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	<title>Comments on: Pelosi: &#8216;We Don&#8217;t Need Moral Judgment From The Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Citizen sane</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-3770976</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen sane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sruggle with ethics, don&#039;t think I don&#039;t. I was raised Catholic, but in learning of protestant ideas, I quit going and have lived in frustrated confusion ever since.  So I don&#039;t fit with athiests or religious people very well. Still I have an opinion if you want to hear me  out.

One thing seems clear... The need for moral judgement from the joint Chiefs is desperately needed. Nancy Pelosi is wrong. I may be taking this out of context. It&#039;s a bit gray. There is much fear by many that the attacks of 911 at the world trade center was an inside job (see www.infowars.com) It is put for that operation Northwoods back in 1962 would have seen the military bomb US cities to trick the American People to support a war on Cuba. All the Joint chiefs approved the plan. The Commander in Chief, John F Kennedy said NO! I believe the joint chiefs  SHOULD hAVE exercised moral judgement in this situation, but didn&#039;t.  Now we have a President that cannot even understand why torture is a bad policy , even if that judgement is not made on the basis of religion.  So now Pelosi doesn&#039;t want Moral Judgement on the part of the Joint Chiefs? I believe the joint chiefs need to make moral judgement that applies to the MILITARY. Be thankful that the military keeps out of our civilian lives! When civilians deny moral judgement to Military leaders affecting  how thier own troops must behave we have crossed the line...  a dangerous line. At least if we insist that such people be allowed in, the option should be given the military on how to position these troops.

My own position, if given the duty to protect my people in combat would look something like this:

 For years  it was policy to have men only in combat position.  When the troops returned from combat, they could go out and get sex in a civilian situation. Now we get situations such as rape of women, and peeps don&#039;t know why? One must become an animal in combat situations.  Hormones including adrenaline run high. After killing a bunch of people, I&#039;m sure rape seems trivial to some of these men. And the higher stress becomes, some snap. Some bad people get into the military and don&#039;t need the stress of war to do bad things.  Why do peeps think that for so long, men wanted their daughters to stay out of the military?. Believe me I do not condone any rape. If I was in the military and some gay guy raped me, I would probably kill him. Is it wrong? God says that it&#039;s wrong to kill, so war is already wrong. I&#039;m sure if war was enough to excuse a rape, I think I would be justified in killing my rapist. But situations like this are best avoided.  That&#039;s why a tight knit group fights better and survives better. If women and gays must be in the military, let them have thier own units. Segregate them. If women want to be in the military segregate them.  People want to say being homosexual is OK. I think to some its not OK and those people should be respected as well. If a straight person would object to a stranger of the opposite sex watching them in the bathroom, out of fear , why can&#039;t gay people understand how creepy it is for some straight person would be uncomfortable with a gay person watching, especially if that other person were twice as big or strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sruggle with ethics, don&#8217;t think I don&#8217;t. I was raised Catholic, but in learning of protestant ideas, I quit going and have lived in frustrated confusion ever since.  So I don&#8217;t fit with athiests or religious people very well. Still I have an opinion if you want to hear me  out.</p>
<p>One thing seems clear&#8230; The need for moral judgement from the joint Chiefs is desperately needed. Nancy Pelosi is wrong. I may be taking this out of context. It&#8217;s a bit gray. There is much fear by many that the attacks of 911 at the world trade center was an inside job (see <a href="http://www.infowars.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.infowars.com</a>) It is put for that operation Northwoods back in 1962 would have seen the military bomb US cities to trick the American People to support a war on Cuba. All the Joint chiefs approved the plan. The Commander in Chief, John F Kennedy said NO! I believe the joint chiefs  SHOULD hAVE exercised moral judgement in this situation, but didn&#8217;t.  Now we have a President that cannot even understand why torture is a bad policy , even if that judgement is not made on the basis of religion.  So now Pelosi doesn&#8217;t want Moral Judgement on the part of the Joint Chiefs? I believe the joint chiefs need to make moral judgement that applies to the MILITARY. Be thankful that the military keeps out of our civilian lives! When civilians deny moral judgement to Military leaders affecting  how thier own troops must behave we have crossed the line&#8230;  a dangerous line. At least if we insist that such people be allowed in, the option should be given the military on how to position these troops.</p>
<p>My own position, if given the duty to protect my people in combat would look something like this:</p>
<p> For years  it was policy to have men only in combat position.  When the troops returned from combat, they could go out and get sex in a civilian situation. Now we get situations such as rape of women, and peeps don&#8217;t know why? One must become an animal in combat situations.  Hormones including adrenaline run high. After killing a bunch of people, I&#8217;m sure rape seems trivial to some of these men. And the higher stress becomes, some snap. Some bad people get into the military and don&#8217;t need the stress of war to do bad things.  Why do peeps think that for so long, men wanted their daughters to stay out of the military?. Believe me I do not condone any rape. If I was in the military and some gay guy raped me, I would probably kill him. Is it wrong? God says that it&#8217;s wrong to kill, so war is already wrong. I&#8217;m sure if war was enough to excuse a rape, I think I would be justified in killing my rapist. But situations like this are best avoided.  That&#8217;s why a tight knit group fights better and survives better. If women and gays must be in the military, let them have thier own units. Segregate them. If women want to be in the military segregate them.  People want to say being homosexual is OK. I think to some its not OK and those people should be respected as well. If a straight person would object to a stranger of the opposite sex watching them in the bathroom, out of fear , why can&#8217;t gay people understand how creepy it is for some straight person would be uncomfortable with a gay person watching, especially if that other person were twice as big or strong.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3770976', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Archives &#187; The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. &#8212; H L Mencken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Archives &#187; The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. &#8212; H L Mencken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] she wanted the military to fire him. Pam Spaulding of Pandagon wanted him gone as well. Even Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, told us that the chairman shouldn&#8217;t let us know about ... &#8212; as though Mrs Pelosi hasn&#8217;t been perfectly willing to let us know what she thinks [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] she wanted the military to fire him. Pam Spaulding of Pandagon wanted him gone as well. Even Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, told us that the chairman shouldn&#8217;t let us know about &#8230; &#8212; as though Mrs Pelosi hasn&#8217;t been perfectly willing to let us know what she thinks [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2304740', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2204862</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Pelosi stated we need talented people, language skills and Patriotic Americans in regards to General Pace.  Check out her bio next to General Pace.  Politicians are a dime a dozen.  This is America, freedom of speech, whether she agrees with General Pace or not, he has a right to his opinion like every other American!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Pelosi stated we need talented people, language skills and Patriotic Americans in regards to General Pace.  Check out her bio next to General Pace.  Politicians are a dime a dozen.  This is America, freedom of speech, whether she agrees with General Pace or not, he has a right to his opinion like every other American!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2204862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fay</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2196602</link>
		<dc:creator>Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gays and lesbians shed the same red blood as any of us.They die, are injured ,survive in one piece, are discharged or continue their careers in the military-not unlike all of us who have served in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and now Iraq and Afganistan. Keep moral judgements in your own pocket, Gen Pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gays and lesbians shed the same red blood as any of us.They die, are injured ,survive in one piece, are discharged or continue their careers in the military-not unlike all of us who have served in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and now Iraq and Afganistan. Keep moral judgements in your own pocket, Gen Pace.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2196602', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2186245</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when do we not need moral judgment from our leaders? Where would we be without the courageous moral leadership of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and others to overturn slavery and fight for civil rights for blacks in the US? 

