CAUGHT ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath
CAUGHT ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath
As ThinkProgress noted earlier this week, on Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told the Senate Judiciary Committee, under oath, that the Bush administration never intended to take advantage of a Patriot Act provision that allows the President to appoint “interim” U.S. attorneys for an indefinite period of time, without Senate confirmation.
I am fully committed, as the administration’s fully committed, to ensure that, with respect to every United States attorney position in this country, we will have a presidentially appointed, Senate-confirmed United States attorney.
The Washington Post published a front-page story yesterday on these remarks. ThinkProgress has located video of Gonzales apparently lying to Congress. Watch it:
But Justice Department emails from Dec. 2006 released this week show that Gonzales’s then-chief of staff Kyle Sampson intended to use this provision to make an end-run around the Senate:
There is some risk that we’ll lose the authority, but if we don’t ever exercise it then what’s the point of having it?
As the Post reported yesterday, “Gonzales has declined to address the apparent contradictions in detail, saying only that he was unaware of the specifics of the plan that Sampson was orchestrating.” Asked on Wednesday if he thinks any Bush officials have committed perjury, Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said, “We’ll find that out.”
Transcript:
GONZALES: And so let me publicly sort of preempt perhaps a question you’re going to ask me, and that is: I am fully committed, as the administration’s fully committed, to ensure that, with respect to every United States attorney position in this country, we will have a presidentially appointed, Senate-confirmed United States attorney.
I think a United States attorney who I view as the leader, law enforcement leader, my representative in the community — I think he has greater imprimatur of authority, if in fact that person’s been confirmed by the Senate.
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So, PROCEDE WITH CHARGES, for lying under oath.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:30 pmSo what’s going to be done about it?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 pmBedtime for Goonzales!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 pmY’all make too big a deal of this lying under oath stuff. Jeez.
/sarcasm
March 16th, 2007 at 12:31 pmHe needs Kay Baily Hutcheson to defend him.
/sarcasm
March 16th, 2007 at 12:32 pmAgreed, proceed with the charges.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:33 pmAnother one bites the dust. Heh heh
March 16th, 2007 at 12:33 pmAnother one bites the dust. Heh heh
Another one bites the dust. Heh heh
Seedy Gonzales & the Crisco Kid, reunited in Texas jail!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:36 pmAlberto Gonzales, resign immediately.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:36 pmLying comes so naturally to these people. They’re seriously ethically challenged.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:37 pmTake no prisoners, show no mercy.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAnd the Repubs argued that the Clinton impeachment was because of pergury….. Let’s see how many stand up and call for impeachment for Gonzo…..
I already know the answer but had to make it!
March 16th, 2007 at 12:37 pmnice work…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
March 16th, 2007 at 12:38 pmLooks like they can all be caught on the technicality of not telling truth while under oath. No way can anyone from this admin afford to tell any portion of the truth.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:39 pmDo you think that maybe Gonzo and DeLay can be cell-bunkies? They can take turns being each other’s be-itch.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:40 pmKay Baily Hutcheson ?? I must be missing something.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:43 pmGood lord, impeach this guy already…
March 16th, 2007 at 12:43 pmCharges need to be brought immediately, before the administration has a chance to distract the American populace with more of its fake terror crap.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:43 pmWhat I find interesting about all the current scandals surrounding Bush, including the U.S. Attorney problem is that conventional wisdom discredits the Democrats as the party of corruption and scandal. This seems to be like the myth of the “Liberal Media”—another triumph of faith over substance. The last four Republican Presidents have seen literally dozens of Presidential appointees, political operatives, and elected officials indicted, tried and convicted of major felonies from Watergate and Iran-Contra to Abramoff and and the “16 words”, Republicans have demonstrated utter contempt for the rule of law, while maintaing credentials as the party of honesty and gravitas. When are we going to get over this notion that “good men”, who follow orders are anything more than American versions of the “Good Germans” who did their “duty” but nearly destroyed the world? When will the press, and the rest of us, become willing to correctly identify the economic-political vision of the right (patriotism, corporate support, militarism, imperialism and intolerance) as FASCISM? Look up the term in a dictionary and read the definition, even if there isn’t a picture of Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Gonzales next to the term, the words should be clear enough.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:44 pmAG Alberto Gonzales should be “fully committed” to a prison for the criminally insane…
We’ve had seven years of treason with this gang of lying, war-criming, torturing, corrupting, bullying, smearing, sliming, election-stealing, spying thugs. Methinks that the end is near for this bunch of yellow-bellied banana Republicans. Of course, two summers ago, I said that the illegitimate Bush regime was in slow-motion collapse… Maybe it is finally happening.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:44 pmLying under oath is #1 on the list of:
March 16th, 2007 at 12:45 pm“Top 10 Reasons Gonzales Must Go.”
