Such a loss not to have one more right-wing idiot fulminating on CNN about nothing for far too many minutes. Hours roll by and CNN repeats the same trivial half-baked propaganda bits for the White House over and over and over. I stopped watching eons ago.
“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
Comment by hacker bob — March 9, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
So D. Obey is going to introduce a bill cutting the funds for Bush’s farce.
Hmm, so the fascist propaganda network, CNN (Corporate Nazi Noise). won’t be employing T. Dale DeLay? Why, is he not shrill enough for them? Maybe T. Dale DeLay needs to restart up his lovely Internet blog. (Oh, maybe it is still on the web, in its Reich-censored form… I haven’t bother to check it out recently.)
After a year and two months sabbatical from cable or satellite TV, I finally have returned to samplying the modern, corporate world with the satellite services of DishTV’s Top 100 offerings. Fortunately, that package doesn’t include “Fox News.” Unfortunately, it doesn’t include MSNBC, so I will have to continue to live without Keith O. and his fine comments.
Also, DishTV’s Top 100 channels includes no movie channels, so you have to pony up more monthly fees for those…
“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
Comment by hacker bob
Then D.Obey needs to get his ass out on the floor of the house and make it happen some other way. Either he show us why Americans are dieing in Iraq and what the hell that has to do with 911 or he needs to realize he is screwing over innocent people. He is the one with the power. Its his responsibility.
“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
Comment by hacker bob
First “yelling” at the Marine’s mother is a huge stretch and shee doesn’t seem to take his comments as offensive at all. Plus he explained to her that he is introducing a bill to end the war which would make the funding of the war moot. As he explains in the video. Did you watch the video bob or just jump from Drudge to here?
DeLay is not joining CNN, a network spokesperson tells TVNewser.
shouldn’t there be something more direct from CNN ?
i couldn’t find anything when googled “Delay, CNN”…
except: Republicans could face new ethics probes
CNN – Mar 7, 2007
They singled out former GOP Majority Leader Tom DeLay, the subject of several ethics probes, and were handed a pre-election scandal when it was disclosed …
yea! let’s get THAT guy to speak for us! …good one, cnn…
thanks…
I watched the video. Your isolated quote paints the Congressman in a false light.
But because you posted, I was able to see Representative Obey’s committment to ending the war, and his frustration over Republican Obstructionism.
Rep. Obey wants to fund the troops, not the war. He wants to end the authorization for the war, while providing money for body armor and medical treatment.
Question, bob, given the whole context of the conversation, why would you want to paint someone as honorable and concerned as Rep. Obey in a false light?
If he succeeds in his approach, it will save Marine’s lives. Yet you seek to demean and belittle him.
More soldiers die each and every day, with no end in sight, nor is an end planned while Bush is in office. Yet you continue to support Bush by belittling anyone who truly opposes him.
katy, for what it is worth, I sensed the frustration of a man deeply concerned over the needless loss of life and the poor treatment of our women and men in uniform by the Bush Administration and the obstructionism by the Republican minority.
I have found CNN’s search site is often too useless to even try.
But I did just read of Delay not going to work for CNN on another website for TV news.
When is that phony going to trial – or is the prosecution dragging it out so Delay can have that constantly hanging over his head.
He was indicted – the trial will have to start sometime!
Katy, I agree with BnF. Obey apologized for his abruptness and improper language, but I do believe it was the result of his frustration in dealing with the war issue.
I am in total sympathy with the mother, certainly, but efforts to bring the war to a close should be directed at Repugs who stand behind Bush, and want to drag this out until the Dems take over in 2009.
Obey was angry cause he’s too scared to stand up and do the right thing and defund the war, which is the only way to stop it. He’s lying to himself. Rather than admit the truth he curses at the Marine mother. What a freakin coward he is.
Marie
It’s the holdout Dems that are the problem. The bluedogs and the cowards who won’t stand up for the troops. It’s the Dems taking money from AIPAC and hiding behind a pretense of ‘finding a strategy for success’ and other bs.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 9, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Hey, Obey wanting to stop the war is fine. Being frustrated is understandable. His conduct in this situation is questionable to say the least.
Instead of exercising his frustrations where they belong, in Congress and at the Administration, he blasts the mother of a Marine? Does that make any sense to you?
Go ahead and continue to excuse bad behavior. Remember, he was expressing his frustrations at “the stupid liberals” that do not understand the complexities of the issue.
As for my “belittling” someone as “honorable” as Obey:
1) I would never treat the mother of a Marine the way he did.
2) How were his actions honorable? His frustration is with the ADMIN and he takes it out on this woman.
3) It has nothing to do with whether or not I support Bush. If Clinton, Gore, or Mickey Mouse were President and any member of Congress did this in this situation, I would feel the same.
Obey should have been yelling at him self for being a coward and not doing what he know is the right thing to save the lives of the troops. Withdraw the funding, and force them to come home. Nothing else will stop Bush from continuing to slaughter more and more innnocent people.
What I saw from the video was a congressman that is frustrated. With explaining again and again what his position is. Granted I don’t agree with everything he says and his tone was stern. But to say he was yellling at the women is a false comment. His position is also misrepresented by those who just say he won’t vote no for the supplement. Half truths are still lies when you obviously leave out important info that would change the perspective of his position. As to his behavior it was too confrontational for my values especially when she was asking a legitimate question but yelling it was not. But I guess some have to make excuses for their own bad behavior in slandering someone.
But to say he was yellling at the women is a false comment.
It’s not a false comment. It’s what I saw and heard. He cursed repeatedly and she stood their quietly and calmly while he ranted even more. He was using curses to stop her argument. He had no argument. Rather than admit that he cursed and flailed. It was a pathetic display of a man unwilling to admit the truth. That the only possible way to stop the war is to stop the funding. And he’s too afraid to do that. Rather than admit that he yells and curses and flails. It’s the behavior of someone in denial who won’t take responsibility. ANd it’s pathetic.
Sorry, sweetie, I concider it yelling anytime you begin to raise your voice at another person and become very animated in your gestures.
Comment by hacker bob
No need to be be sorry snookie woomkins, you can feel any way you want to about it. Just trying to put my two cents in there too. But I still don’t care for the “he is voting for the supplemental” but leaving out the fact he is co-writing a bill to end the war. As I said half-truths and all that.
