29 percent:
By on Mar 13th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
29 percent:
An all-time low number of Americans who believe things are going well in Iraq. CNN: “For the first time since the Iraq war began, less than half of Americans believe the United States can win in Iraq, a CNN poll said Tuesday. Just 46 percent think the United States will win.”
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Grave doubts indeed.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:23 pmLots of doubts.
And lots of graves.
where in the hell do they find these 29%ers to answer a poll when obviously they cannot even read a news page?
March 13th, 2007 at 5:25 pmStill as high as 29%? WTF is wrong with this country!
March 13th, 2007 at 5:29 pmwhere in the hell do they find these 29%ers to answer a poll when obviously they cannot even read a news page?
To the North and to the East and somewhat to the South and West…we know where they are.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“think the US will win” ?????
I don’t understand the use of the word “win” in this context. There is no win. We have lost thousands. Iraq has lost tens of thousands. A large percentage of our military will return home (eventually) physically and or psychologically damaged. The respect our country earned over the decades as the world standard for democracy, fairness, and generosity has been lost. The very idea that our military can “win” in a civil war between groups of Iraqis is absurd.
The country I grew up in is lost. No one has won, and no one will win.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:34 pmIt’s must be the 29% of Americans who are addicted to large vehicles, radical religiosity, commercial television, the couch, and Anheuser-Busch.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:35 pmNot necessarily in that order, or any combination thereof…
Found this on the Huffington Post today, a quote from that great American who served his country well (sarcastically speaking), Donald Rumsfeld:
“The topic today is an adversary that poses a threat, to the security of the United States of America. This adversary is one of the world’s last bastions of central planning. It governs by dictating five-year plans. From a single capital, it attempts to impose demands across time zones, continents, oceans, and beyond. With brutal consistency, it stifles free thought and crushes new ideas. It disrupts the defense of the United States and places the lives of men and women in uniform at risk. Perhaps this adversary sounds like the former Soviet Union… [but] this adversary is closer to home. It’s the Bush Administration.”
Okay, maybe he didn’t say ‘Bush Administration’ he actually said Pentagon bureaucracy, but it sounds so much more fitting.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:35 pmWhen are we going to do something serious about this- When the percentage ratio reaches 1%? What is wrong with these imbeciles? Hasn’t this 29% lost a son or daughter or two, yet? Can you believe we live in a country where 29% of the population decides the direction for the remaining 71%? I’m getting mighty tired of the rhetoric and am ready for something more.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:35 pmControl, by the base of 29% which supports the pResident, does not constitue majority rule.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:40 pm#6- … And porn and extramarital sex, as long as no one talks about it openly. After all, we DO have our image to consider now, don’t we?
March 13th, 2007 at 5:40 pmBut… but… how can this be? The surge is WORKING I tell you! This must be the work of the damned librul media.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:45 pmprecisely… we wouldn’t want anyone to think we were Newt Foleys or anything…
March 13th, 2007 at 5:47 pm( and as a premptive strike to deflect the trolls….)
Teddy Bills…
Win? ..you mean, let the American and multinational corporations have their way with Iraq’s resources while maybe 10% of the Iraqis, who collaborate, prosper. The rest live a life of surfdom and the country must be occupied indefinately to be controlled.That kind of win?.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:47 pmThis shouldn’t come as a surprise of Republicans at all. They know that the administration has completely screwed up the war in Iraq up but party loyality keeps them in a state of denial. If they were smart, they’d join with Democrats and bring an end to this war. But as a Democrat who wants to win back the WH in 2008, I say let them continue to support a losing strategy. Apparently they don’t think enough soldiers have died, been wounded, and we haven’t spent enough of our money on what will turn out to be Bush’s Viet Nam.
What Republicans don’t seem to realize is the American people are far ahead of either party in the way they view the situation in Iraq. They would like to win, but they know when they’re fighting a losing battle. The war could be won but that would require a total commitment by the adminstration. Thus far they have basically played a political game with Democrats rather than sitting down and facing the facts of the ground. If they ever admitted truth and developed a real strategy, which actually works, then we’d see progress and I believe they could regain the trust of the people.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:49 pm#6 – You forgot to include addiction to the Faux Noise Network. After all thats where the 29 percent get the word that all is well in Iraqnam.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:55 pmThis is the fault of the scum libby media. Bill O’Reilly just said violence in Baghdad is down 80%. The surge is working. We are winning. But you wouldn’t know that listening to the scum lbiby media and traitors like Harry Reid and John “the Breck girl” Edwards.
March 13th, 2007 at 6:06 pmIraq: At least 55 killed in another brutal day of U.S. occupation: Police said four bodies were found in Mosul on Tuesday. That was in addition to 13 bodies with gunshot wounds that were found during the previous 48 hours in the northern city
Iraq: At least 27 killed in ongoing U.S. occupation: A total of 20 bodies were found shot dead on Sunday in different districts of Baghdad, police said.
