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FLASHBACK: Cheney Once Warned Of ‘Quagmire’ From An Open-Ended Commitment In Iraq»

Today in a speech delivered at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Vice President Cheney assailed Iraq war critics for pursuing “an anti-war strategy that’s been called slow bleed.” Cheney added, “They’re not supporting the troops, they are undermining them.” Watch it:

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi attacked Cheney’s remarks, saying, “It is a disservice to our military personnel for President Bush and Vice President Cheney to continue to advocate for an open-ended commitment in Iraq, while brushing aside the advice of military leaders and the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, all of whom argue that the war in Iraq cannot be resolved militarily but only through diplomatic, economic and political means.”

The true “slow bleed” strategy is leaving U.S. troops mired in the middle of an Iraqi civil war. There was a time when Cheney recognized that. On April 7, 1991, appearing on ABC’s This Week, Cheney said:

Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party? Would be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all.

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Transcript:

CHENEY: When members of Congress pursue an anti-war strategy that’s been called slow bleed, they’re not supporting the troops, they are undermining them. And when members of Congress speak not of victory, but of time limits — (applause) — when members speak not of victory but of time limits, deadlines or other arbitrary measures, they’re telling the enemy simply to watch the clock and wait us out.

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115 Responses to “FLASHBACK: Cheney Once Warned Of ‘Quagmire’ From An Open-Ended Commitment In Iraq”


  1. bs Says:

    f.you dick. take that to dubai!


  2. Your Conscience Says:

    Why didn’t Cheney listen to Cheney?

    He was agin it befur he was fer it.

    HISTORICAL COLLOSSAL FAILURE


  3. ForTruth Says:

    Dubai is the New United States of Emirates.


  4. CONservative Says:

    Sorry DICK, after the Walter Reed bit you ‘not supporting the troops’ schtick is a hollow argument. Of course it was a hollow argument anyway to those of us who weren’t duped by this criminal cabal.


  5. CONservative Says:

    Hey DICK…

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  6. Raven Says:

    And so, in the intervening 16 years between asking all of those pertinent questions and the present, Unka Deadeye went to work to find the answers.
    Halliburton helped find a few answers for him, Blackwater USA had a couple as well.
    The cast of characters at his secret energy meeting undoubtedly had some answers too.
    Given the venue at which he spoke today, we know who made the offer he couldn’t refuse.


  7. rachel Says:

    Cheney Once Warned Of ‘Quagmire’ From An Open-Ended Commitment In Iraq

    But that was before Halliburton set foot in Iraq. In other words, he was against it before he was for it.

    P.S. Don’t reply to me, I will just keep on coming around like a dog.
    ForTruth (I mean Bill Frist) says this in his long distance diagnosis of me.

    I repeat, don’t feed the stray dog (me), according to ForTruth.


  8. Chris Says:

    Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do?
    ** I am still waiting for an answer to that, and I spent over a year there.
    Who would we put in power?
    ** Al-Maliki
    What kind of government would we have?
    ** Let’s just say the only thing Iran and the US CAN agree on is how F’d up Iraq is.
    Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government?
    **Primarily Shi’a
    Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?
    **Uh, no.
    Would be fundamentalist Islamic?
    **I think we’ve got a BINGO!
    I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all.
    **I agree.


  9. Hardy Haberman Says:

    Cheney is not supporting the troops, he’s exploiting them. Ask the guys at Halliburton about that. Oh yea, that’s right they left the country. Took the money and ran!


  10. trueblue Says:

    I usually really dislike those figures made out of dashes and backslashes,

    but that one is getting copied and put in it’s own folder for future use!

    Thanks, CONservative.


  11. CONservative Says:

    An excerpt from Cheney’s speech…

    “that rejects tolerance, suppresses dissent, brutalizes women and has one of its foremost objectives the destruction of Israel. Their creed is extreme and backward looking, yet their methods are modern and sophisticated. The terrorists use the Internet to spread propaganda, to find new recruits, and they’re employing every other tool of communication and finance to carry out their plans.
    It’s odd to think of ideologues out of the Dark Ages having a modern
    media strategy, but the fact is they do.”

    Kinda sounds like this administration and their allies in the corporate media, of course we can’t forget the trolls the come on here either.


  12. R Says:

    Hasn’t Dick had his stroke, yet? What’s the hold-up? C’mon- I NEED a good laugh, today.


