Bush lashes out.
At a press conference moments ago:
“We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants. The initial response by Democrats unfortunately shows some appear more interested in scoring political points than in learning the facts. It will be regrettable if they choose to head down the partisan road of issuing subpoenas and demanding show trials. And I have agreed to make key White House officials and documents available. I proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse, and I hope they don’t choose confrontation. I will oppose any attempts to subpoena White House officials.”
UPDATE: Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said, “I don’t accept [the White House’s] offer. It is not constructive and it is not helpful to be telling the Senate how to do our investigation, or to prejudge its outcome. … Testimony should be on the record, and under oath. That’s the formula for true accountability.”
Cornered animals always lash out. Also, CNN says Leahy does not accept the WH offer of being able to have the liars get away with lying.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmPartisan? The blackest pot, calling the kettle dark gray.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pmBring home the troops…
…issue warrants for Bushiva and L’il Dick’s arrests…
…on charges of TREASON…
…deputize the ENTIRE Democratic electorate…
…in case Rove, Delay and the THUGS wanna obstruct justice being served…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:11 pmThat’s the good old “the best defense is a rabid dog offense”.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:11 pmLet’s get ready to rumble!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:11 pmSubpoena them now!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pmyou go something to hide W?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pmWOO HOO!! Hopefully, now that the President has told Congress to go pound sand on subpoenas, we can really see what a bunch of impotent cowards they are . . .
Your move.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pm“I will oppose any attempts to subpoena White House officials”
The Constitutional crisis is looming. We thought it would come over his plans to illegally invade Iran.
But Bush is planning to bring this to a head now. He’s going to challenge the COngress. We’ll see if the COngress is made up of patriots or sniveling corrupted sychophants. They will either call Bush’s bluff and demand subpoenas be honored, and if the subpoenas are not, go to the Supreme COurt and then — to the streets.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pmJust got back from watching the President’s speech…the only word that adequately fits Chimpy’s demeanor was ‘pugnacious’…it looked like he was going to start swinging any second.
The principle argument that Chimpy put forth for not allowing Rove and Miers to testify under oath was that he was concerned that establishing such a precedent would keep presidential advisors from speaking candidly, harming the ability of the President to receive sound advice.
What a crock. Chimpy sees the constitutional crisis up ahead, and responds by jamming the throttle wide open. It’s obvious that this sociopath would rather destroy this country than hand it over. He and his band of murderous thugs need to be removed from power.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:13 pmgood for him
March 20th, 2007 at 6:13 pmGo, go, go, President Bush!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:13 pmChris Matthews liked Bush’s combative style, even though he thinks something is fishy. Lou Dobbs thinks the Dems are being partisan, even though he says the White House has lied. In other news, kittens are cute and cuddly.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pmThe posturing and bully tactics have worked so well up until this point George….
March 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“To the streets”, ChildrenofLir?! LOL
March 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pmBring it on Assclown Presidential Poseur!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pmThe fall of the Bush regime will be so fun to watch, we will enjoy it so much !!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pmSmells like well-done Dick Nixon. Chimpy, 70% of us think you suck.
-GSD
March 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmbushie is afraid of his henchmen testifying under oath. Why, georgie?
Any trolls out there, could you help me out. Just why are informal interviews, with no transcripts helpful? The nixon parallels are astounding.
New bush vodka ad:
March 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmAbsolut Obstruction
I fully expect the Democrats to cave on this and NOT issue subpoenas. Judging from the past two months, the Democratic party is completely dead and useless.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmBush is betting that the Congress will back down on the Constitutional Crisis.
The Congress damn well better not back down.
Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmHey, RemoveBush — make sure you get some really big U.S. Marshals to arrest Bush ; )
March 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmThat was the same backdrop for the “I did not have se*ual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky moment. And he got angry and wagged his finger.
For a Presidential staff supposedly smart on PR, that was an incredibly dumb place to do that announcement.
Nice.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:15 pmIt’s HIS government and HE’S the decider!
Thou shalt not question my war!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmWe’ll see if the COngress is made up of patriots or sniveling corrupted sychophants. They will either call Bush’s bluff and demand subpoenas be honored, and if the subpoenas are not, go to the Supreme COurt and then — to the streets.
Comment by ChildrenofLir
sniveling corrupted sychophants is ur answer
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmJake,
Leahy says he does not accept the offer.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmJake
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmWatch out. The revolution is coming thanks to your Commander in Thief
From rawstory:
In a statement released before Bush’s remarks, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) released a statement which called on Rove to testify under oath.
“After telling a bunch of different stories about why they fired the U.S. Attorneys, the Bush Administration is not entitled to the benefit of the doubt,” Reid said. “Congress and the American people deserve a straight answer. If Karl Rove plans to tell the truth, he has nothing to fear from being under oath like any other witness.â€
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmThe Chimp’s coming unglued…he knows his end is imminent. Anyone with such an arrogant chip on their shoulder at this point in the game (losing side) has more arrogance than sense. He’s definitely losing his grip in his lashing out this evening. I’d say he’s just had his last press conference in his presidency. I’d say he’s now “toast”.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pm“I’m the preznit dammit, I got books and stuff behind me. “
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmBush had his hand in his pocket. I thought he looked like he was feeling a little teste.
