Bush ‘Pugnacious,’ ‘In Deep Denial,’ As White House Allies Press For Gonzales Resignation
Bush ‘Pugnacious,’ ‘In Deep Denial,’ As White House Allies Press For Gonzales Resignation
President Bush is the main force holding up the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, GOP sources say tonight. CBS News reports:
Republicans close to the White House tell CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod that President Bush is in “his usual posture: pugnacious, that no one is going to tell him who to fire.” But sources also said Gonzales’ firing is just a matter of time.
The White House is bracing for a weekend of criticism and more calls for Gonzales to go. One source tells CBS News he’s never seen the administration in such deep denial, and Republicans are growing increasingly restless for the president to take action.
Also tonight, CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux reported: “Wolf, I have to tell you, I’ve spoken to a lot of people who are friends of those here at the White House and GOP strategists. They want Gonzales gone. They’re putting a lot of pressure on this president. One of them said, look, Gonzales has a constituency of one, and that is the president. But tonight, Wolf, White House officials who I’ve spoken to say that that is exactly the person who’s saving his job, that the president does not intend to let him go.”
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If Bush refuses to listen to the voice of the people (again!), then it's time for them both to be ripped out of office.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:11 pmSo, is Bush REFUSING to fire an Attorney now an impeachable offense too? Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:13 pmLike Gonzo/So Bush - If Bush believes that his army of "one" is going to defraud the american people of their wishes (Repubs and Dems), then it's certainly time for the american people to bring Bush his just punishment for his wrongdoing. It's now going to seal Bush's fate and bring on impeachment proceedings for sure. People have been giving him a "buy" because he's a lameduck and the proceedings take too long and he'd be on his way out of office anyway. But this recent stance takes the proverbial cake....the american people have had a belly full of Bush's antics but hoped that he could simply leave, albeit without a positive legacy of ANY kind, but leave quietly without further embarassing this country. Now the gloves are off! It's time for this individual who believes himself to be on the fast track with his "father in heaven", who hasn't listened to the wishes of the people even once, and now is flaunting his army of one with regard to the wishes of everyone to dismiss Gonzales.....to be put out of office immediately.
He's lost the trust and respect of the american people and is a liability to this country worldwide.
Impeachment needs to begin now.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:15 pm#2 I'd say you're just damned.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:15 pmChimpy is being pugnacious? Say it ain't so...
March 16th, 2007 at 8:16 pmYou're a dipsh!t.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:17 pmSo, is Bush REFUSING to fire an Attorney now an impeachable offense too? Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
It is already established that *obstruction-of-justice* by a sitting president is an impeachable offense. The firing of the attorneys very well might be impeachable, if Bush caused it to happen.
There are so many reasons to impeach him though, why do you *pretend* this is the only one? Is that another bad *tactic* on your part, or are you just too st*pid to know what a complete fool it shows you to be?
Have you always been a bush-cultist? Or are you one of the *converts* that became crazy during the towers collapse?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:17 pmFreedom Is on the March!!!!
Freedom Is on the March!!!!
Freedom Is on the March!!!!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:18 pmDry drunk male cheerleaders with a criminal record are always pugnacious. Is this really news worthy?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:19 pmI thought you weren't responding to me anymore, veritas?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:19 pmSo, is Bush REFUSING to fire an Attorney now an impeachable offense too? Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
Comment by Jake
If that attorney or other member of Bush's team commits an impeachable offense and Bush condones or supports him/her it would seem there is another good argument for impeachment.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:20 pmFor the Gillmor thread:
"freeze out the troll before it spins more drivel."
Comment by veritas — March 16, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
"veritas is right. The troll that shall not be named hasn’t made a new point in 3 days. Engaging him is worthless."
Comment by erock — March 16, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
March 16th, 2007 at 8:21 pm#2 Jake,
Don't you see that Bush is a natural born failure. Everything he does fails.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:21 pmKarp's disciple:
How can doing something that is completely LEGAL be an impeachable offense?!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:22 pmHey Zooey, what does that mean.? My puter keep crashing on the google and I can't find that word in my old dictionary...LOL...Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 8:22 pmAnnouncement coming from the devil network CBS making such an inconvenient truth a double coronary.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA I Love it.
Condumbs reeeeeeeeeeling.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:23 pmDon't forget Barney
March 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmJake just can't let Alberto go, either. Give it up Jake. Seriously. Your guys are going down, and they are going down hard.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmI just cringe when I think that Bush could have nominated this rat for the Supreme Court, and as Chief Justice to boot...he would have been confirmed, too.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmHow can doing something that is completely LEGAL be an impeachable offense?! Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Obstruction of Justice is legal in your *mind*? That explains why you're the party of Abramoff, Cunningham and Libby! You have a *natural* criminal mind!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:25 pmDon’t you see that Bush is a natural born failure. Everything he does fails.
Comment by Willy — March 16, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
I get the feeling that Jake and Bush have something in common.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:25 pmPreznit Bush is having a break with reality. We're fast approaching the Nixon-wandering-around-talking-to the-portrait-gallery stage. Tune in next month for the "my mother was a saint" farewell as he throws the victory V's and heads off into the sunset on the helicopter.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:28 pmIt may be constipation. Has Condi let him have a bathroom break lately?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:28 pmBut who is Bush going to find that is as good as boot-licking as Gonzo. So many illegal things to hide and he was a main part of the plan for the '08 elections I bet.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI love the fact that Bush hates being told what to do. Yet there is absolutely no way out of this one.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:33 pmIt doesn't matter whether or not Chimpy fires Gonzo. Gonzo lied under oath. Whether or not he is prosecuted for that offense is the important thing...if that's done, his employment situation will take care of itself.
Personally, I hope Chimpy clings to the albatross slung about his neck that is Gonzo for as long as possible...every day he doesn't distance himself from him is another day he further incriminates himself.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:34 pmI get the feeling that Jake and Bush have something in common.
Comment by VerbalKint — March 16, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Yes, they both share the trait of being devoid of any personal responsibility while deflecting the *blame* for their actions on others. It's a very typical response from someone that's socially and morally challenged.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:35 pmPugnacious:
March 13, 2007 --Our White House Press Corps sources report further disturbing news about President George W. Bush. Our sources have witnessed a clearly inebriated Bush approaching members of the press corps and making rude comments, including one particularly crude remark about First Lady Laura Bush. In that case, Bush, nodding toward Laura, called her a "c**t." While Bush's drinking is no secret to the White House press contingent, that particular comment was reportedly the worst they have heard uttered by Bush. Our sources also report that Laura Bush's stays at the White House are less frequent and that her overnight trips to the Mayflower Hotel often coincide with the president's drunken binges.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
March 16th, 2007 at 8:35 pm#15 - Sharon
It means Chimpy is inclined to quarrel or fight readily, and can be belligerent and combative.
Can you believe it? :D
March 16th, 2007 at 8:35 pmFor the record, I don't think (a) anyone who gets elected (TWICE) President of the United States qualifies as a "natural born failure" by anyone's standard, (b) obstruction of justice is legal, or (c) that either Gonzales or Bush are guilty of obstruction of justice.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:36 pmIt is already established that *obstruction-of-justice* by a sitting president is an impeachable offense.
And don't forget that he ordered the extraordinary act of refusing Justice Department investigators security clearances so as to derail the DoJ's internal investigations into his own felony violations of FISA law. So there's more than one obstruction charge looming over this man.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:36 pmLet Bush hang on as long as he likes. It will help shake loose more and more Republicans from their slavish obedience to this lame-brained duck. Once disassociated from "loyalty to Bush", it will be easier for them to vote against him on the Occupation or other matters.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:37 pmsmerdblossom:
Is that anything like the former First Lady and Jr. Senator from New York talking to the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:37 pmIs that anything like the former First Lady and Jr. Senator from New York talking to the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt? Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Not sure, did she talk back? Because apparently the baby jesus talks to bush! Nothing *deranged* about that!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:39 pmWhen you tell the truth you don't usually have a "hazy memory" of the facts. Right, Mr. Snow?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:41 pmValiantVenusGrewFromUranus sez:
It's frankly astounding that the leader of the most powerful nation on earth claims to hear God talking to him, telling him to do stuff (like depose leaders of foreign nations) and the citizens of that most powerful nation seem to be OK with that!
If I claimed God was speaking to me, telling me to do stuff, they'd send the men with the white coats and the big butterfly nets after me. Why is this behavior acceptable in the man who has access to our "nukular" launch codes???
March 16th, 2007 at 8:46 pmI have placed the following post on two threads (shades of rachel) and no one has refuted it. Therefore, it has to be true:
Jake’s career is what made him what he is today.
He worked as a crash dummy for the NASA Rocket Sled program.
After each run they would scrape his brains off of the base of the sled into a bucket, turn him upside down, put a funnel into each nostril and pour them back in.
He still sloshes when he nods or shakes his head.
Every once in a while, the air relief valve at the back of his head malfunctions and a little grey matter drips out. Of recent, no one notices any difference when that occurs.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:48 pmWhy is this behavior acceptable in the man who has access to our “nukular†launch codes??? Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 16, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
Because too many deranged cultists like Jake are hearing their own voices.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:48 pmZooey, nah, I can't believe that..Snark...Only ill, bred, drunk's and druggies do that.....Oh!...I forgot he is....ROTFLMAO...
March 16th, 2007 at 8:49 pmHow can doing something that is completely LEGAL be an impeachable offense?!
Comment by Jake
Jake, the preceding is another piece of evidence that it is totally pointless trying to debate with you. The point you appear to be trying to make has been attempted before on several occasions and has been shot down repeatedly. You are either too dumb for words or are incapable of admitting you're wrong no matter how obvious that is. Adios and good luck. You'll need every bit that comes your way.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:51 pm#30 also believes in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:51 pmBesides Jake, can you PROVE bush was elected? Most of America believes he was not.
You're such a... Jake! Thanks Spudge for the New Word!
Jake
March 16th, 2007 at 8:53 pmBush was elected by a party line vote in the supreme court losing the popular vote and won a second election (?) by .6% on electronic voting machines supplied by a major supporter .
I honestly doubt he's ever been elected legitimately.
Nope, Walt, we can't refute it! It's just too believable.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:54 pmJake,
I'm just curious. Have you ever thought that perhaps the best way to live one's life is to try to live ethically and to strive to be on the "side of right" (by that, I mean doing the right thing)? Why do you align yourself with a party (Republican) that obviously lies almost constantly and is full of corruption, dirty tricks, hate and intolerance? I'm not pretending that the Democrats are anywhere near perfect, but I do think that they're less corrupt and less immoral. I don't know if you're religious, but if you are, wouldn't you want to avoid a political party (Republican) that obviously has reached a new low in morality? Or are you so scared of the big, bad terrorists that any and all immorality is okay?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI never said "legitimately" now did I?
March 16th, 2007 at 8:55 pmZooey, nah, I can’t believe that..Snark…Only ill, bred, drunk’s and druggies do that…..Oh!…I forgot he is….ROTFLMAO…
Comment by Sharon
I know! At first, I just couldn't believe it. And then I came out of that coma, and realized it's all true.....
