REPORT: Public Support for Iraq War In Fast Decline Since 2003
REPORT: Public Support for Iraq War In Fast Decline Since 2003
Monday marks the four-year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. President Bush still believes launching this war was the right decision, and that it has been worth the cost in blood, money, damaged security and lost international reputation. The American public strongly disagrees.
American Progress fellow Ruy Teixeira has tracked polls on public support for the war since March 2003 on two key questions: 1) whether going to war was a mistake, and 2) whether the war has been worth fighting. The results:
Teixeira notes that the 59 percent ‘mistake’ figure is now “just about as high as the peak response Gallup received to an analogous question during the Vietnam war (61 percent).”
The trend is clear: the vast majority of Americans do not approve of the Iraq war, now more than ever.
For a history of the Iraq war, see our timeline HERE.
Topic Cloud
ArchivesBlog Roll
Bush response: we don’t govern by polls.
Short Bush resposne: f*k you!
March 17th, 2007 at 2:11 pmwhy dont all you who support this war sign up instead of supporting the troops from your keyboards
March 17th, 2007 at 2:12 pmCNN is showing the march’s today at the pentagon….I think a few thousand should go over to camp david where the chimp is hiding…..Blessings
March 17th, 2007 at 2:12 pm3211 US Dead
258 Coalition troops dead
800 Civillian contractors dead
650,000 Iraqis Dead
375,000 Iraqis wounded
23,417 US soldiers seriously wounded
2135 Coalition Wounded
1 president who rapes children to get the father to talk
March 17th, 2007 at 2:17 pmhmmmm…..
i really wish someone could have predicted that the war was a bad idea…
oh wait… someone did.
nevermind.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:19 pmHow long before Bush and his cronies set off a bomb in an American city so that they can run the “we fight ‘em over there rather than here” BS ?
March 17th, 2007 at 2:24 pmBye for now good friends, and you dear deluded trolls as well…
March 17th, 2007 at 2:29 pm………………off to the demonstration.
(Being sure to wear some flowers in my hair, not wanting to be mistaken by the enemy for a friendly…)
I almost have more respect for the right wingers than those lemmings “in the middle”. 20 some % of us looked at the information at hand back in 2002 and 2003 and concluded that Iraq was a distraction away from Al Qeada. We were ignored by the masses. 20 some % of the right wingers were all for war no matter against who or why from the begining. And they still think that way today. But what about these flip flopper peer pressure lemmings in the “middle”? …. cant they think for themselves? They had the same evidence the rest of us did. Either they made a decision based on NO evidence or they simply went with who ever made the most noise and chest thumping (right wingers)… For a country that believes in individualism we are sure a bunch of lemmings.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:34 pmHow long before Bush and his cronies set off a bomb in an American city so that they can run the “we fight ‘em over there rather than here†BS ?
Comment by DutchHenry
Sometime late next summer, so that the can also use it as an excuse to suspend the upcoming elections.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:42 pmFor a country that believes in individualism we are sure a bunch of lemmings.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr
Moral cowards is more apt. Can anyone believe that if our ancestors had been confronted by terrorists killing three thousand, that they would have responded by allowing politicians to destroy American freedoms? The settlers would have laughed at us, and called us greenhorns. America’s settlers were a rangy lot, with many faults, but cowardice certainly wasn’t one of them.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThe Korean War was unpopular, and Truman was later remembered as a great President who took on communism.
Well, even though Bush isn’t popular now thanks to libs pounding on him for years, he will be remembered as a GREAT President who confronted terrorism head on and made America safer while doing a lot of good things domestically.
Pelosi? She and her cronies will be remembered as the modern day Chamberlin. Real terrorist appeasers.
March 17th, 2007 at 2:51 pmWho could have predicted…..
Oh, pretty much anybody but THE DICKHEADS IN CHARGE!~
March 17th, 2007 at 2:53 pm#11 mirehead…
March 17th, 2007 at 3:01 pmIf G. Dubious is lucky, he will spend the rest of his days wandering lonely along a drywash in Crawford…
An unpopular President escalating an unpopular war. And Bush wonders why he is hovering around 30% approval and nobody believes him or Gonzales (or Cheney or Rove or any of those neocon clowns).
March 17th, 2007 at 3:03 pmFast Decline Since 2003:
March 17th, 2007 at 3:05 pmEven with the abundance of RW propaganda and the lack of independent on-the-ground reporting.
