from today’s events. Understand that government healthcare is about the most stupid choice you could ever make in your life, or the lives of your children, or grandchildren, for once private healthcare is lost, is is GONE FOREVER. IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE TO GET IT BACK.

]]> By: Latrobean http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-2/#comment-2172009 Latrobean Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:34:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2172009 It is embarrasing to say that this man was a graduate of my local High School. Not all of the graduates are like that. It is embarrasing to say that this man was a graduate of my local High School. Not all of the graduates are like that.

]]> By: doug@usa.com http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-2/#comment-2171425 doug@usa.com Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:32:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2171425 No suprise here. We had a First Sergeant get caught threatening defense witnesses in a court martial case. So rather than charge him with committing a crime that violated the US Constitution he was sworn to uphold, they gave him a retirement ceremony. Fuck the troops. Kill 'em all and let God sort out the ones worth keeping. No suprise here. We had a First Sergeant get caught threatening defense witnesses in a court martial case. So rather than charge him with committing a crime that violated the US Constitution he was sworn to uphold, they gave him a retirement ceremony.

Fuck the troops. Kill ‘em all and let God sort out the ones worth keeping.

]]> By: Colonel Ray http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2164615 Colonel Ray Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:46:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2164615 Great comments here. As a retired Colonel with multiple combat tours including Iraq and with two sons in the service, I get to talk from the been there done that side. This administration has cut care for our wounded soldiers, denied care for our Veterans, allowed almost every military base to deteroriate so the family members live on bases that should be condemed, moved almost every Army Unit to a new location so the families are forced to move multiple times, sent troops to combat without the proper gear and the list goes on and on. Funny you do not hear this from the Navy, Marine Corps or Air Force. We all said six years ago that Rumsfeld would be bad for the Army, in fact that he hated the Army. He proved us right. The Army and especially this administration DOES NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS. I am ashamed of the leaders of the Army and their elected leader, our President. My sons will soon leave the service for good. I will never let another family member serve in the Army. I am sorry I did. For all of you who believe that this administration is full of caring and good people, wake up. Colonel Great comments here. As a retired Colonel with multiple combat tours including Iraq and with two sons in the service, I get to talk from the been there done that side. This administration has cut care for our wounded soldiers, denied care for our Veterans, allowed almost every military base to deteroriate so the family members live on bases that should be condemed, moved almost every Army Unit to a new location so the families are forced to move multiple times, sent troops to combat without the proper gear and the list goes on and on. Funny you do not hear this from the Navy, Marine Corps or Air Force. We all said six years ago that Rumsfeld would be bad for the Army, in fact that he hated the Army. He proved us right. The Army and especially this administration DOES NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS.

I am ashamed of the leaders of the Army and their elected leader, our President. My sons will soon leave the service for good. I will never let another family member serve in the Army. I am sorry I did.

For all of you who believe that this administration is full of caring and good people, wake up.

Colonel

]]> By: links for 2007-03-11 « Voxefx http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2153712 links for 2007-03-11 « Voxefx Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:34:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2153712 [...] Lavish Going Away For Army Sec. Disgraced In Walter Reed Scandal [...] [...] Lavish Going Away For Army Sec. Disgraced In Walter Reed Scandal [...]

]]> By: Fucked Up Country.com - talk about the fucked up state of the United States - politics, outsourcing, illegal immigration, etc. » Blog Archive » Fired Army Secretary Gets an Extravagant Farewell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2152581 Fucked Up Country.com - talk about the fucked up state of the United States - politics, outsourcing, illegal immigration, etc. » Blog Archive » Fired Army Secretary Gets an Extravagant Farewell Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:40:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2152581 [...] Army Secretary Who Resigned Over Walter Reed Given Lavish Farewell Ceremony [...] [...] Army Secretary Who Resigned Over Walter Reed Given Lavish Farewell Ceremony [...]

]]> By: Jack Moss http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2146160 Jack Moss Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:39:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2146160 At least he's not a hypocrite like Chuck Schumer http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/03/10/imus-nukes-schumer-on-his-hypocrisy/ At least he’s not a hypocrite like Chuck Schumer

http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2007/03/10/imus-nukes-schumer-on-his-hypocrisy/

]]> By: Army Secretary Who Resigned Over Walter Reed Given Lavish Farewell Ceremony at Basham & Cornell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2145612 Army Secretary Who Resigned Over Walter Reed Given Lavish Farewell Ceremony at Basham & Cornell Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:24:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2145612 [...] Secretary Francis Harvey resigned last week after the neglect and squalor at Walter Reed military hospital was exposed by the Washington [...] [...] Secretary Francis Harvey resigned last week after the neglect and squalor at Walter Reed military hospital was exposed by the Washington [...]