-GSD
March 20th, 2007 at 6:16 pmJesus, when, oh when, can impeachment proceedings get started?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmJake
March 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmThe people will arrest Bush. Ever heard of the French REvolution.
Bush is correct completely here. While the Dems have the right to perform these political show trials, Bush shouldn’t lower himself to those standards. He hopes, as well as most Americans, that the Dems move on and start focusing on real issues. What Bush did wasn’t even a crime regardless of his reasons.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmbush’s premise is that this gonzales flap is all just political posturing from the democrats. this argument appears specious when the administration is scared to testify under oath and is attempting absurd legal acrobatics to avoid it. But ok, let’s just see. let’s go ahead and have a national referendum on whether rove and others should testify. no partisan games here, let the people decide. if bush is such a tough guy he will suggest this himself
March 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAll of my in-laws, who are very conservative are now asking for Bush’s head on a plate.
Salome, care to dance?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmFlaco: You are a bold-faced idiot.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmPLEASE CALL AND ASK SENATOR LEAHY TO USE SUBPOENAS!!!
DC PHONE : 202-224-4242
March 20th, 2007 at 6:18 pmFAX: 202 224 3479
Such false bravado from a man in a quagmire up to his shoulders! Such false bravado actually signifies that he’s shaking in his shoes! Such false bravado is that of an ignorant man who knows that his gig is finally up! Such false bravado will bring the impeachment charges for certain. Like the true bully which he is, he’s saying…nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah…..”I call the shots ’round this schoolyard”…but he doesn’t realize that he will be steamrolled by the festering crowd waiting patiently for him in the classroom.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:18 pmI thought he looked like he was feeling a little teste.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:19 pmBWWAAAHAHAHAHH~!
When this goes to the Supreme Court, and the Court has no choice but to rule against BUsh’s outrageous usurpation of Congressional authority -
The crisis will go to the streets.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:19 pmAll of my in-laws, who are very conservative are now asking for Bush’s head on a plate.
Salome, care to dance?
Comment by RUCerious
Are those (in laws) ur cousins too?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:19 pmForTruth:
Then let Leahy enforce his subpoena.
ChildrenofLir:
It is illegal to threaten bodily harm to the President or Vice President.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:19 pmAny psychologist will tell you that this is one desperate man. I’m surprised he didn’t reduce himself to tears in this appearance. Maybe he should be nominated now for an Academy Award?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:19 pmBut we want that confrontation, you miserable, lying sack of poopy-doopy. You’re not looking so good, Chimpy. Yes, we have no bananas, today.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pmIf it’s just a “political flap” as the master of chicanery purports, then let’s see it via sworn testimony. Insisting on unsworn testimony is an “unofficial admission of guilt” and people can see right through it.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pmwyderp:
Separation of Powers is NOT absurd legal acrobatics.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:21 pmThe talking head neo-con media is scared now. It’s getting ‘real’ Tucker Carlson wags. “Reality” is a hard concept for overpaid overrated fools who babble on day after day from talking points from remote studios.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:21 pmDid I just happen to scroll by some troll blather? hahaha! They just don’t get it that they’re completely irrelevant here, do they?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:21 pmJake
March 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pmIt is illegal for the President and Vice President to lie to the Congress and send our children, our soldiers to die for a lie, for profits, for corruption, for elitist power grabbing. THAT”S WHAT IS ILLEGAL JAKE.
Jake,
I will let Leahy issue subpoena’s that have yet to be issued.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pmroger_roger: A show trial, comrade, implies that the charges are baseless. So why are worried about rove, et al testifying under oath?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pmAre you scared like bush?
If Bush claims to be interested “in learning the facts” then why has he emphatically stated that White House employees will not be testifying under oath, on the record, in a public forum? What is he and the rest of the administration trying to hide? Why is he not allowing sunshine to fall on their testimony? The word hypocrite is not strong enough to describe the words that tumble from the mouth of this prevaricator, especially from someone who claimed that he would restore honor and integrity to the White House.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pmI’m wondering what drugs he’s taking??
March 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pmFlaco, you do know who Salome was, don’t you?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:23 pmIf they’re the right ones for BPD, he didn’t take them today, that’s certain.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:23 pmJohn Farr: “I fully expect the Democrats to cave on this and NOT issue subpoenas.”
Let’s see. Dingle’s got subpoenas ready. Leahy is writing them up. Waxman has already issued subpoenas pursuent to his committee hearings. Maybe John Farr knows something we don’t.
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Up yours, Dumbya. If you had agreed to make these “honorable public servants” available, why didn’t you make them available under oath? You define the phrase “horses ass”
March 20th, 2007 at 6:23 pmTaking it to the streets Jake. That’s what’s gonna happen. And your Commander in Thief made it happen by lying, cheating, perverting, and sending children to their deaths for his gain.
