“I really regret bringing down the statue,”
said Kadhim al-Jubouri, an Iraqi weightlifter who was enlisted to help bring down the statute in 2003. “The Americans are worse than the dictatorship. Every day is worse than the previous day.” He added that he would prefer to be living under Saddam than under U.S. occupation: “The devil you know [is] better than the devil you don’t. We no longer know friend from foe. The situation is becoming more dangerous. It’s not getting better at all. People are poor and the prices are going higher and higher.”
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he’s just not used to the freedom yet! Get over it! you’re free to riot and blow sh!t up now!
March 19th, 2007 at 3:44 pmwhat a bunch of whiney babies!
March 19th, 2007 at 3:45 pmAnother rousing endorsement for the Bush policy. /sarcasm off/
March 19th, 2007 at 3:46 pmEverything that is touched by the anti-Midas (Bush) is destroyed. Many have learned this and many more will suffer the consequences. If the people wait too long, then even the entire planet will suffer. The anti-Midas must be stopped.
March 19th, 2007 at 3:47 pmApparently al-Jubouri wasn’t part of Roger_Rhetoric’s poll… ^_^
March 19th, 2007 at 3:48 pmSo this is what happens when political power brokers install a near-sighted greedy self serving little tyrant. I’m talk’n the USA. Iraq was doing just about as well as it could. Until we showed up, that is.
Heck of a job, Bushy!
ITMFA now!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 3:49 pmIt took Jubouri MORE than 4 years to get to know Saddam?!
March 19th, 2007 at 3:50 pmFrom the article linked by ThinkProgress:
“According to an opinion poll of 5,000 Iraqis carried out over the past month, 49% say they are better off now than under Saddam, and 26% say life was better under Saddam.”
March 19th, 2007 at 3:51 pmAMEN BROTHER!!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 3:51 pmPeople are poor and the prices are going higher and higher.â€
Are you sure he isn’t talking about Jimmy Carter?
March 19th, 2007 at 3:52 pm4 trolls in the first 10 posts! Must be a record.
March 19th, 2007 at 3:56 pmWHAT?!?!?!?!?
I thought that propping up a conservative utopia, free from social safety nets and worker protections, was going to work out as well as the Marshall Plan did after World War II. Didn’t the really smart Neo-Con guys tell us that? I’m shocked that this is happening and am likely simply to not believe it.
It makes more sense that we just keep shooting people until they realize they love us and want to be like us. They will never hand over their fanatical religious beliefs (or their oil) unless it is at the working end of an American automatic weapon.
Prices wouldn’t be so bad if they would just lower taxes!!!! Lower taxes fixes everything that a society needs fixed.
Those “Poor” people he refers to need to get off their lazy rears and get jobs right? It’s all the Iraqi’s fault. We are just trying to help them.
(Sarcasm ought to be obvious here!)
March 19th, 2007 at 3:56 pmMy God, you know things are bad when life under Saddam looks like the good old days!
Bush has completely destroyed a nation that posed no threat to us. What a shameful legacy.
March 19th, 2007 at 3:59 pmAll y’all can go to hell. Stop complainin’ and belly aching as we say.
If you had any balls at all you’d impeach. Otherwise STFU!
March 19th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWhen’s the statue of Bush being erected?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:01 pmHmmm. Lemme take a wild stab at this. Sunni? Think Progress apparently didn’t care enough about the other people in Iraq:
Wow, Think Progress cherry-picking the reality they want to be true instead of the one in existence. Who woulda thunk it? Can you blame them though? They’re just taking the headlines from the “conservative” media and leaving out all the caveats. Ah, I remember the days when cherry-picking and leaving out caveats was frowned upon by the Left.
I guess it’s allowed as long as they’re the ones doing it.
Think Progress: We Only Care About 26% of Iraqis, Not the 49% Who Disagree With Us
March 19th, 2007 at 4:04 pmAll y’all can go to hell. Stop complainin’ and belly aching as we say.
If you had any balls at all you’d impeach. Otherwise STFU!
Comment by Real RedNeck
Piss off. This is America, you little coward.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:04 pmExley makes a valid point. This is one man’s opinion and he regrets his role in that staged day but the statistics show 49% are better off. It must have really sucked under Saddam.