  13. Zooey Says:

    How many baskets of puppies have had their heads bitten off by this man, just so he can continue to walk in daylight?


  14. CONservative Says:

    I usually really dislike those figures made out of dashes and backslashes,

    but that one is getting copied and put in it’s own folder for future use!

    Thanks, CONservative.

    Comment by trueblue

    You’re welcome, but I can’t take credit for it…was ‘copied and put in it’s own folder for future use!’


  15. Raven Says:

    Hey rachel… say, while you’re still out there, can you get a message to Kenny Boy Lay?
    Dickee’s got some real trouble these days, wants to know how bad it hurts….


  16. Mable Says:

    the next time either one of these S.O.B.s talk about keeping their war going, someone should hoist that “Mission Accomplished” sign behind them.


  17. Marlow Says:

    Isn’t doublethink just the coolest thing?


  18. chimpeach Says:

    As a further sign of just how out of touch the righties are:

    Poll: 69 percent oppose pardon for Libby in CIA leak case

    Suck on that for a while, Fred Barnes, Sean Hannity, Brit Hume, Morton Kondracke, John Gibson, and the rest of you idiots on Fox Noise.


  19. VerbalKint Says:

    Flaco, I too with that Cheney would run for president. Because he could never, ever win.


  20. VerbalKint Says:

    “wish” not “with”


  21. ForTruth Says:

    Now that Halliburden is on the job, its not a quagmire, things are improving all the time, right?


  22. powkat Says:

    I like to picture Cheney as Mr. Sanford - “It’s the big one, Elizabeth; I’m coming.” Then congresss could quickly impeach Bush (who would wander aimlessly without his dark master) Nancy Pelosi would be president, and we could have peace, some kind of universal health care, and begin to earn back the respect of the world.


  23. Jay Says:

    So Cheney was against it before he was for it. Or said another way, he was against it before he found a way to profit from it.


  24. Your Conscience Says:

    Transcript:

    CHENEY: When members of Administration pursue a pro-war strategy that’s been called fast bleed, its not that they’re not supporting the troops, we are just supporting their patriotic death and undermining them. And when members of the Administration focus on victory for the military complex, — (applause) — when the Administration speak of victory fro the military complex we are slick in avoiding deadlines or other objective measures, we’re telling the enemy, I mewan the American people simply to Go F*ck Yourselves.


  25. Badger Says:

    Some of the best arguments I’ve heard against Invading Baghdad were presented by officials of the Bush I administration, following the first Iraq war in 1991. Powell and now Cheney are two examples. I know they were trying to justify not marching on Baghdad to topple Saddam, but all their warnings have turned out to be true. Something happened to make them IGNORE their own advise, and I don’t believe it was just the attack on Sept.11. How could they not believe there own analysis of the situation, which turned out to be right on the mark. ???


  26. Flaco Says:

    What is that odor?
    Smells like a bunch of dirty old hippies in here.


  27. anne Says:

    The April 7, 1991 link is incorrect!


  28. anne Says:

    Osama LOVES the slow bleed of America’s fortune and finest in Iraq.


  29. dlet Says:

    In two years Cheney will be sitting at a beach in Dubai sipping a nice cool glass of crude oil with the sand between his hooves.


  30. Zooey Says:

    What is that odor?
    Smells like a bunch of dirty old hippies in here.
    Comment by Flaco

    It’s the reaction between patchouli and troll….


  31. ForTruth Says:

    Flaco likes the stink, it reminds him of that nice dog he once f*cked.


  32. CONservative Says:

    What is that odor?
    Smells like a bunch of dirty old hippies in here.

    Comment by Flaco

    (sniff…sniff) No, I think that’s the stench of fascism on the part of this crime family that is permeating our great republic.


  33. Zooey Says:

    Flaco likes the stink, it reminds him of that nice dog he once f*cked.
    Comment by ForTruth

    Do you have to out do me every time?

    Heh.


  34. CONservative Says:

    I think that’s the stench of fascism

    Let me correct myself, it’s REPUBLO-fascism!


  35. Flaco Says:

    #136
    My son could knock that chickenshit out of you, if you’d ever leave the outhouse. He could have done it when he was 13.

    Comment by Zooey

    It that the son with the limp wrist or the metrosexual one?

    Comment by Flaco — March 12, 2007 @ 5:13 pm


  36. rachel kinnardi Says:

    What is that odor?