But but but… Screw it – I can’t apologize anymore for these deceiving, lying, spinning Bush Loyalists who don’t give a rats arse about telling the truth to the American people…
March 16th, 2007 at 12:47 pmDuring the January 18th hearing, Gonzales also pompously declared, “I would never ever make a change in a United States attorney position for political reasons or that in any way would jeopardize an ongoing investigation.”
But as the email exchanges between Gonzales’ chief-of-staff Kyle Sampson, White House Counsel Harriet Miers and Karl Rove deputy Scott Jennings show, that’s exactly what was going on. A damning Sampson email described the system Gonzales’ DOJ would use for ranking U.S. attorneys, keeping those who “exhibited loyalty to the president and attorney general” and sacking the prosecutors who “chafed against administration initiatives.”
More background here.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:48 pmLooking at the comment by Gonzo and the e-mails by his underling I don’t see how this could be held against as perjury. Granted it’s fishy and seemingly underhanded and dishonest but to prove that the he and the admin weren’t committed to what Gonzo said at the time and then they changed their minds after that point, when they discussed it with Sampson and others, would be next to impossible.
It’s another reason for him to go but perjury is a stretch in my opinion.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:49 pmI don’t mean to be picky here, but usually when you accuse someone of lying, doesn’t that mean that they say one thing and then you find that they say something else at a later point in time?
How does Gonzales saying one thing, albeit under oath, and his chief of staff saying something else prove that Gonzales was lying?
I support TP all the time, but I think that headline is a bit of a stretch.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:54 pm#10
here, i’ll help out the ones that may find it out to look in the dictionary.
http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2004/10/american-fascism.html
March 16th, 2007 at 12:54 pmImpeach! :) I know, I know, I know, Congress can’t impeach gonzo.
Alberto Gonzales is becoming a real liability to the Bush Kingdom. Off the back of train with Gonzo.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:55 pm#26 was for #19
oops.
March 16th, 2007 at 12:55 pm“#27
Impeach! :) I know, I know, I know, Congress can’t impeach gonzo.
Alberto Gonzales is becoming a real liability to the Bush Kingdom. Off the back of train with Gonzo.
Comment by CoffinsDrapedWithFlags — March 16, 2007 @ 12:55 pm”
Actually….. I think your incorrect about that!
I believe that Congress can impeach Gonzo.
They can impeach ANY administration appointed official. That is the way that the constitution prevents someone from remaining in power if they are committing crimes. Otherwise, there would be NO accountability.
Of course under the Republicans, this method of operation does not apply since they don’t believe in the rule of law.
But he can, and should be, impeached.
This way he can NEVER hold a public office again.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:01 pmOh…. #27 here is your proof…
Section 4 – Disqualification
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:03 pmIs there a fella
March 16th, 2007 at 1:04 pmin felony?
here is a keeper from Murrray Waas:
March 16th, 2007 at 1:04 pmhttp://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0315nj1.htm
CoffinsDrapedWithFlags sez:
Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that they could…
March 16th, 2007 at 1:08 pmYou beat me to it, RemoveBush.
Thanks. ^_^
March 16th, 2007 at 1:08 pmIs being committed to ensure the same as ensuring?
Sounds like a legal obfuscation to me… maybe he hasn’t legally perjured himself?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:11 pmArticle II, Section 4 of the Constitution states:
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
In the past this has included judges, a state senator, a Secretary of War, and two presidents.
Of course the AG can be impeached–and I would expect a huge argument to erupt in the House, led by the Republic party, that “of course the AG can’t be impeached” since for whatever crabbed reason they want to come up with he shouldn’t be considered a “civil officer of the United States.”
March 16th, 2007 at 1:20 pmGonzales must resign if he lied under oath. GOPers demanded that Bill Clinton had to resign for lying under oath, about getting BJs from Monica, so Alberto must resign for his criminal lying.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:22 pmto prove that the he and the admin weren’t committed to what Gonzo said at the time and then they changed their minds after that point, when they discussed it with Sampson and others, would be next to impossible.
