ThinkFast: March 12, 2007
ThinkFast: March 12, 2007
The Pentagon has “begun plotting a fallback strategy for Iraq that includes a gradual withdrawal of forces and a renewed emphasis on training Iraqi fighters” in case the President’s escalation fails. The new strategy is more in line with the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group and is “based in part on the U.S. experience in El Salvador in the 1980s.”
Salon reports that the military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.”
Tourism to the United States has dropped by 17 percent since 2001. “Two-thirds of respondents worried they could be held back at airports because of a mistake in form filling or a misstatement to immigration officials. Half said officials were rude and that they feared them more than the threat of terrorism or crime.”
Some within the White House are calling on President Bush to uphold his pledge to “have the highest of high standards” when it comes to granting pardons. “What you saw was a vice president’s office that was out of control,” a former White House staffer tells Newsweek, arguing against pardoning Scooter Libby.
“A new federal rule intended to keep illegal immigrants from receiving Medicaid has instead shut out tens of thousands of United States citizens who have had difficulty complying with requirements to show birth certificates and other documents proving their citizenship.”
Kroger’s grocery store chair released a statement pledging never to refuse a customer access to the over-the-counter emergency contraceptive Plan B.
The Army expects to have an “annual shortage of 3,000 [midlevel] officers through 2013 as it increases its ranks by 40,000 soldiers.” The Government Accountability Office notes that “officer retention has been a problem for the Army, in part because it “continues to remain heavily involved in combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.’”
Former U.S. attorney John McKay tells Newsweek that after he was fired in December, he received a call from the Justice Department asking if he intended to go public: “He was offering me a deal: you stay silent and the attorney general won’t say anything bad about you.”
1 in 5: Number of federal agencies that posts on its Web site all the records required for Freedom of Information Act requests. Just 6 percent “tell people how to request what does not appear there.”
And finally: They don’t have habeas, but they do have hibiscus. “A select group of detainees at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have been allowed to plant gardens for the first time, a military spokesman said. Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the ‘most compliant’ detainees, started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled planters.”
What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.
Salon reports that the military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.”
Well if they can’t wear their body armor and they get killed, the gov’t won’t have to fork out so much for places like Walter Reed or VA benefits now will they?
The way they think is so obvious. I don’t see how the rest of the country doesn’t have utter and complete disgust at our administration. I really don’t get how people can be so blind.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:14 amOnce the army is destroyed, look for martial law here at home. Of course Blackwater will step up to the plate to provide for our protection.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:19 amWell Repugs…does that Salon article make you feel emboldened to support our troops by getting them the hell out of Iraq? If so, let you representatives know. Or are those ribbon magnets just more lip service and empty patriotism?
March 12th, 2007 at 9:22 amSalon reports that the military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.â€
Again, I really hope that servicemen and women are reexamining their loyalties, in light of clear evidence that those loyalties are misplaced.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:24 amAnd finally: They don’t have habeas, but they do have hibiscus. “A select group of detainees at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have been allowed to plant gardens for the first time, a military spokesman said. Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the ‘most compliant’ detainees, started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled planters.â€
With all we have and all we take for granted, could you imagine watching the growth of a tomato plant in a concrete container? Whether or not that tomato plant flourishes. It could possibly be the brightest and most important aspect of their lives. Can you imagine that?
March 12th, 2007 at 9:26 amWow…I leave for one weekend an all aitch-eee-double-hockey sticks breaks loose.
Apparently, having been driven to grief by my outing her as a plagiarist, rachel decides to off herself. We even get confirmation of this the next day, thanks to “Lori Higginbotham”, who appears to be a first-time poster to this site. However, it is soon revealed that this “confirmation” is a scam, as skillfully revealed by WaltTheMan, and Briseadh na Faire (thanks, guys).
(BTW, I had links for all the above referenced posts , but apparently TP doesn’t like that many links in a post, so sorry…)
When I first read rachel’s suicide note late Sunday night, I had at first resolved to not comment at all, as I didn’t care to give her the validation she so desperately craves…even though I seemed to be singled out by name as the primary cause of her despair. Having read through the entire sordid mess, however, I feel compelled to add my two cents.
Due to the particular circumstances in my life, I have had to deal with depression and suicide several times. I won’t bore you with the details, save to mention that at the moment, both my best friend and my wife are clinically depressed, and are on medication.
I only mention this so you can understand the new level of contempt I have for rachel. A fake suicide is the basest form of manipulation…truly a terrorist act. Check out ForTruth’s various posts on the subject…he states it more eloquently than I.
rachel, you are truly a despicable creature. I hadn’t realize just how reprehensible you were until you pulled this latest stunt. If you think I was hard on you before, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
I’m sure we’ll no longer see ‘rachel’ here (at least by name), but I’m equally sure we’ll continue to see her pulling her usual BS of posting under different aliases and hijacking the names of legitimate posters. That’s fine, rachel. We can all recognize your style by now, so we’ll be quite aware when you try your tricks. (Of course, you could try to tone down the invective enough to actually pass as who you’re attempting to mimic, but that will defeat your purpose…and I suspect you’re not intelligent enough to pull it off anyway.)
rachel, you had almost managed to dupe some of the people on this site. I’m overjoyed that you couldn’t keep from showing your true colors. Thanks…you really do make it too easy.
One more thing…it doesn’t matter what alias you post under…if you continue to plagiarize, I’ll continue to call you on it. I’ll leave you with this: I know this post, allegedly by ‘troll alert’, is really you. Wanna know how I know? Because the content of the post is the lyrics to Pink Floyd’s Goodbye Cruel World, posted without proper credit.
Sheesh…even from the dead, you can’t be original. ^_^
March 12th, 2007 at 9:27 am#4 Tripmaster Monkey
The Army expects to have an “annual shortage of 3,000 [midlevel] officers through 2013 as it increases its ranks by 40,000 soldiers.†The Government Accountability Office notes that “officer retention has been a problem for the Army, in part because it “continues to remain heavily involved in combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.’â€
Looks like some are. :)
March 12th, 2007 at 9:29 amTourism to the United States has dropped by 17 percent since 2001…
And support for the U.S. globally has dropped by 90%.
Heckuva job, Bushit. You had the entire world in your hand 9-12-01.
You viewed that support as ‘Political Capital’. You were wrong.
Putting corporate interests above Patriotism is high treason.