Taking it to the streets Jake. Get ready for reality. When the government no longer represents the people, the people have the duty to stop it.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:23 pmOffer? Bush is making an offer and trying to limit the investigation into his administration’s corrupt activities?
Shove it, Chimpy. 70% of this country has had it with you.
Subpoenas — NOW.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:23 pmOur resident imbecile troll needs a quick primer in constitutional law, doesn’t he? While he’s at it, he also needs to get his GED!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmI’ve seen mentally challenged inpatients in state run psychiatric facilities who appear more composed. Give this asswipe a sedative suppository, nurse! QUICK!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmAll of my in-laws, who are very conservative are now asking for Bush’s head on a plate.
Comment by RUCerious
My Dad, who is Republican and retired military after 40 years is asking for Bush’s head on a platter, along with the rest of the Bush cabal.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmThough that happened after the Walter Reed story broke.
Jake, get off your dumb ass. There was no threat made by referencing the French Revolution. No mention of a guillotine ready to lop off the head of the monarch, none whatseover.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmComment by mandolin #11
Comment by Flaco #12
Comment by Jake #15
…now’s your chance to DEFEND your god…
…grab your weapon and run into the street…
…PLEASE!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmIf they were cousins (related by blood) they can’t be in-laws (related by law).
Dipsh!t.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmI have to say that was the most bellicose, belligerent display I’ve ever seen by a sitting president. He’s back in “dead or alive, bring it on” mode. Pretty shocking to throw down the gauntlet like that. If his intent was to embarrass Leahy, et al, he failed.
Babs, what did you do to that boy?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:24 pmCould someone send Donald Trump to fire him and just get this over with?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmChrildrenofLir:
When did the Vice President lie to Congress?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmHard to believe it’s only been 8 years, but here’s a golden oldie:
WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, July 26) — Top Republicans Sunday warned President Bill Clinton that refusing to honor independent counsel Ken Starr’s grand jury subpoena in the Monica Lewinsky case could have serious political consequences — including the possibility of impeachment.
“I think it would be disastrous. It is basically saying he is above the law, he doesn’t have to comply with the law,” said Senate Majority Whip Don Nickles of Oklahoma on NBC’s “Meet The Press.” “Everybody else in America has to comply with subpoenas (while) he’s saying he wouldn’t. … I don’t think that would be sustainable.”
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmRoger_roger
We won’t need a show trial. We have the facts. And we’ll get the rest of the facts when we subpoena and Bush is forced under threat of arrest to turn over the documents.
Then we’ll get the documents from Cheney’s Energy conferences in early 2001 when he and the cabal plotted to takeover Iraq using any ruse, to gain control of its oil. The treasonous plot will then be exposed.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmThe truth will prevail and the american people will know all the lurid details in due time. What we’ve already got in terms of the true details stacking up against this administration is certainly enough to bring about impeachment proceedings. Since when have we become a country to accept multiple lies from our commander in chief? Since when?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmNurse? Excuse me, Nurse Jake? I said NOW!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmI am reallllllllly hoping that Leahy remembers Big Time telling him to F off. Bring it it on, Jethro.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmThe next stage should be impeaching the President and Vice-President and all their minions for obstruction of Justice. Huzzah! Maybe we can finally get Karl Rove too.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmFace it, Chimpy : You are the Worst President this country has ever seen.
Period.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmThis is getting better by the minute. TP, recap that led us to this moment? What’s going to be the best slogan tonight on the talking head channels? This is the battle royale.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pmErrol:
Separation of Powers — it’s in the Constitution, look it up.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pmWOO HOO!! Hopefully, now that the President has told Congress to go pound sand on subpoenas, we can really see what a bunch of impotent cowards they are . . .
Your move.
Comment by Jake
This comes from a 70 y/o person? Hardly.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pmSlap those subpoenas on ‘em!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pmBig Papa- Yeah!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pmSpudge, thanks for the backup. Probably wasted on the flaccid one.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pmWhat Bush did wasn’t even a crime regardless of his reasons.
Comment by Roger_Roger
And therein lies the problem. It seems like real democracy is too much for the right to imagine. As long as ‘deal leader’ didn’t actually ‘break any laws’ - even to the point of making a mockery of the traditional process - then all is well. It’s funny for a person who doesn’t do nuance, Mr. Bush tries it out for size whenever it suits his own purpose.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmJake likes to live in a constant state of fear, like his other friends in the 30 percenter group.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmbig papa:
I was laughing at ChildrenofLir wanting to take guns to the street. I’m not going to do that.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmSpudger, did you notice flaccido didn’t respond when I asked him if he knew who Salome was.
