White House Signals It Will Fight To Block Rove Testimony
White House Signals It Will Fight To Block Rove Testimony
During a press briefing yesterday, presidential counselor Dan Bartlett signaled that the White House will fight congressional efforts to have Karl Rove testify about his role in the U.S. Attorney purge.
I find it highly unlikely that a member of the White House staff would testify publicly to these matters, but that doesn’t mean we won’t find other ways to try to share that information.
Press Secretary Tony Snow was also resistant:
Well, as you know, Ed, it has been traditional in all White Houses not to have staffers testify on Capitol Hill. So I think what we have been trying to do is to work in a way to be as forthcoming with members of Congress — you saw all the emails coming out today — give them all the information so that they can make a fair judgment about it.
Of course the White House doesn’t want Karl Rove to testify. Just last month, a top Justice Department official told Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in a letter that the “Department is not aware of Karl Rove playing any role in the decision to appoint [Rove ally Tim] Griffin” as U.S. Attorney in Arkansas. Now the White House acknowledges that Rove “served as a conduit for complaints about federal prosecutors.” In emails released yesterday, former Gonzales aide Kyle Sampson writes, “I know that getting [Griffin] appointed was important to Harriet, Karl, et cetera.” When a GOP chairman in New Mexico complained about a U.S. Attorney, Rove reportedly told him, “He’s gone.” And news reports indicate that Rove’s office may have been involved in problems involving the U.S. Attorney from Washington state, John McKay.
Thankfully, Senate Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VA) isn’t backing down. Last night on PBS, Leahy referred to Tim Griffin as Rove’s “acolyte,” and said he will “insist” that senior White House officials testify “in public, in sworn testimony, under oath“:
I intend to bring the attorney general up here. I am requesting several other people to come up here, certainly Mr. Sampson, Ms. Miers, I assume eventually Karl Rove. If they don’t come, then I’ll seek to subpoena them up here, because the story changes almost every time we pick up the newspaper. […]
What I want to find out is what happened, why we’ve been given different stories. And I want those answers, not in an informal briefing; I want those answers in public, in sworn testimony, under oath before my committee. As chairman, that’s what I insist.
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Indeed, tell the moonbat left to shove it!
“Somebody needs to ask Chuck Schumer a question: If a Democrat is elected president, say hypothetically Mrs. Clinton in 2008, are you telling us that she will not be free to fire any United States attorney because to do so would be political? Is that the standard now?”–Rush Limbaugh
March 14th, 2007 at 11:02 amGood work. The Congress is trying to have to much power. The President must stop them because the Constitution gives more power to the President. Congress needs to back off or Bush should just dissolve Congress until the War on Terror is over.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:04 amDo what should be done under these circustances. Impeach each official that has pprovided false information to Congress. Congress should also publicly call for the prosecution of other officials involved in providing false information and obstructing the Congressional investigation. Make it public. Make it loud. Then offer the White House an alternative - providing relevant staffers to testify.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:05 amI was hooting last night when Leahy said that. The tone of his voice is the one my boss, the principal uses when a kid is in major trouble. Karl is going to get a subpoena; apparently 6 years of running amok leads one to believe one will never be held accountable.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:06 amPat, ring their chimes!
March 14th, 2007 at 11:06 amThe Congress let Gonzales testify without being put under oath. That’s BS. Make Rove tell the truth and go to jail for the crimes he’s already committed or let him commit perjury and jail him for that.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:06 am“Senate Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VA)” should read D-VT
March 14th, 2007 at 11:07 amBlocking Karl Rove from testifying before Congressional committees is contempt of Congress and an impeachable offense. Rove is an unelected appointed official and must testify under oath, or be forced to resign, and be told to vacate his office in White House too.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:07 amSee firehead wants Congress disolved so Bush can rule as a emperor.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:09 amfirehead sez:
fireplug, does that brown shirt itch?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:11 amDan Bartlett said Gonzales has the full confidence of the prez. Anytime the mouthpiece comes out and starts talking about being 100% behind someone, you can say, ‘Buh-bye.’
Buh-bye, Alberto.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:14 amJay Randal
If I may quote myself: “If a president is granted all the power he needs to fight a war, what is to stop a president from starting a war to get all the power he wants?”
The Founding Fathers, certainly much more intelligent than firehead, saw this and put limits on the presidency with Constitutional checks and balances. So, why does firehead want the U.S. to be something other than the U.S.?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:15 amKarl Rove hired trolls are going crazy on all the blogs today. Rove is afraid he will be taken down and jailed too.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:17 amWell Hell,guess I won’t get to hot at the dem’s today after all….If the rep. house of thieves, lier’s and murderers continues to crumble at it’s present rate we may have Palosi as pres. before the holiday’s….By then the public will be well informed enough for the true poll number’s to be down to around 3% and she will be able to fire all the people she want’s because of the bill’s bull shit bush put through…Time to review all those signing statement’s…I think we have some huge winner’s here….Happy Holiday’s Madam President…Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 11:17 am#1: yet another idiotic straw-man question posed by the drug-addicted gasbag, Rush Limbaugh. Of course, any President may fire U.S attorneys. However, when their firing is not for performance reasons, but because those attorneys refused to make their prosecution decisions based on politics instead of on the law, then yes, those firings are wrong.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:17 amfirehead:
In addition to disbanding Congress, we need to eliminate the Internets and all media except Fox “News”, too.
Glorious Leader should not be distracted from his Righteous and Mysterious agenda! Praise be to Mammon!
March 14th, 2007 at 11:19 amPatrick1 sez:
Still don’t get it, do you, Patrick? It’s not surprising, since you seem to get your talking points directly from Rush.
The issue is not whether the President can arbitrarily dismiss U.S. Attorneys. He can. The U.S. Attorneys serve at the President’s pleasure.
The issue is that there is a provision in the PATRIOT Act that eliminates the requirement for Senate approval when the President appoints a replacement for the aformentioned position. This removes a vital check the legislative branch had on the President, greatly mitigating his ability to use his ability to arbitrarily dismiss U.S. attorneys and appoint replacements for partisan political ends.
In short, the President is not misusing his power to dismiss and appoint U.S. attorneys…he’s misusing the power the Patriot Act gives him to do it without oversight of any kind, for political gain, instead of fighting terrorism, as it was ostensibly supposed to do.
Do you get it now, Patrick? If you do, please call up Rushie and set him straight as well.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:19 am(good morning Sharon…:)
Re: post #11… Barlett called Alberto a “stand up guy”….. where and whom have we heard this description applied to before?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:21 amI think Rumsfeld for one…
………Bye Bye ‘Berto
More dull impotent rage. (yawn).
“Indeed, tell the moonbat left to shove it!”