I know, I know, you’ve got ‘Speedy Gonzales’ to protect you & your cabal from outside objectivity, but it’s all catching up with you, isn’t it?
The only good thing I can see about your administration is the fact you’re totally f*cking up any chance for the GOP in ‘08.
Heckuva job, Bushit. Heckuva job.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:32 amthe military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems…”
Last we heard, we were sending troops without equipment. Now, we’re sending troops too injured to carry the equipment they don’t have. It makes sense, in a perverted sort of way. You know an army is on its last legs when the wounded have to guard the forts.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:34 amSome within the White House are calling on President Bush to uphold his pledge to “have the highest of high standards†when it comes to granting pardons. “What you saw was a vice president’s office that was out of control,†a former White House staffer tells Newsweek, arguing against pardoning Scooter Libby.
I’ve said this multiple times on different sites in the past, and now I find myself saying it again: Why does the President still have this ridiculous unitary power to issue get-out-of-jail-free cards in the first place?
I’ll grant that the pardon power might have been useful in the past, to redress oversights in the judicial system, but surely, such a use is long past. When’s the last time a pardon was used in such a manner?
Nowadays, the pardon power seems to be used soley to excuse political cohorts. It was used thus by Bush I and by Clinton, and now it looks like it’s Chimpy’s turn to issue the get-out-of-jail-free card for Libby (for starters).
Can anyone help me on this? Why hasn’t the pardon power been revoked, or attenuated at the very least, by Congress?
March 12th, 2007 at 9:40 amKroger’s grocery store chair released a statement pledging never to refuse a customer access to the over-the-counter emergency contraceptive Plan B.
A sad world in which a pharmacist has to declare that it will always dispense legal medication whenever a customer wants to buy it.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:40 amIn other news:
This, from the same President who’s legalized torture, abandoned the Geneva Conventions and caused the deaths of 655,000 innocent people.
This, from a Commander-in-Chief who sends disabled Americans back into a war zone without adequate armor nor equipment.
This, from a man who cut his vacation short just so he could keep a brain-dead on life support for political reasons.
This, from a President who’s only veto was against stem-cell research. It was somehow preferable that fertilized eggs be discarded than to use them to improve the human condition.
I could go on….
March 12th, 2007 at 9:43 amTourism to the United States has dropped by 17 percent since 2001.
They want to blame the decline of tourism to the US due to the fear of filling out forms and customs agents. Try that the world thinks of the US as a twisted place where the people here voted to place Bush in the White House twice. Who would want to spend their hard earned money and vacation time in a place like that. I wonder how Germany’s tourism was doing in the years of the rising Nazi Party.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:46 amThe only good thing I can see about your administration is the fact you’re totally f*cking up any chance for the GOP in ‘08.
Comment by Zimzone — March 12, 2007 @ 9:32 am
Think about it. The U.S. Attorneys who were purged were the ones investigating Republicans and/or refusing to pursue fruitless investigations against Democrats. They have been replaced with political favorites. There are plans already in the works to guarantee that the Republican Party is the only one left standing in 2008.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:46 amTourism to the United States has dropped by 17 percent since 2001. “Two-thirds of respondents worried they could be held back at airports because of a mistake in form filling or a misstatement to immigration officials. Half said officials were rude and that they feared them more than the threat of terrorism or crime.â€
It sounds like the immigration officials are a bunch of liberals—they pose a greater threat to this country than terrorism.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:47 am20wordsorless sez:
Do you even read what you type?
March 12th, 2007 at 9:49 amWow 20IQpointsorless, way to crap on those people who are protecting us. Have anything bad to say about the troops? Would you like to call them liberal whiners because they don’t want to go back into battle injured and without armor?
March 12th, 2007 at 9:51 am#11
March 12th, 2007 at 9:53 amYes, my husband is a pharmacist and I am a undergrad student hoping to become one as well. We have had this discussion ourselves. When does the pharmacist stop being a pharmacist and get to dictate personal views on the people they are serving. THEY DON’T! Pharmacists have to take an oath much the same as a physician. They are at work and serving the public. How many of you get to use your job as your personal soapbox?
Deployed without body armor.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:54 amWhy does twoscoreofnothingtosay not come out and bash this administration for its shameful treatment of our soldiers???
You missed this one from the Scotsman:
ABOUT 150 protesters attacked riot police with rocks and metal barriers and ripped down lampposts in Colombia’s capital Bogota as United States President George Bush paid a six-hour visit to the close American ally.
The highest-security stop on Mr Bush’s five-nation tour, last night’s visit to Colombia was also the shortest stopover on the trip.
The protesters object to the £350 million annually received by Colombia in mostly military US aid, blaming the assistance for fuelling the country’s decades-old civil conflict and encouraging human rights abuses by their country’s armed forces.
Then as Mr Bush arrived in Guatemala last night, more than 100 Mayan Indians protested in the city of Tecpan, holding signs that read: “No more blood for oil.”
The group is angry that Mr Bush will be visiting the sacred Iximche archaeological site. After he leaves, Mayan priests plan a spiritual cleansing to get rid of the “evil spirits” they believe Mr Bush will bring.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:56 amThis article: http://news.scotsman.com/ international.cfm?id=390312007
Due to the particular circumstances in my life, I have had to deal with depression and suicide several times. I won’t bore you with the details, save to mention that at the moment, both my best friend and my wife are clinically depressed, and are on medication.
rachel, you are truly a despicable creature.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 12, 2007 @ 9:27 am
Would you call your best friend and/or your wife the same as you called rachel?
Were you called the same when you were battling suicidal depression?
Why is it you and others seem to go out of your way to attack someone who apparently has some mental health issues?
March 12th, 2007 at 9:58 amThink Fast, You Missed One;
http://www.hotsheet.com/
http://rss.cnn.com/ ~r/ rss/ cnn_topstories/ ~3/ 101066252/ index.html
Bush pushes U.S.
in Guatemala
March 12th, 2007 at 9:59 amBush understands NOTHING about
March 12th, 2007 at 10:00 amAfter he leaves, Mayan priests plan a spiritual cleansing to get rid of the “evil spirits†they believe Mr Bush will bring.
Perhaps we can get them to dispell the “dark cloud” over DC when he leaves?
March 12th, 2007 at 10:01 am#14, BnF,
You may be right, but with a Dem majority, they’ll have to be sneakier than they have to date.