While you would think more and more people would get angry and speak out about the administration, you have to wonder if the level of corruption and abuse of rights doesn’t have many too scared to express any dissent. Wouldn’t that be the mission of this kind of government to get citizens looking over their shoulders to make sure they won’t get in trouble for their opinions.
Moral cowards nothing, full-fledged, dyed in the wool actual cowards is more like it. Following the crooks that are stealing our democracy like lambs to slaughter.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:06 pmWhy does firebreath hate 70% of America?
March 17th, 2007 at 3:07 pmHeres a great watch
Trump “Everything in Washington is a Lie”
March 17th, 2007 at 3:08 pmTRUMP: BUSH ‘PROBABLY THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES’
#11, firehead,
Saturday afternoon is the perfect time for comedy, thanks for that. Good humor.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI almost have more respect for the right wingers
these respectful right wingers are actually hypocritical cowards they should be fighting in Iraq for what they beleive ??? At least left wingers have a reason to be objecting from keyboards
March 17th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThis is a very real phenomen, shane.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:19 pmPeople have become afraid, afraid for themselves, their children, their future.
The thought of personal financial data being retrieved, cell phones which can be remotely turned on to function as a bug (and which also now have GPS chips in them, and can be located anywhere)
The continuing operation of TIA, the banned information gathering program which is the brainchild of one convcted felon named John Poindexter, Nixon’s chief of staff.
FBI wiretapping, NSA surveilance,
and on and on and on…..
Yes, the average citizen knows things are out of control, but they have been terrorized by the Military/Industrial/ Security/ Pharmaceutical Corporate Complex.
Tobey.. #18
March 17th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI’ve never been a big Trump fan, but in this case I have to say that he’s hit the nail right on the head.
Hey, Look at the amount of money spent in Iraq, soon someone in US will be richer than microsoft boss, taking kick backs and political donations from the ammunitions supplier. History has proven that war mongers make the most money in their short political career. And all the right-wings males who have the urge to kill another human being, will be sent to iraq to end their genes there before they can reproduce themselves. fair enough huh ?
March 17th, 2007 at 3:25 pmPeople was really stupid in 2003.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:35 pmNot only did the Donald hit the nail on the head – he stated why W will never withdraw from Iraq – a bigger foe then Saddam will rise from the ass’s ashes.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:42 pmAlan,
I like your idea, but we are talking about cowards that cheer for war but never offer up their own skin for the game. The poster boy for this chickenhawkery is of course the veep with his 6 deferments from Vietnam. The hypocrisy, greed and cowardice make me physically ill.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:42 pmLook at you libs. None of you address how Bush is like Truman and LBJ and history will vindicate him. You don’t address my POINTS.
You guys act like you like Truman, LBJ, and JFK, when in fact, they would be embarrassed by your ilk. There was a day when Democrats cared about national security. Compare Truman to Harry Reed or John “the Breck girl” Edwards. It’s a joke.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI’m not sure “really stupid” is apt. People were really Scared Sh*tless in 2003. Snipers and Anthrax. The Bush propaganda and scare tactics were relentless. Only later did people realize how incredibly incompetent and “asleep at the switch” the Bush administration was with regards to the terrorist Warnings of 2001.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:49 pmAs I stated earlier this morning, mr. miredhead, one of the greatest challenges to problem solving is staying on task and in the present.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:52 pmDredging up dead presidents does nothing to address current issues.
And besides, you are just throwing any old non-sequiters together with the express purpose of confounding any given topic.
(I do have compassion for you however, as you exhibit the classic symptoms of having had a Nintendo childhood.)
27
Fireant:
Comparing bush and truman is like comparing Superman, and you in your pajamas. Even though you both wear blue tights with a big S on your chests, Superman can leap over buildings in a single bound, and fights for truth, justice, and the American way. You wait until mommy tucks you in and turns out the light, then you masturbate.
March 17th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#30 – bob (not the hacker),
March 17th, 2007 at 3:58 pmFireants can be pretty irratating, I know, I live in FL – never mind…
There was a day when Democrats cared about national security.
Comment by firehead
To qualify that you need to convince us that ‘victory’ in Iraq somehow makes us safer. Saddam, crazy as he was, never did ANYTHING to harm America in the 20 years prior to the Iraq War II. (Unless you want to say that we needed Kuwait’s oil.) Bush just says “oh he was a bad guy”. As if that justifies the unprovoked takeover of a sovereign nation.
