Lieberman: No Democratic Presidential Candidate Has ‘Strong And Muscular’ Foreign Policy
Lieberman: No Democratic Presidential Candidate Has ‘Strong And Muscular’ Foreign Policy
Today on MSNBC, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) declared that he is searching for a political party that is “very strong and muscular on foreign and defense policy.” Anchor Nora O’Donnell responded, “But, Senator, arguably there’s not one Democratic presidential candidate that is espousing that particular position, right?” Lieberman said, “So far, you’re right.” Watch it:
All of the current Democratic presidential candidates want to sharply reduce or eliminate the U.S. presence in Iraq. Even Republican candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and potential candidate Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) support pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq. That is strong and muscular — redeployment will refocus America’s security posture on combating global terrorist networks and the war in Afghanistan. It will restore our military and address the current readiness crisis. It will take away a prime rallying cry for extremists, shore up America’s image abroad, and free up billions of dollars for critical homeland security and domestic needs.
The problem is that Lieberman doesn’t want a strong foreign policy. He wants a belligerent one.
Transcript:
O’DONNELL: Senator, you have broken with your former party, the Democratic Party, specifically on the Iraq war. There have been questions.
Can you rule out that you may switch to the Republican Party?
LIEBERMAN: I wouldn’t rule it out, but it’s certainly not my intention. It’s not my desire. You know…
O’DONNELL: What would cause to you switch to the Republican Party?
LIEBERMAN: Well, I’m not going to set any conditions. But, you know, my real hope here is to stay and fight for the kind of Democratic Party I joined when John F. Kennedy was president — which was progressive on domestic policy and very strong and muscular on foreign and defense policy.
We’re at war here.
O’DONNELL: But, Senator, arguably there’s not one Democratic presidential candidate that is espousing that particular position, right?
LIEBERMAN: So far, you’re right. I mean, obviously, it’ll be more than Iraq. It’ll be: How do they feel about Iran and the rest of the threats that we face?
But look, the central challenge to our security in our time is from radical Islam; the people who attacked us on 9/11.
And to be as direct as I can be, Norah, in this question of who I will support for a president, I’m going to wait until both parties have their nominees and I’m going to support the candidate that I think is best for our country, regardless of party.
And, obviously, the positions that they take on the war on terrorism will be very important to me.
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Hey Joe,
Sorry that everyone isn’t suckling the teet of the Israeli empire
AIPAC sucks!
March 19th, 2007 at 8:32 pmJoe (AIPAC’s Boy) Lieberman is completely and utterly INSANE.
The only way we can be any “stronger and muscular on foreign and defense policy” is to nuke the whole entire Planet, which I’m sure would suit this Zionist pig, and all his corrupt/evil buddies just fine.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:34 pmif i had toilet paper with lieberman’s face on it, i wouldn’t defile my ass by using it.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:34 pmSorry that everyone isn’t suckling the teet of the Israeli empire
AIPAC sucks!
Comment by Deniz Yeter
Amen to that!
March 19th, 2007 at 8:34 pmIronic this comes from Lieberman, who is neither strong nor muscular.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:39 pmThis is right before Joe told Noron (a REAL expert on the issues) that he’s considering becoming a Repbulican or voting for a Republican Presidential cnadidate.
Way to go, CT! Six more years of Senator Drooopy threatening to take his ball and play elsewhere. Hope you’re all happy!
March 19th, 2007 at 8:39 pmStrong and muscular?
March 19th, 2007 at 8:39 pmLike the Nazis?
The Freudian implications in Liebermans’ choice of vocabulary open up some interesting speculations…
Joe (AIPAC Boy) Lieberman is INSANE.
The only way we could be “stronger and more muscular on foreign and defense policy” is to nuke the rest of the planet. Or, as far as him and his Zionist buddies are concerned, at least the whole Middle East.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:39 pmWhat a damned joke. This would be comedy gold if it wasn’t so unbearably tragic.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:40 pmLiebermann and muscular in the same sentence? Is this connectile disfunction?
March 19th, 2007 at 8:41 pmGlad to see ol’ Joe sticking to his principles of supporting any position as long as it is in the NeoCon’s best interest.
And speaking of ‘Strong and Muscular’, he couldn’t qualify in that camp without a LOT of testosterone injections (and a testicle implant).
March 19th, 2007 at 8:42 pmWhat about a lying-weasel foreign policy, Joe?
March 19th, 2007 at 8:43 pmCue Jake saying Lieberman is the only good Democrat in 3, 2, 1…
March 19th, 2007 at 8:44 pmSen. Joe Lieberman (Traitor-CT)
I fixed it for you, Nico. :)
March 19th, 2007 at 8:45 pmJoe, do us all a favor and STFU!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 8:46 pmJoe (AIPAC Boy) Lieberman is completely and utterly INSANE.
The only way we could be “stronger and more muscular on foreign and defense policy” is to nuke the rest of the planet. Or, as far as him and his buddies are concerned, at least the whole Middle East.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:47 pmHey, at least we all know what kind of man he likes….
March 19th, 2007 at 8:56 pmEh, Ben?
I think that’s why Joe won election. He’s just an honest Joe.
March 19th, 2007 at 8:56 pmwowzey wowzey… wooo… wooo.. that sand kinda sorta stings my eyezz…
March 19th, 2007 at 8:57 pmJoe, the erection you keep having for the Iraq war is not caused by strong muscles; it’s caused by a rush of blood to the braiin.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:00 pmLIEBERMAN: Well, I’m not going to set any conditions. But, you know, my real hope here is to stay and fight for the kind of Democratic Party I joined when John F. Kennedy was president — which was progressive on domestic policy and very strong and muscular on foreign and defense policy.
Like what? Trying to illegally pop a cap into Castro’s behind? Wallowing in Vietnam? Resolving the Cuban Missile Crisis with a quiet chit-chat and quid-pro-quo?
March 19th, 2007 at 9:00 pmGo fu*k yourself Lieberman.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:01 pmThe best thing we could do for our country, right after we impeach cheney/bush/ rice and all in the white house would be to give a one way ticket to lieberman and chertoff to Israel, deport them and revolk their passport’s…….Blessings
March 19th, 2007 at 9:07 pmIt is sad to hear his remarks…but it is sadder to know that he will be around for another six years…
March 19th, 2007 at 9:08 pmNorah & Joe — a match made in heaven.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:11 pmHey! You know who has a very strong and muscular name and both
voted for Kennedy, and is an independent?