In fact, Walter Reed & the US Attorney fiasco are remarkable only in the context of how quickly Congress has reacted to ‘realtime’ news.
Let’s hope this trend continues for the remainder of the lame duck’s term.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:01 am#21. I think he is questioning the veracity of her mental state, claiming she doesn’t have mental health issues…
However, I would argue that anybody who would feign suicidality without second thought does indeed have mental health issues…just not of the same kind.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:05 am#22 BnF
Do they sell Lysol and Holy water by the tanker?
March 12th, 2007 at 10:07 amMayan priests know their evil spirits.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:10 amBriseadh na Faire sez:
My wife and best friend are clinically depressed. They aren’t pretending to be so for malicious reasons.
I discussed this issue with my wife Sunday night, and showed her rachel’s ’suicide note’. She immediately said that this was not the writing of a truly suicidal personality, but the writing of one who is merely demanding attention.
Now I understand that although my wife has a unique insight into depressive and suicidal behaviour, she is not an expert. However, ForTruth would appear to agree with this diagnosis.
BnF, there are acceptable ways to ask for attention. Psychological blackmail is not one of them. While I realize that rachel may have issues of her own, she’s free to seek help whenever she wants. Many posters here have begged her to seek such help. If she chooses not to, and instead continues her childish games of manipulation, I have no obligation to feel sorry for her.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:11 amGIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle
I have never seen a case of this happening. Nor have I ever seen a case of someone deploying to a combat zone without body armor, or a weapon.
Can somone please produce these people that are deployed when not medically qualified or that have been deployed without body armor?
Please…
I keep hearing it but I have never seen it.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:13 amFurthermore, BnF:
While rachel’s psychological terrorism was felt by everyone here, it was specifically directed at me, by name. I don’t think it’s going ‘out of my way’ to respond.
BnF, while your compassion is indeed virtuous and laudable, I have to say that in this case, it’s misplaced. You won’t do rachel any favors by validating her behavior by showing compassion at this stage…all you’re doing is enabling her.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:17 amhacker bob sez:
I’ve never seen the dark side of the moon firsthand, but I’m reasonably certain it exists.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:18 amMaybe I’m just a not-so-sensitive guy, but RK’s imminent demise didn’t bother me at all, as it was a fairly transparent attention request.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:19 amMy four year old does it all the time. (Attention requests, not bogus suicide notes.)
That’s all I’m ever going to say about attention starved Rachel, except that I remember a high school mate of mine, the youngest of 13 kids, who behaved like that.
VB-Bob ~ How long has it been since you were over there?
March 12th, 2007 at 10:20 amComment by TripMaster Monkey — March 12, 2007 @ 10:18 am
I have been to Iraq twice. Everyone I saw had a weapon and body armor. I want to see and actual account of someone that didn’t. If one can not be provided, then one does not exist, right?
As for the injuries, I am not a M.D. I can not evaluate someones medical conditions. But I have never seen someone that was deployed that could not meet the physical requirements of their job.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:23 amAre you questioning the troops hacker bob? You must really hate them. You could always sign up an go to Iraq if you wanted to see it first hand….that’s not too much to ask for a firsthand account of what you are questioning. You could also probably visit Walter Reed or even buy a plane ticket and go meet Master Sgt. Ronald Jenkins in Columbus, GA. You’ll never see it if you walk around with your eyes purposely closed to protect your ideology. Denial is a hell of a thing.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:25 amBob ~ Did you read the article on Salon? Are those troops lying?
March 12th, 2007 at 10:25 amTourism is not the only thing being affected. Many companies, mine and my wife’s included, have greatly reduced the number people they send to, and have completely eliminated conferences and conventions in the U.S.
I haven’t visited in over 3 years now, mainly because I refuse to deal with the nightmare of getting in and out, but unfortunately I have to visit this summer. I am not looking foward to the migrane and the heat exhaustion.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:26 amVB-Bob ~ How long has it been since you were over there?
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Oct. 05
And I currently work in a Command that depolys people to the “Theater”. I see the pre-deployment screenings and coordonate the briefs from medical officers, unit commanders both here and there. In that, I also see the large number of “last minute replacements” that are sent because somone is not medically qualified.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:26 amhacker bob sez:
Did you read the Salon article?
If you did, who are you accusing of lying here? Mark Benjamin, or Ronald Jenkins? Just want to be clear before we proceed…
March 12th, 2007 at 10:27 amSalon reports that the military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.â€
Well, they signed the contract…
Hey, I’m just sayin’ what the trolls are thinkin’. Hyuk-hyuk-hyuk.
Seriously, though, does this remind anyone else of the end days of World War II in Europe when Hitler was putting geriatric patients and kids in uniform and sending them out to take a last stand against the Allies. What the hell has happened to this country?
March 12th, 2007 at 10:29 amGeez bob…for being in your position one would think that you would have the MOST compassion for the troops. Perhaps it is your lack of compassion that has allowed you to stay in your position.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:29 am#16 TripMaster Monkey
20wordsorless sez:
It sounds like the immigration officials are a bunch of liberals—they pose a greater threat to this country than terrorism.
Do you even read what you type?
I don’t think he even reads what he reads. Well, beyond the first three words, anyway.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:32 amComment by Lupeyg2 — March 12, 2007 @ 10:25 am
I am signed up and have been twice. I speak from first hand experiance.
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 10:25 am
Yes, I read the article. Are those troops qualified to make a medical assessment? And do you realize that there are jobs they can fill over there that will not require them to be in constant armor? I am not saying that they are lying; they may truly be in pain. But pain is subjective. I am talking about quantifiable medical diagnosis.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:32 amComment by Lupeyg2 — March 12, 2007 @ 10:29 am
All I am saying is that I have never seen it. Does it exist? Maybe, so. Provide proof.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:33 ambob
From Salon (did you read it?):
“Master Sgt. Ronald Jenkins, who has been ordered to Iraq even though he has a spine problem that doctors say would be damaged further by heavy Army protective gear.”
“a unit of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Benning, Ga., is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.”
I don’t have access to their medical files, nor would it be right for me to illegally obtain them, but I’m willing to take these soldiers for their word. They’re on their 3rd tour…it’s not as if they haven’t been willing to fight before.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:40 amhacker bob sez:
Well, here’s just one example, from the article you claim to have read:
Quantifiable enough for you? Injuries like these don’t spontaneously clear up within a period of 6 months.