There is so much more than a statistic or an opinion from the inside. The middle class has almost vanished. Fled from the fear of kidnappings and revenge killings. This mess won’t be cleaned up for years. And it is this administrations fault.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:05 pmZZ~
March 19th, 2007 at 4:05 pmIt’s right there in the corner of the park. Wait, that’s a statue of Bush’s tiny erection, never mind.
This guy agrees that things were better under Saddam.
Breaking on Fox: Iraqis hanging Saddam Deputy at dawn.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:06 pm#14, we do, and we will. Have patience, we have a little matter of a completely corrupt AG to take care of first…
March 19th, 2007 at 4:07 pmwhat a bunch of whiney babies!
Comment by Real RedNeck
I doubt your even human. You advocate blowing the crap out of a country then call them crybabies when they don’t see things your inane way? Why haven’t you, cowboy, gotten on your horse and skeedaddled on over there?
Remember you now own this welfare nation. But I suppose you will cry when your tax dollars are spent on it.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:07 pmWell, I for one am glad I am not a dumb a$$ red neck that utters such stupid sh!t. You STFU first.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:07 pmReal Redneck also tells the sheep to quit whining as he sodomizes them
March 19th, 2007 at 4:08 pmThe trolls are worried about this thread. Hmmmm…..why? :D
March 19th, 2007 at 4:09 pmBreaking on Fox: Iraqis hanging Saddam Deputy at dawn.
Comment by Patrick1
Is it going to showcase the sectarian split within the government, like Saddam’s execution?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:10 pmSo, 26% of Iraqis (Sunnis) think things were better under Saddam.
We have the same problem here. 28% of Americans (NeoCons) think life is good under Bush.
Same problem, different countries.
The Sunnis like their dictator, just like you NeoCons like your dictator.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:10 pmDear Cherry Pickers - Your stats don’t square with the full surveys published in USA Today.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:11 pmLucy, that bs opinion poll was taken from Iraqis who don’t live in that country.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:11 pmidiot.
Cons: you’re wasting keystrokes. Hillbilly has already cut and run.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:12 pmWhen will the statue of Bush be ready?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:12 pmReal Redneck, “Wahh, Wahhh, the Iraqis are taking all my hard earned tax dollars, it’s a crime, wahh wahh!!”
Iraqis, “Shut up you country western tittybaby, you wanted this”
March 19th, 2007 at 4:13 pmWhy haven’t you, cowboy, gotten on your horse and skeedaddled on over there?
Hell no, I’m not going over there. A) it’s crazy dangerous and 2) I’m too old, 33.
It’s time you youngin’s to stop sippng your starbucks and head over there. You think you can do it better, than go ahead. Whats your big plan for success?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:14 pmMe too, Kadhim, Me too…
March 19th, 2007 at 4:14 pmYour stats don’t square with the full surveys published in USA Today.
Comment by valiant venus
I thought you guys didn’t care about polls. At least that what you said before the midterms. Singing a different tune now that you’re in the minority? Who’d a thunk it?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:15 pmReal Redneck = corn fed, Bush worshipping, bible thumping, inbreeder …just a short list of traits shared by this ignorant SOB and company …ain’t life grand?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI don’t think Americans would be too happy either if we were occupied by a foreign nation who was trying to steal our natural resources out from under us.
But its different in Iraq. They’re just ungrateful.
Proud to be American is fading to a glimmer.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:17 pmHell no, I’m not going over there. A) it’s crazy dangerous and 2) I’m too old, 33.
The cutoff age is 42 I believe. You still have plenty of time to prove how big and bad you real rednecks are. Besides you could go to work for Blackwater USA and not have to join the US forces.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:17 pmReal RedNeck, you have time, yet. I know a 58 yr. old mechanic who was contacted to see if he wanted to re-enlist.
Now, put your horse where that stupid hat is & git your ass over there!
March 19th, 2007 at 4:17 pmIf you haven’t read it yet, please read Christopher Hitchen’s clinical defense of this war on Slate, truly a sad display.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:18 pmHell no, I’m not going over there. A) it’s crazy dangerous and 2) I’m too old, 33.
