The U.S. Attorney document gap.
By on Mar 20th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
The U.S. Attorney document gap.
“In DOJ documents that were publicly posted by the House Judiciary Committee, there is a gap from mid-November to early December in e-mails and other memos, which was a critical period as the White House and Justice Department reviewed, then approved, which U.S. attorneys would be fired while also developing a political and communications strategy for countering any fallout from the firings.”
UPDATE: McClatchy and the AP reprint some noteworthy emails from the documents.
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Is the gap 18 minutes long by chance?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:01 pmOf course there’s a gap. Wouldn’t want anybody to find out any truth…
March 20th, 2007 at 10:05 pmThe DOJ and WH are incompetent, but they’re not stupid. I suspect this is precisely the same period of time they’ll try to prevent having anyone testify under oath to Congress about.
The irony here is, if they just came out and told the truth, they’d get shelled for it, but nowhere near as much as what they’re going through now.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmIs ANYONE actually surprised that the Criminal-In-Cheif did not provide all the information to the Congress?????
Is he trying to re-live the days of the Iraq war push?????
Can we just draw names for the firing squad and get it over with already?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI don’t even need to draw the connection the Nixon. I like this article. It draws the connection to evil past incidences by itself. Most of Bush’s stuff requires us to guide the line…
March 20th, 2007 at 10:07 pmnothing to see here, move along.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:07 pm“Is the gap 18 minutes long by chance?
Comment by JPV — March 20, 2007 @ 10:01 pm”
I don’t get it…… What do you mean?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:08 pmDocument gap, document gap, document gap, document gap document gap. This is docutainment.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:09 pm18 minutes long gap is from Contact, right?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI don’t get it…… What do you mean?
Comment by RemoveBush
Watergate tapes.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pmNothing to see here libs. Move on and get a life. Investingating Bush will do the country no good. In fact, we might lose the war in Iraq if you distract the President.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:12 pmWas it 18 minutes long?
Cheers,
March 20th, 2007 at 10:14 pmFirehead,
Did you get the chair massage from the people in the mall?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pm#9 ForTruth
Rosemary Woods, Nixon’s secretary, claimed to be responsible for an 18 minute gap in a key portion of one of the Watergate tapes. Said she accidentally leaned on the mute button or something.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:15 pmCongress does need to tread lightly here. Most people aren’t terribly upset about this. If they drag it out for even a few more weeks, folks are going to wonder why they’re wasting all this time.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pmyou heard firehead. Let’s move on and get this Nationalsozialisten going.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pmso,… after 2 huge dumps they hang onto the dingleberries …..or vise versa
March 20th, 2007 at 10:16 pm#11 flamebrain
Quick! Somebody burn the Constitution! We might lose the war if we don’t!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:17 pmThank you Chimpeach for that.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pmThe “18 minute gap” comment is referencing the Watergate Tapes. We already had a new version of The Saturday Night Massacre with Carol Lam, and now an 18 minute gap. Lets hope for an impeachment proceeding too!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pm#15,
March 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pm%30 does not equate to “most people”.
That firehead — what a satirist!
It takes a special ear for language to be able to pick up on the distinctive cadence and obliviousness of the wingnut mentality, and then take it that extra mile into absurdity. Firehead does this consistently.
Firehead, I salute you! Keep up the great comedy!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:20 pmHmm. I’ve seen this movie before. Back in 1974 I believe.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:21 pmyou guys have to stop this! If we get distracted then the terrorists will come over here and we will all be speaking, um, speaking, um, well, speaking something other than english!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:24 pmIn fact, we might lose the war in Iraq if you distract the President.
Comment by firehead
Then nobody better throw a ball of yarn into the Oval Office.
Who is advising the White House to release all these documents? I forgot his name. There is an article in Vanity Fair that goes into this guy’s history back to Nixon. Could it be he is advising the White House to release just enough to hang themselves like a true American would in order to protect America. He was around to advise Noxon to do what he did when he got into a pickle also. Insider? Hmmm? Leading villianous idiots to their own slaughter?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:24 pmmeanwhile, I continue to pray that those who know of wrongdoing in the Bush Administration continue to come forward with testimony and evidence.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:25 pmDennis Kucinich is asking Americans if we will support a call for impeachment:
http://kucinich.us/node/3696
March 20th, 2007 at 10:26 pm#21 - avert,
What percentage of the public do you think are really up in arms about this???
