Justice Department documents released.
Justice Department documents released.
ABC News reports:
New e-mails released this evening by the Justice Department reveal the depth of White House involvement in the discussions to fire eight U.S. attorneys last year. The thousands of pages of e-mails suggest the White House was involved in the plan from the beginning.
The e-mails detail conversations about attorneys targeted for dismissal. There are no e-mails from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who reportedly does not use e-mail, though the Justice Department says messages show some indication that Gonzales’ former chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson, kept the attorney general apprised.
The House Judiciary Committee website is likely to have some of the emails in PDF form available tonight.
UPDATE: U.S. News reports: “One day after Justice Department Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty testified on Capitol Hill about the reasons eight U.S. attorneys were summarily fired, a Justice Department spokesman…sent an E-mail to Gonzales’ chief of staff, Kyle Sampson, and spokeswoman Tasia Scolinos saying Gonzales was unhappy with McNulty’s testimony regarding why U.S. attorney Bud Cummins of Arkansas had been let go. That E-mail is what is causing the most concern at the Justice Department.” During his hearing, McNulty had agreed that Cummins was fired even though “he had done nothing wrong” and was simply making way for Rove protege Tim Griffin.
UPDATE II: Justice Dept. official: “You have no idea how bad it is here.“
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Time to subpoena Turdblossom!
Looks like we’re gonna hit the Gonzo, Cheney, Rove resignation trifecta!
March 19th, 2007 at 8:50 pmYES!!!
Let the resignations and impeachment begin.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:51 pmThe smoking gun!!!
Is it possible to have a 17 minute gap in an email thread?
March 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pmNobody on our team has done anything illegal.
Comment by RNC Spokesman Jake
March 19th, 2007 at 8:59 pmWhat’s wrong Alberto doesn’t use e-mail because he can’t write.
-GSD
March 19th, 2007 at 9:05 pmGorn; it was an 18 minute gap.
Zooey; how was your local protest Saturday? In DC the Bushbots were out in droves-thousands of them. Shouting ’shame on you’ and ‘traitors’ at us. The only thing missing on their side of the street was the brown shirts, jackboots, and swastikas.
Due to bus-lag, I’m out of here.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:06 pmFor the latest news, hearings, legal filings, emails and other essential documents as they become available, see:
March 19th, 2007 at 9:07 pm“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
“What’s wrong Alberto doesn’t use e-mail because he can’t write.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — March 19, 2007 @ 9:05 pm”
No…. Because it can be used against him… Like Bush does not use email…..
It leaves a trail and it does not lie, when it is presented to a court of law!!
March 19th, 2007 at 9:08 pmSorry I missed you Uncle Ho. It was pretty damned lame, but we don’t have a lot of people. It was more fun watching the wrecking ball knock the shit out of the abandoned grain elevator. :)
I’m going to a protest in Spokane on Saturday. It’s bound to have a little more activity.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI predict this thread will hit 300 by Tuesday morning, rove will have his black hearted troll’s all worked up into a frenzie and they will arrive in..3-2-1…Blessings
March 19th, 2007 at 9:14 pmWhen are the White House and Dep’t of Justice going to release the emails that show they aren’t liars and traitors?
March 19th, 2007 at 9:14 pmAlberto, behaving like a cheesy-bag mob boss who turns on the radio to drown out wire taps.
Nice to know these cheese-holes probably have doubles like Saddam too.
Although Alberto Gonzales’ double would be the size of a Hummel.
That’s our Attorney General the guy they call Seedy Gonzales.
-GSD
March 19th, 2007 at 9:26 pmI predict this thread will hit 300 by Tuesday morning, rove will have his black hearted troll’s all worked up into a frenzie and they will arrive in..3-2-1…Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Odds on what time Tuesday AM?? haha
March 19th, 2007 at 9:29 pmCummins was fired even though “he had done nothing wrong†and was simply making way for Rove protege Tim Griffin
I have less problem accepting this purely political move, in comparison with the other seven firings which smell of obstruction and manipulation of justice.
Isn’t true oversight grand!?
March 19th, 2007 at 9:32 pmWell, if Cummins was let go to make room for a political croney, that, at least, is not obstructing justice.
So, from what we know about this particular firing, it doesn’t look like any law was broken.
It merely follows the Bush Doctrine of putting Party Loyalty as the most important qualification for any job in the Government. The net result is that the Government is the Party, and the Party is the Government.
Republicans might as well run on that campaign slogan, for it speaks the truth about their view of America.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:34 pmPLC, this version of “oversight” is merely entertainment. There is no true oversight, as there is no impeachment hearings.
Minor players are thrown off the bus, but the people in power remain untouched, as do those behind the scenes running the whole show.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:36 pmGonzo and McNulty are toast. They will remain only as long as it takes to persuade others to take their places. Then it will be on to the confirmation hearing which will be interesting.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:41 pmMeanwhile, although the cast of characters on the perimeter are being picked off one by one, the central cast of Bush, Cheney and Rove remain safe and secure in the inner circle, protected by their toadies.