“Somebody needs to ask Chuck Schumer a question: If a Democrat is elected president, say hypothetically Mrs. Clinton in 2008, are you telling us that she will not be free to fire any United States attorney because to do so would be political? Is that the standard now?â€â€“Rush Limbaugh
It’s too bad you poor Bushies can’t bottle any of that psychosis and actually use it to solve problems. Of course, it may help your case if the attorneys who are crying foul weren’t…. (drum roll, please)… republicans.
As for Limbaugh, he must be dipping his chubbies back in the pill bottle. The “standard” would return to what it has always been, under Clinton, Bush I, under Reagan. You can fire whomever you want, just not because they REFUSE to step-up the prosecution of your political enemies.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:23 amPost 12 PLC > firehead is a fascist, so he wants Bush to be a dictator or a emperor. Maybe firehead wants to be a sadistic concentration camp guard?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:23 amGonzo Gone?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:25 amFilm at 11:00
Who would have guessed the usual right wing troll suspects would advocate a move that brought Hitler to power?
-GSD
March 14th, 2007 at 11:25 amLets see Rush
Reagan (your Hero) fired all the attorneys when we took office
Bush Sr. did the same
Clinton as well
Oops, looks like DUMBya fired them all when he stole office
But in 06 he decided to fire the ones who would not help him fix the election.
I know FACTS are the enemy to the drug addicted ped, Rush, but this may make the CONservatives a more educated debator.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:26 amAnyway, firehead, I guess your question got answered.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:27 amI knew it. Rove has a problem with testifying in public. He fought like hell to keep from getting indicted in the CIA leak. All the more reason to get this SOB under oath.
Patrick & firehead,
March 14th, 2007 at 11:27 amWhy do you hate our Constitution so much? Why do you hate checks and balances? Why do you love dictatorships? Couldn’t you just go find a nice dictatorship somewhere else to live in?
Imagine how pathetic the Republican right has become? Relying on a three time divorced, known drug addict with an erectile dysfunction.
Ha, that is the mouthpiece of today’s Republican Party.
Talk about a morally corrupt bunch.
Imagine proudly repeating Limbaugh’s talking points in public? What kind of depraved loser would do that?
Oh yeah, TP trolls.
-GSD
March 14th, 2007 at 11:29 amBartlett should be questioned under oath about cleansing Bushs’ National Guard record,along with Karen (Bigfoot) Hughes and Joe (Flat head)Albaugh! Now that would be a hearing to wartch
March 14th, 2007 at 11:29 amSee firehead wants Congress disolved so Bush can rule as a emperor.
Comment by Jay Randal — March 14, 2007 @ 11:09
That’s because checks and balances is too many words for him to understand.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:30 amCaption contest….Rove is practsing for bush’s return.. Me bad/ no apolegy…..Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 11:31 amWhen did the repubs forget that they work for the citizens of the USA and when we ask them questions about how they are spending their work time (on our dime) they are required to tell us? This is an issue of open government and the ability of the citizens to know how the leaders are behaving.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:32 amJust some thoughts:
I am a teacher. I am also a teacher with a family. As such I am required to hold extra jobs in order to assure my family is not one of the unfortunate many middle class families that have lost their homes since the Bush administration came into being. You see I teach in Texas where they talk a good talk but they do not value public education, or educators. You know, Bush’s legacy!! Anyway, although I try to read TP every day and read the comments, I rarely have the time to actually post myself.
However, after reading a certain individuals posts for the past couple of days I could not help but take the time to comment. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who still have their heads firmly implanted up there asses when it comes to the Bush administration. They cannot forgive Bill for a blow job but they can forgive this lying, cheating, thieving, murdering current occupant of the White House and his equally lying, cheating, thieving, murdering crew. How is this even possible? How is it that people like Patrick exist? I mean, I don’t believe I have students with this low level of intelligence and I teach sophmores!
I would also like to comment that I have read many of hacker bobs comments and I have to say, as far as “trolls” go, you do not fit the mold. You often have well reasoned arguments and even a sense of humor. Are you sure you are a republican?
I hope you all have a terrific day. I look forward to reading many of your posts. Progressives have the best senses of humor. I guess we need to, we need to deal every day with this administration and their neocon followers!
March 14th, 2007 at 11:34 amWhat he meant;
March 14th, 2007 at 11:37 ambut that doesn’t mean we won’t find other ways to try to shaft that information.
Yay, Jules! Great to see you! We miss you.
hacker bob’s a good guy. :)
March 14th, 2007 at 11:39 amI’m glad you are not my kids teacher. The President as the authority period to remove anyone in the Executive Branch of the government for any reason. All U.S. Attornies are political appointments. If they were not quick enough in investigating corrupt Democrats then they should have been replaced. Apparently they had been on the job too long and forgot that their job was to investigate corruption.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:40 amCaption contest….Rove is practsing for bush’s return.. Me bad/ no apolegy…..Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Good one, Sharon. I was thinking along those lines, too.
He looks like a damned sucker fish, doesn’t he?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:41 amWelcome Jules, thank’s for joining in…..Good post….Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 11:41 amOff to work in my vegetable garden. Since the economy could collapse soon I will need the vegies produced in it.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:42 amSubpoena his ass, put him under oat and make him squirm like the snake he is. When he lies, throw his ass in jail. If he tells the truth (like he did to the Fitz in Plamegate) he’ll just confirm what we all know are our worst fears about Bushco for the whole world to see.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:42 amThat’s because checks and balances is too many words for him to understand.
Comment by Shane —
No, No.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:44 amChex and Balances is a Pattie’s breakfast cereal of choice.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SEEKS RESIGNATIONS FROM PROSECUTORS
By DAVID JOHNSTON
Special to The New York Times
1112 words
24 March 1993
The New York Times
Late Edition - Final
WASHINGTON, March 23 — Attorney General Janet Reno today demanded the prompt resignation of all United States Attorneys, leading the Federal prosecutor in the District of Columbia to suggest that the order could be tied to his long-running investigation of Representative Dan Rostenkowski, a crucial ally of President Clinton.
Jay B. Stephens, the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia, who is a Bush Administration holdover, said he had advised the Justice Department that he was within 30 days of making a “critical decision” in the Rostenkowski case when Ms. Reno directed him and other United States Attorneys to submit their resignations, effective in a matter of days.
While prosecutors are routinely replaced after a change in Administration, Ms. Reno’s order accelerated what had been expected to be a leisurely changeover. Says He Won’t Resist
At a news conference today only hours after one by Ms. Reno, Mr. Stephens said he would not resist the Attorney General’s move to force him from office, and he held back from directly accusing her of interfering with the Rostenkowski inquiry.
But Mr. Stephens left the strong impression that Ms. Reno’s actions might disrupt the investigation as he moved toward a decision on whether to seek charges against the Illinois Democrat, who is chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.