Heh.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pmSharon its amazing your old iMac G3 still runs, if thats what I thought you said once. I love those Macs, I have 3.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pmI never said “legitimately†now did I?
Comment by Jake
See? Jake watches Law & Order all the time!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pmI honestly doubt he’s ever been elected legitimately.
Comment by freeman — March 16, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
DAMN RIGHT!!!
March 16th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
Into the bunker, like every other repub administration since Eisenhower.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:59 pmI never said “legitimately†now did I?
Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Ah, more *weasel-words*. Were you always a little coward worm, or did your *profession* help teach you to be one? Why are you such a coward jake, and why do you hate being a man so much that you continue to act like a toothless child? Where are your b*lls, you st*pid old coward?
March 16th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWhat is Rove telling the ChimpYa?
I imagined Bush sitting in a room with all his "handlers", kind of laughing about it, not really knowing shit, and just asking if "they" (Dems) are gonna impeach him yet.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWhoops some moron was using my computer posting under LukeHandbag. :)
March 16th, 2007 at 9:01 pm#44 - Jake,
March 16th, 2007 at 9:01 pmActually, no. You need to get the next volume, after K, to understand what that means. Good news, it will arrive at your front door in April.
Willy:
Yes, I don't, no, and no (not necessarily in that order).
March 16th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThe White House is the Titanic, and Gonzales is but the tip of the iceberg.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:02 pm1/3 of the American people Still believe that 911 was a put up job !
March 16th, 2007 at 9:03 pmOur prez told Jim lehrer that the federal gov't wasn't spying on it's citizenry outside the FISA laws but we now know that was a serious lie.He said that Iraq was in possession of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "which we now know was a lie or barring that a mistake which took the lives of 650 000 people .
What could you find to defend in this record jake ?Don't you like America ?
I absolutely love all of this.
Let Bush dig his heels in as deep as he can!
With everything that is falling down around him, I couldn't be happier.
Days of Watergate all over again.
It won't be the Democrats leading the charge against the President, it will be the Republicans.
They are starting to distance themselves more and more.
Hope things will just keep getting "better" for the President.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:05 pmWhoops some moron was using my computer posting under LukeHandbag. :)
Comment by ForTruth
Way to out yourself, Truth. :D
March 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pmJake you don't believe Bush was elected legitimately and you still defend him?
March 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pmYes, I don’t, no, and no (not necessarily in that order).
Comment by Jake
My dad is going to be like you in 10 years.
I'm gonna find him a nice "retirement" home at least a day's drive away.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pmIs that anything like the former First Lady and Jr. Senator from New York talking to the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt? Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
naw, more like Ron & Nancy consulting their astrologer!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI have had contact with four Presidents. Harry Truman merely grabbed me by the shoulder (I was but seven at the time), but there was a feeling of warmth emanating from his grip. Shook hands with Kennedy, Eisenhower and Nixon. Except for Nixon, they exuded warmth. Nixon's handshake felt like a cold fish.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:14 pmInto the bunker, like every other repub administration since Eisenhower.
Comment by Marlow — March 16, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Actually Eisenhower warned us against the facists corporate war machine/lobbys we face today. The MSM is owned by these war machine power elite ph*cks. Until this is fixed we are destined for perpetual war!!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:15 pmLuke Handbag, my computer and I are bothe considered relics....It was made mid 90's and me early 40's...We have both added new memory and learning but just about reached the limit...Can't even get spell check..LOL...Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 9:17 pmDamn straight, dixie.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pmRegarding Bush's 2000 election, I agree With former Sen. Carol Mosely Braun. Bush won because he got the BLACK VOTE...Clarence Thomas ;)
March 16th, 2007 at 9:25 pmThis is beautiful. Dumbya will resist firing Gonzo as long as he possibly can (and will continue taking political damage each and every day he holds out) and then, in the end he will FLIP-FLOP by throwing Gonzo under the bus.
So, Bush loses three ways:
1. He shows himself to be arrogant, in denial, and supportive of Alberto's corruption by resisting calls for his resignation.
2. He shows himself to be a flip flopper when, after digging in his heels, he's forced to fire Gonzo in the end.
3. In firing Gonzo, he loses one of his closest allies AND acknowledges said ally is too corrupt to remain in his position!
Bush has maximized the damage of this scandal and could not possibly undermine his credibility more effectively than he has.
It's hard, hard work looking this bad!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:27 pmJake
March 16th, 2007 at 9:27 pmyou are undoubtedly the bravest troll I've ever seen on this site and the only one .
I thought you weren’t responding to me anymore, veritas?
Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
March 16th, 2007 at 9:30 pmYour guys are going down, and they are going down hard.
Comment by VerbalKint — March 16, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Did Jeff Gannon show up again?
Sorry, my bad.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pmTHE KING IS DEAD MAY HE REST IN PEACE
March 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pmGeorgie is working on surpassing Mary Todd Lincoln as the most delusional person to ever inhabit the White House. And is it me or has Laura been MIA lately. I think Georgie is off his meds.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:35 pmRepublicans hate Gonazles because he's MEXICAN!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:35 pmNOT
March 16th, 2007 at 9:36 pmI think the headline of this thread should be changed to Jake 'Pugnacious', 'In Deep Denial'
March 16th, 2007 at 9:37 pmEveryone else hates Gonazles because he’s A SLIMEY BASTARD!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:37 pmFor the record, I don’t think (a) anyone who gets elected (TWICE) President of the United States qualifies as a “natural born failure†by anyone’s standard, (b) obstruction of justice is legal, or (c) that either Gonzales or Bush are guilty of obstruction of justice.
Comment by Jake
Word of advice Jake... move on and find another "Hero" to defend.
History will not be very kind to Bush and/or his supporters.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:38 pmHitler was also in denial when his inner circle started to unravel.
Lunes beget lunatics.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pmif the resigination, firing, thrown the hell out of the door literally, whatever it is i will set the tone. now for how hard bushwhack worked in hiring and firing his judges should tell us in the end that there was NO bigger vote than 06 nov. for the simple reason is that he was stacking it to save he and all of the other azzez that are about to go down in a blaze of glory for their treasonous, murdering ways now with a greater possibility of facing charges and NOT being saved.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pmEveryone hates Gonazles because he’s inhuman!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pmWar4Sale:
And, if he doesn't fire Gonzales?
freeman:
I don't think I am "trolling" if I post the trust -- maybe we should ask veritas though? As for whether Bush was legitimately elected or not, I'll have to take the 5th.
Back to the thread topic about someone in DENIAL -- I thought the following was perfect about the Giant Transvestite in Pink behind Ms. Plame today:
Comment by mbbsdphil — March 16, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
LOL!
March 16th, 2007 at 9:42 pmWon't bother me, JPV.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:42 pmPerhaps Bush should save everyone a whole lot of time and just resign himself.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:43 pmI would not like to see Bush resign (you want President CHENEY?!).
March 16th, 2007 at 9:45 pmI, just for the life of me, cannot understand how anyone with any semblance of dignity can continue to support the turds in this administration. I guess the old saying is true, shit always floats to the top. Smell anything Jake?
March 16th, 2007 at 9:45 pmWell, Mr. Evil, I think I'm making a pretty good point in post # 84 (unless you want to see a President CHENEY as well?!).
March 16th, 2007 at 9:48 pmIf your not sure a sitting president is legitimate Jake , are you really going to defend him ?
March 16th, 2007 at 9:49 pmYou seem like a good guy despite your politics , but continue defending a usurper to the throne and you'll leave no doubt that you are no friend of America or democracy .
Worse yet you'll lose my respect.
Gonzales is in his last throes, if you will. I doubt Bush will enjoy the pig roast this time when Congress grills Gonzales under oath.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:50 pm#81,
"War4Sale:
And, if he doesn’t fire Gonzales?"
That's the best case scenario of all! If he doesn't fire Gonzo, he reinforces his image as a crook. Bush condoned Libby's/Armitage's/Rove's/Cheney's corruption in the Plame leak/cover up and now he's condoning Gonzo corruption.
If he refuses to fire Gonzo, he forces his fellow Republicans further away from him (consolidating his lame duck status) and carves in stone his legacy as the incompetent who was even more corrupt than Nixon.
March 16th, 2007 at 9:59 pmTalk about backpedaling. Jake has been reduced to saying that Bush should stay only because Cheney would be worse.
Don't worry, Jake, if Bush resigns, Cheney will be impeached within days.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI hope he keeps him in as long as he can so it damages the administration's credibility further. Even the MSM is starting to connect the dots on this Justice Dept. scandal.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:07 pmI'm the Boy King and no one will tell me what to do! I'll stamp my fight and claim divine rights of kings and ignore the world and the voices of reason.
-King George W. The Turd
March 16th, 2007 at 10:07 pmThe longer Bush resists firing Gonzalez the crazier he looks. That may not be a bad thing. How crazy does somebody have to be for his own party to start calling for his removal. Anybody with a clue, that leave you out trolls, have any idea.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:10 pm"Today, in one of the most difficult decisions of my Presidency, I accepted the resignations of two of my closest associates ... Bob Haldeman and John Ehrlichman - two of the finest public servants it has been my privilege to know."
- Richard Nixon, April 30, 1973
March 16th, 2007 at 10:15 pmThis is great!
Using child psychology to goad Bush into not firing Gonzales is brilliant!
Each report that Bush is ready to fire Gonzales makes him more committed to keeping Gonzales. By goading Bush into keeping Albert the titmouse, the nation keeps pressure on the administration.
Who would have thought Bush was so susceptible to child psychology - who knew?
Brilliant!
March 16th, 2007 at 10:16 pmThings have gotten so bad that even ditching Gonzo won't be enough now. The revelations will keep coming until this administration completely unravels.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:17 pmzooey needs to get back in then real world. Y'know away form the morror and drop B>O>B
March 16th, 2007 at 10:18 pmRumsfeld
Gonzo
Its like the body politk is vomiting up the inner bile that has been churning for 6 years from this thing that has burrowed inside it called George W. Bush. He IS the cancer that the medicine called the dem congress is now starting to make the body inhospitable to its contamination.
Rummy and Gonze getting expunged is sort of like the dry heaves a cancer patient gets from their chemo. Eventually, we hope that the cancer goes into remission and then can be excised with surgical precision.
One only hopes.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmmirror
March 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmzooey needs to get back in then real world. Y’know away form the morror and drop B>O>B
Comment by wethepeople
If you could articulate a little better, I might understand how you're trying to insult me.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:25 pmOff topic / don't care...We are coming up on the 4th annaversary of this miserable war .I know what I will be asking is a lot, but how about a list of every service person who has lost their life to bush's war...Their age, where they are from and the date they died...Close to 3,200....Let' s see it in print....These live's are our's....Sadly there isn't enough room or the names of the 650,000....Maybe a reminder of the 1,500 from N.O would be another thread and then lest we forget the 3,000 from the WTC....All are by design or neglect the fault of this administration....When this is over and it will be, we must never allow this to happen again,never....Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThis is the first day in 6 years I've been proud to be an American.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThe decider will decide. He's eminently qualified to decide which nostril the white powdery stuff should be stuffed up.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:27 pmComment by wethesheeple
Doesn't the box spring keep poking you in back? You deserve a Medal of Valor for such selfless sacrifice.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:27 pm- Richard Nixon, April 30, 1973
And a glorious 24th birthday present to me it was!