It’s another reason for him to go but perjury is a stretch in my opinion.
Comment by dlet — March 16, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
I was thinking the same thing… he is referring to his state of being (I am) – which we all know and accept is subject to change (I was).
If it can be shown that immediately before and immediately after making this statement that he was planning on circumventing the senate… then maybe?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pmImpeach! :) I know, I know, I know, Congress can’t impeach gonzo.
Comment by CoffinsDrapedWithFlags
Yes they can.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pmNot a lot of troll traffic on this thread, I see. Tough to defend Gonzales here. It seems that even our fact-and-logic-free trolls aren’t willing to do it.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:27 pmI agree that Gonzales must resign if he lied under oath. Note, however, that Clinton refused to resign. Did you also urge Clinton to resign?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:28 pmSorry, VerbalKint, I had an early tee time this morning. Some of us have a life outside this blog.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:29 pm“#41
I agree that Gonzales must resign if he lied under oath. Note, however, that Clinton refused to resign. Did you also urge Clinton to resign?
Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 1:28 pm”
Not for a PERSONAL matter……
But once I found out he committed purgery!!! I was for impeachment.
NO ONE is above the law. Regardless of what law is broken. Especially when it is the President, who is suppose to uphold the laws.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:30 pmAs MUCH as I’d like to see Abu Gonzales brought up on perjury charges…
…methinks james k. sayre’s post at #20…
…harbors the two words that provide the technical shield Gonzo needs…
…to AVOID such a charge…
…”fully committed”…
…is NOT the same as…
…”will not”, or “under no circumstances”…
…get my gist?
…These are lawyers (at DOJ)…
…and every word they speak under oath is calculated with wiggle room…
…Libby’s is different because he flat out lied about a situation…
…where corroborating evidence to the contrary existed…
…Gonzo merely spoke of “intent”…
…his, and the Bushite’s “intent” to not use this Patriot Act provision…
…I’m no attorney but it certainly seems to me that…
…those two words will be Gonzo’s pass…
…sorry all but we’ve gotta be realistic here…
March 16th, 2007 at 1:35 pmI agree that Gonzales must resign if he lied under oath. Note, however, that Clinton refused to resign. Did you also urge Clinton to resign?
Comment by Jake
The opposition party will always urge resignation. Of course, with AG, you also have members of the republic party also calling for resignation.
If it doesn’t happen, impeach, just as with Clinton.
The republic party will need to do the calculus to see if it’s worth defending this boat anchor of an AG through an articles of impeachment vote in the house that they’re ultimately sure to lose (since they’re now the minority party–sucks to be them).
The last thing this administration would want is an ugly trial in the senate.
My guess is he’s gone–10 days tops.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:36 pmI agree with Dogjudge. I just don’t get how you could prove he’s lying. The Bush Administration never made one of these interim appointments. Sure, they plotted to, but once Democrats caught on they figured out that they couldn’t get away with it and became “committed” to not doing it. Again, I don’t see how that quote is supposed to be our trump card. I think Murray Waas’s article in the National Journal is much more damning than this, which is really the sort of lie that is commonplace in congressional hearings.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:36 pm“#46
I agree with Dogjudge. I just don’t get how you could prove he’s lying. The Bush Administration never made one of these interim appointments. Sure, they plotted to, but once Democrats caught on they figured out that they couldn’t get away with it and became “committed†to not doing it. Again, I don’t see how that quote is supposed to be our trump card. I think Murray Waas’s article in the National Journal is much more damning than this, which is really the sort of lie that is commonplace in congressional hearings.
Comment by badger — March 16, 2007 @ 1:36 pm”
You think that this is the ONLY thing that could be asked in the impeachment trial? There are plenty of other items that can be included in the impeachment that is provable. It could just be that this is the straw that breaks the camels back.
Stop being focused on this one thing as being the tell all and the only thing that will allow impeachment.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:42 pmRemoveBush and mongo:
We’ll have to see if Gonzales resigns. If he did not lie under oath, I hope he doesn’t just bow to the pressure. As for impeachment, be my guest (as long as it ends the same way as it did for Clinton — can the Attorney General be disbarred?).