Jake!
Naw… couldn’t be. We’ll they both bug the living bejesus out of me, anyhow.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:12 pmLieberman wants Iran smoked.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:23 pmFirst of all, thanks to the Republican Party for giving us Mr. Lieberman for another six years. He is repaying you in kind, deriding his former Party as having insufficiently muscular Christianity – a phrase that went out of style long before the Winds of Change blew away England’s empire. What next? Will Lieberman quote Baldwin? (He surely would disown Sidney and Beatrice.)
Mr. Lieberman hopes to avoid having to formally “cross the aisle”. So long as he doesn’t, both Republicans and Democrats must appear to court him. I hope, though, that Democrats tell Mr. Lieberman nothing they wouldn’t tell Darth Cheney. He’ll need his new sugar daddy: his days of being taken as a serious politician are over.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:34 pmExtreme-ists Don’t Need A Rallying Cry. They will always have one. Someone point out, at least since the creation of Israel proper 50+ years ago, when extremists didn’t have a rallying cry.
I know most of you on this site don’t like Lieberman, but I like his approach, though I understand some of his drawbacks. To me, the argument that if we just pull back extremists won’t have as much of a rally-ing cry or a recruiting instrument is something I’m not buying.
Since many extremists are tied to a brand of misguided religion or brought up in a slanted eduactional world, it is primarily that breeding ground that provides the rallying cries.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:37 pmThe Ingelesias scandal provides us a method of getting rid of Lieberman. Indict and Impeach Pete Domenichi and have the democratic govenor of New Mexico replace him with a Democrat. Then, tell Joe to go to the Dark Side where he belongs and to not let the door hit him on his way out. We really need to be rid of that traitor.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:37 pmJoe is disappointed that there isn’t another Democrat who is as Republican as he is.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:37 pmHe likes the influence he has in his present position by being able to suck up to the White House and yet maintain power over the Democratic Senate.
He is a man who puts his personal career, his own ego, and his selfishness over and above the people. He thinks like a Republican, ergo he is one.
Joe who? The last I knew there was no Democrat-turn coat-”independent”-Bush wannabe candidate running at all for poor little Joey. So, I guess poor little Joey will have to “muscle” his way into the spotlight with outlandish comments.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:38 pmIs there a senator recall in Connecticut?!!
March 19th, 2007 at 9:38 pmcode speak for:
“…Is willing to be used as an Israeli tool”…
…TRAITOR Joe…
…is an Israeli who*e…
…as EVERY REAL American patriot knows…
March 19th, 2007 at 9:43 pmjoe and nora- what a effing team! The she of the big lips. Just a high paid slut. Joe of the brown nose. Another slut! One more example of why the dems will not be able to build on its 06 victory!
March 19th, 2007 at 9:45 pmThe democratic party just doesn’t want to break out of the box!
They should tell joe to go eff himself. They should threaten him in every way possible (and don’t tell me that the dems don’t have the power to cause joe at least some boils.
The dems should refuse to deal with the slut. Lord knows that there are enough other choices in the nbc stable! Balls!!!!! that is what is needed.
Like Wille, from the Simpsons when he takes his shirt off. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, use the Google to look it up.
Now THAT’S strong and muscular.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:47 pmI said earlier, that Joe wants Iran smoked. It didn’t make it. How bout this one.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:49 pmJoe is an agent for a foreign government now. his rationale is always what is also stated as the “best interests” of the Israeli government.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:50 pmit is a law that agents of foreign governments list themselves as such. this senator is in violation of the laws of the land. the pretty word for it is double agent. joe likes war more than the Israeli’s do though. The fellow is able to justify anything if he profits and regains power. Perhaps he works first for the Likud?
joe is a part of a criminal conspiracy now, he is the legitimizer for the decider. he talks as though he is speaking some wisdom, but you will note all that he is in favor of is death to the infidels. sound familiar? he sounds just like the enemy he envisions. neither willing to work with each other, it is all or nothing with joe.
Everyone needs to call on their religous powers of prayer ask that some GOP Senators get their wish to meet their maker. Satan has a funny way of emberacing his children.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:50 pmWhen will people like Lieberman learn that brawn is often a sorry substitute for brains. Haven’t the past four years in Iraq proven that already?
Hello?
March 19th, 2007 at 9:51 pm#37 – Luke
It’s at #27. Smokin’
March 19th, 2007 at 9:57 pm““But, Senator, arguably there’s not one Democratic presidential candidate that is espousing that particular position, right?—
LOL, what!?! Conservatives live in thier own alternate reality that does not exist!
March 19th, 2007 at 10:00 pmRadical Islam is not the most important security threat to this country. And CT is stupid for voting for him. 6 years is too long for senators. He is a republican regardless if he “supports” the Democrats. Thing is he can send the Senate to the GOP, even though nothing can get accomplished because the GOP filibusters everything. Lieberman is going to die a Senator, unless CT wakes up in 6 long years.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:02 pmSpeaking of foreign policy, i.e., the war in Iraq, beware of the private military force that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush have paid billions of dollars to fight along side the active military in Iraq and elsewhere: BLACKWATER. Check it out: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/26/1559232
March 19th, 2007 at 10:03 pmlol go to hell Joe and take AIPAC with you!
March 19th, 2007 at 10:04 pmThis is why Gore didn’t win, God was protecting us from this nutcake.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAnd Mr. Lieberman thinks his former party is opposing the Republican Party of Ike? Mr. Eisenhower is closer to the party of John F. Kennedy than to today’s Authoritarian Republicans. He would have quickly put Mr. Cheney out touring every nation in Africa permanently before he let him have a tenth of the staff or power that Mr. Bush has “delegated” to Mr. Cheney. (As if the steer could delegate to the bull.)
What a farce is Mr. Lieberman. He is, however, a Senator we will have to reckon with for five and a half more years. Frankly, I’m more interested in whomever Pennsylvanian Democrats run to oppose Mr. (I didn’t know my chief counsel put “that” in the statute) Arlen Specter.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:20 pmSeeing as Joe is one of several independents, I can agree.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:32 pmWhat is the independents foreign policy Joe? Does Joe follow the Michael Savage view?