It’s time you youngin’s to stop sippng your starbucks and head over there. You think you can do it better, than go ahead. Whats your big plan for success?
Comment by Real RedNeck
Enlistment age is forty two. What would Audie Murphy say about your last comment? He’d be kicking your ass up and down the street if he heard your cowardly whine. Real Coward is more like it.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:18 pmWhats your big plan for success?
Comment by Real RedNeck
Sending big bad sheep sodomizing real rednecks over to Iraq and watch them cry.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:19 pmHell no, I’m not going over there. A) it’s crazy dangerous and 2) I’m too old, 33.
Comment by Real RedNeck
Whoopsie!
The Army is waiting with open arms! You’re not too old at all.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou Fuhrer will take you to the ripe old age of 42. Next excuse you sad sack of sh!t.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:19 pmI don’t think Americans would be too happy either if we were occupied by a foreign nation who was trying to steal our natural resources out from under us.
I guess we will find out if Hillary or Osama Obama become President.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:22 pm#29 RUCerious,
You are incorrect when you write that”opinion poll was taken from Iraqis who don’t live in that country.” The Times of London poll was of Iraqis living in Iraq:
Results are based on face-to-face interviews amongst a nationally representative sample of 5,019 adults aged 18 years + throughout Iraq. •The standard margin of error on the sample size is +1.4%
•The methodology uses multi-stage random probability sampling and covers every one of the eighteen governorates within Iraq.
•Interviews conducted 10th – 22nd February 2007.
Here are more details of the poll cited in The Guardian story:
http://www.opinion.co.uk/ Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=67
http://www.opinion.co.uk/Documents/FINALTables.pdf
http://www.opinion.co.uk/Documents/Charts.ppt#1
March 19th, 2007 at 4:22 pmIf you had any balls at all you’d impeach. Otherwise STFU!
Comment by Real RedNeck — March 19, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
And if we were in congress we would impeach. But we’re not asswipe. So why don’t you shut that shit hole you call your mouth.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmHell no, I’m not going over there. A) it’s crazy dangerous and 2) I’m too old, 33. -RR
So your plan is to keep your goat sucking self safe and becoming a 101st keyboard chickenhawk warrior?
Real Redneck, “Wahh Im too old to go! Wahh it’s crazy over there! Wahh my fingers hurt from typing all day about how brave I really am, wahhh wahhh”
March 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmComment by Exley
Yesterday you called that poll ambiguous.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:25 pmReal Redneck would be just that. Either shot or hanged by his fellow troops. I wouldn;’t want this slack jawed crack addict holding any type of weapon.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
You neocon junk brains picked the one poll that fits your ideals. The rest you just ignore. The way you ignore the facts piling up against your guys.
Why don’t you go bury your ugly heads with their putrid ideals in the sand where they can’t hurt anybody else.
Oh that’s right - if you nazis aren’t hurting anybody you’re just not having any fun.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:26 pmMedia manipulation on a grand scale
April 6th: Iraqi National Congress founder, Ahmed Chalabi is flown into the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah by the Pentagon. Chalabi, along with 700 fighters of his “Free Iraqi Forces” are airlifted aboard four massive C17 military transport planes. Chalabi and the INC are Washington favorites to head the new Iraqi government. A photograph is taken of Chalabi and members of his Free Iraqi Forces militia as they arrive in Nasiriyah.
April 9th: One of the “most memorable images of the war” is created when U.S. troops pull down the statue of Saddam Hussein in Fardus Square. Oddly enough… a photograph is taken of a man who bears an uncanny resemblance to one of Chalabi’s militia members… he is near Fardus Square to greet the Marines. How many members of the pro-American Free Iraqi Forces were in and around Fardus Square as the statue of Saddam came tumbling down?
