Boxer Slams Down Inhofe’s Global Warming Filibuster: ‘You Don’t Make The Rules Anymore’
Boxer Slams Down Inhofe’s Global Warming Filibuster: ‘You Don’t Make The Rules Anymore’
Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) has said Al Gore is “full of crap” and compared people who believe in global warming to “the Third Reich.” During today’s Senate hearing, Inhofe used a considerable amount of time to attack Gore’s use of carbon offsets and try to convince him to sign a sham “energy ethics pledge.” (Find the real facts on Gore’s energy usage HERE and HERE.)
Inhofe asked Gore for his reaction, but then quickly cut him off saying Gore had taken up too much time. When Gore tried to go on, Inhofe repeatedly interrupted, adding, “I don’t want to be rude, but from now on, I’m going to ask you to respond…in writing.” Inhofe said Gore could respond verbally only if it was a “very brief response.”
Committee chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-CA) finally intervened. “Would you agree to let the Vice President answer your questions?” Inhofe said Gore could respond when he was done talking, but Boxer wouldn’t have it: “No, that isn’t the rule. You’re not making the rules. You used to when you did this. Elections have consequences. So I make the rules.” The hearing audience applauded loudly. Watch it:
Blog for Our Future has a round-up of bloggers’ reactions to Gore’s testimony.
UPDATE: Three more notable videos from Gore’s testimony today are HERE.
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That’s exactly why I like Boxer. She’s just nails. They showed her little takedown on CNN. Beautiful.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:11 pmYou go GIRL!!!
…putting inbred scum in their places…
…the old fashioned way…
March 21st, 2007 at 6:12 pmSlammed by a WOman hahahahahhaahahaa
March 21st, 2007 at 6:12 pmWhen I watched the Roberts and Aliton confirmation hearings, Biden et al were allowed to use up their entire time talking themselves. Why the big change now, Boxer?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:12 pmGood for Boxer. Gore has alot of knowledge. Inhole needs to resign IMO. The world is very close to the tipping point. I just hope they hurry up these hearings and move towards a solution AND implement it ASAP. We need to drop our emissions by at least 30%. Once we have a plan in place,we then need to move towards forcing China, India, and Russia to also reduce their emissions to at least come close to the EU and USA standards. Like I said, we FIRST need to get our hosue in order.
I hope they can pass a bill stating we are planning at least a 30% decrease. Furthermore, I truly hope they choose an alternative and implement it ASAP. We need to work towards getting an alterative available at all US gas stations within the next 2 years. Once we the alterative available at most every gas station, we need to move to increase the tax on all gas. Use that money for more research into inproving alternatives and saving more rainforests/old growth forests. Again, as soon as we have set reductions plans, we need to force China, India, and Russia to comply or the world needs to move to fine every single export from those countries until they get on board.
This problem will not go away and the EU’s and the USA potential reductions are a waste of time without getting those 3 countries to join us.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:14 pmAs with any religion, environmentalism’s Messiah is beyond reproach. Look at the Kwazy Kos Kids response (do I even have to give a profanity warning) to discovering that Al Gore uses as much energy in his mansion (occupied by two people) in one day as the entire continent of Africa uses in a year. First, they worry only on how this information was made public, then they deny it truthfulness, then they completely miss the point and wonder what Drudge’s or the group that did the report’s energy bill is, and then they assert that Gore has done more for global warming than any other person so he’s allowed to waste energy all he wants because he earned it. And, really, isn’t sacrificing modern conveniences for the sake of the environment only for little people and not one as magnificent as Al Gore?
Plus, Gore purchases “carbon offsets”… the plenary indulgence of the environmentalism religion. Yes, Gore does urge others to change their lifestyles while living extravagantly himself, but he has the money to purchase “carbon offsets,” so the liberals don’t see any hypocrisy in that.
Maybe–and I’m just going out on a limb here–those who lack basic logic skills should stay away from issues of science.
I just realized something: Aren’t I basically calling Gore a chickenhawk? I’m pretty much arguing against Gore’s belief in global warming by pointing out that he doesn’t believe in it enough to change his own lifestyle. It is faulty reasoning–one’s argument can easily be correct or incorrect regardless of his or her own actions–but the left-wing loves faulty reasoning so perhaps it our duty to point out that Al Gore is an environmental chickenhawk. We should ignore anything he has to say about global warming until he signs up to fight in Iraq… or something.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:17 pmR2, well spake.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:18 pmridiculous thinkprogress.org, did they report it when Democrats were interrupting individuals they were investigationg during the Plame Senate hearings? did they? and this was just on Friday….or Democrats interrupting Republicans when they were asking questions to Plame that would show that Plame is but a pathetic partisan liberal hack?
of course not…..
the sad part is that you have this poor saps from the left that come and read this thread from thinkpropgress.org and take it as the word of god
once again, left wing hypocrites, if you are going to put this up, make sure you show how Democrats break the hearing rules….i know, i know asking Democrats to be true, honest and fair is too much to ask from them, but we can try, right?
thinkprogress, we should call this website lackofthinkingfromprogressives.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:18 pmThat’s gotta be tough for a southern republican man, to be put in his place by a woman. and the Comment by Boxer: “he {VP gore} knows the rules, here.” Priceless.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:19 pmWhat are the qualifications of Gore to speak on this topic before the U.S. Congress?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:19 pmI wonder why Jeebus didn’t save him from that humiliating moment.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:19 pmOklahomans should be ashamed of their idiotic senator. You know, global warming affects Oklahoma too. Why do you think the tornadoes that rip through your state are so vicious? Inhofe doesn’t give a shit about you, your families, or your state.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:20 pmR2 Great post, with the exception of the last sentence.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:20 pmWe can get the countries on board who are willing and set up an economic boycott against the rest until they comply.
This is a national, nay, global imperative.
Patrice, what are your qualifications for exposing yourself on this site as the buffoon that you are?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:21 pmThe difference, jake,
is that they did not ask a question and then cut off the response because it was not what they wanted to hear.
If Inhofe wants to pontificate, then he should not ask for input simply to cut it off.
He was rude and offensive, plain and simple.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:22 pmIs Boxer a woman? Ummm…interesting science project.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:22 pmHe was invited,and he went past the second grade, unlike you Patrick!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:22 pmOuch. Given what a Neanderthal Inhofe is, getting smacked down like this in public by a woman has got to sting.
I don’t know why the GOP keeps him on this committee. He’s such an embarassment. Plus, this is the man who’s arguably the dumbest member of the Senate now that Rick Santorum’s gone.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:23 pmPatrick1 and howsad……….ha ha ha
March 21st, 2007 at 6:24 pmidiots. Is that the best you trolls can do? Come on. Really? Guess the trolls are slipping right along with their fat right wing bosses……………….good to see. People see through you …don’t you realize this?
I’m asking what the qualifications of the enviromental chickenhawk, Al Gore, to speak on this topic before the U.S. Congress? It seems that he has none.
He should stick to topics he knows, like covering for a reprobate, taking money from the Chi-Coms and losing elections.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:24 pmI’m really intelligent, and I know that Biden is a Senator and Boxer is Speaker of the House of Representatives, and so therefore Boxer couldn’t possibly limit Biden’s time. I also know that the Roberts and Alito (not Aliton) confirmation hearings were done under a Republican majority Senate.
I am not a total phucktard. Really.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:25 pmwhat are your qualifications for exposing yourself on this site as the buffoon that you are?
Comment by RUCerious
about a month of being the buffoon he is.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:25 pmComment by howsad — March 21, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Why didn’t you bring this up the other day then. Why do you have to change the subject on every thread to they did it to.
Its the same on every thread.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:25 pmI was always happy to vote for her. I’m even happier from now.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:26 pmInternational qualifications as Global warming isn’t just a US problem.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:26 pmNow to Boxer ( sweet)
# 9 Your right it must be tough but that’s what happens when your wrong.
I like the respect Boxer gave VP Gore. If Bush hadn’t fixed the elected Gore would have been President. Gore served 8 years as VP I guess some try to forget that.
# 10 Global warming is a problem as you notice the weather changes in the East and all over. Like the Titanic some have to let the boat sink still saying nothings wrong then when their dying they look like idiots saying why didn’t someone tell us, they did you didn’t listen.
Bravo! Elections due indeed have consequences, as we now finally are starting to see … you ROCK GIRL!
and just what in the hell are the people in OK thinking? I mean, a drunk monkey would be less of an embarrassment
March 21st, 2007 at 6:26 pmWhat are the qualifications of Gore to speak on this topic before the U.S. Congress?
Comment by Patrick1 — March 21, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
What qualifications are required?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:26 pm#4 First, this was not a Supreme Court confirmation hearing. Second, even then, in the SC hearings, the nominees were never bullied and told he had to answer all questions in writing and would not be allowed to speak.
The sooner we can get past the denial stage and start taking meaningful action, the better it will be for the world 50 and 100 years from now. The USA needs to lead the way, especially since we are the biggest polluters. In addition, we need to lead the way, because America is historically a world leader in technological innovation. I want America to be America again.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:27 pmIs Boxer a woman? Ummm…interesting science project.
Comment by Patrick1 — March 21, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Obviously too much woman for you. Scared?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:28 pmGood thing Crazy Al Gore lost in 2000, or we’d probably have had a major terrorist attack, and a nuclear North Korea, and a massive debt, and probably some totally inept response to a major natural disaster (stupid Dimocrats), and we’d probably have ceded East Asian influence to China and Russia, and prolly have gotten bogged down in some stupid military adventurism (like Kosovo only much worse, with over 100,000 troops and 30,000+ permanent injuries and deaths, and no exit strategy).
You dumbass liberals. Al Gore woulda been the worst president ever.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:28 pmDemocrats interrupting Republicans when they were asking questions to Plame that would show that Plame is but a pathetic partisan liberal hack?
comment by howsad
Howdesperate you must be if you’re still trying to twist Plame’s covert status, as confirmed by the current CIA director who was appointed by your hero Dumbya Bush.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:28 pmIs Boxer a woman? Ummm…interesting science project.
Comment by Patrick1 —
You are an A**, Patrick.
Your response was to attack a woman’s appearance?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:30 pmPerhaps you’d like to be judged on your “manhood?”
I hope the good people of OK will wake up to reality someday and quit electing people based on a bumper sticker level of understanding…
March 21st, 2007 at 6:30 pmWOOOHOOOOO!!! Inhofe gets bitch-slapped by Boxer. YOU GO GIRL!!!
“YOU DON’T MAKE THE RULES. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES”,
March 21st, 2007 at 6:30 pmWhat are the qualifications, I said. For example, when James Dobson speaks about evolution, it’s clear that he has smashing and impeccable fashion tastes. Al Gore has none. James Dobson has pierced genitalia. Al Gore has none (or if he does, ewww). Case closed, dirty hippies.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:30 pmWho is the evil Mr. Clean sitting behind Inhofe and glaring at Boxer? He looks like a thug/bodyguard from Blackwater.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:31 pmYou Stalinist libs will pay for your cruel, fascist, partisan ways.
Republicans take the White House, back the Senate and House in 08. You punks have done nothing for our country but praise Chicken Little like Al Snore.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:31 pmWhat qualifications are required?
Comment by shane — March 21, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Apparently, none.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:31 pmIs Boxer a woman? Ummm…interesting science project.
Comment by Patrick1
Is Patsy a human being, or maybe just a neoCON-programmed robot?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pmThe trolls must really be scared of Gore. They have been all over the two treads about him and global warming today.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pmOr maybe the news is so bad for them on the other threads they’re afraid to go there.
Either way they’re acting like a bunch of wimps.
And Rove must have told them that Gore could not be beat as a Presidential Candidate. After all he wasn’t beat the last time, just robbed.
I think I just had a Senatorgasm. You go, girl!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pmPatrick1:
Al is quite well educated in the matter, he’s had many years to study and collect data and put it into a movie for non-scientists to understand. Now you spew debunked talking points, flat out lies, what authority do you have to say anything?
So Patrick1, still supporting the tobacco industries claim that smoking is safe? Or perhaps asbestos?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pm“Boxer is Speaker of the House of Representatives, and so therefore Boxer couldn’t possibly limit Biden’s time.”
Goodness. No wonder you are confused about how our government works. Barbara Boxer is one of the 2 senators from the great state of California, and is now the Chair of the Environmental Committee (thank goodness). This was a senate hearing. Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pmThink Progress is doing an EXCELLENT job getting the facts and making them available to us. The fact that they do such an excellent job is what seems to provoke the neo-conservative hate-mongers into these discussion threads. I also think it is great they allow anyone to post, what could be more democratic? Any thinking person can easily see right though someone like Patrick1’s banal rhetoric, and those who are dumb enough to “drink the kool aid” as it were, probably aren’t bright enough to find the site to even read his comments. I just want to say THANK YOU THINK PROGRESS for starting to replace the dwindling 4th estate, and brining some truth back to media. You are a real breath of fresh air. You clean concise website is very professional as is the way you present every issue. Keep up the great work, maybe there is some hope for our great nation after all!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:32 pmDid you catch inhofe calling gore senator? When he cuts him off he calls him senator as does Boxer. Later Boxer returns to calling him Vice President. Can you imagine if anyone called Bush Govenour Bush? That is a major insult by both of them.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:33 pmBush cultists react to Boxers strong control of a committee hearing: “Boo hoooo, waaaaa, not fair! That pushy little woman kicked our crackpot’s ass! Waaaaa!”
March 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pmThe Jihad will solve the problems of Glbal Warming. We will exterminate Christians, Jews and Hindus! That will leave on us Muslims and our Leftist allies to create Allah’s Paradise on Earth!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pmtrueblue:
Yeah, and Mrs. Alito wasn’t crying real tears either right? Ask, and you shall receive:
SPECTER: And, Senator Biden, you’re recognized for up to 20 minutes, as you have requested. And if you go a little more, my gavel will stay put.
BIDEN: Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’ll try not to.
Judge, I heard the chairman — and I happened to be doing something on Darfur. And I was in the conference room and I heard the chairman say that — which I agree; he and I have talked about this — nominees tend to answer as many questions as they think they have to in order to get confirmed. And I would say that that’s been the case with all nominees, basically, since Judge Bork.
I’d also add another, I think, truism that’s developed is they tend to answer controversial questions in direct proportion to how much they think the public is likely to agree with them.
And it all goes to, kind of, a central point here is: What is the public entitled to know about what you think, or what anyone thinks, before they go on the court?
And I realize there’s this dynamic tension between your independence as a nominee, wand to be an independent justice, and answering questions.
But having said that, let me go to an area that I hope you’ll engage me in. And it goes to executive power.
I have had the dubious distinction, because of my role in the Judiciary Committee and on the Foreign Relations Committee, in the last three or four times forces have been used by a president, to be the guy in charge of — at least on my side of the aisle — drafting or negotiating the drafting of the authority to use force, whether it was President Clinton, before that President Bush and even before that the discussion back on Lebanon, with President Reagan, et cetera.
So it’s something I’ve dealt with a lot. Doesn’t mean I’m right about it, but I’ve thought a lot about it.
And now there is a school of thought that’s emerging within the administration that is making — not illegitimate — an intellectually thought-out claim that the power of the executive in times of war exceed that of what I would argue a majority of the constitutional scholarship has suggested.
BIDEN: And the fellow — a very bright guy — who is referred to as the architect of the president’s memorandum on the ability of the presidents to conduct military operations against terrorists and nations supporting them is Professor Yoo.
He’s written a book called “The Powers of War and Peace.” And he makes some claims that are relatively new among the constitutional scholars in his book. And he had urged, when he was at the administration, the president had these authorities.
For example, he says that, “The framing generation well understood that declarations of war were obsolete.” He goes on to say, “Given this context, it’s clear that Congress’ power to declare war does not constrain a president’s independent and plenary right, constitutional authority over the use of force.”
And he goes on and he argues, as you well know this argument — I mean, not from your court, just as an informed, intelligent man — there’s a great debate now of whether or not the administration’s internal position is correct. And that is, the president has the authority to go to war absent congressional authorization.
And it was a claim made by Bush I and then dropped. Bush I argued that the only reason the declare war provision is in the Constitution is to give the president the authority to go to war if the president didn’t want to. That was the claim made.
Similar claim made here, so I want to ask you a question.
Do you think the president has the authority to invade Iran tomorrow without getting permission from the people, from the United States Congress, absent him being able to show there’s an immediate threat to our national security?
ALITO: Well, that’s a question that I don’t think is settled by — the whole issue of the extent of the president’s authority to authorize the use of military force without congressional approval has been the subject of a lot of debate.