In addition to be strong and muscular, Joe the Putz is looking for a party that is cut, likes to be the top, and is willing to role play — Joe gets to be the cop but his ideal party can be the construction worker or the cowboy.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:37 pmLooks like LIE berman will be pretty much sitting by himself after election ‘08 see who is running
Exciting times ahead.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:40 pmDamnit folks, we should embrace a new party and form it.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:41 pmCaption Contest:
“Besides Iraq and Afghanistan have the best sh*t”
March 19th, 2007 at 10:42 pmHe looks high
March 19th, 2007 at 10:47 pmLieberman is a Israeli agent, and a traitor, so he must be forced out of the Senate and deported to Israel.
March 19th, 2007 at 10:53 pmGot AIPAC, Joe?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:59 pmWhat about Bill Richardson, Lieberman (you worthless traitor)?
March 19th, 2007 at 10:59 pmLieberman is a Israeli agent, and a traitor, so he must be forced out of the Senate and deported to Israel.
Comment by Jay Randal
How can I say this; Don’t hate. Hate will only work against you.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:00 pmI agree with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Israel should be wiped off the map. It’s a shame Hitler didn’t finish the job during the holocaust
March 19th, 2007 at 11:02 pmThe growing Israeli tapeworm continues to eat our lunch. Thanx, Joe “the Parisite” Lieberman.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:02 pmCompliments to ThinkProgress for deleting Jobe’s second posting, which was anti-Semitic. Will you please now remove Jamal’s hideous comments?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:06 pmJamal, I hope, truly hope that was a very bad joke from you. If not, may you ROT IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF S**T!!
March 19th, 2007 at 11:08 pmJay Randal,
March 19th, 2007 at 11:09 pmIsrael is the problem! I agree with you. Kill the Jews!
Jamal, your comments are offensive and racist. You and your brown shirt can p*** off.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:09 pmClean up on posts 58,60 and 63, TP.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:12 pmOops now my ‘clean up ‘ post is off as TP cleans up…
March 19th, 2007 at 11:13 pmJamal,
…you’re really over the top man…
…people like you are more dangerous than THEM…
…check yourself…
…before you wreck yourself…
March 19th, 2007 at 11:14 pmTerrytheTurtle,
March 19th, 2007 at 11:14 pmJay Randal is expressing the same views. Wipe Israel off and no more Al-Qaeda!
Not hatred by stating the obvious about Lieberman. He is a Israeli agent and saying so has nothing to do with him being Jewish.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:19 pmTerrytheTurtle,
Jay Randal is expressing the same views. Wipe Israel off and no more Al-Qaeda!
Comment by Jamal — March 19, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
wrong Adolph, he doesn’t think Joe Lieberman has US interests at heart. You, well you seem to me to be a murderous racist….. I don’t see the comparison. Disappear you fascist scumbag
March 19th, 2007 at 11:20 pmJamal > I am NOT advocating the destruction of Israel. I just said old Joe is a Israeli agent and should be deported to Israel since he works for them.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:21 pm#5 – It worked in our favor in Vermont a few years ago…Don’t knock jumping parties unless you’re against it in all cases.
#35
#39
#58
Jeeez… You know people troll this board to pick out the few comments to use as ‘real feeilngs’ of progressives. You’re not helping.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:22 pmTet Kalam Ingleezi?
I can see by the Comments, the bufoonery of zoomorphism is apparent and alive within the Far of left’s mindset, that echo, asking a shadow to dance, in a soundless room filled with the perpetual fog of ambiguity..
GO JOE, show em, the real mandate NOT of Neo-progressive meist relativism!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 11:30 pmay?
March 19th, 2007 at 11:32 pmJamal is a right wing troll. He is what they call a plant so Rush and O’Reilly can pick it off the site and call us anti-semetic. Delete the loser.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:35 pm‘Strong and Muscular’, if you are going to act like a pretentious ass you might want to spell buffoonery correctly. Putz.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:37 pmJay Randal,
March 19th, 2007 at 11:46 pmDestroy Israel and we’ll have no more problems with my Islamic brothers!
We’re on the same team, we just play different positions!
Jamal, shut up. That’s ludicrous.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:54 pmLieberman is actually the former monika lewinksy, after plastic surgery. It was all done by secret double agents.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:55 pmJamal, go back to Sunday school and study yourself some Jesus.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:01 amBan Jamal and delete all of his posts. He is a plant. If you don’t his posts will be read by Savage, Beck, et al. as examples of left-wing hatred of Jews.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:03 amHey Joe,
Sorry that everyone isn’t suckling the teet of the Israeli empire
AIPAC sucks!
Comment by Deniz Yeter — March 19, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Adolph Hitler had a strong and muscular foreign policy, and look what happened to him.
Comment by CaptainVideo — March 19, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
You people spend a lot of time comparing Republicans to Nazis, yet you all seem to hate Isreal. The Nazis hated and murdered Jews, remember.? Sounds like you aren’t so far from them after all.
“Joe (AIPAC Boy) Lieberman is completely and utterly INSANE.”
Is this your way of calling him Jew boy? I hope not, because that would be racist and intolerant.
T”he only way we could be “stronger and more muscular on foreign and defense policy†is to nuke the rest of the planet. Or, as far as him and his buddies are concerned, at least the whole Middle East.”
Comment by JPV — March 19, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
The statement wasn’t that we are not currently strong and muscular. It was that the Dem CANDIDATES are weak on foreign policy.
You people spend an inordinate amount of time suggesting that various people are gay. The most common estimate I’ve seen of the percentage of the population that is homosexual is around 2%-5%. But let’s assume, for the sake of argument, the Liberal estimate of 10%. That would make your suggestion that everybody with whom you disagree is gay, a gross exaggeration. Either that, or it has become a standard S-P knee-jerk response when a statement hits a little too close to home.
Radical Islam is not the most important security threat to this country.
Comment by James — March 19, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Whoops hit send too soon. I wanted to add that I don’t trust this Jew since he seems linked to Zionists back in Israel
Comment by Jobe — March 19, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Yeah radical Islam isn’t as much of a threat as Isreal, look at the World Trade center 1993 Oh wait, that was radical Islam. Look at the U.S.S. Cole, that was the Jews…oh, no, also radical Islam. Then 9/11, oops….radical Islam. Hmmm, maybe radical Islam IS a greater threat than Isreal. MAYBE I’ll have to rethink my mistaken position!
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke to AIPAC activists….”