The up close action video of the statue being destroyed is broadcast around the world as proof of a massive uprising. Still photos grabbed off of Reuters show a long-shot view of Fardus Square… it’s empty save for the U.S. Marines, the International Press, and a small handful of Iraqis. There are no more than 200 people in the square at best. The Marines have the square sealed off and guarded by tanks. A U.S. mechanized vehicle is used to pull the statue of Saddam from it’s base. The entire event is being hailed as an equivalent of the Berlin Wall falling… but even a quick glance of the long-shot photo shows something more akin to a carefully constructed media event tailored for the television cameras.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:27 pmLink?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:27 pmI have to agree with the trolls on this one. Other than the symbolic value, I don’t see the merit of a poll conducted on a single person.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pmComment by Crump’s Brother — March 19, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
It was hard to tell if you were talking about Iraqis or Americans. I guess it doesn’t matter since we’re both in the same boat.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pm#
If you haven’t read it yet, please read Christopher Hitchen’s clinical defense of this war on Slate, truly a sad display.
Comment by greg wirth — March 19, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Can we stuff Christopher Hitchens into straw filled, gasoline soaked George Bush suit and ship him to Baghdad?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pmAmazing: America marches in to a country, demolishes it for no good reason and expects it to be thankful, clean itself up and police the civil war it has incited.
I’d be more than a little annoyed myself.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:29 pm#49 And I maintain that it does yield ambiguous results. I also think today’s USA Today/ABC News poll yields ambiguous results. I think pretty much every poll coming out of Iraq these days is ambiguous. I am simply highlighting what The Guardian seemed to bury. And I wanted to let RUCerious know that the poll was indeed of people living in Iraq.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:30 pmReal Redneck, “Wahh, Wahhh, the Iraqis are taking all my hard earned tax dollars, it’s a crime, wahh wahh!!â€
Iraqis, “Shut up you country western tittybaby, you wanted thisâ€
Comment by CONs Love Terrorists — March 19, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
Right that’s what the ignorant asswipe says as he types from his double wide collecting his welfare check.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:33 pmYou tell him CLT. If he was a real redneck he’d be in Iraq not sitting here typing to us.
What’s he talking about? Doesn’t he like our brand of democracy and freedom? And hey- They owe us a debt of gratitude for the selfless way we have helped to make thier way of life a living hell just so they know how good, bad was. F*ed, ain’t it?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pmThink Progress blows smoke up your asses and all you can do is deflect. Bravo! Bravo!
Think Progress took the opinion of ONE PERSON and suppressed the MAJORITY OPINION of Iraqis.
Way to go! Shouldn’t this site be called Think Pravda though?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pmHere is the photographic evidence to go with null’s story.
You can’t make this sh!t up. Truth is stranger than fiction.
Strange in a very deadly kind of way.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:35 pmLucifer, you have a very apt name for a Bush loving troll.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:37 pmDo these polls include the 1 million of Iraqis who have left, and the other 500k - 1 million who are dead?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:40 pmIt would not surprise me if Lucifer and Real Redneck were one and the same
March 19th, 2007 at 4:40 pmDear Cherry Pickers - Your stats don’t square with the full surveys published in USA Today.
Comment by valiant venus
Dear dishonest troll, your stats do not match what you have posted here in the past, such as your lie about being a lawyer.
Face it, you have lost credibility and none here believes a word you say. Being caught in a lie tends to do that, unMighty Aphid
March 19th, 2007 at 4:41 pmSpudge…
Tell me, why do you think Think Progress appreciates the opinion of one Iraqi instead of the majority opinion of Iraqis? Can you explain this curious behavior?
Calling me a Bush-loving troll (yes, that’s how you write it if you are literate) doesn’t make the lies go away. Your whole world is a lie.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:41 pmell me, why do you think Think Progress appreciates the opinion of one Iraqi instead of the majority opinion of Iraqis? Can you explain this curious behavior? -Lucifer
Can you explain why one Iraq named Curveball was listened too?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:48 pmCan you exlain that curious behavior?
Your whole world is a lie.
Comment by Lucifer
Says a troll who worships a president that lies to the public daily…….
March 19th, 2007 at 4:48 pm“Tell me, why do you think Think Progress appreciates the opinion of one Iraqi instead of the majority opinion of Iraqis? Can you explain this curious behavior?
Calling me a Bush-loving troll (yes, that’s how you write it if you are literate) doesn’t make the lies go away. Your whole world is a lie.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 4:41 pm”
You mean like these FACTS????
http://rawstory.com/ news/ afp/ Iraqis_give_US_thumbs_down_four_yea_03192007.html
Iraqis give US thumbs down, four years after war: poll
Published: Monday March 19, 2007
Iraqis are increasingly pessimistic about the future, four years after ouster of Saddam Hussein — and fewer than one in five have faith in the US-led coalition, a poll showed Monday.