March 16th, 2007 at 1:43 pmSeems like your vendetta should be against Sampson. But your BIG headline , “CAUGHT ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath” is then tempered with: “ThinkProgress has located video of Gonzales apparently lying to Congress. Watch it:”
So, TP, with a definition of apparent not as concrete as your headline would suggest, (”3. according to appearances, initial evidence, incomplete results, etc.; ostensible rather than actual: He was the apparent winner of the election.”) would you please make a more definitve statement. I realize some of the progressive worker bees who post here don’t have the time “working” in the “cube farms” to actually READ the entire post, so concrete info may be more helpful to them as they try to get out their “talking points”.
Remove Bush – Clinton’s “personal matter” was a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by a woman the Dems looked down their noses on – maybe in the Dem press it was a blow job driven story, but I would have thought Democrat defenders of the “rights of women” would be so cavalier about inappropriste sexual advances on poor public servants. Are you a hypocrite – or just ignorant?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pmRemoveBush,
You are right. In an impeachment they could ask Bush why Jeff Gannon stayed over night at the White House more than 200 times, when there wasn’t any press events scheduled. They could expose Bush as a Neo Con log cabin republican.
Do you think Jeff Gannon has a stained blue shirt?
March 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pmRemoveBush and mongo:
We’ll have to see if Gonzales resigns. If he did not lie under oath, I hope he doesn’t just bow to the pressure. As for impeachment, be my guest (as long as it ends the same way as it did for Clinton — can the Attorney General be disbarred?).
Comment by Jake
Whether or not he lied under oath is up to a jury. Based on the email evidence released so far, he’s clearly not telling the truth about what he knew and what he did. “Under oath” or not, why is he lying?
“Be my guest”–what do *you* have to do with any of this? Oh that’s right, nothing. Thanks for your permission tho…
The AG can be disbarred whether or not he’s impeached. Who cares if he’s disbarred?
Impeachment is inherently political and whether or not it happens depends on the relative political will on both sides to press the issue or defend against it.
Like I said, I give him 10 days.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:52 pmRemove Bush – Clinton’s “personal matter†was a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by a woman the Dems looked down their noses on – maybe in the Dem press it was a blow job driven story, but I would have thought Democrat defenders of the “rights of women†would be so cavalier about inappropriste sexual advances on poor public servants. Are you a hypocrite – or just ignorant?
Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007
Oh, look at this, a republic apologist getting high and mighty in the defense of the rights of women in an attempt to change the subject.
Jeez, the republic party successfully pilloried Clinton and got him impeached; move on already, now the subject is the myriad crimes and misdemeanors of the republic party. One thing the Clinton impeachment did achieve was to set a precedent for impeaching civil officers up to and including the president on the basis of perjury.
So thanks for that.
March 16th, 2007 at 1:58 pmMongo - I was merely replying to RemoveBush – catch up.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:16 pmMongo – Thank you for NOT commenting on the “apparent” discrepancy raised in my first paragraph about the DIFFERENCE in the headline and info in the body of the story. Your “political pretzel stunt” would have been worth seeing – my loss!
March 16th, 2007 at 2:18 pmMongo – I was merely replying to RemoveBush – catch up.
Comment by valiant venus
I know who you were replying to, I was merely commenting on your silly statement.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:20 pmQuick! Change the subject! Clinton! The rights of women!
And, keep in mind that Clinton did NOT commit perjury. Perjury is making a false statement with respect to the action the court is taking. Clinton was being deposed in an action with respect to Paula Jones. He lied about another issue – his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. I know it’s a distinction lost on Clinton haters, but it’s a valid legal distinction.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:21 pmPerjury is making a false statement with respect to the action the court is taking.
Indeed. Lewinsky was ruled immaterial to the Paula Jones case, and so no statement he made regarding the latter would count as perjury.
Moreover, under the definitions agreed upon between his lawyers and Starr’s, his answers in the deposition are legally correct, if deceptive.
March 16th, 2007 at 2:32 pm[...] Gonzales lies under oath: here. 2 Comments [...]
March 16th, 2007 at 2:38 pmWasn’t it here on TP that a story about Bush “sidestepping” congress appeared? I believe it was early in the year, or late last year before the Dems took over.
The thrust of the article was Bush had asked his cabinet to list all the ways they could achieve their goals without going to congress for anything.
I wonder if this is connected to that. Bush makes his wishes known and someone slips this provision into a bill about to be signed. Then they set about using it.
Someone should do the legwork on this (someone other than myself I mean). ;-)
March 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pmMongo – I was merely replying to RemoveBush – catch up.
