Morons like Glenn Beck always view strong and intelligent women as “Bitches,” because they are intimidated. It says more about Beck, than it does about HRC.
Glenn’s a stereotypical misogynistic dick that’s afraid of women, especially powerful ones, unless they act like 12 year old boys (Ann Coulter) and protect them from the big mean liberals!
What a bunch of whiny little twits fill the ranks of the GOP!
The Bush/Coulter/Rove Republican Theme Attack is fleshing out just fine. Barack Obama is a terrorist. John Edwards is a faggot. Hillary Clinton is a bitch.
The scum is rising to the top as the bottom of the barrel is stirred-up.
Faggots and bitches. This new generation of conservatives is just all class, isn’t it?
(Jake, do you think that’s why Reagan’s crying on the cover of Time?–Or do you think these neocon youngsters are just finally saying what the old crop thought but had the horse-sense not to say?)
In any case, I figure Beck should rename his show in honor of the now canceled classic: “BACK-fire”.
Don’t fool yourself. This hateful speech is exactly why CNN hired Beck. And it will get worse, since whipping up the Republican base with increasingly shrill rhetoric is the only way to divert attention from massive corruption and ruinous policy failure.
So what? I’m a progressive, and I think she’s a bitch, too. An insincere, condescending, two-faced bitch.
“Let the conversation begin,” followed by a decree that anti-war voters can go find someone else, and that she’d keep troops in Iraq beyond 2009. B-i-t-c-h.
Senator Clinton to Glenn Beck: “HELLO, SON!!!!!”
AND CONTINUING: “HEY, Glenn, BY THE WAY, I FOUND YOUR REAL PARENTS BECAUSE I’M JUST YOUR FOSTER MOTHER–HERE’S $50, YOU SHOULD GET A MARRIAGE LICENSE FOR THEM SO YOU CAN BECOME LEGAL!!!!! AND IF THERE’S ANY CHANGE LEFT OVER, GET YOURSELF SOME CHEESE, YOU F*CKING RAT-BASTARD!!!!!”
You’re right, Raoul. And it works for Beck and the cable corporations because it consolidates viewer markets, and that equals bucks.
But… the polling is quite clear on this. For every single right-wing nutjob they pull in to watch Beck, O’Reilly, et al., they alienate at least one to two moderates (usually female). Now the nutjobs are and were going to vote republican anyway; but you have wonder about the discriminating moderate, eh? 2008, here we come.
This is the lesson that the Bushies have repeatedly failed to learn: he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.
Damn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs.
Comment by firehead
Damn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs. Comment by firehead — March 15, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
The main stream media is dead it just hasn’t woken up to the fact .Now that bushco and Faux news are falling out of favor with the public ,it’s CNN’s turn to run with the torch for fascisism .90% of all media in the US ,TV radio and print ,are owned by 6 companies. It’s just a matter of good cop ,bad cop.
DEMOCRACY NOW !
#3 – “Morons like Glenn Beck always view strong and intelligent women as “Bitches,†because they are intimidated. ” Comment by Zooey
Thank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’
Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated.
I too have some problems with Hillary. However, that’s NOT the point here. Having a CNN host say these blatantly rude things about the front-running Democratic candidate is absolutely absurd. It’s completely unprofessional!
Thank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Nothing can be *explained* to a st*pid c*nt like yourself.
I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’ Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
That would require you to be *strong*, and *intelligent*. All you do is *whine* and make *st*pid* remarks.
Zooey, now she’s a strong, and smart woman. Heck she’s even called me to the carpet, lashed me around, and I still don’t think she’s a b*tch. Just the opposite in fact.
You however, the term b*tch is where you wake up in the morning, the term c*nt is where you st*pid miserable *ss ends up every day.
And dear c*nt, who’s stalking who? You’re the one chasing the progressives to *our* turf – st*pid c*nt.
Damn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs.
Comment by firehead
Firehead must have been being sarcastic. Right, Firehead?
Thank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’
Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated.
Comment by valiant venus
How you love to compliment yourself, Haggie.
Your nemesis, as you so quaintly call him, isn’t intimidated by anything so insignificant as yourself.
Not one of the Republican enabler’s inflammatory insults is off the cuff. He sets of his little preplanned word bomb and then immediately backs off like he’s chagrined at his own scumbag self.
Republican Dreck: “I’m sorry for being such a pig. But please, America. Please. I don’t think I could do it for four years. I mean, sure the country is going to go to hell in a handbasket, but could we make this about me for a second? I just don’t think I could take it from her.” He also said that “there is a range in women’s voices that experts say is just the chalk, I mean, the fingernails on the blackboard.”
He’s just doing his best Republican Coulter. And he’s not changing anyone’s mind. Anybody who appreciates what he does already thinks like he does and is pretty much irredeemable. They were there before Republican Dreck showed up and they’ll be there when he’s gone.
He strokes his schtick to offend and inflame. And it works like a charm. Republican Dreck is like Springer except he’s both the circus master and the farting bear on a bike. And when he farts, his crowd roars with laughter and approval. Inside, it seems like a big show. From outside, it’s just a tent full of idiots in a giant parking lot.
If CNN and ABC stopped getting tons of appalled attention from Republican Dreck, he would soon be useless to them. They’d be pissed if he went soft. Really, the more completely every one of the insult pigs could be ignored and just pigonholed as the self contrived hatemongers that they are, the sooner they could be lumped in someone like David “White Power” Duke and just classified as a unabashed and predicatable hater.
Would CNN and ABC give David “White Power” Duke a show? I doubt it though it may have crossed their minds. David “White Power” Duke is defined. He’s accepted for what he is on all sides. And the sooner that his hating brethern and sistern like Republican Dreck, Republican Coulter, Republican Savage and Republican Malkin are tarred with the exact same brush, the easier it will be to isolate them and their hate filled audience.
How you love to compliment yourself, Haggie.
Your nemesis, as you so quaintly call him, isn’t intimidated by anything so insignificant as yourself.
Tell us a joke about your dead baby.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Ok, now THAT is a strong woman. Did I tell you how much I admire you strength and determination? ;)
Thank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’
Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated.
Zooooey – It would be difficult to repeat that which I never did. Your mis-characterization is a lie – but I find the truth is subjective when dealing with morally nimble progressives. Speaking of *strong* womyn, have you and unbelievable called a truce yet? Or are you both parsing the words of the cease-fire.
Zooooey – It would be difficult to repeat that which I never did. Your mis-characterization is a lie – but I find the truth is subjective when dealing with morally nimble progressives. Speaking of *strong* womyn, have you and unbelievable called a truce yet? Or are you both parsing the words of the cease-fire.
Comment by valiant venus
No matter how many times you deny it, Haggie, you still did it. In the unlikely and unfortunate event that you are a parent, you redefine coldness.
Any issues that may remain between unbelievable and myself is exactly that — between us. Thanks for faking your concern. I’m sure that’s something you do often — faking it, that is.
Zooooey – It would be difficult to repeat that which I never did. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Lying for you is a *compulsion*. So now you lie, about the children you lied about before, when you make jokes about them.
You’re a miserable freak.
Your mis-characterization is a lie – but I find the truth is subjective when dealing with morally nimble progressives. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Project much? The only time you confront a *moral* or *truthful* moment – is when we slap you upside your Anorexic lying head with one. You st*pid c*nt.
Speaking of *strong* womyn, have you and unbelievable called a truce yet? Or are you both parsing the words of the cease-fire. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Meddling in the *personal* affair of others again? Now this is the kind of *nimble* morality that you exhibit that makes people call you a hate filled hypocritical c*nt.
You’re welcome for our concern – eat a tic-tac b*tch.
Zoooey – As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledge – the story was about one of my sweet surviving children being kind to their mom. Who knows, maybe that is a difficult relationship for you to understand.
“Coldness as a parent” – I think YOU defined it well (and project ALOT) when you couldn’t get your kid packed off to school fast enough. What? – 48 hrs. too long with one of your offspring. “The kid” probably had enough…..
“Faking concern”? I’m ashamed to admit it, Unbelievable’s cat fight with you was the best laugh I’d had in two or three hours…
“Morons like Glenn Beck always view strong and intelligent women as “Bitches,†because they are intimidated. It says more about Beck, than it does about HRC.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 9:02 pm”
You state Beck is a moron. How about telling us why? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me?
“Glenn’s a stereotypical misogynistic dick that’s afraid of women, especially powerful ones, unless they act like 12 year old boys (Ann Coulter) and protect them from the big mean liberals!
What a bunch of whiny little twits fill the ranks of the GOP!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 9:06 pm”
What a bunch of scared little liberals who resort to name calling and call it debate! Valiant, you and zooey are the queens of childishness!
#52 Michael, you have never, in the many months you have been here, made an actual point. You do nothing but inject your personal view into the post. You have never presented one fact. No you attack those that have??? Grow up.
Zoooey – As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledge – the story was about one of my sweet surviving children being kind to their mom. Who knows, maybe that is a difficult relationship for you to understand.
As you well know and refuse to understand, Haggie, is that I know you don’t have ANY children. No parent could tell a story like you told, in the tone you told it, and USE her surviving child in such a manner. It would simply be too devastating. Give it a rest.
“Coldness as a parent†– I think YOU defined it well (and project ALOT) when you couldn’t get your kid packed off to school fast enough. What? – 48 hrs. too long with one of your offspring. “The kid†probably had enough…..
Darling, what you might someday understand — when you have children — is that when they grow up and move forward with their lives, they apprecate their independence, and so do I.
I completely understand that you don’t understand affectionate humor between a loving mother and son.
“Faking concern� I’m ashamed to admit it, Unbelievable’s cat fight with you was the best laugh I’d had in two or three hours…
Comment by valiant venus
Thanks for confirming that your concern was fake. It’s cute that your characterize a miscommunication as a “cat fight.”
Self-hating women are not attractive, Haggie. But you know that about yourself already.
What a bunch of scared little liberals who resort to name calling and call it debate! Valiant, you and zooey are the queens of childishness! Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
What a scared little conservative who resorts to avoiding debates! michael you are the *queen* of childishness! Tell me grandpa, is that how you avoided Vietnam? Servicing the General in return for your under the desk service?
You state Beck is a moron. How about telling us why? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me? Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
You request explanation for why Beck is a moron? How about explaining why you’re such a big moron that you need that explanation? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me? St*pid old puke.
Zoooey – As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledge – the story was about one of my sweet surviving children being kind to their mom. Who knows, maybe that is a difficult relationship for you to understand. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledged, you made a tasteless joke associating the death of your child as being as bad as a *Democrat*.
That’s disgusting, perverted and *disturbed* you hateful old c*nt!
“Coldness as a parent†– I think YOU defined it well (and project ALOT) when you couldn’t get your kid packed off to school fast enough. What? – 48 hrs. too long with one of your offspring. “The kid†probably had enough….. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Says the 23 year old *barren* Anorexic. You’re a could heartless c*nt!
“Faking concern� I’m ashamed to admit it, Unbelievable’s cat fight with you was the best laugh I’d had in two or three hours…
Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Laughing at the *distress* of others. That’s why people call you a *cold* and *heartless-b*tch*. And appropriately so!
Me, I just just chalk it up to the same mental illness that causes your eating disorder, and psycho-sexual confusion. You can’t help being a st*pid c*nt – you’re *defective*. That’s why you always cry *victim* – like you just did with Zooey! Miserable little c*nt!
#18 Clinton isn’t against the war at all. I think she is very clear on this point.
Lets review so recent Hillary Quotes to clear up her stance on Iraq going forward:
“There are remaining vital national security interests in Iraq that would require a continuing deployment of American troops.â€
“The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda. It is right in the heart of the oil region and it is directly in opposition to our interests, to Israel’s interests.â€
“Coalition capabilities, including keeping force levels stable, keeping resources and operations stable, remain an essential stabilizing element in Iraq.â€
These days, that is as pro Iraq war as it comes in my book. It is amazing that a pro war canidate is leading the polls for the Dem party however. Furthermore, it floors me that TP supports her so much. I understand this site is all funded by Clinton buddies and all, but how can they put up an anti war post right next to pro HIllary posts over and over? The hypocracy is very clear on this one. In that same interview she even went on to state she would leave at least 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly. Maybe the Dem party is switching to a pro Iraq war policy. I mean, they are voting yes to extend the war with all the money Bush is asking for (like $100 billion).
Roger_Roger, move along you old coward. Hillary said we should reduce the troops – and focus only on Al Qaeda related activities. Like your *opinion* or *disinformation* is anything more than a swiftboat. Just because all of your friends are as deranged and retarded as you are, don’t think we are *sshole!
Tell me Roger_Roger – why do you hate america so much, and support the Terrorists? Are you another one of those Terrorist sympathizers that donates to the GOP?
Mind you, I have some doubts in my own mind whether Hillary is truly in total control of herself…but considering that many neoconservatives like Beck seem to think that women should stick to “kinder, kuche, and kirche”, “bitch” isn’t quite the insult that Beck thinks it is. Personally, if my only choices are being a bitch or being a doormat, then I don’t even have to think about it…I’ll very gladly be a bitch!
Hilary is obviously pandering to the AIPAC money. And it is bizarre that Dems and TP would basically support her nebulous talk-tough militaristic strategy, in light of what is really happening in Iraq as described by someone who is actually there – Patrick Cockburn is living in a Shia neighborhood and he describes the descent into civil war. What a fantasy world Hilary and the rest live in up there on Capital Hill.
“Baghdad has broken up into a dozen different cities at war with each other. Walls are covered with slogans in black paint saying “Death to Spies”. Any Shia caught in a Sunni district will be killed as a spy or because of his religion and vice versa. Each side has its checkpoints where armed men in civilian clothes casually ask drivers for their identity cards. They wave to one side those they suspect of being of the opposite religion who are then interrogated, tortured and killed. The checkpoints are difficult to avoid because they suddenly spring up without any advance warning. Some 30 to 50 bodies, often mutilated, are picked by the police every day.”
A Dozen Different Cities at War with Each Other
Baghdad Under Surge
By PATRICK COCKBURN http://www.counterpunch.org/
#65 YOur right, Hillary did say we should reduce the troops. She is proposing keeping 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly to secure the Oil and look out for Isreals interests as well. Her words, not mine.
#67 This is HIllary country. No site supports Hillary more then TP. The hypocracy is amazing from TP on this one seeing as though they claim to be against the war and for Hillary. How do you square that one?
#65 YOur right, Hillary did say we should reduce the troops. She is proposing keeping 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly to secure the Oil and look out for Isreals interests as well. Her words, not mine.
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Neither of which involves the *peacekeeping* missions destroying our troops. I’m personally not thrilled by this path – but compared to you NeoNazi fcuking losers – it’s a huge step forward!
Roger, were you always a prissy little b*tch? Or did you develop that trait with your senility?
Honestly, if I was so hardcore “paid” righty guy, I should be supporting HIllary and begging you folks to nominate her. She getting nominated is the best chance the repugs have for winning in 08′. Her name on the ticket would bring out the conservatives in droves and keep many libs at home on election day. In reality, I would like a chance to vote for Obama or Gore if he runs. Just enjoy informing you all to the real Hillary, the pro Iraq war HIllary.
It’s what I said on this site several years ago – the Clinton’s are imperialists, just a different school of imperialists from the Bush’s, but imperialists none the less. Imperialists who smile and tell jokes as they take your resources.
#67 This is HIllary country. No site supports Hillary more then TP. The hypocracy is amazing from TP on this one seeing as though they claim to be against the war and for Hillary. How do you square that one? Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Support, or won’t *smear*? You can’t even *spell* the word *hypocrisy*, WTF do you believe you know what the words mean? You’re st*pid j*ck*ass smearing fool that no one believes, likes, listens to or cares whether you exist or not.
Do us all a favor, and STFU and sit in the corner like the *dunce* you are. Ok sport?
I lived through the gung-ho pro-war Lyndon Johnson who threw young soldiers into the killing fields with wild abandon, all the while expressing extreme angst, but never once stopping the killing machine. No, he kept it going for five long years. Finally after wasting countless lives and slaughtering millions of Vietnamese and failing to change anything, he gave up the ghost and did not seek re-election, and then we got Nixon, the madman.
Personally, if my only choices are being a bitch or being a doormat, then I don’t even have to think about it…I’ll very gladly be a bitch!
Comment by Bluestocking
Honestly, if I was so hardcore “paid†righty guy, I should be supporting HIllary and begging you folks to nominate her. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Do you think we *care* what st*pid motivation you do or don’t have? Everyone here thinks you’re a blabbering fool! We don’t give a sh*t what you think, believe, feel or want. Why is that so hard for you to understand, you retarded old goat?
She getting nominated is the best chance the repugs have for winning in 08′. Her name on the ticket would bring out the conservatives in droves and keep many libs at home on election day. In reality, I would like a chance to vote for Obama or Gore if he runs. Just enjoy informing you all to the real Hillary, the pro Iraq war HIllary. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Yeah, just like your *predictions* that the CONs were going to win big in November?