The Constitution divides the powers relating to making war between the president and the Congress. It gives Congress the power to declare war, and obviously that means something. It gives Congress the power of the purse, and obviously military operations can’t be carried out for any length of time without congressional appropriations. Congress is given the power to raise and support an Army, to maintain a Navy, to make the rules for governing the land and the naval forces.
The president has the power of the commander in chief. And I think there’s been general agreement and the Prize cases support the authority of the president to take military action on his own in the case of an emergency when there is not time for Congress to react.
BIDEN: Is that the deciding question, if the Congress does not have the time to act?
ALITO: Well, the Prize cases I think are read to go as far as to say that in that limited circumstance the president can act without congressional approval.
A lot of scholars say that what’s important as far as congressional approval is not the form, it’s not whether it’s a formal declaration of war or not, it’s whether there is authorization in one form or another.
The war powers resolution was obviously an expression of the view on the part of Congress…
BIDEN: If I can interrupt, Judge, since I’m not going to have much time.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/12/AR2006011201031.html
March 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pmHoly shit. The wrong-ring trolls must have hired a bunch of new temps. Same lame Rove-Limbaugh talking points, poorer spelling and worse logic too.
Please trolls, get back to school and get off the wingnut welfare dole.
-GSD
March 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pmWhat’s with this (bleep) of constantly referring to Vice-President Gore as Senator Gore?!?!?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pmThanks for reminding me shane. Gore is also an expert on trying to steal federal elections.
As for global warming he is as much an expert on the enviroment as a child who watches Tom and Jerry is an expert on rodent control.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:35 pm“Is Boxer a woman? Ummm…interesting science project.
Comment by Patrick1″
Third grade sexist attacks. Nice work. Patrick, care to comment on Phyllis Schlafley or Mary Cheney?
-GSD
March 21st, 2007 at 6:35 pmPatrick1~~
Why don’t you hang it up and go to Redstate, or AEI, where your heroes hang out, instead of just being a contrarian idiot on a progressive blog?! Are you paid to pass hours on this and other blogs? Get lost, dipshit!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:36 pm#21-Jake’s no Einstein,
Uh, Senator Boxer, representing the great state of California, is a Senator. Nancy Pelosi, a Representative from the great state of California, is a member of the US House of Representatives and currently holds the position of Speaker of the House.
So, I guess that you are a total phucktard after all. But at least you are a civil one.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:36 pmOkay, who educated Gore on this topic? What degree can he claim on climatology and from what acredited university?
From his electric bill he obviously can’t claim this as knowledged gained from experience.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:38 pmThe Jihad will solve Carbon emissions! With Israel, Europe and American Christians wiped out, they’ll be less pollution!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:38 pmwow, jake.
You showed me.
Biden interrupted.
Too bad Inhofe wouldn’t even LET Gore answer.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:40 pmfiredickhead; we are all aware of your intimacy with fascism. Squat lower when you read your Bible-Mein Kampf.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:41 pmI truly feel sorry for Patrick 1 and Sen. Inhofe and all of the other scientific illiterates in the world. It must stink to not understand a single thing about basic physical laws or even be able to do math beyond finger-counting.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:41 pmBarney still thinks his gun is loaded – that’s precious.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:42 pmAs for global warming he is as much an expert on the enviroment as a child who watches Tom and Jerry is an expert on rodent control.
Comment by Patrick1 — March 21, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
He’s more of an *expert* than you are – dum bass. What’s the difference between him and you? He’s citing the conclusions of the entire scientific community. You’re citing the *oil-industry*, that has a vested anti-science industry. You’re no different than the idiots that claimed Cigarettes didn’t cause cancer! You’re a useless tit, suckling greed, and stupidity.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:42 pmYou know what people? We’ve turned a corner. The little squeaks and farts coming out of the likes of trolls like Patrick1 need no longer be of concern. Their day is over. And we all basically know it. Maybe even a year ago people would be shaking their heads wondering how to deal with such idiots….and wondering why they say what they say? But now, the seriousness of the situation that our country (and the world) is in has shoved them aside. These trolls are like left over flys at a long ago abandoned picnic….annoying but they can no longer get under any really caring intelligent person’s skin, Why? Because their cause, which is self serving and stupid, is lost and is dishonest. Time to get to work and continue to reclaim our country and our Democracy. It is so obvious to more and more people every day.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:42 pmDeath to Israel and death to Evangelicals and Catholics!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pmLong live Islam!
Long live Progressives!
Allies to bring Allah’s paradise to Earth!
Patrick, what are YOUR scientific qualifications to challenge Gore’s accounts in this area?
If you have no degrees or credentials of any kind, then just say that it’s all your own opinion, with no factual basis whatsoever, no one will think the less of you for admitting this up front.
Even more sad for these pathetic trolls is that none of their whines, their self-pity, or any of their other petulant blather is or will do anything to reverse W and the GOP’s slide into the political abyss they started down election-wise last November
But hey, if the W trolls are so bound and determined to not only prove their unbounded willful ignorance, if they’re insistent on getting smacked around by their intellectual superiors, well, that’s what great about this country, and who am I, indeed, who is anyone to stop them from asserting their right to a daily rhetorical thrashing?
It’s all right to cry, trolls, really it is
March 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pmNancy’s the decider, ass-wipe.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pmjesus patty – are you actually trying to sound dumber, and more of a wannabe-bully, than that drug addict on the radio??
March 21st, 2007 at 6:44 pmPatrick1. Al Gore learned this stuff by reading non-fiction books. You might try it some time.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:44 pmIts funny when trolls only reply to threads where the can attack with lies and childish personal attacks… Trolls, please take this in the nicest way… if you hate America so much and hate the rule of law, and seem to hate virtually everything and everyone good and decent here… perhaps it would be better for you to just pack up and leave. I am sure there are many other countries where you can live and be hateful against America and all the good it stands for… We really do not need you here as you are helping further the problems we currently are working hard to fix. You continue to show that you hate America instead of working to make it better and are certainly not acting like adults by helping create solutions. Shame on you for attacking America and the good and decent people who love our country!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:46 pmNow I know, as I am sure Inhofe just learned, what a real, honest to goodness, genuine, ass kickin’, “bitch slap” is! WOW SENATOR BOXER you done good!
Jake, happy to see KKKarl sent your ExLax and that Patsy is over her latest PMS attack. You guys better cash your troll checks in a hurry ’cause there may be insufficient funds in the Bushco account real soon.
Trueblue, good work as usual. Missed you.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:46 pmThis Boxer is a clown and a half.
She only represents the moonbats in CA.
Feminazis say the darnedest things!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:47 pmGore is to trolls as Dennis Wilson was to Charlie and “the Familyâ€
March 21st, 2007 at 6:47 pmBeautiful slap down! The punk was left stuttering.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:47 pmHave you scientific geniouses realized that gloabl warming leads to an ice age. If the glaciers keep melting, the fresh water goes into the Atlantic. That slows the gulf stream and leads to a collapse in gloabl temperatures and Ice caps will cover Northern Europe and Northern America.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:48 pmThat’s why Al Gore is bunk. He just focuses on aspect Glabal warming, he doesn’t tell you the rest, a New Ice Age.
I’m really intelligent, and I know that Biden is a Senator and Boxer is Speaker of the House of Representatives, and so therefore Boxer couldn’t possibly limit Biden’s time. I also know that the Roberts and Alito (not Aliton) confirmation hearings were done under a Republican majority Senate.
I am not a total phucktard. Really.
Comment by Jake
Hmmmmm, and I always thought that Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House….
dulce est desipere in loco
March 21st, 2007 at 6:49 pmI gree Clyde. First class bitch slap.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:49 pmThank you, Clyde.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:49 pm*blush*
When Germany let the 3rd Reich take over during the 1930’s, there was no one to stop them.
When the US let the 4th Reich take over, it was only for 6 years before people demanded change. And when it came to putting those little wankers in their place, it was a woman who did it.
Wow! That’s got to sting.
ReichWingNuts: all bark and no teeth. Too bad they’ve sent over 3000 USA servicemen/women to their graves during those 6 years. Too bad civil liberties were taken away. Too bad citizens were illegally spied on. Too bad the 4th Reich wouldn’t help it’s own citizens in LA/MISS/ALA.
Ironic, isn’t it? Woman in US government are telling the 4th Reich to put their frightened tiny weenies back into their pants and to STFU!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:50 pm….and prolly have gotten bogged down in some stupid military adventurism (like Kosovo only much worse, with over 100,000 troops and 30,000+ permanent injuries and deaths, and no exit strategy).
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Comment by Patrick1 — March 21, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
Like the IRAQupation?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:50 pmwait,Rodan-are you saying that it’s better to wait for a problem to be so bad it can’t be fixed before you address it? do you support the war in Iraq?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:51 pmDana Rohrbacher says…
…”Alberto Gonzales has mishandled this and a number of other situations and should resign…he should go. But let me say that Bill clinton fired all 93 Us Attorneys when he took office. And Wolf the President has the right to fire these attorneys, they just handled it badly and brought down a firestorm that they didn’t have to have.”
Now lemme see if I get this right:
…the Preznit should fire Gonzales…
…who has done NOTHING wrong, just mishandled HOW he did NOTHING wrong…
…the Preznit has the RIGHT to fire these attorneys, but should FIRE Abu for doing what the Preznit has the RIGHT to do- because of the WAY he did it…
YEAH…
…these sombiches are hiding something…
…INVESTIGATE…
…til we can uncover the CRIMINALITY…
…it’s in there somewhere…
March 21st, 2007 at 6:52 pmActually, trueblue, I can keep going with that transcript — I was just providing an excert and the link — more important to my point was that Biden was allowed to speak himself the entire 20 minutes if he so chose.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:52 pmIt looks like Inhofe came not to debate the issue of global warming,but have in mind to lash at Al-Gore….words like ..’full of crap’…’Third Reich’ and interrupting Al Gore and arguing with Barbara Boxer.
Poor Inhofe is just frustrated that he lost the chairmanship of the committee.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:52 pmGringo Expat:
There’s a fake Jake on the threads, violating the Terms of Use agreement, of course.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:53 pmComment by Jamal — March 21, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
You’re funny. And soooo cute!!!
Kisses!!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:54 pmRoger_Roger, the alternative fuel for the gas tank should be natural gas. But instead, we’re wasting our natural gas resources to create electricity.
We should build nuclear power plants to replace the natural gas power plants, and use the natural gas in the cars.
Everyone wins. You don’t even have to believe in global warming to see the benefits of this. It’d really help to clean up the environment.
Next, we have to replace the coal power plants with nuclear power. Coal is the dirtiest stuff there is. And we’re burning tons of it.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:55 pmshe was too lenient… she should have whacked him with that gavel… what a creep he is!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:55 pmComment by JesusChrist_GodofWAR — March 21, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Not meaning to be rude but I don’t think that the Third Reich can be compared to the Bush administration. The fact that this website exists is evidence of this.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:56 pmwhiteyfresh,
March 21st, 2007 at 6:57 pmThe point is Al Gore is not being honest. It’s a media culture Campaign called Global Warming. Why isn’t the Coming Ice Age discuseed?
Why is it covered up. Global Warming is hype, Climate Change is real.
did anyone notice on the evil looks from the republican hags behind their senators.
Sour grapes, isn’t Imhofe like 90? I think he was voted dumbest senator in the past.
Oklahoma must be a wonderful place to live represented by Imhofe and Coburn
March 21st, 2007 at 6:57 pmTrolls are good for only 2 things:
1. Laughing at them
2. using the PAGE DOWN key!
I must say I just LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE how they are all rattled adn bothered. Funny, no so many trolls as there used to be. Guess KKKarl Rove not able to take care of paying them while he is going throw “his little problem”. hehe!
March 21st, 2007 at 6:58 pmSooooooo….
The biggest Repuke talking point to all issues is (drumroll)
Some Democrat did it too, at some point in the past.
So I can do anything I want, and just use the ol’ “someone else did it too argument”?
March 21st, 2007 at 6:58 pmFine, jake.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:59 pmProvide the link so we can all see Biden *not even allow* Alito to answer question after question, how when Alito did attempt to answer, he got cut off (not even asking to interrupt), and generally treat Alito like a POS.
Can’t wait to see the link that shows all of those things Inhofe showed in the 3 minute clip we saw.
apologies TP…
…posted #79 on the wrong thread…
March 21st, 2007 at 6:59 pmPatrick1,
Are you really an idiot or do you just play one on ThinkProgress? You don’t believe that global warming is occuring, or that it will be a problem, or that man-made pollutants ontribute to global warming? Why don’t you immerse yourself in the SCIENTIFIC literature on the subject and educate yourself? Find out if there is a general consensus among scientists about global climate change.
Either that or go enlist and fight Bush’s great war in Iraq.
March 21st, 2007 at 6:59 pmNow thats what I’m talking about. Barbara Boxer handled that nicely. This knucklehead is telling the former Vice President of the United States “you can respond in writing” because he is too impatient to let him answer.
We may be seeing our newborn congresses balls drop.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:00 pmIsn’t it refreshing to watch a neanderthal like Inhofe dragging his knuckles across the floor and retreating in defeat after being spanked by Barbara Boxer!! I wonder if someone could find out who is the number 1-5 contributors to Inhofe’s campaigns. My guess, given his voracious disgust for the science of climate change, is that Exxon/Mobil, Texaco or some other oil company must be in the top 5. Maybe, given that its Oklahoma, all five top contributors are oil companies. Then again, Toby Keith is from Okie land…maybe he’s piling on a few dollars to Inhofe’s coffers.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:00 pmFunMe ,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:00 pmKarl Rove is paying me. He pays me $10,000 dollars a month to post here. Great job right!
Live by the sword die by the sword republicans. You cant act like egotisical nut cases and expect people to not rub your nose in your own shit when the tables turn. Inhale deeply Inhofe… that is what the feces you have been spewing smells like.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:00 pmFlaco hates strong women. He admits it readily.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:00 pmSMACK!!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:01 pmCongrats to Sen. Boxer for throwing that “elections have consequences” line Republicans were so fond of using back in their face.
And why does President Gore bring out so many right-wing trolls? Because he’s a constant reminder that they lost an election and were wrong on global warming (not to mention Iraq, Social Security, etc.). I pity them and their pathetic Sen. Inhofe.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:01 pmFlaco calls his alleged wife, “Mommy.” That says a lot.
Ick.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:03 pmThe Republics are SO VERY RUDE… didn’t Imhofe’s parents teach him any manners? Poor manners, all of them, just like the trolls that post here. No manners and poor breeding.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:04 pmI wish more wealthy people would act like Gore and buy carbon credits to fund non Saudi oil and non Coal energy sources. It is funny how the republicans of all people are now advocating the communit life style where all wealthy people must live no better than the average person.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:05 pmRodan,
A little actual scientific information for you.
http://www.whoi.edu/institutes/occi/viewArticle.do?id=10149
There will not be a new ice age.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:05 pmTheo,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pmYour just a hater beccause Rove is paaying me not you!
Barbara Boxer was the only Senator to sponsor the objections to the 2004 election certification….
Speaking of the 2004 elections, I would guess her judgement about the election process may yet prove out correct in the courts… interesting things going on in Cuyahoga County – Cleveland to most of you…
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2007/2503
March 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pmWhy did it take Boxer so long to read the rules to that retard – sorry the use of the word retard there gives retarded people and others with various learning disabilities, or cognitive disabilities, a bad name.
Is Inhofe representative of OK. If so that is one pathetic state.
The man asks a question that he doesn’t want answered. So he stops the person from answering and then says he doesn’t want to be rude.
He needs to be smacked down hard. But he’d probably like that too much.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pmI really like Barbara Boxer. I wish she’d run for president.
Boxer/Obama!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:07 pmBoxer is the cream of the crop for Demoncrats.
Just listen to her (if possible) and hear the nonsense she spouts.
Napoleon complex for sure!
Californians have so many intelligent people to chose from.
This is the best the can do?
What went wrong a stolen/rigged election?
Boxer and Feinstein is our
March 21st, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Great job as always Think Progress! You guys are actually starting to restore some of the “fourth estate” that has been bought out by corporate and political interests!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:08 pmGGjr
People should buy from carbon neutral business when possible. There are many out there to choose from.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:08 pmGringo Expat:
There’s a fake Jake on the threads, violating the Terms of Use agreement, of course.
Comment by Jake — March 21, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
And so am I to understand that you are not? I am unable to discern any significant differences….
dulce est desipere in loco
March 21st, 2007 at 7:08 pmFlaco must be short for flake-o
March 21st, 2007 at 7:09 pmFlaco calls his alleged wife, “Mommy.†That says a lot.