“There are no e-mails from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who reportedly does not use e-mail,”
A very telling revelation…
…A “public” servant…
…in a position that requires the UTMOST transparency…
…in order to maintain credibility…
…for a department that represents one of the pillars of DEMOCRACY…
…and is entrusted with safeguarding this country’s “rule of law”…
…its CHIEF officer…
…doesn’t use email, in THIS day and age…
…ONLY someone who is computer illiterate or…
…with something to hide…
…doesn’t use email…
March 19th, 2007 at 9:41 pmYou all realize, of course, that NONE of this would be investigated, NOTHING would have been done on any scandal, it would be business as usual if the Dems had not won control of the House in November. It gave us oversight for the first time in six years over the most corrupt and secretive administration in history. If oversight was ever needed before, it is desperately needed on this administration.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:45 pmThey had 6 years to operate with impunity, making their own rules, changing laws, and otherwise acting as a monarchy - no one was able to stand up and say “wait a minute - we have to look at this.”
Until now. Hopefully it is not too late.
#18 bp
March 19th, 2007 at 9:48 pmBush has said he doesn’t use Emails either. (on the advice of his consigliere?) Evidence. Evidence. Evidence.
They learned from the tapes of Johnson and Nixon; better to have no permanent record and instead build a strong army of toadies instead who will defend you and protect you.
I’m going to a protest in Spokane on Saturday. It’s bound to have a little more activity.
Comment by Zooey
Spokane? More activity? Where the heck are you, Walla Walla?
March 19th, 2007 at 9:58 pmThe Bush administration is so crooked they don’t even know when they have done something wrong. They probably believed it was okay to fire US attorneys who didn’t follow the party line. These people are pathetic.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI hear Spokane has like 100,000 people or somthing.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:09 pmGonzo didn’t use e-mail, eh? As bad an AG as he has been, at least he knows that “everything is discoverable.”
March 19th, 2007 at 10:11 pmIn other BREAKING NEWS the White House was in on the veto of federal research monies for embryonic stem-cell research (in excess of that announced by President in 2003) FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!!!!!
Also, the sky is blue.
We now return to your regularly-scheduled pogrom.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:18 pmUPDATE II: Justice Dept. official: “You have no idea how bad it is here.“
Heh.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:22 pmSpokane? More activity? Where the heck are you, Walla Walla?
Comment by gummitch
I’m in the booming metropolis of Moscow, Idaho. :)
March 19th, 2007 at 10:23 pmI hear Spokane has like 100,000 people or somthing.
Comment by ForTruth
201,600, to be exact. 443,800 in the metro area.
Disgustingly huge. :P
March 19th, 2007 at 10:25 pmwhat is happenin all?!?
hey Zooey!
which one of the three congressional hearing alberto gonzalez is going to face this week is the most politically damaging, in your opinion?
:)
March 19th, 2007 at 10:28 pmOh whiteyfresh, do I have to pick just one? :D
March 19th, 2007 at 10:39 pmComment by Marie #20
…not to worry Marie…
…Bushiva gave enough campaign speeches, SOTU addresses…
…and White House propaganda (press) conferences…
…to nail his dumb a*s to dungeon of history…
…I just want them ALL to go to JAIL!
…and take back our money from them…
March 19th, 2007 at 10:40 pm[…] Read more […]
March 19th, 2007 at 10:42 pmi was curious:whatever happened to Jeff Gannon?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:43 pm“…ONLY someone who is computer illiterate or…
…with something to hide…
…doesn’t use email…
Comment by big papa — March 19, 2007 @ 9:41 pm”
Whats that line that all the Republicans like to use????
“if your not a criminal then you have nothing to worry about”
So what are they, Gonzo and Bush, so worried about?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:43 pmWe now return to your regularly-scheduled pogrom.
Comment by Jake
Freudian slip of the day. jake thinks he’s being funny, but he’s really showing his true nature and thinks that Jews deserved to be systematically murdered. typical nazi republican.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:44 pmi wish TP would post faster..
March 19th, 2007 at 10:44 pm:(
Spokane has Gonzaga University with the best NCAA basketball team to get beat in the first round this year. Damn Rethug referees anyway! In 1972 (So my reference is old, so am I) Spokane had a population of 170,000 and Gonzaga had an enrolment of 99,000. Who the hell worked in that town?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI was using “pogrom” as in you liberals here at TP are out for conservative blood, no matter if we are innocent or not. What’s next, breaking all the windows in our BMW’s? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_night
March 19th, 2007 at 10:47 pmwhat’s up w/ that guy? I’m friendly to everyone. thee are two types of people in this world people who are my friends, and people who aren’t. But noone isn’t unless they give me a reason. I can’t figure him out. I don’t talk smack to him, and he’s ok to me. i find him amusing to say the most, but i can still be cordial with him. why does everyone get so upset?(btw, ‘taking a jake’ is on e of the funniest damn things i’ve heard in a very long time..
March 19th, 2007 at 10:48 pmHow about the next time a Democrat takes the oath of office, we impeach her for that?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:49 pmNew Documents are now available for viewing on the U.S. House Judiciary’s website.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:50 pmForget about Gonzales and concentrate on getting Bush and Cheney impeached or forced to resign.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:50 pmNo! Gonzaga wasn’t named after the AG. His name is Gonegaga.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:51 pmHow’s it hangin, whiteyfresh?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:51 pmsorry jake, but that IS realy funny to me.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI went to your link but i don’t get the connection. How does holding people accountable who theaten our safety as a democracy and a nation relate to that link? If you think about it the real provokers of treasonous acts are the ones who need to be held accountable for. BTW, see my above Q to Zooey. Which hearing are you most looking forward to?
legaleze:
I’m not the second batch right now. Did you see anything in the first one except Drug policy and Immigration Enforcement problems with Carol Lam?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:54 pmWhat’s next, breaking all the windows in our BMW’s?