#38 – hacker bob,
We have two people here, each at the end of their rope. Obey because of frustration and a mother because she was concerned about her child. Both reacted out of turn, but that is what happens when emotions are at issue. In my mind, Obey traipsed about 5-10% over the line that was exhibited by the mother. He did that because he sees that in spite of a Democratic majority in Congress; there is no way to override the President when margins are as slim as they are. This is especially crucial when a loyal member of the Knesset is spying on their caucus in the Senate.
Hack,
The man explained his position quite clearly in the video. He thinks the supplemental is necessary because it funds the troops to function. At the same time he is introducing legislation to stop the war. Do you have any proof that would say that he is wrong? Anything that states that the supplemental bill is not necessary to do the things he says it is needed for? Link it or stop using it in an arguement. Personally I don’t agree with him. All funding for the armed forces should be stopped immediately. But I don’t know how the intricate workings of the funding bills works. I don’t pretend to. If you know exactly how the supplemental works and the rest of the armed forces funding exactly works please let us all know.
It has nothing to do with whether or not I support Bush. If Clinton, Gore, or Mickey Mouse were President and any member of Congress did this in this situation, I would feel the same.
Comment by hacker bob
Hey Hack – are you such a little wimp that some guy speaking passionatly about the best way to stop the war upsets you. You neocons are so sensitive.
Did you time how long he spoke to the woman? Did you time how long he spoke so quietly you couldn’t understand what he was say. Didn’t think so.
My Republican congresswoman doesn’t even have a working email link.
Her name’s Judy Biggert. If you see that Republican bitch tell her to f### off.
Knesset=the unicameral parliament of Israel. (dictionary.com)
Comment by hacker bob
Hey Hack – you’re a cute little girl but I think Zooey was talking about this-This is especially crucial when a loyal member of the Knesset is spying on their caucus in the Senate.
I know its confusing for you when somebody doesn’t stay exactly on your talking points but try to keep up.
Once the bill is signed, I will recieve a copy of it via Chain of Comman
Comment by hacker bob
Sure you do.
By the way you hijacked this post that was about Tom Delay.
What you want is for Dems stop funding the war so that you Repugs can use it to get more votes and you don’t care how many soldier would be left in danger so you get your votes.
Oh yeah but to you Repukes SAYING you support the troops is apparently the only thing that matters.
One thing you and I agree on (I think) is tha thte ONLY way to stop the war is to close the purse, but neither side will do that.
Comment by hacker bob
With all the late night teenage name calling aside yes that is the only way to take it out of the Chimperor’s hands. Defund it. But how that is done with continuing to fund the services for vital means is beyond my personal expertise.
Unlike you members of the Kool-Aid Crew, I will not just brush off bad behavior. I do not care how “frustrated” Obey was, he had not right to take the tone he did. He needs to direct that energy into the halls of Congress, but obviously does not have the balls to do it. Instead, he takes it out on a concerned mother.
Umm, sweetheart, I am an active duty Marine. This literally affects my life. It is not a Republican/Democrat thing.
If the funding is stopped, we can not continue to fight. If we can not continue to fight, the American public will DEMAND that we are home NOW.
The Dem Resolution wants a withdrawl to begin by Aug of 08. That is 1 1/2 years from now. That is 1190 deaths of my brothers and sisters in arms. If the purse is closed, we can start the withdrawl sooner, reducing the numbers of deaths of the US military members AND innocent Iraqis.
One of the first things we would have to do as a money saving effort is to stop paying some of out over paid, under needed contractors. Not just the Mercs, but the (Halliburton) mess hall crews and such.
I don’t drink artificial crap. Freshly squeezed is the only way to go. In my mind Kool-Aid drinkers never change their mind on any issue. So the same can be said about you I guess. Obey “yelled” at the woman even though she seemed to take his nature calmly and listened to him without being offended.
Not just the Mercs, but the (Halliburton) mess hall crews and such.
Comment by hacker bob
Never understood how the army got so inept that they couldn’t figure out how to feed their own troops. Either that or someone makes a crap load of money. hmmmmm.
Because if he spoke to my mother or wife is such a way, I would put him on his a$$.
Comment by hacker bob
But would you consider the fact that your mother or wife might not want you to put him on his ass? Or do your protective feelings override a woman’s feelings.
I gave you what my definition of “yell†is. Accept it or not.
Comment by hacker bob
I guess the person’s definition of “yell” that matters the most is the woman in the video. Could be wrong but she didn’t seem to get as upset about it as you are. Just sayin’.
Men like to jump to the defense of a woman, but women can handle themselves — unless they’re flat out on the ground. Then I would support an ass kicking.
Yes, her opinion is the most important one. More important that Obey’s, mine, or yours.
I just look at it this way. You are going to tell me how much you respect me and care for me and want to take care of me, then treat someone dear to me like that. Completely inappropriate.
Fine you can think that way but waht was also inappropriate was to make a half truth comment on his position on the war. The way you said made it seem like he was for the war. FoxNewsish like. Tell half the story and let the people make up their minds on a half truth. Be better than that.
If it means anything at all, I would have the same reaction if he talked to my father that way as well.
Comment by hacker bob
Men don’t like to be patronized either, Robert.
Listen, I’m not saying you’re wrong to have these feelings. I’m just saying take a breath and step back a moment. The situation may already be under control.
Umm, sweetheart, I am an active duty Marine.
Hack -
Really, I bet you say that to all the girls.
For a Marine you seem to lack discipline.
So you be the Marine and I’ll be the Republican.
#93 – hacker bob,
I watched the tape about four times and still see two people totally frustrated. I still believe that Obey lost it but that the mother pushed him over the edge. As I said before, it was 5-10% his fault over the 50% mark, but both were in an emotional struggle.
Too late again. Everyone gone bye-bye. We left-coasters are at a disadvantage.
I was gonna say ” if CNN ever needs an expert on how to deregulate the pesticide business so your company can make more profit (so what if people die?)—then they can have Tom DeLay on as an expert. Other than that, what is he an expert on—how to go from legalized bribery to illegal bribery?”