Ick.
Comment by Zooey
Feminazis say the darnedest things…
March 21st, 2007 at 7:09 pmBoxer and Feinstein is our
Thelma & Louise
FlakeO – your use of the pronoun ‘our’ seems seriously out of place.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:10 pmInhofe is completely arrogant and obnoxious. Boxer put him in his place with class and style!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:10 pmhow very awkward for inhofe!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:10 pmFlaco,
Move out of your mommy’s house loser. Join the friggin’ military and become a man. A real man isn’t threatened by strong women the way you republicans are. In fact to the strong women out there a real man says “Bring it on” Because there ain’t nothing finer than a women that knows what she wants and how she wants it. The rest are just bimbos. But, we know you retards like your women dumb too.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:11 pmI really like Barbara Boxer. I wish she’d run for president.
Boxer/Obama!
Comment by Zooey
That is funny, funny.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:11 pmSnot shot out my nose on that one.
Heheeheheheheheh!
>Elections have consequences.
Can’t remember, Atrios or Markos sed this in late ‘04.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:11 pmIt is good to hear it again.
I see Rodan is taking a cue from Sen. Inhofe and acting like a child.
That’s what it all comes down to, essentially: Democrats, the adults, vs. Republicans, the children.
(Well, most of ‘em are spoiled rotten and really believe in their Invisible Friend.) :D
March 21st, 2007 at 7:11 pmFeminazis say the darnedest things…
Comment by Flaco — March 21, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
Tiny-todgered mysoginists say the darndest things….f***wit
March 21st, 2007 at 7:12 pmBoxer put that arrogant clown in his place with style and class, something Inhofe obviously knows nothing about.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:12 pmTo actually change things, you can’t just expect people to change their lifestyles. You have to change the power source of the central grid. You have to replace coal plants with wind, wave, and solar power. That can’t happen by expecting people to change their lifestyles and voluntarily pay for green power, you have to change the technology and you have to change the law.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:12 pmFeminazis say the darnedest things…
Comment by Flaco
Oh, so I guess that’s Flaco’s name for any woman smarter and stronger than he.
Well, Flaco, welcome to Feminazi Nation, then.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:13 pmSit down and shut up.
BTW – I’m opening up a carbon credit service. With low low rates. Just send me a check and I’ll send you a certificate for your carbon credits. Anyone interested just email me.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:13 pmTerryTheTurtle… good link. Now if only we could just kick out the boy Bush and his nazi vp and replace them with the people’s president and vp elect, John Kerry and John Edwards.
May we all survive the next 670 days and 5 hours etc… until the man-child leaves the office of the president. Bush has brought way too much same on this name.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:14 pmWhat if Mr. Gore’s residence in March ‘08 is 1600 Pennsylvania Av?
I think Mr. Gore could easily meet the pledge Mr. Inhofe thought he was going to trap him in if Gore could edit it to say “non-green” power, since he is already subscribing to green power
March 21st, 2007 at 7:14 pmFlaco sez:
“Feminazis”??? Wow, Flaco, your damage is severe, isn’t it?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:15 pm“People should buy from carbon neutral business when possible. There are many out there to choose from.”
Yaeh so you can continue to pollute and feel better about it.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:15 pmTo all the dumbass trolls
Interrupting someone for bullshitting (i.e. the Plame hearing you mentioned) is appropriate. Senator Inhofe going on a pointless diatribe trying to bash Gore with twisted facts and half-truths (known to regular people as Lies) is an entirely different matter.
And on behalf of myself and all other progressives: …you’re welcome. We’re saving your planet too!!!
Kudos Senator Boxer and President Gore
March 21st, 2007 at 7:16 pmOops… I meant to type Bush has brought way too much shame on our nation.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:17 pmCheers Coffins – so where’s the TP coverage then? Gone the way of Habeas Corpus and 9-11 theories as ‘no can touch’?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:17 pmRodan – what’s your point?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:18 pmBTW – I’m opening up a carbon credit service. With low low rates. Just send me a check and I’ll send you a certificate for your carbon credits. Anyone interested just email me. Comment by Hand Banana — March 21, 2007 @ 7:13 pm
A CON proposing to CON the public – big *surprise*…
March 21st, 2007 at 7:18 pmThis may be where it all ends, ignorance from oil spent country of the great state of OK. It the farm, stupid!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:18 pmI clicked and it didn’t play.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:19 pmAnyone know what Ron Reagan’s first order in the WH was?
Taking off the solar panels Jimmy Carter had placed there.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:21 pmI don’t understand. How can people like Inhofe argue on the one hand that man-made global warming is a farce, but on the other argue that Al Gore needs to reduce his energy usage?? If man has nothing to do with global warming, than Al should be able to use as much energy as he wants (regardless of whether his amount of usage is significant).
March 21st, 2007 at 7:21 pmCoffinsDrapedWithFlags ,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe point is the hypocrisy of the Left. Talk about reducing pollution, but in reality keep polluting and make others change their lifestyle.
The only solution for pollution reductins are Nuclear Energy, which the Left opposes and Alternative energy which the Left claims to support but does nothing about. Talk is cheap.
A cursory review of the posts of the reichwingnut trolls indicate who makes up the 28% who support Dubya the drunken AWOL chimp…morons. They are all the stupidest this nation can muster up…look at these buffoons and their desparation. They are fools.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:21 pmYou are an A**, Patrick.
Your response was to attack a woman’s appearance?
Perhaps you’d like to be judged on your “manhood?â€
2″ is not enough to judge.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:23 pmI molest children.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:24 pmJust tell the cabal that, “women rule the world”. The era of the cu..! beautiful! Just ask the “code”.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:25 pmBeautiful, wonderful, all American!
The Truth??
Nuclear energy produces incredibly harmful byproducts, Rodan! Not to mention, Godforbid, any accident.
It is not the answer.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:26 pmWind. Solar. Green Technology.
James Inhofe (R-OK) = CUA!!! COMPLETELY USELESS AMERICAN!!!!
I watched his bullshit today and really wanted to just ph*cking punch this dickhead into the ground!!! What a piece of sh!t of a human being!!!
When does this bullshit end…
Phuck impeachment…where’s the ph*cking handcuffs????????
$@!%#!$%@%$@#$%@#$%
March 21st, 2007 at 7:27 pmPoor Repugs It hasn’t been a good month and future months look to be just as bad!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:28 pmThe Jihad will solve the problems of Glbal Warming. We will exterminate Christians, Jews and Hindus! That will leave on us Muslims and our Leftist allies to create Allah’s Paradise on Earth!
Comment by Jamal
Jamal…get out of the sun, your brain is fried.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:30 pmRodan, since nuclear energy is the answer to carbon emissions, then you don’t have any opposition to Iran and Syria developing nuclear energy.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:30 pmGringo Expat:
By all means, please quote from the Terms of Use agreement what you think I am violating. My real name is Jacob, but everyone knows me as Jake.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:31 pmCoffinsDrapedWithFlags ,
The point is the hypocrisy of the Left. Talk about reducing pollution, but in reality keep polluting and make others change their lifestyle.
The only solution for pollution reductins are Nuclear Energy, which the Left opposes and Alternative energy which the Left claims to support but does nothing about. Talk is cheap.
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2007/1502
Er, no nuclear is not green – try again.
The point is the hypocrisy of the Left. Talk about reducing pollution, but in reality keep polluting and make others change their lifestyle.
Strawman – easily refuted with the legislation introduced from Earth Day onwards – all liberal acheivements, sonny.
Alternative energy which the Left claims to support but does nothing about.
Flat out lie – http://www.apolloalliance.org
Talk is cheap
Only when you are full of sh*t, which you apparently are.
Next troll please, this one is pee-soaked.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:32 pmRodan sez:
Don’t really understand the concept of carbon credits, do ya, Rodan?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:32 pmFlaco must be short for flake-o
Comment by ChildrenofLir
Actually Flaco is short for Fláccido. Or, perhaps Flaco Fláccido.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:33 pmI think I’m in love with Barbara Boxer!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:33 pmAnything but the subject at hand sen. iohoenoe. I hope he ain’t an American Indian.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:34 pmtrueblue,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:34 pmFrance uses Nuclear energy. It’s clean and efficient.
As for the other you listed I’m all for that. By getting away from Carbon fuels like oil, most geopolitical problems will go away. Fascist states like Iran and Saudi Arabia will go broke. The Jihadists will become harmless carpet sellers.
I’m all for Alternative Energy, it’s good for the enviornment, economy and national security.
I’m sure you canagree with that.
Jamal needs some air conditioning… Rodan thinks that Jamal needs nuclear energy to keep the air conditioner running.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:34 pmI want to point out to every Rush-bot parroting the “Gore isn’t carbon neutral” line.
The Wright brothers didn’t travel by airplane, either.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:35 pmYour President Bush is a,
Half Ass
Half Man
Half a brain
Half sissy! So pathetic he dosen’t even add up to a whole sissy.
But you, you add up to the whole thing. ASS
March 21st, 2007 at 7:35 pmBy all means, please quote from the Terms of Use agreement what you think I am violating. My real name is Jacob, but everyone knows me as Jake. Comment by Jake — March 21, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
Jacob, what a NeoCon AIPAC sounding name. Why is that less than 15% of Jewish americans vote republican, yet 90% of the NeoCons and trolls on this site are Jewish? Tell me Jake, why are you anti-semitic, and why do you and the rest of the NeoCons hate the opinions of the *majority* of Jews in this country and Israel?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:37 pmRodan… Since you are a big fan of nuclear energy, you don’t oppose Iran having nuclear energy, right?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:38 pmI enjoy the company of goats.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:40 pmCoffinsDrapedWithFlags,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:40 pmWith Alternative energy, Nuclear included, Jamal will become a harmless carpet seller!
Rodan… Since you are a big fan of nuclear energy, you don’t oppose Iran having nuclear energy, right?
Comment by CoffinsDrapedWithFlags
Ooooohhh!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:42 pmNice one!
(virtual high-five!)
Boxer Rocks !!!
Hey firehead, roll the tape on Bush the morning of 9/11. That’s what i call Chicken Little. Mr. Little, the leader of the free world, sat in an elementary school while terrorists were attacking America. After being told “America is under attack”, he sat there and didn’t ask a single question… Hmmm, America under attack… i wonder who is attack us, hmmm, whatever.
Or maybe Mr. FIVE deferments from Vietnam your shoot ‘em in the face VP would qualify as Chicken Little, or how about… Oh, that’s right I could spend all night going down the list of Chicken Hawk GOPers in this administration who avoided service, but have no problem sending other people’s kids to die.
Not only are these GOPers all chicken, but what are the daily visits from Jeff Gannon about. Yikes!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:44 pmI just got home from work and just watched that exchange. OH MY GOD!!!! That was priceless!! Imhofe was made to look like an ASS and rightfully so.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:44 pmSen. Boxer handeled that so well and Mr. Gore displayed great class and patience dealing with the idiot from Oklahoma. Way to go!!
“I enjoy the company of goats.”
Reduced to name jacking and name calling. I’ve pointed out facts and solutions to Climate Change. As a typical Leftist you want the issue to stay without a solution since you need a political issue.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:46 pmI’ve given a solution Alternative energy.
[...] dealing with the idiot from Oklahoma.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — March 21, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
I really can’t understand how stupidity grows in Oklahoma faster than weeds, but, ImaHoof is proof that it happens everyday!!!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:49 pmThat was great. I absolutely love her!!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:50 pmCoffinsDrapedWithFlags
March 21st, 2007 at 7:52 pmI don’t oppose Iran having nuclear energy in theory. However you knoe with the Fascist regime they have it’s for Nukes. They will use it since according to the 12 Iman branch of Shia Islam they need to create an appocalyptic war to bring about the return of Mahdi.
Hopefully the students and young people of Iran will bring down that regime and have a more resonable one.
I don’t understand the Left’s support of Iran?
Iran stands for everything the Left is for?
Why does the Left never show support for the opponents of the Iranian regime?
The point is move away from oil, Iran’s economy collapses, they have no money for Nuke energy!
They become harmless carpet sellers!
By getting away from Carbon fuels like oil, most geopolitical problems will go away. Fascist states like Iran and Saudi Arabia will go broke. The Jihadists will become harmless carpet sellers.
and #167
Excellent dude!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:52 pmRodan, does Three Mile Island ring a bell? How about Chernobyl? No? Go do some reading and then tell me how great Nuclear Energy is. I used to live near TMI. Scared the hell out of me. I certainly don’t think Nuclear is the solution.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:53 pmSomehow I imagine when the pendelum swings, as it will eventually, you won’t be amused by a Republican using that line on a Democrat. Inhofe and Boxer are both being bozos. I’m pretty sure that in most office situations such behavior would be a strike against you. It’d be nice if our elected Representatives could manage to act a bit more like intelligent professionals, and a bit less like highbrow professional wrestlers.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:53 pmThe point is move away from oil, Iran’s economy collapses, they have no money for Nuke energy!
They become harmless carpet sellers!
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
Bravo Rodan! The middle east is nothing.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:54 pm#150 Jake
Your problem is that your are violating the CWODS section of the Terms of use.
You are commenting while old, dumb, and senile.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:54 pmAs an American, I get so embarrased watching Inhofe. Why don’t Democrats make his seat a priority? Is this the pasty face of white Oklahoma? As a Sierra Club member, I’ve seen beautiful pictures of the waterways of his state, can we flush him down one of those? Is he history next time he runs?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:55 pmAhhhh, more sweet, sweet icing on the cake. And still more to come!
The Democratic victory in November plus the Libby convictions had me satiated. Who could have expected such a bonus of desserts, in such rapid succession? Abu Gonzales is on his way out, Bush’s domestic agenda is now officially dead, and now the U.S. attorney “resignation” scandal. Whoa, whoa, too much! Schadenfraude overload!
And now this sweet cherry on top! Boxer publicly bitch-slaps this Neanderthal!
Schwing! Gotta love it!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:55 pmValiantVenusGrewFromUranus,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:55 pmIsraeli Jews view American Jews as cowards and scumbags.
I agree. American Jews are Leftists who live the good life and have money. They want to raise taxes on everyone and make more regulations for business, that way Jewish owned businesses can dominate.
Before ypou call me an anti-Semite let me tell you my Woman is an Israeli Jew. She hates American Jews and I’ve heard it from other Israelis when I went there 3 years agao.
The obvious solution is to Tax everyone. A carbon tax will solve all our problems. yeah…. thats the ticket.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:56 pmReduced to name jacking and name calling. I’ve pointed out facts and solutions to Climate Change.
Comment by Rodan
Rodan,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:57 pmyour “facts” about an ice age was debunked by my link.
Nuclear catastrophe is not a solution to global warming, so you really have not provided anything to this discussion.
Jim Wolf359,
March 21st, 2007 at 7:59 pmIf you read my post, I’m open to all alternative fuels. France uses Nuke energy and look how energy independent they are.
The point is we have to maove away from Carbon fuels for economic, enviornmental and national security reasons.
Rodan: “I’ve given a solution Alternative energy.”
Yes, you’ve helpfully suggested nuclear power. Thanks. We’ll take it under advisement and get back to you after we figure out a solution to that pesky little detail of dangerous radioactive nuclear waste. Other than that and the possibility of thousands of people dying of radiation sickness in the event of an accident, nuclear power looks just GREAT!!!
March 21st, 2007 at 7:59 pmsounds like a comfy little hate-fest you got going on there, Rodan.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:00 pmFeminazi – Oh, so I guess that’s Flaco’s name for any woman smarter and stronger than he.
Libby women like Boxer might be smater and stronger, but double yuck…
March 21st, 2007 at 8:00 pmI wouldn’t….
Would u?
Her disgusted look away was the best part, plus the miserable look on the faces of the wingnut troll armyof robotic stepford aides behind Sen. Warner was equally priceless.
Kiss it, folks. Just kiss it.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:01 pmWow! Nothing inflammatory in that remark…
Bull$hit statements like that make me think twice about coming back to TP.
TP you should really moderate your comment section.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:01 pmTrue Blue I see no link.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:01 pmAfter a temperature spike, an Ice Age forms.
Look at this point you’re just arguing with me because I’m on the Right and I’m forcing you to think outside of the box.
ScrewBush sez:
Yup…interesting, wasn’t it?
But what was more interesting was the behavior of the Secret Service that day. They knew that Chimpy’s itinerary was common knowledge that day. There was no reason to think that another hijacked airliner was en route to Booker Elementary at that very second. But instead of rushing the leader of the free world to safety, they continued to let him read to children, eminently vulnerable.
