Hey, Joe, we know you are a Jew first and an American second. Why don’t you do the right thing and move to Israel and make yourself and us happy. We certainly don’t need more of you guys overtly justifying the crimes that Israel commits against those that own the land as much as they. I don’t want to hear more crap about how God promised the land to the Jews.

Israel has the right to exist and so does Palestine. The fact that they NATURALLY and for centuries have occupied the same real estate should mean they ought to be one nation. The UN had no right to create a land strictly for Jews.

My feeling on the matter, including Joe Lieberman is this, “Love Jews, hate Israel.”

Comment by Pete Bogs — March 21, 2007 @ 1:10 pm

I mean the S-P’s on this site who unfailingly display the same traits: avoiding the substance of a post by jumping on typos, distorting the obvious meaning of word usage, anti-Christian and/or anti-Semitic comments, and the most popular: suggesting that someone with whom they disagree is gay. It happens repeatedly on almost every thread I’ve seen.

Again with the accusations of homosexuality. I think if I was gay, I might be a little upset that you people consistently call the people you don’t like, gay. Kind of sounds like your saying that there IS something wrong with that. That was a very common thing with boys in middle school I believe, calling someone a homosexual to insult them. And here you do it openly in the forum of the tolerant.

Comment by CC — March 20, 2007 @ 10:21 am

I don’t think Lieberman’s gay, but he totally walked into that one with his comments… I’d make the same comments to a close friend, gay or otherwise, btw… I reserve the right to rib public figures, especially ones who really deserve it…

“No difference if you refuse to believe that we have the right to protect our interests.”

You didn’t prove that invasion was protecting our national interest. That’s why I said “putative justification”. But wait, I know you had more…

“They know, you know, we all know. Darn that Saddam for not giving us the records to prove specifically where and how much, like paying large sums to widows of sucide bombers.”

Hm. Still no proof here. Just you supposin’. But if you have better, please pass it on to the intelligence community. They’ve ADMITTED they couldn’t find any operative links. (Or other links, for that mattter.)

“Iraq is one of seven countries that have been designated by the Secretary of State as state sponsors of international terrorism. UNSCR 687 prohibits Saddam Hussein from committing or supporting terrorism, or allowing terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq. Saddam continues to violate these UNSCR provisions.

In 1993, the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) directed and pursued an attempt to assassinate, through the use of a powerful car bomb, former U.S. President George Bush and the Emir of Kuwait. Kuwaiti authorities thwarted the terrorist plot and arrested 16 suspects, led by two Iraqi nationals.

Iraq shelters terrorist groups including the Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO), which has used terrorist violence against Iran and in the 1970s was responsible for killing several U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians.

Iraq shelters several prominent Palestinian terrorist organizations in Baghdad, including the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), which is known for aerial attacks against Israel and is headed by Abu Abbas, who carried out the 1985 hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered U.S. citizen Leon Klinghoffer.

Iraq shelters the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.

In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers. The rules for rewarding suicide/homicide bombers are strict and insist that only someone who blows himself up with a belt of explosives gets the full payment. Payments are made on a strict scale, with different amounts for wounds, disablement, death as a “martyr” and $25,000 for a suicide bomber. Mahmoud Besharat, a representative on the West Bank who is handing out to families the money from Saddam, said, “You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue.”

Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.html

Enough for ya, J? Need more? Try google.

“Now there is an original response. Oh no wait, that’s the usual response by S-P’s to patriotism and/or the ineffectiveness of the U.N.
I think if I hated my country as much as you all hate the U.S., I’d go somewhere more suited to my tastes. Might I suggest France or Spain?”

You and your assumptions! I’ll claim “progressive” (my apologies for my belief that people should work together to make this country better), but I’m not actually secular. Unless that now means “believer in God who thinks that’s no excuse for a theocracy.” I also don’t hate this country. I hate what its government is doing to its constituents.