Comment by Jake #37
…NOPE…
…fire bombing your trailers…
March 19th, 2007 at 10:55 pmGone-n-gargla?
nahh, it’s too much..
March 19th, 2007 at 10:55 pmWho the hell worked in that town?
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
I claim no knowledge. I’ve only lived here for 14 years.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:55 pmI thought Gonzaga was a cheese. :D
Batch 1-2 is more of the same. Nothing incriminating so far . . .
March 19th, 2007 at 10:57 pmHey Jake! How come you left the last thread before you answered my question. Again: Why is it that you claim King George the Dumb is right in locking Arabs in torture camps while FDR was wrong in relocating the Japanese (your words: “locking the japs in intenment (sic) camps?” Don’t cut and run again and claim prostate problems as you did last time.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:58 pmjake: i believe it’s pronounded ‘legalIze’
[>)
March 19th, 2007 at 11:00 pmdang it, now that really DOES sound like a cheese to me…
March 19th, 2007 at 11:01 pmwhiteyfresh:
Since I disagree that the AG “theaten[s] our safety as a democracy and a nation” I consider the issue linked. After you guys are done with the conservatives (at least those that live in trailer parks), who’s next on your list? As for which hearing I am worried about, I don’t worry (see Jesus’s discourse on the sparrow in the Book of Matthew).
March 19th, 2007 at 11:01 pmGone-n-gargla?
nahh, it’s too much..
Comment by whiteyfresh
Settle, whitey!
GONE-ZA-GA
It’s a lovely cheese.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:01 pmClyde the Ripper:
Sorry I missed your question — I have a life outside of TP — and I never claimed prostate problems. I’m pretty sure I at least capitalized the word “Japs” too, but I guess the fact that they were shipped to camp(S) by the hundreds of thousands and all turned out to be innocent is qualitatively and quantitatively different, don’t you think?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:05 pmIn other BREAKING NEWS the White House was in on the veto of federal research monies for embryonic stem-cell research (in excess of that announced by President in 2003) FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!!!!!
Also, the sky is blue.
We now return to your regularly-scheduled pogrom.
Comment by Jake
Blind obedience is no replacement for the truth. It’s a charming quality in a pet, but pathetic in a human being.
You can type whatever rubbish you want. It won’t stop the inevitable and will only make you look like an even greater fool than you already are.
Why do you keep spouting off this garbage that only falls on deaf ears. This incessant parotting of idiotic GOP talking points may carry some sway with the 30% inbred and moronic Bush loyalists. But most people here see right through that crap. You aren’t gonna gain nay converts.
Go find somewhere else to waste your time.
You are becoming tedious predictable and very, VERY boring. We can already tell what your gonna say before you even post it. So what’s the point? Are you a masochist or something?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:05 pmHas anyone else read Batch 1-2 yet? These U.S. Attorneys sound like a$$holes.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:06 pmYou guys got it all wrong: Goudabaga is a vegetable not a cheese.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:06 pmI’m in the booming metropolis of Moscow, Idaho. :)
Comment by Zooey
Ah, Mosko, not Moskow. I used to know a pair of brothers from Moscow who moved to Seattle in the late 70s. One of them is a big deal computer graphics guy these days, writes books, does lectures, the whole thing. He was just another long-haired hippie artist when I met him.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:07 pmO.K., JPV, let’s see if you are a liar — what am I going to say next?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:07 pmPDFs are up on the DOJ site…
http://www.judiciary.house.gov/
DIG IN FOLKS!
March 19th, 2007 at 11:08 pmGorgonzola is a blue-veined Italian cheese, made from unskimmed cow’s milk. It can be buttery or firm, crumbly and quite salty, with a ‘bite’ from its blue veining.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:11 pm#56 JPV
Don’t be too hard on Jake. He is having his usual senior moment. KKKarl promised him a 10% increase in his Social Security and a waiver on his $30/month Prescription Drug Premium but KKK reneged and Jake ran out of ExLax so he is grumpy.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:12 pmO.K., JPV, let’s see if you are a liar — what am I going to say next?
Comment by Jake
Yeah, I’m a liar. Happy know?
Maybe you’ll have more respect for me know since all the people that you seem to admire are liars also.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:12 pmThese documents need to be sifted through with a fine-toothed comb. Then Sens. Leahy, Feinstein, Schumer, et al., need to chew on this issue like a dog with a tasty bone. The Bush administration is evil, undiluted shameless evil and patriotic Americans should not stop until they are exposed and expunged from our soceity.
Both Bush and Gonzales state that they never use email. Verrrrry suspicious. Very!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 11:12 pmJake:
Why do you hate America?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:13 pmGorgonzola is a blue-veined Italian cheese, made from unskimmed cow’s milk. It can be buttery or firm, crumbly and quite salty, with a ‘bite’ from its blue veining.
Comment by James
Yep, that’s it. Gonzaga cheese. What it has to do with basketball, I’ll never know. :D
March 19th, 2007 at 11:15 pmComment by Jake — March 19, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
I guess you can see now how male Democrats felt before. After all when you people impeached Bill Clinton for lying about a blow job can you imagine how scary that was for other Democrat males. I mean most men, democrats anyway, have gotten one at some time in their lives. And most would prefer not to be asked about it in front of their wives. So when you guys asked Clinton in front of the world and his family well men were clenching everywhere.