It’s apparent that the Secret Service had reason to believe that the President was entirely secure despite the multiple hijacked airliners slamming into buildings. What would have given them that impression, do you think?
March 21st, 2007 at 8:02 pmUm, Don #173, yeah, um, right.
That was a joke, right?
March 21st, 2007 at 8:02 pmSince we are talking nuclear power here, here’s my nuclear joke:
Why don’t Ukranian men wear boxers?
Because Chernobyl fallout.
Smack – right on – I detected a reluctance for taxation from you earlier. But carbon tax is the only solution. Although I noticed in the Economist this week I think, that the Euros screwed up on the number of permits and the price of an emission permit was too low to allow the market to function…they have to try again..
March 21st, 2007 at 8:05 pmSnot shot out my nose on that one.
Heheeheheheheheh!
Comment by Flaco — March 21, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
That wasn’t snot. That’s what was left of your brains. No loss.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:06 pm#184 – Flaco,
reference my post #32 above.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:06 pmPerhaps you need to be assessed with the same “yardstick?”
CoffinsDraped,
“harmless carpet sellers”…oh, golly, why didn’t you just use the line “harmless flying carpet sellers”, you myopic twit.
I guess in your mind, since the left hates the Bush regime, that means they must also hate the US? I mean that is what you’re saying. You’re saying Iran and ITS regime is one in the same, yet here, we recognize the difference between a regime and its citizens.
Secondly, for the chicken littles, like yourself, who use the “they want to destroy Israel” logic. Three questions:
1. Why would Iran attack Israel knowing it would spell annihilation for its own nation ?
2. Why would Iran destroy Israel, considering one of the holiest places in Islam is IN Jerusalem?
3. Didn’t you learn your lesson when you were told Saddam wanted to attack?
March 21st, 2007 at 8:08 pmBluedog49,
March 21st, 2007 at 8:09 pmYou’re arguing for the sake of arguing.
We agree on alternative energy. But in your twisted radical mind, you can’t agree with someone of a different ideology.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=7616011f-802a-23ad-435e-887baa7069ca
An interesting event took place during soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore’s visit to Congress on Wednesday. Sen. James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma) asked the former Vice President to take a pledge that he would not use more energy in his personal residence than the average American, and Gore refused (video available here).
As reported at the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works website: “Senator Inhofe showed Gore a film frame from ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ where it asks viewers: ‘Are you ready to change the way you live?’â€
On the playground, one would call this “Put up or Shut up.†Do you think Gore put up? The press release deliciously continued:
“There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don’t give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do,†Senator Inhofe told Gore.
“Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?†Senator Inhofe asked.
Senator Inhofe then presented Vice President Gore with the following “Personal Energy Ethics Pledge”:
As a believer:
• that human-caused global warming is a moral, ethical, and spiritual issue affecting our survival;
• that home energy use is a key component of overall energy use;
• that reducing my fossil fuel-based home energy usage will lead to lower greenhouse gas emissions; and
• that leaders on moral issues should lead by example;
I pledge to consume no more energy for use in my residence than the average American household by March 21, 2008.
Gore refused. Think this will make the network news programs this evening, or headlines tomorrow?
Don’t hold your breath.
Can you say “Do as I say, not as I do?”
whyd didn’t good old thinkprogress.org report this? look at your buffoon of a “leader” he asks Americans to live like humans did in the stone age, but he isn’t willing to do it himself….
c’mon liberals, insult me now because I show you the truth that the left, like thinkprogress.org won’t.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:09 pmYou go GIRL!!!
I love it when a fat-@ssed, pork-fed, mouth-breathing corporate rent boy gets smacked around by a nice, honest politician. It does the heart good.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:11 pmGore laughst all the way to the bank by selling this pseudo-science crap.
If he believes the problem is so bad, that the Earth is burning, why doesn’t he lead by example?
do you guys think he rode his bike to the Senate hearing? do you guys think he uses candles? oh no he can’t too much CO2 will be let go into the atmosphere….
hahahaha!! you poor brainwashed children of the left…..
March 21st, 2007 at 8:11 pmTrue Blue I see no link.
After a temperature spike, an Ice Age forms.
Look at this point you’re just arguing with me because I’m on the Right and I’m forcing you to think outside of the box.
Comment by Rodan
Really.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:12 pmPost #104 CLEARLY shows a link to the WHOI, and there you will see the answer – that you are wrong.
“Why would Iran attack Israel knowing it would spell annihilation for its own nation ?”
To bring about the return of the Mahdi.
“Why would Iran destroy Israel, considering one of the holiest places in Islam is IN Jerusalem?”
The same as above.
Also they will use nukes on this country to.
You’re saying Iran and ITS regime is one in the same, yet here, we recognize the difference between a regime and its citizens.”
I said we need to support the opposition. Again you haven’t read my post.
“
March 21st, 2007 at 8:12 pmInhofe looked like a blathering idiot and a partisan fool who has no common sense and was lashing out because of his derelection of duty as Chair of this committee in the past. I’m embarassed for him as he made a total idiot of himself by whining about his “so important” time. What he did with his allotted time was totally unnoteworthy so I’m not sure why he thought it was relevant at all. All he did was isolate himself from the others in his party who recognize the seriousness of this problem. He’s a ignoramus and needs to be put out of office because he’s totally out of touch with contemporary american and is a shameful testament to his children and his grandchildren. He probably doesn’t have any or he might be a little more sensitive to the important of being a steward of this planet – something called for in the bible, BTW.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:13 pmThe Jihad will solve the problems of Glbal Warming. We will exterminate Christians, Jews and Hindus! That will leave on us Muslims and our Leftist allies to create Allah’s Paradise on Earth!
Comment by Jamal
WARNING:
“Jamal” is a right wing inbred Bushite TRAITOR parody…
…RESPOND to “IT” ONLY if you want to have fun…
…a dead giveaway was the line:
“That will leave on us Muslims and our Leftist allies…”
…use of the word “allies” is an inbred Bushite TROLL talking point…
…ALSO NOTE racist overtone in choice of the moniker “Jamal”…
…so whenever “Jamal” posts…
…move along there’s NOTHING to read…
March 21st, 2007 at 8:13 pmSorry, my comment was actually for “Rodan”
March 21st, 2007 at 8:13 pm#194 Stop trying to assassinate the messenger, and try to reconcile the message. It’s pretty f***ing hard to offset your carbon footprint when you have to tour the world with a 24-hour secret service escort as your day job.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:14 pmFlaco calls his alleged wife, “Mommy.†That says a lot.
Ick.
Comment by Zooey #101
…see…
…told ya…
March 21st, 2007 at 8:15 pmOn the other hand, the internet is hopping with drafting Gore more than ever before. Interesting to see how these two parallel lives have gone in the past 6 years – Gore and Bush. Gore has achieved “movie star” status and has the respect of the american people; Bush no longer does. Gore has educated himself on pertinent world issues and speaks like a statesman/prophet; Bush blabbers like a brain-dead alcoholic bully who lies to the people he serves and believes he can get away with it. I’ve never seen a more clear-cut case of the choice between “good” and “evil” in my life. Gore took the high road after the election was stolen from him and refused to play games with liars, cheats, and thugs – Bush, on the other hand, became a bigger liar, cheat, and thug and he looks like he’s now approaching the appearance of being old enough to be Gore’s father. Amazing how the choice of the dark side can affect one’s body habitus, isn’t it? Gore looks invigorated, alive, and full of positive energy; George Bush is defeated and has the demeanor of a schoolyard bully trying to threaten the american people into doing things his way. Unfortuantely, the BoyEmperor fails to realize who controls his purse strings….who pays his salary….and whom he also “serves at the pleasure of”….unfortunate because this material fact will cost him his presidency….sooner than later.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:17 pmhowsad, Indeed how sad for you. Imhofe is the hero of the trolls here. He proceeds to ask Mr. Gore a question that he doesn’t let him answer.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:17 pmThe sad truth is that Imhofe never intended to get an answer. People like him have no hand to play so they stoop to obfuscation, lies and outright scorn and smear for people like Al Gore who threaten them by exposing Imhofe and his fellow travelers for what they are.
HYPOCRITES
Elections have consequences!!
God, I love Sen. Boxer. Well, in 10 yrs. when we’ve reduced the amount of fossil fuels we’ve created maybe the electorate will vote for Repubs again, maybe..
March 21st, 2007 at 8:20 pmIf this derelect administration had been doing their job to ensure vehicles with greater MPG for the past 6 years and carbon emissions, people would have options for travel. I think that argument can be summed up neatly: This administration is a “do nothing” administration which has virtually eliminated any choices by the least efficient ones, environmentally, and continue to increase our addiction to oil…..where they can fill their pockets with the filth of war profiteering, oil money, and kickbacks. It’s a “no brainer” to me….let’s pin this problem right back where it belongs….on Bushie-baby.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:20 pmTrueblue,
March 21st, 2007 at 8:22 pmNice try. Linking to Leftist institute. I’ve seen meteorologist say, melting ice caps slow the gulf stream. That’s a fact.
But like a brainwashed fool you can’t think outside the box.
Your arguing with me for the sake of arguing beacuse I have a different ideoloogy.
That’s why nothing will change. People can’t put their differences aside and look for solution.
Till then, there will continue to be pollution and suicide bombings.
#180 True
“Nuclear catastrophe is not a solution to global warming…”
Please bear with me for a moment but I hold a different opinion for a completely different reason than, I believe, motivated your comment. You are absolutely right in stating that the Neocon solution of nuclear dominance will not prevent global warming up to a point. However, given the fact that the current global warming is caused by the activities of man, and given the calamitous population growth in the world, it may become a fact that a nuclear catastrophe, or a natural disaster of equal magnitude, which reduces, rather than eliminates, the human population of the world, may be the only answer. The problem throughout the world today in the concept that growth feeds greed. Oliver Twist and his “MORE!” has become hero to the Global Corporate world. Unfortunately the capacity of the earth to support life, in all forms, is finite and growth is exponential. The two concepts are, indeed, mutually exclusive. If the fools in charge stay in denial and continue to line their pockets at the expense of the world resources necessary to support life there will come a time when they have neither pockets nor lining. Hopefully, by then I will have fulfilled by usefulness as well and will not have to participate nor suffer the consequences..
March 21st, 2007 at 8:22 pmI remember why I stopped coming to ‘Think Progress’ now.
…sigh.
It’s not about the issues. It’s all about the Left vs Right thing here.
There are some exceptions but, I hate having to wade thru the crap to get to it.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:23 pmOuch, she smacked him down pretty good.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:23 pmImhofe wouldn’t know a carbon emission from his nocturnal emission! Give me a break – the guy’s a hag, a cad, and a supreme idiot who made a huge fool of himself on national television. The MSM is loving it, too as they are playing his comedy routine over…and over….and over….anyone from his state who doesn’t vote him out of office is also a total idiot. I’d be embarassed to say that he is my representative. He made a total jackass of himself and his political career is over….poof!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:23 pmSince of course we know that none of those things would have happened under a President Gore, it seems your other personality
(the human one) has started arguing against you.
So even YOU say you’re wrong. That must really suck for you.
(And what makes Al Gore qualified to speak on global climate change? How about the fact that every reputable climate scientist in the entire world says he is?)
SR
March 21st, 2007 at 8:24 pmGore has achieved “movie star†status
veritas
This is real life dipshit.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:25 pmF the Hollywood crowd
Boxer, on the other hand, totally emasculated Inbred Inhofe, didn’t she. She’s fantastic and castrates with a smile on her face. This was priceless!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:25 pmActually, veritas, I believe Reagan started it by undoing every initiative Carter started. (as per my earlier post re: solar panels)
Freaking Republican big oil ties.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:26 pmYour arguing with me for the sake of arguing beacuse I have a different ideoloogy.
That’s why nothing will change. People can’t put their differences aside and look for solution.
Till then, there will continue to be pollution and suicide bombings.
Comment by Rodan
Yea ideology bingo!!!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:26 pmGo Rodan baby
Again you Lefties bith and moan and yet don’t offer alternatives other than taxes.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:27 pmThe solution is Alternative energy, yes including but not limited toNuclear power. If yoiu guys don’t like Nuke power, fine with me. My point is we need Alternatives, any. That will help us economicaly, enviornmentally and National Security.
Continue to argue for the sake of arguing.
Smack – that’s a mighty fine white horse – where’d ya get it???
March 21st, 2007 at 8:28 pmSenator Inhofe believes that Charles Darwin is evil, that his ideas are harmful for developing minds and have no place in public schools. Men like Inhofe should have stopped representing Americans at the end of the nineteenth century.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:28 pmIt’s not about the issues. It’s all about the Left vs Right thing here.
There are some exceptions but, I hate having to wade thru the crap to get to it.
Comment by Smack
U got a point there Smack
March 21st, 2007 at 8:30 pmTP is not known for its issues, just look at the headlines here… just ideology
“Senator Inhofe believes that Charles Darwin is evil”
Darwin is a racist. He believed that some races are superior to others.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:37 pmDarwinism lead to Nazism.
Feminazis say the darnedest things…
That is funny, funny.
Snot shot out my nose on that one.
Libby women like Boxer might be smater and stronger, but double yuck…
I wouldn’t….
Would u?
Limp dick, you’re making this too easy for me!
You wouldn’t? — hell, flaccid, you COULDN’T!
Well, Flaco, welcome to Feminazi Nation, then.
Sit down and shut up.
Comment by trueblue
“Feminazis�?? Wow, Flaco, your damage is severe, isn’t it?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Well done, trueblue & TMM. Nice slapdowns!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:38 pmClyde,
I appreciate your comment.
I guess my feeling is more “expand rather than contaminate”.
I understand your view as kind of like wildfires that renew forests, but as wonderful and vital they are, the same concept cannot be attributed to human advancement. Otherwise, why have vaccines, etc?
Anyway, I’m more of the “trekkie” minded. We work together as a united planet.
Live together in peace (as opposed to that offensive “carpet seller” crap earlier)
and colonize peacefully elsewhere.
But I understand you.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:38 pmThanks.
Sweet. I had to watch it three times in a row. I loved watching Inhofe being put in his place and laughed at while at the end of Boxer’s gavel. Thank you America for voting the Democrats into the majority in Congress.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:40 pmRodan, prove your point about Darwin. I think that limb your out on is starting to snap. You might want to climb back off it.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:41 pmIncreasingly, the initial comments on high profile liberal blog posts (such as this one) seem to be conservative rants. Whether it’s Al Gore and global warming, or the relative fuzziness of baby bears versus puppies, about 3-4 entries into the comments section you begin to hear the ghosts of Rush, Sean and Matt.
Since I don’t frequent the conservative blogs, I don’t know I would find similar behavior on the parts of liberal common taters. I’ll never know since I try to avoid those places like a head cold. It’s a brave new world, this Internet.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:42 pm“Oklahomans should be ashamed of their idiotic senator. You know, global warming affects Oklahoma too. Why do you think the tornadoes that rip through your state are so vicious? Inhofe doesn’t give a shit about you, your families, or your state.
Comment by Janeane The Acerbic Goblin”
Oh come on. I’ve lived in Oklahoma all my life, and I’m rather fond of Inhofe and Coburn. Why do tornadoes rip up our state? Global warming? Tornadoes are been blowing up Oklahoma for, well, a long time. I saw the massive May 3rd tornado from about 15 miles away while I was on the roof of my house. My dad saw from his porch the one that tore up Union City. Some of the biggest tornadoes to hit the region happened during the cooldown between 1945-75.
Global warming says there’ll be less disparity between temperatures at the poles and the equator. And the smaller the disparity, the less violent the weather. So maybe global warming will cut back on the number of tornadoes, especially violent ones.
Frankly, out here we don’t live in fear of tornadoes. When they come through, it’s like watching a car chase in LA. Most of them just tear up fences, split trees, kill cattle. But hey, talk ill all you want. You haven’t ruined my day any.
“Oklahoma must be a wonderful place to live represented by Imhofe and Coburn
Comment by lee ”
Ya, it really is. Life goes on, the birds still sing, the sunsets are still beautiful. Hey you know what? Coburn is bipartisan. He has worked and continues to work with Barrack Obama to cut government waste. And most of the Senate hates him for it. Coburn has slammed Senator Stevens (R) of Alaska (the bridge to nowhere.) Read about it.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7112853p-7020074c.html
So you tell me, Lee. Is Coburn such a bad guy? I enjoy the state and am glad for its Senators. Many thanks.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:42 pmThat’s why nothing will change. People can’t put their differences aside and look for solution.