From another recent thread on Iraq, jake’s definition of ‘victory’ is basically the same as Bush’s – as they stand up, we stand down. So, as we ‘win’, we should be able to reduce the number of troops there. As you may know, four years after the beginning of the war, Bush is talking about a ’surge’ in troops. Thus, by this definition we are clearly losing. Maybe the strategy of reducing the number of troops would force Iraqis to stand up more on their own and actually do better to help us win the war.
However, the Bush plan is NOT to ‘win’ by giving control of the country over to the Iraqis. Do you think we will ever give control of the green zone to the Iraqis? Why does our embassy in Iraq cost way more than our other embassies around the world? Why can’t Bush come out and say we are not planning permanent bases in Iraq? The reality is that there was no ‘exit strategy’ from the beginning. We are planning on controlling Iraq for as long as we can get away with it. THAT is what Bush Co. considers winning. Of course, they just don’t want to tell the truth about this.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:03 pmSenators Urge Inquiry After Mohammed Alleges Abuse
According to one portion of the transcript made public earlier this week, however, Mohammed told the panel of three unnamed military officers that his children had been held for four months and abused during his incarceration.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:06 pmTruman fought the Korean War under UNITED NATIONS auspices. LBJ’s conscience bothered him so much , he declined to run for reelction. JFK ignored the advice of his right wing generals to attack CUBA, and Probably avoided World War III.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:07 pmThe problem with Historical Vindication is that you have to Wait a While. Bush is on his way to losing TWO WARS.
Re Walt the Man,
You’re right, I should just spray the nimrod with Raid and be done with it. That as-sine argument that bush will be “redeemed by History” is so lame. first off, truman didn’t lie us into the Korean War. He didn’t fabricate a threat. He didn’t hide behind the troops and then shaft them every chance he got. Then there’s the whole argument that we were fighting the commies. the system of totalitarian power has pretty much fallen apart from its own weight. Vietnam is turning capitalist, China is capitalist, and stealing our jobs. Russia collapsed because they got bogged down in Afghanistan and was defeated by Osama bin Laden..Russia is now a free-market crime zone.
but idiots like fireant want to just wave the flag and send other people’s kids to their deaths so they can feel like tough guys.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:11 pmFireant?
There have been several responses to your “thought provoking” post, why haven’t you responded?
March 17th, 2007 at 4:13 pmPalestinian unity cabinet approved
Just look at the show of hands in this photo and the big grins ,,,Nice to see
March 17th, 2007 at 4:15 pmWHAT “Public Support” for the Iraq INVASION(NOT WAR)? THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THIS FARCE FOISTED UPON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC BY THE WORLD’S NUMBER ONE TERRORIST AND INSIDIOUS WAR CRIMINAL, THE NAZI-HITLER-FASCIST-BEAST CHIMPya W. Bush, Torticola DICK-Less B(ugger) FRANKENCheney, Karl Miss Piggy FAT-F*CK Rove and THE REST OF THE DASTARDLY WAR CRIMINALS AND INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVES FROM JUSTICE OF Bushland Uber Allies!!!!!
March 17th, 2007 at 4:16 pmMy post in response to firehead was lost to the censors.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAs near as I can reconstruct it using $$ instead of ss:
The only thing that Truman, LBJ, and JFK share with Bush is the word ‘a$$hole’. Truman, LBJ, and JFK had one and Bush is one.
During the Reagan/Bush years many scholars believed that it was the administration that was prolonging the cold war so that the weapons manufacturers could keep making the big bucks. It was believed that the Soviets had been trying to surrender for ten years..
I suspect it was this legacy that encouraged Bush/Cheney to find an enemy to continue the tradition of enriching the industrial military complex.
No wonder neocons were so upset during the Clinton years. But it also appears the deception has been going on longer than just these last 6 years.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:23 pmOne more thing firehead – You also need to explain how attacking Iraq was taking on terrorism. There was no credible, documented relationship between Saddam and Al-Qaeda prior to the Iraq War II. 19 of the 20 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
Just because our actions led to Iraq being a breeding ground for terrorism doesn’t mean that we can now claim we fought the war to fight terror.