The survey, contrasting with a survey two years ago, indicated that barely a quarter — 26 percent — feel safe in their own neighbourhoods as the anniversary of the US-led invasion is marked this week.
Only 18 percent of those polled have confidence in the United States and the US-led coalition troops, while some 78 percent opposed the presence of coalition forces and 69 percent said it worsened the security situation.
Faith in the new Iraqi government was a little better, although hardly overwhelming: 53 percent were dissatisfied with the performance of the Iraqi government.
Looks like they are real happy with us!
March 19th, 2007 at 4:51 pmWhat happened to being “greeted as liberators, if you will”? Did the Iraqi’s miss that talking points memo from Roger Ailes?
March 19th, 2007 at 4:54 pmHey, trolls
March 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Calling me a Bush-loving troll (yes, that’s how you write it if you are literate) doesn’t make the lies go away. Your whole world is a lie.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
This is from the poll:
And
And
March 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pmComment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
Looks like the RNC has thrown another foot soldier into the fray at TP. We must be doing a good job of getting the truth out. Jake and Patrick, on the other hand, must not be pulling their full weight. Maybe they are just tired after a hard week of spinning and lying.
Go Lucifer! I’m gonna be with you the whole way. Just ask Jake.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:57 pm#70. Yo Remove..Dont confuse those bastards with facts. If Rush didn’t say it, it didn’t happen. (But its still fun shoving reality down their throats isn’t it?)
March 19th, 2007 at 4:58 pmWay to go! Shouldn’t this site be called Think Pravda though?
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
This kind of extreme projection is a sure sign of a Bush supplicant.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:59 pmLooks like they are real happy with us!
Comment by RemoveBush — March 19, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Two different polls released and it looks like they’re 180 degrees apart.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:00 pmA 33 year-young whiny baby.
EAT IT AGAIN you RedNeck disgrace.
How about you PATRICL? Do you have anything more then talk to support your favorite war. Too old, too young, maybe a wart on your ass, what’s your excuse for being just a cheerleader?
And Exley you prick.
They didn’t get a chance to to ask the millions who have already left the country or the 1 million Iraqi’s who have been killed how they enjoy the never ending occupation either.
How dumb do you have to be to get into this club.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:01 pmTell me, why do you think Think Progress appreciates the opinion of one Iraqi instead of the majority opinion of Iraqis? Can you explain this curious behavior?
Calling me a Bush-loving troll (yes, that’s how you write it if you are literate) doesn’t make the lies go away. Your whole world is a lie.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
26% of Iraqis (Sunnis) think things were better under Saddam?? I don’t remember TP saying it was a majority. The fact that 1% think life was better under Saddam than under US military control and a (sort-of) elected government is big news. According to Bush, we were liberators and the people of Iraq were going to have a party in our honor when we set foot in Bagdad. If 49% (not the majority of the population btw) think that life is better without Saddam and 26% think it’s worse, what about the other 25%?? They don’t know?? We’re a freedom-loving liberating army, why don’t they join the 49%??
Because Bush is an idiot. What those statistics mean is that ONLY 26% of the population thinks that life is better without Saddam. The rest either don’t know or think life is worse. THAT, all by itself is a sad indictment of the Bush strategy, no matter what other statistics are out there. The feeble attempts to turn that into something that somehow justifies what the US has been doing there is a desperation that is not worthy of real americans. If you can’t come up with something better, please stop embarassing yourselves.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:05 pmFrom the same article…
Some 86 percent of those questioned expressed concern about someone in their household being a victim of violence.
The poll found that basic necessities were lacking in Iraq, with 88 percent of respondents saying the availability of electricity was either “quite bad” or “very bad”.
About 69 percent gave similar responses for the availability of clean water, and 88 percent for the availability of driving or cooking fuel.
There was some solace for supporters of the foreign presence in Iraq, however, as 56 percent did not believe that Iraq was in a state of civil war, while 58 percent were in favour of maintaining a unified Iraq.