Again, from the article:
Yes, I know it’s just one guy’s opinion, but so’s yours.
Speaking of which?
Can you prove this? After all, I haven’t seen you over there…
(Yes, I’m aware of how absurd my last statement was. Hopefully, you’ll also realize the absurdity of your claim that since you’ve never personally witnessed an injured soldier redeployed, it’s never happened, despite the available evidence to the contrary.)
March 12th, 2007 at 10:43 amSalon reports that the military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.â€
This wouldn’t be happening if Clenis hadn’t got that blowjob
March 12th, 2007 at 10:44 amSeriously, though, does this remind anyone else of the end days of World War II in Europe when Hitler was putting geriatric patients and kids in uniform and sending them out to take a last stand against the Allies. What the hell has happened to this country?
Comment by chimpeach — March 12, 2007
The Triumph of Bushism.
-GSD
Bush, Cheney, Rove and Gonzales are getting the bunker ready. The people of America are letting Bush down and the soldiers are letting him down by getting injured.
This is how democracy crumbles…..
March 12th, 2007 at 10:46 amNow they come up with plan b.
Fours years late and quater of a billion dollars shy!
March 12th, 2007 at 10:54 amComment by TripMaster Monkey — March 12, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Look at my facebook photos, you will see pics of me over there. If you like I can also post a copy of my awards page (from electronic SRB).
But I understand what you are saying.
The best bet is for those that do not think they are medically qualified to go get an independant, outside of the gates, medical exam. Then they will have medical documentation and can go through what we in the Marine Corps call a “Request Mast” (Navy: Captains Mast, not sure Army term).
Bottom line, they have resources to fight their case if it is true.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:00 amBut pain is subjective.
Comment by hacker bob
I remember a chinese tale about a general that endured a medical procedure, some surgery in his arm while playing chess. He never uttered a word, because he was focused in the chess board. I dont think iraqi children, women or poor kids in the US forces can do the same. So, no, pain is not subjective.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:03 amhacker bob — I served 21 1/2 years in u.s. Army.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:06 amI see alot of Soldiers(Injured or not) without their Bodyarmor, ie case in point,(cooks,mechs,working class, admins,) even they walked around without gear,in 1st gulfwar, I know because i was one of them.
any questions for this Retiree?
care to see my DD214?
funny how hacker bob is so insistent the he insists to
“see the proof” when it comes to claims FROM OUR TROOPS (like the one who questioned Rumsfeld and evoked the “you go to war with the army you have….. ” comment,,,must have been a liberal plant.)
ever seen the websites of people holding bake sales/etc trying to raise money to buy thier kids body armor because the military doesnt have it?
bob are you going to demand to “see the evidence” with such insistencey when it comes to calims your hero dumbya makes? Like you about, about WMD,, whos linked to what terrorist, etc.
And are you saying that numerous generals arent saying the military is overstretched?
March 12th, 2007 at 11:07 amComment by TripMaster Monkey — March 12, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Did I say it never happened? No. I said that I had never seen it.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:09 amI said that I had never seen it.
Comment by hacker bob
Like a proof of WMDs in Iraq, bob.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:12 amhacker bob sez:
…and how do I know that’s really you? Hmm?
Do you? It doesn’t seem so, if you’re still trying to flash your bona fides (and on facebook, no less…).
What I’m saying is, if you continue to dismiss these soldiers’ claims on the the grounds that they are apocryphal, don’t expect us to blindly accept your even more apocryphal claims.
Did you even read my previous post, In it, I quoted a passage from the article that stated that a service member’s profile was changed to erase injuries that don’t heal in years, let alone months. This alone should be enough to raise red flags. Why do you continue to insist on placing the most onus possible on the soldiers?
March 12th, 2007 at 11:13 amComment by vAliant penus — March 12, 2007 @ 11:07 am
Those bake sales were for things like “Second Chance” vests. You know, the kind of stuff that cops wear. Not standard body armor.
Is the Military stretched thinner than a frog’s hair split four ways? Yes it is, I do not dispute that.
And yes, I would like to be able to see the evidence that Bush had, or has in the future. But my clearance only goes so far. So I do not have that luxury.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:16 amhacker bob sez:
Direct quote from you from less than an hour ago, bob:
March 12th, 2007 at 11:16 amBottom line, they have resources to fight their case if it is true.
Comment by hacker bob
So you don’t trust the armed services to do a good and upstanding job. You think that everyone with a medical case should go outside the fence and get private examinations because the medical professionals in the armed services are not to be trusted.
Thanks for clearing that up. I agree with you and its sad. And if they get a private examine does that guarantee that those results would be held over the results they get from the armed services medical professionals? Do you have any evidence of that happening because as you like to say I don’t believe it until you prove it.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:20 amTourism to the United States has dropped by 17 percent since 2001
Listen Nobody wants to go to America and are Boycotting your goods
1/ because of your Foreign Policy …..
WE DONT SUPPORT AMERICAN TERRORISM WORLDWIDE
Your all in a cess pit created by George Bush
March 12th, 2007 at 11:23 amAnd finally: They don’t have habeas, but they do have hibiscus.
Absolutely Pathetic Joke
March 12th, 2007 at 11:24 amComment by TripMaster Monkey — March 12, 2007 @ 11:13 am
Why do you continue to insist on placing the most onus possible on the soldiers?
I said they need to get an independent diagnosis. That way they can be in a position to fight the Army’s claim that they are qualified. If they do not have something to repudiate the Army’s claim, they lose. That is the simple truth. Anybody that has ever served should know that (aren’t you a Vet?)
It is a case of the deck being stacked against the Soldiers. If the Army doctors are going to change their book, and say that this or that condition no longer exist, and they (the soldiers) do not make an effort to show that it does exist, then the system will side with the Army doctors. If the Soldiers can put something in the Army’s face saying “Look, you are WRONG”, it gives them a better position to fight from.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:25 amBobbo, maybe you need a transfer to Ft Benning.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:27 amI have been to Iraq twice. Everyone I saw had a weapon and body armor. I want to see and actual account of someone that didn’t. If one can not be provided, then one does not exist, right?
As for the injuries, I am not a M.D. I can not evaluate someones medical conditions. But I have never seen someone that was deployed that could not meet the physical requirements of their job.