“This case has been conducted with integrity,” Mr. Stephens said, “and I trust the decisions in this case will not be made based on political considerations.”
Nonetheless, lawyers who have followed the investigation have said that Mr. Stephens has been concerned that the Democratic Administration might try to upset his investigation.
Has Denied Wrongdoing
Mr. Rostenkowski has repeatedly denied wrongdoing, and he has not been accused of any impropriety. But if he is indicted, he would be forced by House rules to relinquish his chairmanship, a development that some lawmakers have said could seriously jeopardize Mr. Clinton’s efforts to steer his economic and health-care proposals through Congress.
Mr. Stephens and his prosecutors began the investigation that led them to review Mr. Rostenkowski’s activities in mid-1991, focusing initially on low-level employees at the House post office who absconded with money. There have been several guilty pleas as prosecutors have worked their way up the ranks at the mailing operation.
Mr. Rostenkowski has been under scrutiny since last year, when his office records were subpoenaed in an inquiry into whether someone in his office used his expense account fraudulently to obtain cash from the post office. Since then, some of his aides have testified to a grand jury and investigators have examined his use of campaign funds. Denies Any Connection
In announcing her order at her first news conference as Attorney General, Ms. Reno denied there was any connection between her action and the Rostenkowski case and said Mr. Stephens had been treated like other United States Attorneys.
Ms. Reno said United States Attorneys “are absolutely integral to the whole success of the Department of Justice,” and her aides said today that she did not intend to immediately remove any whose presence was required to complete an investigation.
One official suggested that even Mr. Stephens might be asked to stay on until a successor is named, saying Ms. Reno had made no decisions about who she may choose on an interim basis.
All 93 United States Attorneys knew they would be asked to step down, since all are Republican holdovers, and 16 have resigned so far. But the process generally takes much longer and had usually been carried out without the involvement of the Attorney General. Battles of the Past
Ms. Reno is under pressure to assert her control over appointments at the Justice Department. She was Mr. Clinton’s third choice for Attorney General and arrived after most of the department’s senior positions were already filled by the White House.
The comments of Ms. Reno and Mr. Stephens evoked the pitched battles of the past, when independent United States Attorneys resisted removal by new administrations.
In 1969, for instance Robert Morgenthau, now the Manhattan District Attorney, resisted efforts by the Nixon Administration to replace him as United States Attorney in New York until he was given what he called an “ultimatum” by President Richard M. Nixon to leave office.
In 1978, Attorney General Griffin B. Bell removed David W. Marston as United States Attorney in Philadelphia, provoking charges, never proved, that a lawmaker under scrutiny by Mr. Marston’s office had urged President Jimmy Carter to remove the prosecutor.
Four-Year Terms
United States Attorneys are appointed to serve four-year terms at the pleasure of the President. It was unclear whether Ms. Reno initiated the request for resignations or whether it was pressed on her by the White House. The Attorney General said it was a “joint decision.”
Ms. Reno said she wanted the resignations “so that the U.S. Attorneys presently in position will know where they stand and that we can begin to build a team.”
Some Administration officials dismissed Mr. Stephens’s veiled assertions about the Attorney General’s motives as “absurd,” as one put it, saying that what was surprising was that it had taken so long before the Justice Department could begin putting its own appointees in place. Abortion Clinic Violence
On other topics, Ms. Reno said she would work with Democrats in Congress to prepare legislation to give Federal agencies a larger role in protecting abortion clinics.
Her comments came after she had ordered a review of current law, which she said was inadequate “to prevent or to help prevent physical interference with access to abortion clinics.”
She also ruled out a Federal inquiry into the death of Dr. David Gunn, a physician who was shot to death as he entered an abortion clinic in Pensacola, Fla., apparently by a man who said he was an anti-abortion activist. “Florida law on this subject is more effective than Federal law,” said Ms. Reno, a former Florida prosecutor.
Ms. Reno also said she had not decided whether to replace William S. Sessions, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who has been found to have violated ethics rules.
Photos: In her first news conference as Attorney General, Janet Reno said she had asked all United States Attorneys to offer their resignations. (pg. A1); Jay B. Stephens, United States Attorney in Washington, suggested that the move to replace all United States Attorneys might be tied to his investigation of Representative Dan Rostenkowski. (Jose R. Lopez/The New York Times) (pg. A17)
March 14th, 2007 at 11:46 amHey Jules! Welcome back.
I left full time teaching one quarter from getting tenured.
Was tired of taking four and five sections to make ends meet.
I still teach evenings and weekends because I really enjoy it, but couldn’t be my full gig, needed more retirement security.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:46 amBest of all to you and yours.
Caption:
“OHH.. give me a home,
March 14th, 2007 at 11:48 amwhere the billionaires roam,
where the oil and the cattlemen play…
with their high rise hotels,
and gushing oil wells,
they sit and count-out their money all day…”
(Bugs Bunny, “Home on the Range, Texas Style”)
Here’s what amazing to me: Even AFTER these attorney purges and riggings, they STILL went after the GOP operatives and GOP pols that where so corrupt, so in bed with the criminal elements, they could not be ignored.
Just imagine how many more GOP crooks we could have caught if the DOJ wasn’t tainted with the Rove firings and Bush’s buddies.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:50 am“He looks like a damned sucker fish, doesn’t he?”
Is that a Karp?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:50 amLady Zooey, I was thinking rove look’s like a little bloated guppie….Hope he keep’s up…..LOL….Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 11:51 amRaven ~
March 14th, 2007 at 11:52 amEither that or he’s readied to sing the “I’m a lumberjack” song…
I used to get really upset at the trolls. Stopped posting for a long time because it was too much negative energy. I’ve learned not to care what they say.
Patrick1, firehead…..bring on your best. I say that because your best doesn’t rise above 10 year olds. Can’t the Rovians throw better bots at us? Guess they keep the big money for the top administrators of the propaganda flacks and only divey out peanuts for the grunts on the blogs. Why does that approach not surprise me?
March 14th, 2007 at 11:53 am“f they were not quick enough in investigating corrupt Democrats then they should have been replaced. Apparently they had been on the job too long and forgot that their job was to investigate corruption.”
Ok, Mr. Troll, does the same go for “if they were not quick enough in investigating corrupt Republicans”? I think not. Since Bush has come into office, the US Attorneys have prosecuted something like 278 Democrats and 18 Republicans. Now, does that seem possible considering the fact that the conviction rate is something like 10 Republicans and 1 Democrat. The problem with the US Attorneys who were fired was not that they forgot that their job was to investigate corruption, it was that they didn’t follow the Bush doctrine to only prosecute Democrats.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amAgain, Patrick1, you are free to answer the question…
IF what you say is true, if the President is truly meant to have the power to fire fellow republican attorneys because they refuse (against their consciences, presumably) to step-up the prosecution of his personal political enemies, then why don’t they simply come out and say so, like you have?