For an excellent article on Iran & Iraq by Noam Chomsky go here:
Comment by WaltTheMan — March 10, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Walt, I appreciate your oppinion on this. The point is just what you said, he was over the line on this one. To his benifit, I read this morning that he did issue an apology.
Dlet and Zooey, here is another point that dlet and I started to explore earlier. What is you reaction anytime someone on the right speaks in such a way to say, Cindy Sheehan?
Shane, anytime you want to match SRBs, let me know.
The terrible thing abiut CNN is they pretend to be a counter to FOX when they are, in fact, FOX’s ugly sister wannabe. It is irrelevant whether they add DeLay or not add Delay. CNN will continue to be the purveyors of disinformation and propaganda. Blitzer’s behavior after the Libby verdict is a great indication of what they are all about.
Jeff
Valencia
When a thread is about something DeLay is not doing, it goes dead fairly quickly. It’s not the first time something like this has happened, and it won’t be the last. Not a big deal, really.
None of us is really all that far apart in our thinking, even hacker bob. As progressives/liberals, we celebrate our differences, but we also need to learn to get along.
I guess most people just aren’t that interested in hearing who’s sqealing on who and who is the new bitch on the cell block. CNN Live At The Big House doesn’t have that, je ne c’est crois, that most news shows proudly tout.
Dlet and Zooey, here is another point that dlet and I started to explore earlier. What is you reaction anytime someone on the right speaks in such a way to say, Cindy Sheehan?
Shane, anytime you want to match SRBs, let me know.
Comment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007
Better question is what’s your reaction to Cindy Sheehan.
And I don’t know what SRBs are.
Oh, and I am a wife of 22 years and a monther of a little girl and you told me to “Eat shit.” So I guess like Rep. Obey you lose your patience sometimes. Just saying, I thought Marines, like my brother inlaw were more disciplined.
I know for a fact that hacker bob is what he says he is.
When a thread is about something DeLay is not doing, it goes dead fairly quickly
Comment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 11:26
Zooey – how exactly do you know that hacker bob is a Marine because that piece of info seemed to come out of nowhere.
And he posted her FIRST. So the area went dead before it started. And why was this the place to post about Rep. Obey. How is it related here. If we all basically agree, and I hope we do, then why be so easily distracted from the task at hand.
And how is spinning the behavior of Rep. Obey so negatively beneficial to Progressives. I’m a woman and a mother and I saw him being more patient than I would have been. And why wasn’t she asking questions of a Republican who is voting entirely for escalation. And who was taking the picture of her speaking to a Democrat. And with all the available scandals where would this meeting rank in importance?
Just saying.
DeLay MUST HAVE SEEN MY BLOG ABOUT SNAPPING HIS GEEK-NECK LIKE A ROTTEN TWIG AND GOTTEN SCARED TO JOIN CNN–OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE INUNDATED HIM WITH MISSIVES FROM MY E-MAILED HAM-FISTS!!!!!
Better question is what’s your reaction to Cindy Sheehan.
Cindy Sheehan has the right to do and say everything she has said and done. I hold nothing against her for it. She paid a very heavy price and deserves to be listened to. She is not the moral authority and her loss is not greater than the loss other parents have had to deal with, but she does deserve respect and to have her voice heard.
And I don’t know what SRBs are.
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Oh, and I am a wife of 22 years and a monther of a little girl and you told me to “Eat shit.†So I guess like Rep. Obey you lose your patience sometimes. Just saying, I thought Marines, like my brother inlaw were more disciplined.
Ok, I am a husband of 17 years and a father of 2 girls and a boy. I erroniously though you were a male. I know, no excuse. But remember who went on the attack with the name calling and such first. If you cone out of the box like that, you beg that kind of reaction. It was more of a “just shut up”. If you were offended, I apologize.
How was it benificial to Progressives to post or “spin” it that way? Let’s see:
1) It shows that the people that you support are failable.
2) It shows the level of respect he has for his constituants.
Comment by Shane — March 10, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
How does Zooey know for a fact I am what I say? Zoo and I have been communicating for a while now. She has seen the proof.
2) It shows the level of respect he has for his constituants.
Comment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
No harm and no foul I can take just about anything to get the war ended before they draft my little girl.
But how do we know the lady was his constituent? I didn’t really hear her say that and they didn’t meet in his office but in the hallway.
If a constituent had a meeting with him do you think it would be in the hallway? And since there was a camera there how do you know she wasn’t a Republican plant from some other district determined to stay in his face until he lost his patience. If seemed like a pretty long confrontation to me and it seemed like it took him a long time until he even raised his voice loud enough for us to understand what he was saying.
And lastly, I haven’t posted here that long but there seems to be an ever growing amount of posts off topic and maybe more interpersonal than is expeditious to achieve any governmental reform.
It was more of a “just shut upâ€. If you were offended, I apologize.
Comment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
And I’m an old school women’s libber and Viet Nam War hippie and I would be happier if you’d just treat women like you would a man under the same circumstances and I don’t get offended I get even. LOL
Robert (hacker bob) needs a woman like you in his TP life, and we appreciate the backup.
Sorry, sometimes we venture off topic, and I know sometimes we drive new people apeshit. Some of us have been posting here since 2005, and have gotten to know each other pretty well, and sometimes we drift.
We’ve been asking TP for open threads on the weekends, but do they listen? No.
Yep, I know hacker bob. We agree on approximately 10-12 things, and I think he’s coming along nicely. :)
From the “Caught on Tape Dept”..
Congressman David Obey (D-Wi) caught on tape yelling at a US Marines mother when she asked him to vote against the newest suppliment for Iraq.
“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized that”-D.Obey
March 9th, 2007 at 7:43 pmSuch a loss not to have one more right-wing idiot fulminating on CNN about nothing for far too many minutes. Hours roll by and CNN repeats the same trivial half-baked propaganda bits for the White House over and over and over. I stopped watching eons ago.
March 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pmSell crazy someplace else tommy boy….try Fakes news.
March 9th, 2007 at 7:56 pm“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
Comment by hacker bob — March 9, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
So D. Obey is going to introduce a bill cutting the funds for Bush’s farce.
March 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pmwell there ya go, it was just another lie from just another disgraced Republican’t.