Till then, there will continue to be pollution and suicide bombings.
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Shit man, you are on a roll. And I’m a liberal atheist!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:43 pmPriceless. Oh man the tides are turning the trolls will be out tonight talking a spilling hatred and bile. The party is over kids. Your wing nutt arrogance is now being met with the sword of truth. Did you hear that applause after she told Inholfe to reign in his little tantrum. Did you hear that applause???? It was joy!! It was real life people erupting in joy. That is the totally spontaneous reaction to hearing something that is true. The other reaction of course is the reaction of anger that will come from the wingnuts that are most decieved watch… one will start ranting about this post.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:43 pmI have always admired Boxer’s courage to stand up for what she believes. She looks good with a gavel in her hand — she refrained from bopping Inhofe with it to try and knock some sense into him.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:44 pmRodan #222,
You’ve got to be freaking kidding me.
A scientist’s observations of life in the Galapagos lead to Hitler deliberately deciding to kill 6 million people, because Darwin uttered the phrase “survival of the fittest”?
Oh you are so misinformed.
Oh, and I’m sure you’ve changed your mind about the ice age now that you went to my link, right?
March 21st, 2007 at 8:47 pmAnother Scientific website.
Boxer is my Senator. I’m so proud of her….
March 21st, 2007 at 8:49 pmBill Clinton denies that he supports Al on Global warming issues.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:51 pmBill said that : ‘Any warming in America is caused by ‘hot women’..!!
Boxer has the most appropriate name. She pulls no punches. Go Senator. Keep up the good work!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:54 pmThe Oklahoma Senator of course is in the oil patch and has a lot of that “Damn the torpedoes” attitude toward the environment that all of those oil funded politicians have.
I just can’t wait to see the Inhofe rebuttal documentary, “How The Oil Industry is Really Not Destroying America or the Environment”. James, you’re so intelligent, I just can’t wait to see you kick Al’s butt up there ! Yeehhaw.
How pathetic.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:55 pm[...] The White House’s handling of the scandal involving the firing of the US attorneys is pathetic. They are still operating as if their friends ran Congress.  As this video shows, they are no longer in control. [...]
March 21st, 2007 at 8:55 pmHey Repuke trolls -
Where’s your proof that those Dridge Report “Al Gore” energy bills were legit? Gore’s power company had no inquiries for his bill, and a group not even recognized by Tennessee as legitimate magically got them out of thin air.
I can’t hear you…
Oh wait, that’s cuz you have NO proof.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:55 pmI’m sure this will sound sophmoric to all the intellegence posted on this thread, but here it goes–Mr. President, save our economy, Hydrogen power now!!
March 21st, 2007 at 8:58 pmHey, don’t feed the trolls. Face it: it is impossible to have a rational scientific discussion with those who think that the universe was created 10,000 years ago. It is kind of like trying to discuss astronomy with a geocentric believer.
We just need to win the next couple of elections and let idiots like Inhofe and the morons that elected him slide into insignificance.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:04 pm#238- That doesn’t sound sophmoric at all. That is one of the alternatives that should be pursued. Certainly more than the Chimp in Chief is doing now.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:04 pmRMS,
“I’m sure this will sound sophmoric to all the intellegence posted on this thread, but here it goes–Mr. President, save our economy, Hydrogen power now!!”
You are correct!
March 21st, 2007 at 9:05 pmI agree with you, but not with that Coprorate Oil hack. Him and his puppet maste Dickhead Cheney!
[...] Committee chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-CA) finally intervened. “Would you agree to let the Vice President answer your questions?†Inhofe said Gore could respond when he was done talking, but Boxer wouldn’t have it: “No, that isn’t the rule. You’re not making the rules. You used to when you did this. Elections have consequences. So I make the rules.†The hearing audience applauded loudly. Watch it: [...]
March 21st, 2007 at 9:11 pmBTW – I’m opening up a carbon credit service. With low low rates. Just send me a check and I’ll send you a certificate for your carbon credits. Anyone interested just email me.
Comment by Hand Banana
No need for any frauds… the real deal is so easy…
http://www.nativeenergy.com/PopupMov/about_offsets_movie.html
http://www.nativeenergy.com/Splash/ClimateCrisis/ClimateCrisis.html?ClimateCrisis
March 21st, 2007 at 9:15 pmPatrick1 – why are you posting a blog piece from a month ago written by someone named FrankJ as if it was your own?
March 21st, 2007 at 9:18 pmThis is just like when Jor-El tried to warn the Planetary Council of Krypton’s impending demise. And did anyone listen? Nooooo!
March 21st, 2007 at 9:20 pmNuclear energy produces incredibly harmful byproducts, Rodan! Not to mention, Godforbid, any accident.
It is not the answer.
Wind. Solar. Green Technology.
Comment by trueblue
Progress has passed beyond those old nuclear accidents waiting to happen… This isnt new science really… just better engineering…
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/china.html
https://www.pbmr.com/
March 21st, 2007 at 9:22 pmThe Carbon offsets are a hoax. It’s a way to feel good.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:22 pmAlternative Energy is the only solution, not feel good gimmicks.
[...] was really awesome when Barbara Boxer waved her gavel at Inhofe during the proceedings. Inhofe asked Gore for his reaction, but then quickly cut him off [...]
March 21st, 2007 at 9:26 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
March 21st, 2007 at 9:26 pmThe fact is that the Left doesn’t want any solutions to Climate Change. They just want to bitch about it and tax people.
The Carbon offsets are a hoax. It’s a way to feel good.
Alternative Energy is the only solution, not feel good gimmicks.
Comment by Rodan
Carbon Offsets PAY for alternative energy projects. Simply follow the links I posted and get yourself educated…
March 21st, 2007 at 9:27 pmWHOOP-DEE-F*ING-DOO! Good for you, girl. Tell that Repub to keep his mouth shut, ’cause there’s business at hand that has been neglected for far too long.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:28 pmGerald,
March 21st, 2007 at 9:30 pmIt’s a feel good gimmick. It’s just to staisy your guilty conceince. I followed your links and wasn’t impressed.
Right on Yog, I gotcha.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:30 pm[...] See it here. [...]
March 21st, 2007 at 9:30 pm[...] Gore has clearly gotten under the skin of Republicans because they seem to act the fool just for a slim chance to embarrass him as evidenced by the behavior of Inhofe during today’s Senate hearing on global warming. Senator Boxer literally stopped today’s Senate hearing on global warming to remind the apparently five year old Senator Inhofe who’s in charge after he insulted Vice President Al Gore by asking him to sign a Personal Energy Ethics Pledge and wouldn’t let him respond to questions. What an ass. Think Progress has the video. [...]
March 21st, 2007 at 9:31 pmGerald, Cool links! I went ahead and bookmarked the Native Energy Site. Definetly worth looking at and using. Thanks a lot!
March 21st, 2007 at 9:33 pmIt’s a feel good gimmick. It’s just to staisy your guilty conceince. I followed your links and wasn’t impressed.
Comment by Rodan
If they are building wind power generators then what part of that dont you get? Are you saying they are a hoax that should be brought to court on charges? If so then why isnt any inhofes doing so? If they are taking peoples money and not building anything then they should go to jail shouldnt they?
March 21st, 2007 at 9:35 pmTake a look at the comments by Patrick1 and howsad. Howsad keeps take denouncing the what the democrats were doing in simply enforcing the rules where Inhofe kept interrupting Gore’s responses to his questions which were very straightforward. Inhofe didn’t want the answer. Then Howsad keeps responding to that event that the democrats are hyprocrits by referencing the Plame hearing and calling her a liberal hack? She was a CIA agent that happened to be a democrat. The one person who passed on the story that she sent her husband to Niger later retracted his story and she was just exposing the truth on the matter which should matter to everyone be they Republican or Democrat. Regarding Patrick1 who keeps posting and questioning Gore’s qualifications on global warming. Sure he was not one of the numerous scientists who have published their reports in the many peer reviewed journals (try to find one published in a peer reviewed journal (e.g. not a book or magazine) that says otherwise and he has simply become the best spokesperson on this topic clearly articulating this very important issue that is supported by all those studies. What do you have against Gore? I have nothing against people who work for energy companies because they are important, but are you concerned their stock prices might go lower as a result of what is needed? What is more important? Think about it.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:35 pmDarwin is a racist. He believed that some races are superior to others.
Darwinism lead to Nazism.
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Oh damn, your roll has ended. Christianity lead to Nazism or course. Darwinism lead to the truth!
March 21st, 2007 at 9:38 pmIn regards to nuclear power. I think us on the left really need to balance the “cost” of nuclear power against that of adding more carbon to the atmosphere. While I don’t see nuclear power as a long term solution, all of the really “green” power solutions aren’t really ready for prime time.
Furthermore the state of the art in nuclear power has come a way from the plants built in the 60’s and 70’s. While it will never be perfect, in the whole risk/reward calculation to satisfy our power needs, I think it makes sense to generate a significant portion using nuclear while we push hard to improve truly green sources.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:46 pmGerald,
I was actually thinking more along the lines of the radioactive waste just sitting there, waiting for their half-life.
It’s not worth the risk in the long term, in my opinion.
(and accidents have a way of just… happening, no matter the safeguard)
March 21st, 2007 at 9:47 pmIt scares the bejeezus out of me.
We have other ways.
One has to take a close look at the posts by howsad and patrick1. Howsad has been criticizing the democrats for stopping Inhofe for constantly interrupting Gore while he was answering his questions. He calls the democrats hypocrits because he accuses them of doing the same against the Republicans during the Flame hearing. It is not the same. Gore was being interrupted in his response for which he is allowed 1 minute. Inhofe did not want to hear the answer. He calls Flame a liberal hack? She was a CIA agent who is also a democrat. Welcome to America where anyone can choose for whom to vote. Flame was exposing the truth to what happened to her. The ONE person who had created the story that she had sent her husband to Niger later retracted his story. What happened to her affects our national security and should matter to everyone regardless of their party affiliation.
With regards to Patick1 questioning Gore’s credentials to speak on global warming. He has simply been the most consistent politician on this issue for 20 years. He is not a scientist but has become the best spokesperson clearly articulating the issues that have been published in so many peer reviewed journals on this topic. Try to find one published in a peer reviewed journal (not a book or magazine) that refutes the argument. Are all those journals fronts for democrats? This is our world we are talking about. I don’t know where your interests come from. I am not against energy companies because they are important, but are you so concerned about their stock prices going lower to disregard the implications for our planet? Get your head on straight and think about this again.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:48 pmZoo – I you didn’t like my ‘tiny-todgered mysoginists say the darndest things’ at #122? I nearly gave you a hat tip with ‘piss soaked’ prepended to it…. Ah well it went over like my Torquemada jokes….alas…
March 21st, 2007 at 9:51 pmI was actually thinking more along the lines of the radioactive waste just sitting there, waiting for their half-life.
It’s not worth the risk in the long term, in my opinion.
(and accidents have a way of just… happening, no matter the safeguard)
It scares the bejeezus out of me.
We have other ways.
Comment by trueblue
You didnt read the links. I know because of what you said. You will know what I mean if you read them. ALL people should read them. Pebble Bed Nuclear reactors can NOT be compared to any other type of nuclear reactor. They do not produce liquid radioactive waste. They use helium gas that is chemically incapable of gaining radioactive ions.
Pebble Beds also cool down by default according to the laws of physics. They physically can never go chernobyl.
Pebble Beds are CHEAP compared to old style nuclear plants. And they can be almost mass produced.
Pebble Beds would satisify the republicans I would think since it is nuclear… and the left could surprise the world by embracing it because it is very clean energy that only has “doped” or embeded chunks of silicon with solid nuclear material in it. This solid waste can be much more easily protected and stored away.
Pebble Beds can produce hydrogen fuel without producing more polution than they are preventing… for mobile fuel needs such as an emergency back up for cars such as the 100% electric…Tesla… http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1
https://www.pbmr.com/index.asp?content=5
Why won’t the PBMR ever cause a second Chernobyl?
https://www.pbmr.com/download/WhynoChernobyl.pdf
March 21st, 2007 at 10:01 pmIf this would have been a boxing match, the ref would have stopped the fight.
Inohofe was knocked out cold by Boxer.
No word on lasting brain damage, though admittedly that would be kind of hard to determine in Inhofe’s case.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:04 pmWhat else is there to expect from Inhofe? Not only is he dumb as a post, he is corrupted to the core. The idiotic freak has been fed by the oil companies his entire life.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:11 pmWow. Thanks Gerald for the Telsa link. Real American ingenuity. I hope the firm does very well.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:11 pmInhofe is an uneducated, stupid, moron. Moreover, he has been fed at the tits of the oil companies for his entire incompetent life.
The man is a complete moron and a whore. Hopefully, he’ll lose his seat in the next election. That should raise the average IQ among Republicans.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:16 pmInhofe IS A LUDICROUS. MEANINGLESS, OBSTRUCTIONIST, MENDACIOUS, CORRUPT, MONEY-ACCEPTING, ILLEGAL CRIMINAL WHO NEEDS TO BE SUBPOENAED, INDICTED, DRAGGED DOWN FROM HIS OFFICE THAT HE CURRENTLY OCCUPIES, THROWN IN JAIL AND THE KEY THROWN AWAY—-HE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT I PLACE MY GEAS-CURSE UPON, TO BE THROWN OUT OF OFFICE IN 2008 WITH THE REMAINING repugnant-repub rightwingnut crank fudge-pachyderm PIECES OF HYENA-SHIT AND VOMITABLE DISEASE-RIDDEN SEWER RATS!!!!! I WILL MAKE IT ONE OF MY PRIMARY GOALS TO UNSEAT Inhofe AND SEE TO IT THAT HE NEVER IS ABLE TO PERFORM HIS EVIL IN CONGRESS EVER AGAIN—-THAT LEPER-LICKING CREEP!!!!! I WILL PERSONALLY FEED HIS BRIBE-FATTENED CARCASE TO Knut THE CUTE POLAR BEAR CUB—–LET Knut LIVE BUT PUT Newt(Gingrich) DOWN AS WELL!!!!!
March 21st, 2007 at 10:20 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
The fact is that the Left doesn’t want any solutions to Climate Change. They just want to bitch about it and tax people.
Comment by Rodan
Why cant you articulate the use of nuclear energy? I think I have presented a good case on this site… and I consider myself more a liberal than a conservative… yet you dont seem to even know the basics about how to present a positive nuclear alternative to try to convince the left. Maybe that is because you spend more time bitching at liberals than educating yourself about the things you support?
March 21st, 2007 at 10:21 pmWhy the hell does Gore need special qualifications to be able to testify about global warming? This is more of the Expert Cult to which Americans subscribe today. And it’s so not necessary. He cites his sources. Get up off your lazy fucking asses and go check his sources. That’s why he cites them.
And THAT should be the criteria for whether we take someone’s testimony seriously. Do they cite their sources, and are the sources credible? Gee, he’s only quoting the SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
And frankly it wouldn’t matter how many letters each of the people he cites have after their names if their work is sound. Again, look up the damned sources and examine their work. Any idiot with a GED can do a scientific experiment. The real question is whether their work is reproducible–that is, whether someone else can come along and reach the same conclusions using the same methods.
Enough of this “is he an expert” red herring crap. It isn’t about Gore. It’s about the information Gore’s passing on. Is it valid or is it not? Can you prove your point one way or the other? THAT is what IS important. And the world hasn’t got time to wait for you right-wingers out there to get over your hardons for humiliating Gore. Period.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:31 pmAnd by the way, the left DOES offer alternatives to the current petroleum-based energy system. If the right is too lazy and stupid to read what we have to say, whose fault is that? And I’m not just talking hydrogen power, either, or biofuel for that matter.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:33 pmBy the time the Right wakes up to its responsibilities on SO many levels with respect to the habitation of this planet, and I do not really believe that they ever will, their vague hopes of finding and subduing some OTHER poor planet, as Bush has articulated his need to explore MARS, will have shown all of mankind as poor stewards of their own planet.
The constant given of the conservative mindset is use it up and take someone else’s!
March 21st, 2007 at 10:34 pmHere is one of the projects that Al Gore is paying for with his offsets … this one is open to be donated to by anybody that wants to join Al Gore.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/tribalenergy/pdfs/08_rosebud_haukaas.pdf
http://www.nativeenergy.com/popups/offsetting_terms_conditions.html
March 21st, 2007 at 10:35 pmAnd another thing. Us poor, stupid Okies are just melting ice caps and killing polar bears. Unfortunately for that idea, we are in the top 5 for wind power capacity.
http://www.awea.org/news/Annual_Industry_Rankings_Continued_Growth_031506.html
Considering the size of the state and population, that’s not bad. Especially when you compare us to Texas or California. Also funny that the oil barrons and rednecks of Texas are in the top five for capacity, wind resources, and have the 2nd and 3rd largest wind farms.