One poll I saw only had 1/3 believing Gonzo should resign. That’s not overwhelming.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI saw a poll that showed 62% think Gonzo should resign. And then on MSNBC they said only 42% were concerned. But then again, how were these polls worded?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmNothing to see here libs. Move on and get a life. Investingating Bush will do the country no good. In fact, we might lose the war in Iraq if you distract the President.
Comment by firehead — March 20, 2007
INVESTIGATE this TRAITOR coxucker PUNK of a “president”!!!
Getting rid of Bush is the enema that the USA needs.
Distract???
Yeah, he’s in the process of choosing his two books for his “library”!
LOSE the war??? Already LOST, Sparky. Unless YOU get your azz to Iraq NOW….
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmIn DOJ documents that were publicly posted by the House Judiciary Committee, there is a gap from mid-November to early December in e-mails and other memos
Nixon had an 18-minute gap.
Chimpy has an 18-day gap.
^_^
March 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pmDrSinker, that is probably true, but how many people actually pay attention to politics? Virtually nobody where I work even knows who Alberto Gonsalez is.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pmSo I take my message back. You are probably correct that it could all be forgotten quickly.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:33 pmFred F. Fielding. That’s the guy. Does anyone have any opinion on this guy. He took over Miers’ position and from what I read he is the only White House Staff Member that is a solid D.C.er and not one of his Texas “yes sir boss†guys.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:37 pmNothing to see here libs. Move on and get a life. Investingating Bush will do the country no good. In fact, we might lose the war in Iraq if you distract the President. –firehead
Clearing brush at the pig farm will surely solve the problem, right farthead? Maybe he should go to latin America again, that will surely win the war, maybe take a flying leap off a Segway, or perhaps crash on his mountainbike?
What do you think farthead?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:38 pmrSinker, that is probably true, but how many people actually pay attention to politics? Virtually nobody where I work even knows who Alberto Gonsalez is. Comment by avert
I find that pretty hard to believe after all Ashcroft pretty much quit after asked to sign off on some wiretap stuff [Ashcroft was perhaps smarter than Alberto [amazing]] and and Alberto was his replacement,,,then again people are more concerned with Idle American.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:42 pmGosh, less than forthcoming? Obviously, an oversight which the WH will correct when they become aware of it. . . . or could every turned over rock lead to more questions?
March 20th, 2007 at 10:46 pmWhat percentage of the public do you think are really up in arms about this???
One poll I saw only had 1/3 believing Gonzo should resign. That’s not overwhelming.
And yet, when we say that 62% of Americans want us out of Iraq in a year, you say polls don’t matter.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:48 pmNo kidding? A gap? How Nixonesque!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:50 pmRosemary Woods, Nixon’s secretary, claimed to be responsible for an 18 minute gap in a key portion of one of the Watergate tapes. Said she accidentally leaned on the mute button or something.
Comment by chimpeach
Jeeze, you guys are all really young, aren’t you? There was a famous photo of Woods demonstrating how she could have “accidentally” deleted the critical 18 minutes while she was transcribing the tape. The subsequent contortions necessary to do that while answering the phone looked like an ad for Twister.
Y’all do know what Twister is, right? Or have I aged myself yet again.
March 20th, 2007 at 10:52 pm!!! no time to check for sure… just remembered this!!!
kos or TPM has the documents available to anyone to please read through them and let them know of any worthwhile finds…
should be fun for someone!
g’nite!
March 20th, 2007 at 10:55 pmY’all do know what Twister is, right? Or have I aged myself yet again.
Comment by gummitch
I hate that when it happens. My first thought was the 18 minute gap in the Nixon tapes. Oy.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:12 pmHere is what I wrote on Kucinich’s site…..
I have not figured out why this conversation has taken so long….