    Comment by Flaco

    Well Flaco, either you farted or you just opened your mouth. Take your pick.


  37. Angry One Says:

    Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney in 1996 on U.S. sanctions against Iran:

    “We seem to be sanction-happy as a government. The problem is that the good Lord didn’t see fit to always put oil and gas resources where there are democratic governments.”


  38. Flaco Says:

    No it is the stench of moonbat droppings and their rancid little hobbits.


  39. ForTruth Says:

    No it is the stench of moonbat droppings and their rancid little hobbits.

    Comment by Flaco

    Wherever its coming from, it obviously isn’t bad enough for you to get away from it.


  40. CONservative Says:

    No it is the stench of moonbat droppings and their rancid little hobbits.

    Comment by Flaco

    Rancid little hobbits eh? So THAT’S what those fools are that come on here extolling the ‘virtues’ of this administration!


  41. Flaco Says:

    Nihilist, Marxist freaks!!!

    Hey TPers

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  42. Zooey Says:

    It that the son with the limp wrist or the metrosexual one?
    Comment by Flaco

    They were both over 6 feet by age 13, so does it really matter, tiny troll?

    Quit lusting after minors, Flaco.


  43. chimpeach Says:

    #26 Flaco

    What is that odor?
    Smells like a bunch of dirty old hippies in here.

    It’s your Depends. They’re not meant to be reuseable, you know.


  44. Flaco Says:

    …………………/´¯/)
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    ……….”…\………. _.•´ This is for Zooey
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  45. CONservative Says:

    Nice Flaco, such a typical response from a Bush suck-up…


  46. ForTruth Says:

    Flaco is horny for Zooey now?

    *eyes rolling*


  47. Sharon Says:

    Lady Z and all, what kind of a screen name is flaco?……Is it flak-o kind of like what happens to a corn flake when liquid is added, all soggy and needing to be thrown out or is it like a snow flake that melt’s and a child watching the melt down will then say Oooh . When I was in H.S a flake was a mental midget…No offence mental or midget’s.. Any one.?…Blessings


  48. ForTruth Says:

    Yep when backed in the corner, just resort to attacks.


  49. Bluedog49 Says:

    Ahem. What exactly is the point of responding to anything an imbecile like Flaco has to offer? Come on, people. This moron has absolutely nothing.


  50. Raven Says:

    Flaco was booted out of art class for copying…


  51. Raven Says:

    Flaco is street slang for flaccid


  52. Innocent Bystander Says:

    Dick was getting ready to take his job as CEO of Halliburton in ‘91. Then he’d start making money doing an end around on the US embargo by trading with Hussein. With Dick, it’s always about how he can profit from the misery he creates.


  53. Zooey Says:

    Thanks Flaco,

    I win all our arguments, don’t I?

    **kisses**


  54. sluggo Says:

    Cheney has a slow-bleed in his cranium which has left him with situational amnesia.

    On the hand, what’s a qaugmire between friends?


  55. Raven Says:

    OK, bluedog, you’re right, I’ll stop now…


  56. Flaco Says:

    U guys forgot to tell me!

    under the bridge nasty troll

    It is soo cute when you do that!!


  57. angryvietnamvet Says:

    Rachel, have you no other means to get attention? Like from REAL people in your immediate physical world, as opposed to mediated internet facilitated hyper-reality of this kind? A warm human body in your proximity may do the trick. Go to your local Starbucks. Talk to strangers at your nearest Mall. Call that suicide line and tell them you died and want to come back from the dead. Just don’t do it here. You are superfluous. And a cheat, liar and bore.


  58. Zooey Says:

    Any one.?…Blessings
    Comment by Sharon

    I’m pretty sure it’s Khazakstani for “limp dick.”


  59. Flaco Says:

    Ahem. What exactly is the point of responding to anything an imbecile like Flaco has to offer? Come on, people. This moron has absolutely nothing.

    Comment by Bluedog49

    that is it bluedig, reign them in those vicious moonbats


  60. Crazy Eddie Says:

    I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all.

    Flaco that odor is hypocrisy.

    Hey Flaco, who said this?

    “Our troops should not be used for Nation Building”

    I bet you get it right the first time.


  61. Flaco Says:

    Ok moonbats go back to you dickussions of world events.
    U guys r too bright for flaco.