Nat, I trust a poll from an independant party then from someone connected with the mess, like the administration or Tony Blair.
Provide an Independant poll that shows otherwise!
March 19th, 2007 at 5:07 pmRe hey trolls, link didn’t get published
March 19th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
The world misses Saddam Hussein he was better than the americans by far , Even Saddam nationalised the Oil industry and did not steal Iraqs wealth
March 19th, 2007 at 5:08 pm26% of the population thinks that life is better without Saddam. The rest either don’t know or think life is worse.
woops.. that should read..:
26% of the population thinks that life is worse without Saddam. The rest either don’t know or think life is better.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:09 pmTwo different polls released and it looks like they’re 180 degrees apart.
Comment by Nat — March 19, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Just look at the credibility of the sources, and what basic common sense tells you: people with murdered and abducted family members aren’t particularly happy about it. Iraq is chaos. It is hell on earth there, and there is no sugarcoating it.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:09 pm#77 And that is my point, Nat. These polls out of Iraq are so varied as to be useless. Both sides can cite things in each of them that support their POV.
But I would note that even the USA Today/ABC Poll shows only a seven point difference between those who say life was better or worse under Saddam.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:13 pm(â€In the USA TODAY/ABC News Poll, Iraqis by 43%-36% said life was better than before the invasion.â€)
america to the rescue
March 19th, 2007 at 5:14 pmRe trolls, since TP won’t publish the link, go on over to WorldPublicOpinion.org and look at their surveys of the Iraqi populace. We are not wanted in Iraq, despite all of the neo-cons wishful thinking and thin lies. Its time to get out and far past time to remove Bush and all of his cronies and yes-men from office. After which they should all be tried in criminal courts for their multiple transgressions against humanity in general and the US un particular.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:16 pmWe have the tangent: Can you explain why one Iraq named Curveball was listened too?
We have the projection: Says a troll who worships a president that lies to the public daily…….
We have the dust-up: You mean like these FACTS????
We have the FOX News cliché: What happened to being “greeted as liberators, if you will� Did the Iraqi’s miss that talking points memo from Roger Ailes?
We have the bait and switch: This is from the poll:
We have the RNC cliché: Looks like the RNC has thrown another foot soldier into the fray at TP.
We have the pretender: 26% of Iraqis (Sunnis) think things were better under Saddam?? I don’t remember TP saying it was a majority. The fact that 1% think life was better under Saddam than under US military control and a (sort-of) elected government is big news.
Not a single person yet has dared answer why Think Progress ignored the prevailing public opinion in Iraq to go with the opinion they wanted to present.
Stop the deflections. Stop the projections. Stop the strawmen. Stop the feigned outrage.
Deal with the fact that Think Progress lies to you on a daily basis.
Deal with the fact that the majority of Iraqis do not agree with your view of their own country.
Deal with reality and stop being a bunch of cowards hiding behind a dishonest enterprise.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:17 pmJust look at the credibility of the sources, and what basic common sense tells you: people with murdered and abducted family members aren’t particularly happy about it. Iraq is chaos. It is hell on earth there, and there is no sugarcoating it.
Comment by VerbalKint — March 19, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
1 in 4 murdered; 1 in 4 kidnapped; 1 in 3 has fled but yet the poll respondents to the ORB poll say Iraq is not in a civil war.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:18 pm“Deal with the fact that the majority of Iraqis do not agree with your view of their own country.
Deal with reality and stop being a bunch of cowards hiding behind a dishonest enterprise.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 5:17 pm”
Provide the EVIDENCE!!!!!
So far I have not seen any EVIDENCE to support YOUR claim!
Where is the proof? Show the polls that say that more than 50% are happy we are there and that they support the US! Show me the polls that say that they condem Iraqis that attack or bomb US troops!
So far all I have seen are polls that show the opposite to what you are stating…… YOU HAVE YET TO PROVIDE ANY PROOF!
Provide your evidence, and stop with this crap!
March 19th, 2007 at 5:23 pm#82
BS! He kept it for himself. Did you ever get a look at those multiple lavish palaces that were in pristine condition while the rest of the country was in the dump?