And again, Oklahoma is 5th in number of hybrids and alternative energy crap for cars.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/ene_alt_fue_veh-energy-alternative-fuel-vehicles
Ironic that we use about a quarter as many such vehicles as California, but have not even a tenth of the population. And we use more per capita, if that makes you feel any better.
I’m not saying we’re a green state by any stretch of the word. But on the other side, we’re not using a gallon of gas to light a tractor tire so we can use smoke signals to tell the power company that we need more juice.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:36 pmGerald-Thanks for the info on PBMR- Help me on this- I didn’t find anything on radioactive waste. I am all for nuclear power if the disposal issue can be solved. I am o.k even if right now they can only certify safe storage for 1,000 years. By that time science will/should have a longer term solution. I have read that cold fussion is ramping up and would of course be the best solution-are you up to date on that? I have read that a multi country effort is taking place.
I generate 30% of my power usage using PV panels-anyone can do this. The problem of course is the cost and pay back period. Goverment help could/should off set the current price driving up to high volume production therefore bringing price down-even rethugs should love the market principles at work.
cheers
March 21st, 2007 at 10:37 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
March 21st, 2007 at 10:37 pmWhat’s the point of discussing the positives with Leftists. I tried expalining that rising temperatures lead to an ice age. Instaed I was attacked.
I presented the evidence and….
Silence.
You’re attacking me because I’m on the right.
Bye the way, I’m not Conservative, I’m a Nationalistic Libertarian.
So I’m against the current regime.
But I don’t like the Dems neither.
The only candidate I like is Rudy, because he’ll do what it takes to change things, Bid Corps, The Media and the Left be dammned.
Since I’m on the right, you had to attack me. Instaed of your right we need Alternatives.
That’s why this country goes nowhere. The Right and LKeft attack instead confronting problems.
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March 21st, 2007 at 10:37 pmI molest children.
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
We already knew that. Hope TP can back track your real info and call the cops.
And if you were just joking you should be castrated anyway because it’s not funny you puke.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:46 pmI tried expalining that rising temperatures lead to an ice age. Instaed I was attacked.
I presented the evidence and….
Silence.
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
O.K I’ll bite-re post that-let’s see what you got. There is a way for that to happen. BTW- I think a “Nationalistic Libertarian” is an oxymoron.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:49 pmComment by Joefriday
In normal nuclear reactors water comes in direct contact with the nuclear fuel rods… this keeps them cool AND radiates the water. Thereby giving you liquid nuclear waste.
From what I have read about the inner workings of pebble beds is that the nuclear fuel are in solid balls and go into a chamber where they get hot and heat helium gas in a pipe which then travels to an area with water where that pipe makes the water turn into steam and drive a turbin.. so no liquid waste.
The fussion reactor is real and it is being built in France I believe right now by America, France, Japan, and Germany I think. It will take about 20 years to get the first one done… which is more of a demo model than a real production model.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:52 pmYog… good comment. Nice to know that at least 49% of Oklahomans are intelligent. I could’nt say that for my own state.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:54 pmBefore ypou call me an anti-Semite let me tell you my Woman is an Israeli Jew. She hates American Jews and I’ve heard it from other Israelis when I went there 3 years agao.
Comment by Rodan — March 21, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
I bet some of your best friends are black too.
You have officially taken the biggest pig troll award for several of your post today.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:55 pmHopefully people will start looking at the bottom of posts and stop reading anything you or the other trolls have to say.
You are a poisonous, vile degenerate.
What’s the point of discussing the positives with Leftists. I tried expalining that rising temperatures lead to an ice age. Instaed I was attacked.
Comment by Rodan
Rising Temperatures CAN cause an ice age… ever hear of equal and opposite reaction? That means if we make the world hotter than normal the world will balance itself out… but not before an equal and opposite reaction… that is how physics work. And so the earth MAY push us into an ice age to balance out the system AFTER we have already gone through a severely heated planet… WE will only see the heated planet before we die… our grandchildren or theirs may see the biggest ice age humans have ever known.
But science cannot accurately computer model that far out so they are going off of what they see happen in nature and say well that MIGHT mean a giant heat wave and THEN an ice age… and THEN normalcy again… only question is will we survive through all of that?
March 21st, 2007 at 10:56 pmrodan, I’m an independent thinker. I’ve incurred the wrath from far left people, on my no-tolerance stance on ILLEGAL immigration.
With that said, how could you possibly consider voting for Giuliani? You’re not aware of his ineptitude at the base of 9/11, the mass confusion that possibly contributed to more deaths, because of the ineffectual comms between the fire departments and the police stations? You might want to read the NYFD’s condemnation of Giuliani, and underline the point they make to new hires to immediately school them on Giuliani’s disregard for their welfare on 9/11. Also, try the EPA’s forced approval of air quality at the ground, causing many civil servants and their sniffing dogs to become ill and die. That guy is a complete joke. But he looks ok in drag.
2) I didn’t read your previous post, just the most recent. With that said, how anyone can possibly think that all of the manmade chemicals and pollution we place into the environment doesn’t have an effect on it, is out of their freakin gourd.
I would suggest that whatever party you’re from, you start paying more attention.
I would also suggest that “conservatives” stop lying or talking themselves into a lie, because from the moment bush lied to the United States to trip us clumsily into a neverending war, wrong on so many things, the republican party is becoming the “party who cried wolf.”
I don’t believe a goddamn thing they say…whereas I used to consider both sides of any issue. I’m on America’s side.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:59 pmIn most stationary pebble-bed reactor designs, fuel replacement is continuous. Instead of shutting down for weeks to replace fuel rods, pebbles are placed in a bin-shaped reactor. A pebble is recycled from the bottom to the top about ten times over a few years, and tested each time it is removed. When it is expended, it is removed to the nuclear waste area, and a new pebble inserted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor
March 21st, 2007 at 11:06 pmAl Gore and Barbara Boxer are each 20 times smarter than Imhofe. Imhofe is an outdated, moronic bumpkin and he should go back to watching bug zapper in his backyard in Oklahoma.
March 21st, 2007 at 11:09 pmEach pebble, within the vessel, is a 60 mm (2.6″) hollow sphere of pyrolytic graphite. The sphere is one containment layer. The design of the pebbles (called “TRISO” fuel) is crucial to the reactor’s simplicity and safety, because they include no less than four of the seven containments. The pebbles are the size of tennis balls. Each weighs 210 g, and has 9 g of uranium. It takes 380,000 to fuel a reactor of 120 MWe. The pebbles are constructed of ceramics that are known not to melt at the maximum equilibrium temperature of the reactor. The ceramics also act as a renewable moderator for the reactor, and are strong containment vessels. In fact, most waste disposal plans for pebble-bed reactors plan to store the waste within the spent pebbles.
The hollow contains fifteen thousand small “seeds” with further containment layers. Each seed surrounds a sand-grain-sized (0.5 mm) kernel of fissionables. Breaking the fissionables into pebbles, and pebbles into seeds assures that the maximum release by a cascade of containment failures will be small—at most the fissionables in one seed.
Each seed, from the inside out, consists of:
the fission fuel in the form of metal oxides or carbides (a containment),
low density porous pyrolytic carbon, high density nonporous pyrolytic carbon (another containment),
a wrapping of silicon carbide (another, fireproof containment),
and another wrapping of pyrolytic carbon (another containment).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor
March 21st, 2007 at 11:12 pmIt’s obvious that if Inhofe wasn’t a senator he’d be a troll here. Just our luck – they all share one brain – it’s incredibly stupid – and it won’t shut its effing mouth for a second.
March 21st, 2007 at 11:18 pmEspecially on global warming threads it is better to look at the bottom and pass up troll posts.
Always proud to vote for Sen. Boxer. She has never once, all these years, let me down. We need more like her!
March 21st, 2007 at 11:34 pmjoshdestardi,
March 21st, 2007 at 11:36 pmIf you raed my posts. I said that a spike in temparatures lead to an Ice Age. The fresh water slows down the Gulkf Stream in the Atlantic.
I provided links and shut down the naysayers.
I then said we need Alternative Energy.
I got attacked for that too.
My point is the Left doesn’t solev anything. They just want to bitch about everything.
As for Rudy, He was there on 9/11 leading the recovery efforts. Most Fireman I spoke with praised him and he was there at the funerals. Hitlery only when to the high profiles one.
Where was she on 9/11?
Was there com problems sure, nobody expected something like this.
He also reduced crime and Taxes in NYC.
That’s a fact.
He took on the Establishmenat and media and won.
He’ll do it nationwide by taking on the Corps, Doros and the Media ands put them in there place so this country can advance.
Always happy to vote for Sen. Boxer. In all these years she has never let me down. We need more like her!
March 21st, 2007 at 11:37 pmZoo – I you didn’t like my ‘tiny-todgered mysoginists say the darndest things’ at #122? I nearly gave you a hat tip with ‘piss soaked’ prepended to it…. Ah well it went over like my Torquemada jokes….alas…
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
I’m sorry, Terry! I missed it!
It was perfect, the most inspired line ever. Will you ever forgive me?
**hanging head in shame**
March 21st, 2007 at 11:40 pmI don’t get the feeling that Rodan is arguing in good faith.
I’m calling it a troll.
March 21st, 2007 at 11:47 pmWATCH THIS.
http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/great_global_warming_swindle.htm
It’s not man. It’s the sun. Gore’s got it backwards.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 am#289 Sure, Ricky, that youtube really convinced me that the vast majority of scientists are wrong. Der.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:31 am[...] };UFO.create(FO,”player578515″);(Hat tip to Think Progress) • • [...]
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 amI don’t get the feeling that Rodan is arguing in good faith.
I’m calling it a troll.
Comment by VerbalKint
That was a hell of a grace period, VK. :P
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:44 am#291 Since his ‘views’ are totally against any sort of concensus among scientists I am guessing he is a troll. I am sure you figured that out pretty fast. :)
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 amBabs is my Senator. I’m proud to be a San Franciscan today.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:54 am#291 I have long refused to talk to morons that use junk science to defend their positions on global warming. They are dead-enders that don’t give a damn about their children and grandchildren.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:55 amPatrick1:
The next few years — especially after the Democrats take over the White House in 2008 and solidify their lead in the Senate — are really going to suck for know-nothing True Believers like you. To paraphrase a favorite politician of yours (no doubt): We feel your pain [in advance. . . and we are laughing hard.]
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 amCan we please retroactively let Oklahoma secede?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 am#295 He wasn’t happy when his people were in power. I am guessing ole Patty won’t be happy until he can complain every day.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 am[...] (Hat tip to Think Progress) [...]
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 amBabs is my Senator. I’m proud to be a San Franciscan today.
Comment by HopeSpringsATurtle — March 22, 2007 @ 12:54 am
Hope, I’m Terry – the Turtle. How’s it going? I passed through San Fran airport last week…. didn’t know there were any progressive thinking turtles in the area….
Ciao
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 amComment by Zooey — March 21, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Ah Zoo you are in the hole now… giving me my Costa Rica flashbacks and missing my best ad hominems….
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:14 am:)
AWESOME!!!! Boxer kicks A@@
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America needs a true patriot, the media has blacked him out!!
However he was able to get a plug on Fox!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyEfd2ZxlGM
Check him out!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:30 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHxQGSiuLf4
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Personally, I don’t even know why you respond to these individuals. If they can’t bring forth a valid argument and are only capable of name calling, ignore them.
It is ann coulter syndrome. Any attention is good attention. Don’t throw any food their way as the quickly bring you to their level.
Boxer did good today, she should share some of her new found backbone with her collegues.
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:45 amMe thinks a purging of the wing nut trolls from TP is long, long overdue. I don’t see any value in tolerating their input any longer.
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:03 amAlthough it might be suggested Inhofe wasted a considerable amount of energy attempting to discredit Al Gore, fact is that – operating on very little mental capacity – the loss was minuscule.
He’s really quite amazing, filling the room with such noise and saying less than nothing.
Is his state like that, too?
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:29 amIt’s not man. It’s the sun. Gore’s got it backwards.
Comment by Rick Sparks
Why would someone make a video to discredit scientists and not present any scientific evidence? They sure complained alot and made opinionated declarations…but that isnt science. They kept saying there is no evidence that CO2 has anything to do with the climate … yet they dont even try to prove it to me… which is NOT what science is about. I have seen the Gore film and all the info dug up by TP.. and I prefer the evidence they provide… time lines… historical records, charts ploting the rise and fall of CO2 and heat changes over 100,000s of years… why cant the right try to use REASON to convince me? I dont care about their bitch sessions …. and especially not an hour of it going on and on…what a waste of time that was.
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:37 amGood thing Crazy Al Gore lost in 2000, or we’d probably have had a major terrorist attack, and a nuclear North Korea, and a massive debt, and probably some totally inept response to a major natural disaster (stupid Dimocrats), and we’d probably have ceded East Asian influence to China and Russia, and prolly have gotten bogged down in some stupid military adventurism (like Kosovo only much worse, with over 100,000 troops and 30,000+ permanent injuries and deaths, and no exit strategy).
You dumbass liberals. Al Gore woulda been the worst president ever.
Comment by Patrick1 — March 21, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
patrick1 must be a faux troll. There’s no way anyone this idiotic would survive…
we’d probably have had a major terrorist attack,
Lucky Putsch hit the trifecta when his pResidency was starting to sink six months after he stole the 2000 election, and after his first month long vacation while pResendting (it’s hard… it’s hard work!)
By the way, who did he steal the trifecta line from again?
and a nuclear North Korea,
would you settle for Iran?
and a massive debt,
unlike the one that dwarfs the Ray-Gun debt acquisitions of the Eighties that Putsch has given us since he stole the federal pRseidential election the first time?
and probably some totally inept response to a major natural disaster (stupid Dimocrats),
coughcoughcoughKatrinacoughcough
and we’d probably have ceded East Asian influence to China and Russia,
hmmmm… let me think about this for a moment…
We had influence in East Asia? At any time that the Drunken Cokeheaded Deserter has been illegally occupying the White House? Pull the other one…
and prolly have gotten bogged down in some stupid military adventurism (like Kosovo only much worse, with over 100,000 troops and 30,000+ permanent injuries and deaths, and no exit strategy)
Boy, those Republican’t talking points seem to be working out so well these days…
Smarter ditto monkeys, please!
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:01 amComment by (: Tom :)
It is obvious the qoute you are responding to is someone other than Patrick1 using his name… its called sarcasm.
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:07 amBarbara Boxer reduced Inhofe to Milton Waddams: (The nerdy guy in “Office Spaceâ€)
“But, but, Mr. Gore isn’t answering my questions. I asked him a question and he didn’t answer the question and he keeps talking about things that make me look foolish and you took away the Swingline Staplers and replaced them with the Boston Staplers, but I kept my Swingline Stapler because it doesn’t bind up as much and you moved my desk away from the windows and I used to be able to watch the squirrels and they were married and if you don’t let me cut off Mr. Gore, I’m going to burn the Congress down.â€
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:08 amShe’s a moron. All I hear is Gore back tracking and not answering the question. Very typical of a politician… Gore can’t answer it because his lifestyle would be changed, he doesn’t want that. Special treatment prior to the hearing as well, the Dems are whacked out and ready to cheat the Americans out of more of our money.
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:43 amShe’s a moron. All I hear is Gore back tracking and not answering the question. Very typical of a politician… Gore can’t answer it because his lifestyle would be changed, he doesn’t want that. Special treatment prior to the hearing as well, the Dems are whacked out and ready to cheat the Americans out of more of our money.
Comment by Ron — March 22, 2007 @ 8:43 am
the pledge Gore was being asked to make was ridiculous… he’s got a bigger house than most people… there’s no way he’s going to use less energy… Inhofe was making an ass of himself, and a spectacle of the hearings… THIS was a “show trial,” to use the words of Bush and Tony Snow…
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:48 amthe republicans chose to either run out the clock or infect the democratic body of our government with tragic consequences such as an immoral and illegal attack on a vulnerable nation, the so-called patriot act that only forces Americans to baselessly snitch and feed on other Americans, attack other Americans’ tragedy and misfortune such as the 9/11 attacks and hurricaine katrina disaster and infect the process with their disdain, ignorance, and willful indifference. ours is not a stagnant government where you can throw obstacles in its’ path to drive it off-course-it must flow continuously onward to progress-the kind of progress we can ALL recognize. the kind where you shouldn’t have to play global climate ‘pictionary’ with the likes of senator inhofe.