March 16th, 2007 at 10:29 pmY’know away form the morror and drop B>O>B
Comment by wethepeople
I think he's got a crush on you, Zoo . . .
He's trying to get you to drop Bob.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:29 pmBarfly,
Ew. Any idea who Bob might be?
March 16th, 2007 at 10:32 pmBush is asking his group if he's impeached yet, he wants to go home now.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:33 pmEw. Any idea who Bob might be?
Comment by Zooey
You've apparently left a trail of broken hearts and crushed desires, and you're asking me?
Shameless trollip . . .
March 16th, 2007 at 10:36 pmZooey, I think he is refering to the hacker.....LOL....Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 10:36 pmJake, do you really want to defend behavior like this...
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003559541
Do you want the US to operate like a Banana Republic, or a Democracy?
C'mon, Jake. Get real here. Is this really the sort of America that you want to live in?
March 16th, 2007 at 10:37 pmOh no! Truth, is Georgie taking his ball, too? Waaah!
March 16th, 2007 at 10:37 pmChimpy knows that with Gonzo gone, his time and that of them all is one step closer. He must be really feeling the pressure and I am savoring every minute of his agonizing denial and resistance to the inevitable. This is all quite remarkable and it's a damned good thing I have such a sadistic streak and have the stomach for what is to come. It's gonna be nasty.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:39 pmYou’ve apparently left a trail of broken hearts and crushed desires, and you’re asking me?
Shameless trollip . . .
Comment by Barfly
Um....Who have you been talking to? :)
March 16th, 2007 at 10:39 pmZooey, I think he is refering to the hacker…..LOL….Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Well, that will be easy. As fabulous as hacker bob is, I will regretfully give him up -- to Mrs hacker bob. :D
March 16th, 2007 at 10:41 pm#99 Zooey
I can articulate very well and I hope I am not insulting you if I tell you that Granny told me to tell you to tell the (didn't make it past the AH filter)s that insulted you to go to the White House and join the other (**)s. Granny sends her love but makes me stay home!
March 16th, 2007 at 10:42 pmIf congress does move to impeach Bush, they'll be putting him out of his misery at this point. If they impeach Cheney too, they'll put the nation out of it's misery!
The bottom line is that impeachment is the compassionate thing to do.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:44 pmThanks, Clyde. You and Granny are the greatest.
Granny actually brought a tear to my eye, with her moving *** words. :D
March 16th, 2007 at 10:44 pmIf you could articulate a little better, I might understand how you’re trying to insult me.
Comment by Zooey — March 16, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
Zooey - I didn't understand either. I thought maybe it was a private joke. Apparently somebody's not as funny as he thinks he is.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:44 pmZooey, told ya not to post your diary on that site, now they all know....LOL...The love's of a lovely lady and the one's she left ......Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 10:45 pmUm….Who have you been talking to? :)
Comment by Zooey
We the people; and their cultish fixation of you is frankly speaking, getting a little disgusting. I just wish they could keep it to themselves . . .
March 16th, 2007 at 10:47 pmWhen do Republicans start doing something that's good for America? All we get with the Bush/neocon GOP is war, death, and debt. And a constant, corruption-filled, scandal-ridden shit-rain. And you thought it sucked being a Republican in 2006 . . .
March 16th, 2007 at 10:49 pmJeeeoooorrrgeeeee time to hang it up.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:49 pmZooey, told ya not to post your diary on that site, now they all know….LOL…The love’s of a lovely lady and the one’s she left ……Blessings
Comment by Sharon
I'll get you for that one, Sharon! I'm very patient! Heh.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:49 pmWe the people; and their cultish fixation of you is frankly speaking, getting a little disgusting. I just wish they could keep it to themselves . . .
Comment by Barfly
That would be perfect. They're all weirdos and perverts.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI finally saw Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest this evening.
All I can say is: WHERE IS THE KRAKEN WHEN YOU NEED IT TO SWALLOW UP THIS CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION??!!!!!!
March 16th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI think it is time to post our ideas on where all these rat's are going if not to jail..I think cheney will sell the wyoming ranch and go to DUBI...Bush will sell the crawford pig sty to a real pig farmer and go live with pappy in that foreign country...Laura will probably run off with a misuse...The old bush's will probably sell off the Main estate to Senator Kennedy cause he likes the view....Any one else.??..I'm going to go to Montana where the men are men and...never mind......Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 10:54 pm#116- I hate seeing animals suffer. We'll have to put 'ole Chimpy outta his primate misery. Then, we'll have to drive a wooden stake through Dick's heart and cut off his head to save his soul, too.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:58 pmI know, I have it coming....I just coulden't keep my word's to my self..I have a problem just like a big mouthed bass..LOL...Forgive me....Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 10:59 pmRecord heat in Arizona today. Hi.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:00 pmWarmest winter in the whole world, on record. I can't wait to see the Arctic ocean fully thawed.
/sarcasm
March 16th, 2007 at 11:01 pmZooey,
Granny is actually a Bush fan now! After six years of King George the Dumb my stomach gave up the ghost and said the hell with it. You may have Zooey and TP but you gonna have a Hiatal Hernia ad GERDS and a bunch of hurt too. The Doc says "Go get a swimming pool, chill out (actually a poor choice of words for the hottest this day ever in Arizona), and charge it off to Medicare (or at least as a medical expense on your 1040). The temperature an hour ago was 85 outside, 84 in the pool, and 102 in the spa. The medicinal fluids were plentiful and ample and the IRS has been kissed Goodnight. Unless the fool fires all the IRS sycophants we are clear for another year. Do you suppose DUHbya would like to come to our house and take a "dip?" The local EMT's are all democrats--so I guess we are out of luck.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:02 pm#129:
Hi. ForTruth.
Pretty mild in SoCal. I'll bet the highways are filled with "zonies," headed for the beach.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:05 pmClyde,
You and Granny are a perfect match. You two ought to go out on the road. :D
We were supposed to get 3 inches of snow, but that ain't happening. Somebody got ahold of an old weather report, I think.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:07 pmI know, I have it coming….I just coulden’t keep my word’s to my self..I have a problem just like a big mouthed bass..LOL…Forgive me….Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Sharon, you have no idea how many times I type up a great one, and then think better of it, and hit delete. It's probably best I do that! You're entitled to your zingers!
March 16th, 2007 at 11:09 pmMmmmmm.... Danish pastry
I love Danish pastry,
I am enjoying one now,
I love the apple center,
I love those little sugar balls
I love the frosting,
Fresh too.
I wonder if the Chimp
Is enjoying anything
as much as I am
Enjoying this excellent
Danish pastry?
March 16th, 2007 at 11:10 pmHere in Northern AZ, we get lots of dem dare Caly for onions too.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:11 pmWow! Clyde, hope it cool's down soon....Warmer and dry here today, but we had lot's of rain this past week....Warmer than usual for Washington State..Everything in bloom...Sorry to hear about the Heidel Hernia, had a friend year's ago with that..He could hardly eat....I send Blessings to you and Granny...
March 16th, 2007 at 11:13 pmBush removal ended Abramoff investigation
March 16th, 2007 at 11:13 pmhttp://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/08/08/bush_removal_ended_guam_investigation/?p1=email_to_a_friend
US attorney's demotion halted probe of lobbyist
I can’t wait to see the Arctic ocean fully thawed.
/sarcasm
Comment by ForTruth
Walking tours to Siberia!
Or finally visit Superman's Fortress of Solitude -- renamed Superman-land, the world's only waterpark with a ride that goes to the Phantom Zone.
I've recently read that those Geico neanderthals are getting their own TV pilot - I'll bet it's something about global warming; some neanderthals frozen in the ice awaken, and are brought to civilization. It's already been done before, of course, but I doubt if many remember the old series with Monte Markham, which was a bout a frozen '49'er.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:20 pmBushiva's recalcitrance will serve us well...
...the longer he pouts and throws a fit...
...protecting ABU Gonzo...
...the deeper the Dems will dig...
...and THAT's a GOOD thing...
...personally I want to hurry up...
...and get to where the money's buried...
March 16th, 2007 at 11:21 pmBreathe in.
Breathe out.
Breathe in.
Breathe out.
Forget this
and attaining Enlightenment
will be the least of your problems.
Let your mind be as a floating cloud.
Let your stillness be as a wooded glen.
And sit up straight.
You'll never meet the Buddha
with such rounded shoulders.
Deep inside you are ten thousand flowers.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:28 pmEach flower blossoms ten thousand times.
Each blossom has ten thousand petals.
You might want to see a specialist.
I'm with you big papa...Got a feeling this is gonna be huge, including Israel, Saudi Arabia and way beyond...
All the corruption that's going to show up is going to be staggering as well.....The worst in our history...
Time for the Bear to go tinkle, nite all....Blessings
March 16th, 2007 at 11:29 pmGoing into the November election Bush held tight to the twin anchors of Iraq War and Donald Rumsfeld. Result? -- loss orf Congress. Now going into the '08 election cycle, the chimpster is stubbornly clutching the anchor of Gonzo along with a rapidly unraveling trial of scandal that draws a bright line between WH and DOJ. The more the WPE (worst president ever) digs in his heels, the greater the fall for the whole rotten party. Let him hang onto Gonzales and be damned.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:33 pmSo the pugnacious, petulant boy-king pouts and stomps his feet saying, "I won't!"
March 16th, 2007 at 11:36 pmHis is a case of arrested development - the rich spoiled kid who can't handle big problems, can't make difficult choices that affect him personally -- never has and never will.
He has always left a mess for others to clean up; he has never had to face up to consequences for his misbehavior.
America is in big trouble - and the hole we are in is getting deeper by the week.
Gonzo has to go. But so does the boy-king himself. He makes poor choices, poor decisions; he's ill-informed and uninformed; he is not a leader; he only plays one in the White House.
Amazin' what a tad of oversight can accomplish.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:39 pmForce is followed by lack of strength
March 16th, 2007 at 11:41 pmthis is not the way of the Tao
that which goes against the tao comes to an early end
Lao tzu
You'd think the office of the President would always contain a person who is a thinker. What't wrong with having a thinker in office anymore? look at the candidates. Especially the Repuke's.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:46 pm#137 Sharon
Thanks for your concern. Actually, eating is not a problem. Unfortunately, it is stomaching Bushco that lead to all the problems.
Don't you be wishing cooler weather on us! We moved from Kelso, WA, for the summer, and the winter too. You are welcome to join us and Zooey in the Medicare pool when you get to Arizona (Offer open to all but AH (Copy Right) trolls). My Doc Buddy may decide that a visit to Clyde and Granny's pool qualifies as a legitimate medical expense so long as it applies to the removal of a malignant growth from one's well being. According to our resident scientist/biologist, King George the Dumb qualifies as a malignant growth on this Country.
Blessings upon your body in return!
March 16th, 2007 at 11:47 pmClyde,
I hope you have a big pool, because a lot of us need Granny's healing waters. :)
March 16th, 2007 at 11:50 pmIf you needed any more justification for Gonzales' departure, see:
"Top 10 Reasons Why Gonzales Must Go."