Why all of the backtracking, half-assed apologies, and firing of expendable scapegoats?
Why do they feel the need to cover their asses, if their asses have the legal and moral hygiene that you claim?
Why isn’t Gonzales as smart as you are, Patrick1? Hell, boy. You should submit your resume now that they’ll need another chief of staff.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amWho would have guessed the usual right wing troll suspects would advocate a move that brought Hitler to power?
Comment by GSD
They think Hitler was a leftist.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amIs that a Karp?
Comment by JEP
Remora, of the order Perciformes and family Echeneidae.
Blech.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amP1, first of all quoting Rush will not win you any points here. That’s your shit sandwich to eat. Second, The president does have the authority to remove anyone in the Executive Branch. That in and of itself is not the issue so your rant is hollow. The problems lie with the undue influence the white house has had on the day to day operations of the AG and the flat out lying from Gonzo. It is also unusual for a sitting president to remove his own appointed personnel especially after good revues.
Gonzo said he would not be the wh lawyer but the country’s and he lied and continues to stumble.
This scares you so.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:55 amDING, DING, DING!
I think Raven at #42 is the winner of the Caption Contest today!
March 14th, 2007 at 11:55 amSomebody needs to ask all the neo-con and Republican bloviating hacks a simple question:
When a Democrat is President, will you ignore check & balances like you did druing Pres. Bush’s reign? Will you bend over and take a Presidential screwing from Pres. Hillary Clinton like you’ve proven you’re more than happy to get from Pres. Bush?
How about refusing to hold Pres. Obama responsible for anything he does, just like you’ve done for Pres. Bush? If Pres. Obama lies about reasons for war, you’ll all just say “Hey, it’s war time! Don’t you DARE question pres. Obama, traitor!”
Of course, all the trolls will completely ignore this question. Can’t address an issue that will end up biting you in the butt when a Democrat is elected, can you all? No, I didn’t think so.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:56 amThis should be no news,
But rather a bynotes under keyless articles,
Part of the wasted pages in the news.
There are no court of law,
that could ever judge these 7 blind muskeeters:
Bush, Cheney, Pearl, Snow, Rove, Rummy,
And Mud’Roach’.
Well, Iraq has been a failure so what?
Failures creat failures, or something worse.
The 7 blind men have performed greatly,
for they have failed where the devil succeeded.
Perhaps the fact has been laid bare to the blind men,
After they realized that the Elephant wasn’t a rope,
wasn’t a tree, not a wall, or an arrow.
Maybe the Empire bastion (Israel) in the oily world,
isn’t rightly located in the sweet spot.
Ah, we need the golden liquid, not more body bags,
the emperors are finally agreeing,
to a solution, that would wipe out any opposition.
Democracy is Occupation, we now know.
Where we plan new oil bills and law for another country,
And, yet taste for getting our pipes into the liquid -
gold mines of Iran also.
The terrorist want freedom, that what they fight and die for?
The Liberators wants to occupy and oil,
Thats what many of our boys get killed for -
Or, maybe its time we need a reverse definition,
of what these two want or represent.
Democrats.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:57 amRepublicans -
are all hosts for the vile virus -
called corruption.
Power, I think, took their little and last immunity away.
# 9. No I don’t want Bush to be an emperor. I want him to have all the power he needs, but only during the War on Terror, so we can win. Afterwards, he will give up his power and reinstate the Senate.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:57 amNope Jep, I think it is a big ass, big mouthed bass…..Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 11:57 amProgressives may “have a good sense of humour” - but they have no sense of loyalty, history or national defense.
Some take jobs they apply for and whine about the pay scale. But you are correct, Jules, in noting that teachers are not as respected as a group as they once were. This is sad - but should not be unexpected. The NEA, school administrators and their members have been so busy dumbing down American children (not correcting poor grammar, spelling, grade inflation, social promotions, etc.) and promoting their politics, it’s no wonder.
Unfortunately, too many of America’s “fifth column” comes from the teaching profession. A totalitarian dictator once noted that to control education was to control the country.
March 14th, 2007 at 11:58 amSomeone needs to make the ReichWingNuts take their medicine. WingNuts created this mess but don’t want to clean it up nor do they want to take the punishment.
… and here I thought the ReichWingTrolls were into punishment, retribution, command and control, kinky sex with underage boys, and “knew” that Jesus was happy with them…
March 14th, 2007 at 11:58 amZooey, Sharon and RUCerious - you all are such a pleasure to read every day. I never shut down until I can read one of your posts and smile. Zoo - I hope school is going well. I would love to go back….someday! Sharon, I wish I could be with you up in the great northwest where at least the majority of people have intelligence. RUCerious, I am sorry you had to leave education. I certainly understand that it pays squat but thankfully I have a great family that pitches in.
Patrick, you are still an idiot. I am equally happy your child is not my student because I can tell what kind of student he or she would be from reading your material. Doesn’t do homework, does not pay attention in class, does not study for tests or quizzes and then approaches me at the end of a 6 week term with a 45 average and ask what they can do to pass geometry. Well buddy, I will tell you what I tell them; build yourself a time machine, get in, go back 6 weeks and begin doing what you need to do to learn and pass geometry. In your case you will probably need to go back much further in time and actually listen in class because your education is obviously severely lacking.
You all have a wonderful day. It is spring break here and today and Friday are my only days off from my second job (my third is tutoring but that only happens when school is in session). I am going out to enjoy this day with my daughter.
Keep fighting the good fight. And remember, if all of the 30 percenters have as low an IQ as Patrick we have the WH in the bag in 08!!!
March 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm(taxonomy contest)
March 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm….or perhaps a lamprey eel?
I say screw tradition. Who cares that Clinton and most all other presidents didn’t allow staffers to testify. Bush should denounce that nasty practice and allow his underlings to testify. We only want the truth in this matter. We need to make sure they purged these attorney’s for poltical reasons like all other presidents did before Bush. I mean, if we found out they fired them for legitimate reasons, that would be a first in the last 14 years. I would jsut admit it if I was Gonzolaz and testify that these attorney’s were not following Bush orders so they were fired. This has been standard practice for the history of the USA. He needs to come out and admit it. He he doesn’t, this story could drag on 4 weeks or so. Admitting it, would kill it everywhere expect the far left blogs within a week.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:01 pm… thanks, Zooey…:)
March 14th, 2007 at 12:03 pmIt is not unusual for US Attornies to be removed. The average term is around two years. Senators are always bringing in new people to move up the ranks for future judgeships etc. These people had been around five or six years and apparently from the lack of prosecution of liberal corruption had retired on the job.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:04 pmNo I don’t want Bush to be an emperor. I want him to have all the power he needs, but only during the War on Terror, so we can win. Afterwards, he will give up his power and reinstate the Senate.