March 9th, 2007 at 8:05 pmBut is he going to get the job at Burger King?
March 9th, 2007 at 8:12 pmHmm, so the fascist propaganda network, CNN (Corporate Nazi Noise). won’t be employing T. Dale DeLay? Why, is he not shrill enough for them? Maybe T. Dale DeLay needs to restart up his lovely Internet blog. (Oh, maybe it is still on the web, in its Reich-censored form… I haven’t bother to check it out recently.)
After a year and two months sabbatical from cable or satellite TV, I finally have returned to samplying the modern, corporate world with the satellite services of DishTV’s Top 100 offerings. Fortunately, that package doesn’t include “Fox News.” Unfortunately, it doesn’t include MSNBC, so I will have to continue to live without Keith O. and his fine comments.
Also, DishTV’s Top 100 channels includes no movie channels, so you have to pony up more monthly fees for those…
Cheers.
March 9th, 2007 at 8:14 pmPerhaps CNN will so the same thing and give the pink slip to the morally repugnant Glenn Beck.
March 9th, 2007 at 8:53 pmGlenn Beck is morally, logically, and intellectually repugnant.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:02 pm“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
Comment by hacker bob
Then D.Obey needs to get his ass out on the floor of the house and make it happen some other way. Either he show us why Americans are dieing in Iraq and what the hell that has to do with 911 or he needs to realize he is screwing over innocent people. He is the one with the power. Its his responsibility.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHere is the Obey video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAlkfYczY4c
March 9th, 2007 at 9:10 pmoh, ro-bert… link, please…
“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
can’t seem to find that one one the world wide web…
March 9th, 2007 at 9:13 pmuyp… refresh – there it is… thanks…
March 9th, 2007 at 9:14 pm“Voting ‘NO’ on this bill will not stop the war in Iraq. It is time the stupid liberals realized thatâ€-D.Obey
Comment by hacker bob
First “yelling” at the Marine’s mother is a huge stretch and shee doesn’t seem to take his comments as offensive at all. Plus he explained to her that he is introducing a bill to end the war which would make the funding of the war moot. As he explains in the video. Did you watch the video bob or just jump from Drudge to here?
March 9th, 2007 at 9:14 pmKaty,
It’s here.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:15 pmCNN :”The whole issue has been DELAYED”…
March 9th, 2007 at 9:19 pmThe issue is DeLaytful
March 9th, 2007 at 9:27 pmwow … obey … nice guy…
he said a lot of things that need corroberated…
by someone who would enjoy it more than i…
i have a hard time listening to someone so testy and ready to burst…
just what was his message to that woman ? …
good photo-journalism there… a whole new world on youtube…
March 9th, 2007 at 9:28 pmComment by dlet — March 9, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
1) I don’t do Drudge, sorry.
2) Yes I watched the video.
3) Was his tone appropriate to use with ANY constituent, much less the mother of a Marine that has served 2 tours in Iraq and is about to use his 3rd?
4) Do you excuse bad behaviour for everyone?
March 9th, 2007 at 9:35 pmA everyone else knows (and DeLay just found out), a criminal background prevents you from landing a job.
Now someone please get that man an orange jumpsuit!
March 9th, 2007 at 9:42 pmback on topic:
DeLay is not joining CNN, a network spokesperson tells TVNewser.
shouldn’t there be something more direct from CNN ?
i couldn’t find anything when googled “Delay, CNN”…
except:
Republicans could face new ethics probes
CNN – Mar 7, 2007
They singled out former GOP Majority Leader Tom DeLay, the subject of several ethics probes, and were handed a pre-election scandal when it was disclosed …
yea! let’s get THAT guy to speak for us! …good one, cnn…
March 9th, 2007 at 9:45 pmthanks…
Comment by hacker bob — March 9, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
I watched the video. Your isolated quote paints the Congressman in a false light.
But because you posted, I was able to see Representative Obey’s committment to ending the war, and his frustration over Republican Obstructionism.
Rep. Obey wants to fund the troops, not the war. He wants to end the authorization for the war, while providing money for body armor and medical treatment.
Question, bob, given the whole context of the conversation, why would you want to paint someone as honorable and concerned as Rep. Obey in a false light?
If he succeeds in his approach, it will save Marine’s lives. Yet you seek to demean and belittle him.
More soldiers die each and every day, with no end in sight, nor is an end planned while Bush is in office. Yet you continue to support Bush by belittling anyone who truly opposes him.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:48 pmComment by katy — March 9, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
katy, for what it is worth, I sensed the frustration of a man deeply concerned over the needless loss of life and the poor treatment of our women and men in uniform by the Bush Administration and the obstructionism by the Republican minority.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:51 pmI have found CNN’s search site is often too useless to even try.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:56 pmBut I did just read of Delay not going to work for CNN on another website for TV news.
When is that phony going to trial – or is the prosecution dragging it out so Delay can have that constantly hanging over his head.
He was indicted – the trial will have to start sometime!
Katy, I agree with BnF. Obey apologized for his abruptness and improper language, but I do believe it was the result of his frustration in dealing with the war issue.
March 9th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI am in total sympathy with the mother, certainly, but efforts to bring the war to a close should be directed at Repugs who stand behind Bush, and want to drag this out until the Dems take over in 2009.
Obey was angry cause he’s too scared to stand up and do the right thing and defund the war, which is the only way to stop it. He’s lying to himself. Rather than admit the truth he curses at the Marine mother. What a freakin coward he is.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:06 pmMarie
March 9th, 2007 at 10:06 pmYou are so totallly wrong. Efforts to stop the war need to directed at the hold out Dems. The Dems have the majority Marie. Get real.
thanks BnF, Marie, diet, all…
have a better understanding of the situation…
btw – my search was in google news and that one was the latest…
March 9th, 2007 at 10:07 pmComment by ChildrenofLir — March 9, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Ummm, did you miss the part where REPUBLICANS FILIBUSTERED A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION that would have embarassed the President by opposing his “surge”?