In his 1963 &quot;Letter from a Birmingham Jail&quot; Rev. King wrote, &quot;A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law, or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.&quot; This week General Pace is drawing the same kind of moral conclusion as King as, it appears, he looks to God&#039;s moral law for guidance. We need this kind of leadership in a society where it is becoming far more common to follow our passions, rather than an established moral anchor. 

I&#039;m thankful for leaders like General Pace. If we succumb to Rep. Pelosi&#039;s call to abandon moral judgment, we will only drift steadily toward the tyranny of what feels good at the moment - in other words, anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when do we not need moral judgment from our leaders? Where would we be without the courageous moral leadership of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and others to overturn slavery and fight for civil rights for blacks in the US? </p>
<p>In his 1963 &#8220;Letter from a Birmingham Jail&#8221; Rev. King wrote, &#8220;A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law, or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.&#8221; This week General Pace is drawing the same kind of moral conclusion as King as, it appears, he looks to God&#8217;s moral law for guidance. We need this kind of leadership in a society where it is becoming far more common to follow our passions, rather than an established moral anchor. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thankful for leaders like General Pace. If we succumb to Rep. Pelosi&#8217;s call to abandon moral judgment, we will only drift steadily toward the tyranny of what feels good at the moment &#8211; in other words, anarchy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2186245', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Democrat Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democrat Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 - Don&#039;t mistake the trolls with the Progressive&#039;s.