March 19th, 2007 at 5:25 pm(â€In the USA TODAY/ABC News Poll, Iraqis by 43%-36% said life was better than before the invasion.â€)
Comment by Exley — March 19, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
43 percent say life is better, 36 percent say life is worse and I would assume that the other 21 percent think life is the same.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:27 pmBS! He kept it for himself. Did you ever get a look at those multiple lavish palaces that were in pristine condition while the rest of the country was in the dump?
Comment by Tracy — March 19, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Post some pictures.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:30 pmAnyone watching CNN? Mayor of SLT calling for Bush’s impeachment.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:31 pmSorry, SLC… Salt lake City
March 19th, 2007 at 5:32 pm#94…Rockey Anderson is the real “America’s Mayor” because he speaks the truth from his heart. Unlike the Republic Party’s “america’s mayor” thrice divorced Rudy who speaks from the Republic Party talking points. Remember that sick bastard Rudy at the 2004 Republic Party convention where he all but pulled Bush’s zipper down and inhaled when he said that on 9/11 when he heard about the attack on the WTC “My first thought was - thank god George Bush is President.” What a sanctimonious sack of Cheney.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:39 pm[…] will be stuck with this one: “I really regret bringing down the statue,â€said Kadhim al-Jubouri, an Iraqi weightlifter who was enlisted to help bring down the statute in […]
March 19th, 2007 at 5:39 pmYo Repugnican trolls….check these data
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070319/ ap_on_go_ot/ iraq_poll
March 19th, 2007 at 5:43 pmAll I remember about Rudy G was that everyone in NYC hated him until 911.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:45 pmFrom #97’s link. Interesting:
‘About four in five Iraqis oppose the presence of U.S. troops but only a third want those U.S. troops to leave Iraq immediately.’
March 19th, 2007 at 5:49 pmMore disinformation from CBS, the newest RNC propaganda outlet: http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2007/ 02/ 16/ 60minutes/ main2486679.shtml
Didn’t I tell you to stop with the strawmen and the tangents? The polls show, and have always shown, that Iraqis feel that the invasion and removal of Saddam Hussein has been worth it, even taking all the hardships into account.
The majority of Iraqis feel that they are better off now than under Saddam, this has been revealed in poll after poll after poll.
Of course the Iraqis want us to leave. We want to leave too! Unfortunately, both sides understand that we cannot leave yet due to the security problems.
I know it’s hard to believe, but sometimes you have to do what is necessary and not what you want. I guess in this day and age there are too many spoiled brats who don’t understand the concept.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:49 pmAnyone watching CNN? Mayor of SLT calling for Bush’s impeachment.
Wow. How brave. How original. Any word on when he’s going to figure out how to follow his city’s emergency planning? Mr. Nagin left a thousand people to drown in St. Louis, while hundreds of buses stood unused. If he were brave, he’d impeach himself for such dereliction of duty.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:52 pm#93
http://www.shadowsoftikrit.com/preview.html
http://federalvoice.dscc.dla.mil/ federalvoice/ 040211/ arcwater.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorsnyder/64105919/
March 19th, 2007 at 5:52 pm“Didn’t I tell you to stop with the strawmen and the tangents? The polls show, and have always shown, that Iraqis feel that the invasion and removal of Saddam Hussein has been worth it, even taking all the hardships into account.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 5:49 pm”
YET, you have failed to provide ANY POLL DATA!!! Provide some damn data!
Show me the data!!!! Stop with this crap and provide data! Not OPINION, but FACT and DATA!
One or two Iraqis stating things are better don’t mean JAKE, I mean JACK!
Show me the DATA!
Show me the DATA!
Show me the DATA!
Show me the DATA!
March 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pmThe majority of Iraqis feel that they are better off now than under Saddam, this has been revealed in poll after poll after poll.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
This is a lie.
March 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pm#102
Those do not even compare to the Larger than Vatican Embasy that we have built! And you wonder why the Iraqis beleive that we are never leaving……
Because we are not! Who builds a 2 billion dollar embassy and then leaves?
March 19th, 2007 at 5:58 pmComment by Tracy — March 19, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
I know how Baghdad looks or use to look. I wanted you to post some pictures of the rest of Iraq.