Comment by firehead
Dream on, fool.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:06 pmThat’s cool, Venus. You can just change the subject whenever you get called on any particular bit of nonsense that may slip like gruel from your brain down to your fingertips. Unfortunately, changing facts is harder than simply changing the subject.
As for your observation re. Progressive humor, we humbly accept it. But, the truth is, you make an easy target when the facts are so stubbornly aligned against you.
And here is the one little ol’ fact that keeps you and Patrick1 coming back to gnash your ivories: The attorneys who were fired were republicans. All republicans. R-E-P-U-B-L-C-A-N-S.
You Bushies not only do not speak for America, you don’t even speak for the Republican party any more.
Ohhhhh, that’s gotta hurt.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:08 pm….or perhaps a lamprey eel?
Comment by Raven
Ugh.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:08 pmRoger_Rhetoric sez:
Sometimes it it just plain incomprehensible how mindless some of these kool-aid drinkers can really be.
RR, please refer to my earlier post above for why this is so important, as I don’t have the patience to type it all out again for you.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:09 pmHe needs to come out and admit it. He he doesn’t, this story could drag on 4 weeks or so. Admitting it, would kill it everywhere expect the far left blogs within a week.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Terminally. Stupid.
You simply do not read, do you?
March 14th, 2007 at 12:10 pmAnd you don’t understand what you manage to read.
P1 seems not to realize that the “right” to do something does not mean something is automaticlly “right” to do. But, then, it seems the “right” does not get that concept, “right”?
March 14th, 2007 at 12:10 pmPatrick - if we wanted to know what the asshats on Fox had to say about it, we could just watch Fox. Why do you guys show up day after day, merely for the sake of repeating what some very publicly available source already says. It’s tedious as hell, and it’s dumb, and it gets you nothing but disrespect.
p.s. That tootsie-pop wrapper makes a great hat - stick with it.
dittoheads: keeping themselves safe from independent thought since 1980.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pmSince some people like to bring up Sandy Berger. Wasn’t he the National Security Advisor in the Executive Office of the President of the United States during Clinton and he was sworn in and testified to the 9/11 Commission.
Does this mean that there are times when White House staff do appear for testimony? Can anyone let me know if this train of thought is wrong in some way?
March 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pmPatrick1 sez:
Patrick, did you even read my earlier post on the subject?
Perhaps you should, so you can stop appearing like such a jacka$$.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:12 pmComment by valiant venus #58
It certainly worked on YOU!
March 14th, 2007 at 12:12 pmfirehead sez:
Exactly like Hitler did.
</snark>
(Yes, I know that I just Godwinned the thread, but it’s damned near unavoidable when one discusses the crimes of this runaway administration…)
March 14th, 2007 at 12:14 pmDo you get it now, Patrick? If you do, please call up Rushie and set him straight as well.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 14, 2007 @ 11:19 am
On the bright side, all this explaining you do for Peadick qualifies you to get a teaching certificate in any state for EARLY childhood education.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pmWe’ll all write you the necessary recommendations.
We owe you one.
No I don’t want Bush to be an emperor. I want him to have all the power he needs, but only during the War on Terror, so we can win. Afterwards, he will give up his power and reinstate the Senate.
Comment by firehead
And for the reich wingers the War on Terror will suddenly end when a Dem becomes president.
{stupid troll remark about a Dem becoming president….3…2…1…}
March 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pmAfterwards, he will give up his power and reinstate the Senate.
Comment by firehead
Yeah, that has happened before. Tool.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pmHi Sharon, how’s life?
on topic: Mr. Rove needs to be put under oath. I assume there will be an indictment five minutes after he had testified, either because he told the truth or because he didn’t. Catch 22!
Keep up the good work folks! For me it is amazing to see how the blogs (not the MSM, mind) are working this issue 7/24. How the ramifications are getting clearer with each post and how the pressure is growing on Congress to finally do something about this swamp of corruption. IMHO this is a sign for the strength of your democracy.
Hey firehead! Look at the power of the People’s will in November and now. Even disbanding Congress wouldn’t help Mr Bush and his few followers anymore. This democracy is very much alive. Try another time, another generation - admit defeat.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:17 pmBurglar was a former staffer. And as we now know was hiding things from the 9/11 Commission. Don’t believe that anyone from the corrupt Clinton years is someone you want to use as an example of anything.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:17 pmThe White House prosecutor purge is less about supposed voter fraud than carrying out the Republican strategy for suppressing the Democratic and independent vote. For the full story, see:
“The Link: Purging Prosecutors - and Voters.”
For the latest news, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
March 14th, 2007 at 12:19 pm“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
Patrick, when you give any credence to that infamous druggie and ALLEGEDLY shrewd political observer Rush “What Do You Mean Sherrod Brown’s White?” Limbaugh, you blow yourself right out of the water
Sorry, when the level of political ignorance from a supposed political commentator is that overwhelming, there’s no way anything Limbaugh says can ever overcome his stunning stupidity regarding Sherrod Brown’s race, which renders all Rush’s drug induced rants as moot points from the start
The REAL fifth column in this country are FOX News and it’s loyal viewers, not surprising since they worship an Administration made up of CIA Operative Outing traitors who enjoy treating the US troops like crap both on the battlefield and at home in recuperation
March 14th, 2007 at 12:23 pmComment by Jules — March 14, 2007 @ 11:34 am
GASP - you mean Bushie didn’t even improve education in Texas either. I’m shocked. See if he’d been allowed to privatize education the way he wanted to it have been handled by Halliburton and we could ship all the kids to Dubai and …
March 14th, 2007 at 12:23 pmPatrick1 sez:
dlet’s earlier comment is valid, Patrick. Sandy Berger was a White House staffer, and he was sworn in for testimony.
Debate the point, Patrick. I’m not going to let you dismiss it.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:25 pm#34 Patrick1
Apparently they had been on the job too long and forgot that their job was to investigate corruption.
That’s funny, Patrick. You’re a really funny guy. I guess you hadn’t noticed what Carol Lam, U.S. attorney from San Diego, was doing when they decided to can her. There’s an interesting timeline over at Talking Points Memo. It shows what was going on with her corruption investigations shortly before and up to the time that Kyle Sampson wrote in an e-mail about “the real problem we have right now with Carol Lam”. Check it out. It’s riveting.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013023.php
Let’s just say that she was ripping the lid off of “Hookergate”, exposing GOP congressmen and political appointees at the top of the CIA. Remember when and why Porter Goss resigned?
March 14th, 2007 at 12:25 pm25. I knew it. Rove has a problem with testifying in public
Comment by chimpeach — March 14, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Well I am surprised because Rove looks like the kind of guy who loves to expose himself in public.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:26 pmKarl Rove hired trolls are going crazy on all the blogs today. Rove is afraid he will be taken down and jailed too.