Thump that Bible, but don’t take the time to read it.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmBush’s speech sounded very much like a threat against Congress. I hope to God they do take a confrontational approach to those sons of bitches. They deserve a traitors death.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmBush is an imbecile and a punk and he is going to self-destruct because of it.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:27 pmOffer? Bush is making an offer and trying to limit the investigation into his administration’s corrupt activities? — Zooey
Nixon tried the same thing, we all know how that worked for Tricky Dicky
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pmI’m wearing lovely lacy panties under my Dockers.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pmChecks and Balances - read all about it, jakers
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pmActually if Jake really is 75, he’s pretty progressive for that age group. Most of them don’t expose themselves to anything but the good ol mornin newspaper, and certainly wouldn’t stick around to argue about politics.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pmI most loved this line:
“It will harm the president’s ability to get good information“
“[G]et good information.” ROFLMAO. That Dubya’s such a cut-up. Such a joker. He ought to sit in for Jon Stewart on TDS….
After the Iraq debacle, Dubya’s trying to protect his ability to “get good information”?!?!?
More on my blog.
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pmZooey:
Is is going to enforce said subpoenas?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pmBring it bitch.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:28 pm[…] The President commenting on Congress’ effort to get to the bottom of the US attorney purge: “‘We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants.’” (link) […]
March 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pmOh my f*ing Jesus, I can’t believe it! The man’s gonna blow! Run… run for your lives!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pm“Come back here again and I will chop you into little pieces!” The armless, legless dark knight cried.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pm#63 He needs some strong meds from that performance. He really does believe himself to be “above the law”. What a sad performance from someone in the highest office in this country. What a sad fact to realize that he’s someone with such a lack of class, finesse, and self control as to make himself look like a schoolyard bully in a national press conference. The rest of the world must be laughing their asses off as us after they see this performance by Bush. I’m embarassed for all of us.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pmBlueDog:
Independent Counsel investigating the President is CONSTITUTIONALLY different from Congress doing so.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:29 pmMoonbat Frenzy!
Moonbat Frenzy!
Moonbat Frenzy!
Moonbat Frenzy!
Warning run for cover!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pmJuan C:
I’m actually 75.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pmA few months from now…after Bush has been arrested for refusing to comply with Congressional orders to turn over documents.
The crowd storms the barricades in front of the National Security Agency, enters the archives hidden downstairs, locates Cheney’s secret minutes of the 2001 Energy Conference.
The American people finally learn the truth, that the Bush cabal plotted to lie to Congress and the American people to use our children, our soldiers, to fight a proxy war for the Saudis.
The Bush cabal received billions in secret payments in exchange for sending our children, our soldiers to their deaths.
The outrage is unsurpassed.
The military guard were forced to secret Bush and Cheney away to Guantanamo for protection.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pmI loved watching Nixon go down. But I think watching Bushco crash and burn is going to be a million times more fun. Gonna buy and big package of marshmallows and put my feet up!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pmSubpoena away and if they refuse, they will be held in contempt and slapped into jail - just like any of us.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pmYeah. Bring it on!Why me laugh?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pmJake
I never mentioned guns.
You did.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pm#93 Good - If Jakeoff is really 75 then he’s pretty long in tooth with one foot on a banana peel ….. Good riddance to bad rubbish, eh?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pmRUCerious:
Infringing on Executive Privilege cannot be allowed.
ForTruth:
Thanks — and I’m kicking butt here single-handedly too, don’t forget that!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pm#28 Wayne:
Time to send Reid some love. That’s what we’ve been waiting for for six years: Someone to call that a$$hole on his BS maladministraiton.
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pmA few months from now…after Bush has been arrested for refusing to comply with Congressional orders to turn over documents.
The crowd storms the barricades in front of the National Security Agency, enters the archives hidden downstairs, locates Cheney’s secret minutes of the 2001 Energy Conference.
The American people finally learn the truth, that the Bush cabal plotted to lie to Congress and the American people to use our children, our soldiers, to fight a proxy war for the Saudis.
The Bush cabal received billions in secret payments in exchange for sending our children, our soldiers to their deaths.
The outrage is unsurpassed.
The military guard were forced to secret Bush and Cheney away to Guantanamo for protection
March 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pmWacko Bush is scared and knows this is the big one. The Justice System requires all to testify under oath or take the 5th. Now Gonzales will be charged with lying under oath because he did lie. Bush now wants all to testify not under oath and behind closed doors as they can freely lie and keep the secrets of illegally firing DOJ lawyers away for the public. I hope Ted Wells is paying attention because the question is did Gonzales refuse to let Fitzgerald charge Rove of his crimes in the CIA case yet let Libby take the fall. I did notice that Fitzgerald 2005 job review was poor yet he was awarded Lawyer of the Year. Bush will be busted as with Nixon the United States is not a Dictatorship. Daddy Bush will have to come in and bail out his idiot son Georgie yet again.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pmActually, big papa brought up guns first.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pm#104 Let’s pop some popcorn because this is going to be a good show. Essentially, we’re in a position to view history in the making. Bush is a true side show and his administration is the quintessential “3 ring circus” - this will be very interesting to observe.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pmveritas:
The President cannot be arrested! You fool.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pmHe should know! He is the “show trial” expert at Gitmo!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI can hear the music from “The Beverly Hillbillies” playing now in the background at the WH.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pmWhen Bush talks about “show trials”, you should listen. After all, he’s an expert on the subject.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pm75? Months perhaps. What unit did you serve in during WWII or Korea Jakers?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pmSome crimes that a special prosecutor might one day look at:
1. Misrepresentations to Congress. The relevant provision, 18 U.S.C. § 1505, is very broad. It is illegal to lie to Congress, and also to “impede†it in getting information. Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty indicated to Congress that the White House’s involvement in firing the United States attorneys was minimal, something that Justice Department e-mail messages suggest to be untrue.