Five U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq : – A total of five U.S. soldiers were killed and three others wounded in Iraq on Sunday, the U.S. military said on Monday
March 13th, 2007 at 6:14 pmIraq Oil Law Runs into Opposition
The next ten days or so could be critical……….
March 13th, 2007 at 6:15 pmBill O’Reilly just said violence in Baghdad is down 80%.
Well, that just clinches right there! “The Man” has spoken and now I can rest easy knowing that I know all that I need to know about the previously unknown and known unknowns. You know?
/sarc off
March 13th, 2007 at 6:18 pm/barf
29% of people who voluntarily answer a poll as opposed to people who were called and asked their opinion is not a legitimate poll.
March 13th, 2007 at 6:20 pmAs you can imagine Fox News viewer answer more polls than the average news watcher.
And look the large number of posts here from a relatively small amount of trolls.
Still as high as 29%?
hey I read an article a couple months ago saying 65% of americans thinks Jesus will come back this year 07 – next year the same 65% will think Jesus is coming back in 08
That would explain at least 29% ?????? the other 36% think Jesus is coming back and Bush will lose the Iraq war
As where in the UK 16% go to church every week and 10% of the total were Muslim……. we have 6% christians going to church and still 30% supporting Blair ????
March 13th, 2007 at 6:20 pmThis is the fault of the scum libby media. Bill O’Reilly just said violence in Baghdad is down 80%. The surge is working. We are winning. But you wouldn’t know that listening to the scum lbiby media and traitors like Harry Reid and John “the Breck girl†Edwards.
Comment by firehead
Bill O is a liar and a bully. Just because HE says so doesn’t make it so. In fact much like the Emperor Bush he so defends, when he says so usually the opposite is true. We know that the Fascist Propaganda Channel is where you get your talking points from (they call it news), but that garbage won’t fly here.
March 13th, 2007 at 6:21 pmThe 29 percenters.
March 13th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThey don’t believe in global warming, either.
March 13th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThey don’t believe in global warming, either.
Comment by VerbalKint
Or science. Or dissent. Or reality.
March 13th, 2007 at 6:29 pmUS Military Plans Iraq Pullout in Case ‘Surge’ Fails
noticed this headlines a lot recently in the news the last few days ????
March 13th, 2007 at 6:30 pmThe biggest problem this country has is the Fox spin cycle,the middle east has been in turmoil for centuries no bush wacker can change that,so why doesn’t he just stay home and help the american people who can’t afford oil for warmth and medicine for there life,the people in Iraq did not ask Bushie to invade there country,halliburton did
March 13th, 2007 at 6:32 pmBiggest problem in the world …. The Lying Media
Biggest threat to mankind on the planet …. Bush and Republicans
March 13th, 2007 at 6:38 pmExcept for the facts that the world situation is going to hell in a handbasket, that our liberties are being taken away one by one, that global warming is increasing exponentially, that corruption is way outta control and that the stock market went way down today, it’s actually getting to be fun to be a liberal again. Hooray for that!
March 13th, 2007 at 6:42 pmThis 29% will slowly grow in 08 as the republicans need a 50-50 or a 48-52 to be able to cheat in the elections with Diabold machines …remember that
If Bush steals the Iraqi oil support will grow for him
March 13th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThe respect our country earned over the decades as the world standard for democracy, fairness, and generosity has been lost.
Comment by lw
Not trying to be inflaming but where did you get that?
March 13th, 2007 at 6:58 pmThe war is already lost.
March 13th, 2007 at 7:08 pmPeople are just slow in recognizing it because of the bs coming out of the white house and its toadies.
GWB attacked the wrong country and lost. So sad.
March 13th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThis war was lost on March 19, 2003.
March 13th, 2007 at 7:22 pmWe are suck with this 29% again ain’t we. Is this the bottom? If it is, the America is in trouble. I want what they are smoking.
March 13th, 2007 at 8:02 pmEven the Native peoples of Guatemala know…
…that George W. Bush’s Karma…
…is rotten…
…the right wing fascist TRAITORS…
…in the criminal Bushite junta…
…those in the DUHmerican voting public who support/worship Bushiva and L’il Dick…
…are cursed…
…the Native Peoples of Guatemala had to cleanse a sacred site…
…after Bushiva had visited there…
…to rid the area of Bushiva’s evil Karma…
March 13th, 2007 at 8:11 pmComment by Raven #6
Hey Raven,
…lay off Anheuser-Busch will ya…
March 13th, 2007 at 8:17 pmNothing to win in Iraq except to control its OIL for Petroleum Cartel.