You’re a complete *moron*. You can’t think, predict, describe, analyze or discuss.
You’re more useless than the sh*t in your diapers right now. Get it?
#70 K, I am all with you on this one. Hillary is a warmongering righty. Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
The last 6 years demonstrates what war mongering is about. The Clintons don’t compare to that. You can say it’s degrees, or not – but sorry, the Righties are off the scale! No comparison! Bush is warmongering. There’s a new country on the radar to bomb every month. Hillary is not equivalent to this.
#71 You haven’t been to KOS, have you? I guarantee you if you took a poll she would be under 10% here. Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Last time I looked, she was at 3%. Edwards was in the lead with 38%.
VVGU, it IS degrees. Hill is promising to be no better than GW. She promised to keep troops in Iraq if she were elected. She is a Bush. Screw the Clintons. They need to go.
Valiant Venus
You need to sit this one out and let the adults talk. You don’t have a clue when it comes to war mongering. Hilary has all the makings of a war monger, and the Dems have presided of many of the major wars. So just cool it. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
Hilary is a real problem when it comes to her position on Iraq. Her position is just like Bush’s. She’s trying to out Bush Bush. ANd this country just cannot afford that kind of game anymore. Too many lives are at stake. My son’s life for one.
I want one Dem candidate, or one damn candidate, to come out and clearly unequivocally state – withdraw the troops immediately, stop the funding now. That’s the one i will vote for.
Damn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him
Comment by firehead
You call one of us a Bitch you’re calling all of us a Bitch.
Don’t make me call your mother Firehead.
One more post like this and I’m going to have her kick your ass.
Oh, ValianVenus is your mother isn’t she? I could tell because you too look alike in print. Wait until she finds out about the bitch thing.
VVGU, it IS degrees. Hill is promising to be no better than GW. She promised to keep troops in Iraq if she were elected. She is a Bush. Screw the Clintons. They need to go. Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
That’s where we disagree, she is better. She’s already pointed to setting an appropriate *scope* of the mission, and reducing troop levels. She isn’t Bush, and that kind of over the top rhetoric is not productive. It’s like when all of the Nader whacks claimed that Bush and Gore would be the *same*. It’s utter b*llsh*t.
Michael – If you disagree with a Leftist position – you are thought to be an idiot by a “tolerant” Leftist – a true oxymoron if there ever was one. Most (not all!) are defined by some. or all of the following: their hatred for conservatives, their envy of others, their guilt at their good-fortune, their sympathy for our enemies and the loathing they have for their country. They would willingly give up their American citizenship to be a member of the UN Global Community. They care not that most UN programs are highly unsuccessful – forget results, it’s the thought that counts. They have an ignorantly mistaken notion that our enemies can be appeased and “peace” achieved. The ONLY religion they worry about “offending” is Islam.
They clamor to impose higher tax rates – let them pay as much as they want in taxes. They make sociological and psychological excuses for evil and blame “society” for bad personal choices. So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
#89 You are right Roger, the base doesn’t want her. That puts the lie to the Republicans saying that the Dems are always playing to the base. They never do.
#95 I can’t stand Giulliani but he seems to be left of Hill. I can’t guarantee I wouldn’t vote for him over that triangulating succubus. Actually, I would stay home.
This discussion kind of reminds me of 1969 and 70. After work I would walk uptown in Manhattan to Rockefeller Center. There along Fifth Avenue, office workers would gather and discuss the war in small clumps. You could walk from one group to the next and voice your opinion. The war was getting worse, it had already been going on for 5 or 6 years full blast. And the middle class professionals were starting to get revolutionized.
THis time now reminds me of that time. The middle class professionals are starting to wake up and realize it’s up to them to stop this thing.
Valiant Venus You need to sit this one out and let the adults talk. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
And what will *you* be doing, when the adults talk?
You don’t have a clue when it comes to war mongering. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
I have tons of clues – I’ll spare a few for you, as you appear to be in greater need.
Hilary has all the makings of a war monger, and the Dems have presided of many of the major wars. So just cool it. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
Presiding over *wars* is not the same as war mongering – that’s your *first* clue. Bush and company are constantly trying to pick a fight – no, and I do mean *no* Democratic administration has been war mongering in this fashion. So just cool it. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about! Let me guess, you’re one of those *geniuses* that supported Nader for President, and claimed the Dems and Repugs were the same. Get a clue indeed! You need as many as you can get!
Hilary is a real problem when it comes to her position on Iraq. Her position is just like Bush’s. She’s trying to out Bush Bush. ANd this country just cannot afford that kind of game anymore. Too many lives are at stake. My son’s life for one. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
That’s where you’re wrong. The position she’s taken is in line with the ISG, a position that Bush won’t follow. I feel sorry for the risk of your son – but your claims are as much of a swiftboat as any GOPer. Get a clue!
“No, she is not the anti-war candidate and she will never get the liberal vote.” Comment by JPark
Wanna bet? The Left will vote for Hillary because they will NEVER vote for a Republican. I think Ralph Nader has the DLC nervous – but I don’t think Progressives and Socialists are stupid enough to vote for him again – everytime I see Ralph”the Spoiler” on TV, I always say, “Thanks, Ralph!!”
I’m sure that’s something you do often — faking it, that is.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Zooey you are way too generous. How would VenerealVenus ever find somebody to fake it with. I believe she has dreams about faking it since actual men are way outside her realm of possibilities. I told her to stop taking guy advice from Ann Coulter but she just won’t listen.
I think what disturbs me the most these days is watching dem canidates always act more like conservatives to get elected while we watch repugs always try to act more like a lib to get elected. What happened to people actually having opinions and standing up for them? Currently, all they do is taste the political wind and say what they hope the audience in front of them wants to hear. It is just so sad that even some here seem to be ok with that. Hillary and McCain are the 2 worst. Either one could easily be mistaken for a Dem or a Repug depending on their audience.
Guiliani – no you don’t want to vote for him. For one thing, he’s in such deep denial it’s a tragedy. While he was mayor, he was divorcing his wife who was still living in Gracie Mansion, the Mayor’s mansion with their children, while Guiliani had his girlfriend living with him at the other end of Gracie Mansion.
I can’t tell you how sickening that was, not that he was getting divorced, but that he had no respect for his family. And he claims to uphold family values.
What a bunch of scared little liberals who resort to name calling and call it debate! Valiant, you and zooey are the queens of childishness!
Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
Okay macho man why aren’t you in Iraq. You trolls are so fond of war as long as somebody else is fighting it. Sign up. They’ll take somebody as stupid as you now that they’ve lowered their standards.
Roger_Roger
YOu have only to study Lyndon Johnson’s tenure in office to understand what is happening now. If Hilary gets elected it will be deja vu all over again. The Dems that Hilary is beholden to are war dems attached at the hip to the military industrial complex and the belief that Americans are wiser, kinder and gentler than the rest of the world, so who better to invade other countries and set them straight.
“#52 Michael, you have never, in the many months you have been here, made an actual point. You do nothing but inject your personal view into the post. You have never presented one fact. No you attack those that have??? Grow up.
Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:10 pm”
I’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy! You make dumb comments like zooey and valiant and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. 95% of the time, you CAN’T!
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
Roger-1
I know this is confusing for you but Hillary hasn’t been nominated yet. If people here want to vote for her they are entitled to. It isn’t any of your effing business. Why don’t you worry about that great pack of candidates you have to pick from. You seem like the kind of guy who’d like the cross-dressing type – yep you’re a Guiliani man no doubt.
When we want your opinion on who to vote for we’ll ask but for now why don’t you just eat shit and bark at the moon.
“What a scared little conservative who resorts to avoiding debates! michael you are the *queen* of childishness! Tell me grandpa, is that how you avoided Vietnam? Servicing the General in return for your under the desk service?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:14 pm”
I’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy! You make dumb comments like zooey and valiant and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. 95% of the time, you CAN’T!
I see why valiant venus is a big backer of yours. You say stupid crap and expect people to debunk you when your points are retarded. Ok, debunk this, Bush had sex with 43% of the Republican Senate. See? You cannot prove me wrong but it doesn’t make me any less of a moron for saying it. Try some facts, bitch.
“You request explanation for why Beck is a moron? How about explaining why you’re such a big moron that you need that explanation? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me? St*pid old puke.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:16 pm”
Do you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look with a response like that? You make it so easy for me!
I’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:05 am
That’s good, because you’re too st*pid to know any facts. As for *exposing* idiocy, without facts, all you do is expose your own idiocy!
;)
You make dumb comments like zooey and valiant and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. 95% of the time, you CAN’T!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:05 am
You make dumb comments, and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. But 100% of the time, you CAN’T!
What should we expect from the brain damage of you hitting your head on the desk hiding from your duty in Vietnam. A coward like you is never going to be *right* again! Dum bass! HEHEHE
They make sociological and psychological excuses for evil and blame “society†for bad personal choices. So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
Comment by valiant venus
Wow. Project much? This from a self-hating woman. Wow.
Do you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look with a response like that? You make it so easy for me!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Do you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look every time you post? You make it so easy for me!
“If you don’t know why Beck is a moron, there is no help for you, Chiam Yankel.
Did I think I would get away with making that statement with you?
Hmmmm, since I don’t give a flying f*ck what you think, say or do about anything, I’d say the answer is…..I DON’T CARE.
Run away, Michael! It’s debate time! You know what it is, and it ain’t about Kerry.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 11:17 pm”
Well here it is for all you liberals to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and zooey doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you liberal losers!
This is HIllary country. No site supports Hillary more then TP. The hypocracy is amazing from TP on this one seeing as though they claim to be against the war and for Hillary. How do you square that one?
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Oh sure Roger you say its Hillary country so its Hillary country. Keep telling your Nazi-like lies. That might work for your dim-witted republican types but around here people know how to think for themself.
Frankly if we want to vote for Hillary we will but I don’t see any evidence that her nomination is imminent. Its all just part of your Rovian delusions.
I think just about clears up the disagreement over Hilary’s position on Iraq. She’s pro-war. She also believes in that a squadron of tooth fairies can protect the reduced force in their endeavors.
If Elected… Clinton Says Some G.I.’s in Iraq Would Remain
by Michael R. Gordon and Patrick Healy
“Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission†in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.” http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0315-02.htm
I think the grownups here notice how you avoid my challenges so I’ll ask again, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:15 am
Actually the grownups here notice how you avoid acting like an adult. Why do you keep posting something that’s a debunked lie? Because little *boys* like you are the cowards of the world. It’s why you wouldn’t go to Vietnam, and why you *envy* Kerry. He’s a *real-man*, and you’re a little *coward*. I would call you a *pansy*, but gay people are brave, and you aren’t.
“I agree. But I’d still take Hillary over any and every one of the GOP slime! They’ve proven to be nothing more than *enablers* and political slime!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:50 pm”
Well here it is for all you liberals to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and zooey doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you liberal losers! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Well here it is for all you liberals and cons to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and michale doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you conservative losers michael!
Michael, you’ve been a sad little boy all your life, now you’re a sad old man. Was it the sexual abuse as a boy that made you this way? Or the fact you *knew* it was your fault?
Kerry and Bush are both members of the Illuminati lodge Skull and Bones at Yale. Kerry does what he’s told and likes it, as does Bush. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 16, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Kerry’s not a real man. He’s a bought and paid for member of Skull and Bones, just like Bush, and he married the widow of a millionaire, who was also a member of Skull and Bones.
“#95 I can’t stand Giulliani but he seems to be left of Hill. I can’t guarantee I wouldn’t vote for him over that triangulating succubus. Actually, I would stay home.
How? Examples?
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Why are you so stupid and lazy that you need someone to do your work for you? It’s just like Vietnam all over again. Too lazy and cowardly to be a *man*.
Well here it is for all you liberals to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and zooey doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you liberal losers!
Comment by michael
Waaaahhh!! Now everybody’s going to like Michael better than me! Everybody’s going to think Michael smarter than me! Booo Hoooo!!
I think the grownups here notice how you avoid my challenges so I’ll ask again, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by michael
Topic: Michael is a complete and utter moron.
Michael’s task is to argue in favor of that position.
Dude, you said “Any topic!!” You choose this debate, alter kakher, so get started.
Waaaahhh!! Now everybody’s going to like Michael better than me! Everybody’s going to think Michael smarter than me! Booo Hoooo!!
Zalts im in di oygen, feffer im in di noz.
Comment by Zooey — March 16, 2007 @ 12:24 am
HAHAHA, that’s hilarious! Nerds, and those without social skills like michael are often confused by social dynamics. That’s why he’s been a loser his whole life, and blames everyone else on it. He’s just a Hendler redux, with more years on him to become a bitter useless putz.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.
Hilary believes that a REDUCED military force could – (1) fight Al Qaeda, (2) deter Iranian aggression, (3) protect Kurds, AND (4) possibly support Iraqi military
Now on what unholy basis could anyone possibly believe that a REDUCED force could do what an UNREDUCED force could NOT do?
She’s doing EXACTLY what Lyndon Johnson did when he took the reins upon JFK’s murder. Johnson BELIEVED the US military could jump through hoops and save the world. It was a sickening sight and it lasted too many years.
And now Hilary, in her brazen stupidity, is making vainglorious statements, thinking that she can use my son’s body in her REDUCED force.
She’ll get one hell of a fight from me. That’s for sure.
“Okay macho man why aren’t you in Iraq. You trolls are so fond of war as long as somebody else is fighting it. Sign up. They’ll take somebody as stupid as you now that they’ve lowered their standards.
Put your money where your mouth is hotshot.
Comment by shane — March 16, 2007 @ 12:00 am”
I gave the U.S. Navy 5 years of my life! How much have you given to your country, coward!
They make sociological and psychological excuses for evil and blame “society†for bad personal choices. So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
Comment by valiant venus
She says, smoking a Camel in bumf#ck, nowhere, dreaming of taking a bath sometime this month if the hose water ever gets warm enough. You really should get the plumber to your double wide soon. And please cut back on the malt liquor big spender I think its rotting your brain.
If you didn’t have either GOP or Green party slander
Valiant Venus, you are not very bright are you. Slander is speech. Libel is written. But i’ve given away too much information to you already. You’re a joke.
#142 ValiantVenus’ parents amaze me actually. They let this little kid post crude comments all day. I can’t believe they taught him all those naughty words. Kinda amazing that TP allows kids like that to degrade the discussion. New comers to this site read drivel like that and move on. I try to not even read his posts anymore as they are all the same trash. I don’t have a problem with someone disagreeing with me, afterall we are here to discuss and argue. My problem is everyone of his posts are the same. He never once address’ an issue or provides any insight. He, like the child he is, focus’ on insults and bad langauge. I wonder if he honestly thinks his posts make anyone feel bad? Maybe he forgot this is the internet and he is a nameless, faceless, nothing that matters nothing to anyone like everyone else here. The only thing that matters in a post is the topic of the post. Name calling is simply a waste of space.
V V
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.
Hilary believes that a REDUCED military force could – (1) fight Al Qaeda, (2) deter Iranian aggression, (3) protect Kurds, AND (4) possibly support Iraqi military
Now on what unholy basis could anyone possibly believe that a REDUCED force could do what an UNREDUCED force could NOT do?
She’s doing EXACTLY what Lyndon Johnson did when he took the reins upon JFK’s murder. Johnson BELIEVED the US military could jump through hoops and save the world. It was a sickening sight and it lasted too many years.
And now Hilary, in her brazen stupidity, is making vainglorious statements, thinking that she can use my son’s body in her REDUCED force.
She’ll get one hell of a fight from me. That’s for sure.
“#110 Mikey, when have you ever backed up ANYTHING that you have ever said? Try it.
Comment by JPark — March 16, 2007 @ 12:03 am”
Again, if I make a statement I will back it up and I should but I’m not here to make statements, I’m here to challenge liberal statements and make lefties look like the fools you are!
V V
No my son didn’t volunteer. Ah, it’s complicated isn’t it. Life. You think you know everything. But you don’t listen to people, so you know very little and you jump to conclusions. You make assumptions.
Sort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:27 am
You gotta wonder about a man who thinks getting a blow job is a bad thing. Just how twisted are you? Or do you still believe it is better to give than to receive?
Again, if I make a statement I will back it up and I should but I’m not here to make statements, I’m here to challenge liberal statements and make lefties look like the fools you are!
Comment by michael
So you know where life began and ends?
So you know what a fool is and isn’t?
If you cannot answer either, above, then what is a liberal?
What is a Republican?
Can you truly say?
I think perhaps your a fool.
And you I.
Can you prove or disprove either?
Why do you let a word frame your brain?
Michael
The difference between Guiliani and Clinton as far as extra marital goes – Clinton tried to hide his affair, Guiliani didn’t. Guiliani used the media to taunt his wife. It was an ugly thing.
ReallllY??No kidddding??!!! So IF your son wasn’t drafted by the evil George Bush, he V-O-L-U-N-T-E-E-R-E-D to serve his country.
Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:32 am
You could do that, except you’d blow away in the wind, just like the dried piece of sh*t you are.
Bush didn’t *volunteer* to serve his country, he *hid* in the National Guard to avoid service – as many whitebread rich boys did. Compare that to Kerry and Gore, both of whom volunteered for the *real* military, and served in *Vietnam*. Bush couldn’t even finish his guard *service*, because of being a strung out druggie. Yeah VOLUNTEERED – to AVOID!
“Ok, debunk this, Bush had sex with 43% of the Republican Senate. See? You cannot prove me wrong but it doesn’t make me any less of a moron for saying it. Try some facts, bitch.
Comment by JPark — March 16, 2007 @ 12:09 am”
I don’t have to prove you wrong! You make a statement, I challenge you and YOU have to prove you’re right! It’s called credibility and liberals don’t have much!
#167 I am not sure you know what debate means. You could never in a million years win a debate. I am not sure why you keep asking people (I DO know why you ask for privacy, it is embarassing)
Are you an zooey in the same grade? Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Are you and valiant venus in the same grade? Because if you were, you’d know that grammatically you just said we *don’t* have zero intelligence, as in it’s, non-zero.
So to correct you *child-ish* grammar, Neither one of you have any talent and you both have zero intelligence!!! I’d be happy to debate with you michael, but you never do! You’re too busy hitting your head on the desk, just like Vietnam. Coward.
Michael
Here’s an example of the difference between Clinton and Guiliani. Guiliani used his affair to hurt his wife and children.
No Grace At Gracie Mansion http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,127260,00.html
“What will we tell the children? Republicans liked wringing their hands over that one, adding the bad example set by Bill Clinton to their reasons for impeaching him. So what are G.O.P. leaders thinking as their flagship mayor, Rudy Giuliani of New York City, risks damaging his children by publicly berating their mother and declaring his eternal love for a woman not his wife? On Friday his kids and the other 1.5 million children in the five boroughs awoke to tabloids screaming RUDY AND JUDI 4 EVER after Giuliani defended his girlfriend Judith Nathan in the wake of a PEOPLE magazine story. Giuliani gushed that the “very caring and loving” Nathan “doesn’t deserve being treated this way. I feel very bad for her, more than anyone else, because she deserves it the least.”
#175 That is my point, dolt. You keep saying stupid shit and you don’t back it up. Are you really dense enough that you didn’t get my point? You really are stupid.
“Actually the grownups here notice how you avoid acting like an adult. Why do you keep posting something that’s a debunked lie? Because little *boys* like you are the cowards of the world. It’s why you wouldn’t go to Vietnam, and why you *envy* Kerry. He’s a *real-man*, and you’re a little *coward*. I would call you a *pansy*, but gay people are brave, and you aren’t.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:19 am”
My God! If I had to guess you are still in grade school? You certainly don’t converse like anyone whose education has gone beyond the 8th grade. And you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble!
I gave the U.S. Navy 5 years of my life! How much have you given to your country, coward!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:29 am
I’m a woman who graduated high school in 1971. That’s the first year they stopped the draft and they didn’t draft women then. And there wasn’t a lot of volunteering going on back then.
But back to you. Where’s the proof you were in the Navy. Do you have something to back it up.
Some proof, some link, anything. Or do think we should just believe something you say.
I don’t think you were ever in the Navy and if you were they’d probably take you back now. Go ahead tough guy sign up. Do something instead of flapping your mouth about how important the war is. I believe in peace. You believe in war. Let those who talk it fight it. Go ahead sissy.
Note to ChildrenofLir: I have enjoyed reading your Left and Lefter banter with V.VGFYU, a water carrier for the Democrat Party- but PLEASE do not confuse me with the “Queen of the Coast” in Florida. That poor Tourrettes’ victim could think of no original moniker and hijacked my screen name.
P.S. Vote Nader!!!! or Camejo……OrR Medea Benjamin!!!!!
I don’t have to prove you wrong! You make a statement, I challenge you and YOU have to prove you’re right! It’s called credibility and liberals don’t have much! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:39 am
Explain why you don’t have to prove it’s wrong. It’s called credibility, and you conservatives don’t have *any*. Swiftboat lying piece of sh*t scum.
Are you an zooey in the same grade? Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?
Comment by michael
Well Michael, now you have two debate challenges. You seem to be anxious to get started, so you can choose my debate topic or VVGFU’s topic. It makes no difference to me.
#172 Oh, Stubby, thanks for showing up!!! Mikey, what he just said? A pointless statement with nothing to back it up. Like everything you have ever said.
Again, if I make a statement I will back it up and I should but I’m not here to make statements, I’m here to challenge liberal statements and make lefties look like the fools you are!
Comment by michael
You made a statement that you spent 5 years in the Navy. Prove it. Back it up. Go ahead or else go to Iraq.
My God! If I had to guess you are still in grade school? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
My God! If I had to guess you are still in grade school?
See, even when I repeat your *gradeschool* grammar, it’s just st*pid! Like you!
You certainly don’t converse like anyone whose education has gone beyond the 8th grade. Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Project much grandpa? If you could spell, use punctuation or understood basic grammar – we might just think you were brain damaged. As it looks, you’re also ignorant and st*pid ;)
And you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
And you are a representative of the Republican party? Boy are they in trouble! Oh wait – they ARE!!! Dum bass!
V V
You think it matters to me whether it’s you or someone else. it doesn’t. I use you just as you use me and everyone else. We all use each other to get our point across. Except I don’t think you have a point of view. I don’t think you have the courage to have a point of view. Sad for you.
Tell CNN you know it’s no use tell them that Beck is disgusting, so you’re going to contact his advertizers. I could only watch for one commercial block but i pulled off the following (Ask them if they think Hillary is a Bitch, and if they don’t then why do they want to be associated with Mr. Beck):
ChildofLir – Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary. Now you might be worried because your son is in Iraq – naturally, a mother would worry. So if your son didn’t volunteer, what happened – was he given a choice of the service or “hard time”?
And you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Right, Democrats are in trouble. Then why are you here. Why don’t you go to your people and tell them how badly you need Republicans to win. What do you think you can accomplish here. Why would you not be working to help your party. Because frankly here nobody gives a shit what you think or say.
Why do you lambaste Bill but not these folks? Does your paintbrush only color by party name?
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
So by your logic michael Bill had sex with a willing, of age,woman.
Where as, by your groupthink, you are a perverted child molesting GOP apologist.
Mistress Z ~
At least Mikey is admitting that neither of you have zero intelligence.
“Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?”
I’m so glad he realizes you don’t have zero intelligence.
Geez. He doth make it easy, dothent he>?
was he given a choice of the service or “hard time�
Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:48 am
This is the extent to which Mitey Coprolite/varmint genus can empathize: very little to nothing; proving, once more, she is not a parent much less emotionally mature enough to be one.
varmint, are you trying to update your dead child jokes repertoire?
#186 How is your sweet little daughter? Are you turning her into a sicko like you? Oh, wait, we already know you are. Perverted bitch.
Comment by JPark
Dude, I only have sons. How did you know I’m perverted? :-D
ChildofLir – Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary. Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:48 am
You listen? Bah! yeah right! Is that why you called Kerry Phony? You’re the Phony, you 23 year old pathological liar!
Now you might be worried because your son is in Iraq – naturally, a mother would worry. So if your son didn’t volunteer, what happened – was he given a choice of the service or “hard timeâ€? Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:48 am
Ah, another dead baby joke and mark of *sensitivity* on your part! You never change you st*pid hateful c*nt?
Mistress Z ~
At least Mikey is admitting that neither of you have zero intelligence.
“Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?â€
I’m so glad he realizes you don’t have zero intelligence.
Geez. He doth make it easy, dothent he>?
Comment by RUCerious
Michael is precious. I’ve been insulting him in Yiddish all evening. I wonder if he’s used “the Google” to figure out my sweet nothings? Oh wait, he doesn’t know how to use Google, what am I thinking? :D
ChildofLir – Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary. Comment by valiant venus
He was linking to Aphrodite’s stupid post – not yours. I think it was the blog numbering fairy messing up again.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Juan C
I know about sad tormented individuals, and one thing you don’t do is enable them. V V is not sad or tormented. V V is sick. To be sad or tormented you would have to have feelings and a conscience. V V is the sociopathic type, who has no feelings or believes feelings to be fraudulent. A person who does not trust his/her own mind or heart. A sick individual, probably sickened by a sick parent. Hence my question – Was it the mother who was a bitch, or the pedophiliac father that caused the problem?
also, save your breath writing CNN or ABC. they’ve decided he’s a funnyman. anybody who takes exception to what he says or sees a double standard in play is just a big stick in the mud who needs to get over themselves.
Republican money is greener than non-Republican money. it’s the only explanation.
Zep Tepi
I appreciate your ideals, it’s important to be a real human being, not an ideal. Come down off your pedestal and be human. Being human is the hard job. It means being crude and forthright. And that’s what i intend. I have no use for people who do nothing in order to be correct.
Don’t let michael pull the stereotypicall GOPer hand job on everyone and get everybody off topic. Even bashing this no-name loser is just taking us all off topic.
Find Mr. Beck’s advertizers and send them something like the following:
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
Since you are a sponsor of the Glenn Beck show on CNN, I’m curious as to whether or not you too consider Hillary Clinton a Bitch. According to Mr. Beck “She’s the stereotypical bitch.“
The Whitehouse was not Bubba’s Playboy Mansion.
I understand he was “doing the peoples work†when he was doing’ Monica.
I know it was consensual and …on and on
Hey Presidents get horny too!
Comment by Flaco — March 16, 2007 @ 1:25 am
That’s right, that’s why Gannon had all of those sleepovers! Closet gay presidents also need sleepovers!
Zooey
Call your friend V V and ask her\him if it is the mother who is the bitch, or was it the father behind the bar that did him/her in.
Ask your friend, that outstanding human being and dem supporter
Comment by ChildrenofLir
I defend Zep because I think of him as a friend. i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.
How am I two-faced? You keep saying I’m a friend of Valiant Venus, but that’s absolutely not true. I don’t know why you’re saying that. I really am missing something.
Damn does anyone over the age of 15 post here anymore ? This was a political blog spot , now it’s regularly overtaken by childish obscenities, name calling and nastiness.Its hard to tell the trolls from the legitimate bloggers .If I didn’t know better I’d say there was a conspiracy to destroy the relevancy of the websites blog space and turn off newcomers by making Liberals look obscene and ridiculous.
Bloggers are having a major effect on the news media and the politicians . No doubt about it .There are many in the “establishment that would prefer it went away and until net neutrality is done away with this strategy is probably the best they can come up with .
I’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy!
Comment by michael
Mikey is too stupid to realize that he exposes nothing but his own idiocy when he can’t present any facts (which is all the time, of course). I’m still waiting for him to tell me what illustrious graduates have been produced by his supposedly superior private high school.
TP should ban the profanity here which is way over the top.Insulting other bloggers is not a good debating skill and only cheapens the arguments !
I feel like the only adult in a room full of bad mannered adolescents.
Zooey ,go out and make some real friends in the real world .,this isn’t your living room and you aren’t entertaining guests here .Its a political blog site .
I feel like the only adult in a room full of bad mannered adolescents. Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:24 am
Yet your post sounds like a condescending brat. What you *feel* isn’t relevant. You’re just as st*pid and self righteous as michael and the rest of the right wingnut twits are.
Damn does anyone over the age of 15 post here anymore ? Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:16 am
Don’t judge everyone by your mental attitude. You shouldn’t call for profanity to be banned, while using it. It makes you look like a st*pid hypocrite, and right wingnut troll.
Its hard to tell the trolls from the legitimate bloggers .If I didn’t know better I’d say there was a conspiracy to destroy the relevancy of the websites blog space and turn off newcomers by making Liberals look obscene and ridiculous. Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:16 am
That’s true, because you sound like a st*pid right wing hypocritical troll. Your self righteous attitude would turn most people off – *sshole.
Zooey ,go out and make some real friends in the real world .,this isn’t your living room and you aren’t entertaining guests here .Its a political blog site .
I am wishing to find a television that is objective and not this politicizing. I have been years looking for it and never I have found it. When they create a television network that speaks of political subjects and is completely objective, it will be a great day for all. In addition to which it will be a great business because million viewers estan wishing to find something thus.
So? What good is a woman who isn’t a bitch….
If Babara had been bitchy enough, she could have murdered Bush for us – saved us trillions and more moneybags expenses.
Is there a male equivalent of the term “bitch”? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchy”, but not females? I really don’t know.
Earlier this evening, CNN previewed an interview between Paula Zahn and Beck in which he appears to “tell-all†about his addiction and his smoking a bong in front of his children like some love-starved Hollywood starlet in some pathetic attempt to look “human.”
Tell me something; is it my imagination or does it happen that every time this polyploid chipmunk gets himself into hot water, he ends up trying to redeem himself through some pathetic attempt at humility? When is CNN going to wake up to this jack-ass and their own gullibility? I know the answer to both questions, but Jesus, the objectivity of any such “expose” has the objectivity of Goebbels interviewing Goering. Sheesh!
#261 Comment by David Carlisle — March 16, 2007 @ 6:19 am
“Weird question:
Is there a male equivalent of the term “bitchâ€? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchyâ€, but not females? I really don’t know.”
That is not a weird question, David. The fact of the matter is that there is no equivalent.
Some think “bastard” is the equivalent, but of course it isn’t. Both “bastard” and “bitch” are male pejoratives and both denigrate women. Bastard = Son of a Bitch, both of which are meant to shame/harm women.
Men who came up with and use those terms, like Glenn Beck, exhibit sociopathic behaviors and are dangerous to all women. Such men and their hatred of women are why we have had to pass rape laws.
My advice to all women is to stay away from Beck and his ilk for their own safety.
The fact that most folks who label themselves “conservative” (including the trolls on Think Progrssive threads) think there is nothing wrong with what Beck says, would indicate that they fall in the category of “Beck and his ilk,” and should be avoided by all women at all costs. These are very dangerous people who spend their lives doing other people harm, especially women.
#263 – “Well, what kinda comment would you expect from a stereotypical, wife-beatin, woman-hatin, racist, incest-plagued, beastiality boy.” Comment by Falco — March 16, 2007 @ 8:20 am
Wow, I didn’t know that Glenn Beck was into beastiality.
DS @267 – I suppose I was being a bit overdramatic there, kinda making fun of typical stereotypes…but if Republicans are constantly mis-defining us, I figure we could pair a lot of negative stimuli with “stereotypes” they are more closely associated.
If you guys would actually listen to the whole context of what Glenn says, you would understand that he is not using hateful speach. He ALSO went on to say, QUOTE: “I agree with EVERYTHING she said! I’m just talking about HOW she says it! The tone of her voice makes you cringe like an old woman yelling at you to get off the couch and take out the trash or stop going out with the guys at night.” But you guys all convieniently ignore that part of his comments.
Glenn Beck is your stereotypical fat, pink, piggish, Karl Rove-ish GOP thug and it is a testament to the shit that passes as television programming now that he has any airtime at all.
It’s also a testament to the fact that too many Americans are outright morons.
This is the equivelant of Beck calling Barrack Obama “Macaca.” What I don’t understand is why blogs like Daily Kos and Talking Points Memo aren’t addressing this and expressing outrage over this. It’s a sad fact about this country that there are progressives as well as conservatives, and women as well as men, who find highly intelligent, competent and successful women like Clinton to be a threat. They will tell you it’s not just because she’s a woman, they will tell you it’s specific to her, but I don’t believe it. It’s sexism.
Everybody on here has taken the entire comment out of context and spun to meet their own peronsal bias/agenda/whatever. He never said “Hillary Clinton is a stereotypical b*tch.” He said, “Her voice SOUNDS LIKE that of a stereotypical bitch…I’m not saying that she is, it’s the vocal RANGE of her voice.” Everyone continues to ignore the full context of what he said and spins all around to make him say something else.
Did he make these comments before or after he started sobbing on Paula Zhon’s show THursday about how terrible he was to people when he was a drug addict and alcoholic?
When some young woman is knocking on your door offering to give you a blow job you’d say no.
You’re not much of a man are you. Because as a woman I can tell you that I don’t know one man, not one, who would say no.
Of course you’ll never have the opportunity to test your resolve will you.
Everybody on here has taken the entire comment out of context and spun to meet their own peronsal bias/agenda/whatever. He never said “Hillary Clinton is a stereotypical b*tch.†He said, “Her voice SOUNDS LIKE that of a stereotypical bitch…I’m not saying that she is, it’s the vocal RANGE of her voice.†Everyone continues to ignore the full context of what he said and spins all around to make him say something else.
Comment by Timbo
That’s mincing words. You can get away with saying anything, if you forgive a context like that. “I think Beck sounds like a child molster sometimes. Just the tone of his voice makes me think ‘child molester.’ That’s all I’m saying. He may not be, for all I know.”
Is there a male equivalent of the term “bitchâ€? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchyâ€, but not females? I really don’t know.