Here is just a few of the items that I KNOW are crimes that warrant Impeachment.
1) Neglegant for the murder of 3000 Americans. Possibly a participant into the actual events of the day. Either they Made it happen on purpose (MIHOP), or they Let it happen on purpose (LIHOP). How can a terrorist organization threaten Air Force One using Coded language??? AF1 was threatened by coded language that day, so to me that was a warning that Bush better just sit back and do nothing which makes that a crime in it’s self. It also shows that some faction of our government was involved and Bush did not do anything about that. (TREASON)
2) Fabrication of information presented to the Congress! Decieving Congress is a Felony crime! This ALONE is enough to Impeach!
3) Redirecting funds authorized for Afganistan for pre Iraq combat. Only the Congress can distribut funds, and the diverting of funds was a FEDERAL Crime.
4) Warrant less Wiretapping! Bush admitted on TV that he authorized it. In one case, months before the information was released to the public, he was stating that “we always get a warrant”. Then when the information came out it was “FISA was written in 1978….. this is 200x”. Clear and DIRECT admission that he broke the law out right and without regard for the law.
5) Conspiring to spy on Americans before 9/11. Documents revealed from the lawsuit against AT&T show that Bush started this path only 3 weeks into his office. Which shows the fact that this was PLANNED long before the act, which makes it a conspiracy against the people of the US. And with this spying on Americans already in full swing before 9/11, Bush could not prevent 9/11 because his focus was not on terrorists but rather his political enemies. (Another FELONY).
6) Outing of a NOC. Effectively destroying YEARS of tax payers dollars and who knows how many operatives in the field. The public may never know if any of those agents have been captured, torchered, or killed after the outing.
7) Obstruction of justice. Bush prevented the investigation from moving forward by ensuring that the attorney did not get the information needed to perform the investigation. He destroyed emails and other documents that could have been used to determine in a more reasonable time frame who actually destroyed an intelligence network.
I could go on, but I believe there has been more than enough crimes committed by this administration to have them placed in jail years ago. I doubt that America would hickup one bit if the Congress Impeached this Criminal and showed by FACTS what has been going on without a shadow of a doubt.
I ENCOURAGE the Congress to File Article of Impeachment Immeadiatly….. I have been writting to Congress for years, and have even recently written to Pelosi and my rep. Carl Levin in the senate to forward my demand to Pelosi.
DO IT NOW!
March 20th, 2007 at 11:15 pmThe similarities are striking, aren’t they? It’s like “deja vu all over again.”
“Even after Richard Nixon’s secret war in Cambodia became known, the president persisted in deception. “Publicly, we say one thing,” he told aides. “Actually, we do another.” Newly declassified documents from the Nixon years shed light on the Vietnam War, the struggle with the Soviet Union for global influence and a president who tried not to let public and congressional opinion get in his way.” -The Associated Press, 11/16/2005
March 20th, 2007 at 11:18 pmY’all do know what Twister is, right? Or have I aged myself yet again.
Comment by gummitch
Wasn’t that a Rock Band, Twisted Sister? Kidding, I am still trying to get over my head injuries from those Jarts
Heeelooooo MZ! =)
March 20th, 2007 at 11:18 pm#11 “we might lose the war in Iraq”
Do you see a possible scenario in which we win the war in Iraq?? If so, please enlighten the Pentagon, which has been fighting this war longer than WW2 and still can’t see daylight.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:22 pmHeeelooooo MZ! =)
Comment by Zep Tepi
Helloooo, ZT! :)
Oh my god, the deadly Jarts. I remember well the terror,
March 20th, 2007 at 11:24 pmTucker on Sen. Clinton: “[T]here’s just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary”
Limbaugh
Just an off-topic quote find at MediaMatters. I guess a strong woman would be castrating to an infintile balless boy-child like Tucker.