Comment by Jay Randal — March 14, 2007 @ 11:17 am
It started a few days ago. There were trolls here all day long intently focused on defending Rove. One can almost smell the desperation.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:26 pm“No I don’t want Bush to be an emperor. I want him to have all the power he needs, but only during the War on Terror, so we can win. Afterwards, he will give up his power and reinstate the Senate.
Comment by firehead — March 14, 2007 @ 11:57 am”
You really believe that someone is going to give up something after they have it????
Your INSANE! Thats like giving your kid the power to determine how much candy and sugar they can eat, and then when they are out of control trying to take that power back from them. They are not going to give it up without kicking and fighting.
I don’t want to give this BOZO any more power than what the CONSTITUTION provides, and he has already CRIMINALLY violated that.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:27 pmFat, pasty-faced white man speak with f*ed tongue.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:29 pmThat picture of Rove - remember Groupers are Mouth Breeders.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:30 pmThe White House lost its “executive privilege” claim when Sampson used his gwb43.com email address in some of the emails released by the DOJ.
I read yesterday by a TPM commenter that gwb43.com is OWNED BY THE RNC and is outside the government’s “document control”.
Can they get any more brazen?????????
March 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pmIf Alberto Gonzales held himself to the same rigid standards he claims to have for U.S. attorneys keeping their jobs, he’d have shitcanned himself a long time ago.
Or to put it another way, shouldn’t they have been allowed to stay at their jobs and ‘fix their mistakes’ as Gonzo is desperately begging us to let him do?
Shitcan him. Then try, convict, and incarcerate him.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pmNo I don’t want Bush to be an emperor. I want him to have all the power he needs, but only during the War on Terror, so we can win. Afterwards, he will give up his power and reinstate the Senate.
Comment by firehead — March 14, 2007 @ 11:57 am
Win what? Who are we fighting? Who will surrender? How will we know when we’ve won?
March 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pmAnd what will we have won? Are all the terrorists in Iraq now where we can get them all at one time?
I’ve been asking you this for days firehead but you keep refusing to answer.
Gonzales, fourth most wanted man in the Bush administration.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pmRemember back during the Cliniton administration when the biggest scandal was one man getting a bj…..ah….good times.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:40 pmThere was a recent estimate that about a third of troops returning from Iraq have mental problems and can’t get timely treatment. Are patrick1, firehead, roger-roger, and their fellow trolls some of these impaired troops passing time trolling this web site while they wait for treatment?
March 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pm58. Some take jobs they apply for and whine about the pay scale
Comment by valiant venus — March 14, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Bitch - don’t make me come over there and slap the shit out of you.
You sit there on your ass all day in your double wide trailor collecting your welfare check and talk about other peoples jobs and wages. Every neocon wants all social programs ended except the ones they get. How many do you collect. Public aid, medicaid, disability for some trumped up bs injury.
Do you even have kids? And if you do does Children and Family Services know how vile you are.
At the very least you should be locked up for aggravated mopery.
March 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pmGreat Doro, how about you.?…Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 12:51 pm“Afterward, he will give up his power and re-instate the Senate….”
March 14th, 2007 at 12:56 pm…the Roman’s tried this already…
Sharon, I’m fine and getting better every day. You must have hugged a very special tree for me, because I’m getting all the good vibes.
* Mr. Bush just showed his discontent with Mr.Gonzales.
* The House is going to repeal Executive Order 13233 and make presidential records available again.
Just fine I am. I like this news. Do I remember correctly whose presidential administration ended 14 years ago? Let the historians begin the digging!
March 14th, 2007 at 1:10 pm(taxonomy contest)
March 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pm…or a Jeff Gannon sucker.
Rove involvement ties directly to Abramoff scandal. In 2002, Abramoff was subpoenaed by USA in Guam. The next day he was demoted and informed not to pursue the investigation. Abramoff was such a GOP bigwig, however, he dirtied himself in other matters for which he is now serving jail time.
This story is about Karl used the DOJ to (1) turn a blind eye toward GOP excess, especailly those of Abramoff et al and (2) and somewhat less importantly, pursue W / GOP agenda which, naturally, involved investigating trumped up charges of minority voter fraud to enact stricter voter ID laws while at the same time making it easier to mail in your vote(s).
The focus needs to be on why certain USAs were fired (San Diego w/ Cunningham, Guam, NM, WA). That’s where things get interesting.
March 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmThe right-wing trolls who post on this site and others all scream that it is the President’s right to fire US Attorneys at will, and they are entirely correct. The truth they are missing is that the US Attorney’s serve at the pleasure of the President, but they DO NOT work for the President. They work for us, the taxpayers who pay their salaries. The same is true for the Attorney General.
So, trolls, answer this question truthfully:
If Clinton was still President and he started firing US Attorneys because they were investigating Democrats, or because they wouldn’t start an investigation of a Republican before an election, would you still say that nothing stinks. Would you still say that it was the right thing to do? Answer truthfully, if you can.
March 14th, 2007 at 1:24 pmWhile we are at it ,lest we forget, the legal ezzzzzze for bush, Harriet Myers..Her skirt like all the good old boy’s is not clean either…..Grrrrrrr….Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 1:28 pmFat, pasty-faced white man speak with f*ed tongue.
Comment by R
Um, forked — right? :-D
March 14th, 2007 at 1:34 pmDoro, Yep! A big ceder…Lot’s of good vibe’s…Blessings
March 14th, 2007 at 1:39 pm#66 - “The attorneys who were fired were republicans. All republicans. R-E-P-U-B-L-C-A-N-S. …”
So what. Painting with a broad brush makes you think you’re an artist? I don’t think so. Chuck Hagel claims to be a Republican. Your point is? Oh, that’s right - you didn’t make one…..
A clear example of Progressive “humour” is the attacks on Gonzalez, Rice, etc. (Only progressives are funny enough to throw Oreos, etc. HA!! If an “uppity” minority steps off the “librul” plantation, there’s hell to pay.
March 14th, 2007 at 1:46 pm“L’État, c’est moi.”
March 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pm-The Administration.
(Only progressives are funny enough to throw Oreos, etc. HA!! If an “uppity†minority steps off the “librul†plantation, there’s hell to pay.
Comment by valiant venus
mmmm…no. Still not funny.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:01 pmDo you even have kids?
Comment by Shane
Well, she had one. She tells joke about it.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWell, she had one. She tells joke about it.
Comment by Juan C
Ah yes, the imaginary dead child. Such a bitch….
March 14th, 2007 at 2:05 pm#95
Remember back during the Cliniton administration when the biggest scandal was one man getting a bj…..ah….good times.
Comment by erock
Hey if u elect Shrillary as presnut we can have those good ole times back.