Comment by David Carlisle — March 16, 2007 @ 6:19 am
No men under the same circumstances are called ambitious, aggressive, macho – all positive aspects of the male psyche. Females are just bitches. Hence the negative connotation.
Thanks for the question David often men don’t seem to notice the disparity.
When she’s yelling at these stupid rallies, you have to cringe and almost tune her out because her voice is that annoying. He literally he said he agreed with her words, it was the sound of speaking voice that he was talking about. Two people can say the exact same words. One can sound awful saying them and another can say pleasing and intelligent saying them. That’s all it is. There is a science to how people resond to the vocal range and pitches to people’s voices.
Her voice SOUNDS LIKE that of a stereotypical bitch
Comment by Timbo — March 16, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
So instead of insulting one woman he chooses to label a whole demographic. Let’s see, when he was smoking his bong in front of his children he probably thought his wife was a bitch. And this is the guy you want to get your news from, go ahead.
Aren’t liberals the ones that believe that people can always be rehabilitated are turned from their previous harmful ways? Aren’t they generally the ones letting muderers and rapists out of prison after 5 years, and seeking shorter and shorter terms for drug offenders? He’s been clean for something like 12 years, but because he’s a conservative he’s still labeled as a dope-head. Were he a liberal, you wouldn’t even bother acknowleding such a past.
I don’t go to him for news. He’s not news. He’s social commentary. There’s a difference. His comedy bits and parodies (thanks mostly to his producer Stu) are funnier and more clever than anyone, left or right, on radio. Besides, he’s not LABELING a whole demographic. He’s referring to a demographic that has been STEREOTYPICALLY labeled! Consistency should have you on his side as far as that goes! haha
Oh well, can’t expect to find logic or intelligent analysis from liberals (just ask Rosie – upset and BLAMING the U.S. for Khalid Shaikh Mohammed’s confessions) so I’m done here.
When she’s yelling at these stupid rallies, you have to cringe and almost tune her out because her voice is that annoying. He literally he said he agreed with her words, it was the sound of speaking voice that he was talking about. Two people can say the exact same words. One can sound awful saying them and another can say pleasing and intelligent saying them. That’s all it is. There is a science to how people resond to the vocal range and pitches to people’s voices.
That’s 100% subjective. I neither think she sounds unappealing nor “bitchy.” She’s not even a candidate I’m excited about, but I find her to be a pretty compelling speaker, just from the ability to speak and tone of voice, not even considering content. So what does that say? It depends on the listener.
I’d really like to see the scientific scale for “vocal bitchiness.” That’d be rich.
Is there a male equivalent of the term “bitchâ€? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchyâ€, but not females? I really don’t know.
Comment by David Carlisle — March 16, 2007 @ 6:19 am
No men under the same circumstances are called ambitious, aggressive, macho – all positive aspects of the male psyche. Females are just bitches. Hence the negative connotation.
Thanks for the question David often men don’t seem to notice the disparity.
Comment by shane — March 16, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
INDEED! This was a clear attempt to not only find a way to insult her without tackling ANY issues, but to diminish ALL women as potential presidential candidates since they may, at times, not act “traditionally feminine” at all times. However, if they did fit the “Mrs. Cleaver” role, they would, in turn, be insulted by detractors as not being tough enough for the job. It’s a no-win situation for females. This is why this type of insult needs to recognized and called out for what it is: hate speech. Does Beck have a right to say it? Yes. Do we have a right to call him out on it and tell other people how sexist it is? Absolutely!!
Ya’ll really need to lighten up! I like Hillary… may even vote for her. But I gotta say. That was the funniest damn thing I have ever heard!! I agree with some of her politics, but come on. If you are being honest, her voice is pretty bad when she gets riled up. As far as hate speech goes, just scroll through these postings and you will find the most seathing, festering hatered ever… from both sides!
“Gee, what sophisticated commentary (sarcasm off) from a stereotypical undereducated neo-CON jerk.
Comment by Lora — March 15, 2007 @ 9:10 pm”
Perhaps you consider the following to be sophistcated commentary from well educated liberals?
Naw, its just that when he thinks about Hilary, his shorts get real roomy all of a sudden. Powerful women do that to sexist a&&holes.
Comment by j swift — March 15, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
You however, the term b*tch is where you wake up in the morning, the term c*nt is where you st*pid miserable *ss ends up every day.
And dear c*nt, who’s stalking who? You’re the one chasing the progressives to *our* turf – st*pid c*nt.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:07
Project much? The only time you confront a *moral* or *truthful* moment – is when we slap you upside your Anorexic lying head with one. You st*pid c*nt.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
#286 CC
I may not like the language in some of the posts you have cited. However, the big difference is that these posts are reaching a much smaller audience than Glenn Beck on CNN and the posters are not being paid big bucks (in fact, they’re paid nothing) for their comments. I still vaguely remember the days of newscasters and commentators like Cronkite, Brinkley, etc. who spoke with dignity and didn’t use schoolyard insults.
Sorry, Lora. With all the filth on this thread, it didn’t occur to me that you might actually be making a serious comment expecting a civil answer. I don’t view Beck as a peer for Cronkite or Brinkley. Although I disagree with their politics, they were always dignified on the air. I see Beck as the conservative alternative to Bill Maher.
as the wreck beck movement leader, I must say this is very interesting.
the hate machine rolls on.
go to my blog achorn.blogspot.com if you want to know more about beck, and what to do about him.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:01 pm…this sprite really hates his mother…
…after what she did with him though…
…who can blame him…
March 15th, 2007 at 9:02 pmMorons like Glenn Beck always view strong and intelligent women as “Bitches,” because they are intimidated. It says more about Beck, than it does about HRC.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:02 pmMy guess is that “Glenn or Glenda” had an overbearing mother.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:03 pmPLEASE Write CNN. GB is just a disgusting human being.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:03 pmGlenn’s a stereotypical misogynistic dick that’s afraid of women, especially powerful ones, unless they act like 12 year old boys (Ann Coulter) and protect them from the big mean liberals!
What a bunch of whiny little twits fill the ranks of the GOP!
March 15th, 2007 at 9:06 pmDamn “liberal” MSM!
March 15th, 2007 at 9:07 pmGee, what sophisticated commentary (sarcasm off) from a stereotypical undereducated neo-CON jerk.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:10 pmThe Bush/Coulter/Rove Republican Theme Attack is fleshing out just fine. Barack Obama is a terrorist. John Edwards is a faggot. Hillary Clinton is a bitch.
The scum is rising to the top as the bottom of the barrel is stirred-up.
-GSD
March 15th, 2007 at 9:12 pmFaggots and bitches. This new generation of conservatives is just all class, isn’t it?
(Jake, do you think that’s why Reagan’s crying on the cover of Time?–Or do you think these neocon youngsters are just finally saying what the old crop thought but had the horse-sense not to say?)
In any case, I figure Beck should rename his show in honor of the now canceled classic: “BACK-fire”.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:12 pmDon’t fool yourself. This hateful speech is exactly why CNN hired Beck. And it will get worse, since whipping up the Republican base with increasingly shrill rhetoric is the only way to divert attention from massive corruption and ruinous policy failure.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:15 pmSo what? I’m a progressive, and I think she’s a bitch, too. An insincere, condescending, two-faced bitch.
“Let the conversation begin,” followed by a decree that anti-war voters can go find someone else, and that she’d keep troops in Iraq beyond 2009. B-i-t-c-h.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:16 pmNaw, its just that when he thinks about Hilary, his shorts get real roomy all of a sudden. Powerful women do that to sexist a&&holes.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:17 pmSenator Clinton to Glenn Beck: “HELLO, SON!!!!!”
March 15th, 2007 at 9:17 pmAND CONTINUING: “HEY, Glenn, BY THE WAY, I FOUND YOUR REAL PARENTS BECAUSE I’M JUST YOUR FOSTER MOTHER–HERE’S $50, YOU SHOULD GET A MARRIAGE LICENSE FOR THEM SO YOU CAN BECOME LEGAL!!!!! AND IF THERE’S ANY CHANGE LEFT OVER, GET YOURSELF SOME CHEESE, YOU F*CKING RAT-BASTARD!!!!!”
gosh, imagine the outrage if someone said that about laura….
March 15th, 2007 at 9:19 pmYou’re right, Raoul. And it works for Beck and the cable corporations because it consolidates viewer markets, and that equals bucks.
But… the polling is quite clear on this. For every single right-wing nutjob they pull in to watch Beck, O’Reilly, et al., they alienate at least one to two moderates (usually female). Now the nutjobs are and were going to vote republican anyway; but you have wonder about the discriminating moderate, eh? 2008, here we come.
This is the lesson that the Bushies have repeatedly failed to learn: he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:24 pmCNN needs to fire this asswipe.
I don’t personally like Hillary’s voting record and I will not vote for her in the primaries, but Beck went way over the line this time.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI don’t much care for Beck but I can’t find it VERY hard to defend Clinton.
Sorry, but she’s a 2 faced liar.
What is it today? Will she pull troops out of Iraq, or keep them there if elected. What will it be tomorrow?
I guess it depends on whether she’s speaking to AIPAC members or the general public.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:26 pmI can’t remember the last time I watched CNN. And I love news stories. Anyone here watch this dude?
March 15th, 2007 at 9:27 pmSounds like Glenn’s got crush on Hillary…
March 15th, 2007 at 9:37 pmDamn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:37 pmHow’s that thar destroyin’ libs workin’ out fer you, Firehead?
;)
March 15th, 2007 at 9:41 pmDamn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs.
Comment by firehead
Fireant is a terrorist.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:42 pmDamn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs. Comment by firehead — March 15, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Did you borrow that speech for Adolph, or Osama?
March 15th, 2007 at 9:51 pmThe main stream media is dead it just hasn’t woken up to the fact .Now that bushco and Faux news are falling out of favor with the public ,it’s CNN’s turn to run with the torch for fascisism .90% of all media in the US ,TV radio and print ,are owned by 6 companies. It’s just a matter of good cop ,bad cop.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:54 pmDEMOCRACY NOW !
What Beck is really saying is that Hillary can kick his sorry a*s up and down the road all day and is much smarter, and he can’t stand it.
March 15th, 2007 at 9:59 pmYeah. That’s it. Why else would he go to Monica for head?
March 15th, 2007 at 9:59 pm#3 – “Morons like Glenn Beck always view strong and intelligent women as “Bitches,†because they are intimidated. ” Comment by Zooey
Thank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’
March 15th, 2007 at 10:03 pmSyndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated.
I too have some problems with Hillary. However, that’s NOT the point here. Having a CNN host say these blatantly rude things about the front-running Democratic candidate is absolutely absurd. It’s completely unprofessional!
Tell CNN how you feel about this:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4b.html?80
March 15th, 2007 at 10:06 pmHere’s the link in the right format.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Thank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Nothing can be *explained* to a st*pid c*nt like yourself.
I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’ Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
That would require you to be *strong*, and *intelligent*. All you do is *whine* and make *st*pid* remarks.
Zooey, now she’s a strong, and smart woman. Heck she’s even called me to the carpet, lashed me around, and I still don’t think she’s a b*tch. Just the opposite in fact.
You however, the term b*tch is where you wake up in the morning, the term c*nt is where you st*pid miserable *ss ends up every day.
And dear c*nt, who’s stalking who? You’re the one chasing the progressives to *our* turf – st*pid c*nt.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:07 pmDamn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him. Glenn is what America is all about. Being tough, speaking your mind, and destroying libs.
Comment by firehead
Firehead must have been being sarcastic. Right, Firehead?
March 15th, 2007 at 10:08 pmI don’t like Hillary. Reminds me too much of MA’s indignatious attitude.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:10 pmI hate glenn beck, but i’m not gonna lie it’s true
March 15th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’
Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated.
Comment by valiant venus
How you love to compliment yourself, Haggie.
Your nemesis, as you so quaintly call him, isn’t intimidated by anything so insignificant as yourself.
Tell us a joke about your dead baby.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:12 pmNot one of the Republican enabler’s inflammatory insults is off the cuff. He sets of his little preplanned word bomb and then immediately backs off like he’s chagrined at his own scumbag self.
Republican Dreck: “I’m sorry for being such a pig. But please, America. Please. I don’t think I could do it for four years. I mean, sure the country is going to go to hell in a handbasket, but could we make this about me for a second? I just don’t think I could take it from her.” He also said that “there is a range in women’s voices that experts say is just the chalk, I mean, the fingernails on the blackboard.”
He’s just doing his best Republican Coulter. And he’s not changing anyone’s mind. Anybody who appreciates what he does already thinks like he does and is pretty much irredeemable. They were there before Republican Dreck showed up and they’ll be there when he’s gone.
He strokes his schtick to offend and inflame. And it works like a charm. Republican Dreck is like Springer except he’s both the circus master and the farting bear on a bike. And when he farts, his crowd roars with laughter and approval. Inside, it seems like a big show. From outside, it’s just a tent full of idiots in a giant parking lot.
If CNN and ABC stopped getting tons of appalled attention from Republican Dreck, he would soon be useless to them. They’d be pissed if he went soft. Really, the more completely every one of the insult pigs could be ignored and just pigonholed as the self contrived hatemongers that they are, the sooner they could be lumped in someone like David “White Power” Duke and just classified as a unabashed and predicatable hater.
Would CNN and ABC give David “White Power” Duke a show? I doubt it though it may have crossed their minds. David “White Power” Duke is defined. He’s accepted for what he is on all sides. And the sooner that his hating brethern and sistern like Republican Dreck, Republican Coulter, Republican Savage and Republican Malkin are tarred with the exact same brush, the easier it will be to isolate them and their hate filled audience.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:12 pmThat’s mature. Namecalling. It so becomes you…
March 15th, 2007 at 10:18 pmHow you love to compliment yourself, Haggie.
Your nemesis, as you so quaintly call him, isn’t intimidated by anything so insignificant as yourself.
Tell us a joke about your dead baby.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Ok, now THAT is a strong woman. Did I tell you how much I admire you strength and determination? ;)
March 15th, 2007 at 10:22 pmThank you, Zoooette – your observation explains alot. I thought my chief nemesis here at TP was suffering from Tourettes’
Syndrome, but the poor dear is simply intimidated.
Kind of a weak post, MA. Kinda pathetic, really.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI am not a fan of Hillary but Beck is more of a bitch than old Hill.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:26 pmZooooey – It would be difficult to repeat that which I never did. Your mis-characterization is a lie – but I find the truth is subjective when dealing with morally nimble progressives. Speaking of *strong* womyn, have you and unbelievable called a truce yet? Or are you both parsing the words of the cease-fire.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:33 pmTime to nail this SOB’s coffin shut.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:34 pm#41 MA, why aren’t you using your real fake name now? Are you ashamed of yourself?
March 15th, 2007 at 10:36 pmOk, now THAT is a strong woman. Did I tell you how much I admire you strength and determination? ;)
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Sweet. I knew I liked you.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:37 pmThey’re nervous. That woman will soon have dictatorial powers.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:38 pmZooooey – It would be difficult to repeat that which I never did. Your mis-characterization is a lie – but I find the truth is subjective when dealing with morally nimble progressives. Speaking of *strong* womyn, have you and unbelievable called a truce yet? Or are you both parsing the words of the cease-fire.
Comment by valiant venus
No matter how many times you deny it, Haggie, you still did it. In the unlikely and unfortunate event that you are a parent, you redefine coldness.
Any issues that may remain between unbelievable and myself is exactly that — between us. Thanks for faking your concern. I’m sure that’s something you do often — faking it, that is.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:41 pmZooooey – It would be difficult to repeat that which I never did. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Lying for you is a *compulsion*. So now you lie, about the children you lied about before, when you make jokes about them.
You’re a miserable freak.
Your mis-characterization is a lie – but I find the truth is subjective when dealing with morally nimble progressives. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Project much? The only time you confront a *moral* or *truthful* moment – is when we slap you upside your Anorexic lying head with one. You st*pid c*nt.
Speaking of *strong* womyn, have you and unbelievable called a truce yet? Or are you both parsing the words of the cease-fire. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Meddling in the *personal* affair of others again? Now this is the kind of *nimble* morality that you exhibit that makes people call you a hate filled hypocritical c*nt.
You’re welcome for our concern – eat a tic-tac b*tch.
March 15th, 2007 at 10:50 pmZoooey – As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledge – the story was about one of my sweet surviving children being kind to their mom. Who knows, maybe that is a difficult relationship for you to understand.
“Coldness as a parent” – I think YOU defined it well (and project ALOT) when you couldn’t get your kid packed off to school fast enough. What? – 48 hrs. too long with one of your offspring. “The kid” probably had enough…..
“Faking concern”? I’m ashamed to admit it, Unbelievable’s cat fight with you was the best laugh I’d had in two or three hours…
March 15th, 2007 at 11:01 pm“Morons like Glenn Beck always view strong and intelligent women as “Bitches,†because they are intimidated. It says more about Beck, than it does about HRC.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 9:02 pm”
You state Beck is a moron. How about telling us why? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:02 pmThe most effective response would have been the comment section to read 0 comments…..does anyone get it????