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:50 amPatrick1-
What are the qualifications of Gore to speak on this topic before the U.S. Congress?
I’ll ask you this–what on Earth were the qualifications for Terri Schiavo to testify to the U.S. Congress on anything? The Republican majority planned to subpoena her to appear, and she didn’t even have brain functions!
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 am#311 – “The Republican majority planned to subpoena her (Terri Schiavo) to appear, and she didn’t even have brain functions!” Comment by Brittain33 — March 22, 2007 @ 9:05 am
Which proves that the Republican Party values mindless pandering to their cause while holding a completely different standard for anyone/everyone else.
Double Standards, thy party is Republican!
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:40 amThe Republican majority planned to subpoena her (Terri Schiavo) to appear, and she didn’t even have brain functions!
Comment by Brittain33
Nor do most neoCONs nowadays.
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:30 amSo once these hearings are over, is there plans to implement something? I hope. We have talked about this way to long as we watched this problem get worse. They need to cap our emissions to 1990 levels and then set a reduction goal of at least 30% by 2020. Furthermore, we need to force China, India, and Russia to join us but this is only doable after we set up these mandates ourselves. Anyways, are they planning endless talks or are they getting ready to roll out a plan to reduce our emissions already?
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:00 am[...] Boxer Slams Down Inhofe’s Global Warming Filibuster: ‘You Don’t Make The Rules Anymore’ • Gore: ‘If The Crib’s On Fire, You Don’t Speculate That The Baby Is Flame-Retardant’ [...]
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:09 amFormer Vice President Al Gore refused to take a “Personal Energy Ethics Pledge†today to consume no more energy than the average American household. The pledge was presented to Gore by Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, during today’s global warming hearing.
Senator Inhofe showed Gore a film frame from “An Inconvenient Truth†where it asks viewers: “Are you ready to change the way you live?â€
It has been reported that many of these so-called carbon offset projects would have been done anyway. Also, carbon offset projects such as planting trees can take decades or even a century to sequester the carbon emitted today. So energy usage today results in greenhouse gases remaining in the atmosphere for decades, even with the purchase of so-called carbon offsets.
“There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don’t give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do,†Senator Inhofe told Gore.
“Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?†Senator Inhofe asked.
A gimmick? Yes. A stunt? Yes. But it’s one that Gore has opened himself up to. That’s the problem with moralistic, messianic crusading — people expect you to live up to it.
posted at 07:48 PM by Glenn Reynolds
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 amThe Republican majority planned to subpoena her to appear, and she didn’t even have brain functions!
Terri has much in common with Algore.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:43 amRog – since you’ve got such a hardon for China and India – why don’t you write them about it – ain’t a goddamned thing anyone in here can do about their development plans.
Pattycake – seriously dude – whoever wants to hear Rush’s take on these things can tune in to his show – you don’t need to pop in and repeat it to us daily…..same goes for Reynolds and his bs blog.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:55 amOne of the most disappointing and irritating things is reading the blogs of persons like Patrick1 and those of his ilk, who interpret everything from an ideological perspective—liberals or conservative. I challenge anyone to read every word of the Patrick1 blogs, think about what they just read, and they would soon ascertain the nonsense for what it is—unequivocal garbage. These people (like the Limbaugh types) just give conservatism a bad name. They are angry and to top things off, they can’t write or communicate concepts or ideas. There is still hope, however. They can recitify the problem by making an effort to educate themselves. Good grief, use the library!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmHey Patrick1, I like your 315 statement. Until you walk the walk you are a blow hard, which Al gore clearly is. I live in Marin and Boxxer is also a Blow Hard as is Diane F. Boxxer runs around in her Boxter wearing fur coats, some democrat! They are all as rich as Emler Fudd but claim to be for the little people. What they are for is cheep labor, they don’t have to live next to a house full of illegal imagrants who don’t know about trash collection days. How any one can look up to any of these people is beyond me and how ‘we’ keep re-electing them baffles me.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:20 pmAl Gore may well have been the worst President ever but W got there first.
#210 – It’s not about Left vs Right.. it’s about right vs wrong. Just so happens it is mostly (90%) Left = right in this country. Sorry about that “Inconvenient Truth” my friend!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:27 pmIf you are going to try to convert others to your religion don’t you think you at least should know where the church is? Gore is lost.
No one yet has given me any qualifications that Gore has that makes him worth listening to on this faux-religion of global warming.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:30 pmWhy can’t I watch?
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:30 pmAl Gore and Barbara Boxer are each 20 times smarter than Imhofe.
There brain power comes from eating one fetus a day.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:34 pmComment by Patrick1
Funny how the right now demands Gore live a communist live style. Is that what you have in mind for all of America you righties? Make everyone live the same? Changing how we get our energy or buying newer more energy efficient light bulbs, computers, cars etc… is what is being promoted. Making everyone live at the level of the “average American household” is communism and apparently now republicanism.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:34 pmIf the energy you consume was derived from a wind farm which has no CO2 output, then why should you limit your energy use? You are carbon neutral and not a part of the problem. It’s a political maneuver on infole’s part, nothing more. If the statement was “use the same as the average american coal energy OR use solar/wind energy, then the pledge makes sense. Al Gore was trying to make that point, but he kept getting interrupted. If he said “no” he’ll look like an ass, so he had to explain why first. Man you gore-haters will stoop to making up ANYTHING.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:35 pmI want Gore to practice what he preaches. I agree he is preaching socialism disquised as religion. He wants everyone living in caves but him of course.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmI can tell you for a fact that Gore’s Belle Meade mansion is not run by wind power.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pmFlaco is immoral.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmI can tell you for a fact that Gore’s Belle Meade mansion is not run by wind power.
Comment by Patrick1
Please do. Links please.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:46 pmI agree that Gore is selling old style socialism under the cover of a faux-religion. Gore is your typical limo liberal, he wants everyone living in a cave but him.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmDemocrat Soldier is god!
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:50 pmFlaco is immoral.
Comment by Democrat Soldier
Thanks for the compliment.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pmYou made my day.
I am afraid the debate over Global Warming is turning into the same thing as the debate over Abortion.
Neither side is going to convince the other to change, and ultimately they just end up spewing insults at one another.
It’s kinda sad to see what could be a mature, scientific debate turn into a “who can flame who the worst” contest.
I don’t necessarily believe Global Warming is the tragedy many are making it out to be, but I LIKE to hear what Al Gore says, and I like to hear the counterpoints to what he says. We get nowhere by shouting each other down…in fact, we go backwards.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmhttp://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659
An another thing moonbat. Gore lives in a very exclusive area of Nashville with very strict codes, windmills are not allowed other than the ones Gore tilts at in his head.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmIncidentally, Gore refused to sign a pledge to reduce his own energy usage, so, I guess, if your baby has a fever, that doesn’t mean you should stop coughing on him.
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmThe planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, ‘Well, I read a science fiction novel that told me it’s not a problem.’”
Not the kind analogy that gets people afraid. He * “The planet is a bag of chipmunks hanging over a active woodchipper by a single weak thread.”
* “The planet is a passenger trapped in a speeding car that’s going head on into traffic and while being driven by a man with poor vision who is high on cocaine.”
* “The planet is a puppy in the house of a very thirsty Glenn Reynolds.”
* “The planet is knocked out in the trunk of a car being driven towards the docks by Italian-Americans with ties to organized crime.”
* “The planet is a fool for which Mr. T has run out of pity.”
* “The planet is an ensign in an episode of Star Trek who you’ve never seen previously and he’s going on an away mission with Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.”
* “The planet is a beloved videogame being made into a movie by Uwe Boll.”
* “The planet just married Yoko Ono and wants to take things in a new direction.”
* “The planet just replaced E.D. Hill with Gretchen Carlson.”
* “The planet is an Indian kid who loves to hula who somehow keeps making it through each round of America Idol.”
* “The planet is New Coke.”
* “The planet is a candied ham sitting in front of a hungry hungry Rosie O’Donnell.”
* “The planet is a new game system costing $600 and having no significant launch titles.”
* “The planet is a Jew who took a wrong turn and ended up in the middle of Mecca.”
* “The planet is small and moving and a cat has spotted it.”
needs some new ones.
Here are a few from IMAO.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 pmWhat qualifications does Senator Inhofe have to refute Mr. Gore’s statement? I see none, other than he doesn’t like any indirect criticism of his beloved Exxon. So what qualifications does Mr. Inhofe have?
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 pmpattycakes, you sad sad man….
you’re just like Steve Grogan, jumping up and down in the court room with the rest of the family, trying to defame Vince Bugliosi. You think you’re accomplishing something, but 100% of your observers see a kook hopping up and down spouting jibber-jabber.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:11 pm[...] I (heart) Barbara Boxer. Seriously. [...]
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmWhat are the qualifications of Gore to speak on this topic before the U.S. Congress?
What qualifications does Senator Inhofe have to refute Mr. Gore’s statement?
There are no restrictions on who can suggest and study a phenomena, just as there are no restrictions on who can study and criticize one.
“Status” and/or “Authority” have no place in science. Ask Aristotle…(Mr. Earth is the center of the universe)… about that.
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:46 pmLove it! Boxer should have slammed him a little earlier tho. Those damn republicans with bad manners and bad politics…
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:47 pmTestimony from the Goracle
come on Gore take that pledge
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmOMG! Thank you for putting this clip up. Inhofe was amazingly rude to Gore and Boxer called him on it.
Maybe EPA will see their budget restored as a result of all this. Bush has been cutting huge chunks for the past 6 years. WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMEN!!
P.S. Gore purchases credits – just like all the big companies Bush lets purchase credits to off-set their pollution.
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:35 pm[...] yesterday, James Inhofe (R-Republic of Asshattery) was barely letting him get a word in edgewise, then: “Committee chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-CA) finally intervened. ‘Would you agree to let [...]
March 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmHa!!! Inhofe is such an ass.
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:11 pmImagine that! Gore uses more energy in one day than Africa does in a year. I guess the shape of a raw diamond ( a double-pyramid) allows DeBeers to use the same pyramid energy geberated by the Aswan Dam nack up in Egypt. Dam them Gores!
Hey Patrick1. Gore uses more mental energy in one day than you do in a year, that’s clear. But I intend to make the right-wing pay the energy bill of the PNAC adventurism, as well as restitution for all the sex change operations or whatever they did to make a nation who stared down nuclear annhialation for 40 years suddenly pee their panties over the threat of suicide bomber…..in the Middle East no less.
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmGreen in more ways than one…
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March 22nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmflake-o – grab a can of pledge and a paper sack and huff yourself unconscious, wouldja? or was it huffing that got you all brain-damaged in the first place. whatever the case, keep working on that GED and someday you can be rich like those people you worship – all it takes is hard work and dedication, you know.
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:50 pmWhat are the qualifications of Gore to speak on this topic before the U.S. Congress? This is getting real old I know, but I have to add that VP Gore certainly has significantly greater basis for his statements than Inhofe’s buddy Michael Crichton!! The past Republican congress (Man I love saying that!) actually relied on the testimony of a science fiction writer to address the the issue of global warming! Even if you don’t believe in the occurance of GW (inhofe), at least bring in a credible witness to support your case!! WOW!
That’s what it’s all about for the Republicans; it’s just a story of power and grabbing what you can get. All those bitching about the Dem’s and their use of power; isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black considering the procedural mandates the Republicans used to prevent the Democrats from participating in the government process for the last 6 years!!
March 22nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmI’m still waiting for anyone to list Gore’s credentials on this topic other than being just another limo liberal…waiting…waiting…chirp..chirp..chirp…..
March 22nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmAn another thing moonbat. Gore lives in a very exclusive area of Nashville with very strict codes, windmills are not allowed other than the ones Gore tilts at in his head.
Comment by Patrick1
I love it when you right wingers post links that discredit your own argument… you guys do the same thing with the “Gore lost in 2000″ BS… you post links that clearly say he won in 2000 if all votes were counted… but anyways… here is a qoute from the article YOU linked…
The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries to offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the local Green Power Switch program — electricity generated through renewable resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create less waste and pollution.
March 22nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmGive me a break, the only real concern here was someone dared question Gore’s alarmist exagerrations. He not only wants America to foot the bill for the world but even were his radical plans to be implemented fully they’d have little effect, which is really pathetic considering how minimal this issue truly is if you can look at objective science and review history beyond the last 75 years.
March 22nd, 2007 at 6:21 pmI’m still waiting for anyone to list Gore’s credentials on this topic other than being just another limo liberal…waiting…waiting…chirp..chirp..chirp…..
Comment by Patrick1
Gore isnt producing his own scientific data.. so he doesnt need any credentials… he is repeating what the scientists are telling him and using his star power to get their voices out… pretty simple to understand for a thinking person.
March 22nd, 2007 at 6:24 pmGive me a break, the only real concern here was someone dared question Gore’s alarmist exagerrations. He not only wants America to foot the bill for the world but even were his radical plans to be implemented fully they’d have little effect, which is really pathetic considering how minimal this issue truly is if you can look at objective science and review history beyond the last 75 years.
Comment by Linda
And we should believe anything you have to say why? You are irrelevant.
March 22nd, 2007 at 6:25 pmI could watch this over, and over, and over again…
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:13 pm[...] these things. So I was curious as to what Al Gore was saying in D.C. yesterday, about energy. And found a clip of the hearing that displayed Gore’s response to where he bought his electricity (carbon neutral) from and [...]
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:19 pmI was about to post the quote from the link Patrick1 posted that contradicts his own statement.
And now this certainly clears up the whole hypocrite mess. I’m pessimistic about politicians so I thought it could certainly be true that Gore was a hypocrite but I’m glad to know it was all hot air. The problems seems to be the steamrolling of anti-Gore propaganda which is focusing on discrediting Gore. I am skeptical of many of his assertions but these propaganda tactics certainly aren’t helping anyone find any “truth.” In this case it is evidently fueling misinformation, perhaps very effectively.
(2/27/07 – NASHVILLE, TN) – Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the Oscar awarded to “An Inconvenient Truth,” the documentary he inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore’s environmental hypocrisy.
Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for the Gores, did not dispute the Center’s figures, taken as they were from public records. But she pointed out that both Al and Tipper Gore work out of their home and she argued that “the bottom line is that every family has a different carbon footprint. And what Vice President Gore has asked is for families to calculate that footprint and take steps to reduce and offset it.”
A carbon footprint is a calculation of the CO2 fossil fuel emissions each person is responsible for, either directly because of his or her transportation and energy consumption or indirectly because of the manufacture and eventual breakdown of products he or she uses. (You can calculate your own carbon footprint on the website http://www.carbonfootprint.com/)
The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries to offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the local Green Power Switch program — electricity generated through renewable resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create less waste and pollution. “In addition, they are in the midst of installing solar panels on their home, which will enable them to use less power,” Kreider added. “They also use compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy efficiency measures and then they purchase offsets for their carbon emissions to bring their carbon footprint down to zero.”
– http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659
The argument presented to rebut this is essentially claiming the whole carbon footprint measurement is useless but I don’t see any attempt at a compelling case to refute this.
If you claim to be a Libertarian this is actually one of the few solutions popular in Libertyarian circles because it utilizes the market and economic systems to deal with environmentalist issues. I have no idea what a “Nationalist Libertarian” is. I have been studying Libertarianism ideas for a couple years now and I’ve never even heard the term once.
And Libertarianism shouldn’t be an excuse to be a beligerant partisan while decrying the partisanship of other parties. This is an incredible contradiction (hypocricy?).
It is paramount to the advancement of new ideas that one is able to communicate them clearly and effectively. Derriding everyone else for not adopting your position without adaquately explaining what that position is and while pre-emptively insulting the people you are supposedly trying to “convince” is one of the most ineefective strategies I can think of. Also reducing the politics of foriegn countries to — my wife hates these people and so do her friends, so thats what their country thinks of that — does not make an incredible argument either.
It actually accomplishes very little other than saying “I don’t like you, and neither do my friends, so there.”
If you truely do want action for a real change that doesn’t resort to rabid partisanship try not relying on rabid partisanship for your justifications.
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:49 pmYou have been schooled.
You’re welcome.
March 22nd, 2007 at 8:01 pmOne of the top anti-science propogandists is a man named Steven Milloy. He is or has been a lobbyist for “American Petroleum Institute, Dow Chemical, the International Food Additives Council, and FMC Corporation.[16].”
