Comments on: Swift Boat funders for Romney. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:04:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: pigpen http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2304669 pigpen Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:35:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2304669 Romney has got what the Dems don't have... ...actual executive leadership experience of signficance. Add to that someone who communicates well with the media and has no skeletons in the closet (unless you believe that the acts of his ancestors 200 years ago can be attributed to him-which I find ridiculous). Romney did not inherit his success like many other wealthy people. He made his hundreds of millions as CEO of Bain Capital, a multi billion dollar company. Then he rescued the 2002 Olympics which were mired in debt and scandal. As an encore, he was elected as Gov. in Mass, balanced the budget there, and turned a billion dollar deficit into a billion dollar surplus, all in four years. Obama is bright and charismatic, but has no experience leading any organization of any size, let a lone country of 300 million people. Clinton is famous and liberal, if that is what you look for in a candidate, but she is void of any leadership experience as well (unless you claim that she was running the show in the white house instead of Bill Clinton). Romney has no drugs (Obama), sex scandals (Gingrich, Giuliani, McCain), or dubious transactions (Obama) in his past, so people are stretching to find dirt on him. The acts of his ancestors from the 1800s is a real stretch. As to the flip flopping, every candidate has changed their position on one or more of the issues (McCain was against Bush's tax cuts and is not in favor, Clinton voted for the Iraq war and now is against, etc.). Yet the focus is mainly on Romney, only. Fact is, Romney was on the wrong side of the issues, and is now on the right side of the issues, if you are a Republican. If you listen to the guy speak, he is bright, articulate, and sincere in the reasons for this conversion. He admits that he was on the wrong side of the issues . That is good enough for me. The fact that everyone focuses on Romney as the only candidate who has flip flopped tells me that this is about all that they can muster up to make his look like a bad guy... Romney has the money, the backing in terms of endorsements, the management experience, and the motiviation to get it done in 2008. He flat out loves this country, and will not stop until we are back on top where we should be. Romney has got what the Dems don’t have…

…actual executive leadership experience of signficance. Add to that someone who communicates well with the media and has no skeletons in the closet (unless you believe that the acts of his ancestors 200 years ago can be attributed to him-which I find ridiculous). Romney did not inherit his success like many other wealthy people. He made his hundreds of millions as CEO of Bain Capital, a multi billion dollar company. Then he rescued the 2002 Olympics which were mired in debt and scandal. As an encore, he was elected as Gov. in Mass, balanced the budget there, and turned a billion dollar deficit into a billion dollar surplus, all in four years.

Obama is bright and charismatic, but has no experience leading any organization of any size, let a lone country of 300 million people. Clinton is famous and liberal, if that is what you look for in a candidate, but she is void of any leadership experience as well (unless you claim that she was running the show in the white house instead of Bill Clinton).

Romney has no drugs (Obama), sex scandals (Gingrich, Giuliani, McCain), or dubious transactions (Obama) in his past, so people are stretching to find dirt on him. The acts of his ancestors from the 1800s is a real stretch.

As to the flip flopping, every candidate has changed their position on one or more of the issues (McCain was against Bush’s tax cuts and is not in favor, Clinton voted for the Iraq war and now is against, etc.). Yet the focus is mainly on Romney, only. Fact is, Romney was on the wrong side of the issues, and is now on the right side of the issues, if you are a Republican. If you listen to the guy speak, he is bright, articulate, and sincere in the reasons for this conversion. He admits that he was on the wrong side of the issues . That is good enough for me. The fact that everyone focuses on Romney as the only candidate who has flip flopped tells me that this is about all that they can muster up to make his look like a bad guy…

Romney has the money, the backing in terms of endorsements, the management experience, and the motiviation to get it done in 2008. He flat out loves this country, and will not stop until we are back on top where we should be.