Comment by hacker bob — March 12, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Hacker Bob, I never knew you were an Iraq vet. Sweet! Well, I can answer your question, but it is a bit old and much has changed since i was there. I went over with the 1457th Combat Engineers in Feb 2003. We were initially attached to the 3rd ID, then later to the 1st Armored. We had numerous soldiers without body armor. In fact, I didn’t get an Interceptor vest until several months in. Shortly afterwards we were issued one plate to put in the front, and later on we got the second plate to put in the back. We never had armored Humvees the whole time I was there. Many times I saw soldiers who were heavily wounded and required to stay for “headcount” purposes, or ladies who were pregnant, and were told they could not leave because they had gotten pregnant on purpose to keep from being deployed. They were eventually sent out though. Like I said, this was in the early days of the invasion, when the supply chain was broken, and yes I have seen National Guard units sent out on missions without ammo. But, I haven’t been over there since June of ‘04, so I can’t say how much has changed.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:28 amComment by dlet — March 12, 2007 @ 11:20 am
I have a problem with my right ankle. For 3 years, the Navy doctor I saw told me there was nothing wrong with it. I finally got sick of it and went for an outside opinion. When I was examined, they found scar tissue and torn ligiments in my ankle that the Navy did not pick up in. I took those results to the Navy and they re-examined it, found the independant report to be true, and “fixed” it. (it still give me fits) This took me out of deployable status for 6 months, but it forced and honest evaluation by the Navy.
“medical professionals in the armed services are not to be trusted.”
For the most part, they can be. But they can also make mistakes or be influenced by political pressure. Sometimes it can be a case of a Commander saying “Hey Doc, I’ll have him riding a desk over there. Can he do that?” In some cases he can clear the Soldier with those limitations and once they get “in country” the story changes to “I know you are supposed to be riding a desk, but I need you on this patrol.” So in a case like that, the doctor was not in the wrong, the Commander was.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:37 amBobbo, would the Army’s medical plan pay for such “2nd opinions”? Just curious…
March 12th, 2007 at 11:38 amWhen I was examined, they found scar tissue and torn ligiments in my ankle that the Navy did not pick up in. I took those results to the Navy and they re-examined it, found the independant report to be true, and “fixed†it. (it still give me fits) This took me out of deployable status for 6 months, but it forced and honest evaluation by the Navy.
Comment by hacker bob
Can you link that please?
March 12th, 2007 at 11:42 amComment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Was that an insult? :)
I am already scheduled to transfer to Ft. Leonard Wood in July. A Marine on an Army base, what a strange world we are in.
Comment by Chris — March 12, 2007 @ 11:28 am
Thank you for you input. Ever heard of TF Pegasus? (USMC, 2d TSB, 2d FSSG, sister of TF Tarawa)
Now, did you not have body armor, or just not an Interceptor? I had the old “Flak” 1st time and didn’t get the Interceptor until the second tour in ‘05.
And yes, Chris, you post makes me rethink what I said. Again, I have never seen it, but that does not mean it does not happen.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amCan you link that please?
Comment by dlet — March 12, 2007 @ 11:42 am
Link what, it is my personal story.
Bobbo, would the Army’s medical plan pay for such “2nd opinions� Just curious…
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 11:38 am
In some cases. That would have to be pre-authorized by Tricare (DoD insurance). The Soldier can ask his PCM to be “refered out” and then Tricare sill pay for it. BTW, the soldier is within his rights to get refered out if he disagrees with the Army’s findings.
March 12th, 2007 at 11:47 amLink what, it is my personal story.
Comment by hacker bob
Sorry but without direct evidence and proof that can be verified I would have to say that providing outside medical diagnosis would not help every case when the Armed Services medical units say they are fit to go. Just holding you to the same standard you hold others to bob.
March 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pm55.. the fact these people are even having to have bake sales for ANY kind of body armor is just the point….we can afford tax breaks for millionaires but we cant affort to give our troops the armor they need? to fight a war against a non -imminent threat? oh wait, the “imminent threat” was that “al nancy peloseda” might take control of congress and turn it into a giant gay wedding hall.
and bob you havent answered the question yet… when your hero dumbya makes an assertion, do you demand to see the same kind of proof you insist upon before you beleive anything a soldier says?
March 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmNow, we’re sending troops too injured to carry the equipment they don’t have. It makes sense, in a perverted sort of way. You know an army is on its last legs when the wounded have to guard the forts.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 12, 2007 @ 9:34 am
And even now the adminstration is patting itself on the back for cutting costs. Can’t wear body armor, don’t have to pay for it. No body armor, no serious injuries to treat and no long term head injuries to rehabilitate. Corpses are so much cheaper.
March 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pmKroger’s grocery store chair released a statement pledging never to refuse a customer access to the over-the-counter emergency contraceptive Plan B.
A sad world in which a pharmacist has to declare that it will always dispense legal medication whenever a customer wants to buy it.
Comment by dlet — March 12, 2007 @ 9:40 am
Every pill issued is one less soldier to neocons. And if the pill is needed in case of rape or incest that’s all the more likely that child being born will end up a soldier. They have their priorities.
March 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pm# 6. TripMaster Monkey:
Thank you for your input into the Rachel situation.
March 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmBut to keep things in proper context,you need to know for certain that I did quote the P.F. lyrics-that was NOT a Rachel name jacking.
At the time I really thought she/he did it.I also wrote (basically) the same thing on the Sensenbrenner thread.
#33
I have been to Iraq twice. Everyone I saw had a weapon and body armor. I want to see and actual account of someone that didn’t. If one can not be provided, then one does not exist, right?
Comment by hacker bob — March 12, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Oh they exist alright. Problem is, the ones who “didn’t” have the armor are more than likely six feet under at Arlington.
Any more wise questions Mr. “I can’t go, my ankle hurts?” Your ankle is better now though right? You did say it was fixed.
Yet you prefger to stay in the “rear with the gear” when an old experienced Vet like you could be over in Iraq saving lives with your battle hardened lessons learned experience.
What gives ultimate patriot?
March 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmOhBoyRoberto, which version of Visual Studio are you using?
March 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pm#6.
TMM,
Get fu*cked you fu*cking fu*ck!
signed,
R–A–C–H–E–L
BTW, Pink Who?
I don’t want to know anything about your sex toy collection okay?
March 12th, 2007 at 12:56 pmKeep it to yourself.