Bubba can then have the ‘Lincoln Bedroom’ with all the interns he wants.
Heheehheheh!
March 14th, 2007 at 2:08 pmHey if u elect Shrillary as presnut we can have those good ole times back.
Bubba can then have the ‘Lincoln Bedroom’ with all the interns he wants.
Heheehheheh!
March 14th, 2007 at 2:12 pmDOING THE PEOPLES WORK AND BUBBA IS DOIN’ THE INTERNS.
Doro, Yep! A big ceder…Lot’s of good vibe’s…Blessings
Comment by Sharon — March 14, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
What size battery does that dildo take?
March 14th, 2007 at 2:15 pmLOL….More from the use to be M.A. troll…Geees, gang, she ..V.V. was outed as a 23 year old lier with a made up military history 3 kid’s, one died….a jew, a lawyer, huge family, very rich, bla, bla,/ what part of any of this made up junk can one believe..None..She’s a young cheerleader for the republican party and probably not even married…..Enough of the lies and playing like some rich person while sitting at your employer’s desk all day long on company time…I’ve read all the lies and it’s fake shit…..Made up high school junk….Be gone V.V.. Under the bridge with the other troll’s.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:18 pm#113 - And the economy will recover, and the rest of the world won’t hate us for invading countries based on lies, and the budget will be balanced.
Wow! What a cconcept!
March 14th, 2007 at 2:22 pmUnder the bridge with the other troll’s.
Comment by Sharon
Oh Sharon u made my day.
That is so cute when TPers say that “under the bridge…” thingie
March 14th, 2007 at 2:26 pmBe gone V.V..
Comment by Sharon — March 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
At least she doesn’t have 5 spelling mistakes per post.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI thought you loved everyone,Phony.
Flaco:
You’ll find that Sharon’s not the brightest bulb in the pack.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:37 pmThe clique likes to keep her around for head patting and to build up their and her self esteem.
So what. Painting with a broad brush makes you think you’re an artist? I don’t think so. Chuck Hagel claims to be a Republican. Your point is? Oh, that’s right - you didn’t make one…..
A clear example of Progressive “humour†is the attacks on Gonzalez, Rice, etc. (Only progressives are funny enough to throw Oreos, etc. HA!! If an “uppity†minority steps off the “librul†plantation, there’s hell to pay. Comment by valiant venus — March 14, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
You know, when you criticize others of painting with a broad brush, and the entire content of your post does just that. It just reminds everyone what a st*pid ignorant c*nt you are.
Keep up the *good-work*, while you keep confusing the names of those *uppity* minorities with terrorists! Fcuking st*pid c*nt.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:46 pmKarl Rove is a TRAITOR to the USA.
Abu Gonzales is a TRAITOR to the USA.
Dick Cheney is a TRAITOR to the USA.
George DUHbya Bush is a TRAITOR to the USA.
Try. Convict. Execute.
By a US Army firing squad made of soldiers permanently MAIMED and WOUNDED by the LIES of TRAITOR Bush.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:47 pmYou’ll find that Sharon’s not the brightest bulb in the pack.
The clique likes to keep her around for head patting and to build up their and her self esteem. Comment by flaco II — March 14, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
At least she’s turned on, you dum bass lights off idiot.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:47 pm# 114
Flaco
I knew it. When I wrote it, I knew it would come to this. Why are Republicans so obsessed with sex? Go get some.
And to all the other Flacos: Get going, you’re late for your Mensa meeting.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:48 pmFlaco is such a whiner.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:52 pmI’m sure someone has probably already pointed this out, but Pat Leahy respresents Vermont not Virginia.
March 14th, 2007 at 2:58 pmFlaco is such a whiner.
Comment by ForTruth
U take that back, that is not true,
Wahwaaaaa!
Sharon
March 14th, 2007 at 3:12 pmBlessings
#113 Flaco
Hey if u elect Shrillary as presnut we can have those good ole times back.
Bubba can then have the ‘Lincoln Bedroom’ with all the interns he wants.
Heheehheheh!
DOING THE PEOPLES WORK AND BUBBA IS DOIN’ THE INTERNS.
Oh no. Stop. Your cutdowns and zingers are wounding our fragile psyches.
March 14th, 2007 at 3:13 pm#124 ForTruth
Flaco is such a whiner.
Maybe if someone could explain to him what the topic is, he might be able to comment on it.
Not comment intelligibly, but it might make him feel like he was part of the discussion anyway.
March 14th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThanks chimpeach,
Mom said I only have 30 minutes more on the computer.
March 14th, 2007 at 3:38 pmI am so flattered to get all this attention today..Nope can’t spell, never said I could, nope not important to any but a few, not wealthy but doing well…And yet today I am getting all these mass responses from flakes (flacos)..Now how doe’s a sane old woman respond to a flake.? Let’s see, they either get soggie in milk or melt altogether in warm weather…..LOL….I send them Blessings and tell them to get some sunshine….I can’t fix stupid…
March 14th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#66 - “The attorneys who were fired were republicans. All republicans. R-E-P-U-B-L-C-A-N-S. …â€
So what. Painting with a broad brush makes you think you’re an artist? I don’t think so. Chuck Hagel claims to be a Republican. Your point is? Oh, that’s right - you didn’t make one…..
The point was clearly made. I will spell it out even more slowly for you, if you promise to lay down the pipe long enough pay attention: republicans scapegoated other republicans, and not just a few of them. Then the same republicans turned around and apologized. Oh, let me guess… you are like Jihadist Jake, you’re an “Independent”, not a republican. Who cares, the point is you are willing to eat your own. So don’t come here crying about the bad taste in your mouth, and how it’s the fault of “liberal lies.”
March 14th, 2007 at 3:53 pmcomments 7 and 125 already pointed this out, but I’m going to say it again (because the mistake still appears on the frontpage): Sen. Leahy is from Vermont. I know it’s only one letter away from VA, but that one letter represents 600 miles and a lot of politics.
March 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pmTHE white house CAN COMPLAIN and FIGHT ALL IT WANTS TO–ONCE THE SUBPOENAS ARE ISSUED, NON-COMPLIANCE IS NOT AN ALTERNATIVE–IT IS A FELONY PUNISHABLE BY IMPRISONMENT!!!! GET THAT FAT-F*CK Miss Piggy Rove FROG-MARCHED TO TESTIFY OR ELSE!!!!! HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!!
March 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pmKarl Rove-wanna-be and fellow disgustingly fat fcuk Chris Vance admitted he tried to get the US Attorney in Seattle fired, because they refused
to investigate Vance’s charges of “voter fraud” in the 2004 governor’s race.
Vance-TRAITOR to the USA
Rove-Vance-TRAITOR to the USA
Abu Gonzo-Vance-TRAITOR to the USA
Dick Cheney-Vance-TRAITOR to the USA
Beorge DUHBya Bush-Vance-TRAITOR to the USA
Try. Convict. Execute.