“Senator Obama Praises U.S.-Israel Relationship, Calls Iran a Threat…”
Hillary Rodham Clinton has been a stalwart
supporter of a strong U.S.–Israel relationship during
her tenure in the United States Senate. She has been
a vocal defender of Israel’s right to build a security
fence and has been a tireless advocate of Magen
David Adom’s inclusion in the International Red
Cross and Red Crescent Societies. She was an early
co-sponsor of the recently-passed Palestinian Anti-
Terrorism Act, legislation that strengthens the ban
on direct aid and contact with the Hamas-run
Palestinian Authority.
Guess you all won’t be voting for Hillary or Barack, and you’ll have to turn on Nancy, as well.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:05 am(post may contain typos, don’t let it distract you from the issue at hand)
JPark,
March 20th, 2007 at 12:09 amJesus is just a Prophet. I worship only Allah!
#83 No you don’t, Mr. Robertson.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:12 amJoe’s still pissed cause when he ran no one voted for him.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:15 amIs this asswipe’s ambiguous way of saying he is switching to the Repub Party? He masqueraded as a Dem, ran as an Independent and now wants to parade as he really is and has been, all along- a neo-fascist bastard. What a puke and a putz, he is.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:23 amBLOW IT OUT YOUR A$$ Lieberman
March 20th, 2007 at 12:24 am#85 Eh, he would just say, in all of his Droopy Doggedness…”I”m so happy” and keep plugging away as the Republican whipping-boy.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:26 amI hope Ahmadinjad gets a nuk and wipes Israel off!
March 20th, 2007 at 12:32 amDeath to the Jews!
Free Palestine!
If TP uses censorship then TP is BIASED
March 20th, 2007 at 12:33 am#91 Well, Jobe, you might be an anti-semite if you wrote point 4 and 5. Why don’t you and Jamal get a room?
March 20th, 2007 at 12:37 am#88 TP cannot censor as it is not a government agency. You and I are here at there discretion.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:38 amWell! THe gloves are OFF now. The Clintons and Barack Obama ALL campaigned in a very energetic and timely manner for Joe-Mentum, and NOW he claims that neither has any foreign policy worth supporting! The blowback from this is going to be swift, or it had better be. If they can’t handle Joe, how will they deal with that sewer rat Rudy?
In 2008, Lieberman becomes irrelevant as more Senators will be joining the Dem ranks. As long is it isn’t a one or two vote lead, who the fuck needs him, let him switch.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:39 amAww, Jobe, you were deleted. :( And you made such great points (if you belonged to the Aryan Nation)
March 20th, 2007 at 12:39 am#87 I hope you get a nuk soon so your teething won’t be such a painful experience.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:43 am(Point 4) Trusting a nation that builds fences through others lands who is a Jewish nation is pretty tough. The whole situation is pathetic at best. The Great Wall and the Berlin Wall do the same thing as the Israel Security Fence. They break trust since they in no way can build it.
(Point 5) The Star of David found on the Israeli flag validates the truth that Israel and Jews are one in the same. This is not anti-Semite since it is also a fact.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:48 amJews are sons of Apes and Pigs!
March 20th, 2007 at 12:48 amThe Mahdi will destroy them and Palestine will be free!
In’shallah!
#93 Jobe, you cleaned it up some for this post. It might stick!!! Congrats!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 12:54 am#94 Jamal, we know you are fake or you would be out jihading. And we all have ancestors in common with apes.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:55 amwhat a twat-burger.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:56 am“And we all have ancestors in common with apes.”
That is blasphemy! We were created by Allah!
March 20th, 2007 at 12:56 amYou are speqwking the lies the Jin and Shaitan!
Allah will curse you!
Actually,
March 20th, 2007 at 12:59 amThe fate of Palestine (mainly poor people) seems more important then you’re ability to determine what group I support. I think Joe will point the US Army where Israel wants if given the chance. I don’t trust Christian politicians in the USA either but that is another thread.
#98 You have a lot in common with all fundies. Lack of critical thought. You are out of your depth here.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:04 am#99 Actually, I am sympathetic to the Palestinians. I am not a fan of the Israeli government. I also know better than to say I don’t trust Jews because I know a lot of Jews who do not support the occupation. I also believe that many of those who support the AIPAC are not doing it for Israel, they do it for oil. AIPAC is nothing. Follow the money.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:08 am#96 JPark that thing you just said, “And we all have ancestors in common with apes†means that God didn’t create us and that evolution is the truth. That means that there can be NO anti-Semite statements since all religions are false and contrived including Judaism! You posting that we are descendants of apes is the anti-Semite/anti-Christian topper of the day.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:10 am#102 Nice black and white world you live in. A lot of Christians believe in God AND evolution. Also, what does that mean if there is no god there can be no anti-semitism. Whether or not there is a god you can still hate Jews. LOL, believing in evolution is anti-semetic??? You really need to go to some kind of school…or rehabilitation…or something. You are lost.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:12 amJPark,
March 20th, 2007 at 1:15 amIsrael should be wipped off the map!
I’m glad you agree with this!
#109 Not sure how you construed my remarks as support for your craziness.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:17 amDeath to the Jews!
March 20th, 2007 at 1:22 amJPark, I don’t trust them and that is for self preservation. My view may be stereotypical but is not any less true for me. I don’t trust Jews since they handed Jesus to the Romans. There is the fence, the never ending war, land grabs and many other things that are my basis for not trusting the Jews. Lack of trust is synonymous with FEAR. I can post that in fact I do not trust them and in fact they need to be feared. That is hardly anti-Semite since nothing stated is untrue. I don’t hate Jews, I don’t trust them and that fear started when I saw the security fence.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:26 am#107 Those damn Jews handed Jesus to the Romans. Dude, it is the 21st century you anti-semite.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:31 am#106 After you, Mork.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:31 amAm I up too late? Me and a bunch of loonies?
March 20th, 2007 at 1:32 am#103 Darwinism precludes Creationism or the other way around. You cannot have both. Science has no foundation to base the claims of creationism. Religion makes it clear that Eve was created from Adam’s short rib (why it is short).
March 20th, 2007 at 1:32 am#111 Hey, fight with your fellow Christians about that, Jobe. I don’t care one way or the other what myths you do or do not believe in.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:33 am#11 So, Jobe, it is impossible for God to have created evolution? You don’t think much of your creator, do you?
March 20th, 2007 at 1:34 am#11 LOL, yes, that short rib is so OBVIOUS now, Jobe!!! How crazy do you have to be to believe the crap you believe?