There is little doubt about it, Bush will go down as the worst president in American history. Iraq will continue to be a quagmire at best. Instead of confronting and trying to correct our polluting, excessive use of oil, Bush has tried to perpetuate it by taking control Iraq. Global warming will become the main problem we face in the coming years and Bush will be remembered, hopefully, as the last president that flatly ignored the problem.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:27 pmyes your right Shane read this
Forget Israel, Befriend Russia
Future historians may view the failure to bring Russia into the West, when the opportunity was there, as one of history’s all-time strategic blunders.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:29 pmAnd the numbers keep dropping commensurate with the murders of innocent military I’d say.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:30 pmIt’s called “projection” – that’s what this WH is full of. Nobody there has spent the first day in true combat so they’re “fantasizing” about what it must be like. Collectively, 5 draft deferrments for Dodger Cheney and an AWOL national guard Dubya and, oh yes, pudge-boy Karly Rove….guess he flunked the physical due to the “don’t ask/don’t tell rule”….it was written all over his overweight face.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWe all know that our involvement in Iraq created more terrorism in the middle east than ever before. Statistically, Saddam was such a tyrant that there were little to no terrorists in his country at all.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:32 pmGlobal warming will become the main problem we face in the coming years and Bush will be remembered, hopefully, as the last president that flatly ignored the problem.
Bush supports Global warming and is using it as a WMD
March 17th, 2007 at 4:32 pmAnd we all know the ugly truth now that “taking on Iraq” simply meant an oil grab to fill the coffers of the Bush Family (Carlyle Group) and the Cheney Clan (Haliburton)…..other than that, we had no moral interest in anything transpiring there. If we did desire to release their people from a dictatorship, then why not crusade into all of the dictatorships around the world and invade their sovereign countries? We all know why – Iraq has mega OIL – which means MEGA BUCKS for Bush’s BIG OIL corporate/war profiteering machine.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:35 pmSince the US is one of the major contributors to global warming and one of the only two countries to not sign onto KYOTO, it pretty much sums up the philosophy of this administration: WHO CARES WHAT DESTRUCTION WE BRING TO OTHERS? If they cared, they wouldn’t be robbing peter to pay paul and allowing China to clearly own over one-third of this country right now. If they really cared, they’d be concerned about the horrendous debt (if not total bankruptcy of the country) which we are putting on the backs of our children and grandchildren…..
Sadly, but a very necessary lesson being learned, this government cares nothing about it’s people. It’s all about corporate greed and excess – and the middle class of this country is a vanishing breed.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:38 pmYou Bet the weapons manufacturers were concerned when the cold war ended. When the Berlin Wall fell… it fell right on their Golden Goose. Remember the Peace Dividend. Our nations resources were devoted to Jobs and a balanced Budget, and not into their pockets.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:40 pmBob Dylan said it all in his song “Masters of War”.
Comment by Tobey Tall — March 17, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Befriend Russia – they look like us, act like us, think like us – that would be crazy.
In fact I was just listening to something on Air America radio that said it’s not all Israelis who send money here but the small, pro-war Likud (sic) party that does.
Thanks for the link Tobey
March 17th, 2007 at 5:09 pmWhat the hell is with the 2-4% who are “UNSURE?”
March 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pmI guess all the slaves and sheep are waking up from thier self-induced hypnosis. Helllewww… ?
Standing at the brink of the great dark abyss, all I can say is: IT’S ABOUT FREAKING TIME! Now, if we can just get rid of this pesky W.
Q. Why do they call him W.?
March 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmA . So he can spell it.
Ruy Texiera is of the Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky, school of “America the Loathsome”. But seriously TP – your ORIGINAL headline, “Public Support for Iraq War In Fast Decline Since 2003″ doesn’t address the “positive” agenda Progressives offer – the “Let’s Treat Terrorists Like Criminals” approach. Yep – those trials of the first WTC bombing really scared the $h*t out of Al Queda…..Thanks for leading by example, Progressives.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:29 pmFirehead, Truman got popular partly by insisting on investigations into war profiteering while his own party controlled congress. That sounds like the polar opposite of GW Bush, if you ask me. Truman wanted to extend Medicare benefits to all Americans – universal healthcare. Does that sound like Bush to you? Truman also successfully ended a huge war. Bush hasn’t even successfully ended a regional skirmish.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:29 pmFirehead, I hate to break it to you but historians, using criteria they have been using to rate presidents for the last 50 or so years, are already overwhelmingly of the opinion that GW Bush will be rated among the worst, if not the worst, presidents in history. There was an article a few months ago published in the Washington Post. Just google on “worst president” AND “Washington Post” Then, read it and weep.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:33 pmRe: 53
“Yep – those trials of the first WTC bombing really scared the $h*t out of Al Queda…..Thanks for leading by example, Progressives.”