By a US Army firing squad made of soldiers who were permanently
March 14th, 2007 at 4:35 pmMAIMED and WOUNDED because of Bush’s LIES about Iraq and WMD’s.
Comment by Sharon — March 14, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Stuff your blessings,you mean phony bag.
March 14th, 2007 at 5:37 pm[…] Patrick Leahy (D-VT) blew off White House signals that Karl Rove and other senior Bush officials may resist testifying before Congress on the U.S. Attorney […]
March 14th, 2007 at 5:55 pmflaccido Jr, watch your ass.
March 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pmSharon is a real nice
Witch.
This is in response to Tony Snow’s comment:
“Well, as you know, Ed, it has been traditional in all White Houses not to have staffers testify on Capitol Hill.â€
Here is a list of White House staffers who have testified on Capitol Hill previously:
1) Alexander Butterfield, White House Aid, during Watergate hearings
2) John Dean, White House Counsel, during Watergate hearings
3) Alexander Haig, White House Chief of Staff, during Watergate hearings
4) James McCord, White House staffer, Ervin Committee Watergate hearings
5) Jeb Magruder, Whiter House staffer, Ervin Committee Watergate hearings
http://www.cyberessays.com/History/52.htm
During the Iran Contra hearings the following White House staffers testified:
1) Oliver North, National Security Council staffer
2) John Poindexter, National Security Adviser
3) Robert McFarlane, National Security Adviser
4) Elliot Abrams (Deputy Secretary of State, so not technically a White House Staffer)
The link for Elliot Abrams’ testimony is here: http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_25.htm
This is the short list.
Further comment by Tony Snow: “As you know, Ed, it has been traditional for the sun to rise in the west.â€
March 14th, 2007 at 7:41 pm[…] White House Signals It Will Fight To Block Rove Testimony […]
March 14th, 2007 at 7:42 pm#97 - “Bitch - don’t make me come over there and slap the shit out of you.”
Shane, you have such a way with words!! I wouldn’t want you to break a fingernail…..
Sharon - Your Mother Jones act might appeal to “the masses” but in reality, you are just an average old gal who made more than your fair share of bad choices and found out the consequences last beyond “I’m sorry” or “I didn’t mean to.”…..Oh well….
Zooooey - You and unbelievable call a truce yet?
March 14th, 2007 at 8:06 pm#131 - “Who cares, the point is you are willing to eat your own. So don’t come here crying about the bad taste in your mouth, and how it’s the fault of “liberal lies.†Comment by hypatia’s father
Eat our own?? You mean like the Hillary Machine is going after Obama?? There are plenty of Republicans I don’t like or agree with - Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee, Olmypia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, Newt Gingrich, Dan Burton, Pat Buchanan, etc. to name a few…
The Republican US Attorney who got justifiably dumped here in San Diego, did a great job prosecuting Duke Cunningham after the San Diego Union Tribune did most of the work for the prosecution. Anyone with an ounce of investigative skills could have successfully handled the case. Carol Lam was VERY soft on our regions BIGGEST problem - illegal immigration. She got bounced out of her job - good riddance…
March 14th, 2007 at 8:17 pmThis is in response to #40 by Patrick:
Rep. Dan Rostenkowski (D-Ill.) was indicted in 1994 on 17 felony charges, including the embezzlement of $695,000 in taxpayer and campaign funds. The longtime House Ways and Means chairman plea-bargained his way down to two counts of mail fraud and served 17 months in a Wisconsin minimum-security prison.
Kind of blows your whole conspiracy theory on Clinton/Reno out the water doens’t it?
March 14th, 2007 at 9:01 pmPorky the Porcine is calling you Valient…
March 14th, 2007 at 9:18 pmSharon - Your Mother Jones act might appeal to “the masses†but in reality, you are just an average old gal who made more than your fair share of bad choices and found out the consequences last beyond “I’m sorry†or “I didn’t mean to.â€â€¦..Oh well…. Comment by valiant venus — March 14, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
Aphrodite, Your Ann Coulter act might appeal to the CONs but in reality, you are just a miserable spoiled single Anorexic Princess who made more than your fair share of bad choices (often dietary) and found out that the consequences last beyond “oh well”, and decided to blame *everyone-else* to avoid your eating disorder.
Well the good news is dear, that eating disorders appear to be related to a genetic disorder, combined with bad parenting. So it’s not all your fault - although we know you love playing the victim to amp up your rage at the world!
Zooooey - You and unbelievable call a truce yet?
Comment by valiant venus — March 14, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
You and your mom call a truce yet? She must really hate the whole Anorexia thing!
March 14th, 2007 at 9:41 pmEat our own?? You mean like the Hillary Machine is going after Obama?? There are plenty of Republicans I don’t like or agree with - Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee, Olmypia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, Newt Gingrich, Dan Burton, Pat Buchanan, etc. to name a few… Comment by valiant venus — March 14, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Then it should be fun to watch the GOP “Eat your own” when Newt gets into the race!
The Republican US Attorney who got justifiably dumped here in San Diego, did a great job prosecuting Duke Cunningham after the San Diego Union Tribune did most of the work for the prosecution. Anyone with an ounce of investigative skills could have successfully handled the case. Carol Lam was VERY soft on our regions BIGGEST problem - illegal immigration. She got bounced out of her job - good riddance…
Comment by valiant venus — March 14, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Ah, the same old Ann C*nter lie. What would be good riddance is your skinny st*pid *ss moving on out of her.
Shoo little girl, you’re too st*pid, irrelevant, and uninformed to contribute anything here but sh*t.
March 14th, 2007 at 9:43 pm[…] concerns, though it does not seem this would be in the form of open hearings. The White House has made signs that it would not like to see Karl Rove testify under oath about the […]
March 15th, 2007 at 12:04 amI can’t believe how hard a few Right-wingnuts are fighting to preserve face during all of this. You guys must be feeling it too, the sense that we have all been betrayed and that even really contorted logic can’t hide the fact that what is going on is completely wrong and must be stopped. You can quote Rush and I’m sure that Jon Stewart’s nemessis (I forget his name, but he’s that guy on Fox) are working overtime to get the Political Right’s message out there, but it must be ringing pretty hollow even to those who are the most divorced from logic. I guess I’m asking a simple question, what does the rank and file republican get from all of this and don’t you guys feel just as betrayed as the rest of us do?
Grem-
March 15th, 2007 at 2:56 amThere are plenty of Republicans I don’t like or agree with - Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee…
Comment by Unvaliant Venus
I recall that, as Mighty Hypocrite, you were calling Chaffee a RINO (Republican in name only).
March 15th, 2007 at 7:20 am