The only &quot;movement&quot; the trolls know are ones that come from the bowel, and boy do they &quot;move&quot; all over the posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 &#8211; Don&#8217;t mistake the trolls with the Progressive&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The only &#8220;movement&#8221; the trolls know are ones that come from the bowel, and boy do they &#8220;move&#8221; all over the posts!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2185250', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Progressive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2183648</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... I am actually dumber for having stopped by here.  You &quot;thinkprogress&quot; folks are really moving the cause forward.  Well, done!

pathetic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I am actually dumber for having stopped by here.  You &#8220;thinkprogress&#8221; folks are really moving the cause forward.  Well, done!</p>
<p>pathetic<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2183648', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hell hath no fury &#171; The D-Ring: Where the military and new media collide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hell hath no fury &#171; The D-Ring: Where the military and new media collide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than a few bloggers (here, here, here, here and here just to name a few of the more prominent ones) are jumping up and down on the Chairman for his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; She didnâ€™t want you to feel badly riding the short busâ€¦..Sheâ€™s a dearâ€¦.and so patient with you! Comment by valiant venus â€” March 14, 2007 @ 1:17 am&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s not sarcasm, that&#039;s c*ntism Mighty Coulter wannabe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> She didnâ€™t want you to feel badly riding the short busâ€¦..Sheâ€™s a dearâ€¦.and so patient with you! Comment by valiant venus â€” March 14, 2007 @ 1:17 am</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not sarcasm, that&#8217;s c*ntism Mighty Coulter wannabe.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2182590', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2182479</link>
		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane - Your mom was being kind when she told you my posts were making you &quot;less intelligent&quot;.  She didn&#039;t want you to feel badly riding the short bus.....She&#039;s a dear....and &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; patient with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane &#8211; Your mom was being kind when she told you my posts were making you &#8220;less intelligent&#8221;.  She didn&#8217;t want you to feel badly riding the short bus&#8230;..She&#8217;s a dear&#8230;.and <em>so</em> patient with you!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2182479', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2182443</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding General Pace and his aversion to homosexuals:

Me thinks the LADY doth protest too much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding General Pace and his aversion to homosexuals:</p>
<p>Me thinks the LADY doth protest too much!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2182443', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by merciful mercury â€” March 13, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
Sorry #78 was for you but I was just being snotty about VV and forgot to reference it.  Just reading her posts is making me less intelligent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by merciful mercury â€” March 13, 2007 @ 7:20 pm<br />
Sorry #78 was for you but I was just being snotty about VV and forgot to reference it.  Just reading her posts is making me less intelligent.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2182441', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really interesting.  Unfortunately Valiant Venus is just full of SHIT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really interesting.  Unfortunately Valiant Venus is just full of SHIT.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2182427', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Funamoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Funamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOOKS LIKE Pace IS AIMING TO GET REPLACED BY THE QUEERS OF Bushland Uber Allies LED BY CHIMPya, Rove, Cheney, Gonzales, ET CETERA AD NAUSEUM!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOOKS LIKE Pace IS AIMING TO GET REPLACED BY THE QUEERS OF Bushland Uber Allies LED BY CHIMPya, Rove, Cheney, Gonzales, ET CETERA AD NAUSEUM!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2181785', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
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		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrongo, JPork.  I have on occasion been slightly sarcastic here at TP - but the &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; problem was the teensy little name hijacker with the vulgar tone.   Ifind the less I engage her, the less vile it becomes. 

The powers that be might have to yank his latest little snippet of originality.  Unlike you, TP, is not afraid of alternative opinions.  They don&#039;t like to point out the Dems positive agenda, but I&#039;m sure that&#039;s just around the corner.  

I visited the Kucinich site and I&#039;m surprised he has not gotten more traction - his positions seem right up the progressive alley.

I did enjoy having the SpeakeTTE take the &quot;high&quot; moral ground and let us know that anything goes.......a few of us suspected as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrongo, JPork.  I have on occasion been slightly sarcastic here at TP &#8211; but the <em>real</em> problem was the teensy little name hijacker with the vulgar tone.   Ifind the less I engage her, the less vile it becomes. </p>
<p>The powers that be might have to yank his latest little snippet of originality.  Unlike you, TP, is not afraid of alternative opinions.  They don&#8217;t like to point out the Dems positive agenda, but I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s just around the corner.  </p>
<p>I visited the Kucinich site and I&#8217;m surprised he has not gotten more traction &#8211; his positions seem right up the progressive alley.</p>
<p>I did enjoy having the SpeakeTTE take the &#8220;high&#8221; moral ground and let us know that anything goes&#8230;&#8230;.a few of us suspected as much.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2181723', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2181555</link>
		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51 &lt;em&gt;Thank goodness for strict censorship, TP!! (sarc off)&lt;/em&gt;