So I’ll tell you what you guys always tell us.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:17 pmStop whining, buck up and take it like a man.
Maybe Gonzales can defend Delay–if they let Gonzales keep his law license. One slimy bastard deserves another. And I still can’t believe Meet the Press would give discredited and disgraced GOP hacks like Perle and Delay any air time. You had to like Andrews reminding Perle about his pipe dream of a “George W. Bush Blvd.” in Baghdad.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:18 pmOH, so are you playing the “first they came for the (insert group here), and I did nothing” bit? I think that makes your postion a little more clear to me. So, since Jesus hears every sparrow that hits the ground, he’s heard over 3,200 sparrows hit the ground in Iraq?
Moscow, Idaho? how exotic….
March 19th, 2007 at 11:18 pmor was it God?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:29 pm“The Cheese Shop”
Greek Feta?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:31 pmAh, not as such.
Er, Gorgonzola?
No.
Parmesan?
No.
Mozzarella?
No.
Pippo Crème?
No.
Danish Fimboe?
No.
Czech sheep’s milk?
No.
Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?.
Not today, sir, no.
(pause)
Ah, how about Cheddar?
Well, we don’t get much call for it around here, sir.
Not much call- It’s the single most popular cheese in the world!
Not round here, sir.
And what is the most popular cheese round here?
Ilchester, sir.
Is it.
Oh yes, sir. It’s staggeringly popular in this manor, squire.
Is it?.
It’s our number-one best seller, sir.
I see. Ah, Ilchester, eh?
Right, sir.
All right. Okay. Have you got any, he asked expecting the answer no?
I’ll have a look, sir ….. nnnnnnooooooooo.
It’s not much of a cheese shop, is it?
Finest in the district, sir.
Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.
Well, it’s so clean, sir.
It’s certainly uncontaminated by cheese.
MP????
March 19th, 2007 at 11:34 pmColbert just ripped Rahm Emmanuel a new one for telling congressmen to not go on Colbert Report. It was pretty dang funny…..
Damn, Zooey, you and your cheese stole the damn thread again! And just when I had Jake on the ropes.
Manana!
March 19th, 2007 at 11:35 pmi cant figure out how to put my song up on myspace!!(soon to be shameless plug)
March 19th, 2007 at 11:39 pm#73 About time somebody stood up to that DINO and his DLC crew.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:39 pmSorry Clyde! I didn’t do the Monty Python thing, I promise! Although I wish I had…
March 19th, 2007 at 11:46 pmYou know, folks, when jake joind the thread here and his first few comments went unanswered, I got a glimpse of the desperation with which he’d react if no one EVER answered him.
It would be fun to watch. Let’s try it, shall we? Aftr all, it’s not like he’s going to contribute anythig reasonable to the discussion, and it’s not as if he’d ever acknowledge that some liberal had a good point, so what’s the purpose to responding? Next time, let’s just let him dump his load of stale wingnut wash and ignore him. Who’s up for it?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:46 pmOk, so far I found this little tidbit from Kyle Sampson in one of the pdfs…
March 19th, 2007 at 11:48 pmJake is a self-loathing victim of ad-hominem attacks.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:52 pmJake is on a collision course with reality. He will never know what hit him, though.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:54 pm“You know, folks, when jake joind the thread here and his first few comments went unanswered, I got a glimpse of the desperation with which he’d react if no one EVER answered him.
It would be fun to watch. Let’s try it, shall we? Aftr all, it’s not like he’s going to contribute anythig reasonable to the discussion, and it’s not as if he’d ever acknowledge that some liberal had a good point, so what’s the purpose to responding? Next time, let’s just let him dump his load of stale wingnut wash and ignore him. Who’s up for it?”
OK - I think this is a great idea. We should extend this to the other trolls that visit, too.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:55 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeOaTpYl8mE
off topic, funny but true video.
starring michael moore
March 19th, 2007 at 11:56 pmDocument dump, yeah, cool, dumped documents.
Why would they dump evidence that could be used against them?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:57 pm#81 Actually, I hear they allow internet connections in asylums (I know, non-PC term) because it helps those like Jake develope social skills.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:57 pmJake is a self-loathing victim of ad-hominem attacks.
Comment by ForTruth
And he makes jokes about rape.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pm#82 Nah, there has to be a little fun in the echo chamber or we will all go nuts.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pmRepublican credo: ” Party first, Money second, screw everytthing else.”
March 20th, 2007 at 12:02 amMaybe Jake jokes about jerks as he jerks his gerkin, he knows his mamma’s lurkin’, but he keeps jerkin’
March 20th, 2007 at 12:03 am#89 I tried saying that 10 times fast and I am telling you…I ended up sounding like Jake.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:06 amnight all. i gotta get some rest…
March 20th, 2007 at 12:07 amNeither Gonzo nor Chimpy use email. Clever bastards, they’re not leaving any evidence.