]]> By: vb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2267501 vb Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:04:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2267501 It really won't matter what I say. My comments will be misconstrued. But just to start, I would figure that no one commenting here knows what Bob Perry went through in is decision to commit to Romney and judging him without that background seems a little harsh. As far as Romney's "flip-flops", hasn't anyone here (that has issues over Romney's change of view) ever over time educated themselves to the point of changing a view? Especially critical life changing ideas. Cudos to you if you have and I am not going to hold it against you just because you did. Judging Romney's changes to be only for political gain is just that, judging. If anyone wants to know about Romney's personally history so they really know what they are talking about, all they need to do is wickapedia his name or look at the campaine website. He wasn't in the military. As far as the polygamy thing, should Romney be held accountable for what his ansestors did? He has said he doesn't support polygamy. Do any of you (who have a problem with the mormon religion) know what all your ansestors were involved with? I bet many would be surprized to find skeletons in your family tree. Should Obama be held accountable for his father's actions? (His father married three separate women and never divorced any of them as well as fathered children in and out of marriage.) I don't think so. FYI: The mormon's ended the practice of polygamy in 1890, that is 5 generations ago and excommunicates anyone who tries to do it. Anyway, just hoping to enlighten and help the process of educating along. It really won’t matter what I say. My comments will be misconstrued. But just to start, I would figure that no one commenting here knows what Bob Perry went through in is decision to commit to Romney and judging him without that background seems a little harsh.
As far as Romney’s “flip-flops”, hasn’t anyone here (that has issues over Romney’s change of view) ever over time educated themselves to the point of changing a view? Especially critical life changing ideas. Cudos to you if you have and I am not going to hold it against you just because you did. Judging Romney’s changes to be only for political gain is just that, judging.
If anyone wants to know about Romney’s personally history so they really know what they are talking about, all they need to do is wickapedia his name or look at the campaine website.
He wasn’t in the military.
As far as the polygamy thing, should Romney be held accountable for what his ansestors did? He has said he doesn’t support polygamy. Do any of you (who have a problem with the mormon religion) know what all your ansestors were involved with? I bet many would be surprized to find skeletons in your family tree. Should Obama be held accountable for his father’s actions? (His father married three separate women and never divorced any of them as well as fathered children in and out of marriage.) I don’t think so. FYI: The mormon’s ended the practice of polygamy in 1890, that is 5 generations ago and excommunicates anyone who tries to do it.
Anyway, just hoping to enlighten and help the process of educating along.

]]> By: J-rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2263385 J-rock Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:04:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2263385 <em>It is obvious that most of the comments here are typed in ignorance. It would be nice if people studied out what they said before they make fools of themselfs. Opinions are just that, opinions–not fact. Of course, all are entitled to opinions in this free country. So have at it. Comment by vb</em> It would be nice if you would actually contribute to discussing specifics of the story, instead of just pooh-poohing others who have. If someone is ignorant, have a go at educating them. If someone has confused a fact with an opinion, clear that up. Not that it will matter to you (I suppose), but I resent your condescending, unhelpful remarks. It is obvious that most of the comments here are typed in ignorance. It would be nice if people studied out what they said before they make fools of themselfs. Opinions are just that, opinions–not fact. Of course, all are entitled to opinions in this free country. So have at it.

Comment by vb

It would be nice if you would actually contribute to discussing specifics of the story, instead of just pooh-poohing others who have. If someone is ignorant, have a go at educating them. If someone has confused a fact with an opinion, clear that up.

Not that it will matter to you (I suppose), but I resent your condescending, unhelpful remarks.

]]> By: vb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2262301 vb Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:50:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2262301 It is obvious that most of the comments here are typed in ignorance. It would be nice if people studied out what they said before they make fools of themselfs. Opinions are just that, opinions--not fact. Of course, all are entitled to opinions in this free country. So have at it. It is obvious that most of the comments here are typed in ignorance. It would be nice if people studied out what they said before they make fools of themselfs. Opinions are just that, opinions–not fact. Of course, all are entitled to opinions in this free country. So have at it.