March 15th, 2007 at 11:02 pm“PLEASE Write CNN. GB is just a disgusting human being.
Comment by ScrewBush — March 15, 2007 @ 9:03 pm”
Care to elaborate on that idiotic statement or are you going to run and hide with zooey?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:03 pm“Glenn’s a stereotypical misogynistic dick that’s afraid of women, especially powerful ones, unless they act like 12 year old boys (Ann Coulter) and protect them from the big mean liberals!
What a bunch of whiny little twits fill the ranks of the GOP!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 9:06 pm”
What a bunch of scared little liberals who resort to name calling and call it debate! Valiant, you and zooey are the queens of childishness!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:06 pm#51 I don’t think it needs elaboration. Why would it?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:06 pm“Coldness as a parent†– I think YOU defined it well
LOL, wanna talk about your daughter again, you insane freak? :)
March 15th, 2007 at 11:07 pm#52 Michael, you have never, in the many months you have been here, made an actual point. You do nothing but inject your personal view into the post. You have never presented one fact. No you attack those that have??? Grow up.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:10 pmZoooey – As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledge – the story was about one of my sweet surviving children being kind to their mom. Who knows, maybe that is a difficult relationship for you to understand.
As you well know and refuse to understand, Haggie, is that I know you don’t have ANY children. No parent could tell a story like you told, in the tone you told it, and USE her surviving child in such a manner. It would simply be too devastating. Give it a rest.
“Coldness as a parent†– I think YOU defined it well (and project ALOT) when you couldn’t get your kid packed off to school fast enough. What? – 48 hrs. too long with one of your offspring. “The kid†probably had enough…..
Darling, what you might someday understand — when you have children — is that when they grow up and move forward with their lives, they apprecate their independence, and so do I.
I completely understand that you don’t understand affectionate humor between a loving mother and son.
“Faking concern� I’m ashamed to admit it, Unbelievable’s cat fight with you was the best laugh I’d had in two or three hours…
Comment by valiant venus
Thanks for confirming that your concern was fake. It’s cute that your characterize a miscommunication as a “cat fight.”
Self-hating women are not attractive, Haggie. But you know that about yourself already.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:12 pmWhat a bunch of scared little liberals who resort to name calling and call it debate! Valiant, you and zooey are the queens of childishness! Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
What a scared little conservative who resorts to avoiding debates! michael you are the *queen* of childishness! Tell me grandpa, is that how you avoided Vietnam? Servicing the General in return for your under the desk service?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:14 pmCare to elaborate on that idiotic statement or are you going to run and hide with zooey? Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
Care to elaborate on your idiotic statement or are you going to run and hide with valiant?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:15 pmwhy do people even watch this sick bastard ?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:15 pmYou state Beck is a moron. How about telling us why? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me? Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
You request explanation for why Beck is a moron? How about explaining why you’re such a big moron that you need that explanation? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me? St*pid old puke.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:16 pmYou state Beck is a moron. How about telling us why? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me?
Comment by michael
If you don’t know why Beck is a moron, there is no help for you, Chiam Yankel.
Did I think I would get away with making that statement with you?
Hmmmm, since I don’t give a flying f*ck what you think, say or do about anything, I’d say the answer is…..I DON’T CARE.
Run away, Michael! It’s debate time! You know what it is, and it ain’t about Kerry.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:17 pmCare to elaborate on that idiotic statement or are you going to run and hide with zooey?
Comment by michael
Alter kakher, I’m not the one who disappears every time the debate you agreed to (Any topic!!) comes up.
Topic: Michael is a complete and utter moron.
Michael’s task is to argue in favor of that position.
Well, momzer?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:20 pmZoooey – As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledge – the story was about one of my sweet surviving children being kind to their mom. Who knows, maybe that is a difficult relationship for you to understand. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
As you well know – and REFUSE to acknowledged, you made a tasteless joke associating the death of your child as being as bad as a *Democrat*.
That’s disgusting, perverted and *disturbed* you hateful old c*nt!
“Coldness as a parent†– I think YOU defined it well (and project ALOT) when you couldn’t get your kid packed off to school fast enough. What? – 48 hrs. too long with one of your offspring. “The kid†probably had enough….. Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Says the 23 year old *barren* Anorexic. You’re a could heartless c*nt!
“Faking concern� I’m ashamed to admit it, Unbelievable’s cat fight with you was the best laugh I’d had in two or three hours…
Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Laughing at the *distress* of others. That’s why people call you a *cold* and *heartless-b*tch*. And appropriately so!
Me, I just just chalk it up to the same mental illness that causes your eating disorder, and psycho-sexual confusion. You can’t help being a st*pid c*nt – you’re *defective*. That’s why you always cry *victim* – like you just did with Zooey! Miserable little c*nt!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:20 pm#18 Clinton isn’t against the war at all. I think she is very clear on this point.
Lets review so recent Hillary Quotes to clear up her stance on Iraq going forward:
“There are remaining vital national security interests in Iraq that would require a continuing deployment of American troops.â€
“The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda. It is right in the heart of the oil region and it is directly in opposition to our interests, to Israel’s interests.â€
“Coalition capabilities, including keeping force levels stable, keeping resources and operations stable, remain an essential stabilizing element in Iraq.â€
These days, that is as pro Iraq war as it comes in my book. It is amazing that a pro war canidate is leading the polls for the Dem party however. Furthermore, it floors me that TP supports her so much. I understand this site is all funded by Clinton buddies and all, but how can they put up an anti war post right next to pro HIllary posts over and over? The hypocracy is very clear on this one. In that same interview she even went on to state she would leave at least 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly. Maybe the Dem party is switching to a pro Iraq war policy. I mean, they are voting yes to extend the war with all the money Bush is asking for (like $100 billion).
March 15th, 2007 at 11:20 pmRoger_Roger, move along you old coward. Hillary said we should reduce the troops – and focus only on Al Qaeda related activities. Like your *opinion* or *disinformation* is anything more than a swiftboat. Just because all of your friends are as deranged and retarded as you are, don’t think we are *sshole!
Tell me Roger_Roger – why do you hate america so much, and support the Terrorists? Are you another one of those Terrorist sympathizers that donates to the GOP?
Fcuk off you stupid old fool!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:23 pmJust remember what BITCH stands for, Beck…
Babe
In
Total
Control of
Herself
Mind you, I have some doubts in my own mind whether Hillary is truly in total control of herself…but considering that many neoconservatives like Beck seem to think that women should stick to “kinder, kuche, and kirche”, “bitch” isn’t quite the insult that Beck thinks it is. Personally, if my only choices are being a bitch or being a doormat, then I don’t even have to think about it…I’ll very gladly be a bitch!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:24 pm#64 I am not sure what your point is. This is not Hill country.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:24 pmAnd you, Sir, are a yellow-bellied sapsucker. Oh, excuse me. Did I say sapsucker? What I meant to say is that you are a yellow-bellied cocksucker.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:25 pmHilary is obviously pandering to the AIPAC money. And it is bizarre that Dems and TP would basically support her nebulous talk-tough militaristic strategy, in light of what is really happening in Iraq as described by someone who is actually there – Patrick Cockburn is living in a Shia neighborhood and he describes the descent into civil war. What a fantasy world Hilary and the rest live in up there on Capital Hill.
“Baghdad has broken up into a dozen different cities at war with each other. Walls are covered with slogans in black paint saying “Death to Spies”. Any Shia caught in a Sunni district will be killed as a spy or because of his religion and vice versa. Each side has its checkpoints where armed men in civilian clothes casually ask drivers for their identity cards. They wave to one side those they suspect of being of the opposite religion who are then interrogated, tortured and killed. The checkpoints are difficult to avoid because they suddenly spring up without any advance warning. Some 30 to 50 bodies, often mutilated, are picked by the police every day.”
A Dozen Different Cities at War with Each Other
March 15th, 2007 at 11:27 pmBaghdad Under Surge
By PATRICK COCKBURN
http://www.counterpunch.org/
#65 YOur right, Hillary did say we should reduce the troops. She is proposing keeping 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly to secure the Oil and look out for Isreals interests as well. Her words, not mine.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:28 pm#67 This is HIllary country. No site supports Hillary more then TP. The hypocracy is amazing from TP on this one seeing as though they claim to be against the war and for Hillary. How do you square that one?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:29 pm#70 K, I am all with you on this one. Hillary is a warmongering righty.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:30 pm#65 YOur right, Hillary did say we should reduce the troops. She is proposing keeping 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly to secure the Oil and look out for Isreals interests as well. Her words, not mine.
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Neither of which involves the *peacekeeping* missions destroying our troops. I’m personally not thrilled by this path – but compared to you NeoNazi fcuking losers – it’s a huge step forward!
Roger, were you always a prissy little b*tch? Or did you develop that trait with your senility?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:33 pmHonestly, if I was so hardcore “paid” righty guy, I should be supporting HIllary and begging you folks to nominate her. She getting nominated is the best chance the repugs have for winning in 08′. Her name on the ticket would bring out the conservatives in droves and keep many libs at home on election day. In reality, I would like a chance to vote for Obama or Gore if he runs. Just enjoy informing you all to the real Hillary, the pro Iraq war HIllary.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:33 pmIt’s what I said on this site several years ago – the Clinton’s are imperialists, just a different school of imperialists from the Bush’s, but imperialists none the less. Imperialists who smile and tell jokes as they take your resources.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:34 pm#67 This is HIllary country. No site supports Hillary more then TP. The hypocracy is amazing from TP on this one seeing as though they claim to be against the war and for Hillary. How do you square that one? Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Support, or won’t *smear*? You can’t even *spell* the word *hypocrisy*, WTF do you believe you know what the words mean? You’re st*pid j*ck*ass smearing fool that no one believes, likes, listens to or cares whether you exist or not.
Do us all a favor, and STFU and sit in the corner like the *dunce* you are. Ok sport?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:35 pmI lived through the gung-ho pro-war Lyndon Johnson who threw young soldiers into the killing fields with wild abandon, all the while expressing extreme angst, but never once stopping the killing machine. No, he kept it going for five long years. Finally after wasting countless lives and slaughtering millions of Vietnamese and failing to change anything, he gave up the ghost and did not seek re-election, and then we got Nixon, the madman.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:37 pmPersonally, if my only choices are being a bitch or being a doormat, then I don’t even have to think about it…I’ll very gladly be a bitch!
Comment by Bluestocking
Just make sure you capitalize the B, in Bitch. :)
March 15th, 2007 at 11:38 pmHonestly, if I was so hardcore “paid†righty guy, I should be supporting HIllary and begging you folks to nominate her. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Do you think we *care* what st*pid motivation you do or don’t have? Everyone here thinks you’re a blabbering fool! We don’t give a sh*t what you think, believe, feel or want. Why is that so hard for you to understand, you retarded old goat?
She getting nominated is the best chance the repugs have for winning in 08′. Her name on the ticket would bring out the conservatives in droves and keep many libs at home on election day. In reality, I would like a chance to vote for Obama or Gore if he runs. Just enjoy informing you all to the real Hillary, the pro Iraq war HIllary. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Yeah, just like your *predictions* that the CONs were going to win big in November?
You’re a complete *moron*. You can’t think, predict, describe, analyze or discuss.
You’re more useless than the sh*t in your diapers right now. Get it?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:38 pmHilary Clinton reminds me eerily of Lyndon Johnson. i get a creepy feeling that it will be the Tet Offensive all over again.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:38 pm#71 You haven’t been to KOS, have you? I guarantee you if you took a poll she would be under 10% here.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:38 pm#70 K, I am all with you on this one. Hillary is a warmongering righty. Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
The last 6 years demonstrates what war mongering is about. The Clintons don’t compare to that. You can say it’s degrees, or not – but sorry, the Righties are off the scale! No comparison! Bush is warmongering. There’s a new country on the radar to bomb every month. Hillary is not equivalent to this.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:40 pm#71 You haven’t been to KOS, have you? I guarantee you if you took a poll she would be under 10% here. Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Last time I looked, she was at 3%. Edwards was in the lead with 38%.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:41 pmGlenn Beck is our Julius Streicher.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:42 pmVVGU, it IS degrees. Hill is promising to be no better than GW. She promised to keep troops in Iraq if she were elected. She is a Bush. Screw the Clintons. They need to go.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:42 pmValiant Venus
You need to sit this one out and let the adults talk. You don’t have a clue when it comes to war mongering. Hilary has all the makings of a war monger, and the Dems have presided of many of the major wars. So just cool it. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
Hilary is a real problem when it comes to her position on Iraq. Her position is just like Bush’s. She’s trying to out Bush Bush. ANd this country just cannot afford that kind of game anymore. Too many lives are at stake. My son’s life for one.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:42 pmImperialists who smile and tell jokes as they take your resources.
Comment by ChildrenofLir
But.of.course.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:43 pmWar machine wont stop no matter who is president.
#83 Here at TP? I hope so. Edwards is my choice (if Gore doesn’t run).
March 15th, 2007 at 11:43 pmThe conservatives are just going for broke. It’s the last days in the bunker for all of them, and they know it.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:44 pm#83 And yet if the nomination was today, the Dems pick Hillary. The base hates her, yet the party pick her. I gotta even frown at that one :(
March 15th, 2007 at 11:46 pmI want one Dem candidate, or one damn candidate, to come out and clearly unequivocally state – withdraw the troops immediately, stop the funding now. That’s the one i will vote for.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:46 pmDamn straight. I support Glenn Beck and agree with him
March 15th, 2007 at 11:49 pmComment by firehead
You call one of us a Bitch you’re calling all of us a Bitch.
Don’t make me call your mother Firehead.
One more post like this and I’m going to have her kick your ass.
Oh, ValianVenus is your mother isn’t she? I could tell because you too look alike in print. Wait until she finds out about the bitch thing.
VVGU, it IS degrees. Hill is promising to be no better than GW. She promised to keep troops in Iraq if she were elected. She is a Bush. Screw the Clintons. They need to go. Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
That’s where we disagree, she is better. She’s already pointed to setting an appropriate *scope* of the mission, and reducing troop levels. She isn’t Bush, and that kind of over the top rhetoric is not productive. It’s like when all of the Nader whacks claimed that Bush and Gore would be the *same*. It’s utter b*llsh*t.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:49 pmMichael – If you disagree with a Leftist position – you are thought to be an idiot by a “tolerant” Leftist – a true oxymoron if there ever was one. Most (not all!) are defined by some. or all of the following: their hatred for conservatives, their envy of others, their guilt at their good-fortune, their sympathy for our enemies and the loathing they have for their country. They would willingly give up their American citizenship to be a member of the UN Global Community. They care not that most UN programs are highly unsuccessful – forget results, it’s the thought that counts. They have an ignorantly mistaken notion that our enemies can be appeased and “peace” achieved. The ONLY religion they worry about “offending” is Islam.
They clamor to impose higher tax rates – let them pay as much as they want in taxes. They make sociological and psychological excuses for evil and blame “society” for bad personal choices. So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:50 pm#89 You are right Roger, the base doesn’t want her. That puts the lie to the Republicans saying that the Dems are always playing to the base. They never do.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:50 pm#83 Here at TP? I hope so. Edwards is my choice (if Gore doesn’t run). Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
I agree. But I’d still take Hillary over any and every one of the GOP slime! They’ve proven to be nothing more than *enablers* and political slime!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:50 pmVVGW, she won’t even apologize!!! No, she is not the anti-war candidate and she will never get the liberal vote.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:51 pmDear Child – It seems Dennis Kucinich might be your candidate. Maybe you could get an appointment in his Dept. of Peace!
I’m sorry your son was drafted – what a travesty!!!!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:52 pm#95 I can’t stand Giulliani but he seems to be left of Hill. I can’t guarantee I wouldn’t vote for him over that triangulating succubus. Actually, I would stay home.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:53 pmThis discussion kind of reminds me of 1969 and 70. After work I would walk uptown in Manhattan to Rockefeller Center. There along Fifth Avenue, office workers would gather and discuss the war in small clumps. You could walk from one group to the next and voice your opinion. The war was getting worse, it had already been going on for 5 or 6 years full blast. And the middle class professionals were starting to get revolutionized.
THis time now reminds me of that time. The middle class professionals are starting to wake up and realize it’s up to them to stop this thing.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:53 pmValiant Venus You need to sit this one out and let the adults talk. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
And what will *you* be doing, when the adults talk?
You don’t have a clue when it comes to war mongering. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
I have tons of clues – I’ll spare a few for you, as you appear to be in greater need.
Hilary has all the makings of a war monger, and the Dems have presided of many of the major wars. So just cool it. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
Presiding over *wars* is not the same as war mongering – that’s your *first* clue. Bush and company are constantly trying to pick a fight – no, and I do mean *no* Democratic administration has been war mongering in this fashion. So just cool it. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about! Let me guess, you’re one of those *geniuses* that supported Nader for President, and claimed the Dems and Repugs were the same. Get a clue indeed! You need as many as you can get!