Yeah, Democracy in action. Clinton was able to find, capture, try and jail the criminals. Let’s look at your boy’s record. Terrorism up, bin laden laughing at us. No one in the world will believe us, or help us the next time we’re attacked because chimpy lied so much and so often. you’re dumber than fireant venereal venus.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:37 pmIt’s tragicomic that there are Americans who think a misanthropic, souless, nymphomaniac sociopath like Ayn Rand was a genius and, at the same time, ridicule people like Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky. Must be come kind of a mental illness.
March 17th, 2007 at 5:39 pm#55 – BluePuP – Your same “credible” data was contemporaneously reflective of President Lincoln. Time tempered the lens of later historians….
Can I ask you a question? How come so many dope-smoking ’60’s war protestors ( NOW gray and long haired ) seem to be trying to re-live their “romantic” youth….I think Viagra has given them a new lease on “make love not war!”
March 17th, 2007 at 5:47 pmAll the terrorist plots broken up since Sept. 11 were stopped by competent “Police work”. Bush’s Incompetent war effort in Iraq was just what Al Qaeda wanted, a Quagmire to show what a 400 Billion dollar Military CAN’T DO!!
March 17th, 2007 at 5:54 pm#54 - Truman – ahhh yes…. a President I admired – for dropping the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs thus ENDING WWII. The “buck stops here” and a FEROCIOUS anti-Communist….However, did you mention – - KOREA?? You are one of my favourite cherry pickers! I mean that sincerely!! Really!!
Non-Hack Bob – Those WTCI trials sure acted as a deterrent …..(sarcasm off)
March 17th, 2007 at 6:08 pmBluePuP – I’ll try to expand my mind re: Zinn and Chomky. If you would refer me to ANY positive writings regarding the United States by these two, I would LOVE to read them. I’ll get a new pen out as I’m certain the list will be tremendously looooong.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:11 pmre #59
Actually, they did. There were no other acts of terrorism committed on US soil (not counting republican tim mcvie) during Clinton’s time in office. The terrorists waited until we no longer had competent leadership and then they struck. case closed.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:16 pm#11/#27 bonehead
You got “dog tags” to show us?
‘Cause the Iraq veterans I’ve spoken to have no pride in this occupation.
Either show us your dog tags or STFU.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:18 pmMay I suggest, valium venus, that you bypass the aforementioned authors, as they may be a bit more than you can comprehend.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI would like to aquaint you with Chalmers Johnson, and his latest book “The Sorrows of Empire”
It has an excellent and readable style, and will give you the clear and concise bigger picture you so desperately need.
Don’t mention it!
That last sentence should read: Game, set, match.
There, fixed that for ya.
:-D
March 17th, 2007 at 6:40 pmRaven – Thank you for offering to assist BluePuP – I’ll give your suggestion a try after I read some “positive” Zinn/Chomsky. Maybe she could dig up some “inspiring” Barbara Ehrenreich for me while she’s at it. Again, thank you for you thoughtful offer – too sweet!
March 17th, 2007 at 6:50 pmNon-hack Bob – And don’t you just admire the way former President Clinton handled the USS Cole bombing!??! Such leadership! Thank you for broadening my horizons…..
March 17th, 2007 at 6:51 pmThe US did not establish who bombed the USS Cole until Clinton was out of office. What did Bush do about this Act of War for 9 months when he found out it was Al Qaeda????
March 17th, 2007 at 6:56 pmActually Chalmers Johnson teaches down the road from me @ UCSD. He is quite a “hero” among anti-American anti-war types. Poor thing, the collapse of the Soviet Union was almost more than he could bear!! (no pun intended)
March 17th, 2007 at 6:57 pm“The US did not establish who bombed the USS Cole until Clinton was out of office. What did Bush do about this Act of War for 9 months when he found out it was Al Qaeda????” Comment by Badger
Reallly?? Thank you for your input – but I’d say Naval Intelligence knows just a tad more than you! I’d say President Clinton’s Peace dividend didn’t pay off too well, did it? Don’t get me wrong, compared to Hillary, Bill is warm and fuzzy – a very likeable person with the morals of rabbit. (I supported Bill’s Bosnian campaign – and thought the lobbed missiles into Afghanistan were too little – - too latte`.)