2. Calling the Prosecutors. As part of the Sarbanes-Oxley reforms, Congress passed an extremely broad obstruction of justice provision, 18 U.S.C. § 1512 (c), which applies to anyone who corruptly “obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,†including U.S. attorney investigations.
3. Witness Tampering. 18 U.S.C. § 1512 (b) makes it illegal to intimidate Congressional witnesses. Michael Elston, Mr. McNulty’s chief of staff, contacted one of the fired attorneys, H. E. Cummins, and suggested, according to Mr. Cummins, that if he kept speaking out, there would be retaliation.
4. Firing the Attorneys. United States attorneys can be fired whenever a president wants, but not, as § 1512 (c) puts it, to corruptly obstruct, influence, or impede an official proceeding.
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 03/ 19/ opinion/ 19mon4.html?_r=1&bl&ex=1174536000&en=47a69d5cd8348721&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin
March 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pmChildrenofLir
Boy what an imagination u have.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pmGreat fiction/drama
Zooey:
“Is is” = “Who is”
(Dang spell-checker ; )
March 20th, 2007 at 6:34 pm#34 Roger_Roger:
While the Dems have the right to perform these political show trials, Bush shouldn’t lower himself to those standards.
They’re not “show trials”. They’re hearings. If there’s nothing that’s not above-board, there should be no problem in hearing the maladministration out on what they did … ummm … right?
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 6:34 pmBring in the clowns….Yes.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:34 pmJake
March 20th, 2007 at 6:34 pmThe revolution won’t be televised.
Is is going to enforce said subpoenas?
Comment by Jake
You mean “who is” going to enforce the supoenas, Jake?
Frankly, at this point I have no idea. But these criminals need to answer for this corruption, so it will all get figured out, won’t it?
This shit is illegal, Jake, and it’s really sweet to know that you’re ok with that, as long as they can get away with it. You’re just the kind of American that is ruining this country.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:34 pmArne:
Do you honestly think the President of the United States can be arrested? Even Ken Starr agreed he could not do that!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:35 pm#103 I fear the truth about the sad facts surrounding the air of contamination of this administration - we do need to see the actual documents of Cheney’s 2001 Energy Conference because herein lies the crux of why we are in such a mess in this country today. That along with a reinvestigation of the myriad of inconsistencies surrounding 911 - the wargames which were taking place on 9/10 and 9/11 and why they were used to confuse the air traffic controllers, etc. There’s sooooo much yet to be revealed but, like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, we will dig for the truth, piece by piece until we understand how this all came about.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:35 pmlol!!! Bush is goading the Democrats into a fight they cannot win. You don’t have the power.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:35 pmI was in a family for more than 26 years that joined Organized Crime only this wasn’t any ordinary Crime System. There’s something unbelievable underneath this mess that is begging to come out. Expect them to fight like hell to keep the mountain of “things” from surfacing. A Dam can leak but sooner or later it’s going to break!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:36 pmThe President cannot be arrested! You fool.
Comment by Jake
But they can be hanged. We just saw that.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:36 pmSeparation of Powers — it’s in the Constitution, look it up.
Comment by Jake
Nixon and his almost impeachment, look it up.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:36 pmNixon lost in court.
Even Clinton’s advisors had to testify before Congress.
look it up Jake
Jake is backpedaling fast, from “nothing illegal” to “can’t be arrested”.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pm#115- He can be tried for war crimes and high treason.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pmWe need to reverse the Military Commissions Act next and hold BushCo accountable for their Abu Graib war crimes, too. With this recent “showdown” on national television, the people will now stop at nothing and will demand investigations into everything this administration has done from it’s stolen elections to the present….and everything in between because our trust has been squandered by them and respect for the entire lot is gone.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pmIt doesn’t matter what GWB says… Time is up for these idiots. However, I think America and the world is in deep shit, because of these dimwits.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pmi’ve been calling the senators on the judiciary and also john conyers office to say:
THEY MUST TESTIFY … UNDER OATH … NO EXCEPTIONS.
ROVE AND MEIRS, ALL OF THEM, THEY MUST BE UNDER OATH.
8 6 6 . 2 2 0 . 0 0 4 4
here is a list of senate judiciary members:
March 20th, 2007 at 6:37 pmhttp://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm
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Actually, big papa brought up guns first.
Comment by Jake #113
…what can I say…
…I’m an avid sportsman…
…the ONE thing I have in common…
…with L’il Dick…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmmrjj:
Too bad the Independent Counsel statute expired after Starr, huh?