Hilary is a real problem when it comes to her position on Iraq. Her position is just like Bush’s. She’s trying to out Bush Bush. ANd this country just cannot afford that kind of game anymore. Too many lives are at stake. My son’s life for one. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
That’s where you’re wrong. The position she’s taken is in line with the ISG, a position that Bush won’t follow. I feel sorry for the risk of your son – but your claims are as much of a swiftboat as any GOPer. Get a clue!
March 15th, 2007 at 11:54 pm#93 MA, I know you are retarded and probably agree with the stupid crap Michael says. Says a lot about you, Gump.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:54 pmOh and the Democratic party was of no help then as it is of no help now.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:55 pm#97 Wow, you are irrelevant.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:55 pm“No, she is not the anti-war candidate and she will never get the liberal vote.” Comment by JPark
Wanna bet? The Left will vote for Hillary because they will NEVER vote for a Republican. I think Ralph Nader has the DLC nervous – but I don’t think Progressives and Socialists are stupid enough to vote for him again – everytime I see Ralph”the Spoiler” on TV, I always say, “Thanks, Ralph!!”
March 15th, 2007 at 11:55 pmI’m sure that’s something you do often — faking it, that is.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Zooey you are way too generous. How would VenerealVenus ever find somebody to fake it with. I believe she has dreams about faking it since actual men are way outside her realm of possibilities. I told her to stop taking guy advice from Ann Coulter but she just won’t listen.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:55 pmI think what disturbs me the most these days is watching dem canidates always act more like conservatives to get elected while we watch repugs always try to act more like a lib to get elected. What happened to people actually having opinions and standing up for them? Currently, all they do is taste the political wind and say what they hope the audience in front of them wants to hear. It is just so sad that even some here seem to be ok with that. Hillary and McCain are the 2 worst. Either one could easily be mistaken for a Dem or a Repug depending on their audience.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:56 pmGuiliani – no you don’t want to vote for him. For one thing, he’s in such deep denial it’s a tragedy. While he was mayor, he was divorcing his wife who was still living in Gracie Mansion, the Mayor’s mansion with their children, while Guiliani had his girlfriend living with him at the other end of Gracie Mansion.
I can’t tell you how sickening that was, not that he was getting divorced, but that he had no respect for his family. And he claims to uphold family values.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:57 pmValiant Venus
March 15th, 2007 at 11:58 pmMy son was not drafted. There is no draft. Hello. Earth to Venus.
What a bunch of scared little liberals who resort to name calling and call it debate! Valiant, you and zooey are the queens of childishness!
Comment by michael — March 15, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
Okay macho man why aren’t you in Iraq. You trolls are so fond of war as long as somebody else is fighting it. Sign up. They’ll take somebody as stupid as you now that they’ve lowered their standards.
Put your money where your mouth is hotshot.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:00 amRoger_Roger
March 16th, 2007 at 12:01 amYOu have only to study Lyndon Johnson’s tenure in office to understand what is happening now. If Hilary gets elected it will be deja vu all over again. The Dems that Hilary is beholden to are war dems attached at the hip to the military industrial complex and the belief that Americans are wiser, kinder and gentler than the rest of the world, so who better to invade other countries and set them straight.
“#51 I don’t think it needs elaboration. Why would it?
Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:06 pm”
Because anyone can say anything about another person. That’s easy. Now try backing it up?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:02 am#106 I probably wouldn’t vote for him but I would stay home if it was him vs. Clinton.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:02 amBeck, O’Reilly and Limbaugh have gay orgies at Rove’s place. I wonder who prefers the bottom? Eeeeyew-
March 16th, 2007 at 12:03 am#110 Mikey, when have you ever backed up ANYTHING that you have ever said? Try it.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:03 am“#52 Michael, you have never, in the many months you have been here, made an actual point. You do nothing but inject your personal view into the post. You have never presented one fact. No you attack those that have??? Grow up.
Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:10 pm”
I’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy! You make dumb comments like zooey and valiant and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. 95% of the time, you CAN’T!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:05 amComment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
Roger-1
March 16th, 2007 at 12:06 amI know this is confusing for you but Hillary hasn’t been nominated yet. If people here want to vote for her they are entitled to. It isn’t any of your effing business. Why don’t you worry about that great pack of candidates you have to pick from. You seem like the kind of guy who’d like the cross-dressing type – yep you’re a Guiliani man no doubt.
When we want your opinion on who to vote for we’ll ask but for now why don’t you just eat shit and bark at the moon.
“What a scared little conservative who resorts to avoiding debates! michael you are the *queen* of childishness! Tell me grandpa, is that how you avoided Vietnam? Servicing the General in return for your under the desk service?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:14 pm”
Valiant, what do you want to debate? Name it!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:06 amValiant, what do you want to debate? Name it!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:06 am
I want to debate why you’re so stupid that you’re incapable of debating?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:08 am“why do people even watch this sick bastard ?
Comment by truthfairy — March 15, 2007 @ 11:15 pm”
Why do you consider him sick?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:08 amI’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy! You make dumb comments like zooey and valiant and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. 95% of the time, you CAN’T!
I see why valiant venus is a big backer of yours. You say stupid crap and expect people to debunk you when your points are retarded. Ok, debunk this, Bush had sex with 43% of the Republican Senate. See? You cannot prove me wrong but it doesn’t make me any less of a moron for saying it. Try some facts, bitch.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:09 am“You request explanation for why Beck is a moron? How about explaining why you’re such a big moron that you need that explanation? Did you really think you were going to get away with that statement with me? St*pid old puke.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:16 pm”
Do you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look with a response like that? You make it so easy for me!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:09 amI’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:05 am
That’s good, because you’re too st*pid to know any facts. As for *exposing* idiocy, without facts, all you do is expose your own idiocy!
;)
You make dumb comments like zooey and valiant and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. 95% of the time, you CAN’T!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:05 am
You make dumb comments, and I’m going to challenge you to back it up. But 100% of the time, you CAN’T!
What should we expect from the brain damage of you hitting your head on the desk hiding from your duty in Vietnam. A coward like you is never going to be *right* again! Dum bass! HEHEHE
March 16th, 2007 at 12:10 amThey make sociological and psychological excuses for evil and blame “society†for bad personal choices. So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
Comment by valiant venus
Wow. Project much? This from a self-hating woman. Wow.
I’m glad you don’t have children, Haggie.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:10 amMikey, Dan Quayle would whoop your ass in a debate.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:10 amWhy do you consider him sick?
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:08 am
Are you so stupid that you don’t?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:10 amDo you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look with a response like that? You make it so easy for me!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Do you have any idea how stupid you make yourself look every time you post? You make it so easy for me!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:12 am“If you don’t know why Beck is a moron, there is no help for you, Chiam Yankel.
Did I think I would get away with making that statement with you?
Hmmmm, since I don’t give a flying f*ck what you think, say or do about anything, I’d say the answer is…..I DON’T CARE.
Run away, Michael! It’s debate time! You know what it is, and it ain’t about Kerry.
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 11:17 pm”
Well here it is for all you liberals to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and zooey doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you liberal losers!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:13 amWow. Project much? This from a self-hating woman. Wow.
I’m glad you don’t have children, Haggie.
Comment by Zooey — March 16, 2007 @ 12:10 am
Anorexia is a disease that involves a skewed perception of reality. She’s one fcuked up little c*nt!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:14 amThis is HIllary country. No site supports Hillary more then TP. The hypocracy is amazing from TP on this one seeing as though they claim to be against the war and for Hillary. How do you square that one?
Comment by Roger_Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Oh sure Roger you say its Hillary country so its Hillary country. Keep telling your Nazi-like lies. That might work for your dim-witted republican types but around here people know how to think for themself.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:14 amFrankly if we want to vote for Hillary we will but I don’t see any evidence that her nomination is imminent. Its all just part of your Rovian delusions.
“Alter kakher, I’m not the one who disappears every time the debate you agreed to (Any topic!!) comes up.
Topic: Michael is a complete and utter moron.
Michael’s task is to argue in favor of that position.
Well, momzer?
Comment by Zooey — March 15, 2007 @ 11:20 pm”
I think the grownups here notice how you avoid my challenges so I’ll ask again, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:15 amI think just about clears up the disagreement over Hilary’s position on Iraq. She’s pro-war. She also believes in that a squadron of tooth fairies can protect the reduced force in their endeavors.
If Elected… Clinton Says Some G.I.’s in Iraq Would Remain
by Michael R. Gordon and Patrick Healy
“Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission†in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.”
March 16th, 2007 at 12:16 amhttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0315-02.htm
Kerry and Bush are both members of the Illuminati lodge Skull and Bones at Yale. Kerry does what he’s told and likes it, as does Bush.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:18 amI think the grownups here notice how you avoid my challenges so I’ll ask again, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:15 am
Actually the grownups here notice how you avoid acting like an adult. Why do you keep posting something that’s a debunked lie? Because little *boys* like you are the cowards of the world. It’s why you wouldn’t go to Vietnam, and why you *envy* Kerry. He’s a *real-man*, and you’re a little *coward*. I would call you a *pansy*, but gay people are brave, and you aren’t.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:19 amNote to Hilary
March 16th, 2007 at 12:19 amWhile that reduced force is at it, could they come and clean my house.
So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
Comment by valiant venus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
VV you ignorant sl*t. You have pity for no one. You didn’t even pity your poor dead baby. Pity yourself you pathetic disgusting piece of human trash.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:20 am“I agree. But I’d still take Hillary over any and every one of the GOP slime! They’ve proven to be nothing more than *enablers* and political slime!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 11:50 pm”
How? Examples?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:21 amWell here it is for all you liberals to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and zooey doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you liberal losers! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Well here it is for all you liberals and cons to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and michale doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you conservative losers michael!
Michael, you’ve been a sad little boy all your life, now you’re a sad old man. Was it the sexual abuse as a boy that made you this way? Or the fact you *knew* it was your fault?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:21 amKerry and Bush are both members of the Illuminati lodge Skull and Bones at Yale. Kerry does what he’s told and likes it, as does Bush. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 16, 2007 @ 12:18 am
You’re a kook.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:22 amKerry’s not a real man. He’s a bought and paid for member of Skull and Bones, just like Bush, and he married the widow of a millionaire, who was also a member of Skull and Bones.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:22 am“#95 I can’t stand Giulliani but he seems to be left of Hill. I can’t guarantee I wouldn’t vote for him over that triangulating succubus. Actually, I would stay home.
Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:53 pm”
Why can’t you stand Giulliani?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:22 amHow? Examples?
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Why are you so stupid and lazy that you need someone to do your work for you? It’s just like Vietnam all over again. Too lazy and cowardly to be a *man*.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:23 amWell here it is for all you liberals to witness first hand. I ask a simple question and zooey doesn’t have the basic intelligence to even take a stab at answering it! Every time you hit that enter key you are confirming my criticism of you liberal losers!
Comment by michael
Waaaahhh!! Now everybody’s going to like Michael better than me! Everybody’s going to think Michael smarter than me! Booo Hoooo!!
Zalts im in di oygen, feffer im in di noz.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:24 amValiantVenus
March 16th, 2007 at 12:24 amIf you didn’t have Michael to insult, you’d have nothing to say. Sad.
“#93 MA, I know you are retarded and probably agree with the stupid crap Michael says. Says a lot about you, Gump.
Comment by JPark — March 15, 2007 @ 11:54 pm”
What stupid crap? Because I’m ready to embarrass you by backing it up!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:24 amValiantVenus If you didn’t have Michael to insult, you’d have nothing to say. Sad. Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 16, 2007 @ 12:24 am
If you didn’t have either GOP or Green party slander to repeat, you’d have nothing to say. Sad.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:26 amI think the grownups here notice how you avoid my challenges so I’ll ask again, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by michael
Topic: Michael is a complete and utter moron.
Michael’s task is to argue in favor of that position.
Dude, you said “Any topic!!” You choose this debate, alter kakher, so get started.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:26 amWaaaahhh!! Now everybody’s going to like Michael better than me! Everybody’s going to think Michael smarter than me! Booo Hoooo!!
Zalts im in di oygen, feffer im in di noz.
Comment by Zooey — March 16, 2007 @ 12:24 am
HAHAHA, that’s hilarious! Nerds, and those without social skills like michael are often confused by social dynamics. That’s why he’s been a loser his whole life, and blames everyone else on it. He’s just a Hendler redux, with more years on him to become a bitter useless putz.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:27 am“While he was mayor, he was divorcing his wife who was still living in Gracie Mansion, the Mayor’s mansion with their children”
Comment by ChildrenofLir — March 15, 2007 @ 11:57 pm”
Sort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval Office while Hillary and Clelsea were upstairs?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:27 am#143 Back something up for once, then, Gump.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:27 am#139 Because he is a mini-fascist, Mikey. Kinda like you.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:28 amValiant Venus
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.
Hilary believes that a REDUCED military force could – (1) fight Al Qaeda, (2) deter Iranian aggression, (3) protect Kurds, AND (4) possibly support Iraqi military
Now on what unholy basis could anyone possibly believe that a REDUCED force could do what an UNREDUCED force could NOT do?
She’s doing EXACTLY what Lyndon Johnson did when he took the reins upon JFK’s murder. Johnson BELIEVED the US military could jump through hoops and save the world. It was a sickening sight and it lasted too many years.
And now Hilary, in her brazen stupidity, is making vainglorious statements, thinking that she can use my son’s body in her REDUCED force.
She’ll get one hell of a fight from me. That’s for sure.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:29 am“Okay macho man why aren’t you in Iraq. You trolls are so fond of war as long as somebody else is fighting it. Sign up. They’ll take somebody as stupid as you now that they’ve lowered their standards.
Put your money where your mouth is hotshot.
Comment by shane — March 16, 2007 @ 12:00 am”
I gave the U.S. Navy 5 years of my life! How much have you given to your country, coward!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:29 amThey make sociological and psychological excuses for evil and blame “society†for bad personal choices. So as you see, we must have pity on them – they suffer an angst that is pitiful.
Comment by valiant venus
She says, smoking a Camel in bumf#ck, nowhere, dreaming of taking a bath sometime this month if the hose water ever gets warm enough. You really should get the plumber to your double wide soon. And please cut back on the malt liquor big spender I think its rotting your brain.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:29 amSort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval Office while Hillary and Clelsea were upstairs? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:27 am
How is that the same? Are you really *that* st*pid, coward puke?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:29 am“Beck, O’Reilly and Limbaugh have gay orgies at Rove’s place. I wonder who prefers the bottom? Eeeeyew-
Comment by R — March 16, 2007 @ 12:03 am”
You in the 5th or 6th grade?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 amI think the grownups here notice how you avoid my challenges so I’ll ask again, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Wow, Kerry got an honorable discharge and Bush dodged the draft but Bush is the honorable one. I would be surprised if it weren’t you Mikey.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 amIf you didn’t have either GOP or Green party slander
Valiant Venus, you are not very bright are you. Slander is speech. Libel is written. But i’ve given away too much information to you already. You’re a joke.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 amSo michael, hawaii, alaska or the phillipines? Where exactly does a cheap st*pid coward like you run to hide in retirement?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 am#142 ValiantVenus’ parents amaze me actually. They let this little kid post crude comments all day. I can’t believe they taught him all those naughty words. Kinda amazing that TP allows kids like that to degrade the discussion. New comers to this site read drivel like that and move on. I try to not even read his posts anymore as they are all the same trash. I don’t have a problem with someone disagreeing with me, afterall we are here to discuss and argue. My problem is everyone of his posts are the same. He never once address’ an issue or provides any insight. He, like the child he is, focus’ on insults and bad langauge. I wonder if he honestly thinks his posts make anyone feel bad? Maybe he forgot this is the internet and he is a nameless, faceless, nothing that matters nothing to anyone like everyone else here. The only thing that matters in a post is the topic of the post. Name calling is simply a waste of space.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 am#147 Jealous?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 amV V
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.
Hilary believes that a REDUCED military force could – (1) fight Al Qaeda, (2) deter Iranian aggression, (3) protect Kurds, AND (4) possibly support Iraqi military
Now on what unholy basis could anyone possibly believe that a REDUCED force could do what an UNREDUCED force could NOT do?
She’s doing EXACTLY what Lyndon Johnson did when he took the reins upon JFK’s murder. Johnson BELIEVED the US military could jump through hoops and save the world. It was a sickening sight and it lasted too many years.
And now Hilary, in her brazen stupidity, is making vainglorious statements, thinking that she can use my son’s body in her REDUCED force.
She’ll get one hell of a fight from me. That’s for sure.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 am#107 – “Valiant Venus
My son was not drafted. There is no draft. Hello. Earth to Venus.”
Comment by ChildrenofLir
ReallllY??No kidddding??!!! So IF your son wasn’t drafted by the evil George Bush, he V-O-L-U-N-T-E-E-R-E-D to serve his country.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:32 am“#110 Mikey, when have you ever backed up ANYTHING that you have ever said? Try it.