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2145580 Raymond Funamoto Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:07:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2145580 "LAVISH FAREWELL"? ALL I WOULD HAVE GIVEN Harvey WOULD HAVE BEEN A MOLDY APPLE WITH A WORM IN IT, A GLASS OF SPOILED MILK(both in keeping with current Walter Reed HIGH standards), AND A GOOD KICK IN HIS DECREPIT ASS AND A HARD PUNCH IN HIS SMIRKING FACE--AND DITTO TO Kiley, WHY THE F*UCK IS Kiley STILL THERE????? “LAVISH FAREWELL”? ALL I WOULD HAVE GIVEN Harvey WOULD HAVE BEEN A MOLDY APPLE WITH A WORM IN IT, A GLASS OF SPOILED MILK(both in keeping with current Walter Reed HIGH standards), AND A GOOD KICK IN HIS DECREPIT ASS AND A HARD PUNCH IN HIS SMIRKING FACE–AND DITTO TO Kiley, WHY THE F*UCK IS Kiley STILL THERE?????

]]> By: Kate Henry http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2144336 Kate Henry Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:12:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2144336 "Some of you sound like you are frothing at the mouth and that is frankly embarrassing." What is embarassing is that the military would honor someone who cared so little about the people he was supposed to protect. It's the same with Rumsfield - he gets "honored" for getting us into the worst military mess I have seen in my lifetime. What the Bushies and the Republics honor is anyone who contributes to the military industrial complex. Funny thing about that term, it was Eisenhower who coined the phrase. I'll bet he is turning over in his grave every day seeing how his warnings were ignored. “Some of you sound like you are frothing at the mouth and that is frankly embarrassing.”

What is embarassing is that the military would honor someone who cared so little about the people he was supposed to protect.

It’s the same with Rumsfield – he gets “honored” for getting us into the worst military mess I have seen in my lifetime.

What the Bushies and the Republics honor is anyone who contributes to the military industrial complex. Funny thing about that term, it was Eisenhower who coined the phrase. I’ll bet he is turning over in his grave every day seeing how his warnings were ignored.

]]> By: Noble Freden http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2142961 Noble Freden Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:06:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2142961 Surely, our wonderful president should award the former Sec of the Army the Medal of Freedom. He has already awarded the Medal to several who failed the nation. Surely, our wonderful president should award the former Sec of the Army
the Medal of Freedom. He has already awarded the Medal to several
who failed the nation.

]]> By: danang http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2142945 danang Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:56:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2142945 I was in and around the military for 20 years, both as a military brat and a participant in the fiasco in Vietnam as a door gunner/observer in the Army Air Cav. If you think our military gives a shit about the average soldier you are sadly mistaken. This is not to say that there is no comaraderie in the ranks, or commanders who care for their troops. But to the organization itself ordinary soldiers are just so much cannon fodder. Francis Harvey and Gen. Kiley are prime examples of that. Eisenhower was right, but I think the M/I complex monster is now too big and powerful to smite. Be afraid, be very afraid-but not of enemies from outside our borders. I was in and around the military for 20 years, both as a military brat and a participant in the fiasco in Vietnam as a door gunner/observer in the Army Air Cav. If you think our military gives a shit about the average soldier you are sadly mistaken. This is not to say that there is no comaraderie in the ranks, or commanders who care for their troops. But to the organization itself ordinary soldiers are just so much cannon fodder. Francis Harvey and Gen. Kiley are prime examples of that. Eisenhower was right, but I think the M/I complex monster is now too big and powerful to smite. Be afraid, be very afraid-but not of enemies from outside our borders.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2142389 unbelievable Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:28:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2142389 Does this mean we should start giving every criminal who is released from prison a Rolls Royce and Platnum Mastercard? They are having a party - at our expense... Literally. Does this mean we should start giving every criminal who is released from prison a Rolls Royce and Platnum Mastercard?

They are having a party – at our expense… Literally.