Childrenof Lir:
No one is going to “revolt” as long as I have breath in my body.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmFrom the Boston Globe, 2005:
But the agenda was different during the Clinton administration. The government reform panel alone, for example, issued 1,052 subpoenas related to investigations of the Clinton administration and the Democratic National Committee from 1997 to 2002, and only 11 subpoenas related to allegations of Republican abuse.
The panel received more than 2 million pages of documents and heard from 44 Clinton administration officials, including two White House chiefs of staff, according to statistics culled by Democratic staff on the Government Reform Committee.
Let’s just keep some of this in mind, Bush cultists, before you get your panties in a bunch about “executive privilege.”
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmSpudger, did you notice flaccido didn’t respond when I asked him if he knew who Salome was.
Thump that Bible, but don’t take the time to read it.
Comment by RUCerious
Hey u guys bible scholars too wow!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmLet’s see Jakers would have been about 20 or so at the outset of the Korean Conflict. What unit were you with Jakers?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmBush likes to remind himself all the time that he cannot be arrested. It’s his favorite part about being the Preznit. He even inserts that line into jokes all day. “And I can’t be arrested” heh, heh, heh.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pm#47 Jake:
Separation of Powers is NOT absurd legal acrobatics.
Tell that to Nixon (or Fred Fielding, I suppose, since Nixon’s dead but ol’ Fred’s been resurrected for this kind of thing). See U.S. v. Nixon.
You might also note what happened when Starr got going….
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmZoe, Jake is the quintessential slimebag. With each of his statements, we get a clearer picture of precisely what his “schtick” is all about. He’s delusional at best; psychotic at worst. No sense for anyone intelligent to have direct dialogue with a psycho.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pm“Come back here again and I will chop you into little pieces!†The armless, legless dark knight cried.
Comment by tablogloid
“It’s just a flesh wound.”
March 20th, 2007 at 6:39 pm;)
> What Bush did wasn’t even a crime regardless of his reasons.
> Comment by Roger_Roger
Your Leichengehorsam to the Prez is admirable. The Leader’s Will shall prevail, whatever the reason? But of course.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:39 pmThik about it. This is just a prelude to the beautiful legal situation that will occur on January 20, 2009, shortly after Al Gore and Wes Clark are sworn in. Agents of the United Nations will walk on the stage at the capitol, put Bush and Cheney in cuffs and leg irons, march them off the stage and out to Dulles where they will be flown overnight to Amsterdam. On arrival they will be transferred to Den Hague where they will await the first day of their War Crime trials.
Dumbya’s legal worries have only just begun (with apologies to the Carpenters).
I get giddy just thinking about it.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:39 pmThere is a massive call bank occurring right now countrywide for either the under oath, public testimony of these criminals or the ouster of the entire Bush Administration. Get one the phones tonight, call everyone you know, and get the word out ASAP that this guy has just ignited a direct conflict with the american people and the american way of life.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:40 pmZooey and VerbalKint:
I’m not admitting anything they did was illegal, but even assuming it was (called a hypothetical where I come from), no one can arrest the President of the United States anyways. All you’ve got is impeachment — is that back “on the table” now?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pmCongress should invite Fitgerald to conduct the questioning.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pmveritas:
Who are you calling? Congressional offices are closed (or maybe you missed the time change?).
March 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pmIf the President refuses the order to turn over documents based on subpoena - he can be arrested Jake.
This is what dopes like you don’t understand.
Nixon came to the brink of this point, and he resigned rather than push the COnstitutional crisis that would result. No President has ever refused the authority of the the Congress and the Supreme Court and refused to follow an order
Should Bush refuse, he would be subject to immediate impeachement. At some point, should he refuse to honor the decision of the Congress, whenever that point comes, he would have to be arrested.
This has never happened before. But you wouldn’t get that Jake. You’re too ignorant.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pmBenDover:
At least you agree that Bush cannot be arrested before then, right? I remember Pat Buchanan saying he would do the same thing to Clinton had he won too . . .
March 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pm> Do you honestly think the President of the United States can be
> arrested? Even Ken Starr agreed he could not do that!
> Comment by Jake
That’s right. So shortly before, he has to be relieved of his office. Is this so hard to understand?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pmCmon Jakers you can take one minute to let us all know where you spent the Korean Conflict years, can’t you. I can’t imagine a patriot such as yourself not having served in the military…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWOO HOO!! Hopefully, now that the President has told Congress to go pound sand on subpoenas, we can really see what a bunch of impotent cowards they are . . .
Your move.
Comment by Jake
Of course had this been about a certain extra-marital affairsinvolving a certain past Democratic President, it would be a whole different matter now wouldn’t it.
HYPOCRITE.
Doesn’t make any difference, he will lose on this one.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:43 pm#79 Jake:
Separation of Powers — it’s in the Constitution, look it up.
Uh, where?!? Couldn’t find it in my Constitution. You living on Uranus or sumptin’?