Not endorsing Hillary though. Wouldn’t pull that lever for the lottery.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:26 pmComment by gummitch — March 20, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
And Cheney accidentally backed that shredding truck up to his residence, and the wind blew and papers accidentally flew out of the file cabinet and into the shredder. Well the whole country know the truck was there, I guess he should have to prove that no important papers were shredded.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:31 pmOh my god, the deadly Jarts. I remember well the terror,
Comment by Zooey
Yeh between those and that damn water wiggle I almost didn’t make it to adulthood. Who was the sadisitic SOB that invented that crap anyway?
March 20th, 2007 at 11:31 pmY’all do know what Twister is, right? Or have I aged myself yet again.
Comment by gummitch
You mean Twizzlers, the red licorice candy?
Just kidding, I have shoes older than you.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:34 pm#28 DrSinker
What percentage of the public do you think are really up in arms about this???
One poll I saw only had 1/3 believing Gonzo should resign. That’s not overwhelming.
Yes, it’s best not to pursue charges of corruption and obstruction of federal investigations if the public isn’t leading the way. In fact, it’s best not to attempt anything worthwhile if the public isn’t really fired up about it.
With all due respect, I think your instincts are way off the mark on this one.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:35 pmOff topic but funny-
March 20th, 2007 at 11:37 pmAnybody else hear how the Governator Schwartzeneger (sic) bitch slapped Limbaugh today and said he was irrelevent.
The missing mails… It’s not surprising and it actually makes the WH look worse. Nixon stepped down even with his missing minutes and this administration has more scandalous activity on its’ plate than he ever did.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:38 pmMaybe this is why Karl’s ass is so wide. Someone should call in the federal protologist and see what he’s hiding.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:40 pmYeh between those and that damn water wiggle I almost didn’t make it to adulthood. Who was the sadisitic SOB that invented that crap anyway?
Comment by Zep Tepi — March 20, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Water wiggle? Slip and Slide or different?
Zooey Jarts? Lawn Darts?
March 20th, 2007 at 11:40 pmYeh between those and that damn water wiggle I almost didn’t make it to adulthood. Who was the sadisitic SOB that invented that crap anyway?
Comment by Zep Tepi
Water wiggle! Holy crap! :D
I think it was that witch in Hansel & Gretel. She got hired by the toy companies way back then — she specialized in population control.
Oy, my Tylenol PM is kicking in.
I’m sure I’ll sleep tonight…..something different.
Goodnight, Zep & all!
March 20th, 2007 at 11:41 pmhoo wee! … i hope you all get to watch the daily show…
jon’s guest is JOHN BOLTON… some rather fascinating insight…
my god, they really do believe in what they are doing…
it’s all about keeping/getting/maintaining absolute power for/of
the president… total disregard of the Constitution… it’s irrelavent…
or so it seems…
jon was in great form the WHOLE show…
willie nelson on colbert… see ya…
March 20th, 2007 at 11:43 pmAt any point during this gap do you suppose the name of JFK’s real killer was divulged?
March 20th, 2007 at 11:46 pm#51 Zep Tepi
Yeh between those and that damn water wiggle I almost didn’t make it to adulthood. Who was the sadisitic SOB that invented that crap anyway?
Anyone remember Gilbert Chemistry Sets? What kid wouldn’t want a big box of laboratory glassware, alcohol lamp, and lots of toxic chemicals to mix together? My older brother got one for Christmas. It even had some radioactive materials in it.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:47 pmNo end to the Bush Regime baloney, unless Dubya and Dicky are forced to resign or are impeached. America cannot survive 21 more months of Bush acting retarded in the White House.
March 20th, 2007 at 11:58 pmThe trolls must have passed out from lack of oxygen by now. They will be back in the morning, though.
March 21st, 2007 at 12:05 am“The trolls must have passed out from lack of oxygen by now. They will be back in the morning, though.”
Naw, Verbal, they just refuse to work more than a twelve-hour day unless they get an extra juice box.
March 21st, 2007 at 12:14 amFor Zooey:
To one of the die-hards that has diligently posted here without fail…. the former Zookeeper, Zooey. We’ve treaded the floods. We’ve withstood the neocon onslaught. We’ve sought the truth and demanded the same. We’ve endured endless, repetitive right-wing talking points that have never stood the test of evidence. Thank you!