I still think you care too much about the rachel situation. Let her do as she pleases, like the above post… it is not her problem to do namejacking but TP´s. Live and let live, folks.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:05 pmComment by rachel — March 12, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
R–A–C–H–E–L strikes again.
BTW,I’m glad you made it through to the other side.
Heaven has the internet;who da’ thunk it.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:10 pmAnd Jesus doesn’t delete profanity filled posts–I can’t wait to get there.
Were you called the same when you were battling suicidal depression?
Why is it you and others seem to go out of your way to attack someone who apparently has some mental health issues?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire —
You are admitting to facts not in evidence, counselor. Or are you now also a psychiatrist? Rachel is a loon, but not a treatable one. You on the other hand, are a sap. I would only add, don’t take any legal cases that involve confidence schemes, ’cause from your comments about Rachel, it’s apparent you’d be out of your depth. Wise up; it’s a scam.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:12 pmLooks like rachel got some help afterall. Well, sort of.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:15 pmMorning TA/Rachel. Another day, another fake identity?
March 12th, 2007 at 1:15 pmIf you can’t say something nice then don’t say anything at all.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:27 pmRachel is obviously ill. Part of her illness is manipulating others to gain control. Which makes it difficult to find compassion for her after you find out she manipulated you. Due to the nature of her illness, the most hurtful thing a person can do is ignore her. She would rather be verbally abused than ignored.
I for one have decided to ignore her. This is not the appropriate place for her to seek compassion, understanding, or even some form of help, and she knows that. I would say her treatment providers are letting her down.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pmRachel may or may not have depression. It appears to be more like Bi-Polar disorder. In which case she needs to stay on her medication. Bi-Polar disordered folks are famous for going off the medications.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIf you can’t say something nice then don’t say anything at all.
Comment by mom
I second that.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:39 pmAnd I am the expert in these matters. I predicted on Friday she was not going to kill herself, and she’s back today. It was all a manipulation and people fell for it. I recommend she be fully ignored and she will eventually go away. If even one person responds to her, its enough of a reinforcement schedule to keep her around. Ignore her.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:40 pmMorning TA/Rachel. Another day, another fake identity?
Comment by barfly
For anyone interested in keeping the Rachel saga in context-HEAR THIS.
In the past Rachel has ‘jacked’ my,and others,name.As far as I can tell that hasn’t happened again for atleast a month.
Appearently Barfly just can’t seem to get this.
The posts by ‘troll alert’ recently are authentic-if not, I’ll let you know.
Barfly,if you want to stay confused,that’s your prerogative.
troll alert
March 12th, 2007 at 1:41 pmComment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
I am not using visual studio.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by compatriate — March 12, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
My ankle situation was several years ago. I was not able to deploy to Kosovo because of it. I have already told my command that if they need me to go back to Iraq, I would. I haev a friend that has asked to go 3 times, and thy will not deploy him. Why? Because of a medical condition. The reason I am still “in the rear with te gear” is because the Marine Corps has seen fit to send me to an instructor job instead. It was not a request of mine.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pmRachel doesn’t “battle” her suicidal depressive moments, she uses them, and embraces them to get her way. If she was truly fighting her symptoms she would have sought help the appropriate and responsible ways. She’s not stupid. She does not take responsibility for her illness.
(And yes I’ve been there too, and battled it appropriately)
March 12th, 2007 at 1:49 pmBob ~ I thought you were doing .NET programming??
March 12th, 2007 at 1:51 pmComment by vAliant penus — March 12, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
I answered you question already, But I will simplify the answer for you.
BECAUSE OF MY POSITION, I DO NOT HAVE THE “RIGHT” TO QUESTION THE EVIDENCE. I WISH I DID. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BUT I AM ONLY PRIVY TO WHAT COMES THROUGH CHANNELS.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThe posts by ‘troll alert’ recently are authentic-if not, I’ll let you know.WTF? If you were jacking the handle, you could let us know as well.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmBob ~ I thought you were doing .NET programming??
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
I have done it. Currently I am not able to do it. In a garrison environment they do not like us to use the .net or any other .asp pages. It is a crappy contractor related thing. In a deployed environment we have more leeway with the servers and such.
In garrison, I am currently restricted to basic html/java script simple stuff. Our sites are currently being run on lotus domino servers and are controlled by contractors. If I need any fancy work, or even simple forms built, they have to do it. I am not allowed to.
F*CKING CONTRACTORS.
Do you know anything about Sharepoint ‘07? That is what we are migrating to soon.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pmIf you were jacking the handle, you could let us know as well.
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
You’re too smart by 1/2,punk.
March 12th, 2007 at 2:01 pmBobbb,.
March 12th, 2007 at 3:15 pmLotus! Oh you poor bastard.
You’re too smart by 1/2,punk.
March 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pmComment by troll alert
And U, darlin, are 2 transparent, by far.
Bobbb, Sharepoint is cool. You build web parts and use them as panels in your web pages.
March 12th, 2007 at 3:20 pmHere’s a link.
http://download.microsoft.com/ download/ 0/ 2/ f/ 02f0f661-88e1-43c2-b523-88d2e9e6802f/ 7%20development%20projects%20with%20the%202007%20microsoft%20office%20system%20and%20windows%20sharepoint%20services%202007.pdf
Lotus! Oh you poor bastard.
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Thank you. So, you have felt my pain….
Thanks for the SP link. Now that the USMC has decided to go with this, I have to figure it out and “sell” it to the sub-units, organize training, yada yada,…
You know the drill.
March 12th, 2007 at 3:23 pmGood luck to you, Bob. As much as you and I find to disagree about, I really do respect you and wish you the best. I’m an instructor at our CC and it’s really a challenge to get into the classroom one step ahead of the students. Cheers!
March 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pmComment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Thanks. I feel the same about you.
I am hoping for 2 weeks TAD to Microsoft to get my training.
One can always hope…..
March 12th, 2007 at 3:51 pmComment by Chris — March 12, 2007 @ 11:28 am
Chris, thank you for your service!
March 12th, 2007 at 4:08 pmBob, I work about 25 minutes away from MS. We gots to do lunch!@
March 12th, 2007 at 6:14 pmBob, I work about 25 minutes away from MS. We gots to do lunch!@
Comment by RUCerious — March 12, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
You are on! I’ll let you know when I get there. Reserve a table for July.
March 12th, 2007 at 7:44 pmForTruth,
Are you here?