Comment by valiant venus — March 16, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Actually you were merely *avoiding* replying by posting something irrelevant, off topic, and stupidly childish as usual – catch up st*pid c*nt!
March 16th, 2007 at 2:56 pmPerjury is a crime. AG may be headed for trial after he loses his job.
March 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pm[...] ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath Filed under: Uncategorized — recar @ 10:11 pm CAUGHT ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath VIDEO: On 1/18, Alberto Gonzales told the Senate, under oath, that the White House never intended [...]
March 16th, 2007 at 6:15 pmYup that guy should be send back with all the rest of the illegal mexicans.
March 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pm[...] article with video here. bush administration» gonzales» illegal» News and World» Video» [...]
March 16th, 2007 at 7:13 pmDoes anyone, anywhere is this country, think for one second that any member of the Bush administration has been telling us the truth about anything? If you think any of them have (been telling the truth) then YOU are the problem with this country, not them.
March 16th, 2007 at 7:16 pmtrial by guillotine!!
March 16th, 2007 at 7:18 pmI’m sorry for being thick…but what is being lied about? What is the importance of these statements? I’m just not familiar enough with the law and the rules around these appointees to get it.
Can someone explain to me, in plain english, what is being said here and why it’s so bad?
Thanks!
March 16th, 2007 at 7:42 pmImpeach them all for treason, perjury, murder and 2nd degree murder.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:11 pmCan someone explain to me, in plain english, what is being said here and why it’s so bad? Thanks! Comment by Matt — March 16, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
It’s because of obstruction of justice, perjury and treason. Are those simple enough words for you?
How about lying, and acting criminally?
Any more simple, and you’ll need to put on your crash helmet – dum bass!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:34 pm[...] read more | digg story [...]
March 16th, 2007 at 9:34 pmA wise man would resign. Let’s see what kind of man he is.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:44 pmBEDTIME FOR GONZO or THE INQUISITOR GENERAL GETS HIS–HOIST ON HIS OWN PETARD AND TWISTING SLOWLY, TURNING IN THE WIND–WHAT A SIGHT TO BEHOLD, HIS FOUL DEATH-RATTLE AND SOUND OF HIM SHITTING HIS OWN PANTS–AH, MUSIC TO MY EARS BUT NOT NECESSARILY MY NOSE–UGH!!!!! COULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED TO A CREEPIER JACKASS!!!!!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:49 amAlberto VO5 Gonzales,
They told me you were DEAD
With SIGHTLESS GLASSY EYES
And COLD UNMOVING HEAD
If there is a GOD ABOVE
To HIM I LOOK UP and SAY
“WELL DONE, SIR!!!!!
HIP-HIP-HOORAY and CALLOU, CALLAY!!!!!”
I PREDICT THAT Gonzales WLL BE FOUND DEAD WITHIN A FEW DAYS, HOPEFULLY BEFORE A WEEK!!!!!
Mexicans shouldn’t be in a position in office like that. He should be managing a lawn mowing crew or working at a Mexican restaurant. Leave the big jobs for white people.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:40 amsomeone tell this guy that this country is no mehico. This country should not be run as dictatorship. Asi!!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:16 amanon:
A wise man would resign. Let’s see what kind of man he is.
I said the same about Bill Clinton.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:03 am[...] On Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told the Senate Judiciary Committee, under oath, that “with respect to every United States attorney position in this country, we will have a presidentially appointed, Senate-confirmed United States attorney.” [...]
March 17th, 2007 at 3:01 pmuh, knowing it and proving it are two different things. hopefully gonzales will see that he’s f’d and get the f out without a fight.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:38 pm[...] Recent e-mails prove that the Bush administration always intended to skirt Senate confirmation.read more | digg [...]
March 17th, 2007 at 6:24 pm[...] On Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told the Senate Judiciary Committee, under oath, that with respect to every United States attorney position in this country, we will have a presidentially appointed, Senate-confirmed United States attorney. [...]