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 6:43 pm#136 The scales have been tipped in such a direction of darkness that three honest presidents will not be able to undo the damage done by this cadre of criminals. This is unfortunate - but accurate. Their insidious poison has now permeated all aspects of american life, our image abroad, and our future success. They’be been spewing their poisonous reach into the DOJ in order to contaminate what should be an autonomous branch of this government. Prior to this new congress (of the people), they’d contaminated that branch of the tripod of our democracy which is precisely why the damage has reached unprecedented proportions. It will take a Herculean or superhuman to come in here and clean up the disaster they will leave in their wake.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:43 pmJake sez:
I can’t believe what I’m reading.
Jake, this is criminally stupid, even for you.
Are you seriously suggesting that Chimpy and his gang can just ignore subpeonas? That they need not concern themselves with them, because no one can force them to conform to the rule of law?
Is this seriously what this country has come to?
Jake, if this is truly your position…if you truly support the idea of a band of sociopaths hijacking this country and declaring themselves above the law…then don’t be surprised at what comes next. If you deny the people legal means of redressing grievances, they will find another way.
This is America. It’s been a while since we fought for and won our freedom, but we still remember how to deal with tyrants.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmBUSH, GO F*CK YOURSELF!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmEver hear of answering machines, dweeb?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmBluedog49,
Great couple of posts.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmToo bad the knowledge is wasted on jake.
#152. Once again Jake is sucking slough water. He knows not how Congressional offices work. Call the number Jake. Voice your Republic Party talking pionts. There will be someone there to listen to your drivel.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmHa ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmProbably Lavoisier said the same thing. What a load of crap. But thanks, anyway.
I’m not telling you, RUCerious.
Arne — as long as you agree the President cannot be arrested, I’m fine with taking the other chances.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pm#48 I think your scenario may be prophetic, indeed! I’ve heard that Al Gore is waiting in the wings and is the dark horse in this race….of course, Wes Clark will be highlighted as one of the “enlightened ones” who were not stupid and derelect enough to give this yingyang a Yes vote on Iraq…..
March 20th, 2007 at 6:45 pmNo one is going to “revolt†as long as I have breath in my body.
Jake, even the amount of wind you have won’t protect you from what’s going to come down if the President refuses to do what’s he’s ordered to do by the people’s representatives.
jake, go back to your Hitler bunker
March 20th, 2007 at 6:45 pmJake,
Pay attention! I NEVER said the “president” needs to be arrested. I said subpoenas need to be issued for those staff members Bush offering up in the “deal.”
GOT IT?
Don’t admit anything is illegal, Jake, we all know what you are. I don’t know why any of us gives you the time of day.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:45 pmJake….the “president” can be impeached. That is the best and final resolution for the misery that bastard has caused our constitution and the world. Should you not agree, I recommend you call Rush for more talking points.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:45 pmJPV:
Congress investigating the Executive branch is a bit different than the Independent Counsel do so. Let me know if you don’t understand the difference between the two.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:46 pmOne more time: 44 Clinton administration officials, including two White House chiefs of staff were forced to testify in the five years between 1997 and 2002.
Why are trolls acting like these kinds of things are unprecidented and strange? It’s almost as if someone tells them what to say and they don’t really look at the facts or history backing up their statements.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:46 pm#158 We’ve been attempting to educate our resident idiots on constitutional law all day but it’s hopeless. You simply can’t polish a turd any more than you can wish one had an average intelligence quotient. Sad, but true.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:46 pmYep. Reaad the whole thing, front to back cover and was raised Christian my entire life. It is why I find it to be a really great book with some great ideology you guys should start to follow. Things like how Jesus said you should treat your fellow man.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pmHey Ben….It’s not slough water….it’s outhouse water! hahahah!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pm#115 Jake,
Any American who breaks the law, including ALL government officials, can be arrested. We are a nation of laws and no one is above the law or immune to it.
Either dementia has set in or you are just the most ignorant and outlandishly stupid 75 year old on the planet. My guess is that you are just a farce trying to usurp the respect traditionally given to elders in order to lend credibility to your asinine assertions.
Imagine someone living through the heinousness of WWII era dictators and oppressive regimes only to later profess that the president of the United States has, and should have, dictatorial powers. If it weren’t such a serious subject it would actually be hilarious.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pm“The president cannot be arrested.”
That statement is profoundly unamerican.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pm#167. Cross your fingers and toes and eyes that it happens. Just think of the standing the United States will regain in the world community with two highly educated and articulate and passionate people running the show - again.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pmJake the windbag is going to put his body in front of Bush’s to protect Bush from the will of the people. now that will be a sight to behold and smell.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pmWhen will Democrats learn. Only Bush knows the facts and only Bush knows what is relevant and according to the law. If congress cares about getting to the bottom of this issue then they should let Bush decide what is relevant information and what isn’t, what is fact and what isn’t and they should just trust that he is telling the god’s honest truth all the time. There doesn’t need to be any swearing in.
If Bush thinks this is working then he’s dumber than even the biggest leftie could have imagined.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pmThe people’s representatives do not have the power to force testimony from the President or his senior advisors. Sorry. You lose.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmCriminal Law and Constitutional Law are certainly not the forte of any of our resident trolls but we’ve come to understand how profoundly mentally handicapped they are.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmPoor little Frat Boy Bush. He’s being put on the spot.