Chimpy does use the Googles on the Internets. Its a series of tubes.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:10 amAnother interesting email that I found in the “dump”…
March 20th, 2007 at 12:14 amLittle GONZO was a CLOWN
March 20th, 2007 at 12:19 amLIttle GONZO began to FROWN
When he found to his DISMAY
That NO ONE with him wanted to PLAY
Because his backside was BROWN
With the SHIT he thought was CLAY
But smelt with the VILE DECAY
Of CORRUPTION, GRAFT and POLITICAL SIN
That his DAMNED LITTLE SOUL was STEEPED IN
So Little GONZO stood on the shelf
And SUMMARILY HANGED HIMSELF!
Committing POLITICAL SUICIDE to try and SAVE
The DESPICABLE CREEPS of Bushland CAVE
But ALAS, ALACK, the HUE and CRY
Raised by Little GONZO’s RITUAL DIE
Was the EVENTUAL CAUSE of the TOTAL DESTRUCTION
Of Bushland’s EVIL DENIZENS through NECK-CONSTRICTION!!!!!
Gonna stay up late and do some reading, Congress? Better get those subpoenas in order for some serious committee chit-chat.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:26 am#45 Jake
I’m not the second batch right now. Did you see anything in the first one except Drug policy and Immigration Enforcement problems with Carol Lam?
It’s more than interesting that a sudden rash of complaints about Lam’s prosecution of criminal aliens comes flooding in from Republican congressmen less than two weeks after federal agents execute search warrants on the home of Kyle “Dusty” Foggo.
It’s downright hilarious that “Duke” Cunningham had the nerve to sign a letter complaining about Lam just one month before pleading guilty to bribery charges and resigning from Congress.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:28 amHere are the latest DOJ email/document dumps and all the latest news, hearings, legal filings, emails and other essential documents for the Bush DOJ prosecutor firings.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:37 amMore…
March 20th, 2007 at 12:37 amThose are some damning emails, JPV. Thanks.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:50 amMore to come…
March 20th, 2007 at 12:54 amMarch 20th, 2007 at 1:03 am
I will be posting the rest of my finding here…
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002809.php
For those that are interested in reading the e-mails more so than talking about the trolls that is.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:08 am#102 Already know about the emails. They should damn the Bush administration (if the Dems keep their spine). In the meantime, the trolls are fun.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:10 amI will be posting the rest of my finding here…— JVP
Awsome!! thanks J
March 20th, 2007 at 1:20 amSmoking Gun anyone?
March 20th, 2007 at 1:22 amGuys, go to http://www.buzzflash.com for your news. You will find all of the emails. Buzzflash is my savior (and no, I have no connection to them other than being a fan :) )
March 20th, 2007 at 1:29 amNew e-mails released this evening by the Justice Department reveal the depth of White House involvement in the discussions to fire eight U.S. attorneys last year. The thousands of pages of e-mails suggest the White House was involved in the plan from the beginning.
Why quote this at length as though it is news ?
That is how attorneys get replaced, properly or inproperly, at the behest of the White House.
You could quote someone saying “emails reveal Pentagon was involved in the invasion of Iraq” to the same effect. Well yeah, that’s how that works and always has.
I would recommend your readers stop paying attention to your website and go reag Greenwald at Salon if they want to get an informed coverage of what is going on and what are meaningful developments.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:56 amI have had this idea floating around in my head lately. I think we ought to start being American citizens first. That’s what we are, first. Then we are Dems or Repubs. I would like to see a Party of American Citizens. How could the right point their fingers at the American Citizen Party. I think there is a lot of like minded people who would go along with this. Just some thing to think about. I don’t know if this is the right thread to say this, I’m sorry if it isn’t, but I just needed to get the idea out there. Thanks.
March 20th, 2007 at 2:13 amLast year just before the November elections, a major story broke that dominated the pre-election airwaves and the front pages of newspapers: MARK FOLEY and the House page scandal plus news that House Republicans had covered up his activities for years.
Rove and the White House counterattacked…primarily to replace negative Republican news with negative Democratic news.
The U.S. Attorneys were the vehicle employed to execute this plan. Thus, the pressure on New Mexico’s U.S. Attorney to speed up the release of grand jury indictments against Democrats, which the U.S. Attorney (to his credit) refused to do. So, he was fired essentially for political insubordination.
This order to indict Democrats MUST have gone out to all the U.S. Attorneys. Many complied. Some refused, or didn’t have any real cases to prosecute and weren’t interested in fabricating cases against Democrats (voter fraud?). Some were already involved in cases against Republicans, but settled for lesser charges instead of going after more serious charges (e.g. Patrick Fitzgerald settling for Libby and lesser charges instead of going for the conspirators in the Bush administration behind the outing of a covert CIA operative).
Anyway, I’ll be interested to see if there’s any mention in the emails of Mark Foley and needing to do some damage control before the elections last fall. Or, will there be a suspicious gap in the emails released that cover the two-month period before the elections?
March 20th, 2007 at 2:26 am…at the American Citizen Party.
Comment by Judy Reuter
Could we still impeach Bush,or would he be the Pres. of that party too?
March 20th, 2007 at 2:29 amI’ve been Spring cleaning my house - and it looks like it’s happening in Washington too!
March 20th, 2007 at 2:47 amIf this has half the effect on our Democracy that my dust-busting has had on my allergies, we will all be really gratified.
PS: Sorry Zooey, no take on the protest march - my bad back took precedence on Sunday, But there are still vigils this week so i hope to make one.
Goodnight!