]]> By: Raymond Funamoto http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2245289 Raymond Funamoto Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:39:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2245289 HERE WE GO AGAIN, FOLKS, WITH THE SHIT-SKID-SMEAR-MARKS THAT ARE THE HALLMARK OF DELUDED UNPATRIOTIC MENDACIOUS repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderm SWIFTBOATERS, WHO ARE A CROSS BETWEEN BLACKBEARD THE PIRATE and A YELLOW-BELLIED SKUNK ROADKILL VERMIN, WITH EMPHASIS ON THE LATTER TRAIT. "THE SCARECROW OF Mitt Romney MARSH" DESERVES THESE F*CKING CREEPS AND I SEE THAT Romney IS BUSY SCRAPING THE BOTTOM OF THE SCUM-SHIT-GARBAGE BARREL AND BUSY SEARCHING UNDER ROCKS FOR THE SWIFTBOAT VERMIN TO HELP HIM SMEAR-BESMIRCH-CALUMNIZE-INNUENDO/INUNDATE HIS OPPONENTS OF BOTH PARTIES--WHAT A SCUM-SHIT Romney IS, WORSE THAN THE SWIFTBOAT VERMIN HELPING HIM!!!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN, FOLKS, WITH THE SHIT-SKID-SMEAR-MARKS THAT ARE THE HALLMARK OF DELUDED UNPATRIOTIC MENDACIOUS repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderm SWIFTBOATERS, WHO ARE A CROSS BETWEEN BLACKBEARD THE PIRATE and A YELLOW-BELLIED SKUNK ROADKILL VERMIN, WITH EMPHASIS ON THE LATTER TRAIT. “THE SCARECROW OF Mitt Romney MARSH” DESERVES THESE F*CKING CREEPS AND I SEE THAT Romney IS BUSY SCRAPING THE BOTTOM OF THE SCUM-SHIT-GARBAGE BARREL AND BUSY SEARCHING UNDER ROCKS FOR THE SWIFTBOAT VERMIN TO HELP HIM SMEAR-BESMIRCH-CALUMNIZE-INNUENDO/INUNDATE HIS OPPONENTS OF BOTH PARTIES–WHAT A SCUM-SHIT Romney IS, WORSE THAN THE SWIFTBOAT VERMIN HELPING HIM!!!!!

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2244363 Marie Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:11:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2244363 Doncha just love it -- when Dems are in trouble, they "deserve to suffer the consequences" but when Repugs get in trouble, it's "well, politicians are all the same - they ALL do it" Doncha just love it — when Dems are in trouble, they “deserve to suffer the consequences” but when Repugs get in trouble, it’s “well, politicians are all the same – they ALL do it”

]]> By: Innocent Bystander http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2239088 Innocent Bystander Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:28:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2239088 Well, Mitt is a well known war hero in Viet Nam who served his country honorably...unlike that Kerry fella. Didn't Parry also serve with Mitt? Totally understandable when you look at the records of the Republicans who know what war is all about. Just look at Cheney and Bush...now those are guys who know what war is all about. Well, Mitt is a well known war hero in Viet Nam who served his country honorably…unlike that Kerry fella. Didn’t Parry also serve with Mitt? Totally understandable when you look at the records of the Republicans who know what war is all about. Just look at Cheney and Bush…now those are guys who know what war is all about.

]]> By: shane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2231196 shane Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:53:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2231196 No, I am not a hypocrite, I just don’t care. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 16, 2007 @ 4:54 pm Just like we don't care about Hillary but you jerk offs think we all are voting for her. Have you ever watched Big Love on HBO. Romney may have more than just one wife. Its all big secrets with Mormons. That will look good on your ticket. No, I am not a hypocrite, I just don’t care. Comment by Roger_Roger — March 16, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

Just like we don’t care about Hillary but you jerk offs think we all are voting for her. Have you ever watched Big Love on HBO. Romney may have more than just one wife. Its all big secrets with Mormons. That will look good on your ticket.

]]> By: NamVet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2230745 NamVet Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:57:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2230745 As a real swift boat Vet, I hate the poser's who spew the repug crap. At least their wasting the money. As a real swift boat Vet, I hate the poser’s who spew the repug crap. At least their wasting the money.

]]> By: R http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2229189 R Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:29:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2229189 You can dress up the vomit-infused, turd of bile but you can't take him anywhere, except on a Swift Boat to hell. Oh, the horror... the horror... ! You can dress up the vomit-infused, turd of bile but you can’t take him anywhere, except on a Swift Boat to hell. Oh, the horror… the horror… !