  62. nanlichi Says:

    flaco is a skinny meth addict.

    His last name is chupalaverga.


  63. Bluedog49 Says:

    “I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”
      
    -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

    Situational ethics is one of the hallmarks of corporatist thinking.


  64. Crazy Eddie Says:

    Moonbats
    Comment by Flaco

    Why thanks Flaco!

    Genesis 1:16

    16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.


  65. Shane Says:

    the next time either one of these S.O.B.s talk about keeping their war going, someone should hoist that “Mission Accomplished” sign behind them.

    Comment by Mable — March 12, 2007 @ 5:38 pm

    Mable - and I hope when you say behind them you mean BEHIND THEM (wink, wink).


  66. Shane Says:

    Flaco, I too with that Cheney would run for president. Because he could never, ever win.

    Comment by VerbalKint — March 12, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

    And was there ever a bastard more deserving of “Swift Boating?”


  67. Crazy Eddie Says:

    Ok moonbats go back to you dickussions of world events.
    U guys r too bright for flaco. Comment by Flaco

    Funny that you talk about your lack of light.


  68. Juan C Says:

    His last name is chupalaverga.
    Comment by nanlichi

    I just made everybody in sight turn to see me laughing so hard.


  69. Shane Says:

    Isn’t that the trolls who pull their heads out of their asses for only brief periods of time?


  70. Zooey Says:

    U guys r too bright for flaco.
    Comment by Flaco

    No! Don’t go, Flaco!

    We can get the TP fluffer to take care of your…um, little problem.


  71. JPV Says:

    Flip flopping away, flip flopping away
    You know the nearer your destination, the more you flip flopping away


  72. Tobey Tall Says:

    Why is there not a American Muslims Public Affairs Committee ?????????


  73. Crazy Eddie Says:

    His last name is chupalaverga.
    Comment by nanlichi

    Heh. Chupa. heh


  74. Shane Says:

    It that the son with the limp wrist or the metrosexual one?

    Comment by Flaco — March 12, 2007 @ 5:13 pm

    We LIKE people who fit both those descriptions. It’s dickheads like you we have trouble stomaching.

    But you little troll are boring us - if we want to listen to anything that inane, we’ll watch one of Bushies speeches.


  75. ForTruth Says:

    Juan I know what chupalaverga means. I try to get that all the time.


  76. Shane Says:

    Quit lusting after minors, Flaco.

    Comment by Zooey — March 12, 2007 @ 6:05 pm

    Zooey - Flaco couldn’t get lucky in a male prison with a fist full of $100s. And that dog referenced earlier pissed all over him. That’s the stink.


  77. BadBrains Says:

    FLACACA, Why are you still here?! Take your fascistic stink and go lick Dick.


  78. Shane Says:

    Lady Z and all, what kind of a screen name is flaco?……Is it flak-o kind of like what happens to a corn flake when liquid is added, all soggy and needing to be thrown out or is it like a snow flake that melt’s and a child watching the melt down will then say Oooh . When I was in H.S a flake was a mental midget…No offence mental or midget’s.. Any one.?…Blessings

    Comment by Sharon — March 12, 2007 @ 6:13 pm

    Great question Sharon - it’s Latin - present tense perfect for FLACID which is how we know the dog got away okay.


  79. Zooey Says:

    Zooey - Flaco couldn’t get lucky in a male prison with a fist full of $100s. And that dog referenced earlier pissed all over him. That’s the stink.
    Comment by Shane

    Truly gifted…. :-D


  80. big papa Says:

    The MSM and Democrats could easily neuter L’il Dick…

    …if they did what Max Cleland did on the Situation Room…

    …Wolf asked Max what he would say to L’il Dick if he had a sit down with him…

    …Cleland said he’d ask, “Where the hell were you during Vietnam? If you had gone there you might have learned some lessons about war”…

    …Why aren’t Democrats pulling off the gloves of civility…

    …and telling the DUHmerikkkan people that it’s Dick Cheney…

    …and his Halliburton team…

    …who are the ENEMY…

    …Bushiva, L’il Dick and all of the heads of Halliburton should have their assets FROZEN…

    …NOW!


  81. Zooey Says:

    …which is how we know the dog got away okay.
    Comment by Shane

    Thank goodness the doggie is safe.