For the latest news, hearings, legal filings and other essential documents on the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings, see:
March 16th, 2007 at 11:53 pm"The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents."
Well, happy Saint Patrick's day. May the luck o' the Irish be with ya.
March 16th, 2007 at 11:54 pmZooey, Sharon,
It isn't that big but it sure could get cozy in a hurry.
One rule: BYOIV
(Bring Your Own Impeachment Vote)
(For Zooey's Eyes Only)
Dammit! Gonzaga went out in the first round. What is the purpose of life?
March 16th, 2007 at 11:54 pmYou should start the car, roll down the windows, turn on the a/c and let it run all night. That'll cool things off...
/sarcastic
March 16th, 2007 at 11:55 pm(For Zooey’s Eyes Only)
Dammit! Gonzaga went out in the first round. What is the purpose of life?
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
So sorry, Clyde. :(
WSU is still in, right?
Or is that verboten?
BTW, I have two impeachment votes -- long story....
March 16th, 2007 at 11:58 pm#152 For Truth
Bring trunks, leave sarcasm, enjoy. The end is near. The Bushco is goneco!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:00 amOff topic:
Bill Maher had an awsome closing on Bush trashing our civil rights tonight.
Someone is bound to have that one up in a clip.
Worth a look when someone posts it.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:00 amYou should start the car, roll down the windows, turn on the a/c and let it run all night. That’ll cool things off…
/sarcastic
Comment by ForTruth
Apparently it's true, that's what my dad said if I had the nerve to open the door and scoot in real fast. "Yer air conditioning the world!"
March 17th, 2007 at 12:01 am#53 Zooey
No Way, Baby! Go Cougs!
Hells fire! Use all you got!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:02 am@2 Jake:
So, is Bush REFUSING to fire an Attorney now an impeachable offense too? Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
Why, you're right. Dubya is damned either way. And damned crooked and damned stoopid and damned thuggish and damned partisan too.
Cheers,
March 17th, 2007 at 12:04 amApparently it’s true, that’s what my dad said if I had the nerve to open the door and scoot in real fast. “Yer air conditioning the world!â€
Comment by Zooey
LOL
Yegads! That sounds like my Dad.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:05 amPost #13, Willy: Bush is successful, don't you know, he's been good at war profiteering for the Bush Family Evil Empire, corporations, etc., at our expense. That's all he cares about. He'll go to Paraguay where he bought land after all of this is over so he won't be indicted and charged with war crimes and other offenses. Looks like the laugh's on us especially since the Democrats don't want to oppose him on anything, including attacking Iran!!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:07 amNo Way, Baby! Go Cougs!
Hells fire! Use all you got!
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
You got it, Clyde! :D
March 17th, 2007 at 12:07 am#24 Zappatero:
I love the fact that Bush hates being told what to do. Yet there is absolutely no way out of this one.
I hope that Dubya's even more ornery than normal and decides to fight this one out (with Republicans ducking for cover anyplace they can get it so they're not caught in the crossfire).
That would be the end of the Republican party for another generation, unless the Republicans figure out what's going to happen and join with the Democrats in asking for Dubya's head on a pike (like they did with Nixon).
Cheers,
March 17th, 2007 at 12:10 amYegads! That sounds like my Dad.
Comment by Wayne
I always wanted a brother. :)
March 17th, 2007 at 12:11 amZooey and Barfly, You lose! Again...
March 17th, 2007 at 12:11 amZooey and Barfly, You lose! Again…
Comment by wethepeople
Oh darn. Whatever....
March 17th, 2007 at 12:15 am#67 WarForSale:
So, Bush loses three ways:
1. He shows himself to be arrogant, in denial, and supportive of Alberto’s corruption by resisting calls for his resignation.
2. He shows himself to be a flip flopper when, after digging in his heels, he’s forced to fire Gonzo in the end.
3. In firing Gonzo, he loses one of his closest allies AND acknowledges said ally is too corrupt to remain in his position!
Shades of "Election 2006"! No one can honestly say that Dubya isn't a ssssllloooowwwww learnerer.
Cheers,
March 17th, 2007 at 12:18 amSee ya loser!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:20 amZooey
March 17th, 2007 at 12:24 amYou've been around here a while, have the trolls always been this organized?
They spread themselves out, 1 or 2 per thread, but there's always at least one waiting to pounce. Have they always been this bad?
Shades of “Election 2006″! No one can honestly say that Dubya isn’t a ssssllloooowwwww learnerer.
Comment by Arne Langsetmo
The half of all Americans that voted for him..... Twice!! are the real slow learners........
March 17th, 2007 at 12:25 amI only bake chicken on Wednesdays.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:26 amAlberto Gonzales is a faithful stooge to Pres. Bush Junior, so Dubya knows he cannot find another butt kisser like him to be Attorney General, which is why George refuses to fire Alberto. It's time for the Congressional leaders of both parties to have a frank chat with Bush baby to tell him that Gonzales must resign, Karl Rove must resign, and VP Cheney must retire as well. If Junior refuses, then Congress must impeach him ASAP!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:28 amYeah all those jokers need to clean out their old shit from the fridge, and pick up thier last checks. Cheney has 2 quarts of puppy blood, Dubya's got Jim Beam and beaf jerky. Berto's got that damn sauce that you can't read the lable. Condi's got her rice milk, curdled. Bartlett needs to get those damn peaches and pares out of there, they are rotted. And who keep letting Gannon store his "herbal life" in there?
March 17th, 2007 at 12:33 amZooey, have a great Paddy's day week end. I'm sure Granny will piss all over ya!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:33 amYou’ve been around here a while, have the trolls always been this organized?
They spread themselves out, 1 or 2 per thread, but there’s always at least one waiting to pounce. Have they always been this bad?
Comment by shane
Geez, they've been really bad lately, in general. It's my opinion that ThinkProgress got a lot of attention when ABC was airing that stupid 9/11 movie. This site was totally bombarded with every sick-assed troll alive, and it's never been the same since. Our comments used to show up immediately, but not since then.
Organized? I don't know. I think some of them have their favorite subjects -- like Daryll and his obsession with gay sex; or Seixon's obsession with trying to debunk global warming. Lately we've the stupids: michael, mandolin, Patrick, Flaco, etc. They're just here to disrupt, which they generally succeed in doing.
Since around the time you showed up (Hmmmmm...), or maybe it's just the BushCo meltdown, they've been in quite the frenzy. It's getting annoying.
Hope that helps!
March 17th, 2007 at 12:36 amZooey, have a great Paddy’s day week end. I’m sure Granny will piss all over ya!
Comment by wethepeople
Nice.
Get lost, pissant.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:38 am#168 shane
Who keeps score?
If two people have no difference of opinion, one of them is unnecessary. As long as we have trolls we are validated as an ultimate force. Besides, without the trolls who could we,besides King George the Dumb, call AHs (copyright protected for the metaphorical reference to the anus of selected ansuses).
March 17th, 2007 at 12:40 amThanks Clyde and Zooey
It seems like it takes forever to get to something of interest (or something funny) wth all the crap.
Especially the trolls who feel they have to respond to every post. Now they seem to be doing these looooong cut and paste posts. I just wonder what they're trying to accomplish. Probably nothing. I have never been able to watch Fox News because I found it so offensive so you gotta wonder how these guys can stand to be around here.
I know - this must be the Masochist Playground.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:57 am#173 wtp
I hope your reference to "Granny" and her uniary preferences was to a "Granny" other than my sweet bride of more years than you have brains. If so I apologize, if not, watch yo ass.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:57 amThat's it. Thats all you got! sounds like you nedd a nap.
March 17th, 2007 at 12:58 amloser!
Zooey, don't forget to shave that mustache... ni night
March 17th, 2007 at 1:02 amI call trolls dumb and it took me about ten minutes to figure out copyright protected AHs.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:03 amI didn't see the ABC movie did they mention this blog? Was it the movie that was in theaters with Nicolas Cage?
I watch way too much news and not enough TV.
Zooey, don’t forget to shave that mustache… ni night
Comment by wethepeople
I'll get right on that.
Don't forget your kleenex, lotion & magnifying glass.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:10 amShane,
It was a made for TV movie that was full of inaccuracies and outright lies, that tried to make it look like Clinton was responsible for 9/11. I don't know if Nicholas Cage was in it, but I don't think so. TP did a shitload of super-annoying posts on it, and some of the lies were taken out of the movie, I think.
This blog wasn't mentioned in the movie, but since they did so much reporting on the movie, it got linked by a lot of other sites, and the trolls swarmed.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:14 amshane,
Please indulge this monologue for a few moments. In the early 1950's I became involved with television from a technical standpoint that became the basis for a thirty year career in electronics. To this day, in my mind, the sole purpose of television is to provide a visual image of whatever sport is in season as an alternative, after reading and more recently , blogging. Television news is a joke--if you are in the latest traffic jam you can't see the TV and if you are not, who gives a flying "F." The point is that very few people today have the ability or inclination to think for themselves. I read and comment on TP because there are intelligent people here who do the same. There are also the uninformed and/or ill advised AH's (Copyrighted) who are dedicated to the disruption of determined dissemination of desirable dictum. To those despicable deuterium we describe a delectable demise.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:16 amThere are also the uninformed and/or ill advised AH’s (Copyrighted) who are dedicated to the disruption of determined dissemination of desirable dictum. To those despicable deuterium we describe a delectable demise.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
Heh. Fantastic....
March 17th, 2007 at 1:18 amZooey,
I love you. Granny loves you.
Goodnight.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:24 amClyde,
I love you both.
Goodnight.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:26 amI noticed that all the Trolls are away tonight.
I can only assume that they are out on the town, practicing their GOP Family Values™, by getting drunk and snorting a little bit of that good old fashioned Ted Haggard Brand® Crank.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:31 amI love you too.... Goodnight, sweetie pudding puff.
GET A F"N LIFE!
March 17th, 2007 at 1:32 am#171
Just do the impeachment and get it over. The Buck stops on the Deciders desk. Cheney would resign or go down during the impeachment hearings. Then President Pelosi could clean the White House.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:32 amFor the record, I don’t think (a) anyone who gets elected (TWICE) President of the United States qualifies as a “natural born failure†by anyone’s standard, (b) obstruction of justice is legal, or (c) that either Gonzales or Bush are guilty of obstruction of justice.
Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Ha! Bush wasn't elected the first go-around. Even the administration supports this. Ever read his bio at whitehouse.gov? It starts out like this:
Funny that his bio also doesn't mention his other business dealings. Guess pointing out failure wouldn't be prudent.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:42 amIt’s frankly astounding that the leader of the most powerful nation on earth claims to hear God talking to him, telling him to do stuff (like depose leaders of foreign nations) and the citizens of that most powerful nation seem to be OK with that!
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — March 16, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
The wife just finished a college course about the history of Western Civilization. I read some of the textbook; kings thought the same thing. Hmmmm.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:48 amI wish people would start focusing more on Bush than Gonzales.
According to Murray Waas...
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0315nj1.htm
This smells and awfull lot like OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE to me.