]]> By: UKBristolDave http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2228770 UKBristolDave Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:20:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2228770 Roger_Roger I think the issue here is that the Swift Boat Veterans presented themselves as a group that wasn't aligned to a political party. This suggests that this wasn't the case at all. Hell, we all know it wasn't the case but at least they should have come out and said it. "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - backed by GOP funders." It would have been more honest wouldn't it? Roger_Roger

I think the issue here is that the Swift Boat Veterans presented themselves as a group that wasn’t aligned to a political party. This suggests that this wasn’t the case at all.

Hell, we all know it wasn’t the case but at least they should have come out and said it.

“Swift Boat Veterans for Truth – backed by GOP funders.” It would have been more honest wouldn’t it?

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2228352 Zooey Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:10:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2228352 <em>#7 No, I am not a hypocrite, I just don’t care. Comment by Roger_Roger </em> You're still a hypocrite. #7 No, I am not a hypocrite, I just don’t care.
Comment by Roger_Roger

You’re still a hypocrite.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2228221 RUCerious Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:07:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2228221 Looks Like Rudi-Doody and McPain are in for a real trashin. Looks Like Rudi-Doody and McPain are in for a real trashin.

]]> By: skeptic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2228037 skeptic Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:03:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2228037 Roger_roger; Let me tell you a fact of life. Democrats are not an organized, homogenous, goose stepping military organization. Some of us think that this is evidence that Mitt is untrustworthy because he has undesirable associates. Yes we do care which people donate money to our cause and which people to our opponents. Roger_roger; Let me tell you a fact of life. Democrats are not an organized, homogenous, goose stepping military organization. Some of us think that this is evidence that Mitt is untrustworthy because he has undesirable associates. Yes we do care which people donate money to our cause and which people to our opponents.

]]> By: anna linguist http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2227898 anna linguist Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:00:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2227898 I assure you, I DO care. I assure you, I DO care.

]]> By: Yikes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2227823 Yikes Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:59:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2227823 Once again there are idiots that post while missing the point entirely! Once again there are idiots that post while missing the point entirely!

]]> By: Roger_Roger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2227609 Roger_Roger Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:54:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2227609 #7 No, I am not a hypocrite, I just don't care. What amazes me is that TP and this crowd acts like they care. Do you honestly think either political party doesn't take money from their rich friends? Do you think either party is immune to hiring and working with donors to their campaigns? This is why I don't care because both sides do it with a smile on their face. What is funny is watching TP act like they care while they do the very same thing. #7 No, I am not a hypocrite, I just don’t care. What amazes me is that TP and this crowd acts like they care. Do you honestly think either political party doesn’t take money from their rich friends? Do you think either party is immune to hiring and working with donors to their campaigns? This is why I don’t care because both sides do it with a smile on their face. What is funny is watching TP act like they care while they do the very same thing.

]]> By: anna linguist http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2227590 anna linguist Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:53:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2227590 A "mitt" is something one sticks one's hand into the backside of, generally for catching balls. A "mitt" is not pResidential material, despite all the king's funding and all the king's men. A “mitt” is something one sticks one’s hand into the backside of, generally for catching balls.

A “mitt” is not pResidential material, despite all the king’s funding and all the king’s men.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2227494 Zimzone Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:51:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2227494 Let's see, Mitt's Grandfather had 12 wives. That's right, TWELVE! I wonder how many were that age? Shouldn't he be going 'down the Hatch' to Utah or something? Maybe then he could find the Burning Bush in the desert. Let’s see, Mitt’s Grandfather had 12 wives.
That’s right, TWELVE!

I wonder how many were that age?

Shouldn’t he be going ‘down the Hatch’ to Utah or something?

Maybe then he could find the Burning Bush in the desert.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-2227240 Zooey Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:46:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/16/swift-boaters-for-romney/#comment-2227240 And yet the wingnuts threw a shit fit when John Edwards had the nerve to hire Amanda Marcotte. Rogerx2 & Jake, you guys are hypocrites. And yet the wingnuts threw a shit fit when John Edwards had the nerve to hire Amanda Marcotte.

Rogerx2 & Jake, you guys are hypocrites.

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