I’ve been looking at the documents on the House Judicial Committee’s website. What?….. The DOJ thinks that releasing transcripts of hearings constititues compliance? I can just hear the staff saying, “We’ll fix them, we’ll give them pages and pages of stuff that is of no use at all — screw ‘em.”
And this is our tax dollars at work? And they have the nerve to question OUR patriotism? OUR committment to the Constitution?
What the hell has happened to our country?
March 20th, 2007 at 3:18 amhttp://www.commondreams.org/views07/0319-26.htm
March 20th, 2007 at 3:27 amThat is how attorneys get replaced, properly or inproperly, at the behest of the White House. - Kilo
Hey Kilo, this talking point was debunked repeatedly on the first day that it was brought up. It’s not that it’s outright false, it’s just that it’s simplistic, misleading and irrelevant. Very Rovian.
Right wingnuts have roughly the same MO as the mouth breathers that want to teach biblical creation in the science classroom. Their pseudo-scientific nonsense has been debunked over and over again, but they keep bringing it up as if god didn’t give them eyes to see, ears to listen, and a brain to think. The same arguments demolished on the talk.origins usenet group 15-20 years ago come up again and again anyway, and apparently will continue to do so until the End of Days.
There are people who actually believe the earth is flat, too (see http://www.theflatearthsociety.org). The explanation from their FAQ states: “Well, it looks that way up close. ” Brilliant.
Tell you what, how about all you 30-percenters get together and start yourselves a different country, and get the hell out of ours? I vote that we give you Texas. Take Darth and his pet chimp with you.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:24 amWho has the numbers of prosecutions of Republicans by the Fired 8? I have heard that 80% of all political prosecutions by the US Attorneys were of Democrats and 20% were of Republicans.
Of those 20%, there must be some numbers of which prosecutors initiated them. I know Carol Lam took down Duke Cunningham. That is one case. Surely, there are statistics on which prosecutors initiated which cases and what the party affiliations were. I would like to know where to find that information.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:51 amHey Kilo, this talking point was debunked repeatedly on the first day that it was brought up.
That is not anyone’s talking point. It is just how it works. The same way that emails showing deep involvement of the Pentagon in the Iraq war would not be anyone’s “talking point” or able to be “debunked” as it is not a claim. It is just how shit works.
It’s not that it’s outright false, it’s just that it’s simplistic, misleading and irrelevant. Very Rovian.
And yet when I ask why ThinkProgress has bothered printing this simplistic and irrelevant point — that the White House was deeply involved in White House business –which takes up half of the quote, you apparently have a problem with this.
Perhaps tomorrow we can find out that the White House was deeply involved in this White House business at The White House!
Seriously.
Right wingnuts have roughly the same MO as the mouth breathers that want to teach biblical creation in the science classroom.
Do they ? Does rightwingnut MO usually include referring readers to gay liberal bloggers who have produced the most damaging exposes of Bush administration abuse of law to date, for a more intelligent analysis of what actual impropriety has gone on ?
Or are you just really crap at reading and interpreting things you see ?
There are people who actually believe the earth is flat, too (see http://www.theflatearthsociety.org). The explanation from their FAQ states: “Well, it looks that way up close. †Brilliant.Comment by gorn — March 20, 2007 @ 4:24 am
And yet people operating with that amount of intellect can still manage to achieve what you have failed to here. Read and recognise what is being discussed and respond appropriately.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:59 amYou are less than brilliant. In fact, you aren’t even ordinary.
and the lesson for all of us….
YOU CAN KILL FOREIGN PEOPLE
YOU CAN POLLUTE THE WATER
YOU CAN RUIN THE ECONOMY
but don’t you ever… ever… ever…
PISS OFF A LAWYER
(and you wonder why the rethugicans shoot them in the face) power to los angeles 1150 AM progressive radio
March 20th, 2007 at 5:43 amThat is how attorneys get replaced, properly or inproperly, at the behest of the White House. -Kilo
Hey Kilo, this talking point was debunked repeatedly on the first day that it was brought up. Comment by gorn — March 20, 2007 @ 4:24 am
That is not a talking point. It is how prosecutors get replaced. The Pentagon being involved in the Iraq war is also not a talking point. It is how wars work.
In this post, TP has informed us that the White House was deeply involved in White House business at the White House. You apparently think this is a long debunked claim.
It’s not that it’s outright false, it’s just that it’s simplistic, misleading and irrelevant. Very Rovian.
Yet when I write a post dedicated solely to pointing out that this is simplistic, misleading and irrelevant, and therefore unworthy of taking up half of that quoted article you apparently have a problem with this.
Right wingnuts have roughly the same MO as the mouth breathers that want to teach biblical creation in the science classroom.
This right-winger MO I’ve diplayed is apparently the old classic: Referring people to homosexual liberal bloggers who write far more insightful and damaging accounts of White House impropriety than was originally offered.
That old right-winger favourite. Yeah.
There are people who actually believe the earth is flat, too (see http://www.theflatearthsociety.org). The explanation from their FAQ states: “Well, it looks that way up close. †Brilliant.
Yes, and yet they can still display abilities such as reading, comprehension and in-context communication, which you have failed to achieve here.
Tell you what, how about all you 30-percenters get together and start yourselves a different country, and get the hell out of ours? I vote that we give you Texas. Take Darth and his pet chimp with you.