Thanks for repeating the same ol’ talking points – one can NEVER get enough of monotony……
March 17th, 2007 at 7:07 pmOur poor Haggie…..
Self-loathing woman who loathes everyone and everything not her.
She just can’t win.
Bless her heart.
March 17th, 2007 at 7:24 pm(in the best southern tradition, of course)
63. Comment by Raven — March 17, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Raven, valiumhead has to get permission from her handlers before she’s allowed to read any books.
March 17th, 2007 at 7:26 pmAnd Rove has the weekend off. They’re afraid if she reads anything that doesn’t follow the party line her brain will kick in and she won’t be all Stepford Wifey.
Thanks for repeating the same ol’ talking points – one can NEVER get enough of monotony……
Comment by valiant venus — March 17, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
Well valium breath, if you aren’t just the dirtiest little pot head calling the kettle black. That last line about talking points and monotony should be tattooed on your forehead so that when you look in the mirror, or the toilet in your case, you see it.
March 17th, 2007 at 7:30 pmAccording to Bill Clinton’s interview on Fox News, the Bush Administration had NO meetings on Bin Laden for Nine Months after he left office. So the answer to my question about what Bush did for 9 months after the Cole was bombed is….NOTHING. And the Peace Dividend did bring up one important thing …. the stark difference between 8 years of peace and prosperity and what we’ve got now.
March 17th, 2007 at 8:06 pmThanks for repeating the same ol’ talking points – one can NEVER get enough of monotony…… Comment by valiant venus — March 17, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
Project much, you st*pid little c*nt? Same ol’ talking points? You mean like you repeating the same b*llsh*t that’s been floating around since the 1970s?
For someone that’s 23, your brain is remarkable fossilized, you st*pid little c*nt!
March 17th, 2007 at 8:06 pmReallly?? Thank you for your input – but I’d say Naval Intelligence knows just a tad more than you! I’d say President Clinton’s Peace dividend didn’t pay off too well, did it? Comment by valiant venus — March 17, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
You’re confusing Bush the Senior and Cheney with Clinton again, you r*tarded little brat. It was Cheney as a Senator during the first Bush admin that pushed the peace dividend. Clinton raised the military budget.
I can understand why you’d hate yourselves though, considering Cheney bragged about having cut more military programs than any politician in history! The truth has a liberal bias – st*pid c*nt!
Don’t get me wrong, compared to Hillary, Bill is warm and fuzzy – a very likeable person with the morals of rabbit. (I supported Bill’s Bosnian campaign – and thought the lobbed missiles into Afghanistan were too little – - too latte`.) Comment by valiant venus — March 17, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
Perhaps if st*pid c*nts like you weren’t harassing him about his *personal* life, he would have not been too ‘latte’, st*pid little c*nt. While we’re on morals, you still telling those dead baby jokes, and supporting pedophiles and mass murderers? Don’t worry Mighty c*nt, no one is *ever* going to accuse you of being a ‘likable’ person, or one that can spell!
Thanks for repeating the same ol’ talking points – one can NEVER get enough of monotony…… Comment by valiant venus — March 17, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
Yeah, same old talking points – like ones about *Clinton* and the *peace-dividends*?
You’re mentally retarded, or is it just the hunger that makes you a st*pid c*nt?
March 17th, 2007 at 8:10 pmI find it stunning that in the 21st century 70% of people supported the war. People still seem to think that starting war is a valid tool of government.
I remember watching the bombs raining down on Baghdad. I lived in a boarding house at the time and people were watching death and destruction live on TV for entertainment. One guy was cheering. The commentators were boasting about how wonderfully precise the American military was… as death and destruction were flashing before our eyes.
To those who read this in future enlightened years: Yes, it really happened.
Martin Gifford.
March 17th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#75 I agree with your assessment of Dick Cheney, but I don’t think he was a Senator. He was House Minority Whip before becoming Papa Bush’s defense secretary. Of course Wyoming has two Senators and only One Congressman.
March 17th, 2007 at 8:30 pm#75 I agree with your assessment of Dick Cheney, but I don’t think he was a Senator. He was House Minority Whip before becoming Papa Bush’s defense secretary. Of course Wyoming has two Senators and only One Congressman. Comment by Badger — March 17, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
You are correct. I wrote Senate, and I meant Congressman.
Lets not forget his stint as SODefense.
Over Cheney’s four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, the Department of Defense’s total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion.