    **still laughing like crazy**


  82. Bluedog49 Says:

    Papa: “…Why aren’t Democrats pulling off the gloves of civility…”

    Probably because most of them are civil.


  83. Flaco Says:

    Hey Crazy Eddie, who said this?

    Mr copy and paste google monkey.

    “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
    - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” S
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

    “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    “We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
    - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force– if necessary– to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” Rep.
    - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
    - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    “We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …”
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

    SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???


  84. Shane Says:

    Flaco’s gone but it was fun while it lasted and rather cathartic too.


  85. Paul Miller Says:

    it’s time for Uncle Fester to retire - enough of his wacked out war mongering


  86. Flaco Says:

    Papa: “…Why aren’t Democrats pulling off the gloves of civility…”

    Hey is why asshats!!!


  87. Zooey Says:

    Flaco! Thank goodness you’re back.

    The TP fluffer will help you now….he/she’s got good eyesight.


  88. ForTruth Says:

    Flaco I don’t care what dipshit John Kerry said, or any other Demknobs. I knew it was all bullshit on my own. I don’t listen to those doorknobs very much either. And in the end, the Dems are no different than Repubs. They just act like they are different.


  89. Crazy Eddie Says:

    SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???
    Comment by Flaco

    Hey Crazy Eddie, who said this?

    Not me. Heh.


  90. big papa Says:

    Arrest L’il Dick…

    …before he escapes…


  91. tom baker Says:

    oh no, not Flake-O.

    haven’t they come to lock you up for the kiddie porn yet Flake-O?

    no prob - I’ll ring the sherriff’s dept., and they’ll get it handled


  92. Sharon Says:

    Very funny Lady Z and Raven….Yep! I heard that on CNN as well Big Papa, and yes I wish every day the Dem’s would stop playing nice……Blessings


  93. Uncle Ho Says:

    Hey CONservative @6; snicker.


  94. Crazy Eddie Says:

    Flaco that stuff was destroyed in the first Gulf War.

    Besides who sold that stuff to Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war?

    Why didn’t Bush Sr go into Baghdad?

    Can you say quagmire? Dick can.


  95. Gerald Gibson Jr Says:

    Comment by Flaco

    Your list is taken out of context.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

    Origins: All
    of the quotes listed above are substantially correct reproductions of statements made by various Democratic leaders regarding Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein’s acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction. However, some of the quotes are truncated, and context is provided for none of them — several of these quotes were offered in the course of statements that clearly indicated the speaker was decidedly against unilateral military intervention in Iraq by the U.S. Moreover, several of the quotes offered antedate the four nights of airstrikes unleashed against Iraq by U.S. and British forces during Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, after which Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen and Gen. Henry H. Shelton (chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) announced the action had been successful in “degrad[ing] Saddam Hussein’s ability to deliver chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.”

    For example:

    “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Here’s why I say that. We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological weapons and chemical weapons throughout his country. As yet, we have no evidence, however, that he has shared any of these weapons with terrorist groups. If the administration has evidence that he has, please present it, because that would change the way we all look at this thing.


  96. Gerald Gibson Jr Says:

    Flaco == Fakeo…


  97. Uncle Ho Says:

    Flaco = michael?

    Flaco’s fluffer is that gay male porn star recently honored at CPAC.

    Flaco/michael; your circle jerk party called, they need their pivot man back.


  98. nanlichi Says:

    GG Jr,

    Snopes to the Repugnicunts is like water to a witch, like Kryptonite to Superman, like silver to Cheney… they shrivel up and blow away when confronted with facts.

    How can you have an intelligent conversation unless you start with the same basic set of facts? Reasonable people can come to different conclusions, I can buy that, but these Bushie zealots refuse to face facts.

    In their world, Iraq had WMD’s, we have found those WMD’s (or they were all spirited away before Hans could find them), Sadam was behind 9/11, and Boy George did everything he could to avoid putting our soldiers in harms way.

    And fossils over 6,000 years old were put here to test your faith in God.

    You can’t convince them otherwise. We may as well stop trying and just run the bastards over.


  99. rachel Says:

    ForTruth,

    I need to ask you a few questions in the TF.
    Please find time. It’s important.


  100. rachel Says:

    Maybe some other time then ForTruth.


  101. Arne Langsetmo Says:

    That is a 30 second commercial that blows the “Daisy” one away. No commentary needed. Although you could start a slow scroll of the war dead, and just keep speeding it up until the end of the 30 seconds when the last names (at that time) go whizzing by…..