March 20th, 2007 at 1:36 amA WEAK and WEEPY QUISLING LIKE LIE-berman ACCUSING THE DEMOCRATS OF NOT HAVING A “STRONG AND MUSCULAR” POLICY? NOW THAT’S THE HEIGHT OF RIDICULOUS IDIOCY!!!! THAT IS A LAUGHABLE AND ASININE THING FOR Joe TO SPOUT FROM HIS EXCREABLE LYING CHIMPya-LOVING MAW!!!!! WHAT DO YA EXPECT FROM A TURNCOAT LIKE Joe LIE-berman?
March 20th, 2007 at 1:38 am#117 JPark, theology makes it clear that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the seventh. From all points according to scriptures the Earth is only a few thousand years old, and we did not evolve. Later you go to the Museum of Natural History and see the skeletal remains of our ancestors that predate theology. Here theologists had a problem that was reasoned away with the invention of “intelligent design†but you know all of this. It is one or the other but cannot be both. Regardless of what you believe my fear and mistrust is real.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:51 amWhat is it about Lieberman that brings out the really crazy trolls?
March 20th, 2007 at 2:35 amAgree with most of the early posts on Jackass Joe, the man who wants to be known as the “Soul of the Senate.” Just like Pol Pot was the Conscience of Cambodia…
But more important, am I the only one who noticed Noron’s insane smirk when she eased him (of course with zero disagreement) into saying that no Dem Candidates have a muscular foreign policy? Go back and look at the clip! She’s grinning like a crazed Hiena who just got her talking points from Frank Luntz or Karl Rove. Unreal. Thanks “Liberal” media….
March 20th, 2007 at 2:39 amMr. Lieberman is no longer a serious politician; he is a paid retainer who seems to share Mr. Bush’s emotional dependence on Darth Cheney.
Mr. Lieberman’s version of centrist compromise is to have his former party do all the compromising, with him at the center of attention. Had he been a Democrat, he might have negotiated something in exchange for his concessions. Instead, he seemed happy just to make the concessions, which is not “compromise”, but appeasement.
March 20th, 2007 at 3:28 amI think the American people are searching for a foreign and defense policy that’s “very intelligent,” not “very strong and muscular.” Muscles don’t do you much good if you don’t have the brains to use them.
March 20th, 2007 at 3:30 amBush: ‘Iraq withdrawal may spark 9/11 repeat’
this should read what I ( Bush ) have done has made america more unsafe we cannot win the war on terror
March 20th, 2007 at 5:45 amBush: ‘Iraq withdrawal may spark 9/11 repeat’
this should read what I ( Bush ) have done has made america more unsafe we cannot win the war on terror
March 20th, 2007 at 5:47 amBush: ‘Iraq withdrawal may spark 9/11 repeat’
this should read what I ( Bush ) have done has made america more unsafe we cannot win the war on terror
March 20th, 2007 at 5:47 amBush: ‘Iraq withdrawal may spark 9/11 repeat’
this should read what I ( Bush ) have done has made america more unsafe we cannot win the war on terror
The Original American Foreign Policy
Noninterventionism is not isolationism. Nonintervention simply means America does not interfere militarily, financially, or covertly in the internal affairs of other nations. It does not mean that we isolate ourselves; on the contrary, our founders advocated open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.
Thomas Jefferson summed up the noninterventionist foreign policy position perfectly in his 1801 inaugural address: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none.” Washington similarly urged that we must, “Act for ourselves and not for others,” by forming an “American character wholly free of foreign attachments.”
March 20th, 2007 at 6:09 amImpeachment: ‘The Only Remedy’ South Korean News
By this time next year another thousand American families will have flag-draped caskets come home instead of sons, daughters, fathers, or mothers. The number of horrendously damaged souls doomed to be relegated to holding cardboard signs on our street corners over the next couple of decades goes up every day.
No amount of protesting, no amount of candle-wax burned, no amount of letter writing, calls or e-mails of complaint to our Representatives and Senators will end this war.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:11 amThe war was illegal from the start as a preemptive war of aggression banned by the Geneva Accords. The Bush administration clearly knew Iraq posed no imminent threat to the United States and yet ordered the attack and occupation anyway of the sovereign nation whose only real crime was having the audacity to live on top of one of the world’s largest oil fields.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:12 amooohhh musklz!
March 20th, 2007 at 7:26 amWe are not at war. We’re losing a nation building exercise because of all the people who support bush and lieberman but will not serve.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:29 am‘MUSCULAR….foreign policy’…easy said.
The fact is these politicians sending young Americans to the heart of Arabian and Moslem land ,to their death
trap so politicians like Lieberman who never seen one day of war,if not one
hour of what these young men see,yet he has the nerve to QUESTION opponents wisdom and to defend prolonging this war…so Neocons.AIPAC.PNAC goals can be achieved.
Lieberman wants this war to continue,even if it takes switching to another party to achieve such goals,although the majority of Americans do not see that prolonging this will war will achieve anything other than lives lost,and billions spent.
Lieberman wants even to open another front with Iran.
While the calls now is to be patient, ’staying the course’ remains the
objective that brought no tangible solutions YET.
The President said…yesterday: ” if we leave Iraq then another 9/11 will
happen”, but Iraq never was in any way part of 9/11 to begin with.
Both parties failed to set measurable steps since the war began 4 years ago. Until now,billions of dollars spent,lives lost..but nothing can be measured other than politicians’ words..like ‘insurgency in last throes’ said by Cheney 2 years ago…what is that supposed to mean?!!
Congress never questioned anything after they gave their vote for this war and even before the vote.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:46 amFor so many years..they have been funding this..without any question. Time to ask questions….people were patient..but it is time to begin measuring things AND check for results since lives are lost and billions of Treasury’s dollars spent on this war..time to ask questions.
Last time I looked (less than a minute ago), a “strong and muscular foreign policy” was an utter failure.
Jus’ sayin’
March 20th, 2007 at 8:49 amJoe will get it his way. He is a republican you know.
March 20th, 2007 at 8:50 amCan we change his party affiliation for him?
The people of Ct. should be embarassed.