If we had a Press and Congress that had even a limp noodle for a backbone, this would certainly blossom into an Impeachment hearing.
They would have used this in a hot second, against Clinton, if they had the chance. Instead, they had to resort to a desperate, and absurd, "lying about a blowjob" attack.
Sigh.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:49 amI get it Zooey. Your so pathetic you want me to shave it for you. Thats a good one ...LOSER!
March 17th, 2007 at 1:49 amIs that anything like the former First Lady and Jr. Senator from New York talking to the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt? Comment by Jake — March 16, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
naw, more like Ron & Nancy consulting their astrologer!
Comment by n69n — March 16, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
And don't forget Nancy lowering her head and feeding lines to Ronnie at that press conference on their ranch in CA.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:52 am"WHA?" "I BEEN THE ONE TRYING TO GET AL BOOTED OUT, FER CHRISSAKES!!!!!" "WHAT IS THAT 'LIL GREASER STILL DOIN' HERE--I THOUGHT HE HI-TAILED IT OUTTA HERE ALREADY!!!!!" MUMBLED CHIMPya, RESTLESSLY LETTING HIS ID CONTROL HIS VOCAL CORDS IN HIS SLEEP....
March 17th, 2007 at 1:57 amI get it Zooey. Your so pathetic you want me to shave it for you. Thats a good one …LOSER!
Comment by wethepeople — March 17, 2007 @ 1:49 am
What's up with all this?
March 17th, 2007 at 2:09 amI think I might know who's attacking Zooey,but I'm not going to say.
I just can't believe that person would be up this late on a Friday night.
What’s up with all this?
I think I might know who’s attacking Zooey,but I’m not going to say.
I just can’t believe that person would be up this late on a Friday night.
Comment by troll alert
He/she obviously just got back home from a night out on the town, practicing his/her GOP Family Values™, by getting drunk and snorting a little bit of that good old fashioned Ted Haggard Brand® Crank.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:19 am#197
troll alert,
I have an idea who this is due to the continued mistakes of "your" and "you're" but who cares about this type of scum. They add nothing to the discussion.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:19 amAs the current corrupt administration dissolves into panic mode, you can see what "loyalty" means to the current corrupt president. You need to be loyal to him to the destruction of your career and your life, and he will be loyal to you as long as it is politically feasible. He learned that from his old man.
Now I'm kinda sorry I vehemently opposed the nomination of someone so pathetic as Gonzales. I was thinking of the country in the short term, but in the long run, watching Gonzales' inevitable destruction continues to unveil to the uninformed what kind of miserable, corrupt, unholy administration we have been subjected to in the past six years.
Gonzales is a dead man. When the current corrupt president professes "loyalty" to you, you are just a couple of news cycles from being fired. Ask Dumsfeld and Brownie.
Too bad Cheney (the current president in charge of Vice) and his buddy Rove aren't next!
March 17th, 2007 at 2:23 amClyde,
March 17th, 2007 at 2:37 amNot sure where you are in Arizona, but in the Phoenix area, it hit 99 today.. and it's only March!
But..back to topic.. I say impeach Bush and Cheney and let Pres. Pelosi appoint her own AG!
Comment by dlet — March 17, 2007 @ 2:19 am
Don't forget,some of these 'mistakes' could be being done on purpose.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:38 amI think this person is a regular with a grudge.
I havn't read all the posts,but it seems this person attacked Zooey without prior conversation.
Ofcourse Bush doesn't want him to go.He'll have to find a new dog to train and his time is quickly running out.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:39 amI hope he sleeps poorly.
Troll alert nerd and dlet nerd. I am not GOP!
I don't give a shit what you think of my spelling. I'm expressing my opinion of a smart ass (zooey, barfly) who throw insults at other people who may have something to say!
If you don't like it...I got TWO WORDS FOR YA! The Constitution.
TrollNeardalert and nerdlet. You think that your opinions are the only ones that matter and treat this site like its your own personal chat room.
I like to read what other people are thinking, that asurres me that i'm not the only one who's seeing whats going on. And i don't like seeing my country being taken away from me by elitist attitudes that YOU ARE exipediting right now.
You think you know who it is. Then bring your ass over hear.
Other STFU and go back into your little blog world where you think typing is getting anything done while soldiers are dying in Iraq.
If you don't like it, just do what you've been doing for the last 6 YEARS and suck it!
You gotta problem BRING IT!
March 17th, 2007 at 2:58 am"...bring your ass over hear." Comment # 204 by wethepeople — March 17, 2007 @ 2:58 am
Sorry, ignorant troll, don't want to hear you ass!
UNDER THE BRIDGE, NASTY TROLL!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:11 amThen bring your ass over hear.
Comment by wethepeople
I hear just fine,but not from that part of my body. LOL
March 17th, 2007 at 3:15 amBTW. It was JPV who mentioned your GOP. family values.
198 Hello!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:21 amsorry 199
March 17th, 2007 at 3:23 amFIRING GONZALEZ ACCOMPLISHES MOTHING! He gets his lifetime pension, doesn't he? He takes the fall for Karl Rove doesn't he? And the REAL DAMAGE is being done as this ridiculous process unfolds, namely, the investigation into the Jack Abramoff bribery scandal, a scandal that had those investigations continued to indictments, would have CRIPPLED THE GOP well into the 08 elections and beyond. But thanks to Karl Rove, those investigations have been stopped. And we will hear no more about Jack Abramoff nor the GOP Congressmen he bribed.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:30 amLeave Alberto be. The horse is already out of the barn.
You gotta problem BRING IT!
Comment by wethepeople
IDIOT!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:31 amSorry IGNORANT ASSED HTERRYA ( NICE GAY NAME BTW). you ignorant assed f--king troll who spends most of his day between Karl Rove's Legs lapping up what ever residual spew that might flow!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:34 amthrow some more insults. htyerra
March 17th, 2007 at 3:39 amjpv how educated, you spelled idiot right. Now what are you gonna do!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:44 amIs that how your gonna take your country back. WOW your smart. I bet you WISH you had a degree.
I don't usually do this. Is this what we have to do to get our country back. Insult everyone when ever they say something.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:50 amI tell ya you guys are good, but i'm a fast learner.
jpv how educated, you spelled idiot right. Now what are you gonna do!
Is that how your gonna take your country back. WOW your smart. I bet you WISH you had a degree.
Comment by wethepeople
It's not like you're here to engage in any useful debate or anything.
You're obviously just here to be a jerk.
Expect to be treated as such.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:07 amIT TOOK jpv SEVEN MINUTES TO SPELL IDIOT.
NOW THATS EPIC!........LMFAO
March 17th, 2007 at 4:08 amIT TOOK jpv SEVEN MINUTES TO SPELL IDIOT.
NOW THATS EPIC!……..LMFAO
Comment by wethepeople
Yeah, it's pretty easy being the big mouth while hiding behind a fake name and typing away on a computer keyboard.
Try walking into some bar and start mouthing off in the same manner.
Come back later and tell us how it went.
Big brave man.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:16 amInsult everyone when ever they say something.
Comment by wethepeople — March 17, 2007 @ 3:50 am
You mean like what you did to Zooey,huh.
wethepeople = Rachel
troll alert,over and out.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:17 amWhat a sad sick individual.
Oh well, I suppose it takes all types.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:21 amNot real bright in the brain pan are ya Junior? Bars are closed now. I hope your not gonna be our next elected official. 1st step will be for you to get out from under Roves desk. I am big, but i didn't know were starring. Meat gazer
March 17th, 2007 at 4:24 amtroll alert, you are RETARDED and i don't mean mental
You mean like what you did to Zooey,huh.
wethepeople = Rachel
Yeah, i did her. and now i'm doin you. And what are doin with your left hand. You need to stop
March 17th, 2007 at 4:31 amYou amaze me. You all talk like you hang out together.
OMG.... its a circle.......
March 17th, 2007 at 4:35 amNot real bright in the brain pan are ya Junior? Bars are closed now.
Comment by wethepeople
They are still open here where I live.
Idiot.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:38 amYou use that word alot, must of rubbed off from your mother calling you that all the time, It's hard to break old habits. isn't that right junior pedophile villain
March 17th, 2007 at 4:43 amYou use that word alot, must of rubbed off from your mother calling you that all the time, It’s hard to break old habits. isn’t that right junior pedophile villain
Comment by wethepeople
WOW! YOU MUST BE PSYCHIC!
March 17th, 2007 at 4:44 amSo, JPV is from the KKK.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:49 amyou are speaking for yourself. Mr. KKK
March 17th, 2007 at 4:50 amChronic Troll Syndrome
From Encyclopedia Dramatica
Chronic Troll Syndrome (CTS) is an internet disease (not to be confused with Internet disease) that is generally present in trolls. It causes the given troll to be unable to tell the difference between internet and IRL limits.
As a result, the troll is no longer able to comprehend what is appropriate to say and do when dealing with IRL people in contrast with the Internets. Symptoms include being inconsiderate and generally asshatty to friends and family, the common offensive use of racial epithets, and a tendency to interfere in other people's business uninvited "for the laughs." This in turn leads to a loss of said friends, associates of minority status, and a general alienation of all contacts outside of the Internet.
Treatment
Chronic Troll Syndrome is easily cured by having said troll call a black person a n*gger on the street, or refer to all of their gay friends as fags. The resulting *ss-beating will generally shock the troll back into recognition of boundaries. However, if a case has continued untreated for long enough, this treatment may prove ineffective and only encourage the said troll. Additional loss of job, limbs, marital status, and life may be neccessary for more advanced cases. It is also possible to limit the damage by simply making sure that the troll has no IRL friends that (s)he can offend. This is clearly not the most desirable solution, but an inevitable one if cases continue long enough without proper care. Researchers have been trying since at least 100 years ago to find a 100% effective, ideal cure for CTS, but they have not yet been successful.
In extreme cases, the afflicted troll may begin using "I did it for the lulz" in order to attempt to justify inconsiderate IRL actions. If such symptom arises, it is suggested that an intervention be staged as soon as possible.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:50 amI don't need to read your medical history. You actually did all that. WOW, you are what your mother called you.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:55 amI quess your symptom would be abreviated as A-S-S-H-O-L-E
March 17th, 2007 at 5:00 amFrom Encyclopedia MEATGAZEROUS which says you have some serious homophobic issues. And have absolutely no idea WTF you are talking about.
Was part of your rehabilitation going onto web sites cutting and pasting, pretending like you have a brain.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:04 amAss always trhe Racist Left is go after a Hispanic. I hope Bush holds his ground.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:05 amThe left hates a Spanish person who isn't farm worker.
Racist Leftist Elitist scumbag!
RODAN, no offense But this whole administration needs to be IMPEACHED. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country in my lifetime and that includes NIXON.
I apologize to all... My behavior thru the night an mornning hours, especially Troll alert,Dlt, JPV, Zooey, Barfly. I've never been this aggravated, dissapointed, and ashamed of my country.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:45 amMy behavior was inappropriate.
pleases except this apology.
Yeah right.
F*CK OFF!
March 17th, 2007 at 5:47 amwho is using my name on the 5:29 am thread
March 17th, 2007 at 5:48 amWhat are you talkin about?