    MoveOn? You with me?

    Cheers,


  102. Badger Says:

    HANS BLIX was just quoted in the news today. He Claims if he had just a couple more months to inspect…he would have settled the question of whether Saddam had WMD. He claims that the Bush Administration substituted CERTAINTY for Possibilty in its analysis of WMD. I’ll buy the fact that no one really knew whether he had them, except perhaps Scott Ritter, but THIS was a RUSH TO WAR!!!
    With TRAGIC results , the full extent of the Damage to America won’t be know for YEARS.


  103. anonymous Says:

    tom englehardt of the nation magazine is right- this IS blackmail. they are using the soldiers thru their media mouthpiece to blackmail the american people. congress must stop the funding NOW!


  104. Mr. Evil Says:

    Foolish
    Loser
    Always
    Kneeling
    Over


  105. The Daily Background » Blog Archive » Monday Quote Dump (doozy edition) Says:

    […] Dick Cheney, 4/7/91.   Subscribe to our rss feed   Email this     Print this  digg_url […]


  106. kdoug Says:

    During an address to the 2007 policy conference held in Washington DC, Vice President Dick Cheney said that Congressional members who are questioning Halliburton’s plan move their headquarters to Dubai aren’t “supporting the troops; they are undermining them.”

    “Where else can our troops get contaminated water?” said Cheney, the former head of the corporation. “What other company is willing to charge the taxpayers for meals they don’t serve, or ten dollars for a diet Coke?” “… and find another corporation so willing to work for ‘no bid contracts’.”

    “To criticize this nobel, selfless, corporation merely because they want to move their headquarters closer to ‘the action’ and gain a better tax advantage simply don’t understand the real purpose of the ‘war on terror.’ Those obstructionist in Congress, who question this move have not learned the real lessons on 9/11.”


  107. ballbuster Says:

    oh, I just have to share this with y’all.

    GEORGE SOROS BUYS 2 MILLION SHARES OF HALLIBURTON.

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/3776

    worth about $62 million.

    Isn’t THAT funny?


  108. rachel Says:

    Why the election in 2000 and 2004 was lost. Quite simply the Democratic ticket didn’t get the full support it

    needed because the “fringe groups” Nader, Greens, Kucinich et al, their “outsourced vote” was enough to tip

    the balance both times and now we are stuck with this Iraq mess and a mess at home too.

    You “fringe” supporters had best buck up and decide if you want a Republican or a BONAFIDE “SUREFIRE”

    WINNER IN A DEMOCRAT next time in 2008.

    “En Masse Unity” is what will be required in 2008 to bring this whole house of cards down forever.

    In other words, stop “stealing” the election FOR THEM!

    Vote Democrat


  109. rachel rj kinnardi Says:

    105.

    Ball Sucker,

    Mr Soros has zero control over what one or many investment firms does with his money, and there is alot of it to be sure.

    But to be realistic, stop making Soro’s out to be the one who is to be percieved as “evil” and who personally invested it HIMSELF!

    Making him a war profiteer.

    It just isn’t so.

    Your strawman sucks.

    Isn’t their a “Troll-School” somewhere where you could attend?


  110. DM Says:

    “I was against throwing our economy, our youth, and our world standing down a bottomless well before I was in favor of it.”

    “And then I quit and retired to Dubai.”


  111. Dr. Matt Says:

    Dick was against the Quagmire before he was for the Quagmire.


  112. The Purple State » Says:

    […] and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all. -Dick Cheney (yes, that Dick Cheney) back in […]


  113. Dawn Says:

    Ever really wonder why Bush and Cheney have been compared to Hitler?
    Never has there been such a failure in the goverment and NEVER has one man been more hated than Hitler. I’m sorry, did I say one man?Opps, my bad.They do not just compare to the other man,This intire goverment body has acted in the same manor as the Hitler regime! That body was brought down and this one can be brought down too. We deserve to have our country back. TAKE IT
    America has had it’s call to stop the New World Order.
    Start the safe houses for the whistleblowers of 911.


  114. Cheney's War « UOW Introduction to Journalism Says:

    […] Published March 13th, 2007 US politics , Iraq VP Cheney has made another blistering speech attacking the war’s critics. Cheney knows what emotional punches to pull and of course the […]



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