Tim
March 20th, 2007 at 8:59 amI think Leibermann needs to consider Obama or HIllary. Both canidates support the Iraq war and support extending it. Furthermore, both canidate support attacking Iran if the terrorist leaders of Iran don’t stop enrichment. Lastly, Hillary at least has publicly gone on record stating she will keep at least 75,000 troops in Iraq indefinitely. This is very strong and muscular. These Dem conidates are about as strong a supporter of the Iraq war as you get. Hillary is just as much pro Iraq war as Bush at this point. It is very impressive indeed.
March 20th, 2007 at 9:33 am“The war was illegal from the start as a preemptive war of aggression banned by the Geneva Accords. ”
We haven’t given our sovereignty over to a one world government yet. I know that is the goal of many here, but not quite yet.
March 20th, 2007 at 9:33 am(with apologies to “Borat”):
Throw Joe down the well,
March 20th, 2007 at 9:49 amso our people can be free,
we must grab him by his horns,
then we’ll have a big party.
#134 “The war was illegal from the start as a preemptive war of aggression banned by the Geneva Accords. â€
We haven’t given our sovereignty over to a one world government yet. I know that is the goal of many here, but not quite yet.
Comment by CC — March 20, 2007 @ 9:33 am
The Geneva Accords are a series of treaties SIGNED BY THE USA, so the authority comes from the USA itself. So, you’re saying that you want your own laws, signed by your GOP, duped by your GOP?
And, before you bring the UN onboard too, remember that your country is in the the UN’s Security Council, what means that your country has VETO POWER, what means in turn that your country hasn’t any obbligation to let pass any resolution that doesn’t fit your interests. It looks as if your sovereignty is very healthy.
March 20th, 2007 at 9:54 amJoe has the libs trembling. Good for him. The libs abandoned him last year so why would he want to please them. The republicans would be happy to take in Joe with open arms. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 9:54 amHas Lieberman heard of Bill Richardson? It’s been many years since we had a president with such an extensive foreign policy background.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:00 amwe need a president whose foreign policy muscles ripple and twitch as you lovingly oil them…
revealing latent homosexual leanings, are we, Joe? not that there’s anything wrong with that…
March 20th, 2007 at 10:04 amBen- you bet. When I dare to crawl out from under the bed, I’m quaking in my boots. Scared shitless.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:07 amHey Joe,
Sorry that everyone isn’t suckling the teet of the Israeli empire
AIPAC sucks!
Comment by Deniz Yeter — March 19, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Right on Deniz!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:09 amThe Geneva Accords are a series of treaties SIGNED BY THE USA, so the authority comes from the USA itself. So, you’re saying that you want your own laws, signed by your GOP, duped by your GOP?
And, before you bring the UN onboard too, remember that your country is in the the UN’s Security Council, what means that your country has VETO POWER, what means in turn that your country hasn’t any obbligation to let pass any resolution that doesn’t fit your interests. It looks as if your sovereignty is very healthy.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — March 20, 2007 @ 9:54 am
A preemptive war of aggression isn’t quite the same thing as attacking a country that sponsors terrorism that results in attacks on the U.S.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:14 amThe Geneva Accords are a series of TREATIES, not laws. They don’t carry the same weight as laws and, yes, can and will be violated if circumstances change significantly enough that they threaten our security. 9/11, by the way was a rather large threat to our security. And, yeah I know Iraq didn’t carry out the attack. But we all know Hussein supported those who did. And you won’t hear me bringing in the U.N. We have veto power in an organization that is heavily populated with countries that hate the U.S. and our policies, take every opportunity to rail against us, yet never seem to extend that opposition so far as to refuse to take our money. And most of those countries have a long list of people waiting to get into the U.S. or entering the U.S. illegally.
we need a president whose foreign policy muscles ripple and twitch as you lovingly oil them…
revealing latent homosexual leanings, are we, Joe? not that there’s anything wrong with that…
Comment by Pete Bogs — March 20, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Again with the accusations of homosexuality. I think if I was gay, I might be a little upset that you people consistently call the people you don’t like, gay. Kind of sounds like your saying that there IS something wrong with that. That was a very common thing with boys in middle school I believe, calling someone a homosexual to insult them. And here you do it openly in the forum of the tolerant.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:21 amThere is a special place in the ninth circle of Hell for Sen. Joe Lieberman.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:27 amComment by CC — March 20, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Fox News propaganda. When you want to debate with facts, I will.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:31 amFox News propaganda. When you want to debate with facts, I will.
Comment by Evil Spaniard — March 20, 2007 @ 10:31 am
I wouldn’t know about that, we don”t get Fox channel. When you are ready to stop changing the subject because you don’t want to acknowledge the facts, let me know.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:42 amSo, does he think his pale, limp, whiney ass is MORE muscular?
March 20th, 2007 at 11:07 amThe Governator, now that is a strong and muscular candidate!
March 20th, 2007 at 11:27 amThen he (Lieberman) should go to the Dark Side, thus, war world three begins, and he (Lieberman) should personally lead the charge.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:41 amThe National Socialist Workers Party springs to mind.
If this country continues to fritter away our means, our men and our goodwill by policing or bullying the rest of the world then we will face the same unhappy end as the Soviet Union.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:41 amJoe needs a policy that he’s homoerotically attracted to, and he understands that’s what America is looking for in a candidate.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:46 amLet me see if I get the Righties take on this….
We should have a “paranoid drunk at the end of the bar” foreign policy, which allows us to go off half-cocked whenever the voices in our head tell us to, to preserve the “glory” of our monopoly on reason.
Jingoville. A nation so narcissistically in love with itself that no act of malice or madness can draw our gaze from our pretty reflection in the pond – what a batch of sickies we’ve become.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:57 amA preemptive war of aggression isn’t quite the same thing as attacking a country that sponsors terrorism that results in attacks on the U.S.
The second is just the former with a putative justification. Otherwise, no difference.
The Geneva Accords are a series of TREATIES, not laws. They don’t carry the same weight as laws and, yes, can and will be violated if circumstances change significantly enough that they threaten our security.
Really? “This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land” (emphasis mine). BZZZZTTT!! Wrong! But thanks for playing.
9/11, by the way was a rather large threat to our security. And, yeah I know Iraq didn’t carry out the attack. But we all know Hussein supported those who did.
Oh? The 9/11 Commission and the Senate Select Intelligence Committee don’t know it.
And you won’t hear me bringing in the U.N. We have veto power in an organization that is heavily populated with countries that hate the U.S. and our policies, take every opportunity to rail against us, yet never seem to extend that opposition so far as to refuse to take our money. And most of those countries have a long list of people waiting to get into the U.S. or entering the U.S. illegally.