March 17th, 2007 at 5:49 amYou dont; really expect us to accept you apolgy. Do you?
Elitist scumbag!
March 17th, 2007 at 5:53 amI wasn't apologizing to you. Spic lover.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:54 amyour good! I'm impressed.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:02 amAMERICAN PRESIDENT IS COMPLICIT IN CHILD ABUSE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER
According to one portion of the transcript made public earlier this week, however, Mohammed told the panel of three unnamed military officers that his children had been held for four months and abused during his incarceration.
DISGUSTING
March 17th, 2007 at 6:56 amGeorge W. Bush makes Richard Nixon look like Danny Bonaduce.
I don't know what it means, but George W. Bush is a pud and his Austin Gang is 10 times as corrupt as Tricky Dick's goon squad.
-GSD
March 17th, 2007 at 7:57 amJPV:
Yes, and a Republican Democracy.
Arne:
I'll take whatever concession I can get. Cheers!
WC:
Yes.
Tobey Tall:
How old are his children?
GSD:
Let me guess, you think George W. Bush personally planted explosive demolitions at the WTC too?
March 17th, 2007 at 8:34 amBush "pugnacious" and "loyal" yes, "conservative" and "honest" not so much. "Conservative" Republicans should ready themselves for oversight and hearings that promise to be even less flattring for the neocons you have selected as your leaders, they have only just begun--hearings and accountability losers like Hastert and Frist did not have the balls to implement themselves.
March 17th, 2007 at 8:41 amSince Bush baby is out of the nation, at present, the Congress should not let him back into America. Just tell him he has been deposed by Congress.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:08 amF you jake. I know you are just doing your job— but really, F you. You bring nothing to this blog except heartburn. Being a professional agitator must pay well.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:10 amAlso, I love the CNN "scare" headline:
Why not just go all the way with "CAN BUSH SURVIVE?"?
March 17th, 2007 at 9:11 amJay Randal:
You and what army? Get it? ARMY (the organization that Bush is Commander-in-Chief of).
seth:
I don't get paid at all to be a professional agitator -- note how I will never curse either.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:13 amGonzales won't survive because everyone except Bush's 29% and Jake have lost trust in his ability to uphold the laws as he promised as his sworn Constitutional duty. He's a liar, an advocate of torture, and now the center of another White House scandal that paints this Administration as only interested in political posturing and cronyism over the rule of law. Gonzales likely doesn't understand much, but he knows that once he has lost the confidence of the Congress and American people that he can be the people's lawyer--all the Bush loyalty in the world can't save his sorry ass.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:18 amP.S. Jay -- I hate to break the news, but Bush snuck back in while you weren't looking and celebrated St. Patrick's Day with Prime Minister Ahern at the White House -- why do you think he didn't want to build that fence along the border?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070316-2.html
P.P.S. It is the PRESIDENT, in fact, who has the Constitutional power to adjourn Congress -- in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper (see Art. II, Sec. 3).
http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/constitution.html
March 17th, 2007 at 9:20 amyou don't curse because it is more effective when you seem calm. It is very calculated. Why don't you just blog on Malkin's site or some where else where you would enjoy having a back and forth that is enjoyable to both parties.
you are obviously paid also because you are so in the minority of thought and sound semi-intelligent, that you must be a mole sent to plant doubt.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:23 amAboveTheClouds:
So, are you advocation impeachment, or assassination, of the Attorney General? I thought the NEW standard was that Attorneys investigating your own political can no longer be fired (upon)?
March 17th, 2007 at 9:23 amJake, I pointed the adjournment issue out after the November elections when I wondered if the Republican minority in the Senate might manufacture "disagreement" regarding adjournment, thus allowing Bush to Adjourn Congress, for the duration of His reign.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:26 amseth:
Because I "enjoy" the back and forth here. I am not sure now I can rebut your cliam that I am "obviously paid" but then again, you probably think that Transvestite in Pink behind Valerie Plame yesterday was Karl Rove in drag too.
AboveTheClouds:
"advocation" = advocating
(Dang spell-checker ; )
March 17th, 2007 at 9:29 amSo, are you advocation impeachment, or assassination, of the Attorney General? I thought the NEW standard was that Attorneys investigating your own political can no longer be fired (upon)?
Comment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 9:23 am
Jake, be careful about such language. It's a safe bet this board is monitored closely by NSA and Homeland Security. You are the one who brought up assassination, not Above the Clouds. Don't be surprised if you get a surprise visit in the middle of the night by government officials.
If you survive, you can come back here and tell us what it feels like to be whisked away to a black site and waterboarded.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:31 amGood eye, then, Briseadh na Faire. You do realize, barring some unforeseen catastrophe, Bush is leaving office on January 20, 2008, right?
March 17th, 2007 at 9:32 amThis just in:
Chlorine gas injures 356 in Iraq bombing
March 17th, 2007 at 9:33 amI was simply asking "Above the Clouds" for clarification of his / her statement. BTW: I suspect anyone at DHS reading my posts will know who to waterboard ; )
March 17th, 2007 at 9:35 amAdvocating impeachment and/or assassination are your words, not mine. Just think, if Senator Pete Domenici (R-NM) and Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) decide not to meddle in "ongoing investigations" this story would likely have been pushed aside by other GOP scandals like the failed Iraq policy or the Walter Reed disgrace. You are using your own "Toensing" style of argument that narrows the "debate" to such a small and specific point that only your interpretation "NEW standard was that Attorneys investigating your own political can no longer be fired" is correct.
Jake, why don't you go to right-leaning blogs where your opinions and views will be validated by others who think like you. People who frequent blogs like TP tend to disagree with the way the neocons have destroyed America. Though I don't speak for you, I would think that you would be at least slightly dismayed that the neocon wing of the White House, who are neither conservative nor Republican, have destroyed any change any Republican has for election in 2008.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:35 amNow, does that qualify as WMD people? Sounds like a chemical attack to me.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:37 amBush does not have the power, nor authority to adjourn the Congress, but they can impeach him fast if neccessary. Articles of impeachment can be drawn up immediately and both houses of Congress can vote on the same day to remove him. GOPers in DC would be wise to do this with the Democrats, because Bush has gone crazy and is a danger to America.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:37 amJake > Bush's term ends on January 20, 2009, not 2008.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:40 amO.K. AboveTheClouds:
If Gonzales won’t resign and Bush won't fire him, what did you mean by "Gonzales won't survive"?
March 17th, 2007 at 9:40 amJay Randal:
May I suggest you speak with Briseadh na Faire — if you won't believe me -- he / she seems to disagree with your assessment as to adjourning Congress as well.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:42 amThat's what you think, Jay ; )
March 17th, 2007 at 9:43 amBush has always cared more for his buddies in crime than the people of the United States. In fact, I suspect he's the one who told Gonzales to get rid of federal prosecutors that didn't pursue Dems exclusively. I am not at all surprised at his refusal to dismiss Gonzo. I hope and pray that this will continue to open can after can of worms until it is BUSH himself who will be dismissed. It's high time the world was rid of this menace sitting in a seat of extreme power. It's high time this country dumped his royal ass.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:44 amIt's beginning to sound like Bush is at the base of this case of obstruction of justice, doesn't it? Clearly, just like the other scandals, the buck seems to stop at the "fallguy" or "underling" instead of the way it's always been in this country with the "buck stopping at the top".
We have so much "finger pointing" to subordinates that people's minds are finally realizing that the real finger is beginning to point to Dubya in all of these scaldalous, criminal activities.
When will the people awaken from the delusion of believing that the highest office in this country is occupied by someone who genuinely cares about our citizens? When will the people realize that the propaganda we've been fed all these years about the people coming first in this country is simply just that: empty propaganda.
When will the people begin pointing the finger where it truly belongs - at the Office of the President?
When will the people realize that, just as in the case of Watergate, it's time for this guy to go? Actually, it's well "beyond time".....he's functioning on "overtime" these days.
But, if the public needs to have a veritable avalanche of high crimes and misdemeanors, then let it pile up.....nasty scandal after nasty scandal.....corruption outed each day....the proof of the level of intentional "wrongdoing" and criminal behavior is HUGE at this point.
It should have been a foregone conclusion that, having been caught in Lie #1 (the pretext for the war in Iraq based on total lies), this president would have been gone!
Impeachment is THE ONLY REMEDY NOW!
March 17th, 2007 at 9:44 amI shall return, after breakfast. Play nice until then.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:45 am#261 The "articles of impeachment" have already been drafted and number in the vicinity of "12" at this point. I've got the url from John Conyer's investigation into it and I believe that they are now moving forward quickly to bring it to fruition.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:47 amA criminal president does not have the authority to adjourn the Congress, but Bush dunce can attempt it. Members of Congress can then refuse to abide and vote for Bush's removal.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:48 amTMI! Who gives a flying crap what the resident troll does? Good riddance to bad rubbish I say. Now the intelligent people can begin some credible dialogue.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:49 amveritas > Congress needs to act fast on impeachment, because Bush might try to declare martial law and adjourn the Congress afterwards.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:52 amGeorge W, Bush is PUDnacious. A total pud.
-GSD
March 17th, 2007 at 9:52 amI would never suggest that he be killed--as you tend to want to lead the discussion. Gonzales will either resign or Bush will "fire him" that much is clear, evidence of his inability to advocate for all people of the US piles on every day. As I said, Gonzales has lost the trust of Congress and the American people that he can faithfully and equally provide justice. He has proven that he is just a political hack on the same level as Karl Rove.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:53 amComment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 9:32 am
Jake, if you've been following these boards, you would know that I have already forseen just such a catastrophe, for I have seen the entire eastern seaboard of the United States in flames. If such a vision comes to fruition, millions will have died.
March 17th, 2007 at 9:55 amAs long as Congress remains impotent, there is no need to adjourn it. With the removal of language barring Bush from attacking Iran, Congress is giving the green light for just such an attack.
And the Democrats can hold all the hearings they want. What becomes of it? Kyle Sampson merely got shuffled to a new title for the Attorney General scandal. A general gets tossed for the Walter Reed scandal.
Meanwhile, Congress, with Democrats in the majority, goes about the business of authorizing all the money Bush is asking for, and more, to continue the war, including the "surge."
We changed the color of the shirts, but it's still the same "good ol' boys club."
March 17th, 2007 at 10:02 amCongress would be wise to confront the Bush Regime directly immediately, because 2/3 of Americans would back the Congress against Bush. Plus the military is unhappy with Bush, so it's time to bring this to a climax.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:04 amRecall that Gonzales is our Attorney General because as Bush's Counsel as Texas Governor, he had the uncanny ability to turn lengthy, complex death sentence cases into simple, bullet-points on one page for Bush to understand and both of them to read and giggle about. After they executed a record number of people, these two have brought their act national and we are all worse off for it.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:10 amThis development points out a simple fact:
The 2008 presidential election will be about which by candidate can demonstrate that they are in touch. That is the quality that Bush lacks most.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:13 amHey Jake! You've got a post from me to answer under the Cummins thread.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:14 amOne would have to draw the conclusion that the first impeachable offense would be intentional presentation of bogus or false rationale to condone the occupation of a sovereign country. In reflection back to the moment when this country would realize the sad fact that we'd all been lied to, covert agents outed to squelch the "agenda" of the powers that be, and probably much, much more, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, the offense was impeachable. Had the "do nothing Republican Congress" who are now considered to be "complicit" in this nightmare acted accordingly and held Bush to the ethical/moral/legal standard as they've held past presidents who were impeached for one lie, just imagine THE NUMBER OF OUR YOUNGEST AND FINEST PATRIOTS ALONG WITH THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRAQIS who would still be alive and walking the face of the earth?