Yes a Thinkprogress reader has recommended I get the hell out of his country if I want to refer readers to Glenn Greenwald on the topic of law.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:43 amYou guys must be proud with the kind of community you’re fostering here. Real promising.
That is how attorneys get replaced, properly or inproperly, at the behest of the White House. -Kilo
Hey Kilo, this talking point was debunked repeatedly on the first day that it was brought up. Comment by gorn — March 20, 2007 @ 4:24 am
That is not a talking point. It is how prosecutors get replaced. The Pentagon being involved in the Iraq war is also not a talking point. It is how wars work.
In this post, TP has informed us that the White House was deeply involved in White House business at the White House. You apparently think this is a long debunked claim.
It’s not that it’s outright false, it’s just that it’s simplistic, misleading and irrelevant. Very Rovian.
Yet when I write a post dedicated solely to pointing out that this is simplistic, misleading and irrelevant, and therefore unworthy of taking up half of that quoted article you apparently have a problem with this.
Right wingnuts have roughly the same MO as the mouth breathers that want to teach biblical creation in the science classroom.
This right-winger MO I’ve diplayed is apparently the old classic: Referring people to homosexual liberal bloggers who write far more insightful and damaging accounts of White House impropriety than was originally offered.
That old right-winger favourite. Yeah.
There are people who actually believe the earth is flat, too (see http://www.theflatearthsociety.org). The explanation from their FAQ states: “Well, it looks that way up close. †Brilliant.
Yes, and yet they can still display abilities such as reading, comprehension and in-context communication, which you have failed to achieve here.
Tell you what, how about all you 30-percenters get together and start yourselves a different country, and get the hell out of ours? I vote that we give you Texas. Take Darth and his pet chimp with you.
Yes a Thinkprogress reader has recommended I get the hell out of his country if I want to refer readers to Glenn Greenwald on the topic of law.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:45 amYou guys must be proud with the kind of community you’re fostering here. Real promising.
That is how attorneys get replaced, properly or inproperly, at the behest of the White House. -Kilo
Hey Kilo, this talking point was debunked repeatedly on the first day that it was brought up. Comment by gorn — March 20, 2007 @ 4:24 am
That is not a talking point. It is how prosecutors get replaced. The Pentagon being involved in the Iraq war is also not a talking point. It is how wars work.
In this post, TP has informed us that the White House was deeply involved in White House business at the White House. You apparently think this is a long debunked claim.
It’s not that it’s outright false, it’s just that it’s simplistic, misleading and irrelevant. Very Rovian.
Yet when I write a post dedicated solely to pointing out that this is simplistic, misleading and irrelevant, and therefore unworthy of taking up half of that quoted article you apparently have a problem with this.
Right wingnuts have roughly the same MO as the mouth breathers that want to teach biblical creation in the science classroom.
This right-winger MO I’ve diplayed is apparently the old classic: Referring people to homosexual liberal bloggers who write far more insightful and damaging accounts of White House impropriety than was originally offered.
That old right-winger favourite. Yeah.
There are people who actually believe the earth is flat, too (see http://www.theflatearthsociety.org). The explanation from their FAQ states: “Well, it looks that way up close. †Brilliant.
Yes, and yet they can still display abilities such as reading, comprehension and in-context communication, which you have failed to achieve here.
Tell you what, how about all you 30-percenters get together and start yourselves a different country, and get the hell out of ours? I vote that we give you Texas. Take Darth and his pet chimp with you.
Yes a Thinkprogress reader has recommended I get the hell out of his country if I want to refer readers to Glenn Greenwald on the topic of law.
You guys must be proud with the kind of community you’re fostering here. Real promising.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:47 amThat is how attorneys get replaced, properly or inproperly, at the behest of the White House. -Kilo
Hey Kilo, this talking point was debunked repeatedly on the first day that it was brought up. Comment by gorn — March 20, 2007 @ 4:24 am
That is not a talking point. It is how prosecutors get replaced. The Pentagon being involved in the Iraq war is also not a talking point. It is how wars work.
In this post, TP has informed us that the White House was deeply involved in White House business at the White House. You apparently think this is a long debunked claim.
It’s not that it’s outright false, it’s just that it’s simplistic, misleading and irrelevant. Very Rovian.
Yet when I write a post dedicated solely to pointing out that this is simplistic, misleading and irrelevant, and therefore unworthy of taking up half of that quoted article you apparently have a problem with this.
Right wingnuts have roughly the same MO as the mouth breathers that want to teach biblical creation in the science classroom.
This right-winger MO I’ve diplayed is apparently the old classic: Referring people to homosexual liberal bloggers who write far more insightful and damaging accounts of White House impropriety than was originally offered.
That old right-winger favourite. Yeah.
There are people who actually believe the earth is flat, too (see http://www.theflatearthsociety.org). The explanation from their FAQ states: “Well, it looks that way up close. †Brilliant.
Yes, and yet they can still display abilities such as reading, comprehension and in-context communication, which you have failed to achieve here.
Tell you what, how about all you 30-percenters get together and start yourselves a different country, and get the hell out of ours? I vote that we give you Texas. Take Darth and his pet chimp with you.
Yes a Thinkprogress reader has recommended I get the hell out of his country if I want to refer readers to Glenn Greenwald on the topic of law.