“Rant rant yammer yammer….”
Troll, troll, troll, troll…
March 20th, 2007 at 11:58 amWe should have a “paranoid drunk at the end of the bar†foreign policy, which allows us to go off half-cocked whenever the voices in our head tell us to,
Comment by tom baker — March 20, 2007 @ 11:57 am
No, when terrorists fly airplanes into our buildings.
“The second is just the former with a putative justification. Otherwise, no difference.”
No difference if you refuse to believe that we have the right to protect our interests.
“Oh? The 9/11 Commission and the Senate Select Intelligence Committee don’t know it.”
They know, you know, we all know. Darn that Saddam for not giving us the records to prove specifically where and how much, like paying large sums to widows of sucide bombers.
“Rant rant yammer yammer….â€
Troll, troll, troll, troll…
Comment by J-rock — March 20, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Now there is an original response. Oh no wait, that’s the usual response by S-P’s to patriotism and/or the ineffectiveness of the U.N.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:46 pmI think if I hated my country as much as you all hate the U.S., I’d go somewhere more suited to my tastes. Might I suggest France or Spain? They are pacifist, pseudo-intellectuals like most of you here. If all of you left that hate the U.S., we would have plenty of room for all the people who want to come here and who would appreciate the ecomonic and individual freedom available here.
Mr. Lieberman no longer knows what a responsible foreign policy looks like. He is lost in his submission to the will of Mr. Cheney, who regards “policy” as a license to invent facts, twist others into unrecognizable shapes, and violate the law at his choosing. From his position behind the curtain, I might add, so that – sensibly – it’s the sock puppet in the Oval Office who takes the blame and, er, credit. Mr. Lieberman is just, oh, so anxious to pull a string of that puppet that he’s lost sight of the ones controlling his own arms and head.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:56 pmLieberman was finished, just as John McCain was finished, when he started hugging on the Monkeyboy Sheriff. Has the administration done anything right? Anything at all? This is a serious question.
March 20th, 2007 at 1:32 pm#159, CC
“No difference if you refuse to believe that we have the right to protect our interests.”
You didn’t prove that invasion was protecting our national interest. That’s why I said “putative justification”. But wait, I know you had more…
“They know, you know, we all know. Darn that Saddam for not giving us the records to prove specifically where and how much, like paying large sums to widows of sucide bombers.”
Hm. Still no proof here. Just you supposin’. But if you have better, please pass it on to the intelligence community. They’ve ADMITTED they couldn’t find any operative links. (Or other links, for that mattter.)
“Now there is an original response. Oh no wait, that’s the usual response by S-P’s to patriotism and/or the ineffectiveness of the U.N.
I think if I hated my country as much as you all hate the U.S., I’d go somewhere more suited to my tastes. Might I suggest France or Spain?”
You and your assumptions! I’ll claim “progressive” (my apologies for my belief that people should work together to make this country better), but I’m not actually secular. Unless that now means “believer in God who thinks that’s no excuse for a theocracy.” I also don’t hate this country. I hate what its government is doing to its constituents.
I care for neither France nor Spain. And I can stay right here and schmooze with pseudo-intellectuals such as your fine self.
BTW, noticed you dodging that whole US Constitution, Art VI, p2 business.
Have a nice day, a$$clown!
:-D
March 20th, 2007 at 2:01 pmGo ahead, Lieberschmuck, enjoy your morality-free power geab while you can, because when the Democrats win a large majority in the Senate in 2008, you are sooooooooo gone….
March 20th, 2007 at 2:33 pmOkay, i think we can all agree that Joe Lieberman needs a kick in the teeth. the man is a complete and total twit, whose chief contribution to the people of Conneticut was cutting the tax dollars they got back from the federal government down to 66 cents, from the 88 cents they were getting back before he got there.
In other words, those of you who are from CT and who voted for this guy, you aren’t terribly bright now are you?
Anyway, on JFK when he was feeling strong and muscular, hmm, lets look at the results shall we? The Vietnam war which is still remembered as a humiliating defeat for America. The Bay of Pigs, one of the biggest military screw-ups in history, often referenced as such in study guides the world over, and of course, the situation that led to the Cuban missile crisis. Yep, JFK feeling muscular really, really sets an example now doesn’t it?
March 20th, 2007 at 2:34 pmLieberman: No Democratic Presidential Candidate Has ‘Strong And Muscular’ Foreign Policy
That’s Liberman Talk for: No Democratic Candidate is an unmitigated warmongering slime ball like me!
Thank You Jesus!
March 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pmI have one question for this political tranvestite. Since he is said to an observant orthodox Jew, Does that mean he subscribes to the belief that the Israelites have a land grant from god to all of what is called Eretz Israel, including the west bank, and all the way to the Nile, large parts of Jordon, Lebanon, Iraq and Syria?
March 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pmHardy, Har, Har. Take your subpoenas and wipe your ass with it!
March 20th, 2007 at 4:02 pmFrom Nico’s Notes: “All of the current Democratic presidential candidates want to sharply reduce or eliminate the U.S. presence in Iraq. That is strong and muscular — …..”
You BET, Nico!! Terrorists world-wide are quaking in their sandals at the thought of the US “re-deploying” - especially since those same terrorists KNOW US troops are not “re-deploying” NEAR THEM any time soon!
Let me guess – you think Neville Chanberlain had the right approach with Hitler?
March 20th, 2007 at 5:14 pmUS troops in Iraq want out
For US troops from 9th Cavalry Regiment bumping around the dangerous streets of Baghdad in Humvees after dark on Monday, news that their deployment in Iraq could be extended fell like a hammer blow.
“We just want to get out of here as soon as possible,” said one vehicle commander in one of his few printable comments.
“It could be tempting to look at the challenges in Iraq and conclude our best option is to pack up and go home,” Bush said, four years to the day after he announced that American troops were fighting to depose Saddam Hussein.
But the lower ranks were in rebellious mood, especially after publication of a poll on Monday, commissioned by the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today, which showed only 18 percent of those questioned had confidence in US and coalition troops, while 78 percent opposed their presence……
March 20th, 2007 at 6:01 pmTobey, you Rocket Scientist – The soldiers would not be human if they didn’t want to come home. Ill bet not one soldier who stormed the beach at Normandy thought, “Wow, a day at the beach in France!” Those brave people who serve in our military and sacrifice for freedom will stay and do their jobs – so they can come home to their loved ones.