Is it not safe to attribute these unnecessary deaths both to the commander in chief as well as his republican congress? And, since the american people KNEW that the pretext for this was was pure "fiction" (a mere pretense), it should have been our collective responsibility to remove both Bush and Cheney from office immediately.
Not having done that, we can readily see the "fallout" of the negligence of our choice to not hold them responsible for the continuation of a war based on bogus information and, as we're learing now, outright lies.
Had we functioned as true patriots, we would have not tolerated things beyond the first lie. And now, as the death toll mounts, the economic destruction to our national debt accumulates, and the scandals proliferate daily, do must pause for introspection and say to ourselves, at this point in time: If we do nothing about this obvious corruption in the highest offices in this country, are we, ourselves, now being complicit in these crimes?
Everyone must search their individual souls. It's quite clear that, had we done our patriotic duty some years back, we would not be in this morass of evil right now.
Had we done out patriotic duty back then (even with a complicitous Congress at that time), how many of our youngest and finest would still be alive to enjoy their families? How many innocent Iraqi women & children caught in the crossfire would be alive? Americans nationwide are now holding both this administration and the previous congress accountable and responsible for all of these unnecessary deaths.
At the point at which it became clear that this war was based solely on lies and misinformation, our troops should have been/could have been removed.....and the people responsible (administration & Congress) immediately ejected from office. We missed that opportunity to begin the healing process of this country and now we are all paying a very high price for the gross negligence of having done so.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:17 amI agree, Congress would be wise to do that. But how many politicians are in the pockets of the War Profiteers and Corporate America?
More and more I get the feeling that Congress is putting on a show to placate the American People while the hidden agenda of American Imperialism continues to move forward.
If you look at it from the point of "we the people" are here merely to serve the ruling elite, and are allowed to live only so long as we continue to do so, what is going on makes a lot of sense. The government need only to keep the populace from violent revolt. And, should it turn violent, the government already has plasma, sonic, and microwave weapons at the ready.
Should those fail, the government can turn to a mercenary army to quell the populace, as it did with Blackwater in New Orleans.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:18 amGonzo has been complicit with Dubya for decades. No doubt he's gotten Dubya's butt off the burner many times so it's very plausible that he might have enough on Bush that could be used against him making it impossible for Bush to fire him at this point. Very probable.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:19 am#272 What's also becoming crystalized in the minds of the people is that he will do whatever it takes to get his way, despite the wishes of the people, his own staff, and Congress. This is a classic example and will go down in history as the quintessential "abuse of power"....and we attributed that dubious accolade to Richard Nixon - hah! He makes Nixon look like a juvenile!
This latest "standoff" regarding the dismissal of Gonzales, albeit misplaced to some degree because the fickle finger of fate is pointing rapidly in all areas to Bush himself, will bring down the presidency. It will allow the Republicans to separate themselves from the disaster of this administration; it will allow the american people to function in a quasi-deluded fashion (this association being far less indicting as some others that will certainly be proven in the future), and a reason to take off the congressional gloves and call for his removal.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:22 amRep. Pelosi and Sen. Harry Reid should contact the GOP leaders in the Congress to remove Bush, Cheney, and the entire regime cabinet. A caretaker government would then be installed for the rest of Bush's presidential term in office. The caretaker president would NOT be allowed to run for office in 2008 election, so this would pacify both political parties to have a wide-open election in November 2008. Bush and his entire family could be sent into permanent exile to Paraguay and Cheney deported to the UAE or Saudi Arabia. This would give US a fresh start.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:24 am#282 Was it Gore or Edwards who made "campaign finance reform" their top priority? Had we done that back then, these corporations would not have succeeded in making this a fascist nation, along with assistance from the administration, of course.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:24 amCongress would be wise to confront the Bush Regime directly immediately, because 2/3 of Americans would back the Congress against Bush. Plus the military is unhappy with Bush, so it’s time to bring this to a climax.
Comment by Jay Randal
I said something like this in another thread. I think Bush/Cheney are as vulnerable as they're ever going to get - the iron's hot. Strike. People will support it.
I'll say it again: if Bubba can get impeached for weaseling out of a perjury charge in the matter of a BLOWJOB, for heaven's sake, why is impeachment out of the question now?
Is it because Democrats think this to be impolitic?
Are we back to business as usual?
If Dems really want to stop the occupation of Iraq, why don't they try again to repeal the 2002 resolution?
Argh, mutter, mumble...
March 17th, 2007 at 10:25 amWe all know that Gonzo is being made the scapegoat - By Congress, by the GOP, and by the administration itself. Fortunately, the "fall guys" are dropping like flies, leaving the ones really accountable and responsible bare and obvious to the american people.
I am reminded of the conclusion of the "Wizare of Oz" at this point - where everyone gets to see the inner workings of "the little man behind the curtain at Oz"..... It's becoming the metaphor for this presidency - and quickly.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:26 am#287 clinton lied/monica sighed - bush lied/thousands died
I believe we have prima facie evidence for rapid impeachment in this fact alone, without the other 11 articles which have been accumulated.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:28 amLIBERAL BIAS! Gonzo has more support than just Bush! Barney the dog supports Gonzales as well!
March 17th, 2007 at 10:29 amAnd at this point in time, THE PEOPLE would definitely support impeachment proceedings. Everyone's head is spinning at the daily level of scandalous corruption within the GOP and this administration and we've just scratched the tip of one huge iceberg. If we were to unearth ALL of the high crimes & misdemeanors, it might take three decades (and probably will!).
March 17th, 2007 at 10:30 amJ-rock > no need for formal impeachment, if Dem and GOP leaders go to Bush to demand that he resigns. This was how Pres. Nixon was taken down by forcing him to resign and agreeing not to prosecute him when he resigned. Congressional leaders have to do this now.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:32 amThe new mantra of the american people: FIRST LIE = shame on you .............SECOND LIE = SHAME ON ME!
How many lies have we now tolerated and permitted? The number is mind-boggling.....especially when we call ourselves a government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE.
We, the people, have been complicit and derelect in our duties if We, The People, truly run this democracy.
We, the people, who stand back and accept lies from our highest officials, aid and abet this criminal behavior.
We, the people, will no longer be relevant in this country if we fail to take back our constitution and our rule of law.
We, the people, must act today and press for the immediate impeachment of those who have lied to us, misrepresented material facts to us, and continue to deceive us.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:34 amJay, I believe that's what we're witnessing right now. The longer Dubya insists on keeping Gonzales, more Republicans will find this behavior dispicable and join the ranks of the dems calling for removal of both gonzales and bush.
Besides, the longer this "dog & pony show" of Bush's continue, the greater the probability that absolutely NO REPUBLICAN will be voted into office in 08 (or perhaps never again). This should send serious chills up the spines of those investing time and energy into political office.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:36 amAboveTheClouds:
I certainly hope they do not give into the pressure and he neither resign or is fired.
Briseadh na Faire:
As I said, good eye, then. Don't worry, though, the only way millions of Americans are going to die anytime soon is if Democrats let the terrorists win.
WC:
I answered that already. You really should check with veritas to get your stories straight -- you guys either want me to post or you don't?
March 17th, 2007 at 10:37 am(sorry about the bold face type....don't usually do that....too hard on eyes...mea culpa!)....
March 17th, 2007 at 10:37 amLOL Jay Randal -- no, I have a feeling you're going to need a formal impeachment AND conviction this time around -- that means 67 Senators! No freebie like last time with Nixon.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:38 amBush Junior would basically be told that if he resigned, then no prosecution of his crimes would take place, and for the good of the nation he would be exiled to Paraguay. Bush Senior and the rest of the Bush clan would be deported to Paraguay for their own protection. Cheney would be given the same deal and flown into exile somewhere. Condi Rice and the other cabinet members would be given immunity from prosecution, if they agreed to leave the US. It's time for the Bush Regime to be ended!
March 17th, 2007 at 10:41 amJ-rock > no need for formal impeachment, if Dem and GOP leaders go to Bush to demand that he resigns. This was how Pres. Nixon was taken down by forcing him to resign and agreeing not to prosecute him when he resigned. Congressional leaders have to do this now.
Comment by Jay Randal — March 17, 2007 @ 10:32 am
Unfortunately, I don't think Bush would go for it. Heck, even if he were impeached and the Senate voted to remove him from office, I don't think he'd go quietly. It would be a showdown for the ages...that's for sure.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:44 amJake LOL sorry, but Washington politicians believe in making deals for removal of dummies like Bush.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:44 amActually Jake, I don't think it's a matter of whether we want you to post here or not...
March 17th, 2007 at 10:44 amYou have a job to do, and a paycheck to collect, and free speech still exists in this country, even paid to speak speech...
Why couldn't he just remain in office and pardon himself if need be?
March 17th, 2007 at 10:44 amComment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 10:37 am
But do you even know whom the "terrorists" are? By your use of a "talking point" I doubt it. You've demonstrated yourself to be a pawn of the true terrorists, and you don't even realize that you've been duped.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:45 amI answered that already. You really should check with veritas to get your stories straight — you guys either want me to post or you don’t?
Comment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 10:37 am
And just where did I tell you not to post?
March 17th, 2007 at 10:46 amWC:
You don't have to convince me -- Jay Randal seems to be the one in Fantasyland about Bush going gentle into that good night.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:47 amThat's right, Briseadh na Faire, I do not think Bush is a terrorist -- quick, did any Jews die in the WTC attacks?
March 17th, 2007 at 10:48 amOne other problem, Jay. If we gave everyone in the Administration immunity, that still won't prevent the international community from charging them with International War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. Think back at what happened in Germany to Rumsfeld as soon as he resigned.
As a bit of a reality check, the security costs for Bush after (if and when?) He leaves office are going to be astronomical. We'll probably have to pay for a brigade to patrol His Paraguay ranch.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:49 amRaven:
I'm not paid to speak here -- are you?
March 17th, 2007 at 10:49 amWC:
It was not you, but veritas, who doesn't want me to post -- that's why I said you had to get your stories straight — and let me know how it goes with Randal too ; )
March 17th, 2007 at 10:52 amDon’t worry, though, the only way millions of Americans are going to die anytime soon is if Democrats let the terrorists win.
I remember Bush claiming that the terrorists hated us because of our freedoms.
Then there was the Patriot Act.
Then there were secret torture camps and miltary tribunals usurping the function of courts of law.
Then there were illegal wiretaps by the NSA.
Then...