]]> By: cwazycajun http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2142017 cwazycajun Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:49:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2142017 WHaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! no medal of freedom Im agast I thought all incompetent worthless powerhungry ppl in the bushit admin got one but better yet they can put a boot up his ass when he leaves cause thats the american way atleast it use to be WHaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! no medal of freedom Im agast I thought all incompetent worthless powerhungry ppl in the bushit admin got one but better yet they can put a boot up his ass when he leaves cause thats the american way atleast it use to be

]]> By: willie watson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2141281 willie watson Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2141281 I agree wholeheartedly with mandolina's suggestion. I agree wholeheartedly with mandolina’s suggestion.

]]> By: geek http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2140949 geek Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:54:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2140949 The Secretary of the Army tends to be figure head. The funding and priorities determined by the Congress. Managing the institution means fighting externally DOD and the Congress for more money, and internally Generals who are protectors of their own turf. Harvey tried to use management slogans to foster change and fell victim to a institution that condenses all issues down to power point slides and is afraid to rock the boat and is hugely under funded The Secretary of the Army tends to be figure head.

The funding and priorities determined by the Congress.

Managing the institution means fighting externally DOD and the Congress for more money, and internally Generals who are protectors of their own turf.

Harvey tried to use management slogans to foster change and fell victim to a institution that condenses all issues down to power point slides and is afraid to rock the boat and is hugely under funded

]]> By: share http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2139627 share Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:24:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2139627 His "contact us" page: http://gingrey.house.gov/ ..... This is beyond sick. Food? Like the fresh meat of an amputated limb? One of the horror stories had a rat gnawing on the bandaged leg of one of these poor guys. And what's poison for cockroaches is probably poison for humans too. We treat cats and dogs far better than we treat our troops. I can't take much more of this. ..... Blaming the Victims Just another case of the heartless right wing blaming the victims. ..Let more of them come forward and say stuff exactly like this. Bring it."Supporting the troops," my ass... Un-effin-believable. Words cannot describe my revulsion at this man's comments..... Comparing Walter Reed to a motel? What a retard!..... RePuke sh*thead!......Why do these people hate America? His “contact us” page: http://gingrey.house.gov/

….. This is beyond sick.

Food? Like the fresh meat of an amputated limb? One of the horror stories had a rat gnawing on the bandaged leg of one of these poor guys. And what’s poison for cockroaches is probably poison for humans too. We treat cats and dogs far better than we treat our troops.

I can’t take much more of this.

….. Blaming the Victims

Just another case of the heartless right wing blaming the victims.
..Let more of them come forward and say stuff exactly like this. Bring it.”Supporting the troops,” my ass… Un-effin-believable.

Words cannot describe my revulsion at this man’s comments…..

Comparing Walter Reed to a motel? What a retard!….. RePuke sh*thead!……Why do these people hate America?

]]> By: Motorjoe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2139593 Motorjoe Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:56:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2139593 The Army in Europe has announced that there will be no officially sponsored "Welcome Home" celebrations for returning troops due to lack of funds. The Army further advised that ceremonies such as "Change of Commands"would not be affected as these were "Tradition". The Army in Europe has announced that there will be no officially sponsored “Welcome Home” celebrations for returning troops due to lack of funds. The Army further advised that ceremonies such as “Change of Commands”would not be affected as these were “Tradition”.

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2136574 JPark Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:21:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2136574 #4 <em>I was hoping you’d give Congressman Obey’s, remarks to a fed-up military mom some coverage. </em> Aphrolite. It is getting covered by TP. See, those of us on the left don't cover for our own if they are out of line. It would be nice if you righties were the same way. #24 <em>uhm… i am sometimes embarrassed of how little my fellow liberals know about how the military works</em> Benji, since when are you a liberal, Halliburton boy? #4 I was hoping you’d give Congressman Obey’s, remarks to a fed-up military mom some coverage.

Aphrolite. It is getting covered by TP. See, those of us on the left don’t cover for our own if they are out of line. It would be nice if you righties were the same way.

#24 uhm… i am sometimes embarrassed of how little my fellow liberals know about how the military works

Benji, since when are you a liberal, Halliburton boy?

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-2136267 WaltTheMan Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:11:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/army-sec-farewell-ceremony/#comment-2136267 Actually, he should be given a 21 gun salute by a firing squad. Actually, he should be given a 21 gun salute by a firing squad.

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