His cadre of ReichWingNutBootLickers are no longer in power. Now he might, just might, have to face up to some of the many illegal things he’s done.
ITMFA now!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmACCOUNTABILITY… YES!!! that’s what Congress must demand from Bush… no weasling out of it this time… Bush is pissed because he knows this is serious business… by all accounts, he expected the offer to be accepted… so sorry to disappoint you, Mr. President…
there is no “impasse” to speak of… Bush doesn’t really have a say in what Congress does here… years of Republicant corruption and the ‘06 election are coming home to roost…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmDude, I wouldn’t even have to break a sweat knock your dumb ass over.
Next thing you would hear from Jake:
“I’ve got knocked over by a liberal and I can’t get up.”
March 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmJoke, you’re not kicking butt, you’re kissing Bush’s ass. What makes you think that the President can’t be arrested? NO ONE is above the law in the United States. If you’re really 75, then you should know better, which is why I don’t believe you for a second. From your words and beliefs, you’ve got to be a Young Republican. You don’t have enough ‘life’ (or anything else) under your belt.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:49 pm#127 Jake:
Do you honestly think the President of the United States can be arrested? Even Ken Starr agreed he could not do that!
This isn’t the first time I’ve had to admonish you on this type of thing. I never said any such thing, nor did I suggest it. I told you before to learn to read. Now I think you’re just too stoopid to read….
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 6:49 pmPS: it’s not partisan… Republicants are calling for Gonzales to resign… nice try there, Bushie!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:49 pmAre those (in laws) ur cousins too?
Comment by Flaco
I KNOW you don’t have the nerve to bring up inbreeding. That is the Republican base!!!!:D
March 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pmArne re: # 158
Article I - Legislative branch
Article II - Executive branch
Is your Constitution numbered differently?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pmJake, a King cannot be arrested. An Emperor can’t be arrested. A “Supreme Leader” or possibly a “Dear Leader” probably cannot be arrested. A Dictator is usually above arrest. I’m guessing the Pope cannot technically be arrested.
But a President? You need to go back to high school history and civics, man. This is the U.S. of A. Just because it hasn’t happened doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pmI vill ignore your subpoenas, you swinehunds.
Bush heard suddenly speaking in a heavy German accent.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pmZooey sez:
Considering his recent attempt at humor (rape joke), I commend you for even acknowledging the slimeball, Zooey. You’re clearly the better mammal here.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pmPeople like the Trolls who frequent this site are the source of what’s wrong in Amerika today.
They are the ones who live in fear.
They are the ones who try to spread their fear.
They are the ones who do not ever want to be held accountable for any potential wrongdoing.
They are the ones who have brought this country to it’s knees.
They are the ones who have enabled the Chief Enabler Himself.
No accountability? That’s what’s wrong with Trolls and ReichWingNutBushBots.
ITMFA now!!!
March 20th, 2007 at 6:50 pmveritas:
The President cannot be arrested! You fool.
Comment by Jake — March 20, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
“If the president does it, that means it’s not illegal.” - Richard Nixon
March 20th, 2007 at 6:51 pmJake hates America. Why?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:51 pmComment by katy #137
Thanks for that switchboard number katy…
…I called my state Senators AND Congressman Conyer’s staff person Cynthia…
…and left messages…
…BOY do I feel GREAT!
…I LOVE Democracy…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:52 pmSorry. You lose.
Comment by Jake
You are the worst American since George W. Bush et al.
Understand that, old man.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:52 pmsome great ideology you guys should start to follow. Things like how Jesus said you should treat your fellow man.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
What was that one story about log in Spudgies eye?
Ideology is that word in the bible?
U might be thinking of Marx, Lenin, not sure?
March 20th, 2007 at 6:52 pmFlaco: “Hey u guys bible scholars too wow!!!”
That’s right! And, here’s one of my favorites. You could do worse than read it and consider:
“And when you pray, be not like the hypocrites, who affect to pray standing in the assemblies, and at the corners of the streets, that men may observe them. Indeed, I say to you, they have received their reward. But you, when you would pray, retire to your closet; and having shut the door, pray to your Father; and your Father, to whom, though he is unseen himself, nothing is secret, will recompense you.â€
-Matthew
March 20th, 2007 at 6:52 pmIf Jake really is 75, well. Just give him time…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:54 pmFor those interested…it is now 6:55 pm Eastern Daylight Time here in DC….the Senate Committee on the Judiciary number 202- 224- 7703 has been busy for the last 18 minutes.
Contrary to Jake speaking about things (once again) of which he has no knowledge, the Committee is still there. Try getting trough. Leave a message asking Senator Leahy to subpeona the bastards before sunrise tomorrow.
March 20th, 2007 at 6:54 pmZooey; f*ck arresting Bush, I’m thinking guillotine. You know, King Louie and Marie Antoinette getting shortened, after the revolution. Time to storm the Bastille.
Still having some bus-lag, so I bid y