Comment by JPark — March 16, 2007 @ 12:03 am”
Again, if I make a statement I will back it up and I should but I’m not here to make statements, I’m here to challenge liberal statements and make lefties look like the fools you are!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:33 am#156 That skank says she (it) is a lawyer. It is always wrong so I am guessing it is either lying or I feel sorry for its clients.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:33 am#162 Mikey, you just admitted you don’t back anything up. That is our job. Kinda dumb of you.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:35 amV V
March 16th, 2007 at 12:35 amNo my son didn’t volunteer. Ah, it’s complicated isn’t it. Life. You think you know everything. But you don’t listen to people, so you know very little and you jump to conclusions. You make assumptions.
Sort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval Office while Hillary and Clelsea were upstairs?
Comment by michael
Where do you get your blow jobs, Michael?
Two for a dollar whores?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:36 am“I want to debate why you’re so stupid that you’re incapable of debating?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:08 am”
Are you an zooey in the same grade? Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:36 amI gave the U.S. Navy 5 years of my life! How much have you given to your country, coward!
No, Michael, you didn’t. MAYBE the merchant marines.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:36 amSort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:27 am
You gotta wonder about a man who thinks getting a blow job is a bad thing. Just how twisted are you? Or do you still believe it is better to give than to receive?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:37 am#166 Michael doesn’t get his BJs from females. He has to go downtown for the best trannies.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:38 amAgain, if I make a statement I will back it up and I should but I’m not here to make statements, I’m here to challenge liberal statements and make lefties look like the fools you are!
Comment by michael
So you know where life began and ends?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:38 amSo you know what a fool is and isn’t?
If you cannot answer either, above, then what is a liberal?
What is a Republican?
Can you truly say?
I think perhaps your a fool.
And you I.
Can you prove or disprove either?
Why do you let a word frame your brain?
And oh what a bitch she is. Have I mentioned that global warming is a myth?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:39 amMichael
March 16th, 2007 at 12:39 amThe difference between Guiliani and Clinton as far as extra marital goes – Clinton tried to hide his affair, Guiliani didn’t. Guiliani used the media to taunt his wife. It was an ugly thing.
ReallllY??No kidddding??!!! So IF your son wasn’t drafted by the evil George Bush, he V-O-L-U-N-T-E-E-R-E-D to serve his country.
Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:32 am
You could do that, except you’d blow away in the wind, just like the dried piece of sh*t you are.
Bush didn’t *volunteer* to serve his country, he *hid* in the National Guard to avoid service – as many whitebread rich boys did. Compare that to Kerry and Gore, both of whom volunteered for the *real* military, and served in *Vietnam*. Bush couldn’t even finish his guard *service*, because of being a strung out druggie. Yeah VOLUNTEERED – to AVOID!
You’re a st*pid c*nt!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:39 am“Ok, debunk this, Bush had sex with 43% of the Republican Senate. See? You cannot prove me wrong but it doesn’t make me any less of a moron for saying it. Try some facts, bitch.
Comment by JPark — March 16, 2007 @ 12:09 am”
I don’t have to prove you wrong! You make a statement, I challenge you and YOU have to prove you’re right! It’s called credibility and liberals don’t have much!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:39 amSort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval
Comment by michael
Meanwhile Newt was doing the same……….
March 16th, 2007 at 12:39 am#167 I am not sure you know what debate means. You could never in a million years win a debate. I am not sure why you keep asking people (I DO know why you ask for privacy, it is embarassing)
March 16th, 2007 at 12:41 amAre you an zooey in the same grade? Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?
Comment by michael
Yes, lets debate.
What is intelligence?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:41 amAre you an zooey in the same grade? Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Are you and valiant venus in the same grade? Because if you were, you’d know that grammatically you just said we *don’t* have zero intelligence, as in it’s, non-zero.
So to correct you *child-ish* grammar, Neither one of you have any talent and you both have zero intelligence!!! I’d be happy to debate with you michael, but you never do! You’re too busy hitting your head on the desk, just like Vietnam. Coward.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:42 amMichael
Here’s an example of the difference between Clinton and Guiliani. Guiliani used his affair to hurt his wife and children.
No Grace At Gracie Mansion
March 16th, 2007 at 12:42 amhttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,127260,00.html
“What will we tell the children? Republicans liked wringing their hands over that one, adding the bad example set by Bill Clinton to their reasons for impeaching him. So what are G.O.P. leaders thinking as their flagship mayor, Rudy Giuliani of New York City, risks damaging his children by publicly berating their mother and declaring his eternal love for a woman not his wife? On Friday his kids and the other 1.5 million children in the five boroughs awoke to tabloids screaming RUDY AND JUDI 4 EVER after Giuliani defended his girlfriend Judith Nathan in the wake of a PEOPLE magazine story. Giuliani gushed that the “very caring and loving” Nathan “doesn’t deserve being treated this way. I feel very bad for her, more than anyone else, because she deserves it the least.”
#175 That is my point, dolt. You keep saying stupid shit and you don’t back it up. Are you really dense enough that you didn’t get my point? You really are stupid.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:42 am“Actually the grownups here notice how you avoid acting like an adult. Why do you keep posting something that’s a debunked lie? Because little *boys* like you are the cowards of the world. It’s why you wouldn’t go to Vietnam, and why you *envy* Kerry. He’s a *real-man*, and you’re a little *coward*. I would call you a *pansy*, but gay people are brave, and you aren’t.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:19 am”
My God! If I had to guess you are still in grade school? You certainly don’t converse like anyone whose education has gone beyond the 8th grade. And you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:42 amI gave the U.S. Navy 5 years of my life! How much have you given to your country, coward!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:29 am
I’m a woman who graduated high school in 1971. That’s the first year they stopped the draft and they didn’t draft women then. And there wasn’t a lot of volunteering going on back then.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:42 amBut back to you. Where’s the proof you were in the Navy. Do you have something to back it up.
Some proof, some link, anything. Or do think we should just believe something you say.
I don’t think you were ever in the Navy and if you were they’d probably take you back now. Go ahead tough guy sign up. Do something instead of flapping your mouth about how important the war is. I believe in peace. You believe in war. Let those who talk it fight it. Go ahead sissy.
Note to ChildrenofLir: I have enjoyed reading your Left and Lefter banter with V.VGFYU, a water carrier for the Democrat Party- but PLEASE do not confuse me with the “Queen of the Coast” in Florida. That poor Tourrettes’ victim could think of no original moniker and hijacked my screen name.
P.S. Vote Nader!!!! or Camejo……OrR Medea Benjamin!!!!!
Toooodles…..
March 16th, 2007 at 12:42 amI don’t have to prove you wrong! You make a statement, I challenge you and YOU have to prove you’re right! It’s called credibility and liberals don’t have much! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:39 am
Explain why you don’t have to prove it’s wrong. It’s called credibility, and you conservatives don’t have *any*. Swiftboat lying piece of sh*t scum.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:43 amAre you an zooey in the same grade? Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?
Comment by michael
Well Michael, now you have two debate challenges. You seem to be anxious to get started, so you can choose my debate topic or VVGFU’s topic. It makes no difference to me.
Go ahead….
March 16th, 2007 at 12:43 amIt’s called credibility and liberals don’t have much!
What Michael is credible about the culture of corruption?
Why do you defend republican corruption while reiteratinf democratic ones?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:43 am#172 Oh, Stubby, thanks for showing up!!! Mikey, what he just said? A pointless statement with nothing to back it up. Like everything you have ever said.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:44 amAgain, if I make a statement I will back it up and I should but I’m not here to make statements, I’m here to challenge liberal statements and make lefties look like the fools you are!
Comment by michael
You made a statement that you spent 5 years in the Navy. Prove it. Back it up. Go ahead or else go to Iraq.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:44 amMy God! If I had to guess you are still in grade school? Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
My God! If I had to guess you are still in grade school?
See, even when I repeat your *gradeschool* grammar, it’s just st*pid! Like you!
You certainly don’t converse like anyone whose education has gone beyond the 8th grade. Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Project much grandpa? If you could spell, use punctuation or understood basic grammar – we might just think you were brain damaged. As it looks, you’re also ignorant and st*pid ;)
And you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble! Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
And you are a representative of the Republican party? Boy are they in trouble! Oh wait – they ARE!!! Dum bass!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:45 am#186 How is your sweet little daughter? Are you turning her into a sicko like you? Oh, wait, we already know you are. Perverted bitch.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:46 amV V
March 16th, 2007 at 12:47 amYou think it matters to me whether it’s you or someone else. it doesn’t. I use you just as you use me and everyone else. We all use each other to get our point across. Except I don’t think you have a point of view. I don’t think you have the courage to have a point of view. Sad for you.
Tell CNN you know it’s no use tell them that Beck is disgusting, so you’re going to contact his advertizers. I could only watch for one commercial block but i pulled off the following (Ask them if they think Hillary is a Bitch, and if they don’t then why do they want to be associated with Mr. Beck):
Crestor:
http://www.crestor.com/c/contact/
MBWestminster.com (my local mercedes auto dealer, you probably have a local commercial or two here.)
http://www.mbwestminster.com/contactUs.aspx
Herpecin
http://www.herpecinl.com/contest.asp
Dexatrin
March 16th, 2007 at 12:47 am(chattem – investor relations) http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=119581&p=irol-inforeq
ChildofLir – Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary. Now you might be worried because your son is in Iraq – naturally, a mother would worry. So if your son didn’t volunteer, what happened – was he given a choice of the service or “hard time”?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:48 amAnd you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble!
Comment by michael — March 16, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Right, Democrats are in trouble. Then why are you here. Why don’t you go to your people and tell them how badly you need Republicans to win. What do you think you can accomplish here. Why would you not be working to help your party. Because frankly here nobody gives a shit what you think or say.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:48 amWhy do you michael think in only two ideologies?
Why do you lambaste Bill but not these folks? Does your paintbrush only color by party name?
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
So by your logic michael Bill had sex with a willing, of age,woman.
Where as, by your groupthink, you are a perverted child molesting GOP apologist.
Care to debate that?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:48 amYes, lets debate.
What is intelligence?
Comment by Zep Tepi
ha ha ha! Hey, dont be so mean with michael.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:49 amBen Gleck is the stereotype moron.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:52 amAnd you are a representative of the Democratic party? Boy are they in trouble!
Comment by michael
And you are a rep of that above what I posted?
Boy are you in trouble.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:53 amwas he given a choice of the service or “hard time�
V V
March 16th, 2007 at 12:53 amYou are a soulless witless jerk who presumes to know what s\he is talking about – arrogant, stupid, vain, strutting, insulting – that’s you
Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary.
Of course he is worried about his son. Unlike you, you psychotic freak. You abuse your daughter and brag about it.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:55 amMistress Z ~
At least Mikey is admitting that neither of you have zero intelligence.
“Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?”
I’m so glad he realizes you don’t have zero intelligence.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:56 amGeez. He doth make it easy, dothent he>?
Cmon Michael defend your Republican ‘moral’ ideology.
Is what Bill did worse than these folks?
Debate me without a question mark.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:57 amwas he given a choice of the service or “hard time�
Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:48 am
This is the extent to which Mitey Coprolite/varmint genus can empathize: very little to nothing; proving, once more, she is not a parent much less emotionally mature enough to be one.
varmint, are you trying to update your dead child jokes repertoire?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:57 amV V
March 16th, 2007 at 12:58 amYour mother must have been one hell of a bitch. Or did your father get you behind the bar.
#186 How is your sweet little daughter? Are you turning her into a sicko like you? Oh, wait, we already know you are. Perverted bitch.
Comment by JPark
Dude, I only have sons. How did you know I’m perverted? :-D
March 16th, 2007 at 12:58 amChildofLir – Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary. Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:48 am
You listen? Bah! yeah right! Is that why you called Kerry Phony? You’re the Phony, you 23 year old pathological liar!
Now you might be worried because your son is in Iraq – naturally, a mother would worry. So if your son didn’t volunteer, what happened – was he given a choice of the service or “hard timeâ€? Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 12:48 am
Ah, another dead baby joke and mark of *sensitivity* on your part! You never change you st*pid hateful c*nt?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:58 amMichael what do you have to say debate king?
Answer me damnit.
You call yourself a Republican, then defend your group think.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:59 amDude, I only have sons. How did you know I’m perverted? :-D
Comment by Zooey — March 16, 2007 @ 12:58 am
He was linking to Aphrodite’s stupid post – not yours. I think it was the blog numbering fairy messing up again.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:00 amMistress Z ~
At least Mikey is admitting that neither of you have zero intelligence.
“Neither one of you have talent and zero intelligence! Let’s debate?â€
I’m so glad he realizes you don’t have zero intelligence.
Geez. He doth make it easy, dothent he>?
Comment by RUCerious
Michael is precious. I’ve been insulting him in Yiddish all evening. I wonder if he’s used “the Google” to figure out my sweet nothings? Oh wait, he doesn’t know how to use Google, what am I thinking? :D
March 16th, 2007 at 1:00 amChildofLir – Oh, I’ve listened carefully – you were worried about the safety of your son, and you called it correctly re: phony John Kerry and phonier Hillary. Comment by valiant venus
LOL, you got nothing V V.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:02 amV V
March 16th, 2007 at 1:03 amYour mother must have been one hell of a bitch, or did your father get you behind the bar.
He was linking to Aphrodite’s stupid post – not yours. I think it was the blog numbering fairy messing up again.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
In know, I was teasing. :)
March 16th, 2007 at 1:04 amV V
March 16th, 2007 at 1:06 amYour mother – she was one hell of a bitch. Or was it your father – did he get you behind the bar, or behind the kitchen counter.
michael,
regarding my comment: “PLEASE Write CNN. GB is just a disgusting human being.”
I can understand your confusion
Glenn Beck (GB)
George Bush (GB)
Which disgusting human being could i be referring to? Well given the topic of this thread, it’s Glenn Beck.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:07 amV V
March 16th, 2007 at 1:10 amWhen your father cornered you behind the bar, did you beg for mercy?
So Michael where is the debate?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:13 amComment by ChildrenofLir
You are trying to engage with a sad, tormented, shameful creature. It is useless.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:13 amMichael you said any subject, where are you?
Michael?
Mikey?
Mike?
Mic?
Genius?
Wise man?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:15 amJuan C
March 16th, 2007 at 1:15 amI will exact my pound of flesh for V V’s insults upon my son’s character. The price has not yet been paid.
The price has not yet been paid.
Comment by ChildrenofLir
Reading VV posts I can assure you she is paying that and more. She has to live with herself the rest of her pathetic life.
The problem is that other people here may have suffered the situation you are describing to her.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:20 amI will exact my pound of flesh for V V’s insults upon my son’s character. The price has not yet been paid.
Comment by ChildrenofLir
I disagree. The fates will decide their outcome. You, nor me, can exact a price, for if we do perhaps then we pay a price ourselves. =)
March 16th, 2007 at 1:20 amJuan C
March 16th, 2007 at 1:20 amI know about sad tormented individuals, and one thing you don’t do is enable them. V V is not sad or tormented. V V is sick. To be sad or tormented you would have to have feelings and a conscience. V V is the sociopathic type, who has no feelings or believes feelings to be fraudulent. A person who does not trust his/her own mind or heart. A sick individual, probably sickened by a sick parent. Hence my question – Was it the mother who was a bitch, or the pedophiliac father that caused the problem?
I remember, in campaign 2000, Michael Moore called G.W. “a deserter” and people on t.v. were just besides themselves with moral indignation.
so far “faggot” and now “bitch”
I’m still waiting for anything resembling the same level of feather ruffling.
any time now.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:20 amMikey?
Mike?
Mic?
Genius?
Wise man?
Comment by Zep Tepi
Michael always evaporates when the “D” word comes up. He knows he’s useless. He’s the Master De-Bater!
March 16th, 2007 at 1:22 amalso, save your breath writing CNN or ABC. they’ve decided he’s a funnyman. anybody who takes exception to what he says or sees a double standard in play is just a big stick in the mud who needs to get over themselves.
Republican money is greener than non-Republican money. it’s the only explanation.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:22 amI’m sorry – you probably already know that ‘deserter’ was campaign ‘04. I really do need to read these things before I post them.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:24 amThe Whitehouse was not Bubba’s Playboy Mansion.
I understand he was “doing the peoples work” when he was doing’ Monica.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:25 amI know it was consensual and …on and on
Hey Presidents get horny too!
Zep Tepi
March 16th, 2007 at 1:25 amI appreciate your ideals, it’s important to be a real human being, not an ideal. Come down off your pedestal and be human. Being human is the hard job. It means being crude and forthright. And that’s what i intend. I have no use for people who do nothing in order to be correct.