Come on Valiant Venus, give us a big teary cry session about how the GOP tried to destroy our defense! Oh wait, that contradicts your *revisionist-history*! You’ll always prefer to blame the *Dems* because the *Dims* that run your party fcuk everything up, especially their children (YOU!).
Mighty Aphrodite, you’re a St*pid lying C*nt!!!
March 17th, 2007 at 9:17 pmThis really isn’t new or news is it?
March 17th, 2007 at 10:51 pmOnce again MA,
Your debating skills are pathetic. Talk to the issue at hand… No, this thread has nothing to do with Clinton in any way.
Stop trying to draw attention to something unrelated.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:55 pmLemme see if I can help valium venusian out.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:02 pmClinton, liberals, terror, help, waaah.
That should just about do it.
Clinton, liberals, terror, help, waaah.
That should just about do it.
Comment by RUCerious
Crystal clear. I dont know how so many people waste so much time with that dumb frightened wall. The good thing is that I get to learn a lot.
March 17th, 2007 at 11:25 pmOh, by the way, in case I haven’t told you lately.
F*ck This War, F*ck the F*cking idiots who started and support it~!
March 17th, 2007 at 11:41 pmAnd yet the Dem party has now decided to fully support the Iraq war and even vote to extend it. You even have Hillary Clinton who not only supports the war, but has gone on record as saying we need to keep at least 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinetly. I guess this is just one more story to prove how our President and the Dem controlled congress doesn’t listen to the people. Sadly, they even lie to us to get elected. Just a few months ago we had the Dems run a campaign promising to end the war. That messege gets them elected and they head to Washington. Within 2 months, they switch positions and now fully support the war. I wonder how that move sat with the base? My guess is the base will somehow defend the Dems knew pro Iraq war position.
March 18th, 2007 at 12:15 amRoger_Roger, don’t you get tired of spreading lies? Or is it *fun* for you, since you fcukheads aren’t good at anything *but* lying?
Why do you hate America Roger? Why are you a *terrorist* against american values? You piece of sh*t!
March 18th, 2007 at 1:30 amYes, R2DumbT00 is back, taking a Jake all over the threads on the site.
March 18th, 2007 at 1:49 am[...] director Pedro Almodovar marched in Madrid behind a banner reading “End the occupation in Iraq, shut down [...]
March 18th, 2007 at 7:27 am#69 Regarding Clintons role in pursuing the attackers of the USS Cole. From a staff statement of the 911 commision…by Nov 21 2000, the CIA made a “preliminary judgement” tha t “Al Qaeda appeared to have supported the attack” with “NO definitive conclusion”.
March 18th, 2007 at 7:36 amSo if Naval Intelligence knew something, they failed to pass it on to the CIA. And Bush had 9 months to Do something about Bin Laden before Sept 11, and had NO meetings about it. He’s also had 5 1/2 YEARS to catch Bin Laden.
64% of Americans are against the war. But it takes 60% to overcome the fillibuster hurdle in the Senate. And there are other consdierations. Democracy doesn’t quite work the way you’d expect. Now if the war suddenly goes well, or the ‘insurgents’ just lay low, maybe the public mood will change again…
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 amI think this website has some gatekeepers.
I suggested that to end the war, to end the revocation of Civil Liberties, and to bring justice to those who lied into war, look into the roots of 9/11.
My comment was pulled.
Is this what democracy looks like?
Shame on you.
March 18th, 2007 at 12:08 pmIgnore #89. They brough it back. Thanks.
March 18th, 2007 at 12:10 pm“It was Cheney as a Senator during the first Bush admin that pushed the peace dividend. “
*sigh* Cheney was never a U.S. Senator.
March 18th, 2007 at 12:58 pmDEATH TOLL IN IRAQ 1 MILLION READ SKY NEWS FRONT PAGE
TIME TO IMPEACH THAT DOG OF WAR BUSH…….
March 18th, 2007 at 4:47 pmI’m always shocked by these polls showing a solid 30% supporting Bush and the war . . . that’s not an insignificant minority, and the 60% anti-Bush do not make a “vast majority.” This really must be the stupidest country on earth if barely more than half the population will call bullshit on Bush at this point!!
March 19th, 2007 at 4:09 pmp.s. by way of contrast, something like 90% of Spain was against going to Iraq . . . in 2003!!
March 19th, 2007 at 4:11 pm[...] Think Progress Monday, March 19, 2007 [...]
March 19th, 2007 at 8:37 pm