March 12th, 2007 at 7:46 pmForTruth,
I need to ask you a few questions in the TF.
March 12th, 2007 at 7:55 pmPlease find time. It’s important.
I can hardly wait for the US helicopters evacuate Americans out of Baghdad the same way as done in Saigon, 1975. It will be a great day for freedom fighters to drive out the imperialist occupiers from their country The world will rejoice at a US defeat.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:19 pmMaybe some other time ForTruth. You must be very, very busy.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:28 pmI figured ForTruth, that since you wanted to foist yourself into the role of my doctor from a very long long distance without so much as a physical, I might be able to ask a few pertinent “patient” type questions.
I don’t blame you for not showing up in the TF thread. No one likes to be made a fool of while being taken to task.
You’re free to go now.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:36 pmForTruth,
How Frist-Esque of you pal.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:39 pmHey rachel,
March 12th, 2007 at 8:47 pmI’m not ForTruth, and I haven’t read up on the Friday thing.
If you want to talk or say something, I’ll listen.
trueblue,
Don’t. Just don’t.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:56 pmThe five people I trust on this site completely and totally is as follows, and in no particular order.
Sharon - Zooey - Brisdeah na Faire - (TrueBlue) (for coming to my aid a long time ago vs. unbelievable when I was new) and Katy.
Take it as a heavy yoke, or a badge of honor, the choice is yours. But I choose my friends very closely, and they have been with me since the beginning. I want them to know I will, and always have, to the best of my ability, been there for them.
This is what a TRUE friend does.
They don’t “cut and run”
These are the types friends I choose.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pmThe five people I trust on this site completely and totally is as follows, and in no particular order.
Sharon - Zooey - Brisdeah na Faire - (TrueBlue) (for coming to my aid a long time ago vs. unbelievable when I was new) and Katy.
Take it as a heavy yoke, or a badge of honor, the choice is yours. But I choose my friends very closely, and they have been with me since the beginning. I want them to know I will, and always have, to the best of my ability, been there for them.
This is what a TRUE friend does.
They don’t “cut and run”
These are the types friends I choose.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:12 pmc’mon, rachel.
Talk to me here, OK?
You had a really bad day, I totally understand.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:21 pmJust don’t post the same thing on every thread.
I’d like it to remain between just us.
Other people might not understand, and you don’t need it right now.
Just here, OK?
let me know what’s going on, rachel
March 12th, 2007 at 9:31 pmokay trueblue.
thanks. and i for you too.
i just miss how my life “could have been” if I had not been run over by a drunk driver is all. That’s why I add the “esq.” to my name occasionally. It brings back some very good memories of what “might have been.”
More later. Thanks for listening.
I have to go to bed now.
g’nite
March 12th, 2007 at 9:34 pmYou had questions.
I can help.
Ask me.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:38 pmJust stay up a bit longer….
rachel
let someone help.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:41 pmDon’t retreat.
I tried.
March 12th, 2007 at 9:57 pmTrueblue,
I wanted to share some funnies and some inspirations with you.
I hope you enjoy.
Namaste.
“I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops!”
- General “Buck” Turgidson, Dr. Strangelove
Oh, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!”
- Dennis, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
.
“Jane, since I’ve met you I’ve noticed things that I never knew were there before; birds singing, dew glistening on a newly formed leaf, stoplights.”
- Frank Drebin, Naked Gun
“I know what this is.. it’s an espresso machine… no no no.. it’s a snow-cone maker.. is it a WATER heater?”
- Harry, True Lies
ERIN BROKOVICH
(Female Lawyer)Theresa Dallavale: Okay, look, I think we got off on the wrong foot here —
Erin Brockovich: That’s all you got, lady. Two wrong feet. In fu*cking ugly shoes.
Erin Brockovich: For the first time in my life, I got people respecting me. Please, don’t ask me to give it up.
Erin Brockovich: Did they teach you how to apologize at lawyer school? ‘Cause you suck at
Ed Masry: So what makes you think you can just walk in there and take whatever you want?
Erin Brockovich: They’re called boobs, Ed.
Erin Brockovich: These people don’t dream about being rich. They dream about being able to watch their kids swim in a pool without worrying that they’ll have to have a hysterectomy at the age of *twenty*. Like Rosa Diaz, a client of ours. Or have their spine deteriorate, like Stan Blume, *another* client of ours. So before you come back here with another lame-ass offer, I want you to think real hard about what your spine is worth, Mr. Walker. Or what you might expect someone to pay you for your uterus, Ms. Sanchez. Then you take out your calculator and you multiply that number by a hundred. Anything less than that is a waste of our time. [Ms. Sanchez picks up a glass of water.] By the way, we had that water brought in especially for you folks. Came from a well in Hinkley.
George: How many numbers you got?
Erin Brockovich: Oh, I got numbers comin’ outta my ears. For instance: ten.
George: Ten?
Erin Brockovich: Yeah. That’s how many months old my baby girl is.
George: You got a little girl?
Erin Brockovich: Yeah. Yeah, sexy, huh? How ’bout this for a number? Six. That’s how old my other daughter is, eight is the age of my son, two is how many times I’ve been married — and divorced; sixteen is the number of dollars I have in my bank account. 850-3943. That’s my phone number, and with all the numbers I gave you, I’m guessing zero is the number of times you’re gonna call it.
Ed Masry: In a law firm you may want to re-think your wardrobe a little.
March 12th, 2007 at 10:28 pmErin Brockovich: Well as long as I have one ass instead of two I’ll wear what I like if that’s alright with you? You might want to re-think those ties.
These are akin to my thoughts on the human “condition” as well as my own from time to time.
Void
by Michael Anderson
Void, canceled, simply annulled.
Endlessly aching, unconsoled.
Life without you, cause without reason.
Touch without sense, time without season.
I face life now facing a cancerous sore,
A sordid parasite that eats at my core.
All that makes me whole, all I hold deep within,
Leaving me lifeless, or at least not livin’.
A shallow face, anguished and marred.
An empty space, scaled and scarred.
Sweetly abiding to a cynical charade.
Secretly hiding ‘hind a fictitious facade.
Still, lost within this heart of glass,
This fragile and yet unfeeling mass.
Lies the remains of a love that glowed,
The gift to you I once bestowed.