March 17th, 2007 at 8:05 pmSenators Bryd, Kennedy, Bidden, Feinstein, Conyers, Sumner, Leahy, “Bill” Nelson, Clinton, Chambliss, Isakson and Webb, I challenge you on the behalf of Major Pearlie Ann Lloyd while under the command of General Whitcomb was found dead in her room while on assignment in Augusta, GA immediately after being interviewed during an investigation of the Iraqi/Kuwait money laundering scandal to which she discovered that her husband and widower Lt. Cornel David Lloyd was conducting special operations “counter-terrorism” operations, specifically charged with spying against family members for political benefits and profits laundering overseas bank accounts- December 2004/January 2005 – October 2006. Mayor Lloyd was commissioned at the Fort Pierce Army Unit in Atlanta, Georgia Finance Department. She earned her Ph.D. in October 2006. Finally, upon Major Lloyd’s death a formal autopsy has not been conducted by the United States Army. Major Lloyd’s wish upon her death was that she be buried next to her brother former Navy solider Tommie Davis James in Phoenix, Alabama. Major Lloyd served the United States Army with distinction yet never received an honorable military burial by the United States Army. Again, Major Lloyd was allegedly found dead by a colleague in her room November 9, 2006. A moral service was held at the coordination of her spouse and General Witcomb without the express knowledge and invitation of parents, siblings and close family members. More over, during casket at the official funeral services Major Lloyd features looked abused and worked over as if to have die of unnatural causes and file play due to the secret operations work of her now widower husband Lt. Cornel David Lloyd. In addition, during the burial services Major Lloyd’s body was never formally put into the ground wherein her casket was left unmanned after interment services. Lastly, months after Major Lloyd’s death family members still have not received a conclusive investigation of her death; as well the United Army prior to Major Lloyd’s death prepared a Will providing for the care of parents that has yet been honored by the United States Military as a pay-back to Lt. Cornel David Lloyd along with a huge private insurance policy issued as sole benefactor in December or January 05. In or about December 2004, Lt. Cornell only learned of Major Lloyd’s wishes to leave 50% of assets to her dependent parent (mother) prior to accepting his conditional promotion to Lt. Cornel, and subsequent recruitment into the “counter-terrorism’ secret “spy†operations that meant unjustifiable spying, murder and character assai nations of family members (Major Lloyd’s parents and siblings) for political benefits and traveling with civilian contractors to Kuwait in what would later be discovered by the Army Inspector General investigation as a money-laundering operation. Family members discovered and later would recall that Lt. Cornel Lloyd after learning of Major Lloyd’s Will prepared and approved by the United States Army would not provide 100% benedictory to him upon her death. In January/February 05, Lt. Cornel Lloyd than secured huge amounts of private insurance policies with private insurers; as well had the private residency digital wired for spying on spouse, children and family members while visiting home. After learning of the family’s knowledge of Lt. Cornel’s actions which later would be the result of her untimely death, the United States Army attempted to dishonor Mayor Lloyd’s wishes initially alleging that a Will never existed. Yet, it was only after the receiving parent obtained the ser vices of a private attorney in Atlanta, Georgia; including the recent media reports of inadequate medical treatment of active Military and/or veterans military, FBI admitting to unauthorized spying of Americans and the Attorney General’s admission of firing U.S. prosecutors for political premise that the military (United States Army) as of last week has agreed to locate the Will. Such as the case for Navy solider Tommie Davis James who for years filed claim for disability benefits under the Veterans Affairs Administration. In fact, it was not until the story broke over the last week or so ago that family members truly understood the connection of these two related “secret death” operations of Military Active Duty and the Veteran Affairs Administration wrong-doings with regards to the medical treatment of its soldiers and veterans for political pay-back!