Satan also believes in God. How do you suppose God feels about your usage of this “a$$clown!”? Is God ok with filth?

BTW, noticed you dodging that whole US Constitution, Art VI, p2 business.
Have a nice day, a$$clown!
:-D
Comment by J-rock — March 20, 2007 @ 2:01 pm

As usual, everything must be explained to the nth degree here or you will avoid the issue in a flash.

“Treaties, including the United Nations Charter, are binding instruments under international law, subject to limited grounds much like those in domestic contract law for invalidating or terminating them. ”
http://www.asil.org/insights/insight9.htm

I was referring to the fact that our government will honor a treaty (generally, yes I’m aware of native Americans, but let us stick with the issue here)unless circumstances change enough that there is a danger to us. This is unlike the situation with U.S. domestic law. I assumed it is common knowledge that there is disagreement among legal experts and policy experts in this area and that you were just avoiding the issue again.

Comment by J-rock — March 20, 2007 @ 2:01 pm

‘Judas Went Out And Hanged Himself….”
GO THOU, LIE-berman, AND DO LIKEWISE!!!!!!!!!!

For US troops from 9th Cavalry Regiment bumping around the dangerous streets of Baghdad in Humvees after dark on Monday, news that their deployment in Iraq could be extended fell like a hammer blow.

“We just want to get out of here as soon as possible,” said one vehicle commander in one of his few printable comments.

“It could be tempting to look at the challenges in Iraq and conclude our best option is to pack up and go home,” Bush said, four years to the day after he announced that American troops were fighting to depose Saddam Hussein.

But the lower ranks were in rebellious mood, especially after publication of a poll on Monday, commissioned by the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today, which showed only 18 percent of those questioned had confidence in US and coalition troops, while 78 percent opposed their presence……

You BET, Nico!! Terrorists world-wide are quaking in their sandals at the thought of the US “re-deploying” - especially since those same terrorists KNOW US troops are not “re-deploying” NEAR THEM any time soon!

Let me guess – you think Neville Chanberlain had the right approach with Hitler?

That’s Liberman Talk for: No Democratic Candidate is an unmitigated warmongering slime ball like me!

Thank You Jesus!

In other words, those of you who are from CT and who voted for this guy, you aren’t terribly bright now are you?

Anyway, on JFK when he was feeling strong and muscular, hmm, lets look at the results shall we? The Vietnam war which is still remembered as a humiliating defeat for America. The Bay of Pigs, one of the biggest military screw-ups in history, often referenced as such in study guides the world over, and of course, the situation that led to the Cuban missile crisis. Yep, JFK feeling muscular really, really sets an example now doesn’t it?

“No difference if you refuse to believe that we have the right to protect our interests.”

You didn’t prove that invasion was protecting our national interest. That’s why I said “putative justification”. But wait, I know you had more…

“They know, you know, we all know. Darn that Saddam for not giving us the records to prove specifically where and how much, like paying large sums to widows of sucide bombers.”

Hm. Still no proof here. Just you supposin’. But if you have better, please pass it on to the intelligence community. They’ve ADMITTED they couldn’t find any operative links. (Or other links, for that mattter.)

“Now there is an original response. Oh no wait, that’s the usual response by S-P’s to patriotism and/or the ineffectiveness of the U.N.
I think if I hated my country as much as you all hate the U.S., I’d go somewhere more suited to my tastes. Might I suggest France or Spain?”

You and your assumptions! I’ll claim “progressive” (my apologies for my belief that people should work together to make this country better), but I’m not actually secular. Unless that now means “believer in God who thinks that’s no excuse for a theocracy.” I also don’t hate this country. I hate what its government is doing to its constituents.

I care for neither France nor Spain. And I can stay right here and schmooze with pseudo-intellectuals such as your fine self.

BTW, noticed you dodging that whole US Constitution, Art VI, p2 business.

Have a nice day, a$$clown!

:-D