March 19th, 2007 at 6:00 pmNagin….St Louis….Huh?
March 19th, 2007 at 6:06 pmWTF is SLT? Thought you meant STL, as in St. Louis. In any case, if it’s not STL, just shave off the last part of what I said. ;)
March 19th, 2007 at 6:18 pmHey Lucifer,
Go fu*k yourself (that’s how you write it if you don’t give a flying fu*k about some dumb a$$ troll on a blog pretending to be the grammar police)
March 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pmNat…
It’s a lie? No, it’s not. Go to the Brookings Institution web site and check out the Iraq Index. Check every single poll taken in Iraq since the invasion, by various polling entities. Every one of them shows most Iraqis stating that the war was worth it, that they are better off, etc, etc. It is what it is. Stating it’s a lie doesn’t make it one.
Even polling data posted by Think Progress just recently shows that only around 10% of Iraqis say that their life is worse now than under Saddam.
Grow up. The Iraqi people do not agree with you, be man enough to acknowledge it and move on. Unlike you, they are used to a tougher life and do not take things for granted like you spoiled brats sitting on your iMacs at Starbucks drinking lattes and having mommy pay your college fees. Just because their life sucks compared to yours doesn’t mean that it wasn’t even worse before.
Get a friggin clue.
March 19th, 2007 at 7:19 pmNat…
It’s a lie? No, it’s not.
Even the ORB poll doesn’t have a majority so what are you talking about.
Unlike you, they are used to a tougher life and do not take things for granted like you spoiled brats sitting on your iMacs at Starbucks drinking lattes and having mommy pay your college fees.
Comment by Lucifer — March 19, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
The elitists are in the republican party and your president is the biggest elitist of all. I wish I could “[sit] on [my iMac] at Starbucks drinking lattes and having mommy pay your college fees.”
March 19th, 2007 at 7:35 pm#105
You aren’t suggesting that the new U.S. Embassy is going to be a single monolithic structure are you? I sure hope not.
The Republican Palace compound measures 1.7 square miles in area. That’s about 1,850 acres. The U.S. Embassy compound will cover about 104 acres. Are you kidding?! Not even close! LOL!
http://www.globalsecurity.org/ military/ world/ iraq/ republican-cc.htm
March 19th, 2007 at 7:47 pm#106
http://www.transnational.org/ Art/ photoseries/ iraq/ basra-city.html
http://www.travel-images.com/iraq.html
March 19th, 2007 at 8:04 pm“It’s not getting better at all. People are poor and the prices are going higher and higher.â€
Just like America!
March 19th, 2007 at 10:06 pmKadhim al-Jubouri TOOK Saddam FOR GRANITE—AND NOW HE KNOWS—-BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, YOU MAY GET IT!!!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 11:18 pm#112, #113 Tracy, what about the other 106 military bases in Iraq? Especially the 14 “permanent” bases? You’re an idiot!
March 20th, 2007 at 2:34 amThink Progress took the opinion of ONE PERSON and suppressed the MAJORITY OPINION of Iraqis.
Yes, uh huh, now with Saddam dead, and the people who killed him quite OBVIOUSLY and visciously in control of the goverment, how many iraqi’s do you think answered that question honestly. the fact 1/3 of the populace was both willing and able to admit that life was better with a dead dictator in control, and less than half claimed otherwise is very telling. crunch the numbers….shia are 60 percent of the country… crunching the numbers, youve got every sunni, plus at the very least 15 percent of the shia saying life is not better than it was under saddam…. and when did we get in the business of caring whether dictators opress thier people anyway? why is iraqi opression suddently worth all this blood and treasure compared to other opressed peoples?
March 20th, 2007 at 8:33 am#117
Considering that the Republican Place compound is 1.7 square miles and the fact that you could put 18 U.S. Embassys (the 104 acre one) in side the RP footprint, I would say all of those other 16 “permanent” bases and the other 106 “camps” the U.S. operates out of could fit easily as well. When you get a clue as to what you are talking about in terms of site sizes as far as bases are concerned, then you let me know.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:59 pmPee Female Pee Pee Hole
I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view
April 10th, 2008 at 1:52 pm