Nearly 200 Americans have died while the Republican minority protects their President from any potential embarassment.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:21 pmWe do NOT have the majority we need in the Senate to get anything passed. That is where we need to direct our efforts.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:21 pmMarie
March 9th, 2007 at 10:25 pmIt’s the holdout Dems that are the problem. The bluedogs and the cowards who won’t stand up for the troops. It’s the Dems taking money from AIPAC and hiding behind a pretense of ‘finding a strategy for success’ and other bs.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 9, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Hey, Obey wanting to stop the war is fine. Being frustrated is understandable. His conduct in this situation is questionable to say the least.
Instead of exercising his frustrations where they belong, in Congress and at the Administration, he blasts the mother of a Marine? Does that make any sense to you?
Go ahead and continue to excuse bad behavior. Remember, he was expressing his frustrations at “the stupid liberals” that do not understand the complexities of the issue.
As for my “belittling” someone as “honorable” as Obey:
March 9th, 2007 at 10:31 pm1) I would never treat the mother of a Marine the way he did.
2) How were his actions honorable? His frustration is with the ADMIN and he takes it out on this woman.
3) It has nothing to do with whether or not I support Bush. If Clinton, Gore, or Mickey Mouse were President and any member of Congress did this in this situation, I would feel the same.
Obey should have been yelling at him self for being a coward and not doing what he know is the right thing to save the lives of the troops. Withdraw the funding, and force them to come home. Nothing else will stop Bush from continuing to slaughter more and more innnocent people.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWhat I saw from the video was a congressman that is frustrated. With explaining again and again what his position is. Granted I don’t agree with everything he says and his tone was stern. But to say he was yellling at the women is a false comment. His position is also misrepresented by those who just say he won’t vote no for the supplement. Half truths are still lies when you obviously leave out important info that would change the perspective of his position. As to his behavior it was too confrontational for my values especially when she was asking a legitimate question but yelling it was not. But I guess some have to make excuses for their own bad behavior in slandering someone.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:50 pmBut to say he was yellling at the women is a false comment.
It’s not a false comment. It’s what I saw and heard. He cursed repeatedly and she stood their quietly and calmly while he ranted even more. He was using curses to stop her argument. He had no argument. Rather than admit that he cursed and flailed. It was a pathetic display of a man unwilling to admit the truth. That the only possible way to stop the war is to stop the funding. And he’s too afraid to do that. Rather than admit that he yells and curses and flails. It’s the behavior of someone in denial who won’t take responsibility. ANd it’s pathetic.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pmComment by dlet — March 9, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
Sorry, sweetie, I concider it yelling anytime you begin to raise your voice at another person and become very animated in your gestures.
March 9th, 2007 at 10:58 pm1) I would never treat the mother of a Marine the way he did.
Comment by hacker bob — March 9, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
It looks like he’s mimicking the right’s treatment of Cindy Sheehan.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:03 pmIt looks like he’s mimicking the right’s treatment of Cindy Sheehan.
Comment by Nat — March 9, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
And I do not approve of that either.
But since the right did it, that makes it ok?
March 9th, 2007 at 11:12 pmLike the right, Obey is in denial.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:14 pmSorry, sweetie, I concider it yelling anytime you begin to raise your voice at another person and become very animated in your gestures.
Comment by hacker bob
No need to be be sorry snookie woomkins, you can feel any way you want to about it. Just trying to put my two cents in there too. But I still don’t care for the “he is voting for the supplemental” but leaving out the fact he is co-writing a bill to end the war. As I said half-truths and all that.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:21 pmhe is voting for the supplemental†but leaving out the fact he is co-writing a bill to end the war
I believe he mentions the bil he’s co-writing towards the end of his rant. It’s hard to tell due to the sound and his irrational patter.
He’s like Hilary, wants it both ways. Vote for the war and against it at the same time hoping no one will call him on the obvious contradiction.
When he is called on it, he curses and yells. Childish
March 9th, 2007 at 11:25 pmBut since the right did it, that makes it ok?
Comment by hacker bob — March 9, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
I think it was deplorable the way he treated her. I’m just saying that he’s mimicking the right’s treatment of Cindy Sheehan.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:31 pm“he is voting for the supplemental†but leaving out the fact he is co-writing a bill to end the war. As I said half-truths and all that.
Comment by dlet — March 9, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
Ok, pookie bear, follow this for a moment.
He is showing that he opposes the war by co-authoring a bill to end the war while voteing for a supplement to prolong the war.
I think the term is doublethink
March 9th, 2007 at 11:32 pm#38 – hacker bob,
March 9th, 2007 at 11:33 pmWe have two people here, each at the end of their rope. Obey because of frustration and a mother because she was concerned about her child. Both reacted out of turn, but that is what happens when emotions are at issue. In my mind, Obey traipsed about 5-10% over the line that was exhibited by the mother. He did that because he sees that in spite of a Democratic majority in Congress; there is no way to override the President when margins are as slim as they are. This is especially crucial when a loyal member of the Knesset is spying on their caucus in the Senate.
Comment by Nat — March 9, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Again, I think it was deplorable the way he treated her. I think it was deplorable the way the right treated Cindy Sheehan as well.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:34 pmYa’ll,
What WaltTheMan said.
Except the loyal member of the Knesset part — that went totally over my head. :}
March 9th, 2007 at 11:38 pmHack,
March 9th, 2007 at 11:40 pmThe man explained his position quite clearly in the video. He thinks the supplemental is necessary because it funds the troops to function. At the same time he is introducing legislation to stop the war. Do you have any proof that would say that he is wrong? Anything that states that the supplemental bill is not necessary to do the things he says it is needed for? Link it or stop using it in an arguement. Personally I don’t agree with him. All funding for the armed forces should be stopped immediately. But I don’t know how the intricate workings of the funding bills works. I don’t pretend to. If you know exactly how the supplemental works and the rest of the armed forces funding exactly works please let us all know.
Zooey
Knesset=the unicameral parliament of Israel. (dictionary.com)
March 9th, 2007 at 11:40 pmIt has nothing to do with whether or not I support Bush. If Clinton, Gore, or Mickey Mouse were President and any member of Congress did this in this situation, I would feel the same.
Comment by hacker bob
Hey Hack – are you such a little wimp that some guy speaking passionatly about the best way to stop the war upsets you. You neocons are so sensitive.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:42 pmDid you time how long he spoke to the woman? Did you time how long he spoke so quietly you couldn’t understand what he was say. Didn’t think so.