March 20th, 2007 at 8:27 pmAS IT WAS WRITTEN in THE BIBLE by PROPHETS O SO WISE, Joe
LIE-berman:
‘Judas Went Out And Hanged Himself….”
March 20th, 2007 at 9:31 pmGO THOU, LIE-berman, AND DO LIKEWISE!!!!!!!!!!
A perfect agent of Israel. Use the whore American Congress to pillage its own finances, soldiers and the future of this country. All because they can’t get along, never have and never will. Now we are Israel, too (Two). Great, thanks.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:43 pm#159, CC
“No difference if you refuse to believe that we have the right to protect our interests.â€
You didn’t prove that invasion was protecting our national interest. That’s why I said “putative justificationâ€. But wait, I know you had more…
“They know, you know, we all know. Darn that Saddam for not giving us the records to prove specifically where and how much, like paying large sums to widows of sucide bombers.â€
Hm. Still no proof here. Just you supposin’. But if you have better, please pass it on to the intelligence community. They’ve ADMITTED they couldn’t find any operative links. (Or other links, for that mattter.)
“Iraq is one of seven countries that have been designated by the Secretary of State as state sponsors of international terrorism. UNSCR 687 prohibits Saddam Hussein from committing or supporting terrorism, or allowing terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq. Saddam continues to violate these UNSCR provisions.
In 1993, the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) directed and pursued an attempt to assassinate, through the use of a powerful car bomb, former U.S. President George Bush and the Emir of Kuwait. Kuwaiti authorities thwarted the terrorist plot and arrested 16 suspects, led by two Iraqi nationals.
Iraq shelters terrorist groups including the Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO), which has used terrorist violence against Iran and in the 1970s was responsible for killing several U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians.
Iraq shelters several prominent Palestinian terrorist organizations in Baghdad, including the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), which is known for aerial attacks against Israel and is headed by Abu Abbas, who carried out the 1985 hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered U.S. citizen Leon Klinghoffer.
Iraq shelters the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.
In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers. The rules for rewarding suicide/homicide bombers are strict and insist that only someone who blows himself up with a belt of explosives gets the full payment. Payments are made on a strict scale, with different amounts for wounds, disablement, death as a “martyr” and $25,000 for a suicide bomber. Mahmoud Besharat, a representative on the West Bank who is handing out to families the money from Saddam, said, “You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue.”
Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.html
Enough for ya, J? Need more? Try google.
“Now there is an original response. Oh no wait, that’s the usual response by S-P’s to patriotism and/or the ineffectiveness of the U.N.
I think if I hated my country as much as you all hate the U.S., I’d go somewhere more suited to my tastes. Might I suggest France or Spain?â€
You and your assumptions! I’ll claim “progressive†(my apologies for my belief that people should work together to make this country better), but I’m not actually secular. Unless that now means “believer in God who thinks that’s no excuse for a theocracy.†I also don’t hate this country. I hate what its government is doing to its constituents.
Satan also believes in God. How do you suppose God feels about your usage of this “a$$clown!”? Is God ok with filth?
BTW, noticed you dodging that whole US Constitution, Art VI, p2 business.
Have a nice day, a$$clown!
:-D
Comment by J-rock — March 20, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
As usual, everything must be explained to the nth degree here or you will avoid the issue in a flash.
“Treaties, including the United Nations Charter, are binding instruments under international law, subject to limited grounds much like those in domestic contract law for invalidating or terminating them. ”
http://www.asil.org/insights/insight9.htm
I was referring to the fact that our government will honor a treaty (generally, yes I’m aware of native Americans, but let us stick with the issue here)unless circumstances change enough that there is a danger to us. This is unlike the situation with U.S. domestic law. I assumed it is common knowledge that there is disagreement among legal experts and policy experts in this area and that you were just avoiding the issue again.
Comment by J-rock — March 20, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
March 21st, 2007 at 12:00 amwe need a president whose foreign policy muscles ripple and twitch as you lovingly oil them…
revealing latent homosexual leanings, are we, Joe? not that there’s anything wrong with that…
Comment by Pete Bogs — March 20, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Again with the accusations of homosexuality. I think if I was gay, I might be a little upset that you people consistently call the people you don’t like, gay. Kind of sounds like your saying that there IS something wrong with that. That was a very common thing with boys in middle school I believe, calling someone a homosexual to insult them. And here you do it openly in the forum of the tolerant.
Comment by CC — March 20, 2007 @ 10:21 am
I don’t think Lieberman’s gay, but he totally walked into that one with his comments… I’d make the same comments to a close friend, gay or otherwise, btw… I reserve the right to rib public figures, especially ones who really deserve it…
March 21st, 2007 at 1:09 pmPS: what do you mean by “you people?” LOL
March 21st, 2007 at 1:10 pmPS: what do you mean by “you people?†LOL
Comment by Pete Bogs — March 21, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
I mean the S-P’s on this site who unfailingly display the same traits: avoiding the substance of a post by jumping on typos, distorting the obvious meaning of word usage, anti-Christian and/or anti-Semitic comments, and the most popular: suggesting that someone with whom they disagree is gay. It happens repeatedly on almost every thread I’ve seen.
March 21st, 2007 at 1:42 pmJoe Lieberman is a disgrace. He is willing to have Democrats vote him into congress then betray them by taking the other side’s point of view and threatening to change parties.
Hey, Joe, we know you are a Jew first and an American second. Why don’t you do the right thing and move to Israel and make yourself and us happy. We certainly don’t need more of you guys overtly justifying the crimes that Israel commits against those that own the land as much as they. I don’t want to hear more crap about how God promised the land to the Jews.
Israel has the right to exist and so does Palestine. The fact that they NATURALLY and for centuries have occupied the same real estate should mean they ought to be one nation. The UN had no right to create a land strictly for Jews.
My feeling on the matter, including Joe Lieberman is this, “Love Jews, hate Israel.”
March 21st, 2007 at 2:28 pmMaybe I’m slow, but I really do not follow the reasoning behind his statement. After all, a “strong and muscular foreign policy” is what got us into this mess that we are in now. What did the US ever do to him that Lieberman wishes MORE of this disaster on us?
March 24th, 2007 at 1:49 amThe heading on this page says Think Progress. Not seeing much thinking in the comments – just a lot of name calling in this echo chamber.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:16 am