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]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/comment-page-12/#comment-2910992 Lora Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:03:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/#comment-2910992 Should have written to #598 I any case, you asked me a few times what I thought Gannon/Guckert's visits meant. Then, when I gave you my honest opinion, you started accusing me of making "groundless accusations." Not groundless to me, when logs about Gannon's many visits to the WH exist, and the Bush crowd has refused to provide Reps. John Conyers and Louise Slaughter information about the hooker's visits to the WH. Don't you conservatives always say about warrantless wiretapping, "Why worry if you have nothing to hide?" Maybe Bush should be put under oath like Clinton. And I probably will not reply to you any more about this here; it's gone on too long already. Should have written to #598
I any case, you asked me a few times what I thought Gannon/Guckert’s visits meant. Then, when I gave you my honest opinion, you started accusing me of making “groundless accusations.” Not groundless to me, when logs about Gannon’s many visits to the WH exist, and the Bush crowd has refused to provide Reps. John Conyers and Louise Slaughter information about the hooker’s visits to the WH.
Don’t you conservatives always say about warrantless wiretapping, “Why worry if you have nothing to hide?” Maybe Bush should be put under oath like Clinton.
And I probably will not reply to you any more about this here; it’s gone on too long already.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/comment-page-12/#comment-2909505 Lora Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:38:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/#comment-2909505 #599 You asked what I thought Gannon/Guckert's visits meant a number of times; I simply gave you my answer. There is not much else I can conclude about a hooker still advertising his (or her, for that matter) services for $200/hr. even while showing up at the WH even before the website Talon News existed. If you look at the thread on USA Today's article about Clinton's sex life, you will see much stronger "accusations" about Bush and Gannon than mine. I really would like to end this. You have your opinion, and I have mine. #599
You asked what I thought Gannon/Guckert’s visits meant a number of times; I simply gave you my answer. There is not much else I can conclude about a hooker still advertising his (or her, for that matter) services for $200/hr. even while showing up at the WH even before the website Talon News existed.
If you look at the thread on USA Today’s article about Clinton’s sex life, you will see much stronger “accusations” about Bush and Gannon than mine. I really would like to end this. You have your opinion, and I have mine.

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/comment-page-12/#comment-2895281 Tracy Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:13:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/#comment-2895281 #597 "I didn’t make specific accusations" You didn't? From #588 "For the record, yes, I think Gannon was sexually servicing someone in the WH; whether it was Bush, Rove or someone else, I can’t say." "...you are not going to be changing my mind" I am not trying to. I am just pointing out that you have zero proof. "...but I am sure you would be suspicious." Yes I too would by suspicious, but I wouldn't make accusations without proof like you did. "Finally, Marc Rich’s pardon has no more to do with this thread than Bush Sr.’s pardons of the various men implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal." I know I was just seeing if you could answer a question of my own considering you kept asking me the same question over and over after I told you I don't know. #597

“I didn’t make specific accusations”

You didn’t?

From #588

“For the record, yes, I think Gannon was sexually servicing someone in the WH; whether it was Bush, Rove or someone else, I can’t say.”

“…you are not going to be changing my mind”

I am not trying to. I am just pointing out that you have zero proof.

“…but I am sure you would be suspicious.”

Yes I too would by suspicious, but I wouldn’t make accusations without proof like you did.

“Finally, Marc Rich’s pardon has no more to do with this thread than Bush Sr.’s pardons of the various men implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal.”

I know I was just seeing if you could answer a question of my own considering you kept asking me the same question over and over after I told you I don’t know.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/comment-page-12/#comment-2810697 Lora Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:01:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/#comment-2810697 #597 I told you, after being pressed by you several times, what I thought a gay hooker's visits to the WH meant; I didn't make specific accusations. Can we stop this already? Since you have no explanation of why a gay hooker would be visiting the WH, clearly not as a reporter, you are not going to be changing my mind. Moreover, you can say you wouldn't make accusations about a Dem president if a hooker of any gender were making nocturnal visits to the WH, but I am sure you would be suspicious. Finally, Marc Rich's pardon has no more to do with this thread than Bush Sr.'s pardons of the various men implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal. #597
I told you, after being pressed by you several times, what I thought a gay hooker’s visits to the WH meant; I didn’t make specific accusations.
Can we stop this already? Since you have no explanation of why a gay hooker would be visiting the WH, clearly not as a reporter, you are not going to be changing my mind. Moreover, you can say you wouldn’t make accusations about a Dem president if a hooker of any gender were making nocturnal visits to the WH, but I am sure you would be suspicious.
Finally, Marc Rich’s pardon has no more to do with this thread than Bush Sr.’s pardons of the various men implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal.

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/comment-page-12/#comment-2807856 Tracy Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:14:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/18/mtp-iraq-debate/#comment-2807856 #595 "Look up the meaning of “conspiracy;” your use of it in the case involving a gay hooker’s visits to the WH is overblown." Conspiracy: An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act. So having said that and since you have no proof of anywrong doing or illegal act...it is a conspiracy theory. "Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be all over this if a hooker of any gender were known to be visiting the WH with a Democrat president." I wouldn't be accusing a democratic president or administration of illegal activity if I didn't have any real evidence. You, however, don't seem to have trouble doing it. "...but various people have mentioned Gannon/Guckert in various threads." That's why I said in this thread and since you mentioned it to me. "We all know about the BJ; we don’t need to hear about it endlessly a decade later." I mention the lying to a grand jury part and the impeachment, which was not because he got a BJ. I doesn't make a difference to me what he lied about. "I’m not going to extend this thread with a discussion of Marc Rich. Why don’t you ask his lawyer, Scooter Libby?" Wht don't you just say I don't know? I already did multple times about the gay hooker in the White House. #595

“Look up the meaning of “conspiracy;” your use of it in the case involving a gay hooker’s visits to the WH is overblown.”

Conspiracy: An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act. So having said that and since you have no proof of anywrong doing or illegal act…it is a conspiracy theory.

“Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be all over this if a hooker of any gender were known to be visiting the WH with a Democrat president.”

I wouldn’t be accusing a democratic president or administration of illegal activity if I didn’t have any real evidence. You, however, don’t seem to have trouble doing it.

“…but various people have mentioned Gannon/Guckert in various threads.”

That’s why I said in this thread and since you mentioned it to me.

“We all know about the BJ; we don’t need to hear about it endlessly a decade later.”

I mention the lying to a grand jury part and the impeachment, which was not because he got a BJ. I doesn’t make a difference to me what he lied about.

“I’m not going to extend this thread with a discussion of Marc Rich. Why don’t you ask his lawyer, Scooter Libby?”

Wht don’t you just say I don’t know? I already did multple times about the gay hooker in the White House.

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