You’ve been here at least as long as I have, probably longer, I really don’t remember, but I’ve always appreciated your posts. Thanx for taking the time.
March 21st, 2007 at 12:14 amWe are going into the 7th year of LIES, DECEIT, DISHONESTY - how can we assume this administration is now on the up and up on this issue? It is time to get on with testimonies under OATH - (like they did with Clinton for what?) then start frog marching these thugs to where they belong.
March 21st, 2007 at 12:24 amAS THE BRITISH HAVE SIGNS WITH BIG BOLD LETTERS AT ALL THEIR RAILWAY STATIONS:
MIND THE GAP
So should we in America MIND THE GAP and BRING CHIMPya and ALL OF Bushland Uber Allies and Their IN-Justice Department TO HEEL FOR THEIR SHITTY ACTIVITIES, THE SHIT-HEELS!!!!!
March 21st, 2007 at 12:47 am#59 I was dissaspointed that instead of beating around the bush, Stewart didnt just directly bring up the “advise and consent” role of congress in appointing people.. but that might have set Bolton off, being seen as a jab since he was obviously unnable to get senate approval.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:33 amThese guys really and truly beleive in an executive monarchy, its scary..
You can bet on Impeachment. You can bet on Bush/Cheney resignation. You can bet this entire Attorney General Firings is a script for the Impeachment/Resignation scenario. You can bet that the corrupt global elite who have hijacked the USA are throwing us the heads of Bush and Cheney to satisfy the blood thirst of the American public which has become to knowledgeable of the inner workings of a military/banking/media/drug syndicate which risks losing everything unless they quiet the fast growing 911 Truth movement which finally has the goods on these animals. Unless they stop the surge of Truth, all their globalist wet dreams will be over. It seems they flew too close to the sun on 911.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:08 amIs Rose Mary Woods back from the grave and working in the Justice Department now?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:11 amYou liberals are trying to destroy that GD piece of paper, that constitution..oh wait that was us. You liberals will start reading everyones mail..Oh us again, you liberals are trying to create a monarchy..oh my bad, us again, you liberals are obstructing justice..damn, us again. You damn liberals are fascists..damn us again. You damn liberals want to tap our phones without warrants..damnit, my side again.
Crap, you moonbats, (that’s all I can think off) you immoral, wait, that was us again. You damn liberals want to reinstate habeas corpus!
I will fight you to the death (but I wont go to Iraq) from my keyboard!! I am going to bore you to death with talking points from Rush! I dont care what our guy Arnold said about Rush being irrelavent! Our guy Armold is not…oh wait, those are my side.
Ann Coulter says your Godless just as most of the conservative writers are!! Oh crap, I did it again.
You damn liberals..I got nothing.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:44 amThis sounds like a sequel to the famous 17 minute gap in a critical Watergate tape. Watch, there will have been a security breach that allowed this data to be destroyed. I wonder if the backups have also been destroyed. This is now creeping over into the world of criminal activity.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:45 amYou’ve been here at least as long as I have, probably longer, I really don’t remember, but I’ve always appreciated your posts. Thanx for taking the time.
Comment by Mr. Evil
Thank you, Mr Evil, I’ve always appreciated your posts, too. A lot has happened these last few years, and most consistently ignored. Truly unforgiveable.
Silly me, I always thought you were Evil. :D
March 21st, 2007 at 11:08 amThe U.S. Attorney Document Gap…
“In DOJ documents that were publicly posted by the House Judiciary Committee, there is a gap from mid-November to early December in e-mails and other memos, which was a critical period as the White House and Justice Department reviewed, then approved,…
March 21st, 2007 at 11:51 am[…] have discovered an 18-day gap in the 3,000 documents on the U.S. Attorney purge released this week by the Justice Department. The gap extends from mid-November to early December, […]
March 21st, 2007 at 1:58 pmHey I know where those emails are! Check Sandy Berger’s pants or the dumpster where he hid all those ulta top secret docs. They are there I guarantee.
Oh wait, that was BJ Clinton’s cover up…never mind.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:29 pmchair massage
Interestingly, this was on CNN last week.
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