You guys must be proud with the kind of community you’re fostering here. Real promising.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:53 amWTF? Does he just write little notes to everyone?
March 20th, 2007 at 7:38 amI guess he doesn’t want to leave any evidence behind?
# 37 said: I was using “pogrom†as in you liberals here at TP are out for conservative blood, no matter if we are innocent or not. What’s next, breaking all the windows in our BMW’s?
First of all, Democratic subpoena power is proving that the current GOP adminstration is a cess pool of corruption. There are no “innocents” in the White House.
Secondly, No. I am not going to break the windows on your BMWs . . . I am going to bust out the headlights.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:47 amGoonzales doesn’t use The Internets -or- The Google,
How convenient.
Fry his arse!
March 20th, 2007 at 8:44 amIn all future Republican White House’s only sign language will be allowed to communicate and it must be done in the dark.
March 20th, 2007 at 8:45 amTHis is how the White House, Justice Dept, CIA, and the Pentagon work together, sending our children, our soldiers to die, so they can reap billions.
It’s high time for a war crimes tribunal to be convened.
“Wilkes was accused of bribing Cunningham and Foggo, who as CIA executive director ran the agency’s daily operations, to get contracts for his companies. Wilkes was head of ADCS Inc., which initially converted documents from paper to digital formats for the military and expanded into other information technology services, and two smaller logistics and lobbying firms.
In his plea agreement, Cunningham acknowledged using his position on the defense appropriations subcommittee to get millions of dollars in federal contracts for ADCS.
Foggo, who at one time was the CIA’s deputy ethics officer, was charged with conspiracy and money laundering for failing to disclose lavish gifts, meals and trips from Wilkes.”
Democrats turn up heat on firing of U.S. attorney
March 20th, 2007 at 8:59 amThey allege Carol Lam was ousted in San Diego because she was investigating Republican politicians in Southern California.http://www.latimes.com/ news/ nationworld/ nation/ la-na-usattys19mar19,0,2790807.story?track=ntothtml
The Republican party has been an agent of subversion and treason throughout its history. It has cost Americans millions of lives and uncountable amounts of treasure. It and the rich, the Zionists, the Moonies, the Dixiecrats and numerous other components are guilty of high treason for their vicious undermining of our institutions.
They should all be in prison and under net surveillance for the rest of their lives.
March 20th, 2007 at 9:00 am#123
March 20th, 2007 at 9:02 amIsn’t the internet just a bunch of tubes?
Foggo was at one time the CIA’s deputy ethics officer
Of course he was.
March 20th, 2007 at 9:03 amOf COURSE Gonzo doesn’t use email, that would be evidence. You can’t “forget” or deny what was written in an email, like you can when one of your potential scape goats are reporting to you verbally.
One of the things that floors me is how one of the proposed replacements being offered by the Repuglicans in the White House is Michael Jerkoff. You know the head of the Homeland Insecurity Department… Ya there’s a good candidate, he’s done such a great job “protecting” our country and it’s citizens NOT…
March 20th, 2007 at 9:11 amSmoking Gun anyone?
Comment by JPV #105
If this is ALL so innocent JPV…
…why are the Repulsivescum on Capitol Hill…
…so READY to throw Abu Gonzo under the bus?
March 20th, 2007 at 9:12 amOT,
March 20th, 2007 at 9:20 amZooey,
Moscow, Idaho is a beautiful place.
My band once played the Blue Mt. Festival there to about 10,000 people. We had a great time, and a producer from Portland, OR. had us come over & spend 2 weeks in a studio recording our original songs.
Gosh, hadn’t thought of that gig in many years.
Sorry, folks…back to reality.
Comment by JPV #105
…WHY IS there…
…a bus?
March 20th, 2007 at 9:29 amGod, what a surrealist thread, with all the cheese amid :D
And, well, british cheeses haven’t been very renowned in the cheese’s history, and cheddar itself isn’t so particular at all, only by the orange coloration of some varieties. Most of the cheese varieties of Spain, France, Italy, Holland, Denmark and some other European varieties have better qualities. Trust me, I know. My father was in the food industry and I’ve tasted a good couple varieties :)
March 20th, 2007 at 9:38 amAhhh, the stench of “cesspools of corruption” in the morning!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:28 amRUC,
That’s the Gonzaga cheese. :D
March 20th, 2007 at 10:37 amIt has been widely accepted that it is the chimps choice to axe AGs no questions asked.I am amazed though that there is not one wingnut that will own up to the fact that there was a clause in the unpatriot act that allowed these weasels to appoint AGs without congressional confirmation.Too,the wingnuts never mention the fact that these AGs werelet go because they were getting to close to the truth about how corrupt the repugs really are.Must be nice to be able to just ignore the facts.Were you all schooled by Rush” i would’nt know a fact if it bit jumped up and bit me in the ass”Limpdick.Sheesh.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:36 pmIt’s not enough for kilo to be stupid once. He needs to do it over and over and over and over again. Definition of insanity?
March 20th, 2007 at 5:33 pmThe REASON Alberto VO5 Gonzales aka GONZO doesn’t use e-mails IS BECAUSE he DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO—-SIMPLE!!!!! GONZO is SO DUMB that when he goes to the local diner to eat, he asks the waitress for a SANITARY NAPKIN, then wonders why she ALWAYS LAUGHS OUT LOUD in his STUPID FACE!!!!! HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 9:41 pm