But honor and pride now bereaved-
By your love for me so misconceived,
Ripped from my inner depths, impeding-
Mind and body and spirit, bleeding;
Now’s crushed to sand from thy ruthless hand,
A cold stare I just can’t understand.
I feel that somehow, somehow I’m dying,
At least my soul and all that’s underlying.
A simple void, is that what I’ve become?
March 12th, 2007 at 11:36 pmThe hollowed sphere on a pendulum.
Swinging back and forth, emotion to emotion,
Never once stopping, nor slowing the motion.
No reason, no answer, no justification.
The creation of a sterile imagination.
Just passing through time as time passes me.
Merely a nothing- nothing, merely, left to be.
Sightless and soundless, unseen and unheard.
Mindless and boundless, obscure and absurd.
All empathy lying ungraced, unemployed,
I live my life dying, unembraced, a void.
Here’s a secret.
I began to tell my father what my older brothers David, Mark and Peter had done. His reply and I’ll never forget it or the look on his face, his reply quite candidly was, “Kids will be kids Rachel! Don’t you breathe a word of this to anyone! Especially your mother! It would break her heart! Because it is all your fault you know, now you fetch me another beer, ya here!” Then he himself began to abuse me a few month’s after I told him about my brothers. And my brothers continued on right along with him. Sometimes they were all together, sometimes they were alone.
Mark- 16
David- 17
Peter- 20
My Father- 37
Me- 9 until 17.
Then I ran away and tried to become a lawyer. So along came a drunk and cut my car in half “literally” and made me die 3 times on the life-flight on the way to the ER. Tough luck. I was on my way to school very early one morning. I got T-Boned because this drunken bozo forgot to turn his lights on.
Paralysis waist down, and severe brain trauma is what I got for my trouble. I get really bad migraines on occasion, that is why I just disappear for a few days into a darkened room.
That is why I cannot stand alcohol and the people who drink it when mixed with a loaded missile that is commonly referred to as an automobile.
What’s the moral of the story?
Pray to your God you are NEVER the only stepsister brought into an inbred bunch of backwoods southern perverts with a natural mamma who used to be a 60’s biker chick who chewed tobacco with the best of them and shot up heroin on a regular basis on account of my stepfather got her all strung out on that shit so she would stay with him. She eventually OD’d.
Good riddance!
And pray drunk drivers just stay “drunk” and don’t ever drive.
That’s what you need to pray to your God about, that it NEVER happens to ANYONE EVER AGAIN!
I feel better now.
Hey i kinda like this.
March 13th, 2007 at 1:38 am105.
Ball Sucker,
Mr Soros has zero control over what one or many investment firms does with his money, and there is alot of it to be sure.
But to be realistic, stop making Soro’s out to be the one who is to be percieved as “evil” and who personally invested it HIMSELF!
Making him a war profiteer.
It just isn’t so.
Your strawman sucks.
Isn’t their a “Troll-School” somewhere where you could attend?
March 13th, 2007 at 2:19 amRachel,if all that is true,it’s very sad.
March 13th, 2007 at 3:06 amI’ll be your friend.
Barfly,if you want to stay confused,that’s your prerogative.
troll alert
Comment by troll alert
Well, I’m convinced.
Have fun, Rache.
March 13th, 2007 at 3:10 am“In case the president’s escalation fails?” YOU MEAN WHEN CHIMPya’s ESCALATION WILL FAIL–WHICH IS VERY SOON, IF NOT ALREADY–THAT’S Bushland Uber Allies FOR YOU–WASTING MONEY AND MANPOWER ON A PLAN DOOMED TO FAIL FROM THE BEGINNING AND A GUTLESS CONGRESS THAT DOESN’T TACKLE THIS CREEP CHIMPya AND SMASH HIM TO THE FLOOR LIKE I WOULD BE WILLING TO, WITH DISPATCH!!!!!
March 13th, 2007 at 7:48 pm“If they can walk on their own, they’re fit for combat”–TYPICAL SOCIOPATHIC DISREGARD FOR THE AMERICAN SERVICEMAN A LA CHIMPya and Bushland Uber Allies–MAKE THESE CREEPS SERVE IN THE FRONT LINES AND SEE HOW FAST THEY RETREAT FROM COMBAT–GUTLESS SNIVELLING COWARDLY SCUM-SHITS!!!!!
CHIMPya and Bushland Uber Allies CARES NOT A WHIT IF AMERICA IS UNPOPULAR AND TOURISM FALLS OFF AS LONG AS THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR STATUS QUO, i.e., THEIR EVIL HOLD ON AMERICA–AND MILK IT OF ALL ITS WORTH TO FILL THEIR PERSONAL COFFERS AND POCKETS OF THEIR Bushland Uber Allies in the MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, BIG BUSINESS, WAR-RELATED BUSINESS, BIG OIL, BIG PHARMACEUTICALS, ET CETERA AD NAUSEUM!!!!!
Ah Yes, “highest of high standards” EXCEPT WHEN THE PERSON IN QUESTION HAPPENS TO BE A KEY FIGURE OF Bushland Uber Allies, NAMELY Torticola DICK-less B(ugger) Cheney’s BUTT-BOY Scooter Libby–A HYPOCRITICAL EXCEPTION TO CHIMPya’s RULE BECAUSE ALL BETS ARE OFF WHEN A MEMBER OF THEIR INNER CIRCLE IS INVOLVED!!!!!
ANYTHING Bushland Uber Allies CAN DO TO KEEP EVEN QUALIFIED U.S. CITIZENS FROM GETTING THEIR JUST DUE FROM MEDICAID–DIVIDE AND CONQUER, THE Rovian/Bush/Cheney STRATEGY!!!!!
KUDOS TO Kroger’s grocery store(tm)!!!!!
AS THE ARMY SHRINKS, SO GROWS THE NECESSITY OF BRINGING BACK THE DRAFT LIKE Charlie Rangel SAID!!!!!
“Blackmail, Mr. Gonzales? Isn’t that ILLEGAL?” Oh I forgot, You are the “Injustice Department” SO WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED AT YOUR LAWLESS and CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, Mr. Inqusitor General Alberto VO5 Gonzales?
THE LESS KNOWN BY THE PEOPLE HOW TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH, THE BETTER OFF THE SECRETIVE Bushland Uber Allies FORTRESS WILLL BE!!!!!
A POPULAR SONG AT Gitmo: “YES, WE HAVE NO BANANAS…”