My Republican congresswoman doesn’t even have a working email link.
Her name’s Judy Biggert. If you see that Republican bitch tell her to f### off.
Knesset=the unicameral parliament of Israel. (dictionary.com)
Comment by hacker bob
I know that you frickin’ twerp! I don’t understand the “loyal member” part.
Schmendrick.
**eyes rolling**
March 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pmComment by Shane — March 9, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
eat me
March 9th, 2007 at 11:47 pmI was just trying to state that Joe Lieberman is a traitor to his party, his nation and his constituents.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:49 pmZooey
Knesset=the unicameral parliament of Israel. (dictionary.com)
Comment by hacker bob
Hey Hack – you’re a cute little girl but I think Zooey was talking about this-This is especially crucial when a loyal member of the Knesset is spying on their caucus in the Senate.
I know its confusing for you when somebody doesn’t stay exactly on your talking points but try to keep up.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:50 pmComment by dlet — March 9, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
I have not seen the exact bill yet (don’t think it is on record yet, not sure)
Once the bill is signed, I will recieve a copy of it via Chain of Command.
One thing you and I agree on (I think) is tha thte ONLY way to stop the war is to close the purse, but neither side will do that.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:51 pmeat me
Comment by hacker bob
They always do that when they get backed into a corner. Just let him go. He might put his next remark in bold.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:51 pmI was just trying to state that Joe Lieberman is a traitor to his party, his nation and his constituents.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Thank you, Walt.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:52 pmeat me
Comment by hacker bob
Hey Hack – Progressive don’t eat shit.
That’s more a neocon heads up your asses kind of thing.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:53 pmI know its confusing for you when somebody doesn’t stay exactly on your talking points but try to keep up.
Comment by Shane
I’ve got it handled, Shane. Thanks.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:53 pmComment by Shane — March 9, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
I knew what Zooey meant.
You may not realize this, but there is a little banter that happens occasionally to keep the mood lite.
Try to keep up, princess.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:54 pm#56 – Zooey,
March 9th, 2007 at 11:57 pmYou are most welcome. I will try to be less obscure in the future.
Once the bill is signed, I will recieve a copy of it via Chain of Comman
Comment by hacker bob
Sure you do.
By the way you hijacked this post that was about Tom Delay.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:59 pmWhat you want is for Dems stop funding the war so that you Repugs can use it to get more votes and you don’t care how many soldier would be left in danger so you get your votes.
Oh yeah but to you Repukes SAYING you support the troops is apparently the only thing that matters.
I think all of us here right now want this war stopped — so can we just stop arguing among ourselves for one minute?
While we’re all proving just how smart we are, the profit/war machine chugs along.
We have an item of agreement — we want the war ended — let’s work from there.
OK?
March 10th, 2007 at 12:00 amOne thing you and I agree on (I think) is tha thte ONLY way to stop the war is to close the purse, but neither side will do that.
Comment by hacker bob
With all the late night teenage name calling aside yes that is the only way to take it out of the Chimperor’s hands. Defund it. But how that is done with continuing to fund the services for vital means is beyond my personal expertise.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:00 amComment by dlet — March 9, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Unlike you members of the Kool-Aid Crew, I will not just brush off bad behavior. I do not care how “frustrated” Obey was, he had not right to take the tone he did. He needs to direct that energy into the halls of Congress, but obviously does not have the balls to do it. Instead, he takes it out on a concerned mother.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:00 amThanks Walt and Zooey
March 10th, 2007 at 12:03 amI was baffled by the Knesset reference too. Now that I get it I like it.
Comment by Shane — March 9, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Umm, sweetheart, I am an active duty Marine. This literally affects my life. It is not a Republican/Democrat thing.
If the funding is stopped, we can not continue to fight. If we can not continue to fight, the American public will DEMAND that we are home NOW.
The Dem Resolution wants a withdrawl to begin by Aug of 08. That is 1 1/2 years from now. That is 1190 deaths of my brothers and sisters in arms. If the purse is closed, we can start the withdrawl sooner, reducing the numbers of deaths of the US military members AND innocent Iraqis.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:06 amInstead, he takes it out on a concerned mother.
Comment by hacker bob
Robert, you are more offended than that mother was! Why not give her credit for understanding her own feelings?
March 10th, 2007 at 12:07 amI will try to be less obscure in the future.
Comment by WaltTheMan
I will try to be less dense. :)
March 10th, 2007 at 12:08 amComment by dlet — March 10, 2007 @ 12:00 am
One of the first things we would have to do as a money saving effort is to stop paying some of out over paid, under needed contractors. Not just the Mercs, but the (Halliburton) mess hall crews and such.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Thanks for finally spitting that out, Robert. :D
Maybe you should change your name to hacker bob, USMC.
Heh.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 12:07 am
Because if he spoke to my mother or wife is such a way, I would put him on his a$$.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:11 amUnlike you members of the Kool-Aid Crew,
Comment by hacker bob
I don’t drink artificial crap. Freshly squeezed is the only way to go. In my mind Kool-Aid drinkers never change their mind on any issue. So the same can be said about you I guess. Obey “yelled” at the woman even though she seemed to take his nature calmly and listened to him without being offended.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 12:10 am
I try not to use that as my sole position on things
March 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amI don’t understand this at all. Obey is very liberal. Why is he burning his base?
March 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amNot just the Mercs, but the (Halliburton) mess hall crews and such.
Comment by hacker bob
Never understood how the army got so inept that they couldn’t figure out how to feed their own troops. Either that or someone makes a crap load of money. hmmmmm.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:15 amComment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 12:07 am
bob is still dealing with his own demons.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:15 amBecause if he spoke to my mother or wife is such a way, I would put him on his a$$.
Comment by hacker bob
But would you consider the fact that your mother or wife might not want you to put him on his ass? Or do your protective feelings override a woman’s feelings.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:16 am#68 – Zooey,
March 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amDo you float in mercury? Roger_Roger doesn’t.
I don’t understand this at all. Obey is very liberal. Why is he burning his base?