He also denied scientific studies that present the health risks of second hand smoke. “During the time that Milloy was attacking the credibility of secondhand-smoke research, his junkscience.com website was receiving editorial oversight and content directly from the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[6] Milloy’s supposedly independent organization TASSC was funded and coordinated by Philip Morris[7] with the goal of “utilizing TASSC as a tool in targeted legislative battles.”[8] A confidential 1994 Philip Morris memo listed Milloy’s organization under “PM Tools to Affect Legislative Decisions”.[9] Milloy himself was listed on Philip Morris’ payroll, being budgeted over $180,000 in payments in the years 2000 and 2001.[10]”
His site Junkscience.com is a clearinghouse for anti-science propaganda related to the industries he has lobbied for.
“The guidebook Washington Representatives described Milloy as a registered lobbyist employed by the EOP Group in 1996.[21] Milloy is also listed as a lobbyist in the federal United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program.[15] The non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics also lists Milloy as a registered lobbyist from 1998 through 2000…”
“Milloy has denied ever working as a lobbyist, writing in an email in 1998:
“I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists (whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer work for that firm.[22]
“However, as of October 2006, Milloy remains listed as a registered lobbyist in the above federal and non-governmental databases.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Milloy
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmOn Milloy’s journalistic ethics:
Milloy is a paid advocate for Phillip Morris and R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[5][28][6][10] The content of junkscience.com, which is represented as independent, has been reviewed, revised, and edited by R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[6]
In January 2006, Paul D. Thacker reported in The New Republic that Milloy, who is presented by Fox News as an independent journalist, was under contract to Philip Morris through the end of 2005.[5] Philip Morris documents showed that Milloy was budgeted hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments while writing for FoxNews.com.[10] In the May/June 2005 issue of Mother Jones, Chris Mooney reported that non-profit organizations operated out of Milloy’s home have also received large payments from ExxonMobil during his tenure with Fox News.[29][5]
A spokesperson for Fox News stated, “Fox News was unaware of Milloy’s connection with Philip Morris. Any affiliation he had should have been disclosed.”[5] Regarding ties to ExxonMobil, a Fox News spokesperson stated that Milloy is “…affiliated with several not-for-profit groups that possibly may receive funding from Exxon, but he certainly does not receive funding directly from Exxon.”[29]
Journalists who take money to write pieces favorable to corporate interests are widely considered to be breaching journalistic ethics.[30][31][32][33] Milloy’s association with the Cato Institute has since ended; however, as of October 2006, he continues to write for FoxNews.com, where he is described as a “junk science expert.”[34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Milloy
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmIf everyone used as much electricity as Al Gore we would have 5x the number of power plants in the US as we currently have. Wind generation represents a tiny fraction of electricity generation. Electricity is mostly generated from Coal. Im afraid Al Gore is a hypocrite…
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 pm“If everyone used as much electricity as Al Gore we would have 5x the number of power plants in the US as we currently have. Wind generation represents a tiny fraction of electricity generation. Electricity is mostly generated from Coal. Im afraid Al Gore is a hypocrite…”
Comment by mike D — March 22, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Except his home is also the site of both his and his wife’s businesses and that he does actually use wind power and alternateive sources to meet his energy needs. If 5x the amount of power were used with 5x the amount of alternative energy resources instead of carbon based energy resources the point is there would still be less pollution because of the use of alternative energy. The reality is that it would be prohibitively expensive to use that much alternative energy, especially since it much more difficult to harness these sources in larger quantities.
March 22nd, 2007 at 9:57 pmIf everyone used as much electricity as Al Gore we would have 5x the number of power plants in the US as we currently have. Wind generation represents a tiny fraction of electricity generation. Electricity is mostly generated from Coal. Im afraid Al Gore is a hypocrite…
Comment by mike D
Actually you have just proven yourself a fool.
Al Gore like EVERY American MUST use coal based electricity and gasoline because that is what the age of industrialization before us has left for us to use. NOW with the leadership of people like Al Gore we are working to get rid of old and inefficient ways of obtaining energy by replacing coal plants with many many more wind energy generators as well as other sources.
Asking for change in a system that you are currently dependent on does not make you a hypocrite.. it makes you someone wanting to make a change…
Really simple to understand for those that are not simple minded.
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmFalse Dilema
The logical fallacy of false dilemma—also known as false choice, false dichotomy, falsified dilemma, fallacy of the excluded middle, black and white thinking, false correlative, either/or fallacy and bifurcation—involves a situation in which two alternative statements are held to be the only options, when in reality there exist one or more other options which have not been considered. The two alternatives presented are often, though not always, the two extreme points on some spectrum. Instead of such extreme simplification and wishful thinking, considering the whole spectrum, as in fuzzy logic, may be more appropriate. A typical false dilemma is the assertion “You are either for us or you are against us.” The fallacy of this type of argument is that it tries to eliminate the middle ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:13 pmAd hominem (esp. ad hominem tu quoque)
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument. It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument’s proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.
Other common subtypes of the ad hominem include the ad hominem circumstantial, or ad hominem circumstantiae, an attack which is directed at the circumstances or situation of the arguer; and the ad hominem tu quoque, which objects to an argument by characterizing the arguer as being guilty of the same thing that he is arguing against.
as logical fallacy:
A (fallacious) ad hominem argument has the basic form:
Person A makes claim X
There is something objectionable about Person A
Therefore claim X is false
Ad hominem is one of the best known of the logical fallacies usually enumerated in introductory logic and critical thinking textbooks. Both the fallacy itself, and accusations of having committed it, are often brandished in actual discourse (see also Argument from fallacy). As a technique of rhetoric, it is powerful and used often because of the natural inclination of the human brain to recognize patterns.[attribution needed]
In contrast, an argument that instead relies (fallaciously) on the positive aspects of the person arguing the case is known as appeal to authority.
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:18 pmThe previous post is an excerpt of
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Actually you have just proven yourself a fool.
Al Gore like EVERY American MUST use coal based electricity and gasoline because that is what the age of industrialization before us has left for us to use. NOW with the leadership of people like Al Gore we are working to get rid of old and inefficient ways of obtaining energy by replacing coal plants with many many more wind energy generators as well as other sources.
Asking for change in a system that you are currently dependent on does not make you a hypocrite.. it makes you someone wanting to make a change…
Really simple to understand for those that are not simple minded.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — March 22, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Nice try, but the fact is we all make choices. We can choose to live in large houses and have $1200 monthly electricity bills, as I believe Al gore has. Or we can live more modestly, not consume as much energy, and contribute significantly by truly reducing your carbon footprint. You can choose to drive an SUV, or choose an environmentaly friendly hybrid car.
Al Gores arguments would have more merit if he was not such an abuser of our environment himself. Im in the power industry, and most electricity, in Tennessee in particular, is generated from Coal. If he rises early one morning and turns on the lights, the power is being generated from Coal, period.
There is simply no argument that Al Gore is a hypocrite.
March 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmHa Ha! Hey, give the devil her do, she’s good. I have to admit it was funny to watch.
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmComment by mike D
So you are openly declaring support for the communist life style? Wow that is… astonishing…
REAL Americans believe in living a life that we have built for ourselves which means living in a technological world. We dont want to use LESS electricity. We want to use MORE… just not coal or oil based. Real simple isnt it? Or are you not an American so you dont get it?
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:41 pm[...] them) that exhibit a noticeable and willing detachment from reality." In addition to yesterday’s outburst, this is in honor of the Senator’s (R – OK) entire body of work including the [...]
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:37 amThe Republican response to Al Gore, at his appearance on Capitol Hill, is exactly what one would expect. See:
Al Gore at the Senate
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:35 amIf Al Gore believes in tha environment so much why ain’t he invented free energy magnetic levitation belts so we can fly to our jobs without no gas at all? And how come he ain’t invented no way of us living without having to eat or drink, like maybe using solar psychic power or something? What a dam hipocrit.
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:36 amI proposed we use energon cubes as a viable energy alternative
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:23 pmThank God I’m not from Oklahoma.
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:30 pm[...] Barbara Boxer is my new girlfriend. And how big of a dick is Inhofe? [...]
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmImhoffe is a bigger Donkey than anyone in the Democratic party. In fact he is an Elephant sized donkey and I think you all know what I mean by that.
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmAl Gore like EVERY American MUST use coal based electricity and gasoline because that is what the age of industrialization before us has left for us to use. NOW with the leadership of people like Al Gore we are working to get rid of old and inefficient ways of obtaining energy by replacing coal plants with many many more wind energy generators as well as other sources.
Asking for change in a system that you are currently dependent on does not make you a hypocrite.. it makes you someone wanting to make a change…
Really simple to understand for those that are not simple minded.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr
No Gerald, you seem to be the one who’s simple minded. Al Gore doesn’t have to buy a large house and pool house that use 10 times that of the American household. He doesn’t have to fly in a private plane, which uses more than 50 times the jet fuel that his seat in a commercial flight would have used. He chooses to because he feels that he is above you and me. He has been using global warming as a political move, not because he really cares so much about the topic. Hell, he may secretly not even beleive in it. The point is that in America today, it is popular and even fashionable to wave the global warming banner. It’s kinda like the Miss America contestant saying she wishes for world peace or an end to hunger. Why do you think his crappy movie won two academy awards? He knows that more than half the country beleives the b.s., many of whom are passionate about it. So he has decided to project himself as the poster-child of the end to global warming. So that when the next election comes around, people will remember him as the messiah who saved the world from it’s own destruction. So I’m asking you Gerald and everyone else here to rise above it. Don’t be a dumb sheep that Gore can lead around. Think for yourselves. Do your research. If you combine both common sense and knowledge, you will find that the earth has always gone through warming and cooling cycles on it’s own. Are scientists really that much smarter now than they were thirty years ago when they were warning us about global cooling and mass starvation? Wake up people. The news media needs something to talk about when they have no stories. And what do they choose? You guessed it, global warming. No global warming means no newspapers sales, no filler for the CBS evening news, and no money. It doesn’t matter that there are many climatologists out there who disagree with Al Gore. He doesn’t mention them in his movie. He claims that there is a consensus among all scientists. The disagreeing climatologists get shunned by journalists like Tom Brokaw. They are considered radical and have been accused of being funded by the oil companies. Why can’t people see that? It’s time for Americans to think for themselves and not form opinions based on what Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw or even Al Gore say.
March 23rd, 2007 at 3:37 pmGlobal Warming is REAL – Just ask the Eskimoes and Dinosaurs….Seriously, the politics of Global Warming is the frightening aspect of this “disaster”. Environmenatlists who sincerely wish to conserve DON’T buy their way out with pollution credits – they live like Ed Begley Jr. Concerned citizens of the planet wouldn’t be slamming the US while excusing India and China. (And, yes, oh smug Ones, I AM aware our population is smaller than our consuption – SO is our OUPUT.)
This is about reducing the standard of living and power of the United States – period.
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:30 pmOn one side we have Mr. Inhofe (who may or not have a neck), Mr. Bush, major companies and many ignorant Americans.
The other side has 99% of the relevant scientists (”why do scientists hate America?”), the most intelligent people in the planet and melting polar caps.
It would be nice if the effects were limited to the folks who created and try to maintain this situation, unfortunately it will those with the least who will suffer the most.
It is a shame that the USA has a cretin like Inhofe as a senator, but then…
March 23rd, 2007 at 9:44 pmJake,
I am probably talking to someone who is beyond deprogramming, put you do realize that Al Gore was there to give information to the Senate about a national issue. He was not there to be confirmed for anything.
This is not a confirmation process you twit. He was invited to give information. He was invited to speak! Surely you can understand that this is not the same as a Senator choosing to use His time discussing the issue of a confirmation to give His opinions about the perspective nominee. It is quite a different purpose you understand? Why would Al Gore want to come to the Senate to hear James Inhofe’s opinion?
In fact, why would anyone want to hear his opinion?
March 24th, 2007 at 9:13 amOn behalf of all thinking, rational, respectful and patriotic Oklahomans, I offer an apology to the rest of the nations – nay, to the rest of the civilized world – for allowing Jim Inhofe to have this forum. He brings shame on us. Will Rogers must be spinning in his grave.
March 24th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI agree with Senator Boxer. Sen. Inhofe is my Senator, I reside in Oklahoma. Inhofe is an arrogant pompice ass! He’s an idiot! and I’m ashamed of him. Boxer did the right thing to keep order and decorrum in her commitee, and she spoke the truth. Don’t try to make a “travesty” out of the U.S. Senate, Inhofe is a “travesty” in and of himself and this state. He really showed his ‘true colors’, as a person and a senator, and I’m ashamed of this and him.
steve
March 25th, 2007 at 2:17 amPatrick 1: What are your qualifications to speak to us on this message board? You said we won’t listen to Gore until he joins to fight the war in Iraq. When are you joining to fight that war?
You are a sand-box smart-mouth with little substance.
March 25th, 2007 at 2:41 pmEl Cid…. go back to your sandbox until you have learned to speak the English language correctly to give your opinions a little credibilty.
Then show up at my school and we will teach you the difference between fact and opinion so you can engage in debate, again with some credibility.
Conservative side-stepping of issues, otherwise known as spin, does not help us find the real answers to the dilemma and hasn’t for the past 6 years.
March 25th, 2007 at 2:47 pm[...] James Inhofe’s childish game of “gotcha” at the Senate hearing on global warming (watch the video here), I have to say I’m pretty disappointed in the former vice president’s response. [...]
March 25th, 2007 at 2:48 pm[...] as head of the Senate Environment Committee, James Inhofe (R-OK) looks increasingly isolated as he continues to thunder against “being too alarmist” on the issue from his position in the minority. By contrast, many of his Republican colleagues [...]
March 28th, 2007 at 12:13 am[...] Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attempts to silence Al Gore by highlighting his above average energy use. The rightwing media outlets have orchestrated a similar attack against Gore. The hypocrisy argument is an emotionally satisfying way to justify inaction, but it is counter-productive in practice. Imagine if the US was asked by other UN members to halt all trade with nuclear weapon capable countries that have not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (India, Pakistan and Israel has yet to sign up) before they would participate in sanctions against Iran. One may think this a flawed analogy since nuclear proliferation is different in nature from pollution. However, since fossil fuels are fungible resources in the global economy, Jevons Paradox comes into play. If a minority stop buying gas, the price of gas drops due to lower demand which makes it more affordable to the majority who are still burning the stuff so they end up burning more of it. Maybe this is the real reason behind Crichton’s and Inhofe’s demands. [...]
March 28th, 2007 at 9:42 am[...] Senator Inhofe behaved childishly when Gore spoke before Senate later that day. Fortunately, Senator Barbara Boxer quashed Inhofe’s blatant [...]
March 28th, 2007 at 3:52 pm[...] Boxer are handling these types of scared little men with grace and composure. Watch Sen. Inhofe get his power play snuffed as he unscrupulously attempts to railroad Al Gore. When women in power show strength to insecure [...]
March 28th, 2007 at 9:29 pm[...] moral issues like abortion, gay rights, and capital gains tax reductions. And, after getting a reprimand from Senator Barbara Boxer, Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe is trying to block the U.S. Capitol from becoming a venue for the [...]
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April 10th, 2007 at 10:44 pmI think global warming sunk the titanic, killed my cat and sends spam to my email account. I think I will vote democratic, because, they will make sure that enough taxes get paid for me, so that one day I can afford carbon offset energy too and sit around and make more children, at least 12, so then we can buy more green energy and thumb our noses at all the people in traffic as we drive our overpriced hybrids alone in the carpool lane.
jesus christ. no wonder it takes so long and nothing gets done. this is a very serious issue and everybody’s playing games. the crucial topic gets blind sided. are these people not educated enough to know how to articulate and get to the point? appalled.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmActually Gore didn’t purchase carbon offsets. These offsets were from wind, and other green energy… Just because u don’t like Gore, or maybe so-called liberals, global warming is not a liberal issue. It’s an issue for your grandkids and everyone her. An actually where he lives, it’s illegal to have solar power energy on a house. How’s that for taking away our rights as Americans. People who buy these are usually rich anyway so why not let rich people use them to not suck our energy.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:42 amIt’s funny how President Bush can be so careful and cautious about some supposed threat from Iraq, but not with global warming. Ok fine let’s take this idea of preemption we did with Iraq and make sure that we fight global warming before it gets us. We have more proof with global warming and what it’s gonna do than we ever did or will with Iraq. I thought being patriotic means doing selfless things for your country and not thinking for yourself at least some of the time. How about thinking about our country again in a big way and not killing our kids with asthma and other diseases we get with smog. Do this even if you don’t believe in global warming.
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