March 13th, 2007 at 8:47 pmWe could have left long ago if our reason for the invasion had been WMD or regime change. But since the reason was to control that part of the world (mostly due to its oil and gas), then we must stay, build fourteen permanent bases, an embassy larger than Vatican City and constantly come up with new reasons why we must stay.
March 13th, 2007 at 9:46 pmJust think about who answered yes to this question: “Things are going well in Iraq.”
3,000 Americans are dead.
50,000 or many more Iraqis are dead.
There is chaos, civil war, beheadings, torcher, suicide bombers, and car bombs in Iraq.
Considering REALITY, what kind of RETARD would say things are going well? A retard could probably figure this out, right, and would say NO- things ARE NOT going “WELL” in Iraq. So what kind of braindead fool can you count on if they say something that is bizzare and insane. Those 29% are braindead and their votes are VOID!
March 13th, 2007 at 9:46 pmThe estimate of 655,000 Iraqi deaths (from the Johns Hopkins/Lancet study) is a lot more accurate than the figure given by IraqBodyCount.org. It includes ALL deaths as a result of the war (directly by violence and indirectly by destruction of healthcare and clean water, etc.).
IBC (58,637-to-64,444) only includes direct violence and insists on two different media sources for each one. This is unreasonable given the chaos in the country. Mostly, journalists are afraid to leave the Green Zone. In 2006 alone, about 36,000 bodies were in morgues obviously killed by violence.
The Johns Hopkins/Lancet researchers were going door-to-door in Iraq and saw death certificates in 95% of the cases. They compared total deaths in Iraq in the forty months before our invasion to the total deaths in the forty months after our invasion. Contrary to what Bush says, there is nothing wrong with this methodology. It is, in fact the most recognized.
March 13th, 2007 at 10:10 pmDon’t respond to firehead. He is a non-funny Colbert.
March 13th, 2007 at 10:33 pmYou guys are happy that the American people feel demoralized. Hey Al-Qaeda should thank the left for their help.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:10 amSo now go celebrate for when we leave there will be blood bath there that’ll make Bosnia look like a gangwar!
You guys continue to celebrate American deaths as long as it helps politically, who cares!
Al Qaeda loves the Bush administration for opening up Iraq to them. The “secular hedonist” Saddam strongly suppressed them.
Every conservative said we could not leave Vietnam because there would be a bloodbath. Of course, they lied.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:19 amEvery conservative criticized Bill Clinton for taking action in Bosnia which stopped the killing and did not cost a single American life.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:21 amTHE REAL FIGURES ARE WORSE! Bushland Uber Allies CONSISTENTLY TRY TO DOWNPLAY THE FIASCO, THE DISASTER, THE BLOODBATH IN Iraq–ALL THANKS TO CHIMPya, Torticola Cheney, Rove, Dumbsfailed, WolfFARTwhizz, Perle, Feith, Addington, Yoo, CAD-ley, Rice, Powell, Armitage, Ashcroft, Gonzales, all neocons, Bushland Uber Allies–”The SHIT-Ship of FOOLS”!!!!!
March 14th, 2007 at 12:25 amkeith,
March 14th, 2007 at 12:31 amThere waas a bloodbath in Vietnam you fool!
I don’t think you can find a single historian that says there was a bloodbath. Please provide a link.
There were over 3,000,000 Vietnamese killed (and 58,000 Americans) before we pulled out. The Pentagon Papers said we must prevent the free elections we had promised in 1954 uniting Vietnam because it was obvious Ho Chi Minh would win about 80& of the vote.
Ho Chi Minh greatly admired the US and was grateful to them for helping drive Japan out of Vietnam.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:41 amthat should be 80%
March 14th, 2007 at 12:45 amThe Pentqgon Papers said the domino theory was not true.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a lie.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amWe actually caused the deaths of a lot more than three million Vietnamese if you include the ones who have died the past 32 years from the tens of millions of gallons of herbicide plus dioxin that we dumped on their farmland. There are still birth defects today.
We promised $3.2 billion in reconstruction but paid nothing.
There would have been no genocide in Cambodia if not for the US killing 200,000 of them by bombing. This led to Pol Pot coming to power.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:54 amfor an article on whether the US created a bloodbath in Iraq or is preventing one, go here:
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/12/14/the_bloodbath_we_created.php
March 14th, 2007 at 1:10 amIn an April 1972 conversation between Nixon and Henry Kissinger, the president and his national security advisor spent four minutes debating how, in an approaching speech, Nixon should characterize the likely victims and whether he should claim that “hundreds of thousands†would be killed in a post-withdrawal bloodbath or, more menacingly, “millions†would lose their lives.
March 14th, 2007 at 1:17 amthat is still amazingly high, I think. How can so many people still think 21th century wars are winnable? Is hollywood really the new Harvard? Just remember, agression comes back to you and you can’t fight fire with fire in most cases.
March 14th, 2007 at 9:43 am