If TP was strict about censorship you would not be allowed back with a different name, MA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 <em>Thank goodness for strict censorship, TP!! (sarc off)</em></p>
<p>If TP was strict about censorship you would not be allowed back with a different name, MA.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2181555', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John Megivern</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2181353</link>
		<dc:creator>John Megivern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To read this so-called dialogue shows how far down the slope we are at home.  It is so silly.  Reminds me of high school girls fighting over boy friends.  Who cares?
   The general was out of line and should apologize, or go for retirement.  He has the goodies already for retirement, and it looks like he has company walking for the exit.  Has he any true plan for the troops?  NO!
 Have him go to Walter Reed and straighten out the moral problems there for practice.  He should take care of military business.  That is his job.  His comments are strictly personal, although he can affect multitudes of people&#039;s lives by his attitudes and actions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To read this so-called dialogue shows how far down the slope we are at home.  It is so silly.  Reminds me of high school girls fighting over boy friends.  Who cares?<br />
   The general was out of line and should apologize, or go for retirement.  He has the goodies already for retirement, and it looks like he has company walking for the exit.  Has he any true plan for the troops?  NO!<br />
 Have him go to Walter Reed and straighten out the moral problems there for practice.  He should take care of military business.  That is his job.  His comments are strictly personal, although he can affect multitudes of people&#8217;s lives by his attitudes and actions.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Archives &#187; You shouldn&#8217;t apologize for something if you don&#8217;t mean it.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Archives &#187; You shouldn&#8217;t apologize for something if you don&#8217;t mean it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speaker of the House, Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), said: I was disappointed in the moral judgment that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs made this morning, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Speaker of the House, Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), said: I was disappointed in the moral judgment that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs made this morning, [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2181262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do us all a favor valiant venus/ Might Aphrodite.  Crawl back into Ann Coulter&#039;s *ss - where you came from.  The stink in the room from your presence is putrid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do us all a favor valiant venus/ Might Aphrodite.  Crawl back into Ann Coulter&#8217;s *ss &#8211; where you came from.  The stink in the room from your presence is putrid.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2181199', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/13/pelosi-pace-homosexuality/comment-page-2/#comment-2181183</link>
		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Eargy - So Nanâ€™s supporting homosexuals and their defining behaviour is not a liberal â€œmoralâ€ judgmentâ€¦. (Pssst â€¦this question is purposely NOT complicatedâ€¦) Comment by valiant venus â€” March 13, 2007 @ 7:51 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Pssst...  Like you could ever ask a complicated question - BAH!

A st*pid quest - yep.  That&#039;s all a st*pid Anorexic c*nt like you could ever ask!

Allowing people to make their own choices without condemning this is a form of *morality* indeed.  One that an immoral and st*pid hateful venom filled c*nt like you wouldn&#039;t understand.  But it&#039;s the morality of not-judging.  It doesn&#039;t require you to *support* anything, except the rights of others to choose.

However your strawman proves that you support the rights of *bigots* to spew hatred and oppression against others.

Answer me this Might C*nt!  Have you always been a self loathing homophobe?  Or is it the result of you being so Skinny that you no longer get your monthly reminder that you&#039;re a woman?  Perhaps you&#039;re on your way to a more *manly* life?

Whatever it is, your self-loathing is appropriate.  You&#039;re a disgusting miserable st*pid c*NT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Eargy &#8211; So Nanâ€™s supporting homosexuals and their defining behaviour is not a liberal â€œmoralâ€ judgmentâ€¦. (Pssst â€¦this question is purposely NOT complicatedâ€¦) Comment by valiant venus â€” March 13, 2007 @ 7:51 pm</em></p>
<p>Pssst&#8230;  Like you could ever ask a complicated question &#8211; BAH!</p>
<p>A st*pid quest &#8211; yep.  That&#8217;s all a st*pid Anorexic c*nt like you could ever ask!</p>
<p>Allowing people to make their own choices without condemning this is a form of *morality* indeed.  One that an immoral and st*pid hateful venom filled c*nt like you wouldn&#8217;t understand.  But it&#8217;s the morality of not-judging.  It doesn&#8217;t require you to *support* anything, except the rights of others to choose.</p>
<p>However your strawman proves that you support the rights of *bigots* to spew hatred and oppression against others.</p>
<p>Answer me this Might C*nt!  Have you always been a self loathing homophobe?  Or is it the result of you being so Skinny that you no longer get your monthly reminder that you&#8217;re a woman?  Perhaps you&#8217;re on your way to a more *manly* life?</p>
<p>Whatever it is, your self-loathing is appropriate.  You&#8217;re a disgusting miserable st*pid c*NT!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2181183', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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