Comment by JPark
That’s what I thought. Only answer I can think of is frustration. I bet there will be an apology/statement/explanation about this.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amI try not to use that as my sole position on things
Comment by SSgt hacker bob, USMC
As it should be. :)
March 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amby the way, on the topic of the thread….
I was soooo looking forward to not watching CNN once DeLay was on board.
oh, and if you think Scooter is a terrible name for a prison inmate…what about De-Lay?
March 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amComment by dlet — March 10, 2007 @ 12:13 am
I gave you what my definition of “yell” is. Accept it or not.
And I squeezed it myself.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amDo you float in mercury? Roger_Roger doesn’t.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Walt, I really hope I’m never in a position to find out.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:19 amBut if Dung_Dung doesn’t, I’m sure I do. :)
Either that or someone makes a crap load of money
DING, DING, DING, Give the man a cigar….
Or do your protective feelings override a woman’s feelings.
Comment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Not going there
March 10th, 2007 at 12:20 amOy, Walt. That one just hit me between the eyes.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:20 amYou are too good. :-D
bob is still dealing with his own demons.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
I know. As am I.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:22 amI gave you what my definition of “yell†is. Accept it or not.
Comment by hacker bob
I guess the person’s definition of “yell” that matters the most is the woman in the video. Could be wrong but she didn’t seem to get as upset about it as you are. Just sayin’.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:23 am#79 There has to be an apology coming. Obey is one of the best we have from Wisconsin. This really blew my mind.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:24 amI was soooo looking forward to not watching CNN once DeLay was on board.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 10, 2007 @ 12:17 am
Once WHO was onboard??? Oh, him.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:24 amNot going there
Comment by hacker bob
You don’t have to. But just think about it, ok?
Men like to jump to the defense of a woman, but women can handle themselves — unless they’re flat out on the ground. Then I would support an ass kicking.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:25 amMy #78 – To explain that, Hg, mercury, a metal, is about the densest liquid at room temperature on Earth. It is about 13 times the density of water.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:25 amComment by dlet — March 10, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Yes, her opinion is the most important one. More important that Obey’s, mine, or yours.
I just look at it this way. You are going to tell me how much you respect me and care for me and want to take care of me, then treat someone dear to me like that. Completely inappropriate.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:28 am#92 – Walt, see my re-surfacing from the mercury at #85. Heh.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:29 amComment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 12:25 am
If it means anything at all, I would have the same reaction if he talked to my father that way as well.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by hacker bob
Fine you can think that way but waht was also inappropriate was to make a half truth comment on his position on the war. The way you said made it seem like he was for the war. FoxNewsish like. Tell half the story and let the people make up their minds on a half truth. Be better than that.
g’night all. play nice.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:33 amdlet, Walt, Zooey, BnF
Goodnight all
You too, Shane
March 10th, 2007 at 12:34 amComment by dlet — March 10, 2007 @ 12:33 am
I stick by the doublethink statement, sorry
March 10th, 2007 at 12:35 amIf it means anything at all, I would have the same reaction if he talked to my father that way as well.
Comment by hacker bob
Men don’t like to be patronized either, Robert.
Listen, I’m not saying you’re wrong to have these feelings. I’m just saying take a breath and step back a moment. The situation may already be under control.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:35 amI stick by the doublethink statement, sorry
Comment by hacker bob
Intractable.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:38 amI stick by the doublethink statement, sorry
Comment by hacker bob
Not talking about him I am talking about your statements.
This time I am really gone….damn internets tubes.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:39 amUmm, sweetheart, I am an active duty Marine.
March 10th, 2007 at 12:40 amHack -
Really, I bet you say that to all the girls.
For a Marine you seem to lack discipline.
So you be the Marine and I’ll be the Republican.
#93 – hacker bob,
March 10th, 2007 at 12:43 amI watched the tape about four times and still see two people totally frustrated. I still believe that Obey lost it but that the mother pushed him over the edge. As I said before, it was 5-10% his fault over the 50% mark, but both were in an emotional struggle.
Shane,
I know for a fact that hacker bob is what he says he is.
Just sayin’
March 10th, 2007 at 12:52 amC – Clumsy
N – Nothing
N – Network
CNN sucks almost as much as Tom DeLay. I watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Also some Scarborough Country and Hardball. At least they try.
It seems that CNN would hire O. J. Simpson if they thought he would increase ratings. Ratings should never come before reporting.
Another hopeless romantic.
March 10th, 2007 at 1:22 amI still say CNN is finished.
March 10th, 2007 at 2:45 amToo late again. Everyone gone bye-bye. We left-coasters are at a disadvantage.
I was gonna say ” if CNN ever needs an expert on how to deregulate the pesticide business so your company can make more profit (so what if people die?)—then they can have Tom DeLay on as an expert. Other than that, what is he an expert on—how to go from legalized bribery to illegal bribery?”
For an excellent article on Iran & Iraq by Noam Chomsky go here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0309-35.htm
It’s from The Guardian (London) because the US media won’t print anything that critical of US foreign policy!!
March 10th, 2007 at 3:45 amComment by WaltTheMan — March 10, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Walt, I appreciate your oppinion on this. The point is just what you said, he was over the line on this one. To his benifit, I read this morning that he did issue an apology.
Dlet and Zooey, here is another point that dlet and I started to explore earlier. What is you reaction anytime someone on the right speaks in such a way to say, Cindy Sheehan?
Shane, anytime you want to match SRBs, let me know.
March 10th, 2007 at 8:34 amThe terrible thing abiut CNN is they pretend to be a counter to FOX when they are, in fact, FOX’s ugly sister wannabe. It is irrelevant whether they add DeLay or not add Delay. CNN will continue to be the purveyors of disinformation and propaganda. Blitzer’s behavior after the Libby verdict is a great indication of what they are all about.
March 10th, 2007 at 9:33 amJeff
Valencia
I know for a fact that hacker bob is what he says he is.
Just sayin’
Comment by Zooey
And again this post was supposed to be about DeLay and CNN. Plenty of other war areas here.
March 10th, 2007 at 10:42 amMaybe Hacker Bob needs to get his own blog.
Shane,
When a thread is about something DeLay is not doing, it goes dead fairly quickly. It’s not the first time something like this has happened, and it won’t be the last. Not a big deal, really.