Flaco
March 16th, 2007 at 1:28 amBush only gets horny for Jeff Gannon
oops wrong post
March 16th, 2007 at 1:28 amChildrenofLir,
Zep is fine the way he is. Thanks.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:30 amBeck… what a f*cking amateur… Hillary isn’t a bitch, she’s a man-eating wolverine in a teal suit. Go ahead, keep underestimating her. It’ll be funny.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:31 amDon’t let michael pull the stereotypicall GOPer hand job on everyone and get everybody off topic. Even bashing this no-name loser is just taking us all off topic.
Find Mr. Beck’s advertizers and send them something like the following:
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
Since you are a sponsor of the Glenn Beck show on CNN, I’m curious as to whether or not you too consider Hillary Clinton a Bitch. According to Mr. Beck “She’s the stereotypical bitch.“
You support Mr. Beck, do you agree?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:32 amZooey
March 16th, 2007 at 1:34 amF off
Zooey
Zep Tepi is a new age wannabe and you are a human wanna be. Who the f do you think you are to tell anyone else what anyone else is or isn’t
Oh I know, you’re the pal of V V. Two sociopaths masquerading as progressives.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:39 amZooey
F off
Comment by ChildrenofLir
Wow. That’s pretty aggressive.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:41 amThe Whitehouse was not Bubba’s Playboy Mansion.
I understand he was “doing the peoples work†when he was doing’ Monica.
I know it was consensual and …on and on
Hey Presidents get horny too!
Comment by Flaco — March 16, 2007 @ 1:25 am
That’s right, that’s why Gannon had all of those sleepovers! Closet gay presidents also need sleepovers!
March 16th, 2007 at 1:41 amZooey
Call your friend V V and ask her\him if it is the mother who is the bitch, or was it the father behind the bar that did him/her in.
Ask your friend, that outstanding human being and dem supporter
March 16th, 2007 at 1:43 amIf trends continue, it’s only a matter of time before we see Glenny boy with lipstick, a ball-gag, and a cucumber up his ass.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:45 amExcuse the f*ck out of me, ChildrenofLir!
It is my humble opinion that Zep is fine the way he is. I’ve known him a long time, and he’s a good soul.
If you think I’m a buddy of Valiant Venus, you’re nuts. She’s a nutcase liar. I don’t know where you get that.
Exactly how did I lose human status, in your opinion? I really want to know.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:45 amZooey
Call your friend V V and ask her\him if it is the mother who is the bitch, or was it the father behind the bar that did him/her in.
Ask your friend, that outstanding human being and dem supporter
Comment by ChildrenofLir
What the hell are you talking about?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:46 amI’m sure that’s something you do often — faking it, that is.
Hmmmm, since I don’t give a flying f*ck what you think, say or do about anything, I’d say the answer is…..I DON’T CARE.
Those are both comments by Zooey
Need i dig further
The pot calling the kettle black.
So f’k off Zooey
March 16th, 2007 at 1:50 amZooey
I don’t give a good god damned what you think about Zep Tepi or V V.
ANd in my opinion, your opinion is worthless.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:51 amNeither of those comments are made to you. What is your problem?
Are you actually going off on me because I think Zep is a fine person?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:52 amANd in my opinion, your opinion is worthless.
Comment by ChildrenofLir
Ok then.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:54 amZooey
March 16th, 2007 at 1:57 amThis is simple
You don’t need to defend Zep Tepi.
Or do you?
Yeah that’s right, your opinion is worthless because you’re two faced. You say one thing one minute and something else the next to suit your needs.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:59 amChildrenofLir,
I defend Zep because I think of him as a friend. i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.
How am I two-faced? You keep saying I’m a friend of Valiant Venus, but that’s absolutely not true. I don’t know why you’re saying that. I really am missing something.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:02 amOk ChildrenofLir,
You do what you’ve got to do.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:14 amDamn does anyone over the age of 15 post here anymore ? This was a political blog spot , now it’s regularly overtaken by childish obscenities, name calling and nastiness.Its hard to tell the trolls from the legitimate bloggers .If I didn’t know better I’d say there was a conspiracy to destroy the relevancy of the websites blog space and turn off newcomers by making Liberals look obscene and ridiculous.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:16 amBloggers are having a major effect on the news media and the politicians . No doubt about it .There are many in the “establishment that would prefer it went away and until net neutrality is done away with this strategy is probably the best they can come up with .
I’m not here to present fact! I’m here to expose your liberal idiocy!
Comment by michael
Mikey is too stupid to realize that he exposes nothing but his own idiocy when he can’t present any facts (which is all the time, of course). I’m still waiting for him to tell me what illustrious graduates have been produced by his supposedly superior private high school.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:19 amTP should ban the profanity here which is way over the top.Insulting other bloggers is not a good debating skill and only cheapens the arguments !
March 16th, 2007 at 2:24 amI feel like the only adult in a room full of bad mannered adolescents.
Zooey ,go out and make some real friends in the real world .,this isn’t your living room and you aren’t entertaining guests here .Its a political blog site .
March 16th, 2007 at 2:30 amI feel like the only adult in a room full of bad mannered adolescents. Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:24 am
Yet your post sounds like a condescending brat. What you *feel* isn’t relevant. You’re just as st*pid and self righteous as michael and the rest of the right wingnut twits are.
March 16th, 2007 at 3:03 amDamn does anyone over the age of 15 post here anymore ? Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:16 am
Don’t judge everyone by your mental attitude. You shouldn’t call for profanity to be banned, while using it. It makes you look like a st*pid hypocrite, and right wingnut troll.
Its hard to tell the trolls from the legitimate bloggers .If I didn’t know better I’d say there was a conspiracy to destroy the relevancy of the websites blog space and turn off newcomers by making Liberals look obscene and ridiculous. Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:16 am
That’s true, because you sound like a st*pid right wing hypocritical troll. Your self righteous attitude would turn most people off – *sshole.
March 16th, 2007 at 3:05 amZooey ,go out and make some real friends in the real world .,this isn’t your living room and you aren’t entertaining guests here .Its a political blog site .
Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:30 am
March 16th, 2007 at 3:39 amI am wishing to find a television that is objective and not this politicizing. I have been years looking for it and never I have found it. When they create a television network that speaks of political subjects and is completely objective, it will be a great day for all. In addition to which it will be a great business because million viewers estan wishing to find something thus.
http://www.dovoyeur.com
March 16th, 2007 at 5:28 amDolores Claiborne:
Sometimes being a bitch is the only thing a woman has left to survive.
March 16th, 2007 at 5:52 amSo? What good is a woman who isn’t a bitch….
March 16th, 2007 at 6:09 amIf Babara had been bitchy enough, she could have murdered Bush for us – saved us trillions and more moneybags expenses.
Weird question:
Is there a male equivalent of the term “bitch”? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchy”, but not females? I really don’t know.
March 16th, 2007 at 6:19 amEarlier this evening, CNN previewed an interview between Paula Zahn and Beck in which he appears to “tell-all†about his addiction and his smoking a bong in front of his children like some love-starved Hollywood starlet in some pathetic attempt to look “human.”
Tell me something; is it my imagination or does it happen that every time this polyploid chipmunk gets himself into hot water, he ends up trying to redeem himself through some pathetic attempt at humility? When is CNN going to wake up to this jack-ass and their own gullibility? I know the answer to both questions, but Jesus, the objectivity of any such “expose” has the objectivity of Goebbels interviewing Goering. Sheesh!
March 16th, 2007 at 7:01 amWell, what kinda comment would you expect from a stereotypical, wife-beatin, woman-hatin, racist, incest-plagued, beastiality boy.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:20 am#261 Comment by David Carlisle — March 16, 2007 @ 6:19 am
“Weird question:
Is there a male equivalent of the term “bitchâ€? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchyâ€, but not females? I really don’t know.”
That is not a weird question, David. The fact of the matter is that there is no equivalent.
Some think “bastard” is the equivalent, but of course it isn’t. Both “bastard” and “bitch” are male pejoratives and both denigrate women. Bastard = Son of a Bitch, both of which are meant to shame/harm women.
Men who came up with and use those terms, like Glenn Beck, exhibit sociopathic behaviors and are dangerous to all women. Such men and their hatred of women are why we have had to pass rape laws.
My advice to all women is to stay away from Beck and his ilk for their own safety.
The fact that most folks who label themselves “conservative” (including the trolls on Think Progrssive threads) think there is nothing wrong with what Beck says, would indicate that they fall in the category of “Beck and his ilk,” and should be avoided by all women at all costs. These are very dangerous people who spend their lives doing other people harm, especially women.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:06 amGlenn Beck…stereotypical prick!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:15 amwhereas someone like Coulter is the stereotypical c*nt…
March 16th, 2007 at 9:20 am#263 – “Well, what kinda comment would you expect from a stereotypical, wife-beatin, woman-hatin, racist, incest-plagued, beastiality boy.” Comment by Falco — March 16, 2007 @ 8:20 am
Wow, I didn’t know that Glenn Beck was into beastiality.
Not that I’m all that surprised.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:24 amIf Hillary Clinton is a bitch, Laura Bush is retarded.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:44 amDS @267 – I suppose I was being a bit overdramatic there, kinda making fun of typical stereotypes…but if Republicans are constantly mis-defining us, I figure we could pair a lot of negative stimuli with “stereotypes” they are more closely associated.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:54 amValiantVenusGrewFromUranus when are you going to stop editing your posts for profanity and quit being a wimp and say what you mean?
March 16th, 2007 at 10:52 amIf you guys would actually listen to the whole context of what Glenn says, you would understand that he is not using hateful speach. He ALSO went on to say, QUOTE: “I agree with EVERYTHING she said! I’m just talking about HOW she says it! The tone of her voice makes you cringe like an old woman yelling at you to get off the couch and take out the trash or stop going out with the guys at night.” But you guys all convieniently ignore that part of his comments.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:40 amGlenn Beck is your stereotypical fat, pink, piggish, Karl Rove-ish GOP thug and it is a testament to the shit that passes as television programming now that he has any airtime at all.
It’s also a testament to the fact that too many Americans are outright morons.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:42 amThis is the equivelant of Beck calling Barrack Obama “Macaca.” What I don’t understand is why blogs like Daily Kos and Talking Points Memo aren’t addressing this and expressing outrage over this. It’s a sad fact about this country that there are progressives as well as conservatives, and women as well as men, who find highly intelligent, competent and successful women like Clinton to be a threat. They will tell you it’s not just because she’s a woman, they will tell you it’s specific to her, but I don’t believe it. It’s sexism.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:46 amI thought Glennnn was the stereotypical bitch.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:09 pmComment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 2:30 am
freeman, get bent.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:14 pmEverybody on here has taken the entire comment out of context and spun to meet their own peronsal bias/agenda/whatever. He never said “Hillary Clinton is a stereotypical b*tch.” He said, “Her voice SOUNDS LIKE that of a stereotypical bitch…I’m not saying that she is, it’s the vocal RANGE of her voice.” Everyone continues to ignore the full context of what he said and spins all around to make him say something else.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:51 pmDid he make these comments before or after he started sobbing on Paula Zhon’s show THursday about how terrible he was to people when he was a drug addict and alcoholic?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:08 pmComment by Flaco — March 16, 2007 @ 1:25 am
When some young woman is knocking on your door offering to give you a blow job you’d say no.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:15 pmYou’re not much of a man are you. Because as a woman I can tell you that I don’t know one man, not one, who would say no.
Of course you’ll never have the opportunity to test your resolve will you.
That’s mincing words. You can get away with saying anything, if you forgive a context like that. “I think Beck sounds like a child molster sometimes. Just the tone of his voice makes me think ‘child molester.’ That’s all I’m saying. He may not be, for all I know.”
Please.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:18 pmIs there a male equivalent of the term “bitchâ€? If there is, what is it? Or is it just that it’s ok for males to exhibit behavior which we call “bitchyâ€, but not females? I really don’t know.
Comment by David Carlisle — March 16, 2007 @ 6:19 am
No men under the same circumstances are called ambitious, aggressive, macho – all positive aspects of the male psyche. Females are just bitches. Hence the negative connotation.
Thanks for the question David often men don’t seem to notice the disparity.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWhen she’s yelling at these stupid rallies, you have to cringe and almost tune her out because her voice is that annoying. He literally he said he agreed with her words, it was the sound of speaking voice that he was talking about. Two people can say the exact same words. One can sound awful saying them and another can say pleasing and intelligent saying them. That’s all it is. There is a science to how people resond to the vocal range and pitches to people’s voices.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:30 pmHer voice SOUNDS LIKE that of a stereotypical bitch
Comment by Timbo — March 16, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
So instead of insulting one woman he chooses to label a whole demographic. Let’s see, when he was smoking his bong in front of his children he probably thought his wife was a bitch. And this is the guy you want to get your news from, go ahead.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:33 pmAren’t liberals the ones that believe that people can always be rehabilitated are turned from their previous harmful ways? Aren’t they generally the ones letting muderers and rapists out of prison after 5 years, and seeking shorter and shorter terms for drug offenders? He’s been clean for something like 12 years, but because he’s a conservative he’s still labeled as a dope-head. Were he a liberal, you wouldn’t even bother acknowleding such a past.
I don’t go to him for news. He’s not news. He’s social commentary. There’s a difference. His comedy bits and parodies (thanks mostly to his producer Stu) are funnier and more clever than anyone, left or right, on radio. Besides, he’s not LABELING a whole demographic. He’s referring to a demographic that has been STEREOTYPICALLY labeled! Consistency should have you on his side as far as that goes! haha
Oh well, can’t expect to find logic or intelligent analysis from liberals (just ask Rosie – upset and BLAMING the U.S. for Khalid Shaikh Mohammed’s confessions) so I’m done here.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:59 pmThat’s 100% subjective. I neither think she sounds unappealing nor “bitchy.” She’s not even a candidate I’m excited about, but I find her to be a pretty compelling speaker, just from the ability to speak and tone of voice, not even considering content. So what does that say? It depends on the listener.
I’d really like to see the scientific scale for “vocal bitchiness.” That’d be rich.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pmINDEED! This was a clear attempt to not only find a way to insult her without tackling ANY issues, but to diminish ALL women as potential presidential candidates since they may, at times, not act “traditionally feminine” at all times. However, if they did fit the “Mrs. Cleaver” role, they would, in turn, be insulted by detractors as not being tough enough for the job. It’s a no-win situation for females. This is why this type of insult needs to recognized and called out for what it is: hate speech. Does Beck have a right to say it? Yes. Do we have a right to call him out on it and tell other people how sexist it is? Absolutely!!
March 16th, 2007 at 3:02 pmYa’ll really need to lighten up! I like Hillary… may even vote for her. But I gotta say. That was the funniest damn thing I have ever heard!! I agree with some of her politics, but come on. If you are being honest, her voice is pretty bad when she gets riled up. As far as hate speech goes, just scroll through these postings and you will find the most seathing, festering hatered ever… from both sides!
March 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pm“Gee, what sophisticated commentary (sarcasm off) from a stereotypical undereducated neo-CON jerk.
Comment by Lora — March 15, 2007 @ 9:10 pm”
Perhaps you consider the following to be sophistcated commentary from well educated liberals?
Naw, its just that when he thinks about Hilary, his shorts get real roomy all of a sudden. Powerful women do that to sexist a&&holes.
Comment by j swift — March 15, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
You however, the term b*tch is where you wake up in the morning, the term c*nt is where you st*pid miserable *ss ends up every day.
And dear c*nt, who’s stalking who? You’re the one chasing the progressives to *our* turf – st*pid c*nt.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:07
Project much? The only time you confront a *moral* or *truthful* moment – is when we slap you upside your Anorexic lying head with one. You st*pid c*nt.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — March 15, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
Beck is right about Hillary’s voice.
March 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pmthe Prez sounds like the stereotypical inbred hick/cracker, even though he’s a silver-spooned Connecticut blue-blood WASP.
has beck ever said anything about how the prez sounds like a stereotypical inbred hick/cracker (or hillbilly)?
March 16th, 2007 at 4:30 pmPeople respond differently to certain vocal pitches just like colors, textures, sounds, etc.
March 16th, 2007 at 4:39 pmSort of like bubba getting a blow job in the Oval Office while Hillary and Clelsea were upstairs?
Please, take your masturbatory fantasies elsewhere, okay, Mikey?
They like this sort of thing on the Freeper sites. I guess that you do truly become obsessed with what you have never had.
March 16th, 2007 at 6:20 pm#286 CC
March 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pmI may not like the language in some of the posts you have cited. However, the big difference is that these posts are reaching a much smaller audience than Glenn Beck on CNN and the posters are not being paid big bucks (in fact, they’re paid nothing) for their comments. I still vaguely remember the days of newscasters and commentators like Cronkite, Brinkley, etc. who spoke with dignity and didn’t use schoolyard insults.
Sorry, Lora. With all the filth on this thread, it didn’t occur to me that you might actually be making a serious comment expecting a civil answer. I don’t view Beck as a peer for Cronkite or Brinkley. Although I disagree with their politics, they were always dignified on the air. I see Beck as the conservative alternative to Bill Maher.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:23 am