March 18th, 2007 at 1:45 amSenators Bryd, Kennedy, Bidden, Feinstein, Conyers, Sumner, Leahy, “Bill” Nelson, Clinton, Chambliss, Isakson and Webb, I challenge you on the behalf of Major Pearlie Ann Lloyd while under the command of General Whitcomb was found dead in her room while on assignment in Augusta, GA immediately after being interviewed during an investigation of the Iraqi/Kuwait money laundering scandal to which she discovered that her husband and widower Lt. Cornel David Lloyd was conducting special operations “counter-terrorism” operations, specifically charged with spying against family members for political benefits and profits laundering overseas bank accounts- December 2004/January 2005 – October 2006. Mayor Lloyd was commissioned at the Fort Pierce Army Unit in Atlanta, Georgia Finance Department. She earned her Ph.D. in October 2006. Finally, upon Major Lloyd’s death a formal autopsy has not been conducted by the United States Army. Major Lloyd’s wish upon her death was that she be buried next to her brother former Navy solider Tommie Davis James in Phoenix, Alabama. Major Lloyd served the United States Army with distinction yet never received an honorable military burial by the United States Army. Again, Major Lloyd was allegedly found dead by a colleague in her room November 9, 2006. A moral service was held at the coordination of her spouse and General Witcomb without the express knowledge and invitation of parents, siblings and close family members. More over, during casket at the official funeral services Major Lloyd features looked abused and worked over as if to have die of unnatural causes and file play due to the secret operations work of her now widower husband Lt. Cornel David Lloyd. In addition, during the burial services Major Lloyd’s body was never formally put into the ground wherein her casket was left unmanned after interment services. Lastly, months after Major Lloyd’s death family members still have not received a conclusive investigation of her death; as well the United Army prior to Major Lloyd’s death prepared a Will providing for the care of parents that has yet been honored by the United States Military as a pay-back to Lt. Cornel David Lloyd along with a huge private insurance policy issued as sole benefactor in December or January 05. In or about December 2004, Lt. Cornell only learned of Major Lloyd’s wishes to leave 50% of assets to her dependent parent (mother) prior to accepting his conditional promotion to Lt. Cornel, and subsequent recruitment into the “counter-terrorism’ secret “spy†operations that meant unjustifiable spying, murder and character assai nations of family members (Major Lloyd’s parents and siblings) for political benefits and traveling with civilian contractors to Kuwait in what would later be discovered by the Army Inspector General investigation as a money-laundering operation. Family members discovered and later would recall that Lt. Cornel Lloyd after learning of Major Lloyd’s Will prepared and approved by the United States Army would not provide 100% benedictory to him upon her death. In January/February 05, Lt. Cornel Lloyd than secured huge amounts of private insurance policies with private insurers; as well had the private residency digital wired for spying on spouse, children and family members while visiting home. After learning of the family’s knowledge of Lt. Cornel’s actions which later would be the result of her untimely death, the United States Army attempted to dishonor Mayor Lloyd’s wishes initially alleging that a Will never existed. Yet, it was only after the receiving parent obtained the ser vices of a private attorney in Atlanta, Georgia; including the recent media reports of inadequate medical treatment of active Military and/or veterans military, FBI admitting to unauthorized spying of Americans and the Attorney General’s admission of firing U.S. prosecutors for political premise that the military (United States Army) as of last week has agreed to locate the Will. Such as the case for Navy solider Tommie Davis James who for years filed claim for disability benefits under the Veterans Affairs Administration. In fact, it was not until the story broke over the last week or so ago that family members truly understood the connection of these two related “secret death” operations of Military Active Duty and the Veteran Affairs Administration wrong-doings with regards to the medical treatment of its soldiers and veterans for political pay-back!
March 18th, 2007 at 1:51 amHEY, check out the guy behind and to the left of Gonzales!!
I’m absolutely certain he just said ‘oh sh..! He didn’t get the memo!”
March 18th, 2007 at 1:32 pm[...] CAUGHT ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath [...]
March 19th, 2007 at 9:18 amGonzales should be impeached or prosecuted, whatever it takes to remove him from office. But he is not the instigator of this appalling policy of using every loophole available to avoid Congressional approval of appointees and the flaunting of the Constitutional checks and balances of the separation of powers with his “signing statements.” For their many crimes and misdemeanors, Bush and Cheney should be impeached also.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:22 amMuch as we want the dud to go down, it ain’t gonna happen from this.
Legally, i think he’s got “plausible deniability” and “reasonable doubt” by blaming the underling.
But everyone involved knows of his complicity. Who doesn’t read their CoS’s emails? So this should cause more investigations.
And there is the question of why the provision to appoint interims sans congressional approval was added.
The firings are absolutely insignificant compared to that provision. The firings, while underhanded, shady, politically motivated, protectionist for criminal Republics… ad nauseum… aren’t illegal.
But the PA provision opens the possibility to purge any “disloyal” USA and replace hem(him or her) with a corrupt crony. This is a bad thing(tm).
We can’t let the firings distract us from the addition perversion of the PA.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:32 pm[...] Current Federal Administration’s reluctance to have its minions placed under oath. The “under oath” thing, that [...]
March 21st, 2007 at 8:32 pm[...] Media Matters has documented, testifying under oath at a January 18 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Gonzales stated that the administration would not attempt to circumvent the Senate and would [...]
March 31st, 2007 at 1:37 am[...] ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath CAUGHT ON TAPE: Gonzales Lies Under Oath VIDEO: On 1/18, Alberto Gonzales told the Senate, under oath, that the White House never intended [...]
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