None of us is really all that far apart in our thinking, even hacker bob. As progressives/liberals, we celebrate our differences, but we also need to learn to get along.
Can’t we just get along? :-)
March 10th, 2007 at 11:26 amTom “The Bugman” Delay must have been sniffing some of his old exterminator chemicals and imagined he was a commentator on CNN.
March 10th, 2007 at 11:57 am.
I guess most people just aren’t that interested in hearing who’s sqealing on who and who is the new bitch on the cell block. CNN Live At The Big House doesn’t have that, je ne c’est crois, that most news shows proudly tout.
March 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pmDlet and Zooey, here is another point that dlet and I started to explore earlier. What is you reaction anytime someone on the right speaks in such a way to say, Cindy Sheehan?
Shane, anytime you want to match SRBs, let me know.
Comment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007
Better question is what’s your reaction to Cindy Sheehan.
And I don’t know what SRBs are.
Oh, and I am a wife of 22 years and a monther of a little girl and you told me to “Eat shit.” So I guess like Rep. Obey you lose your patience sometimes. Just saying, I thought Marines, like my brother inlaw were more disciplined.
March 10th, 2007 at 4:47 pmI know for a fact that hacker bob is what he says he is.
When a thread is about something DeLay is not doing, it goes dead fairly quickly
Comment by Zooey — March 10, 2007 @ 11:26
Zooey – how exactly do you know that hacker bob is a Marine because that piece of info seemed to come out of nowhere.
And he posted her FIRST. So the area went dead before it started. And why was this the place to post about Rep. Obey. How is it related here. If we all basically agree, and I hope we do, then why be so easily distracted from the task at hand.
March 10th, 2007 at 5:00 pmAnd how is spinning the behavior of Rep. Obey so negatively beneficial to Progressives. I’m a woman and a mother and I saw him being more patient than I would have been. And why wasn’t she asking questions of a Republican who is voting entirely for escalation. And who was taking the picture of her speaking to a Democrat. And with all the available scandals where would this meeting rank in importance?
Just saying.
DeLay MUST HAVE SEEN MY BLOG ABOUT SNAPPING HIS GEEK-NECK LIKE A ROTTEN TWIG AND GOTTEN SCARED TO JOIN CNN–OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE INUNDATED HIM WITH MISSIVES FROM MY E-MAILED HAM-FISTS!!!!!
March 10th, 2007 at 6:10 pmBetter question is what’s your reaction to Cindy Sheehan.
Cindy Sheehan has the right to do and say everything she has said and done. I hold nothing against her for it. She paid a very heavy price and deserves to be listened to. She is not the moral authority and her loss is not greater than the loss other parents have had to deal with, but she does deserve respect and to have her voice heard.
And I don’t know what SRBs are.
Service Record Books
Oh, and I am a wife of 22 years and a monther of a little girl and you told me to “Eat shit.†So I guess like Rep. Obey you lose your patience sometimes. Just saying, I thought Marines, like my brother inlaw were more disciplined.
Ok, I am a husband of 17 years and a father of 2 girls and a boy. I erroniously though you were a male. I know, no excuse. But remember who went on the attack with the name calling and such first. If you cone out of the box like that, you beg that kind of reaction. It was more of a “just shut up”. If you were offended, I apologize.
How was it benificial to Progressives to post or “spin” it that way? Let’s see:
1) It shows that the people that you support are failable.
2) It shows the level of respect he has for his constituants.
Comment by Shane — March 10, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
How does Zooey know for a fact I am what I say? Zoo and I have been communicating for a while now. She has seen the proof.
March 10th, 2007 at 7:36 pm2) It shows the level of respect he has for his constituants.
Comment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
No harm and no foul I can take just about anything to get the war ended before they draft my little girl.
But how do we know the lady was his constituent? I didn’t really hear her say that and they didn’t meet in his office but in the hallway.
If a constituent had a meeting with him do you think it would be in the hallway? And since there was a camera there how do you know she wasn’t a Republican plant from some other district determined to stay in his face until he lost his patience. If seemed like a pretty long confrontation to me and it seemed like it took him a long time until he even raised his voice loud enough for us to understand what he was saying.
And lastly, I haven’t posted here that long but there seems to be an ever growing amount of posts off topic and maybe more interpersonal than is expeditious to achieve any governmental reform.
March 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pmIt was more of a “just shut upâ€. If you were offended, I apologize.
Comment by hacker bob — March 10, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
And I’m an old school women’s libber and Viet Nam War hippie and I would be happier if you’d just treat women like you would a man under the same circumstances and I don’t get offended I get even. LOL
Thanks
March 10th, 2007 at 10:17 pmHey Shane,
Robert (hacker bob) needs a woman like you in his TP life, and we appreciate the backup.
Sorry, sometimes we venture off topic, and I know sometimes we drive new people apeshit. Some of us have been posting here since 2005, and have gotten to know each other pretty well, and sometimes we drift.
We’ve been asking TP for open threads on the weekends, but do they listen? No.
Yep, I know hacker bob. We agree on approximately 10-12 things, and I think he’s coming along nicely. :)
March 10th, 2007 at 10:43 pmComment by shane — March 10, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Shane, I am actually pretty fair when it comes to the gender thing. But yes, I do have some of the “old fashion” left in me.
Welcome to TP.
Zooey, I think we are up to baout 15.
March 11th, 2007 at 10:44 amZooey and Hacker Bob
It’s all good.
March 11th, 2007 at 10:49 amHacker_Bob
I saw part of that tape on eithr ABC or CBS this morning.
1. I believe the congressman’s name was different.
2. There was a man off to the right of the woman, cropped out of this version, that was shouting at the congressman some other comments..
Where’d you get the link?
March 11th, 2007 at 10:53 amA buddy of mine sent me the link to the YouTube video. I also saw it later in the evening on the local news.
Do you have a link to what you saw?
March 11th, 2007 at 11:38 amZooey, I think we are up to baout 15.
Comment by hacker bob
My fragile ego won’t permit me to admit that. :)
March 11th, 2007 at 12:04 pmGregory
Hats off to you my good man.
April 5th, 2008 at 12:16 am