Maybe the terrorists already won.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:56 amLOL Jake I never said Bush Junior would be happy to leave office. Nixon told Kissinger he wanted to kill everybody, but Dicky soon realized that jail awaited him if he refused to resign. Bush baby will throw a tantrum, but then his daddy will say the gig is up and time to escape to Paraguay.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:58 amHasta la vista, Senor Schmuck!
March 17th, 2007 at 11:00 amFaire > that is why the Bush family would flee to Paraguay. That nation does not extradite anyone to the Hague court. They would be safe there. Cheney would need a similar nation to shield him. But yes if they ever strayed to another location, then they could get sent to be tried for war crimes at the Hague.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:02 amJake,
You are the one who seems to suggest I told you not to post.
As for your "answer" on the Cummins thread...HA HA HA!
More like an avoidance than an answer.
I asked 6 questions. You "answered" one. And it wasn't much of an answer. Funny that during their entire career as a US attorney under the Bush regime, performance was never a problem until recent elections or until Jack A. got caught.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:02 amIt was not you, but veritas, who doesn’t want me to post — that’s why I said you had to get your stories straight — and let me know how it goes with Randal too ; )
Comment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 10:52 am
Whatever.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:06 amComment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 10:48 am
The question about Jews is irrelevant.
You need to re-think your appraisal of Bush. There is such a thing as State-Sponsored Terrorism. Bush is the Head of State of a Country that has killed and maimed innocent people.
He initiated two baseless Wars of Aggression.
Afghanistan was baseless, because the Taliban offered to extridite Bin Laden if given proof of his culpability for 9/11. Rather than sending proof, Bush sent bombs.
Iraq was baseless because "the facts were fixed around the policy" of going to war and a war of aggression for the purpose of regime change violates international law.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:12 amJAKE...You must have gone to the same law school that Gonzo attended (was it in Mexico?) since you utterly misread the provisions of Article II section 3 regarding the convening or adjourning Congress. I believe that this section was put in back in 1787 or so when the Congress did not meet on an almost permanent basis as it does now. In case of an extraordinary need, the President can call the Congress into session (if the Congress does not call itself into session, which can be done in a flash in this day and age). The President has absolutely no power to adjourn the Congress under any other circumstance. While you are reading Article I Section 3, please let your eyes wonder down to the next
Article, which you may soon have reason to ponder in depth.
ANd while at it, please read Article I of the Constitution, which creates a Congress (although you seem to not believe it has any validity these days, along with the rest of the Bushit cultist authoritarian neocons).
While I am not a lawyer, a common sense reading of the clear language in the document should be sufficient for most people who do not have delusional blinders on.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:13 amFaire > Bush baby can hire Blackwater mercenary goons to patrol his Paraguay ranch. US government should refuse to pay for any protective services, other than the normal Secret Service detail every former president receives.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:15 amSo, is Bush REFUSING to fire an Attorney now an impeachable offense too? Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
Comment by Jake, 2.
Ah sophistry. Isn't it lovely.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:18 amAfter reading the thread, it appears "Wethepeople" was on some sort of stimulant, meth. Could just be manic.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:21 amWhile I am not a lawyer, a common sense reading of the clear language in the document should be sufficient for most people who do not have delusional blinders on.
Comment by feedmaggotstoJAKEthe TROLL — March 17, 2007 @ 11:13 am
It doesn't take a lawyer to know that Bush and the Republican Party can and will pervert any language to suit their ends.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:27 amAfter reading the thread, it appears “Wethepeople†was on some sort of stimulant, meth. Could just be manic.
Comment by ForTruth
wethepeople is just a whiny-assed tiny limp dick, who somehow believes I'm just supposed to take it meekly when he insults me, other commenters, and even people off board, and then gets upset when I have the nerve to tell him to piss off. He's insignificant.
That ain't rachel.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:45 am[...] Bush ‘Pugnacious,’ ‘In Deep Denial,’ As White House Allies Press … [...]
March 17th, 2007 at 12:45 pmSuzannne Malveaux? You mean the "woman" who said she hoped Clarence Thomas' wife fed him so much fatty, high cholesterol food that he keeled over from a heart attack?? I would hold her observations in such high regard.....
March 17th, 2007 at 1:15 pmSuzannne Malveaux? You mean the “woman†who said she hoped Clarence Thomas’ wife fed him so much fatty, high cholesterol food that he keeled over from a heart attack?? I would hold her observations in such high regard…..
Comment by valiant venus
I suspect you hold no one's observations in high regard -- other than your own. Sad, really....
Poor thing.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:36 pm323 Susanne Malveaux's diet is to be highly recommended...it worked on my nasty motherinlaw and I suggest that Mrs. Thomas share some of her greasy recipes with Chaney's cook. And maybe add some of those deliscious secret ingredient from the Lucrecia Borgia cookbook.
March 17th, 2007 at 1:36 pmwoof! pant, pant. lick, lick. wag, wag. woof!
March 17th, 2007 at 3:31 pm#
Why couldn’t he just remain in office and pardon himself if need be?
Comment by Jake — March 17, 2007 @ 10:44 am
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This is why...it's called the U.S. Constitution. Article 2, Section 2. Perhaps if you would familiarize yourself with it, you wouldn't be defending this administration.
"...he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
March 17th, 2007 at 4:20 pmThe only way Shrub can protect Abu G is by stonewalling the congressional requests for documents and testimony -- evidence which almost certainly would reveal Gonzales's direct involvement int the purge.
But stonewalling completely legitimate subpoenas on the grounds of executive privilege would make Shrub look even MORE like Nixon, and would quickly escalate into the kind of showboating confrontation that the media could gin up into a "constitutional crisis." or at least a cage match between a Democratic Congress and a weakened, embattled president.
Shrub needs this like he needs another big, gaping hole inside his skull. Sooner or later -- and probably sooner -- Rove will manuever him into accepting that Abu G is toast.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:22 pm#
Bush Junior would basically be told that if he resigned, then no prosecution of his crimes would take place, and for the good of the nation he would be exiled to Paraguay. Bush Senior and the rest of the Bush clan would be deported to Paraguay for their own protection. Cheney would be given the same deal and flown into exile somewhere. Condi Rice and the other cabinet members would be given immunity from prosecution, if they agreed to leave the US. It’s time for the Bush Regime to be ended!
Comment by Jay Randal — March 17, 2007 @ 10:41 am
Jay, I usually agree with most of what you write, but on this one, I have to strongly disagree. I do not believe these people should be allowed to escape either impeachment or criminal prosecution. They are war criminals who have caused the death and disablement of thousands of both Americans and Iraqis. Unless, and until, a President and Vice President is impeached, convicted and then tried for such egregious decisions and behavior, it will only encourage future adminstrations to do the same thing. Which is exactly what happened with the "deal" made with Nixon.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:26 pmWhile I am not a lawyer, a common sense reading of the clear language in the document should be sufficient for most people who do not have delusional blinders on.
Comment by feedmaggotstoJAKEthe TROLL — March 17, 2007 @ 11:13 am
It doesn’t take a lawyer to know that Bush and the Republican Party can and will pervert any language to suit their ends.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — March 17, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Referring to a President's Constitutional authority to adjourn Congress. Bris is completely correct here. This adminstration and their allies DO NOT Support, Defend and Protect the Constitution. They WILL interpret it, as they have, to defend a dictatorship...but they call it the "Unitary Executive."
March 17th, 2007 at 4:36 pmimpeachcheneythenbush > I wish Bush could be de-facto impeached, but cutting a deal to get rid of him is better than him remaining in office for 2 more years. Nixon should have been convicted and given a jail term.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:49 pmGoogle the phrase "pathetic pipsqueak" just for fun, and guess who pops up?
March 17th, 2007 at 5:00 pm331.
impeachcheneythenbush > I wish Bush could be de-facto impeached, but cutting a deal to get rid of him is better than him remaining in office for 2 more years. Nixon should have been convicted and given a jail term.
Comment by Jay Randal — March 17, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
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Jay, Bush isn't in this alone, (nor is Cheney) and getting these individuals out of power isn't quite enough. Anymore than getting Nixon and some of his cronies out of power was ever enough. Cheney may be considered the "man behind the curtain," but there is another power, a group of people, a mind-set..that stands behind people like Cheney. Because, ultimately, Bush and Cheney (like Nixon before them) are expendable, politically. And, if not prosecuted, they will come back as "senior" statesmen or spokesmen, or influential in government and/or business in another way. In the meantime, they are easily enough substituted for with other "fronts." Unless we can truly reclaim our democracy, this will be endlessly repeated by future administrations. And the only way to begin to redeem the form of government we believe in as Americans is to convict and punish those who betray our Constitutional values and laws for what they are...traitors.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:21 pmJay, do you realize that many of the people working behind the scenes in the Bush Administration were pardoned by Ford? That's why they're still allowed to hold government offices.
Any sort of pardon would be harmful in the long run. That is, if we survive in the long run.
Impeachment may be off the table, but Armageddon isn't.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:35 pmThe DOJ can fire any U.S. Attorneys it wants to, for whatever reason, even for not cracking down hard enough on corruption with Democrats.
absurd thought -
March 18th, 2007 at 2:29 amGod of the Universe says
Democrat corruption OK
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The DOJ can fire any U.S. Attorneys it wants to, for whatever reason, even for not cracking down hard enough on corruption with Democrats.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
Democrat corruption OK
. Comment by USpace — March 18, 2007 @ 2:29 am
Unless that firing is an act of obstruction of justice, in which case a crime is committed. So while you're justifying firing *republican-appointed-attorneys* because they investigate your Republican Corruption - all you can do is whine that your *GOP-hacks* aren't going after democratic corruption?
Not only is that a ridiculous and unfounded claim, it's a complete rejection of *reality*. You CONS are so CONNED into being fools, you're the laughing stock of the ENTIRE WORLD!! BAHAHAHA USpace, you're a complete IDIOT!
March 18th, 2007 at 3:58 amquick, did any Jews die in the WTC attacks?
Comment by Jake —
You could look up the names of all those who died in the 9/11 attacks. But since you are too lazy to do so (though you seem to have lots of time to post what is mostly drivel), yes, Jews died in the WTC, as well as on the hijacked planes, and the Pentagon. Some Muslims (other than the terrorists) also died in the 9/11 attacks; one of them, in fact, was a friend of a friend who was about eight months pregnant at the time. What are trying to prove with such an idiotic question?
March 18th, 2007 at 8:50 amThe DOJ can fire any U.S. Attorneys it wants to, for whatever reason, even for not cracking down hard enough on corruption with Democrats.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
Democrat corruption OK
Comment by USpace — March 18, 2007 @ 2:29 am
Since you are so smart, maybe you can tell us why the provision in the Patriot Act exists that allows the administration to bypass the Senate for approval of new US A's. What does this have to do with national security? Your girlfriend Jake chose to ignore that question when I asked him earlier; are you going to, too?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:15 amLet's see, Gonzo has tortured, illegally spied, told the President he can ignore law (signing statements), scoffed at international law and human rights . . . and he's getting heat for firing prosecutors and trying to consolidate Republican rule! (Obviously at Rove's command). I guess the Democrats do still have an instinct for self-preservation: "torture and spy away, just don't do it with one-party rule! (i.e. without us!!)"
March 19th, 2007 at 11:29 pm